“It started out innocently enough. I began to think at parties now and then — just to loosen up. Inevitably, though, one thought led to another, and soon I was more than just a social thinker.

I began to think alone — “to relax,” I told myself — but I knew it wasn’t true. Thinking became more and more important to me, and finally I was thinking all the time.

That was when things began to sour at home. One evening I turned off the TV and asked my wife about the meaning of life. She spent that night at her mother’s.

I began to think on the job. I knew that thinking and employment don’t mix, but I couldn’t help myself.

I began to avoid friends at lunchtime so I could read Thoreau, Muir, Confucius and Kafka. I would return to the office dazed and confused, asking, “What is it exactly we are doing here?”

One day the boss called me in. He said, “Listen, I like you, and it hurts me to say this, but your thinking has become a real problem. If you don’t stop thinking on the job, you’ll have to find another job.”

This gave me a lot to think about. I came home early after my conversation with the boss. “Honey,” I confessed, “I’ve been thinking…”

“I know you’ve been thinking,” she said, “and I want a divorce!”

“But honey, surely it’s not that serious.”

“It is serious,” she said, lower lip aquiver. “You think as much as college professors and college professors don’t make any money, so if you keep on thinking, we won’t have any money!”

“That’s a faulty syllogism,” I said impatiently.

She exploded in tears of rage and frustration, but I was in no mood to deal with the emotional drama.

“I’m going to the library,” I snarled as I stomped out the door. I headed for the library, in the mood for some Nietzsche. I roared into the parking lot with NPR on the radio and ran up to the big glass doors. They didn’t open. The library was closed.

To this day, I believe that a Higher Power was looking out for me that night. Leaning on the unfeeling glass, whimpering for Zarathustra, a poster caught my eye, “Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your life?” it asked.

You probably recognize that line. It comes from the standard Thinkers Anonymous poster.

This is why I am what I am today: a recovering thinker. I never miss a TA meeting. At each meeting we watch a non-educational video; last week it was “Porky’s.” Then we share experiences about how we avoided thinking since the last meeting.

I still have my job, and things are a lot better at home. Life just seemed…easier, somehow, as soon as I stopped thinking.

I believe the road to recovery is nearly complete for me.

Today I took the final step… I joined the LNP.


archiearchive.wordpress.com/

I'm sure the last line wasn't the LNP, more likely the GOP.
It was good till you sabotaged the writer's work.

sheep to the abattoir LNPers

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I would definitely include the greens party as a viable alternative to the lnp for non thinkers. Especially ones who openly support terrorism.

So people who can weigh up foreign issues, draw their own conclusions, independently of the faction dictators of the old parties, and then run rings around alevine over it ... no wonder it inflames him so.

NZLabour have a policy of three years free university education ... could you ever imagine Auslabor having a policy like that in the future ... now they are in goose step with the conservatives?

Shameful action ~ labor and the coalition stitching up that 5 yo rape victim, alongside all the others. And labor supporters continue on without a thought.

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 7:14am:

So people who can weigh up foreign issues, draw their own conclusions, independently of the faction dictators of the old parties, and then run rings around alevine over it ... no wonder it inflames him so. NZLabour have a policy of three years free university education ... could you ever imagine Auslabor having a policy like that in the future ... now they are in goose step with the conservatives?

You weigh up foreign issues?  Really?  You turn your eyes to your greens rep, get told what to think, and off you go.  Definitely a non thinker.

What inflames me is your support of children dying in the name of Allah.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 7:16am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:14am: So people who can weigh up foreign issues, draw their own conclusions, independently of the faction dictators of the old parties, and then run rings around alevine over it ... no wonder it inflames him so. NZLabour have a policy of three years free university education ... could you ever imagine Auslabor having a policy like that in the future ... now they are in goose step with the conservatives? You weigh up foreign issues?  Really?  You turn your eyes to your greens rep, get told what to think, and off you go.  Definitely a non thinker. What inflames me is your support of children dying in the name of Allah.

You continually paint your wild claims and my actual opinions as Greens policy. It's you who can't think on your feet ... or on your backside at a computer.
No wonder you're a covert labor supporter. I'll be ashamed too !

:P
____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 7:23am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:16am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:14am: So people who can weigh up foreign issues, draw their own conclusions, independently of the faction dictators of the old parties, and then run rings around alevine over it ... no wonder it inflames him so. NZLabour have a policy of three years free university education ... could you ever imagine Auslabor having a policy like that in the future ... now they are in goose step with the conservatives? You weigh up foreign issues?  Really?  You turn your eyes to your greens rep, get told what to think, and off you go.  Definitely a non thinker. What inflames me is your support of children dying in the name of Allah. You continually paint your wild claims and my actual opinions as Greens policy. It's you who can't think on your feet ... or on your backside at a computer. No wonder you're a covert labor supporter. I'll be ashamed too !

You're opinions on the subject have been out in the open for all to see.  Doing a search of your last few days comments it is blatantly obvious that either you're a mindless drone of the greens party, or you proudly support terrorism.  Either way it's nothing to be happy about and shows you to be an non thinker. 

Tell me something, on which issue do you vehemently disagree with the greens? Just one major issue. That's all that is needed.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 7:31am:

:P ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:23am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:16am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:14am: So people who can weigh up foreign issues, draw their own conclusions, independently of the faction dictators of the old parties, and then run rings around alevine over it ... no wonder it inflames him so. NZLabour have a policy of three years free university education ... could you ever imagine Auslabor having a policy like that in the future ... now they are in goose step with the conservatives? You weigh up foreign issues?  Really?  You turn your eyes to your greens rep, get told what to think, and off you go.  Definitely a non thinker. What inflames me is your support of children dying in the name of Allah. You continually paint your wild claims and my actual opinions as Greens policy. It's you who can't think on your feet ... or on your backside at a computer. No wonder you're a covert labor supporter. I'll be ashamed too ! You're opinions on the subject have been out in the open for all to see.  Doing a search of your last few days comments it is blatantly obvious that either you're a mindless drone of the greens party, or you proudly support terrorism.  Either way it's nothing to be happy about and shows you to be an non thinker.  Tell me something, on which issue do you vehemently disagree with the greens? Just one major issue. That's all that is needed.

Opinionated ... and fact free


Last issue I disagreed on with the Greens here on this board  ... Richard Di Natale's comment about Greens holding ministries in a Labor government ... Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government.

Now when is the last time you have condemned your Labor party.
Have you lampooned Labor over their shafting of the 5 yo alleged raped refugee child?

As far as I have noticed. All you ever do is deflect away from Labor with lies about the Greens. Me think a Greens supporter must of accidentally kicked sand at you, when your where even more childish ?

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 7:42am:

Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government.

With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150....

