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Hijab-wearing athlete on track to make U.S. Olympic history Ibtihaj Muhammad is making history as the first U.S. athlete to compete in the Olympics with a hijab President Obama honors the fencer during a speech he delivers at a Baltimore mosque (CNN)She hasn't earned an Olympic medal just yet, but fencer Ibtihaj Muhammad is already making history. The 30-year-old Maplewood, New Jersey, native will be the first U.S. athlete to compete in the Olympic Games in a hijab, a headscarf worn by some Muslim women to show modesty. It's been quite a few days for Muhammad. Last week, she clenched a spot on the U.S. Olympic team during an event in Athens, Greece. And not to bury the lede, but President Barack Obama gave her a shout-out on Wednesday while delivering a speech at a mosque in Baltimore. Obama asked Muhammad to stand up for a round of applause and gave her some words of encouragement. "Bring home the gold... No pressure," he said. The three-time All-American from Duke University was one of several Muslim community leaders who sat down with Obama for a roundtable discussion about the state of Islam and Islamophobia in the United States before his speech. "It's a struggle to be a Muslim woman right now. For all Muslims in our country," Muhammad told CNN. "We are at an interesting crossroads I think. It could get bad here." She's worried that if the negative rhetoric against Muslims doesn't change there will be more situations such as the Chapel Hill shooting, where three Muslim students were gunned down allegedly by their neighbor in February 2015. Many American Muslims claim it was a hate crime. Muhammad said she is honored to be representing not only her dreams, but the dreams of fellow Americans. She hopes she can be a role model for future athletes, especially Muslim Americans. "There are a lot of African-American athletes, but I can't think of a female Muslim woman I can look to for inspiration as an athlete," she said. Growing up, Muhammad's source of inspiration came from the Williams sisters and their confidence on the tennis courts. Being an athlete wasn't something that Muslim American parents always make a priority, she explained. "In the Muslim community, there is a sense that you are always a doctor or lawyer," she said. The New Jersey resident started her sport when she was 13-years-old when her mother came across high school students were who fully covered, which followed Muhammad's faith. But when Muhammad first started off, she got the sense that fencing was generally a white-dominated sport. "Black people didn't fence, and Muslims didn't either," she said. But she knew in her heart that she wanted to be a part of the U.S. fencing team when she was older. "It wasn't diverse enough. Being an African-American Muslim woman, I can be that change," she said. Muhammad will be the first Muslim woman to represent the United States in the international fencing competitions in the 2016 Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro in August.

Just ditch the hijab you dumb cnt

ian wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 12:29am:

Just ditch the hijab you dumb cnt

Dump the fake macho act!

ian wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 12:29am:

Just ditch the hijab you dumb cnt

Why? And what is the need for such a derogatory put-down?

ian wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 12:29am:

Just ditch the hijab you dumb cnt

My sentiments exactly.

It should be a mandatory requirement of the Olympic games.

The irony is that this pretentious creature who likes to put her piety on display is in fact demonstrating that her love of Mammon trumps that of wishing to live in a Muslim-majority society.

She wears her moral duplicity on her head without realising the profound hypocrisy that it betrays while she is making damned certain she lives with the Infidels while keeping herself tens of thousands of miles away from the nearest Muslim society.

And of course, the luvvies and the 'progressives' are hailing her as the next best thing to an openly homosexual transsexual American Negro ex-con competing in The Games.
   

Ditch the Bitch!

Ring any bells?  ;D ;D ;D

She or her parents are converts

more grandstanding

good summation Herb

Why is a hijab so offensive to you folk?

It's just a scarf. Get over it.

mothra wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 6:10am:

Why is a hijab so offensive to you folk? It's just a scarf. Get over it.

Now come on, Mothra - you know better than that. We've got enough trollers here without you joining their ranks.

Islamic scholars have made it very clear that the wearing of the hijab is not a requirement in Islam, and that it is nothing more than a whimsical affectation more in keeping with moral vanity than religious observance.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 6:25am:

mothra wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 6:10am: Why is a hijab so offensive to you folk? It's just a scarf. Get over it. Now come on, Mothra - you know better than that. We've got enough trollers here without you joining their ranks. Islamic scholars have made it very clear that the wearing of the hijab is not a requirement in Islam, and that it is nothing more than a whimsical affectation more in keeping with moral vanity than religious observance.

