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Message started by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:07pm

Title: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:07pm
World leading statistics including 7% of Australian men victims. 16+% women victims.

this link has an interesting video on the subject

http://www.news.com.au/national/australias-sexual-assault-shame-one-in-six-women-a-victim-putting-australia-way-above-world-average/story-fncynjr2-1226825094300


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Australia’s sexual assault shame: One in six women a victim, putting Australia way above world average

AUSTRALIAN women are being sexually assaulted at twice the rate of women worldwide.
Despite our greater gender equality, we rank third after the war-torn Congo and the southern African nations of Namibia, South Africa and Zimbabwe for rates of sexual assault against women.

One in six Australian women have been the victim of a sexual assault by a non-partner, compared to one in 14 women around the world, a new study shows.

When sexual assaults by partners are included more than one in five — or 2.3 million —

Australian women aged over 15 are victims of rape, according to the NSW Rape Crisis Centre.
A major review of sexual assaults by someone other than a partner published in The Lancet was prompted by recent highly publicised rapes and murders of young women in India.

“Findings indicated that rapes by strangers are more violent and have higher risk of involvement of weapons and injury than those by known perpetrators,” the study found.

The research reviewed more than 7,000 studies on sexual assault from around the world.

It found that “non-partner sexual violence is widespread and in some regions is endemic, reaching more than 15 per cent in four regions”.

However, it said the figures could underestimate the size of the problem in many countries where stigma and blame attach to sexual assault and women fail to report it.

TEEN DRUGGED, RAPED, FORCED TO MARRY
In India and Bangladesh, for example, data reported that just 3.3 per cent of women were victims of sexual assault.

The country with the worst sexual assault record was the war-torn Democratic Republic of Congo where more than one in five women were victims of sexual assault by a non-partner. This was followed by Namibia, South Africa and Zimbabwe where 17.4 per cent of women were raped.

Astoundingly, Australia (which was paired with New Zealand in the research) came third in the worldwide study with 16.4 per cent of women reporting being raped by someone other than a partner.

One reason for the high rate in Australia is that women are more likely to report a rape than those in other countries where women who are raped are stigmatised or unable to report the crime.

In some countries in the study there was just one report estimating the prevalence of sexual assault, in Australia there were 25 reports giving estimates, increasing the chance of a more realistic figure.

NSW Rape Crisis Centre executive officer Karen Willis says more than 70 per cent of these sexual assaults are carried out by family members, friends, work or school colleagues.

A further 29 per cent of rapes are perpetrated by someone the woman meets socially or occur on a date.
Just one per cent of rapes are committed by strangers, she said.

Even though Australia was doing well in terms of working towards equal rights for women, rates of violence towards women had not changed, she said.

More work needed to be done to equalise the status of women and there needed to be cultural change among men so they didn’t abuse the power and control they had, she said.

Kathryn Yount, from Emory University in Atlanta, told the Lancet the prevalence of sexual assault found by the study was “unacceptably high on public health and human rights ground” and should spur changes to the law and systems of accountability.

Percentage of women who have been sexually assaulted by someone other than their partner. (global figure and by country/countries)
Global — 7.2%
Japan — 12.2%
Kazakhstan — 6.4%
Hong Kong — 5.8%
India, Bangladesh — 3.3%
Philippines, East Timor, Maldives, Thailand, Sri Lanka — 5.2%
New Zealand, Australia — 16.4%
Belize — 10.3%
Czech Republic, Poland, Serbia and Montenegro, Kosovo — 10.7%
Lithuania, Ukraine, Azerbaijan — 6.9%
Switzerland, Spain, Isle of Man, Sweden, UK, Denmark, Finland, Germany — 11.5%
Peru — 15.3%
Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Jamaica — 11.8%
Uruguay, Argentina — 5.8%
Brazil — 7.6%
Turkey — 4.5%
USA, Canada — 13.0%
Samoa, Kiribati — 14.8%
Democratic Republic of the Congo — 21.0%
Uganda, Ethiopia, Mozambique, Tanzania, Kenya, Malawi, Zambia — 11.4%
Namibia, South Africa, Zimbabwe — 17.4%
Liberia, Sierra Leone, Burkina Faso, Ghana — 9.1%
Source: The Lancet

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by red baron on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:13pm
And you honestly believe that do you Laugh...that women in places like Africa, India and all these other dangerous places that you have nominated....

That women in those Countries are safer from rape than they are in Australia.

If you believe those statistics you are a bigger bonehead than I had you figured for.....seriously, safer in India and Africa than Oz...I don't think so Laugh ::)

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:15pm

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:13pm:
And you honestly believe that do you Laugh...that women in places like Africa, India and all these other dangerous places that you have nominated....

That women in those Countries are safer from rape than they are in Australia.

If you believe those statistics you are a bigger bonehead than I had you figured for.....seriously, safer in India and Africa than Oz...I don't think so Laugh ::)


I wouldn't walk past Red Baron's house on a dark night.

Reported by respected journal Lancet. I challenge Red Baron to disprove Lancet's claims with evidence.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by red baron on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:31pm
They seek him here, they seek him there, they seek him everywhere - oh damned elusive willy wanker Laugh with his droll and mindless comments on the world at large.

Laugh is another one here without a single solitary thought that is original, he feeds off other more intelligent posters on this site and white ants just about everything around.

Anyone seen a pest exterminator..perhaps we should bring in Arnie ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:37pm

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:31pm:
They seek him here, they seek him there, they seek him everywhere - oh damned elusive willy person Laugh with his droll and mindless comments on the world at large.

Laugh is another one here without a single solitary thought that is original, he feeds off other more intelligent posters on this site and white ants just about everything around.

Anyone seen a pest exterminator..perhaps we should bring in Arnie ;D ;D ;D ;D


Is that Red Baron's rebuttal of Lancet's claims? Just Red Baron's usual nonsensical blather.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Honky on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:48pm
Yes, first australians talent for sexual assault is eclipsed only by their talent for thievery.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Ajax on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:53pm

... wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:48pm:
Yes, first australians talent for sexual assault is eclipsed only by their talent for thievery.


I would have said genocide, killing Aborigines like bunny rabbits.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by aquascoot on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:41pm
that would be due to reporting bias.
pretty hard to report to a police station in northern nigeria.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mitasol on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:44pm
What an absolute load of crap. Try visiting a few villages in the Highlands of PNG when tribal fights are happening, rape is the norm and a demonstration of power.

I wonder what the stats are in ISIS held territory?

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by aquascoot on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:48pm
i think the other dishonest part of this is that even a touch on the bum can be reported in australia as a sexual assault, whilst in italy , its probably a compliment.

just comparing apples to oranges.

we would have to be one of the safest societies there is

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Aussie on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:51pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:48pm:
i think the other dishonest part of this is that even a touch on the bum can be reported in australia as a sexual assault, whilst in italy , its probably a compliment.

just comparing apples to oranges.

we would have to be one of the safest societies there is


Tell that to Lancet.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:56pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:48pm:
i think the other dishonest part of this is that even a touch on the bum can be reported in australia as a sexual assault, whilst in italy , its probably a compliment.

just comparing apples to oranges.