I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet.

i read all the time.
i read autobiographies, philosophy, spirituality and self help.
i believe that you only learn anything when you push outside your comfort zone and, therefore, most people stop learning very early in life.
they enter a Durrrrrrrr state and end up beaten - down by life.
if you arent making progress, life is pretty much over.
people then numb themselves with sensory input.....
sweet foods, alcohol, drugs, porn etc.
Low level consciousness stuff.

the best way to learn is to run a small business and be interacting with the public.
This will cause you a lot more stress then being an employee.
By conquering this stress, you are consquering your own fears. you can feel yourself growing.
Sometimes you will learn so much in a day,. you are almost sleeping restlessly as you can feel the computer code in your brain being re-written.
you develop a charged vibe.
you simply cant resonate with low vibe food like maccas
you simply cant resonate with low vibe people like whingers and people with limiting beliefs and a cry-baby narrative.

you can feel yourself going into higher consciousness.

i dont believe in god but god or someone will keep giving you more and more problems and curve balls and this is all designed to help you grow.

as you use these problems as stepping stones to propel your growth you become super confident and people get attracted to you.

it is the upward spiral of the correct mental attitude.

the loser attracts loss to his life.
the winner will attract problems but there is nothing good or bad in the "suchness " of life, it is thinking that makes it so.

It will all change for the cry baby when he changes.

Read David Daeda...the way of the superior man  ;)

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 7:42am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:31am: :P ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:23am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:16am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:14am: So people who can weigh up foreign issues, draw their own conclusions, independently of the faction dictators of the old parties, and then run rings around alevine over it ... no wonder it inflames him so. NZLabour have a policy of three years free university education ... could you ever imagine Auslabor having a policy like that in the future ... now they are in goose step with the conservatives? You weigh up foreign issues?  Really?  You turn your eyes to your greens rep, get told what to think, and off you go.  Definitely a non thinker. What inflames me is your support of children dying in the name of Allah. You continually paint your wild claims and my actual opinions as Greens policy. It's you who can't think on your feet ... or on your backside at a computer. No wonder you're a covert labor supporter. I'll be ashamed too ! You're opinions on the subject have been out in the open for all to see.  Doing a search of your last few days comments it is blatantly obvious that either you're a mindless drone of the greens party, or you proudly support terrorism.  Either way it's nothing to be happy about and shows you to be an non thinker.  Tell me something, on which issue do you vehemently disagree with the greens? Just one major issue. That's all that is needed. Opinionated ... and fact free Last issue I disagreed on with the Greens here on this board  ... Richard Di Natale's comment about Greens holding ministries in a Labor government ... Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. Now when is the last time you have condemned your Labor party. Have you lampooned Labor over their shafting of the 5 yo alleged raped refugee child? As far as I have noticed. All you ever do is deflect away from Labor with lies about the Greens. Me think a Greens supporter must of accidentally kicked sand at you, when your where even more childish ?

I asked for one major issue, and you can't come up with one, instead telling me you disagree with how the party should progress politically.  Pathetic. So mindless.

I disagree with labor on:
1. Asylum seeker policy
2. Penalty rates
3. Their maternity leave policy
4. Foreign policies (Middle East conflict for one)
5. Pension eligibility testing - I think all wealth should be included, including the family home
6. Their migration policies especially their stance on skilled migration and limitations.

I disagree with Libs on just about everything except I agree with them on penalty rates.

I disagree with the greens on their
1. Support of terrorism
2. Support of Palestine while Hamas is in the picture
3. ETS denialism and intent to shutdown all industry
4. Asylum seeker policies
5. Uncosted fluffy visions on education and health
6. Utter disregard for borders
7. penalty rates support
8. Political correctness

But I support greens on their pension proposals/ideas and some taxation policies.

see, my social democratic views and opinions don't stem from one party's political charter.  I form opinions based on actual thinking, not based on what di Natalie told me.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 7:54am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet.

I'm not a drug addict. Shouldn't judge others by your own parameters.

And as for number of seats ... that can change rapidly since Greens are the alternative to the corruption of the old parties.

Labor voter - I love it. Brilliant.


Quote:

................“I know you’ve been thinking,” she said, “and I want a divorce!” “But honey, surely it’s not that serious.” “It is serious,” she said, lower lip aquiver. “You think as much as college professors and college professors don’t make any money, so if you keep on thinking, we won’t have any money!” “That’s a faulty syllogism,” I said impatiently. She exploded in tears of rage and frustration, but I was in no mood to deal with the emotional drama. “I’m going to the library,” I snarled as I stomped out the door. I headed for the library, in the mood for some Nietzsche. I roared into the parking lot with NPR on the radio ...............

double post

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 7:54am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet.

Not whilst the greens support terrorists, no.

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 7:56am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:54am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet. I'm not a drug addict. Shouldn't judge others by your own parameters. And as for number of seats ... that can change rapidly since Greens are the alternative to the corruption of the old parties.

Having a glass of champagne to celebrate is intrinsically Australian, but maybe you need to live in the country longer to adapt to that.
I know immigrants don't always get our values at first.

1 seat. Like I said I think that power grab isn't quite on just yet :)

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 7:59am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:54am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet. Not whilst the greens support terrorists, no.

The Greens have - and always will - have a nasty anti Semitic view of the Middle East.
Just look at Senator Rhiannon (she called that commie by Bob Browns own team) and her BDS comments that Brown distanced himself and his party from.

Nastily anti Israel. Always have been.

"Thinking" has many different definitions according to each person, for example lets say you unleashed thousands of filthy muslim vermin to go on the dole, commit crime and sexually molest defenseless women at a German railway station most of the imbecilic left here would "think" that was a fabulous idea. 

They would also "think" that it should be repeated here in Australia, so as you can see there is thinking and then there is thinking  ;)

Labor voter wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 6:04am:

“It started out innocently enough. I began to think at parties now and then — just to loosen up. Inevitably, though, one thought led to another, and soon I was more than just a social thinker. I began to think alone — “to relax,” I told myself — but I knew it wasn’t true. Thinking became more and more important to me, and finally I was thinking all the time. That was when things began to sour at home. One evening I turned off the TV and asked my wife about the meaning of life. She spent that night at her mother’s. I began to think on the job. I knew that thinking and employment don’t mix, but I couldn’t help myself. I began to avoid friends at lunchtime so I could read Thoreau, Muir, Confucius and Kafka. I would return to the office dazed and confused, asking, “What is it exactly we are doing here?” One day the boss called me in. He said, “Listen, I like you, and it hurts me to say this, but your thinking has become a real problem. If you don’t stop thinking on the job, you’ll have to find another job.” This gave me a lot to think about. I came home early after my conversation with the boss. “Honey,” I confessed, “I’ve been thinking…” “I know you’ve been thinking,” she said, “and I want a divorce!” “But honey, surely it’s not that serious.” “It is serious,” she said, lower lip aquiver. “You think as much as college professors and college professors don’t make any money, so if you keep on thinking, we won’t have any money!” “That’s a faulty syllogism,” I said impatiently. She exploded in tears of rage and frustration, but I was in no mood to deal with the emotional drama. “I’m going to the library,” I snarled as I stomped out the door. I headed for the library, in the mood for some Nietzsche. I roared into the parking lot with NPR on the radio and ran up to the big glass doors. They didn’t open. The library was closed. To this day, I believe that a Higher Power was looking out for me that night. Leaning on the unfeeling glass, whimpering for Zarathustra, a poster caught my eye, “Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your life?” it asked. You probably recognize that line. It comes from the standard Thinkers Anonymous poster. This is why I am what I am today: a recovering thinker. I never miss a TA meeting. At each meeting we watch a non-educational video; last week it was “Porky’s.” Then we share experiences about how we avoided thinking since the last meeting. I still have my job, and things are a lot better at home. Life just seemed…easier, somehow, as soon as I stopped thinking. I believe the road to recovery is nearly complete for me. Today I took the final step… I joined the LNP. archiearchive.wordpress.com/

Very good!