So what's it to you then?

pfft...

all been done before...

Kathy Freeman wore a full burka ... streamlined of course..

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 6:28am:

pfft... all been done before... Kathy Freeman wore a full burka ... streamlined of course..

No. She didn't.

Gnads wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 6:05am:

She or her parents are converts more grandstanding good summation Herb

While wearing this hijab that functions as a billboard for promoting Islam to the women of America, this sadly deluded and blissfully ignorant young woman is ignoring the fact that a central tenet of Islam is that women are very much secondary in importance to the menfolk, and are to be viewed more as chattels to their husbands than as wives.

Even as they grow up in their family homes as daughters and sisters, they are subordinate to their brothers.

That's what this silly bitch is advocating and recommending for the Sisterhood every time she dons that symbol of misogyny and female inferiority on her empty head.

Quite pathetic.

Needless to say I would have her and her entire family shipped overseas for being a supporter of a religion-based ideology that is every bit as offensive to the moral senses as was Hitler's Nazi manifesto.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 6:28am:

pfft... all been done before... Kathy Freeman wore a full burka ... streamlined of course..

;D ;D ;D

(As if it would have made any difference).

Stop trolling with gormless one-liners, Mothra. Leave that sort of thing to The Usual Suspects.

We had Nazi 5th columnists, then Soviet 5th columnists.
I wonder do we have Islamic 5th columnists now?
Like that guy on Channel 10 for instance.

Terrible when you have to start looking over your shoulder.

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 6:53am:

We had Nazi 5th columnists, then Soviet 5th columnists. I wonder do we have Islamic 5th columnists now? Like that guy on Channel 10 for instance. Terrible when you have to start looking over your shoulder.

Every mosque in Western societies is a Safe House for those who hope to one day see the ascendancy of Islam triumph over our secular democracies and our Judaeo-Christian heritage.

Across the continent, our Australian Christian Churches are at this very moment offering sanction to any Muslim 'Illegals' who can make it to their doors.

Needless to say, this is tantamount to giving succor to ones political enemies very much as the Vichy French did with the invading Nazis.

Sabre Fencing eh?  I'm sure IS could use her skill set for their snuff videos.

Hey here's a thought. Maybe mothra's one of those 5th columnists.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 6:52am:

Stop trolling with gormless one-liners, Mothra. Leave that sort of thing to The Usual Suspects.

I don't believe i was doing that.

I'm waiting for a a salient argument, It's not been forthcoming.

Can you lift your game Herbie?

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 7:42am:

Hey here's a thought. Maybe mothra's one of those 5th columnists.

Explain.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 6:50am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 6:28am: pfft... all been done before... Kathy Freeman wore a full burka ... streamlined of course.. ;D ;D ;D (As if it would have made any difference).

Kathy was ahead of her times..

covered head to toe with the worlds first streamlined burka ... in National Colours :)

I mean... look at those other floozies flaunting their bodies.. they are just asking for IT..

http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae269/oldpom/45_cathy_freeman_265x364.jpg

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 6:52am:

Stop trolling with gormless one-liners, Mothra. Leave that sort of thing to The Usual Suspects.

AS opposed to the Daily Mail trolling.

ian wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 12:29am:

Just ditch the hijab you dumb cnt

Exactly.

It serves no purpose other than attention-whoring.

http://www.whatisfencing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Fencing-Match.jpg

The compulsory equipment she'd be wearing takes care of any "modesty" issues she may have.

mothra wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 6:10am:

Why is a hijab so offensive to you folk? It's just a scarf. Get over it.

Its an insult to the manhood of conservatives who need all the help they can get to dispel their flaccidity.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 6:25am:

Islamic scholars have made it very clear that the wearing of the hijab is not a requirement in Islam, and that it is nothing more than a whimsical affectation more in keeping with moral vanity than religious observance.

So, why should it be mandatory not to wear one at the Olympics?

You haven't explained yourself, Herbie.

... wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

ian wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 12:29am: Just ditch the hijab you dumb cnt Exactly. It serves no purpose other than attention-whoring. http://www.whatisfencing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Fencing-Match.jpg The compulsory equipment she'd be wearing takes care of any "modesty" issues she may have.

'I think they were referring to when she receiving her medal rather than when she's fighting ...

what do you care what she wears when she's fighting? you can't see it anyway

... wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

It serves no purpose other than attention-whoring.