No. It's not. That is sexual harassment. Why do you guys insist on getting that wrong?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:59pm
For the purposes of data collection:


Sexual Assault is an act of a sexual nature carried out against a person's will through the use of physical force, intimidation or coercion, and includes any attempts to do this. This includes rape, attempted rape, aggravated sexual assault (assault with a weapon), indecent assault, penetration by objects, forced sexual activity that did not end in penetration and attempts to force a person into sexual activity. Incidents so defined would be an offence under State and Territory criminal law. Sexual assault excludes unwanted sexual touching - for the purposes of this survey, this is defined as Sexual Harassment.


http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/4906.0Chapter5002012

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Honky on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:13pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:15pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:13pm:
And you honestly believe that do you Laugh...that women in places like Africa, India and all these other dangerous places that you have nominated....

That women in those Countries are safer from rape than they are in Australia.

If you believe those statistics you are a bigger bonehead than I had you figured for.....seriously, safer in India and Africa than Oz...I don't think so Laugh ::)


I wouldn't walk past Red Baron's house on a dark night.

Reported by respected journal Lancet. I challenge Red Baron to disprove Lancet's claims with evidence.


The lancet you say?  Lets see what their editor in chief has to say:


Quote:
The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness. As one participant put it, “poor methods get results”. The Academy of Medical Sciences, Medical Research Council, and Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council have now put their reputational weight behind an investigation into these questionable research practices. The apparent endemicity of bad research behaviour is alarming. In their
quest for telling a compelling story, scientists too often sculpt data to fit their preferred theory of the world. Or they retrofit hypotheses to fit their data. Journal editors deserve their fair share of criticism too. We aid and abet the worst behaviours. Our acquiescence to the impact factor fuels an unhealthy competition to win a place in a select few journals. Our love of “significance” pollutes the literature with many a statistical fairy-tale. We reject important confirmations. Journals are not the only miscreants.
Universities are in a perpetual struggle for money and talent, endpoints that foster reductive metrics, such as high-impact publication. National assessment procedures, such as the Research Excellence Framework, incentivise bad practices.


http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736%2815%2960696-1.pdf

Dodgy "studies" like this do serve a purpose though - they identify the ideologues amongst the rational people.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:23pm

... wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:13pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:15pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:13pm:
And you honestly believe that do you Laugh...that women in places like Africa, India and all these other dangerous places that you have nominated....

That women in those Countries are safer from rape than they are in Australia.

If you believe those statistics you are a bigger bonehead than I had you figured for.....seriously, safer in India and Africa than Oz...I don't think so Laugh ::)


I wouldn't walk past Red Baron's house on a dark night.

Reported by respected journal Lancet. I challenge Red Baron to disprove Lancet's claims with evidence.


The lancet you say?  Lets see what their editor in chief has to say:


Quote:
The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness. As one participant put it, “poor methods get results”. The Academy of Medical Sciences, Medical Research Council, and Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council have now put their reputational weight behind an investigation into these questionable research practices. The apparent endemicity of bad research behaviour is alarming. In their
quest for telling a compelling story, scientists too often sculpt data to fit their preferred theory of the world. Or they retrofit hypotheses to fit their data. Journal editors deserve their fair share of criticism too. We aid and abet the worst behaviours. Our acquiescence to the impact factor fuels an unhealthy competition to win a place in a select few journals. Our love of “significance” pollutes the literature with many a statistical fairy-tale. We reject important confirmations. Journals are not the only miscreants.
Universities are in a perpetual struggle for money and talent, endpoints that foster reductive metrics, such as high-impact publication. National assessment procedures, such as the Research Excellence Framework, incentivise bad practices.


http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736%2815%2960696-1.pdf

Dodgy "studies" like this do serve a purpose though - they identify the ideologues amongst the rational people.


That's not a rebuttal. Its a scatter shot that failed to hit target. Prove the Lancet article wrong instead of just publishing inane blather.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Honky on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:25pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:23pm:

... wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:13pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:15pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:13pm:
And you honestly believe that do you Laugh...that women in places like Africa, India and all these other dangerous places that you have nominated....

That women in those Countries are safer from rape than they are in Australia.

If you believe those statistics you are a bigger bonehead than I had you figured for.....seriously, safer in India and Africa than Oz...I don't think so Laugh ::)


I wouldn't walk past Red Baron's house on a dark night.

Reported by respected journal Lancet. I challenge Red Baron to disprove Lancet's claims with evidence.


The lancet you say?  Lets see what their editor in chief has to say:


Quote:
The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness. As one participant put it, “poor methods get results”. The Academy of Medical Sciences, Medical Research Council, and Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council have now put their reputational weight behind an investigation into these questionable research practices. The apparent endemicity of bad research behaviour is alarming. In their
quest for telling a compelling story, scientists too often sculpt data to fit their preferred theory of the world. Or they retrofit hypotheses to fit their data. Journal editors deserve their fair share of criticism too. We aid and abet the worst behaviours. Our acquiescence to the impact factor fuels an unhealthy competition to win a place in a select few journals. Our love of “significance” pollutes the literature with many a statistical fairy-tale. We reject important confirmations. Journals are not the only miscreants.
Universities are in a perpetual struggle for money and talent, endpoints that foster reductive metrics, such as high-impact publication. National assessment procedures, such as the Research Excellence Framework, incentivise bad practices.


http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736%2815%2960696-1.pdf

Dodgy "studies" like this do serve a purpose though - they identify the ideologues amongst the rational people.


That's not a rebuttal. Its a scatter shot that failed to hit target. Prove the Lancet article wrong instead of just publishing inane blather.



Post the lancet article then.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by innocentbystander. on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:29pm
Laugh till you sh!t your pants was gang raped by British soccer hooligans.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:37pm

... wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:25pm:
Post the lancet article then.





Worldwide prevalence of non-partner sexual violence: a systematic review

Prof Naeemah Abrahams, PhDcorrespondenceemail, Karen Devries, PhD, Prof Charlotte Watts, PhD, Christina Pallitto, PhD, Prof Max Petzold, PhD, Simukai Shamu, PhD, Claudia García-Moreno, MD
Published Online: 11 February 2014
Article has an altmetric score of 308
DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(13)62243-6 |

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Supplementary Material

Summary
Background
Several highly publicised rapes and murders of young women in India and South Africa have focused international attention on sexual violence. These cases are extremes of the wider phenomenon of sexual violence against women, but the true extent is poorly quantified. We did a systematic review to estimate prevalence.

Methods
We searched for articles published from Jan 1, 1998, to Dec 31, 2011, and manually search reference lists and contacted experts to identify population-based data on the prevalence of women's reported experiences of sexual violence from age 15 years onwards, by anyone except intimate partners. We used random effects meta-regression to calculate adjusted and unadjusted prevalence for regions, which we weighted by population size to calculate the worldwide estimate.

Findings
We identified 7231 studies from which we obtained 412 estimates covering 56 countries. In 2010 7·2% (95% CI 5·2–9·1) of women worldwide had ever experienced non-partner sexual violence. The highest estimates were in sub-Saharan Africa, central (21%, 95% CI 4·5–37·5) and sub-Saharan Africa, southern (17·4%, 11·4–23·3). The lowest prevalence was for Asia, south (3·3%, 0–8·3). Limited data were available from sub-Saharan Africa, central, North Africa/Middle East, Europe, eastern, and Asia Pacific, high income.