I dont find any depth to the greens party narrative.
It is a cry baby narrative .

The greens voters couldnt read nelson Mandella's "long walk to freedom"
They can only read 20 word tweets from SHY.
And these tweets are always emotional, always angry, always from a place of taking and not from a place of contribution.
Similarly labor voters tend to have that union mentality.
they want to get rich "by demand"

There is no sense of contribution.

JFK was right when he said "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

shorten, the greens.....its all very negative and neurotic and emotional.
You cant get anything done when you are swayed by your emotions.

A good leader needs to be "icey"
he needs to be like a concrete pillar sunk deep into the ground.
Unfortunately , for the liberals, they too fall into the emotional paradim and the negative paradim way too often. Abbott was very negative and neurotic

I should also mention, greens_win, in order to be transparent, i disagree with ALL parties when it comes to education,  health and infrastructure policies. 

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 8:25am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:56am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:54am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet. I'm not a drug addict. Shouldn't judge others by your own parameters. And as for number of seats ... that can change rapidly since Greens are the alternative to the corruption of the old parties. Having a glass of champagne to celebrate is intrinsically Australian, but maybe you need to live in the country longer to adapt to that. I know immigrants don't always get our values at first. 1 seat. Like I said I think that power grab isn't quite on just yet :)

Common for drug addicts to live in denial.
Alcohol is a drug, and is a crutch, and addictive.

Maybe a reason the christians are loosing ground to the muslims in each of their quests for world domination.

Before supporting Muslims and their laws.
Please remind yourself that in those countries you would be imprisoned at best and at worst tied up and thrown off a building head first.

Just to bear in mind....

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 8:28am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:59am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:54am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet. Not whilst the greens support terrorists, no. The Greens have - and always will - have a nasty anti Semitic view of the Middle East. Just look at Senator Rhiannon (she called that commie by Bob Browns own team) and her BDS comments that Brown distanced himself and his party from. Nastily anti Israel. Always have been.

Pretending Israel is exclusively jewish, is this because you hate Israeli arabs?
BSD is a non violent protest against Israel, and so isn't anti semitic.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:11am:

Before supporting Muslims and their laws. Please remind yourself that in those countries you would be imprisoned at best and at worst tied up and thrown off a building head first. Just to bear in mind....

Please keep me out of your fictional writing please. Also, far right christians want to kill gays. So don't pretend your mob are any better.

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:12am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 8:28am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:59am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:54am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet. Not whilst the greens support terrorists, no. The Greens have - and always will - have a nasty anti Semitic view of the Middle East. Just look at Senator Rhiannon (she called that commie by Bob Browns own team) and her BDS comments that Brown distanced himself and his party from. Nastily anti Israel. Always have been. Pretending Israel is exclusively jewish, is this because you hate Israeli arabs? BSD is a non violent protest against Israel, and so isn't anti semitic.

Omg please stop talking. Jewish people are semitic, ie arabian.

And the whole point is thst israel ISNT a religious state.  Its open to migration for people from all walks of life.  Unlike a hamas governed palestinian state would be. Which you support.

Please, just stop talking.  Its pitiful now.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:15am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:12am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 8:28am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:59am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:54am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet. Not whilst the greens support terrorists, no. The Greens have - and always will - have a nasty anti Semitic view of the Middle East. Just look at Senator Rhiannon (she called that commie by Bob Browns own team) and her BDS comments that Brown distanced himself and his party from. Nastily anti Israel. Always have been. Pretending Israel is exclusively jewish, is this because you hate Israeli arabs? BSD is a non violent protest against Israel, and so isn't anti semitic. Omg please stop talking. Jewish people are semitic, ie arabian. And the whole point is thst israel ISNT a religious state.  Its open to migration for people from all walks of life.  Unlike a hamas governed palestinian state would be. Which you support. Please, just stop talking.  Its pitiful now.

Opposing Israeli Apartheid has nothing to do with religion.
Please don't try and help Hicks ... you're making greater fools of both of you.

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:13am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:11am: Before supporting Muslims and their laws. Please remind yourself that in those countries you would be imprisoned at best and at worst tied up and thrown off a building head first. Just to bear in mind.... Please keep me out of your fictional writing please. Also, far right christians want to kill gays. So don't pretend your mob are any better.

Yes except they live in states that forbid it.  Unlike a hamas led palestinian state, which undoubtedly would have gays at the very least denounced as an infidel and most likely beheaded.

Please show us enlightenment that has been bestowed on Hamas.

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:18am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:15am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:12am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 8:28am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:59am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:54am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet. Not whilst the greens support terrorists, no. The Greens have - and always will - have a nasty anti Semitic view of the Middle East. Just look at Senator Rhiannon (she called that commie by Bob Browns own team) and her BDS comments that Brown distanced himself and his party from. Nastily anti Israel. Always have been. Pretending Israel is exclusively jewish, is this because you hate Israeli arabs? BSD is a non violent protest against Israel, and so isn't anti semitic. Omg please stop talking. Jewish people are semitic, ie arabian. And the whole point is thst israel ISNT a religious state.  Its open to migration for people from all walks of life.  Unlike a hamas governed palestinian state would be. Which you support. Please, just stop talking.  Its pitiful now. Opposing Israeli Apartheid has nothing to do with religion. Please don't try and help Hicks ... you're making greater fools of both of you.

Says the guy who thinks jewish people arent arabic.

Let me ask you, youre against apartheid only in Israel?   Even though a palestinean can easily work in Israel, but a jewish person would be stoned to death in the gaza strip?  Why do you support hamas apartheid?

The Libs and Labs are past their use-by date

Parliament is just immature behavior pitting one adolescent group against another - a waste of money and compulsory votes

The Sun is going to burn out one day so we'd better get some intelligent adults in Parliament before it's too late

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

The Libs and Labs are past their use-by date Parliament is just immature behavior pitting one adolescent group against another - a waste of money and compulsory votes The Sun is going to burn out one day so we'd better get some intelligent adults in Parliament before it's too late

Id say remove political donations, publicly fund elections, demand manifests on first day of election, and lets see how it goes.  i want parties based on ideology back, not parties based on the interests of those who donated the most.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:21am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:13am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:11am: Before supporting Muslims and their laws. Please remind yourself that in those countries you would be imprisoned at best and at worst tied up and thrown off a building head first. Just to bear in mind.... Please keep me out of your fictional writing please. Also, far right christians want to kill gays. So don't pretend your mob are any better. Yes except they live in states that forbid it.  Unlike a hamas led palestinian state, which undoubtedly would have gays at the very least denounced as an infidel and most likely beheaded. Please show us enlightenment that has been bestowed on Hamas.

Malawi: Msonda's 'Kill Gays' Case Discontinued - SG Says Malawi Not Ready to Change Anti-Gay Laws


http://allafrica.com/stories/201601220753.html

Malawi, majority christian.

Please educate yourself, rather than react in protecting Israeli Apartheid with made up bull.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:11am:

Before supporting Muslims and their laws. Please remind yourself that in those countries you would be imprisoned at best and at worst tied up and thrown off a building head first. Just to bear in mind....