Someone in sport attention-whoring?

No!       :o

... wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

ian wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 12:29am: Just ditch the hijab you dumb cnt Exactly. It serves no purpose other than attention-whoring. http://www.whatisfencing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Fencing-Match.jpg The compulsory equipment she'd be wearing takes care of any "modesty" issues she may have.

Maybe we could see an outline of her aurat thru that

mothra wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 7:46am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 6:52am: Stop trolling with gormless one-liners, Mothra. Leave that sort of thing to The Usual Suspects. I don't believe i was doing that.

Yes you were, and you know damn well you were.

Alevine
Karnal
John Smith
gregg
Mothra

Freediver's patronage of you trollers is why this forum site has gradually turned into a sh*thouse.

So lacking in self awareness Herby.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 1:12pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:46am: Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 6:52am: Stop trolling with gormless one-liners, Mothra. Leave that sort of thing to The Usual Suspects. I don't believe i was doing that. Yes you were, and you know damn well you were. Alevine Karnal John Smith gregg Mothra Freediver's patronage of you trollers is why this forum site has gradually turned into a sh*thouse.

You're the biggest troll on the internet, Herbie.

Everybody here knows that.

Stop the grandstanding, you silly old fool.

You can't see a fencers face anyway.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 1:12pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 7:46am: Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 6:52am: Stop trolling with gormless one-liners, Mothra. Leave that sort of thing to The Usual Suspects. I don't believe i was doing that. Yes you were, and you know damn well you were. Alevine Karnal John Smith gregg Mothra Freediver's patronage of you trollers is why this forum site has gradually turned into a sh*thouse.

They are not trolls, they are either disingenuous obfuscaters (gweg, karnal, alevine) and idjits (john smith, mothra).  Trolls provoke discussion/argument, whereas these groups shut it down.

idjits can't help it that they were born with low potential intelligence so shouldn't be crucified for it, but the disingenuous obfuscaters have chosen that path, so should be treated accordingly.

... wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 1:26pm:

Trolls provoke discussion/argument, whereas these groups shut it down.

yes, cause you calling people idjits promotes discussion now does it?

If you want to see an idjit buy a mirror

John Smith wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 2:14pm:

... wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 1:26pm: Trolls provoke discussion/argument, whereas these groups shut it down. yes, cause you calling people idjits promotes discussion now does it?

I am not a troll, so "provoking discussion" isn't part of my mission statement. 

Forgiven for drawing erroneous conclusions, as you cannot help it. 

... wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 2:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 2:14pm: ... wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 1:26pm: Trolls provoke discussion/argument, whereas these groups shut it down. yes, cause you calling people idjits promotes discussion now does it? I am not a troll, so "provoking discussion" isn't part of my mission statement.  Forgiven for drawing erroneous conclusions, as you cannot help it.

So are you an idjut  or an disingenuous obfuscaters?

John Smith wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 2:24pm:

... wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 2:19pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 2:14pm: ... wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 1:26pm: Trolls provoke discussion/argument, whereas these groups shut it down. yes, cause you calling people idjits promotes discussion now does it? I am not a troll, so "provoking discussion" isn't part of my mission statement.  Forgiven for drawing erroneous conclusions, as you cannot help it.  So are you an idjut  or an disingenuous obfuscaters?

No, those were the categories that the aforementioned posters fall into.  Nobody said that every poster fell into those categories. 

Forgiven.

I don't care what she wears but why is it the 'born agains' or the 'newly converted' that make the most noise?

If it obstructs her view or performance in any way.  Tough luck.

Black Orchid wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

I don't care what she wears but why is it the 'born agains' or the 'newly converted' that make the most noise? If it obstructs her view or performance in any way.  Tough luck.

I've been playing the devils advocate, and trying to find something wrong with this situation.

Buggered if I can, though.

I put this one in the same category as Same Sex Marriage.

Who cares? Provided it doesn't give her an advantage ..... Here she is.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Ibtihaj_Muhammad_podium_2013_Fencing_WCH_SFS-EQ_t215413.jpg/220px-Ibtihaj_Muhammad_podium_2013_Fencing_WCH_SFS-EQ_t215413.jpg

Neferti wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 3:18pm:

Who cares? Provided it doesn't give her an advantage ..... Here she is. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Ibtihaj_Muhammad_podium_2013_Fencing_WCH_SFS-EQ_t215413.jpg/220px-Ibtihaj_Muhammad_podium_2013_Fencing_WCH_SFS-EQ_t215413.jpg

Yes, I considered that: does it give her an advantage?