Interpretation
Sexual violence against women is common worldwide, with endemic levels seen in some areas, although large variations between settings need to be interpreted with caution because of differences in data availability and levels of disclosure. Nevertheless, our findings indicate a pressing health and human rights concern.

Funding
South African Medical Research Council, Sigrid Rausing Trust, WHO.


Introduction
Reports of rapes and murders of young women in India and South Africa have focused international attention on the horror of sexual violence. Although it is tempting to view these events as isolated, they should be seen as part of a larger, daily reality of sexual violence against women.

The terms rape, sexual violence, and sexual abuse encompass many forms of violence, including sexual harassment and sexual trafficking.1 An important issue in sexual violence is the relationship between the victim and perpetrator. Historically and in the popular media, sexual assault has commonly been viewed as an act between strangers and, therefore, a crime, as supported by sexual-assault laws.2 Research into intimate-partner violence in the past decade, however, has shown that a substantial proportion of sexual violence occurs within marriage and other intimate partnerships.3, 4 Sexual violence perpetrated by people, such as strangers, acquaintances, friends, colleagues, peers, teachers, neighbours, and family members is referred to as non-partner sexual violence. Irrespective of whether sexual violence is perpetrated by partners or non-partners, it is generally traumatic for the victim, although the pattern, degree, and effect of violence might differ dependent on the perpetrator.5, 6, 7, 8 Intimate-partner sexual violence frequently occurs over long periods of time and is accompanied by controlling behaviour, whereas such a pattern might not be present in non-partner sexual violence.4
Despite the focus on violence within intimate partnerships,3, 9 research on non-partner sexual violence has increased less,1, 4 and the development of common definitions and measuring tools have not received the same attention. Where comparisons have been done, non-partner sexual violence has shown similarities with intimate-partner violence in terms of risk factors and the broad range of effects on health.5, 6 Nevertheless, there are also some important differences, including in prevalence, as reported in the WHO Multi-country Study on Women's Health and Domestic Violence against Women (WHO-MCS)9 and studies of population-based rape in South Africa and Asia.10, 11 Findings indicated that rapes by strangers are more violent and have higher risk of involvement of weapons and injury than those by known perpetrators, but with the latter the betrayal of trust might greatly affect post-assault outcomes, including psychological functioning.5, 6, 12

A fundamental first step in the development of effective responses to non-partner sexual violence is improved understanding of prevalence in the general populations of different countries and regions. We did a systematic review of data on the prevalence of non-partner sexual violence worldwide in women aged 15 years and older. This study was done as part of the work for the Global Burden of Disease 2010 study13 to contribute to the quantification of the burden of disease and injury attributed to interpersonal violence.



Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:37pm
Methods
Literature search
We did a review of population-based prevalence estimates of non-partner sexual violence worldwide that involved peer-reviewed and grey literature. We searched for articles published from Jan 1, 1998, to Dec 31, 2011. We also manually searched for citations in reference lists of retrieved articles and made contact with experts. We included studies published in languages other than English, and obtained full-text translation as required. The databases and search terms used are presented in the appendix (pp 1–2)). Additionally, we requested disaggregated data for age and sex on non-partner sexual violence from the authors of the International Violence against Women Survey ([IVAWS] eight countries);14 WHO-MCS (ten countries);9 Demographic and Health Surveys (eight countries);15 Gender Alcohol and Culture International Study ([GENACIS] 16 countries);16 Centres for Disease Control Reproductive Health Surveys (two countries);17 and Crime Victimization Surveys across the globe (none included).18
We included representative population-based studies that gave estimates of non-partner sexual violence. We considered including non-population-based studies in regions where data were limited, but found none. Data on women aged 15 years and older were included for lifetime and current (within the past year) exposure to non-partner sexual violence. We recognise that sexual violence against women aged 15–18 years is also considered child sexual abuse, but this lower age range is frequently used in estimates of intimate-partner violence and, therefore, we matched it for this analysis.

Because we were interested in sexual violence perpetrated by anyone other than intimate partners, we excluded studies where the analysis combined intimate-partner and non-partner perpetrators. We accepted any author definition of sexual violence (ie, rape and any other form of sexual violence) but excluded studies that combined sexual and non-sexual violence in the analysis (eg, combined sexual and physical). We took into account the type of questions used to ask women about their experiences of non-partner sexual violence, for instance whether the questions were broad or used narrow definitions. We also looked at whether prevalence estimates were based on assessments of individual perpetrators or all perpetrators combined, and included the estimate for combined perpetrators if available to ensure consistency. We checked estimates repeated from the same study or author and included the most relevant paper or estimates.

Two authors (NA and SS) screened the abstracts and extracted the required prevalence and uncertainty estimates for our meta-analysis into a database (EpiData). Additionally, we extracted numerator, denominator and design effect data for studies with clustered sampling, if reported. We extracted the following information on methodological variables that could assist in the identification of potential biases and assessment of the quality of the studies: whether perpetrators were analysed as individual or combined perpetrators, how sexual violence was defined, the exposure period (ie, ever or past year), whether the findings were from a study dedicated to violence against women, study sites (national, regional, urban, rural), whether the study was part of a larger dataset, whether the questionnaire was derived from that used in WHO-MCS, and whether fieldworkers received special training in how to ask about violence sensitively and how to respond appropriately if respondents became distressed.

Statistical analysis
We used random-effects meta-regression to produce adjusted and unadjusted prevalence models and summary prevalence estimates for the regions used in the Global Burden of Disease 2010 study.13 We did not calculate estimates by age group because of the lack of data. We used Stata (version 12.1) with residual maximum likelihood and variance of estimated coefficient modifications.19, 20 In some studies no prevalence was reported, such as age categories for women in the IVAWS14 and the GENCACIS16 datasets, and some individual studies gave no SDs or CIs. In these cases we used the Wilson method to estimate the upper 95% CI value because it provides coverage probability closer to the nominal value for extreme probabilities of an event.21 The SD of the prevalence was calculated as the value of the upper CI divided by 1·96.

The covariates selected for inclusion in the models were based on our knowledge. Covariates were checked for correlation to avoid multicollinearity before model fitting. The covariate-adjusted model included whether fieldworkers were trained (known to increase disclosure), whether the study was a national study, and whether the estimate was based on individual or combined perpetrators. To obtain a global estimate, we weighted estimates by regional population sizes of women aged 15–49 years for the year 2010.19
Role of the funding source
The sponsors of the study had no role in study design, data collection, data analysis, data interpretation, or writing of the report. The corresponding author had full access to all the data in the study and had final responsibility for the decision to submit for publication.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:38pm
Results
We identified 7231 abstracts or records for screening. The main reasons for exclusion were incorrect study design (non-population-based studies), focus on intimate-partner violence, and analysis of combined perpetrators or types of violence (figure 1). We identified 44 potential records in the additional search that were not included because none was a journal article, and seemed instead to be commentaries, letters, or web-based information that was no longer available. 145 records or abstracts were identified as suitable for full-text screening. After assessment, 77 studies covering 56 countries were included and provided 412 estimates of violence (table 1). Estimates from the three largest datasets (IVAWS, GENACIS, and WHO-MCS) constituted 87% of data and provided age-specific estimates for perpetration by any non-partner. Only 17 studies provided estimates for separate perpetrators.