Yes it is kind of fascinating how the gay greens absolutely love the people that want to torture and kill them, I wonder if any psychiatrists have done any research in this field.  :D

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:31am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:11am: Before supporting Muslims and their laws. Please remind yourself that in those countries you would be imprisoned at best and at worst tied up and thrown off a building head first. Just to bear in mind.... Yes it is kind of fascinating how the gay greens absolutely love the people that want to torture and kill them, I wonder if any psychiatrists have done any research in this field.  :D

Amazing how a lot of conservative minded people think gay people are one dimensional and they think sexual drive influence rational thought in all other areas.

Perhaps conservative thinking is a since of an under developed brain. Thoughts?

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:29am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:21am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:13am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:11am: Before supporting Muslims and their laws. Please remind yourself that in those countries you would be imprisoned at best and at worst tied up and thrown off a building head first. Just to bear in mind.... Please keep me out of your fictional writing please. Also, far right christians want to kill gays. So don't pretend your mob are any better. Yes except they live in states that forbid it.  Unlike a hamas led palestinian state, which undoubtedly would have gays at the very least denounced as an infidel and most likely beheaded. Please show us enlightenment that has been bestowed on Hamas. Malawi: Msonda's 'Kill Gays' Case Discontinued - SG Says Malawi Not Ready to Change Anti-Gay Laws http://allafrica.com/stories/201601220753.html Malawi, majority christian. Please educate yourself, rather than react in protecting Israeli Apartheid with made up bull.

The law is they kill gays? Show the statute.

In any event, religion in general is a stupid notion and i dont support any policy based on religious views.  Unlike you who supports terrorism and seem to do what christians do which is just point the finger away from what you support, even tho its clearly contradictory. 

Why do you support terrorism that would guarantee state sanctioned gay killings?

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:12am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 8:28am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:59am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:54am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet. Not whilst the greens support terrorists, no. The Greens have - and always will - have a nasty anti Semitic view of the Middle East. Just look at Senator Rhiannon (she called that commie by Bob Browns own team) and her BDS comments that Brown distanced himself and his party from. Nastily anti Israel. Always have been. Pretending Israel is exclusively jewish, is this because you hate Israeli arabs? BSD is a non violent protest against Israel, and so isn't anti semitic.

Pretending Israel is exclusively Jewish?
Out of you and I, I'd bet a lot of money I'm the only one of us who has been in Israel.

You know the Arabs in the Middle East with the most freedom?
The 1m who live in Israel as citizens.

You think Jewish citizens of the Arab world would be so free?

I got stopped in Tunisia purely because of Israeli stamps in my passport.
Open minded those countries hey?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 8:25am:

Having a glass of champagne to celebrate is intrinsically Australian, but maybe you need to live in the country longer to adapt to that. I know immigrants don't always get our values at first.

Disagree

Having a beer to celebrate is intrinsically Australian, having a glass of champagne to celebrate is more English snobbery

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:41am:

I got stopped in Tunisia purely because of Israeli stamps in my passport

were your feet on or off the trains seat? :D

I recognise that it may look like ive taken this thread off topic, even though its an interesting op.  But i hope ive shown, via greens_wins replies, that not thinking doesnt just apply to the lnp. But it seems to greens members too.  Who think the political direction of the greens party is a major social issue,  and who clearly have a lot of soul searching to do with regard to supporting terrorism.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:41am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:12am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 8:28am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:59am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:54am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet. Not whilst the greens support terrorists, no. The Greens have - and always will - have a nasty anti Semitic view of the Middle East. Just look at Senator Rhiannon (she called that commie by Bob Browns own team) and her BDS comments that Brown distanced himself and his party from. Nastily anti Israel. Always have been. Pretending Israel is exclusively jewish, is this because you hate Israeli arabs? BSD is a non violent protest against Israel, and so isn't anti semitic. Pretending Israel is exclusively Jewish? Out of you and I, I'd bet a lot of money I'm the only one of us who has been in Israel. You know the Arabs in the Middle East with the most freedom? The 1m who live in Israel as citizens. You think Jewish citizens of the Arab world would be so free? I got stopped in Tunisia purely because of Israeli stamps in my passport. Open minded those countries hey?

Deflection.

You claimed Lee Rhiannon was anti semitic due to the BDS. Now, you have proven your opinion wrong.

Congrats ... you scored an own goal.

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:41am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:12am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 8:28am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:59am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:54am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet. Not whilst the greens support terrorists, no. The Greens have - and always will - have a nasty anti Semitic view of the Middle East. Just look at Senator Rhiannon (she called that commie by Bob Browns own team) and her BDS comments that Brown distanced himself and his party from. Nastily anti Israel. Always have been. Pretending Israel is exclusively jewish, is this because you hate Israeli arabs? BSD is a non violent protest against Israel, and so isn't anti semitic. Pretending Israel is exclusively Jewish? Out of you and I, I'd bet a lot of money I'm the only one of us who has been in Israel. You know the Arabs in the Middle East with the most freedom? The 1m who live in Israel as citizens. You think Jewish citizens of the Arab world would be so free? I got stopped in Tunisia purely because of Israeli stamps in my passport. Open minded those countries hey? Deflection. You claimed Lee Rhiannon was anti semitic due to the BDS. Now, you have proven your opinion wrong. Congrats ... you scored an own goal.

She is an anti semite, as are many greens members, who support an organisation that wishes to see the death of all jewish people.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:50am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:45am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:41am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:12am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 8:28am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:59am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:54am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet. Not whilst the greens support terrorists, no. The Greens have - and always will - have a nasty anti Semitic view of the Middle East. Just look at Senator Rhiannon (she called that commie by Bob Browns own team) and her BDS comments that Brown distanced himself and his party from. Nastily anti Israel. Always have been. Pretending Israel is exclusively jewish, is this because you hate Israeli arabs? BSD is a non violent protest against Israel, and so isn't anti semitic. Pretending Israel is exclusively Jewish? Out of you and I, I'd bet a lot of money I'm the only one of us who has been in Israel. You know the Arabs in the Middle East with the most freedom? The 1m who live in Israel as citizens. You think Jewish citizens of the Arab world would be so free? I got stopped in Tunisia purely because of Israeli stamps in my passport. Open minded those countries hey? Deflection. You claimed Lee Rhiannon was anti semitic due to the BDS. Now, you have proven your opinion wrong. Congrats ... you scored an own goal. She is an anti semite, as are many greens members, who support an organisation that wishes to see the death of all jewish people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott,_Divestment_and_Sanctions

http://bdsmovement.net/bdsintro


Can you point out where BDS states your wild claim ?