I doesn't appear to.

So, what's the problem here?  I just can't see one.

Herbie doesn't have the guts to answer, and neither does anyone else.

Very strange thread.

Is her first opponent going to be a female version of Zorro? :D

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red baron wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 3:29pm:

Is his first opponent going to be Zorro? :D

What does that mean, exactly?

I just thought perhaps it would add to the gimmickry if Mexico sent along 'the fox so cunning and keen' to the Olympics to face off with 'the masked avenger' from the U.S.A.

Now that would make for great coverage!! ::) ::)

What next.   Publicity and applause for someone wearing a g-string under their gear?   ::)

... wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 2:24pm: ... wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 2:19pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 2:14pm: ... wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 1:26pm: Trolls provoke discussion/argument, whereas these groups shut it down. yes, cause you calling people idjits promotes discussion now does it? I am not a troll, so "provoking discussion" isn't part of my mission statement.  Forgiven for drawing erroneous conclusions, as you cannot help it.  So are you an idjut  or an disingenuous obfuscaters? No, those were the categories that the aforementioned posters fall into.  Nobody said that every poster fell into those categories.  Forgiven.

and yet you managed to describe yourself perfectly

John Smith wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 5:24pm:

... wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 2:26pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 2:24pm: ... wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 2:19pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 2:14pm: ... wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 1:26pm: Trolls provoke discussion/argument, whereas these groups shut it down. yes, cause you calling people idjits promotes discussion now does it? I am not a troll, so "provoking discussion" isn't part of my mission statement.  Forgiven for drawing erroneous conclusions, as you cannot help it.  So are you an idjut  or an disingenuous obfuscaters? No, those were the categories that the aforementioned posters fall into.  Nobody said that every poster fell into those categories.  Forgiven. and yet you managed to describe yourself perfectly

If you thought I had described myself perfectly, you wouldn't have asked which category I was in.

I can forgive a lack of intelligence, but I will not forgive your bad attitude.  you need to learn your place. 


http://associatesmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/businessman-sitting-in-corner-with-dunce-hat.jpg

... wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 5:29pm:

If you thought I had described myself perfectly, you wouldn't have asked which category I was in.

that's because you I was trying to work out your 'categories' ... afterall, you shut down discussion, you're a disingenuous obfuscaters and you're an idjut.  What do you call that category?

I just hope she's dressed more modestly than this lass who put her aurat on display for all and sundry to see.

Maybe Fitz can lend her a bandanna to cover her aurat so Muslim men can control themselves.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/the-fitz-files/malaysian-decision-on-farah-ann-abdul-hadi-showed-no-respect-for-women-or-common-sense-20160115-gm6mqa.html

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Neferti wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 3:18pm:

Who cares?

Who cares?

You're another sheep 'going quietly into the night' like the Jews did in Hitler's Germany.

This girl and her hijab is a propaganda coup on the part of Islam, and as a woman yourself you should be condemning any advertising of a religion which relegates women to an inferior position to that of their menfolk.

This is the religion which after 14 hundred years produced the phenomenon we now know as Taharrush Jamai.

Just a casual "Who cares?" from you is a highly irresponsible attitude to take towards Islam and its followers.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 7:39pm:

Neferti wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 3:18pm: Who cares? Who cares? You're another sheep 'going quietly into the night' like the Jews did in Hitler's Germany. This girl and her hijab is a propaganda coup on the part of Islam, and as a woman yourself you should be condemning any advertising of a religion which relegates women to an inferior position to that of their menfolk. This is the religion which after 14 hundred years produced the phenomenon we now know as Taharrush Jamai. Just a casual "Who cares?" from you is a highly irresponsible attitude to take towards Islam and its followers.

You have serious smacking issues, Herbie.

Seriously.

You need to see a doctor.

Even the women are called Muhammed.

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

Even the women are called Muhammed.

Shocking!    :o

mothra wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 6:10am:

Why is a hijab so offensive to you folk? It's just a scarf. Get over it.

If it's JUST a scarf, why do they insist on it?

Where are the Christian and Jewish athletes from 'Muslim' countries?

They are dead or driven out.

