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General Discussion >> General Board >> Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1454913162 Message started by Baronvonrort on Feb 8th, 2016 at 4:32pm |
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Title: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 8th, 2016 at 4:32pm Quote:
Sounds like the country people don't like the inner city soy latte sipping greenies. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by Gnads on Feb 8th, 2016 at 6:38pm Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 4:32pm:
Sounds like many of the people of Narrabri have sold out & been bought by Santos. You can't eat gas, oil or coal .... they live in a premium agricultural area... they'll be bleating like 300,000 merinos when their water or land is contaminated from the CSG industry. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by The Grappler on Feb 8th, 2016 at 7:07pm
Freedom to protest..... makes no difference if they live there or not.. the issues is the issue, not the locality...
We're not bombing IS in Broken Hill, are we? No wonder they call up there The Deep North..... Redneck Central.... I say let the sink holes devour their homes and their water table be polluted... then they'll cry about Santos. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by Swagman on Feb 9th, 2016 at 11:03am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 7:07pm:
and the...freedom to run a legal business and employ people and boost the local economy |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by The Grappler on Feb 9th, 2016 at 11:53am Swagman wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 11:03am:
Business is still running - if it were not there'd be no protestors... nothing to see here... |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by innocentbystander. on Feb 9th, 2016 at 5:23pm
Narrabri people should burn down centrelink, that will solve the problem.
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by gandalf on Feb 9th, 2016 at 5:50pm
hmmm somehow I doubt Baron's going to whinge about the Islamophobes who are shipped in to Bendigo and speak on behalf of the people of Bendigo.
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by mariacostel on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:22pm Gnads wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 6:38pm:
Except they don't do that. Groundwater is very well protected. It is not as if this all happens without regulation, oversight and the expertise of actual experts. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by mariacostel on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:24pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 7:07pm:
Are you aware that a CSG bore is 6 inches in diameter? Not really a sink hole, is it? And it is capped the entire time. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by The Grappler on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:45pm
Sink holes DEVELOP, often due to incomplete filling underneath - even you could not possibly confuse a bore with a sink hole......
Here begineth the lesson... you getting of wisdom is proceeding, Grasshopper.. http://water.usgs.gov/edu/sinkholes.html http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/is-coal-seam-gas-worth-the-risk/story-e6frg6z6-1226144884827 |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by Redneck on Feb 9th, 2016 at 7:16pm
Perhaps Narrabri people might like to talk to the people of Bulga, NSW about the impact of mining on their community!
Its very similar to this CSG stuff. Poison your water supply is a very likely prospect from this crap |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by The Grappler on Feb 9th, 2016 at 7:49pm Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 7:16pm:
Good link here.... http://theconversation.com/coal-seam-gas-water-leaks-could-be-a-problem-for-decades-24718 "Contamination risk According to the NSW Environment Protection Authority, the groundwater aquifer downstream of the leak contained 20 times the acceptable level of uranium for drinking water. This is concerning given the long timescales and effort involved in groundwater clean-up, and the fact that the region affected is an area of recharge for the Great Artesian Basin. The type of water that resulted in contamination in this case (called “produced” or “co-produced” water) is generated in large quantities by all CSG wells, and it is usually of poor quality, containing potentially harmful levels of salt, radionuclides, metals and other contaminants. It appears that in this case such water was inappropriately stored in a leaky dam, allowing it to infiltrate and migrate into the underlying aquifer. A 2011 study in the Queensland Murray-Darling basin projected that the amounts of additional salt brought to the surface by CSG wastewater were of similar quantity to all combined salts added from conventional groundwater irrigation and natural sources. If all this salt was allowed into waterways, it would effectively double the amount of salt entering the landscape. Managing produced water and the salts and contaminants dissolved in it is therefore major issue for the CSG industry. It can be treated and reused for irrigation or industry, re-injected underground, or released into waterways following treatment. Treating CSG wastewater usually involves reverse osmosis, which produces “clean” water, but also concentrates contaminants in brine, which requires safe disposal. Some contaminants (such as boron) are hard to remove and are retained in the treated product water. In some cases methane can also remain in water after it leaves the treatment plant, adding to concerns over fugitive emissions." |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by The Grappler on Feb 9th, 2016 at 8:37pm
CSG protestors sick of Narrabri....