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:58am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:50am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:45am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:41am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:12am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 8:28am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:59am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:54am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet. Not whilst the greens support terrorists, no. The Greens have - and always will - have a nasty anti Semitic view of the Middle East. Just look at Senator Rhiannon (she called that commie by Bob Browns own team) and her BDS comments that Brown distanced himself and his party from. Nastily anti Israel. Always have been. Pretending Israel is exclusively jewish, is this because you hate Israeli arabs? BSD is a non violent protest against Israel, and so isn't anti semitic. Pretending Israel is exclusively Jewish? Out of you and I, I'd bet a lot of money I'm the only one of us who has been in Israel. You know the Arabs in the Middle East with the most freedom? The 1m who live in Israel as citizens. You think Jewish citizens of the Arab world would be so free? I got stopped in Tunisia purely because of Israeli stamps in my passport. Open minded those countries hey? Deflection. You claimed Lee Rhiannon was anti semitic due to the BDS. Now, you have proven your opinion wrong. Congrats ... you scored an own goal. She is an anti semite, as are many greens members, who support an organisation that wishes to see the death of all jewish people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott,_Divestment_and_Sanctions http://bdsmovement.net/bdsintro Can you point out where BDS states your wild claim ?

She supports a terrorist organisation who's intentions are to destroy all Jewish people.

Thats not anti semitic?

Wheres her boycott of saudi arabia?
Or her boycott of iran?
Oman?
Indonesia?
While we are at it, china?
No,she only wants to boycott israel. And supports a terrorist organization that wishes to destroy israel.
Oh no, she must love jewish people.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 10:00am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:58am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:50am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:45am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:41am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:12am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 8:28am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:59am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:54am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet. Not whilst the greens support terrorists, no. The Greens have - and always will - have a nasty anti Semitic view of the Middle East. Just look at Senator Rhiannon (she called that commie by Bob Browns own team) and her BDS comments that Brown distanced himself and his party from. Nastily anti Israel. Always have been. Pretending Israel is exclusively jewish, is this because you hate Israeli arabs? BSD is a non violent protest against Israel, and so isn't anti semitic. Pretending Israel is exclusively Jewish? Out of you and I, I'd bet a lot of money I'm the only one of us who has been in Israel. You know the Arabs in the Middle East with the most freedom? The 1m who live in Israel as citizens. You think Jewish citizens of the Arab world would be so free? I got stopped in Tunisia purely because of Israeli stamps in my passport. Open minded those countries hey? Deflection. You claimed Lee Rhiannon was anti semitic due to the BDS. Now, you have proven your opinion wrong. Congrats ... you scored an own goal. She is an anti semite, as are many greens members, who support an organisation that wishes to see the death of all jewish people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott,_Divestment_and_Sanctions http://bdsmovement.net/bdsintro Can you point out where BDS states your wild claim ? She supports a terrorist organisation who's intentions are to destroy all Jewish people. Thats not anti semitic? Wheres her boycott of saudi arabia? Or her boycott of iran? Oman? Indonesia? While we are at it, china? No,she only wants to boycott israel. And supports a terrorist organization that wishes to destroy israel. Oh no, she must love jewish people.

Facts please.  Not your usual opinionated propaganda.



Quote:

She is an anti semite, as are many greens members, who support an organisation that wishes to see the death of all jewish people

Where does the BDS state this aim?

Does she support hamas?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 10:38am:

Does she support hamas?

You stated BDS wants all Jews executed ... are you now backflipping on that claim?

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 10:45am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 10:38am: Does she support hamas? You stated BDS wants all Jews executed ... are you now backflipping on that claim?

Reread what i said.

Another example of a greens member not thinking.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 10:48am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 10:45am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 10:38am: Does she support hamas? You stated BDS wants all Jews executed ... are you now backflipping on that claim? Reread what i said. Another example of a greens member not thinking.

You stated the BDS wanted to kill all jewish people.
That is a blatant lie ... and unfortunately your usual behaviour here.

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 10:55am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 10:48am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 10:45am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 10:38am: Does she support hamas? You stated BDS wants all Jews executed ... are you now backflipping on that claim? Reread what i said. Another example of a greens member not thinking. You stated the BDS wanted to kill all jewish people. That is a blatant lie ... and unfortunately your usual behaviour here.

I actually didnt.  Think, as this thread suggests people should, and reread what i said.

Like all greens members, she supports an organisation that wishes to kill all jewish people. 

That is antisemitic

You claimed the BDS wanted all jewish people dead. And Greens supporters who backed the BDS, including a Greens Senator, were anti semitic because of this.

You really should control your blind hatred of progressive thinking people.

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:00am:

You claimed the BDS wanted all jewish people dead. And Greens supporters who backed the BDS, including a Greens Senator, were anti semitic because of this. You really should control your blind hatred of progressive thinking people.

Where did i say that?  Quote it.  I said all greens members support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people.  Not only is that anti semitic,  but it's hardly progressive. And it definitely doesnt come from thinking people.

Tell me, why do you refuse to own your support of hamas when you clearly do? 

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:00am: You claimed the BDS wanted all jewish people dead. And Greens supporters who backed the BDS, including a Greens Senator, were anti semitic because of this. You really should control your blind hatred of progressive thinking people. Where did i say that?  Quote it.  I said all greens members support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people.  Not only is that anti semitic,  but it's hardly progressive. And it definitely doesnt come from thinking people. Tell me, why do you refuse to own your support of hamas when you clearly do?

Quote:

She ( Senator Lee Rhiannon )  is an anti semite, as are many greens members, who support an organisation that wishes to see the death of all jewish people.

Quote:

She supports a terrorist organisation who's intentions are to destroy all Jewish people. Thats not anti semitic

?


Quote:

Does she support hamas?

You owe an apology to Senator Lee Rhiannon, Greens Supporters, and the BDS movement.

Lee Rhiannon is an anti Semite.
That is absolutely categoric.

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:21am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:09am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:00am: You claimed the BDS wanted all jewish people dead. And Greens supporters who backed the BDS, including a Greens Senator, were anti semitic because of this. You really should control your blind hatred of progressive thinking people. Where did i say that?  Quote it.  I said all greens members support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people.  Not only is that anti semitic,  but it's hardly progressive. And it definitely doesnt come from thinking people. Tell me, why do you refuse to own your support of hamas when you clearly do?  Quote: She ( Senator Lee Rhiannon )  is an anti semite, as are many greens members, who support an organisation that wishes to see the death of all jewish people. [quote]She supports a terrorist organisation who's intentions are to destroy all Jewish people. Thats not anti semitic

?


Quote:

Does she support hamas?

You owe an apology to Senator Lee Rhiannon, Greens Supporters, and the BDS movement.

[/quote]

Where did i mention the bds movement as the organisation that wants to destroy all jewish people?

Like i said time and again, you need to think.  And stop your silly support of an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people.  All greens members support hamas.  Its spew worthy how dumb the party ands its members are.

One thing Brown was always right on was moving the Greens from that hate filled policy and rebuking Rhiannon for her Israel views publically on a number of occasions.


GREENS leader Bob Brown has carpeted future Senate colleague Lee Rhiannon for her anti-Israel stance, telling her the policy was a mistake that cost the party votes in the NSW state election.

He has also accused Julia Gillard of insulting Australians by suggesting Greens voters do not have a love of family or their nation.

Senator Brown said the Israel boycott proposal was against his advice and had alienated NSW voters when the party should have been focusing on bread-and-butter issues.

He had conveyed his views to Greens senator-elect Ms Rhiannon in a “robust” phone call this morning.

Senator Brown said the federal Greens in no way endorsed the policy.

“The NSW Greens have taken to having their own shade of foreign policy,” Senator Brown said.