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Figure 1
Flowchart of review of prevalence studies on non-partner sexual violence

IPV=intimate-partner violence. NPSV=non-partner sexual violence. *Perpetrators were not identified in most Demographic and Health Surveys, European Crime and Safety Surveys, and Crime Victimization Surveys.

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Table 1
Regions and characteristics of the 412 prevalence estimates of non-partner sexual violence

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NPSV=non-partner sexual violence. GBV=gender-based violence.

Data were available for all Global Burden of Disease 2010 study regions (appendix pp 3–4). Four (Asia Pacific, high income, North Africa/Middle-East, Europe, eastern, and sub-Saharan Africa, central) had fewer than six estimates each and eight regions, including sub-Saharan Africa, central, had estimates from only one country each. The regions with the largest proportions of estimates were Europe, western (58 estimates) and sub-Saharan Africa, east (43 estimates). Six countries with conflicts at the time of study contributed population estimates (Liberia, Timor-Leste, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Kosovo, Philippines, and Sri Lanka).

More than half of the estimates (59·7%) were derived from dedicated studies of violence against women, and a similar proportion was from nationally representative samples (53·8%). Most estimates were based on lifetime non-partner sexual violence (81·8%) and combined perpetrators (93·7%), and used one question to capture data on any forced sexual act (91·5%). Unlike the measurement of intimate-partner violence, most studies used one broad question to ask women about their experiences of non-partner sexual violence, for instance “Were you ever forced to have sex or to perform a sexual act when you did not want to with someone other than your partner”. Narrower definitions were used by only a few individual studies that measured rates of specific acts, such as “…ever touched sexually against your wishes”.22
Worldwide, 7·2% (95% CI 5·2–9·1) of women aged 15 years or older reported non-partner sexual violence during their lifetimes (table 2). Substantial variation in prevalence was seen across regions, ranging from 3·3% (95% CI 0–8·3) in Asia, south, to 21·0% (4·5–37·5) in sub-Saharan Africa, central. Regions with high prevalence were sub-Saharan Africa, central, sub-Saharan Africa, southern, and Australasia. The wide CI in the sub-Saharan Africa, central region is probably caused by it being based on a single estimate. Regions with lower estimates were Asia south, Asia southeast and north Africa/Middle East.

Table 2
Unadjusted and adjusted prevalence estimates for non-partner sexual violence, by region**
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*Adjustment made for national-level studies, combined perpetrators, and training of fieldworkers.
The estimate for the Asia Pacific, high income region was notably higher than those for the other four Asian regions, whereas Europe, eastern had a much lower prevalence than the other two European regions. Similarly, among the Latin American regions and sub-Saharan Africa regions, one in each group of regions (Latin America, south and sub-Saharan Africa, western) had much lower prevalence than the others.

The unadjusted estimates produced similar results and all CIs overlapped with the adjusted estimates (figure 2).

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Figure 2
Forest plot of adjusted and unadjusted estimates of non-partner sexual violence, by region*

Regions are those used in the Global Burden of Disease 2010 study.13 Weights are from random effects analysis. *Adjusted for national study, combination of perpetrators and training of fieldworkers.


Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:39pm
Discussion
We estimated that worldwide in 2010, 7·2% of women older than 15 years had reported ever having experienced non-partner sexual violence. Thus, non-partner sexual violence is widespread and in some regions is endemic, reaching more than 15% in four regions. Generally, prevalence was highest in regions with the most datapoints. The regional variations were wide. Thus, although they might reflect true variations, differences could be linked to levels of disclosure. Sexual violence is highly stigmatised in most settings. The fear of being blamed and a perceived lack of support from families, friends, and services23 leads to under-reporting24 and affects help-seeking behaviour. We controlled for fieldworker training in our analysis because it yields higher levels of disclosure14, 25 and, therefore, was deemed a proxy for increased quality of studies. Despite this approach, though, our calculated values are most likely underestimates.

The study had several limitations. It was largely constrained by the limited availability of good-quality population-based data. Eight regions had data from only one country, and many countries had no population-based data at all. These features are reflected in wide uncertainty bounds. The highest prevalence was seen in the sub-Saharan Africa, central region (21%). Intimate-partner violence also has a higher prevalence in this region than in other regions.3 In regions affected by conflict there are major challenges to the execution of population-based surveys.26 To obtain a representative sample might be difficult because of logistical and security issues. Additionally, many conflicts (and the perpetration of sexual violence) are localised within a country and, therefore, data from national studies might not fully reflect the situation in specific, conflict-affected areas.26
Although more than 50% of the 412 estimates were derived from dedicated studies of violence against women, the focus in most was on intimate-partner violence and data on non-partner sexual violence were frequently derived from responses to one broad question. This approach is not in line with current recommendations for violence-related surveys. Rather, it is recommended that questions relate to experiences of behaviourally specific acts. Recommendations on the use of standard indicators to measure exposure to non-partner sexual violence have been made27 but have not been widely used. Differences in definitions lead to difficulties, and identification of all forms of sexual violence remains challenging, as does identification of the wide range of perpetrators. Most studies we included did not ask questions to identify perpetrators. In the more detailed analysis of the WHO-MCS, the perpetrators were identified,25 although we used the combined estimate for consistency. The WHO-MCS findings showed that acquaintances were the most common assailants across the ten countries assessed, with the exception of Ethiopia and Japan, where strangers were the most common perpetrators.25 The lack of information on the range of perpetrators of sexual violence is an important limitation in most studies because such information is critical for the development of prevention interventions.

Other study limitations include the inability to conduct age-disaggregated analysis. Additionally, we included studies in which the experiences of sexual violence were reported from age 15 years and upwards. We included experiences from this age to distinguish between sexual violence and child sexual abuse, although by some legal definitions sexual violence at age 15–18 years would be classified only as child sexual abuse. Thus these two categories are not mutually exclusive. We did not include men as victims, although this issue is increasingly being recognised as needing attention.28
Despite the limitations of the existing data, we found that sexual violence is a common experience for women. Sexual violence, irrespective of the perpetrator, violates the human rights of victims and has a profound and enduring effect on their lives. Systematic reviews on the health effects have shown that non-partner sexual violence can lead to short-term and long-term health consequences similar to those for intimate-partner violence, particularly mental health disorders, such as depression, anxiety, and alcohol abuse.29 Furthermore, exposure to any form of sexual violence increases the risk of exposure to other forms of violence. Many studies of child sexual abuse studies show an increased risk of later victimisation.30, 31


Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:39pm
For victims of rape access to early, comprehensive care is crucial. Survivors need to know the importance of immediate care for their long-term health and where it can be sought. Comprehensive care includes supportive and non-judgmental first-line response, emergency contraception to prevent pregnancy, prophylactic treatment to prevent HIV and other sexually transmitted infections, and short-term and long-term mental health support. Social support is also important because the responses of others affect women's health-seeking behaviour and long-term health outcomes.32
Interventions to prevent sexual violence, including legislation and criminal justice interventions, the prevention of child sexual abuse, and other forms of maltreatment need to be researched. Other factors that would be helpful to address are reductions in the harmful use of alcohol and the addressing of social norms on sexual entitlement and masculinity.