All this multiculti BS is always one way.  The West has to learn about Islam and tolerate it but the 'Muslim' lands can go on exterminating Christians and Jews and other non-Muslims and that's seen as as an expression of their rich cultural tradition.


If you are a Muslim in the West and you are not ACTIVELY fighting for equal liberties and acceptance of non-Muslims among your coreligionists in 'Muslim' lands then you are a two-faced, forked tongued opportunistic user who must not be trusted.

What are Muslims in the West DOING about the appalling and bloody intolerance in Muslim lands? Are they putting any pressure on those regimes - or are they simply retreating into fatalistic mouthing of  'insha'Allahs' .

God knows, there are plenty of Muslims in the West. I don't see them exerting any positive, tolerant, democratic influence on the 'Muslim' lands.  Why the hell aren't they doing that??? Instead, they are importing, financing and supporting dogmatic sectarian imams from the intolerant Muslim lands to the West to spread the Muslim intolerance and supremacy message.

Soren wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:04pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 6:10am: Why is a hijab so offensive to you folk? It's just a scarf. Get over it. All this multiculti BS is always one way.  The West has to learn about Islam and tolerate it but the 'Muslim' lands can go on exterminating Christians and Jews and other non-Muslims and that's seen as as an expression of their rich cultural tradition.

Soren must fear getting out of bed every morning or whatever time he stumbles out.

Its evident none of the conservatives on Ozpolitic have lived among Muslims of whom 99.99% are decent people.

Islamophobic conservatives of Ozpolitic are blathering hate from behind a veil of total ignorance.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 12:40am:

Soren wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:04pm: mothra wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 6:10am: Why is a hijab so offensive to you folk? It's just a scarf. Get over it. All this multiculti BS is always one way.  The West has to learn about Islam and tolerate it but the 'Muslim' lands can go on exterminating Christians and Jews and other non-Muslims and that's seen as as an expression of their rich cultural tradition. Soren must fear getting out of bed every morning or whatever time he stumbles out. Its evident none of the conservatives on Ozpolitic have lived among Muslims of whom 99.99% are decent people. Islamophobic conservatives of Ozpolitic are blathering hate from behind a veil of total ignorance.

Calling people Islamaphobes for characterising the multitudes of horrors associated with Islam is like describing people who don't want to be around asbestos as being mesothelioma-a-phobic.

NOTHING good happens when muslims move en mass into your neighbourhood

Black Orchid wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 3:37pm:

What next.   Publicity and applause for someone wearing a g-string under their gear?   ::)

exactly right..

I'm not sure why this was even reported... or why anyone would make a thread about it.. talk about wasted oxygen...  ::)

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

Even the women are called Muhammed.

Is your daughters surname different to yours?

GordyL wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 5:47am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 12:40am: Soren wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:04pm: mothra wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 6:10am: Why is a hijab so offensive to you folk? It's just a scarf. Get over it. All this multiculti BS is always one way.  The West has to learn about Islam and tolerate it but the 'Muslim' lands can go on exterminating Christians and Jews and other non-Muslims and that's seen as as an expression of their rich cultural tradition. Soren must fear getting out of bed every morning or whatever time he stumbles out. Its evident none of the conservatives on Ozpolitic have lived among Muslims of whom 99.99% are decent people. Islamophobic conservatives of Ozpolitic are blathering hate from behind a veil of total ignorance. Calling people Islamaphobes for characterising the multitudes of horrors associated with Islam is like describing people who don't want to be around asbestos as being mesothelioma-a-phobic. NOTHING good happens when muslims move en mass into your neighbourhood

That's what all the Islamophobes say.

And now ladies and gentlemen, a Hijab Barbie for your enjoyment.

The evolution of society continues over the head of hardened conservatives.

https://cdn.rt.com/files/2016.02/original/56b4eebcc46188c40b8b45c7.jpg

https://www.rt.com/news/331450-hijab-barbie-doll-islamophobia/


Quote:

Barbie is generally known for her long, blonde hair, but it’s hard to see her signature style under her newest fashion accessory: a hijab. Haneefah Adam, a 24-year-old from Nigeria, posted images to her Instagram account of her Barbie dressed in hijabs and homemade clothes. She dubbed it the Hijarbie. A photo posted by Mini Hijab Fashion! (@hijarbie) on Dec 31, 2015 at 2:44am PST Adam hopes to create positive awareness and inspire Muslim children. “It’s about having a doll that looks like her, that represents her own cultural and religious background,” she said. The non-trolling part of the internet was full of love for Hijarbie with many complimenting Adam’s fashion-forward designs.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 11:10am:

And now ladies and gentlemen, a Hijab Barbie for your enjoyment.