“It was a mistake. I differ from Lee on that, and so do the other components of the NSW Greens, who handled so badly that part of the campaign against my advice.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:27am:

Lee Rhiannon is an anti Semite. That is absolutely categoric.

No doubt in it.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:34am:

One thing Brown was always right on was moving the Greens from that hate filled policy and rebuking Rhiannon for her Israel views publically on a number of occasions. GREENS leader Bob Brown has carpeted future Senate colleague Lee Rhiannon for her anti-Israel stance, telling her the policy was a mistake that cost the party votes in the NSW state election. He has also accused Julia Gillard of insulting Australians by suggesting Greens voters do not have a love of family or their nation. Senator Brown said the Israel boycott proposal was against his advice and had alienated NSW voters when the party should have been focusing on bread-and-butter issues. He had conveyed his views to Greens senator-elect Ms Rhiannon in a “robust” phone call this morning. Senator Brown said the federal Greens in no way endorsed the policy. “The NSW Greens have taken to having their own shade of foreign policy,” Senator Brown said. “It was a mistake. I differ from Lee on that, and so do the other components of the NSW Greens, who handled so badly that part of the campaign against my advice.

Just shows how antisemitic she is.

I would suggest, that "thinking", particularly "thinking things thru Long Term" AND Politicians (the vast majorirty of them, from all Political Party's) & their welded on "Supporters", are often at completely different ends of the spectrum!

Cheers!

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:34am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:21am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:09am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:00am: You claimed the BDS wanted all jewish people dead. And Greens supporters who backed the BDS, including a Greens Senator, were anti semitic because of this. You really should control your blind hatred of progressive thinking people. Where did i say that?  Quote it.  I said all greens members support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people.  Not only is that anti semitic,  but it's hardly progressive. And it definitely doesnt come from thinking people. Tell me, why do you refuse to own your support of hamas when you clearly do?  Quote: She ( Senator Lee Rhiannon )  is an anti semite, as are many greens members, who support an organisation that wishes to see the death of all jewish people. [quote]She supports a terrorist organisation who's intentions are to destroy all Jewish people. Thats not anti semitic ? [quote]Does she support hamas?

You owe an apology to Senator Lee Rhiannon, Greens Supporters, and the BDS movement.

[/quote]

Where did i mention the bds movement as the organisation that wants to destroy all jewish people?

Like i said time and again, you need to think.  And stop your silly support of an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people.  All greens members support hamas.  Its spew worthy how dumb the party ands its members are.[/quote]


By the now highlighted quote being in reply to a BDS discussion.


Just cut the bull and admit your lies are because you are Greensophobic.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:34am: One thing Brown was always right on was moving the Greens from that hate filled policy and rebuking Rhiannon for her Israel views publically on a number of occasions. GREENS leader Bob Brown has carpeted future Senate colleague Lee Rhiannon for her anti-Israel stance, telling her the policy was a mistake that cost the party votes in the NSW state election. He has also accused Julia Gillard of insulting Australians by suggesting Greens voters do not have a love of family or their nation. Senator Brown said the Israel boycott proposal was against his advice and had alienated NSW voters when the party should have been focusing on bread-and-butter issues. He had conveyed his views to Greens senator-elect Ms Rhiannon in a “robust” phone call this morning. Senator Brown said the federal Greens in no way endorsed the policy. “The NSW Greens have taken to having their own shade of foreign policy,” Senator Brown said. “It was a mistake. I differ from Lee on that, and so do the other components of the NSW Greens, who handled so badly that part of the campaign against my advice. Just shows how antisemitic she is.

The BDS is a boycott against Israel, not exclusively Israeli Jews.
So is not anti semitic.

Same as South African Apartheid Boycott wasn't anti christian. 

Desperation is hiding behind anti semitic claims, rather than debate the apartheid system Israel is operating.


p.s

http://antonyloewenstein.com/2011/04/01/the-ugly-little-australian-coalition-against-palestinian-rights-that-will-fail/

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:39am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:34am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:21am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:09am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:00am: You claimed the BDS wanted all jewish people dead. And Greens supporters who backed the BDS, including a Greens Senator, were anti semitic because of this. You really should control your blind hatred of progressive thinking people. Where did i say that?  Quote it.  I said all greens members support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people.  Not only is that anti semitic,  but it's hardly progressive. And it definitely doesnt come from thinking people. Tell me, why do you refuse to own your support of hamas when you clearly do?  Quote: She ( Senator Lee Rhiannon )  is an anti semite, as are many greens members, who support an organisation that wishes to see the death of all jewish people. [quote]She supports a terrorist organisation who's intentions are to destroy all Jewish people. Thats not anti semitic ? [quote]Does she support hamas? You owe an apology to Senator Lee Rhiannon, Greens Supporters, and the BDS movement.

Where did i mention the bds movement as the organisation that wants to destroy all jewish people?

Like i said time and again, you need to think.  And stop your silly support of an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people.  All greens members support hamas.  Its spew worthy how dumb the party ands its members are.[/quote]


By the now highlighted quote being in reply to a BDS discussion.


Just cut the bull and admit your lies are because you are Greensophobic. [/quote]

My lies about what, that the greens support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people? You do support that! Own it.

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:36am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:34am: One thing Brown was always right on was moving the Greens from that hate filled policy and rebuking Rhiannon for her Israel views publically on a number of occasions. GREENS leader Bob Brown has carpeted future Senate colleague Lee Rhiannon for her anti-Israel stance, telling her the policy was a mistake that cost the party votes in the NSW state election. He has also accused Julia Gillard of insulting Australians by suggesting Greens voters do not have a love of family or their nation. Senator Brown said the Israel boycott proposal was against his advice and had alienated NSW voters when the party should have been focusing on bread-and-butter issues. He had conveyed his views to Greens senator-elect Ms Rhiannon in a “robust” phone call this morning. Senator Brown said the federal Greens in no way endorsed the policy. “The NSW Greens have taken to having their own shade of foreign policy,” Senator Brown said. “It was a mistake. I differ from Lee on that, and so do the other components of the NSW Greens, who handled so badly that part of the campaign against my advice. Just shows how antisemitic she is. The BDS is a boycott against Israel, not exclusively Israeli Jews. So is not anti semitic. Same as South African Apartheid Boycott wasn't anti christian.  Desperation is hiding behind anti semitic claims, rather than debate the apartheid system Israel is operating. p.s http://antonyloewenstein.com/2011/04/01/the-ugly-little-australian-coalition-against-palestinian-rights-that-will-fail/

I thought israel is an apartheid state? Non jewish israelis? What??  Is that like non muslim palestinean?  Oh no, hamas would have them all killed. But its ok, you suppirt that one.

And like i said, im not referring to the bds but her support of an organisation that wants to see all jewish people killed.  You need to own what you stand for. Afterall, you dont disagree with any greens policies.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:46am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:34am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:21am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:09am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:00am: You claimed the BDS wanted all jewish people dead. And Greens supporters who backed the BDS, including a Greens Senator, were anti semitic because of this. You really should control your blind hatred of progressive thinking people. Where did i say that?  Quote it.  I said all greens members support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people.  Not only is that anti semitic,  but it's hardly progressive. And it definitely doesnt come from thinking people. Tell me, why do you refuse to own your support of hamas when you clearly do?  Quote: She ( Senator Lee Rhiannon )  is an anti semite, as are many greens members, who support an organisation that wishes to see the death of all jewish people. [quote]She supports a terrorist organisation who's intentions are to destroy all Jewish people. Thats not anti semitic ? [quote]Does she support hamas? You owe an apology to Senator Lee Rhiannon, Greens Supporters, and the BDS movement. Where did i mention the bds movement as the organisation that wants to destroy all jewish people? Like i said time and again, you need to think.  And stop your silly support of an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people.  All greens members support hamas.  Its spew worthy how dumb the party ands its members are.