Systematic review of the lifetime prevalence of non-partner sexual violence worldwide has shown that one in 14 women aged 15 years or older worldwide has been sexually assaulted by someone other than an intimate partner. For various reasons, including the stigma and blame attached to sexual violence, this value is likely to be an underestimate. The psychological effects of sexual violence and the high prevalence we found confirm that it is a pressing health and human rights concern requiring serious attention. The data have several important gaps that could be filled by the further standardisation of research tools and methods to improve measurement and monitoring. Our findings highlight the need for countries to have their own population-based data on the levels of sexual violence by different perpetrators to improve understanding of the magnitude of the problem and the main risk factors, and to develop appropriate policies and responses, including primary prevention interventions and comprehensive services to treat victims of sexual assaults. To lessen violence against women and to build sexual equality is an important development goal for governments across the world. The addressing and prevention of non-partner sexual violence is a crucial aspect of achieving this goal.

Contributors

NA, KD, CW, and CG-M conceived the study, including the development of the proposal and study methods. NA and SS coordinated the collection and management of data and analysed the data with statistical support from MP. NA led the writing of the paper and all authors contributed to its development and the interpretation of the analysis.

Conflicts of interest

We declare that we have no conflicts of interest.

Acknowledgments

We thank the data managers of the Gender Alcohol and Culture International Study and Holly Johnson of the International Violence against Women Survey. We also thank Natasha Hendricks of the South African Medical Research Council, and Alfred Musekiwa of the Wits Reproductive Health and HIV Institute for assistance during review. The authors alone are responsible for the views expressed in this Article and they do not necessarily represent the views, decisions or policies of the South African Medical Research Council, the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, or WHO.

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2813%2962243-6/fulltext?version=printerFriendly

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:41pm

... wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:25pm:
Post the lancet article then.


HarHere yer goze:

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2813%2962243-6/fulltext?version=printerFriendly

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-12/sexual-violence-prevalence-global-study/5255400


Quote:
Global study finds one in 14 women victims of non-partner sexual assault
By Patrick Wright, Cristen Tilley and wires
Updated 13 Feb 2014, 6:54am

One woman in 14 has been sexually assaulted by someone other than a partner, according to the first global estimate of the problem.

Authors of a report in The Lancet said that despite important gaps in data, the overall picture was clear: sex attacks on women are a big and widely overlooked problem.

Australian data showed that 16.4 per cent of women reported sexual assault by someone other than their partner, which was higher than the global estimate of 7.2 per cent.

But Australian experts have warned it is not possible, based on the report, to say that Australia has twice the prevalence rate of sexual assault compared to other countries.

Their data was trawled from scientific journals as well as "grey" literature, meaning reports in publications that may not be peer-reviewed, an acknowledged benchmark of research.

They identified 77 usable studies, providing 412 estimates of violence.

Overall, 7.2 per cent of women aged 15 years or older told interviewers they had been sexually attacked at least once in their lives by someone who was not their intimate partner, and the prevalence was even greater in Australia and New Zealand, at 16.4 per cent.

"Our findings indicate a pressing health and human rights concern," the investigators said.

The highest rates were in sub-Saharan Africa - 21 per cent in the centre (Democratic Republic of Congo) and 17.4 per cent in the south (Namibia, South Africa and Zimbabwe) - followed by 16.4 per cent in Australia and New Zealand.

The lowest reported prevalence was in South Asia (India and Bangladesh) at 3.3 per cent and north Africa and the Middle East with 4.5 per cent.

Within Europe, three countries in the east (Lithuania, Ukraine, Azerbaijan) had a lower level of sexual assault (6.9 per cent) than countries in the centre (10.7 per cent) and west of the continent (11.5 per cent). The figure for North America was 13 per cent.

"We found that sexual violence is a common experience for women worldwide and in some regions is endemic, reaching more than 15 per cent in four regions," said lead investigator Naeemah Abrahams of the South African Medical Research Council in Cape Town.

The true tally of sexual violence may be far higher in some regions, she said, pointing to South Asia in particular.

The wide differences between regions could be explained by varying levels of disclosure, the authors said, noting cultures in which victims of sexual violence are stigmatised and likelier to conceal their ordeal.

Dr Antonia Quadara, research fellow at the Australian Institute of Family Studies, warns that variations in how the studies are conducted mean direct comparisons are difficult.

"For example, face to face interviews tend to get higher disclosure rates compared to telephone interviews," she said, citing other factors such as using single or multiple questions and the wording of the questions.

A spokeswoman for the Australian Bureau of Statistics told the ABC that comparisons between ABS data and the Lancet study were difficult, due to the definitions used.

The ABS' Personal Safety Survey found that in 2012, an estimated 17 per cent of all women in Australia aged 18 years and over had experienced sexual assault since the age of 15.

In an email exchange with AFP, Professor Abrahams acknowledged the study's limitations.

Data were good from most of Europe, Oceania, Australasia, North America and south-east Asia, but sketchy or lacking in parts of South Asia, north and central Africa and the Middle East. Some countries had no data at all.

Also, the definition of sexual violence was determined by the authors of the original studies, and was not standardised.

But most studies used a common, broad question, of the kind: "Were you ever forced to have sex or perform a sexual act when you did not want to with someone other than your partner?"

Prof Abrahams described the paper as providing a basis for health watchdogs and policymakers to tackle sexual violence against women.

"A prevalence of 7.2 per cent is a big enough problem for any country to be concerned about the experiences of their female citizens," she said.

Dr Quadara says prevention clearly remains the priority.

"This means tackling the attitudes and beliefs about sex, consent and gender that normalise sexual violence, as well increasing women's equality in their relationships, workplaces, and socio-economically," she said.

She added that while many efforts are underway to do this, change can be slow.

"It's important to understand a reduction in the prevalence of sexual assault is a long term endeavour, similar to other public health issues such as smoking, drink driving....

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:42pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:29pm:
Laugh till you sh!t your pants was gang raped by British soccer hooligans.


In your perverted homosexual dreams. Harden up you flaccid tosser.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by double plus good on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:42pm
Do you reckon that blackie who passed AIDS on to humans raped that chimp or took it out to dinner Takes It Till He Cries?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:45pm

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:42pm:
Do you reckon that blackie who passed AIDS on to humans raped that chimp or took it out to dinner Takes It Till He Cries?



Your ignorance is matched only by your repulsiveness.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by double plus good on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:47pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:45pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:42pm:
Do you reckon that blackie who passed AIDS on to humans raped that chimp or took it out to dinner Takes It Till He Cries?



Your ignorance is matched only by your repulsiveness.
Who cares what you think?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by aquascoot on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:50pm
mothra and LTYC,  it would take too much effort to read all that.

i like the "sniff" test.

theres simply no way that rate of rape and sexual assault in australia is 500 % greater then in india and higher then in uganda .

if you believe these stupid statistics , you believe in the tooth fairy.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by double plus good on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:52pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:50pm:
mothra and LTYC,  it would take too much effort to read all that.

i like the "sniff" test.

theres simply no way that rate of rape and sexual assault in australia is 500 % greater then in india and higher then in uganda .

if you believe these stupid statistics , you believe in the tooth fairy.
Most rape goes unreported in  craphole countries. They know that but their hatred of Australians propels them to not tell the truth.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Aussie on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:53pm
Mothra...you posted that you had been raped.  Did you report?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Honky on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:53pm

Quote:
most studies used one broad question to ask women about their experiences of non-partner sexual violence, for instance “Were you ever forced to have sex or to perform a sexual act when you did not want to with someone other than your partner”. Narrower definitions were used by only a few individual studies that measured rates of specific acts, such as “…ever touched sexually against your wishes”


Ah. 