;D

Don't you just love the hypocrisy in it?

Wears a hijab to demonstrate piety and female humility, but then piles on make-up in every area in order to be sexually attractive to every male who lays eyes on her.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 11:18am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 11:10am: And now ladies and gentlemen, a Hijab Barbie for your enjoyment. ;D Don't you just love the hypocrisy in it? Wears a hijab to demonstrate piety and female humility, but then piles on make-up in every area in order to be sexually attractive to every male who lays eyes on her.

I am sure Mattel will make a boy barbie for you Herbert.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 11:20am:

I am sure Mattel will make a boy barbie for you Herbert.

Bindi Barbie? They've already got them ... I bet Herb has the full collection

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2008/07/06/va1237317755549/Bindi-Irwin-gets-her-own-doll-6131427.jpg

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 11:56am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 11:20am: I am sure Mattel will make a boy barbie for you Herbert. Bindi Barbie? They've already got them ... I bet Herb has the full collection http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2008/07/06/va1237317755549/Bindi-Irwin-gets-her-own-doll-6131427.jpg

;D ;D ;D

admit it Herb, you've got it haven't you?

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 11:10am:

And now ladies and gentlemen, a Hijab Barbie for your enjoyment. The evolution of society continues over the head of hardened conservatives.

;D

Regression is the new progress for the likes of you, with massive chips on your shoulders, still offended by being dragged out of the stone age.

Soren wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 12:03pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 11:10am: And now ladies and gentlemen, a Hijab Barbie for your enjoyment. The evolution of society continues over the head of hardened conservatives. ;D Regression is the new progress for the likes of you, with massive chips on your shoulders, still offended by being dragged out of the stone age.

I am still waiting to be dragged out of the stone age but Australians insist on continually digging gigantic holes in the ground to recover stones.

Mammon is Australia's god.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 1:01pm:

I am still waiting to be dragged out of the stone age but Australians insist on continually digging gigantic holes in the ground to recover stones.

Get a job and pay some taxes ya dopey bum

Soren wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 12:03pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 11:10am: And now ladies and gentlemen, a Hijab Barbie for your enjoyment. The evolution of society continues over the head of hardened conservatives. ;D Regression is the new progress for the likes of you, with massive chips on your shoulders, still offended by being dragged out of the stone age.

Ain't that the truth.

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 1:07pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 1:01pm: I am still waiting to be dragged out of the stone age but Australians insist on continually digging gigantic holes in the ground to recover stones. Get a job and pay some taxes ya dopey bum

I went to my local police recruiting centre but they said they were recruiting psychopaths with an IQ below 50 who would just obey orders and ask how high when told to jump. I was rejected.

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

Even the women are called Muhammed.

Her name is not Muhammed.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 1:38pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 8:49pm: Even the women are called Muhammed. Her name is not Muhammed.

Perhaps you should inform the journalist. That is what the article calls her.

Are women not allowed to be called Muhammed?

FD what you said is almost as stupid as pointing at a girl whose surname is Scott or James and saying she's named after a boy.

Besides, there is no concept of a surname in muslim culture. She is referred to as Muhammed because thats her father's name.

freediver wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 5:09pm:

That is what the article calls her.

The article refers to her as Ibtihaj Muhammad - which is a westernised way of saying what literally means "Ibtihaj daughter of Muhammad".

The journalist then makes the common mistake of referring to her as 'Muhammad' in the same way as we refer to our PM as "Turnbull".

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The journalist then makes the common mistake of referring to her as 'Muhammad' in the same way as we refer to our PM as "Turnbull".

Yes I often make the mistake of calling Muslim women Muhammed. Like Karnal's wife.