By the now highlighted quote being in reply to a BDS discussion.


Just cut the bull and admit your lies are because you are Greensophobic. [/quote]

My lies about what, that the greens support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people? You do support that! Own it.


[/quote]


yes that lie.

You claimed Greens Senator supports Hamas ... then wanted me to find out if she does  ... how dumb to you take all the readers of this thread !

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:49am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:46am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:34am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:21am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:09am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:00am: You claimed the BDS wanted all jewish people dead. And Greens supporters who backed the BDS, including a Greens Senator, were anti semitic because of this. You really should control your blind hatred of progressive thinking people. Where did i say that?  Quote it.  I said all greens members support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people.  Not only is that anti semitic,  but it's hardly progressive. And it definitely doesnt come from thinking people. Tell me, why do you refuse to own your support of hamas when you clearly do?  Quote: She ( Senator Lee Rhiannon )  is an anti semite, as are many greens members, who support an organisation that wishes to see the death of all jewish people. [quote]She supports a terrorist organisation who's intentions are to destroy all Jewish people. Thats not anti semitic ? [quote]Does she support hamas? You owe an apology to Senator Lee Rhiannon, Greens Supporters, and the BDS movement. Where did i mention the bds movement as the organisation that wants to destroy all jewish people? Like i said time and again, you need to think.  And stop your silly support of an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people.  All greens members support hamas.  Its spew worthy how dumb the party ands its members are. By the now highlighted quote being in reply to a BDS discussion. Just cut the bull and admit your lies are because you are Greensophobic.

My lies about what, that the greens support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people? You do support that! Own it.


[/quote]


yes that lie.

You claimed Greens Senator supports Hamas ... then wanted me to find out if she does  ... how dumb to you take all the readers of this thread ![/quote]
? She of course supports hamas. Just like you do too.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:48am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:45am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:36am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:34am: One thing Brown was always right on was moving the Greens from that hate filled policy and rebuking Rhiannon for her Israel views publically on a number of occasions. GREENS leader Bob Brown has carpeted future Senate colleague Lee Rhiannon for her anti-Israel stance, telling her the policy was a mistake that cost the party votes in the NSW state election. He has also accused Julia Gillard of insulting Australians by suggesting Greens voters do not have a love of family or their nation. Senator Brown said the Israel boycott proposal was against his advice and had alienated NSW voters when the party should have been focusing on bread-and-butter issues. He had conveyed his views to Greens senator-elect Ms Rhiannon in a “robust” phone call this morning. Senator Brown said the federal Greens in no way endorsed the policy. “The NSW Greens have taken to having their own shade of foreign policy,” Senator Brown said. “It was a mistake. I differ from Lee on that, and so do the other components of the NSW Greens, who handled so badly that part of the campaign against my advice. Just shows how antisemitic she is. The BDS is a boycott against Israel, not exclusively Israeli Jews. So is not anti semitic. Same as South African Apartheid Boycott wasn't anti christian.  Desperation is hiding behind anti semitic claims, rather than debate the apartheid system Israel is operating. p.s http://antonyloewenstein.com/2011/04/01/the-ugly-little-australian-coalition-against-palestinian-rights-that-will-fail/ And like i said, im not referring to the bds but her support of an organisation that wants to see all jewish people killed.  You need to own what you stand for. Afterall, you dont disagree with any greens policies.

Where is your proof the Lee supports Hamas.
You continually claim this as fact ... yet have never stated evidence to back up your propaganda.

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:51am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:48am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:45am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:36am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:34am: One thing Brown was always right on was moving the Greens from that hate filled policy and rebuking Rhiannon for her Israel views publically on a number of occasions. GREENS leader Bob Brown has carpeted future Senate colleague Lee Rhiannon for her anti-Israel stance, telling her the policy was a mistake that cost the party votes in the NSW state election. He has also accused Julia Gillard of insulting Australians by suggesting Greens voters do not have a love of family or their nation. Senator Brown said the Israel boycott proposal was against his advice and had alienated NSW voters when the party should have been focusing on bread-and-butter issues. He had conveyed his views to Greens senator-elect Ms Rhiannon in a “robust” phone call this morning. Senator Brown said the federal Greens in no way endorsed the policy. “The NSW Greens have taken to having their own shade of foreign policy,” Senator Brown said. “It was a mistake. I differ from Lee on that, and so do the other components of the NSW Greens, who handled so badly that part of the campaign against my advice. Just shows how antisemitic she is. The BDS is a boycott against Israel, not exclusively Israeli Jews. So is not anti semitic. Same as South African Apartheid Boycott wasn't anti christian.  Desperation is hiding behind anti semitic claims, rather than debate the apartheid system Israel is operating. p.s http://antonyloewenstein.com/2011/04/01/the-ugly-little-australian-coalition-against-palestinian-rights-that-will-fail/ And like i said, im not referring to the bds but her support of an organisation that wants to see all jewish people killed.  You need to own what you stand for. Afterall, you dont disagree with any greens policies. Where is your proof the Lee supports Hamas. You continually claim this as fact ... yet have never stated evidence to back up your propaganda.

Oh she doesnt? Oh so she mustnt be out there demanding formal recognition of a state controlled by a terrorist organisation?  Oh wait...

Seriously, you need to think some times.

Question: will jewish people be free to migrate to hamas controlled palestine?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:53am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:51am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:48am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:45am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:36am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:34am: One thing Brown was always right on was moving the Greens from that hate filled policy and rebuking Rhiannon for her Israel views publically on a number of occasions. GREENS leader Bob Brown has carpeted future Senate colleague Lee Rhiannon for her anti-Israel stance, telling her the policy was a mistake that cost the party votes in the NSW state election. He has also accused Julia Gillard of insulting Australians by suggesting Greens voters do not have a love of family or their nation. Senator Brown said the Israel boycott proposal was against his advice and had alienated NSW voters when the party should have been focusing on bread-and-butter issues. He had conveyed his views to Greens senator-elect Ms Rhiannon in a “robust” phone call this morning. Senator Brown said the federal Greens in no way endorsed the policy. “The NSW Greens have taken to having their own shade of foreign policy,” Senator Brown said. “It was a mistake. I differ from Lee on that, and so do the other components of the NSW Greens, who handled so badly that part of the campaign against my advice. Just shows how antisemitic she is. The BDS is a boycott against Israel, not exclusively Israeli Jews. So is not anti semitic. Same as South African Apartheid Boycott wasn't anti christian.  Desperation is hiding behind anti semitic claims, rather than debate the apartheid system Israel is operating. p.s http://antonyloewenstein.com/2011/04/01/the-ugly-little-australian-coalition-against-palestinian-rights-that-will-fail/ And like i said, im not referring to the bds but her support of an organisation that wants to see all jewish people killed.  You need to own what you stand for. Afterall, you dont disagree with any greens policies. Where is your proof the Lee supports Hamas. You continually claim this as fact ... yet have never stated evidence to back up your propaganda. Oh she doesnt? Oh so she mustnt be out there demanding formal recognition of a state controlled by a terrorist organisation?  Oh wait... Seriously, you need to think some times.