I'd bet the house that Australia was one of "only a few" that inserted a different question, thus generating the impact they needed for this to see the light of day.


Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:53pm

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:50pm:
mothra and LTYC,  it would take too much effort to read all that.

i like the "sniff" test.

theres simply no way that rate of rape and sexual assault in australia is 500 % greater then in india and higher then in uganda .

if you believe these stupid statistics , you believe in the tooth fairy.
Most rape goes unreported in  craphole countries. They know that but their hatred of Australians propels them to not tell the truth.


Most rape goes unreported in Australia. Do you actually have a point?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:54pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:53pm:
Mothra...you posted that you had been raped.  Did you report?



No.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Leftwinger on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:54pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:53pm:
Mothra...you posted that you had been raped.  Did you report?


At first glimpse I thought thread was about you  :o

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by double plus good on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:56pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:53pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:50pm:
mothra and LTYC,  it would take too much effort to read all that.

i like the "sniff" test.

theres simply no way that rate of rape and sexual assault in australia is 500 % greater then in india and higher then in uganda .

if you believe these stupid statistics , you believe in the tooth fairy.
Most rape goes unreported in  craphole countries. They know that but their hatred of Australians propels them to not tell the truth.


Most rape goes unreported in Australia. Do you actually have a point?
Yeah. My point is to not argue with you because you are a fruitloop and a dobber. Now leave me alone thanks.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:58pm

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:53pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:50pm:
mothra and LTYC,  it would take too much effort to read all that.

i like the "sniff" test.

theres simply no way that rate of rape and sexual assault in australia is 500 % greater then in india and higher then in uganda .

if you believe these stupid statistics , you believe in the tooth fairy.
Most rape goes unreported in  craphole countries. They know that but their hatred of Australians propels them to not tell the truth.


Most rape goes unreported in Australia. Do you actually have a point?
Yeah. My point is to not argue with you because you are a fruitloop and a dobber. Now leave me alone thanks.




So that's a 'no' then? Just an excuse to air your revolting views.

And i'm not a 'dobber". How old are you, 12?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Honky on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:00pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:53pm:
Mothra...you posted that you had been raped.  Did you report?



No.



You should have.

Y'all should - if a dude is actually going round attacking women, he needs to be stopped, so he can't hurt anyone else. 

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:03pm

... wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:53pm:
Mothra...you posted that you had been raped.  Did you report?



No.



You should have.

Y'all should - if a dude is actually going round attacking women, he needs to be stopped, so he can't hurt anyone else. 



I was traumatised enough. thanks very much.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Honky on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:04pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:03pm:

... wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:53pm:
Mothra...you posted that you had been raped.  Did you report?



No.



You should have.

Y'all should - if a dude is actually going round attacking women, he needs to be stopped, so he can't hurt anyone else. 



I was traumatised enough. thanks very much.


Yep, and because you didn't report it, other girl(s) may have gone through it too. 

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:04pm
Honky, did you know that only 2 out of every hundred reported rapists record a felony conviction and serve any gaol time

Do you really wonder why women don't put themselves through reporting?
'

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Aussie on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:04pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:53pm:
Mothra...you posted that you had been raped.  Did you report?



No.


That deals with horseman's point quite adequately, but, he'll ignore it.  Just watch.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:05pm

... wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:04pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:03pm:

... wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:53pm:
Mothra...you posted that you had been raped.  Did you report?



No.



You should have.

Y'all should - if a dude is actually going round attacking women, he needs to be stopped, so he can't hurt anyone else. 



I was traumatised enough. thanks very much.


Yep, and because you didn't report it, other girl(s) may have gone through it too. 




God you're an arsehole.

An utterly ignorant arsehole.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Aussie on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:05pm

Its time wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:53pm:
Mothra...you posted that you had been raped.  Did you report?


At first glimpse I thought thread was about you  :o


Yeas.......I understand. 

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:07pm
Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.


Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison


https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Honky on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:09pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:04pm:
Do you really wonder why women don't put themselves through reporting?
'


I don't wonder why per se, but I do wonder how they rationalize it to themselves.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Aussie on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:11pm

... wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:09pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:04pm:
Do you really wonder why women don't put themselves through reporting?
'




I don't wonder why per se, but I do wonder how they rationalize it to themselves.


I don't 'get' that Wesley.  Can you clarify/expand?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:13pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:11pm:

... wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:09pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:04pm:
Do you really wonder why women don't put themselves through reporting?
'




I don't wonder why per se, but I do wonder how they rationalize it to themselves.


I don't 'get' that Wesley.  Can you clarify/expand?




Evidently, he can't read.

... or empathise.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Honky on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:18pm

Quote:
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.”


To my mind, this sentiment applies equally to good women.




Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Aussie on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:31pm

... wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:18pm:

Quote:
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.”


To my mind, this sentiment applies equally to good women.


Wesley, don't take it out of context.  This particular point arose because a Member suggested only backward (or similar word) countries' females would never report sexual abuse.  Mothra's experience blows that out of the water. 

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:35pm

... wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:18pm:

Quote:
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.”


To my mind, this sentiment applies equally to good women.




Spoken by somebody with absolutely no idea at all ... and no empathy.

You that desperate for a 'win' are you Honky.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:52pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.


Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison


https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
absolute codswallop.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:58pm

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.


Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison


https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
absolute codswallop.



You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:58pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:04pm:
Honky, did you know that only 2 out of every hundred reported rapists record a felony conviction and serve any gaol time

Do you really wonder why women don't put themselves through reporting?
'

australia doesnt thave "felony convictions" .

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:00pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.


Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison


https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
absolute codswallop.



You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Explain how an alleged unreported crime can be a "collated statistic""

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:00pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.


Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison


https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
absolute codswallop.



You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian.


And an even worse habit of never supplying any evidence to support his arguments lies.

I doubt that anyone here takes him seriously.

He's pretty much in the same category as Longy/Maria.



Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:01pm

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.


Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison


https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
absolute codswallop.



You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Explain how an alleged unreported crime can be a "collated statistic""




Can you really not work this out for yourself? They are reported to rape crisis centres; doctors; hospitals or counsellors.

Numbers are also uncovered through surveys.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:03pm
Hidden crime of sexual assault

Sexual assault is a vastly under-reported, under-investigated and under-convicted crime. According to the Victorian Law Reform Commission, one in six reports to police of rape, less than one in seven reports of incest or sexual penetration of a child, one in seven reports of women sexually assaulted by a current partner and just over one in six reports of sexual assault by any other male result in prosecution.