Her name is not Muhammed - do you get that bit yet?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 9:00am:

GordyL wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 5:47am: Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 12:40am: Soren wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:04pm: mothra wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 6:10am: Why is a hijab so offensive to you folk? It's just a scarf. Get over it. All this multiculti BS is always one way.  The West has to learn about Islam and tolerate it but the 'Muslim' lands can go on exterminating Christians and Jews and other non-Muslims and that's seen as as an expression of their rich cultural tradition. Soren must fear getting out of bed every morning or whatever time he stumbles out. Its evident none of the conservatives on Ozpolitic have lived among Muslims of whom 99.99% are decent people. Islamophobic conservatives of Ozpolitic are blathering hate from behind a veil of total ignorance. Calling people Islamaphobes for characterising the multitudes of horrors associated with Islam is like describing people who don't want to be around asbestos as being mesothelioma-a-phobic. NOTHING good happens when muslims move en mass into your neighbourhood That's what all the Islamophobes say.

The Islamophobia slander is a denial of critical thought so Islam may be defended from scrutiny

The ‘Islamophobia’ slander is merely the fear that Muslims have of critical thought. They are terrified that critical thought may destroy the foundations of Islamic faith, because Islam is based on hearsay and repetition, rather than on verifiable facts.

Islam cannot survive detailed inquiry, critical analysis or close scrutiny. Islamic faith depends on unquestioning, blind acquiescence to the basic documents of Islam. Islam cannot be rigorously tested, so it must be protected by a wall of silence and death threats against the critics. Muslims know this and are touchy about admitting that Islam is a flimsy house of cards.

Faith in Islam’s teachings falls apart and collapses as soon as the historicity and amoral character of Mohammed are examined. Mohammed’s character is the greatest liability in Islam. The legendary and unhistorical nature of Islam’s early biographies of Mohammed are not supported by outside sources, making the biography of Mohammed a matter of pure speculation, if not total subjectivity.

The ‘Islamophobia’ slur is an ad hominem condemnation demeaning all critics of Islam as being mentally ill, but this is obviously not true, since rational inquiry about Islam is highly intellectual. Thus criticism of Islam is proof of one’s sanity.

Muslims want to live in liberal, Western societies, while having Islam exempted from the scrutiny of critical inquiry…which is the sort of mental process that makes those societies vibrant and desirable to live in. By removing critical thought, Muslims will make those societies as stagnant and backward as all Muslim countries, thereby defeating their reason for moving to the West.

Obama refuses to say ‘Islamic terrorism’ when referring to Islamic terrorism in case it might legitimize Islamic terrorism. Absurd. The legitimacy of Islamic terrorism comes from the foundational texts of Islam, rather than from the US president, the US congress or the US constitution.

Criticism of Islam is basically a call for Muslims to leave their barbaric Death Cult and join the civilized modern world.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 10:49pm:

Her name is not Muhammed - do you get that bit yet?

That's what they called her Gandalf, and you just finished explaining how it is actually her name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1c2OfAzDTI

Its her 'family' name if you like. You bumbled on her crowing about how "women are called" Muhammad. No one named her Muhammad when she was born, and no one except this article "calls" her Muhammad. her parents "named" her Ibtihaj. As i said before, what you said is even stupider than mocking an aussie girl with a surname Bruce or Scott or James for being "called" a boy.

A very well argued case Gordy but you're basically beating your head against a brick wall.

It's mainly the cretinous person spambots like LTYC or the brainwashed liberal progressives, fearful of not being liked on Facebook, who use the islamophobia label rather than most integrated Muslims like gandalf.
And there is little point in arguing with the irrational
The intelligent know what the problem is and it suffices to post the self-evident truth in the news.

That may make the blind eventually see and in the meantime it will annoy the hell out of the others.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

FD what you said is almost as stupid as pointing at a girl whose surname is Scott or James and saying she's named after a boy. Besides, there is no concept of a surname in muslim culture. She is referred to as Muhammed because thats her father's name.

Er.... isn't she an American? There is such a thing as a surname in American culture (can I say 'American culture'?)

How about Ibtihaj Bint Mohammed, then. She is a bint, isn't she? We can agree on that, surely.

Soren wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 9:09pm: FD what you said is almost as stupid as pointing at a girl whose surname is Scott or James and saying she's named after a boy. Besides, there is no concept of a surname in muslim culture. She is referred to as Muhammed because thats her father's name. Er.... isn't she an American? There is such a thing as a surname in American culture (can I say 'American culture'?) How about Ibtihaj Bint Mohammed, then. She is a bint, isn't she? We can agree on that, surely.

Soren poops again.


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bint  (bĭnt) n. Chiefly British & Offensive A woman or girl.