Anyone who supports a two state solution wants all jews dead ?
That's what you are now twisting your lies towards.

You are likely the worst person to try and defend Israel's Apartheid System.

Israel doesn't have an apartheid system.
It's a democracy where 1m Arab citizens are entitled to vote in the election.

And Lee Rhiannon consistently defended Hamas missile attacks into Israel in 2012 and said Hamas did not use human shields when IDF footage shows they clearly do.

The woman is blinded by a hatred of the state of Israel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oox4S57rkyk


https://youtu.be/0FZAox1x9YU


http://www.stopisraeliapartheid.org.au/

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:58am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:53am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:51am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:48am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:45am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:36am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:34am: One thing Brown was always right on was moving the Greens from that hate filled policy and rebuking Rhiannon for her Israel views publically on a number of occasions. GREENS leader Bob Brown has carpeted future Senate colleague Lee Rhiannon for her anti-Israel stance, telling her the policy was a mistake that cost the party votes in the NSW state election. He has also accused Julia Gillard of insulting Australians by suggesting Greens voters do not have a love of family or their nation. Senator Brown said the Israel boycott proposal was against his advice and had alienated NSW voters when the party should have been focusing on bread-and-butter issues. He had conveyed his views to Greens senator-elect Ms Rhiannon in a “robust” phone call this morning. Senator Brown said the federal Greens in no way endorsed the policy. “The NSW Greens have taken to having their own shade of foreign policy,” Senator Brown said. “It was a mistake. I differ from Lee on that, and so do the other components of the NSW Greens, who handled so badly that part of the campaign against my advice. Just shows how antisemitic she is. The BDS is a boycott against Israel, not exclusively Israeli Jews. So is not anti semitic. Same as South African Apartheid Boycott wasn't anti christian.  Desperation is hiding behind anti semitic claims, rather than debate the apartheid system Israel is operating. p.s http://antonyloewenstein.com/2011/04/01/the-ugly-little-australian-coalition-against-palestinian-rights-that-will-fail/ And like i said, im not referring to the bds but her support of an organisation that wants to see all jewish people killed.  You need to own what you stand for. Afterall, you dont disagree with any greens policies. Where is your proof the Lee supports Hamas. You continually claim this as fact ... yet have never stated evidence to back up your propaganda. Oh she doesnt? Oh so she mustnt be out there demanding formal recognition of a state controlled by a terrorist organisation?  Oh wait... Seriously, you need to think some times. Anyone who supports a two state solution wants all jews dead ? That's what you are now twisting your lies towards. You are likely the worst person to try and defend Israel's Apartheid System.

Any one who wants a 2 state solution that excuses hamas and lets hamas control a state, yes, that means you support them. 

And once again, please be consistent.  Do you support a palestine state where jewish people are executed on sight?

Also, please define apartheid state in your own words, i think you dont know the meaning.  Use examples from israeli laws.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 12:01pm:

Israel doesn't have an apartheid system. It's a democracy where 1m Arab citizens are entitled to vote in the election. And Lee Rhiannon consistently defended Hamas missile attacks into Israel in 2012 and said Hamas did not use human shields when IDF footage shows they clearly do. The woman is blinded by a hatred of the state of Israel.

She is indeed.  And itll be the reason why she boycotts israel, against the wishes of her party, but sits quietly regarding our trades with countries like saudi arabia.  She is antisemitic.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:11am:

Before supporting Muslims and their laws. Please remind yourself that in those countries you would be imprisoned at best and at worst tied up and thrown off a building head first. Just to bear in mind....

I wonder if we could sell tickets to that?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:27am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:24am: The Libs and Labs are past their use-by date Parliament is just immature behavior pitting one adolescent group against another - a waste of money and compulsory votes The Sun is going to burn out one day so we'd better get some intelligent adults in Parliament before it's too late Id say remove political donations, publicly fund elections, demand manifests on first day of election, and lets see how it goes.  i want parties based on ideology back, not parties based on the interests of those who donated the most.

Why would you want that? You dont think you might also want parties with competence, pragmatism and humanity? Ideology is a base-line position. How you put it together in real life is the hard part. For example, it is one thing to say 'we endorse indigenous rights' as an ideology and then try and implement that in the real world. Take for example the last 30 years of government which endorses those rights but has still failed to make a real world impact.

Ideology is easy. After all, it is mere thinking. Implementation in the real world is the hard part and generally, you dont want an ideologue anywhere near you when you try to do just that.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:41am:

____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:12am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 8:28am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:59am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:54am: ____ wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:42am: Greens main aim is a Greens Majority Government. With just a single seat won in the House of Reps out of 150.... I wouldn't go buying the champagne cases just yet. Not whilst the greens support terrorists, no. The Greens have - and always will - have a nasty anti Semitic view of the Middle East. Just look at Senator Rhiannon (she called that commie by Bob Browns own team) and her BDS comments that Brown distanced himself and his party from. Nastily anti Israel. Always have been. Pretending Israel is exclusively jewish, is this because you hate Israeli arabs? BSD is a non violent protest against Israel, and so isn't anti semitic. Pretending Israel is exclusively Jewish? Out of you and I, I'd bet a lot of money I'm the only one of us who has been in Israel. You know the Arabs in the Middle East with the most freedom? The 1m who live in Israel as citizens. You think Jewish citizens of the Arab world would be so free? I got stopped in Tunisia purely because of Israeli stamps in my passport. Open minded those countries hey?

You will be denied entry to Saudi ARabia if your passport shows you have been to Israel. 

Israel is the only democracy in the region and by far, the free-est.

mariacostel wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 5:12pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:27am: Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 9:24am: The Libs and Labs are past their use-by date Parliament is just immature behavior pitting one adolescent group against another - a waste of money and compulsory votes The Sun is going to burn out one day so we'd better get some intelligent adults in Parliament before it's too late Id say remove political donations, publicly fund elections, demand manifests on first day of election, and lets see how it goes.  i want parties based on ideology back, not parties based on the interests of those who donated the most. Why would you want that? You dont think you might also want parties with competence, pragmatism and humanity? Ideology is a base-line position. How you put it together in real life is the hard part. For example, it is one thing to say 'we endorse indigenous rights' as an ideology and then try and implement that in the real world. Take for example the last 30 years of government which endorses those rights but has still failed to make a real world impact. Ideology is easy. After all, it is mere thinking. Implementation in the real world is the hard part and generally, you dont want an ideologue anywhere near you when you try to do just that.

Ideology is not mutually exclusive from competence, pragmatism or humanity.

What do you prefer - a 'competent, pragmatic' government that is based on vested interests or a 'competent, pragmatic' government that is based on ideology? 

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 7:02am:

I'm sure the last line wasn't the LNP, more likely the GOP. It was good till you sabotaged the writer's work.

It's in the original.
What is hilarious is some probable Labor or Greens supporter citing Nietzsche favourably.