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by Kat on Feb 10th, 2016 at 2:48am mariacostel wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:22pm:
Typical of most of your ill (or non)-informed right-wing partisan bullsh1t and propaganda. You are either extremely stupid and/or dis-informed, or are deliberately propagating lies. Evidence continues to roll in proving that the reality is the complete opposite of your claim. Ground-waters are being poisoned, and gas is escaping into the air. Animals are carking and people are becoming ill This is not just one isolated occurrence either, there are MANY documented and proven cases around the world, and more are coming to light on an almost daily basis. I have to wonder - like many (no, not all - and the exceptions know who they are) rightists on this forum, do you actually believe the crap you post (in which case you're a fool), are you some kind of paid shill who merely parrots what's in the pre-written script (in which case you' are a greedy, amoral fool), do you simply like to disagree with others for the sake of it (not necessarily foolish, but bloody annoying and ultimately pointless) or are you just a good, old- fashioned, garden-variety troll? Or all of the above? |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by cods on Feb 10th, 2016 at 8:06am Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 7:16pm:
red do you ever smell the chlorine in Canberra tap water...I cant drink the water straight from the tap.. it smells..I can only assume it needs super doses of something to make it drinkable...why do you think that is????>.... ::) ::) if anyone anywhere thinks they are drinking uncontaminated water.......have I got news for you!! |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 10th, 2016 at 9:56am cods wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 8:06am:
The high dose of chlorine in Canberra water is there to combat the toxins released from blue-green algae (so I believe). Install a water filter under your sink. http://www.aquasafe.com.au/residential-and-home/underbench-water-filters.html |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by cods on Feb 10th, 2016 at 11:00am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 9:56am:
the water shouldnt have toxins in it.. >:( >:( >:( and its so strong you can smell and taste it... if its ok for me to buy a water filter.. then its alright for everyone else.. dont you think????. btw Canberra is our CAPITAL CITY>[read town]. and the drinking water is disgusting. will a water filter filter out chlorine??> |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 10th, 2016 at 11:18am cods wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 11:00am:
Correct. Which is exactly why they add a high amount of chlorine. "The high dose of chlorine in Canberra water is there to combat the toxins released from blue-green algae (so I believe)." "Single Stage 0.5 micron Carbon Block Benchtop Water Filter - Removes bad taste, odour and chlorine" Link |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by mariacostel on Feb 10th, 2016 at 3:59pm Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 7:16pm:
Except of course it has never actually happened in Australia. Why is it that every SCIENTIFIC study on CSG concludes that it is safe but every bogan and activist comes to the opposite conclusion? |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by mariacostel on Feb 10th, 2016 at 4:02pm Kat wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 2:48am:
And conveniently, not a single bit of evidence proferred, just the usual hysterical nonsense full of lies and half-truths. Somehow, it seems to escape the notice of most of you that that the EXPERTS dont have a problem with CSG but only the bogans and activists and the ignorant. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by Wolseley on Feb 10th, 2016 at 10:00pm cods wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 11:00am:
Do you live near a water treatment plant by any chance? I find that the smell of the chemicals is stronger if you are. We lived near Prospect Reservoir for over 30 years and the smell of the chlorine in the water was so strong on some days that it smelled like diluted bleach. When we moved house a couple of years ago, we noticed an immediate improvement in the quality of the water. I can't say that I have found Canberra's water to be any worse than Sydney's. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by Gnads on Feb 11th, 2016 at 7:51am mariacostel wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:22pm:
And you're a bloody dreamer. or a shill http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/origin-executives-knew-of-oils-leaks-into-acquifers/news-story/6f5aa2b1a6c150107671ba755ccda9ca http://www.lockthegate.org.au/reports_of_origin_energy_cover_up_of_oil_leak_into_australia_s_most_significant_aquifer_prompts_calls_for_urgent_inquiry http://www.whistleblowingwomen.com/originenergy.htm Further to that .... I'll call you a liar. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by Gnads on Feb 11th, 2016 at 7:53am mariacostel wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 3:59pm:
Yep you're a CSG shill .... and a liar It has happened, it is happening exactly as it is has happened & is happening in the USA |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11th, 2016 at 8:35am Wolseley wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 10:00pm:
"Canberra has the highest rate of chlorine in the drinking water in Australia." http://www.aquasafe.com.au/canberra-water-filters.html |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by mariacostel on Feb 11th, 2016 at 5:43pm Gnads wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 7:51am:
You dont expect me to take Lock the Gate seriously, do you? This is the group that shows all these photos of CSG disasters and conveniently fails to mention that none are from Australia or even recent for that matter. They are filled with massive errors of fact as well as extraordinary bias. And the proof is that despite 20 years of the industry, Groundwater has NOT been contaminated. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by John Smith on Feb 11th, 2016 at 5:46pm Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8th, 2016 at 4:32pm:
since when is concern for the safety of Australia's food supply restricted to those who live in Narrabri? |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by mariacostel on Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:21pm John Smith wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 5:46pm:
The concern is actually the responsibility of the various Environment Departments who actually endorse CSG as safe. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by John Smith on Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:24pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:21pm:
sounds nice, but they are at the mercy of the politicians who rely on these miners for their donations. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by Gnads on Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:40pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 5:43pm:
Non conventional drilling & fracking for CSG hasn't been around 20 years. The Origin oil leaks are Australian ... not all those links are Lock the Gate ..... but they should lock the gate from this manifest greed driven environmental disaster that is CSG. http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/pilliga-contamination-santos-to-be-prosecuted-20130613-2o5rq.html Origin, Santos, Eastern Star, Cougar Energy etc. etc all guilty of numerous contamination spills over the last 4 years. You are a shill and a dill. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by Kat on Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:43pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 4:02pm:
Fog off, trolltard. Do a Google search - it's all there. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by Gnads on Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:45pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:21pm:
You sound just like the govt gas shills in the USA ..... go investigate & find contamination take the evidence back & when those higher up the ladder get a look at it .... all of a sudden toxic drinking water is declared safe ... yet the gas companies are still trucking in buffaloes of drinking water to residents ... that are still there & haven't packed up & moved --- after they have been bought off & signed confidentiality agreements not to talk. & off the record tell people not to drink their well water. People like you couldn't lie straight in bed. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by The Grappler on Feb 11th, 2016 at 7:22pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 9:56am:
I used to make home brew using Sydney water - the stuff they use dead dogs to filter - and I ran it through a bench top filter first. A simple experiment is to place a glass of unfiltered water alongside a glass of filtered water in the sunlight on a window sill - the unfiltered starts to bubble.. the filtered doesn't. You can get filters to remove chlorine or you can distill water..... good use for a still between distilling hooch.... |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by Kat on Feb 11th, 2016 at 7:42pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 7:22pm:
Or you could just let the water stand for a while til the chlorine evaporates out (and it will). This is what aquarists do when setting-up their fish-tanks, cos chlorine will kill the fish if the concentration is too high. Aerating and/or circulating the water speeds the process up (and adds oxygen as a bonus). |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by mariacostel on Feb 12th, 2016 at 8:09am John Smith wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
They are no such thing. But keep up the delusions. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by mariacostel on Feb 12th, 2016 at 8:10am Gnads wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 7:53am:
Then why has no scientific body EVER criticised CSG as unsafe? With the right regulations and enforcement it is completely safe. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by John Smith on Feb 12th, 2016 at 8:11am mariacostel wrote on Feb 12th, 2016 at 8:09am:
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by mariacostel on Feb 12th, 2016 at 8:12am Gnads wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:40pm:
The scientists and other expert disagree with you. BTW these 'spills' you refer to are minor or do you think that all industry operates without mistakes or accidents? |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by mariacostel on Feb 12th, 2016 at 8:14am Gnads wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:45pm:
Now you are just talking conspiracy theories. BTW I know quite a number of people in CSG areas and not a single one confirms these bits of rubbish. IN fact, the CSG criticism largely comes from folks in the cities. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by John Smith on Feb 12th, 2016 at 8:33am mariacostel wrote on Feb 12th, 2016 at 8:14am:
you mean like when tobacco workers denied the fact that smoking causes cancer? :D :D :D :D |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by Leftwinger on Feb 12th, 2016 at 8:39am
Good on them for getting out and protesting , you will make zero difference whining about it from your couch.
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by Gnads on Feb 12th, 2016 at 2:54pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 12th, 2016 at 8:14am:
As I said you couldn't lie straight in bed. The exact same rhetoric as espoused by every CSG shill that has ever opened their mouth/typed on a forum. Quote:
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by mariacostel on Feb 12th, 2016 at 3:56pm Gnads wrote on Feb 12th, 2016 at 2:54pm:
You have more than a closed mind. You appear to not have one at all. You have zero ability to comprehend any fact other than that which you personally accept. No evidence or fact will ever sway you. You are in fact, an idiot. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by John Smith on Feb 12th, 2016 at 4:46pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 12th, 2016 at 3:56pm:
you have the most closed mind of all the posters on here. No matter how much evidence anyone puts up, you continue with your spiel. |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by innocentbystander. on Feb 12th, 2016 at 5:18pm John Smith wrote on Feb 12th, 2016 at 4:46pm:
I believe that AGL may have mistaken your cranium for the Liverpool plains and fracked it dear boy. :D |
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Title: Re: Narrabri is sick of CSG protestors Post by John Smith on Feb 12th, 2016 at 6:13pm innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 12th, 2016 at 5:18pm:
your beliefs are your own and not based on any reality .... the fact that you keep proving it with every post doesn't give much room for debate on the topic. |
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