     Bint after female name indicates that she is the "Daugther of"
Salma Bint Hanifa means salma daughter of Hanifa

http://islam.worldofislam.info/index.php/component/content/article?id=90:name-structuring-muslimarab-names

Did you notice LTYC didn't give the link to where he copied and pasted from? Here is why:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bint

bint  (bĭnt)
n. Chiefly British & Offensive
A woman or girl.
[Arabic, daughter; see bn in Semitic roots.]

Thanks LTYC


polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 12:06pm:

Its her 'family' name if you like. You bumbled on her crowing about how "women are called" Muhammad. No one named her Muhammad when she was born, and no one except this article "calls" her Muhammad. her parents "named" her Ibtihaj. As i said before, what you said is even stupider than mocking an aussie girl with a surname Bruce or Scott or James for being "called" a boy.

Yes yes Gandalf, very stupid of me. But you agree with me that she was called Muhammed, don't you?

freediver wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 2:17pm:

Did you notice LTYC didn't give the link to where he copied and pasted from? Here is why: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bint bint  (bĭnt) n. Chiefly British & Offensive A woman or girl. [Arabic, daughter; see bn in Semitic roots.] Thanks LTYC Yes yes Gandalf, very stupid of me. But you agree with me that she was called Muhammed, don't you?

In pom and closet pom slang "bint" is an insult. This exemplifies Soren's and Freediver's Islamophobia and their usual resort to insult.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bint

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Bint English slang for a whore or bitch. Similar to a tart. "Look...you can't proclaim yourself king just because some moistend bint lobbed a scimitar at you." -Monty Python, Holy Grail

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

A very well argued case Gordy but you're basically beating your head against a brick wall. It's mainly the cretinous person spambots like LTYC or the brainwashed liberal progressives, fearful of not being liked on Facebook, who use the islamophobia label rather than most integrated Muslims like gandalf. And there is little point in arguing with the irrational The intelligent know what the problem is and it suffices to post the self-evident truth in the news. That may make the blind eventually see and in the meantime it will annoy the hell out of the others.

Oh well. Hope their IP is logged so when the reckoning comes they will be tried as collaborators. ;)

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

A very well argued case Gordy but you're basically beating your head against a brick wall.

Bricks are no match for Gordy's head.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 3:39pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 12:24pm: A very well argued case Gordy but you're basically beating your head against a brick wall. Bricks are no match for Gordy's head.

Is that the best you got?

GordyL wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 4:00pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 3:39pm: bogarde73 wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 12:24pm: A very well argued case Gordy but you're basically beating your head against a brick wall. Bricks are no match for Gordy's head. Is that the best you got?

Brick walls are no match for Gordy's head. How is Gordy's head with facts and truths?

freediver wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 2:17pm:

But you agree with me that she was called Muhammed, don't you?

You're so right FD - she was "called" Muhammad - incorrectly by the person who wrote the article.

Just as long as you understand how idiotic your original point was - to attempt to ridicule muslims for naming their women Muhammad.

Soren wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

Er.... isn't she an American? There is such a thing as a surname in American culture (can I say 'American culture'?)

Correct - she would presumably adopt Muhammad as her "surname" in such circumstances as a first and last name is required. In which case you would have to agree that mocking her for being "called" Muhammad, is no less ridiculous as mocking a western girl with the surname Bruce or James or Scott for being "called" a boy's name.


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How about Ibtihaj Bint Mohammed, then. She is a bint, isn't she? We can agree on that, surely.

Depends where her Islamic heritage is. The more formal term, as per classical arabic is ابنة ('ibnat'), and many arabic cultures do not use the more colloquial "bint".

She lives in the USA & until the Caliphate takes over I believe it's still a western country ....

as such the semantics of how her Arabic name is applied mean squat ....

in the US you are identified as having a first name & a surname ....

you can change it by deed poll to something symbolic or ridiculous ...

but in the main it's First name... Surname

as such taking into account whose daughter she is,

she is Ibtihaj Muhammad.

Stick you pedantics where they belong.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 5:09pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 2:17pm: But you agree with me that she was called Muhammed, don't you? You're so right FD - she was "called" Muhammad - incorrectly by the person who wrote the article. Just as long as you understand how idiotic your original point was - to attempt to ridicule muslims for naming their women Muhammad.

Is she no longer called Muhammed? Why is this incorrect?