Of all those committing sexual assaults in Victoria, less than five per cent face legal punishment. Women are more likely to report the crime to police if the offender is a stranger. Women are less likely to report current husbands, de facto partners or boyfriends.
Reasons for under-reporting of sexual assault

Research shows that sexual assault is not reported to the police for a number of reasons including:
lack of faith in police and the justice system
the fear of not being believed
fear of coping with the medical and legal procedures
fear of reprisals
not wanting family and friends to know
humiliation and shame
prevalent social attitudes, which blame the victim for sexual assault.


https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/sexual-assault

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:10pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:01pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.


Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison


https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
absolute codswallop.



You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Explain how an alleged unreported crime can be a "collated statistic""




Can you really not work this out for yourself? They are reported to rape crisis centres; doctors; hospitals or counsellors.

Numbers are also uncovered through surveys.
Completly unsubstantiated allegations are not "collated statistics". Try again.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:11pm

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:10pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:01pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.


Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison


https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
absolute codswallop.



You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Explain how an alleged unreported crime can be a "collated statistic""




Can you really not work this out for yourself? They are reported to rape crisis centres; doctors; hospitals or counsellors.

Numbers are also uncovered through surveys.
Completly unsubstantiated allegations are not "collated statistics". Try again.



A hospital report is an unsubstantiated allegation?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:12pm
So you would prefer to think these women are all lying Ian? Does that help you sleep better at night?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:12pm
It's largely because of attitudes like yours that these crimes go unreported in the first place.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:15pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:03pm:
Hidden crime of sexual assault

Sexual assault is a vastly under-reported, under-investigated and under-convicted crime. According to the Victorian Law Reform Commission, one in six reports to police of rape, less than one in seven reports of incest or sexual penetration of a child, one in seven reports of women sexually assaulted by a current partner and just over one in six reports of sexual assault by any other male result in prosecution.

Of all those committing sexual assaults in Victoria, less than five per cent face legal punishment. Women are more likely to report the crime to police if the offender is a stranger. Women are less likely to report current husbands, de facto partners or boyfriends.
Reasons for under-reporting of sexual assault

Research shows that sexual assault is not reported to the police for a number of reasons including:
lack of faith in police and the justice system
the fear of not being believed
fear of coping with the medical and legal procedures
fear of reprisals
not wanting family and friends to know
humiliation and shame
prevalent social attitudes, which blame the victim for sexual assault.


https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/sexual-assault
Do you think male victims of sexual assault report it Mothra? Do you think the incidence of under reporting amongst males is likely to be higher or lower than amongst females? What about false claims of sexual assault? Do you think males are more or less likley to be represented here? what about claims of child sexual abuse? Males more or less likely to be represented here?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:16pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:12pm:
It's largely because of attitudes like yours that these crimes go unreported in the first place.

Not really, your main problem is that you think only women can be victims. And so do the courts.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:18pm

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:15pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:03pm:
Hidden crime of sexual assault

Sexual assault is a vastly under-reported, under-investigated and under-convicted crime. According to the Victorian Law Reform Commission, one in six reports to police of rape, less than one in seven reports of incest or sexual penetration of a child, one in seven reports of women sexually assaulted by a current partner and just over one in six reports of sexual assault by any other male result in prosecution.

Of all those committing sexual assaults in Victoria, less than five per cent face legal punishment. Women are more likely to report the crime to police if the offender is a stranger. Women are less likely to report current husbands, de facto partners or boyfriends.
Reasons for under-reporting of sexual assault

Research shows that sexual assault is not reported to the police for a number of reasons including:
lack of faith in police and the justice system
the fear of not being believed
fear of coping with the medical and legal procedures
fear of reprisals
not wanting family and friends to know
humiliation and shame
prevalent social attitudes, which blame the victim for sexual assault.


https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/sexual-assault
Do you think male victims of sexual assault report it Mothra? Do you think the incidence of under reporting amongst males is likely to be higher or lower than amongst females? What about false claims of sexual assault? Do you think males are more or less likley to be represented here? what about claims of child sexual abuse? Males more or less likely to be represented here?



I think males would be less likely to report than females. What is you point?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:18pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:11pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:10pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:01pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.


Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison


https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
absolute codswallop.



You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Explain how an alleged unreported crime can be a "collated statistic""




Can you really not work this out for yourself? They are reported to rape crisis centres; doctors; hospitals or counsellors.

Numbers are also uncovered through surveys.
Completly unsubstantiated allegations are not "collated statistics". Try again.



A hospital report is an unsubstantiated allegation?
mandatory reporting.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:19pm

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:16pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:12pm:
It's largely because of attitudes like yours that these crimes go unreported in the first place.

Not really, your main problem is that you think only women can be victims. And so do the courts.




Please provide evidence of where i have said anything even remotely suggesting that.

In fact, the converse is true. I've spoken out for male victims on numerous occasions.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:19pm

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:18pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:11pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:10pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:01pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.


Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison


https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
absolute codswallop.



You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Explain how an alleged unreported crime can be a "collated statistic""




Can you really not work this out for yourself? They are reported to rape crisis centres; doctors; hospitals or counsellors.

Numbers are also uncovered through surveys.
Completly unsubstantiated allegations are not "collated statistics". Try again.



A hospital report is an unsubstantiated allegation?
mandatory reporting.




No. You do not need to file a police report if you attend hospital.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:20pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:18pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:15pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:03pm:
Hidden crime of sexual assault

Sexual assault is a vastly under-reported, under-investigated and under-convicted crime. According to the Victorian Law Reform Commission, one in six reports to police of rape, less than one in seven reports of incest or sexual penetration of a child, one in seven reports of women sexually assaulted by a current partner and just over one in six reports of sexual assault by any other male result in prosecution.

Of all those committing sexual assaults in Victoria, less than five per cent face legal punishment. Women are more likely to report the crime to police if the offender is a stranger. Women are less likely to report current husbands, de facto partners or boyfriends.
Reasons for under-reporting of sexual assault

Research shows that sexual assault is not reported to the police for a number of reasons including:
lack of faith in police and the justice system
the fear of not being believed
fear of coping with the medical and legal procedures
fear of reprisals
not wanting family and friends to know
humiliation and shame
prevalent social attitudes, which blame the victim for sexual assault.


https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/sexual-assault
Do you think male victims of sexual assault report it Mothra? Do you think the incidence of under reporting amongst males is likely to be higher or lower than amongst females? What about false claims of sexual assault? Do you think males are more or less likley to be represented here? what about claims of child sexual abuse? Males more or less likely to be represented here?



I think males would be less likely to report than females. What is you point?

How many males make false claims of sexual abuse as compared to females do you think?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:20pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:19pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:18pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:11pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:10pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:01pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.


Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison


https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
absolute codswallop.



You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Explain how an alleged unreported crime can be a "collated statistic""




Can you really not work this out for yourself? They are reported to rape crisis centres; doctors; hospitals or counsellors.

Numbers are also uncovered through surveys.
Completly unsubstantiated allegations are not "collated statistics". Try again.



A hospital report is an unsubstantiated allegation?
mandatory reporting.




No. You do not need to file a police report if you attend hospital.
mandatory reporting.  ::)

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:22pm

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:19pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:18pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:11pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:10pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:01pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.


Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison


https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
absolute codswallop.



You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Explain how an alleged unreported crime can be a "collated statistic""




Can you really not work this out for yourself? They are reported to rape crisis centres; doctors; hospitals or counsellors.

Numbers are also uncovered through surveys.
Completly unsubstantiated allegations are not "collated statistics". Try again.



A hospital report is an unsubstantiated allegation?
mandatory reporting.




No. You do not need to file a police report if you attend hospital.
mandatory reporting.  ::)




That only applies to minors. You seriously need to educate yourself better.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:23pm

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:18pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:15pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:03pm:
Hidden crime of sexual assault

Sexual assault is a vastly under-reported, under-investigated and under-convicted crime. According to the Victorian Law Reform Commission, one in six reports to police of rape, less than one in seven reports of incest or sexual penetration of a child, one in seven reports of women sexually assaulted by a current partner and just over one in six reports of sexual assault by any other male result in prosecution.

Of all those committing sexual assaults in Victoria, less than five per cent face legal punishment. Women are more likely to report the crime to police if the offender is a stranger. Women are less likely to report current husbands, de facto partners or boyfriends.
Reasons for under-reporting of sexual assault

Research shows that sexual assault is not reported to the police for a number of reasons including:
lack of faith in police and the justice system
the fear of not being believed
fear of coping with the medical and legal procedures
fear of reprisals
not wanting family and friends to know
humiliation and shame
prevalent social attitudes, which blame the victim for sexual assault.


https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/sexual-assault
Do you think male victims of sexual assault report it Mothra? Do you think the incidence of under reporting amongst males is likely to be higher or lower than amongst females? What about false claims of sexual assault? Do you think males are more or less likley to be represented here? what about claims of child sexual abuse? Males more or less likely to be represented here?



I think males would be less likely to report than females. What is you point?

How many males make false claims of sexual abuse as compared to females do you think?




And the relevance of that is?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:34pm
Also, you do know that mandatory reporting doesn't mean a police report, don't you?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:45pm

ian ...



Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:12pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:22pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:19pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:18pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:11pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:10pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:01pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.


Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison


https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
absolute codswallop.



You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Explain how an alleged unreported crime can be a "collated statistic""




Can you really not work this out for yourself? They are reported to rape crisis centres; doctors; hospitals or counsellors.

Numbers are also uncovered through surveys.
Completly unsubstantiated allegations are not "collated statistics". Try again.



A hospital report is an unsubstantiated allegation?
mandatory reporting.




No. You do not need to file a police report if you attend hospital.
mandatory reporting.  ::)




That only applies to minors. You seriously need to educate yourself better.
wrong.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:13pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:34pm:
Also, you do know that mandatory reporting doesn't mean a police report, don't you?

Thats exactly what it means. A mandatory report to the police.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:16pm

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:12pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:22pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:19pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:18pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:11pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:10pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:01pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.


Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison


https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
absolute codswallop.



You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Explain how an alleged unreported crime can be a "collated statistic""




Can you really not work this out for yourself? They are reported to rape crisis centres; doctors; hospitals or counsellors.

Numbers are also uncovered through surveys.
Completly unsubstantiated allegations are not "collated statistics". Try again.



A hospital report is an unsubstantiated allegation?
mandatory reporting.




No. You do not need to file a police report if you attend hospital.
mandatory reporting.  ::)




That only applies to minors. You seriously need to educate yourself better.
wrong.




Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:19pm
I honestly don't know where you get your information from or whether you just make it up to suit yourself.

Mandatory reporting is for minors that have been abused. The report goes to Child Protection Agencies, not the police.


Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by beer on Jan 31st, 2016 at 9:36pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:19pm:
I honestly don't know where you get your information from or whether you just make it up to suit yourself.

Mandatory reporting is for minors that have been abused. The report goes to Child Protection Agencies, not the police.


Only food and sex in TV, what do you expect?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:51pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:19pm:
I honestly don't know where you get your information from or whether you just make it up to suit yourself.

Mandatory reporting is for minors that have been abused. The report goes to Child Protection Agencies, not the police.
child protection agencies are required to report any knowledge of a crime to the police. i.e. a child being sexually abused. i wasnt aware that child sexual abuse doesnt factor into your equation. So far, you have excluded males, now you exclude children, but its not just about women eh Mothra?

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 11:01pm

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:51pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:19pm:
I honestly don't know where you get your information from or whether you just make it up to suit yourself.

Mandatory reporting is for minors that have been abused. The report goes to Child Protection Agencies, not the police.
child protection agencies are required to report any knowledge of a crime to the police. i.e. a child being sexually abused. i wasnt aware that child sexual abuse doesnt factor into your equation. So far, you have excluded males, now you exclude children, but its not just about women eh Mothra?




You're just making it all up as you go along aren't you? At least you've evolved a little and concede that mandatory reporters don't report to the police.

Baby steps, but we'll get you there.

Child Protection Agencies are not required to report to the police. The police, however, are mandatory reporters. You dig?

And i have not excluded men OR children. I have included men in my statistics and conceded that men are more likely to under-report than women. What more do you want?

As for children. my statistics include people (male and female) over the age of 15. THAT is what we are discussing here. We are not discussing child sexual abuse, which is where the laws of mandatory reporting come in.

You seem to be a little desperate to 'catch me out' Ian.

You are failing. Miserably. And making a bit of a tit of yourself in the process.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 11:25pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 11:01pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:51pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:19pm:
I honestly don't know where you get your information from or whether you just make it up to suit yourself.

Mandatory reporting is for minors that have been abused. The report goes to Child Protection Agencies, not the police.
child protection agencies are required to report any knowledge of a crime to the police. i.e. a child being sexually abused. i wasnt aware that child sexual abuse doesnt factor into your equation. So far, you have excluded males, now you exclude children, but its not just about women eh Mothra?




You're just making it all up as you go along aren't you? At least you've evolved a little and concede that mandatory reporters don't report to the police.

Baby steps, but we'll get you there.

Child Protection Agencies are not required to report to the police. The police, however, are mandatory reporters. You dig?

And i have not excluded men OR children. I have included men in my statistics and conceded that men are more likely to under-report than women. What more do you want?

As for children. my statistics include people (male and female) over the age of 15. THAT is what we are discussing here. We are not discussing child sexual abuse, which is where the laws of mandatory reporting come in.

You seem to be a little desperate to 'catch me out' Ian.

You are failing. Miserably. And making a bit of a tit of yourself in the process.
nah, backpedalling again Mothra. You caught yourself out, people with a pre set agenda always do. all I did was give you the rope. You were caught lying by claiming that 17 percent of women have been raped, you have been caught claiming unsubstantiated allegations are somehow valid statistics, you attemtped to exclude males, now you exclude children. Keep backpedalling. your agenda has been exposed.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 11:29pm
Keep telling yourself that Ian. If you think it makes you look less ridiculous.

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Culture Warrior on Feb 1st, 2016 at 6:26am
Very predictable. When Australians rape, Mothra's there to condemn. When Pakistanis rape 1,400 (white) children, she fobs it off by saying "this happens in all cultures".

Title: Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Post by Laugh till you cry on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:49am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 6:26am:
Very predictable. When Australians rape, Mothra's there to condemn. When Pakistanis rape 1,400 (white) children, she fobs it off by saying "this happens in all cultures".


Culture warrior supports Australian rapists and condemns foreign rapists?

That's perverted jingoism.

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