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Message started by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 9:55am

Title: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 9:55am
Free taxpayer beer is not attracting recruits. "The shortage also extends to essentials such as medical staff; the defence forces have only 40 per cent of the doctors they need."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/recruitment-on-the-ropes/story-e6frg6z6-1225710726558


Quote:
Defence force recruitment on the ropes
GREG CALLAGHAN THE AUSTRALIAN MAY 11, 2009 12:00AM

YOU don't have to find 2030 in the crystal ball - this being the date earmarked for strategic forward planning in the recent white paper - to appreciate the magnitude of challenges facing Australia's defence forces. You just have to take one look at the world today. A world in which the scale of the nation's military commitments has never been broader - Iraq, Afghanistan, East Timor, as peacekeepers in the Solomon Islands - nor the range of potential conflicts greater. A world in which the centre of gravity of economic and political power is shifting from Europe and North America to Asia. A world in which China is building the strongest military in Asia, recently giving the green light to a fleet of aircraft carriers.

The 140-page white paper, the first in eight years, outlines plans for a host of hi-tech equipment, including 12 new submarines and 100 joint strike fighters, but devotes only one five-page chapter to arguably the biggest battle of all: the one for boots on the ground. And by any measure, the latest figures on recruitment from the Defence Department make for depressing reading. So far this year, the navy has only managed to achieve 71 per cent of its desired recruitment total, a shortfall of 412 new sailors from its target of 1434. While the air force is faring better, achieving 87 per cent of its target, or 136 personnel shy of its goal of 1081, the recruitment figure is down by 6 per cent on this time last year. The army is in better shape, achieving 91 per cent of its recruitment target, but this means it's still missing more than 300 soldiers it needs.

The ADF's peak recruitment period is in the early months of the calendar year, when school leavers and others join the workforce. If all three defence services are still thin on recruitment during these critical months, at the height of the worst recession since the 1930s, how on earth, defence analysts ask, are they expected to reach their targets when the economy starts to boom again?

The latest figures from the ADF stand in stark contrast to those just released from the British Army, which has enjoyed a 14 per cent rise in recruitment in the six months to March 31, and is now in the enviable position of reaching its full targets for the first time in a generation. Americans, too, are signing up in rapidly increasing numbers, lured by attractions such as a steady wage, cheap health benefits and training. Just since December last year, 21,443 new soldiers have joined active duty or the reserves, reports The New York Times.

There is evidence that the Australian staffing shortages are already putting a brake on some defence activities: most glaring is the inability of the Royal Australian Navy to man more than three of its six Collins class submarines at any one time. The navy needs 662 submariners, and only has 429, which means that even on a good day it's running at two-thirds' strength. A lack of engineers to fix malfunctioning equipment - most recently, an escape vehicle on one of the subs - has proved to be an additional problem.

"This is an absolute disgrace," declares Hugh White, head of the strategic and defence studies centre at the Australian National University, where he is a professor, as well as being a visiting fellow at Sydney's Lowy Institute. "The navy is now paying the price for spending years not putting a high priority on maintaining its crews."

White blames a defence force whose employment culture dates back to the 19th-century English model, whose management structure is too diffuse, too cumbersome, and too costly. "How difficult is it to get 200 new mariners from the pool of two million Australians aged between 18 and 25?" asks White. "Diffusion of power and responsibility has become a real problem in the navy. Why not employ one expert whose sole job it is to make certain that all the submarines are fully crewed. If he succeeds, he gets a bonus; if not, he gets the sack."

While the economic downturn appears to have resulted in higher retention rates in some areas of the ADF - personnel are less likely to bale out if they don't see jobs in the civilian marketplace - they're nowhere close to those in the US army. The ADF, however, has applied manpower tourniquets to keep bodies in uniform over the past few years, says Defence Science and Personnel Minister Warren Snowdon. "Our retention rates are improving, and we now have record rates in the air force. We're getting much better at managing and opening up career paths."

To sweeten the prospect of signing up to a long-term contract, the ADF has been dangling higher salaries, more flexible work schedules and technical scholarships. But Snowdon emphasises that the ADF should never be seen as an employer of last resort, which is why an economic downturn doesn't necessarily mean a sudden surge in enlistments. The ADF will never compromise on health and fitness, he says, or commitment to the standards of service.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by it_is_the_light on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:03am




its just the mail

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by John Smith on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:06am
not surprised they're struggling to find recruits ... who wants to join knowing they'll be sent to some sh1thole to fight someone else's fight?

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by it_is_the_light on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:10am

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:06am:
not surprised they're struggling to find recruits ... who wants to join knowing they'll be sent to some sh1thole to fight someone else's fight?


many blessings john smith , and yes

just like gallipoli when the crown sent her adjutants

to murder all anzacs and send them like lambs to the slaughter

they tipped off johnny turk and the british officers ordered the murder / genocide

of thousands of australian and new zealand grunts aka infantrymen ... many ignorant dupes continue to celebrate every year in a token masonic ritual annually

this is observed as the retardation resulting from mass mind control of the human population , this is currently

and exponentially being rectified in every now moment as the sun/sol continues to project the higher ViBrAtOrY frequencies

being absorbed by everyones dna in every now moment

so carry on regardless and be at peace in love and light

namaste


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:11am
Hold on ockers. We can fix that:

"AUSTRALIA'S military may soon be led by overweight officers with poor eyesight and asthma under a radical proposal to tackle a recruitment crisis within the Defence Force."

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1545316/posts


Quote:
The new officer cadet: fat, asthmatic and colourblind-(AUSTRALIA'S military)
news.com ^ | December 23, 2005 | By Michael McKinnon and Michael McKenna
Posted on 12/22/2005, 9:07:51 PM by Flavius

AUSTRALIA'S military may soon be led by overweight officers with poor eyesight and asthma under a radical proposal to tackle a recruitment crisis within the Defence Force. The army, navy and airforce are considering plans to relax eyesight and weight criteria for officer recruits in an effort to fill recruitment quotas and accept more of the 10 per cent of applicants who fail on health grounds.

The chiefs of Australia's three military services have ordered a review of the once-strict eligibility criteria in the face of falling numbers of recruit applications and government moves to expand the size of the Defence Force amid current global instability. Documents, obtained by The Australian under Freedom of Information laws reveal the ADF has for the sixth consecutive year fallen 20 per cent short of its recruitment target at the same time as it deals with increasing numbers of Defence staff leaving for the more lucrative private sector.

The recruitment problems are being felt across all three services, as well as the Army Reserve, with the greatest shortfalls among officer candidates.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:19am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:10am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:06am:
not surprised they're struggling to find recruits ... who wants to join knowing they'll be sent to some sh1thole to fight someone else's fight?


many blessings john smith , and yes

just like gallipoli when the crown sent her adjutants

to murder all anzacs and send them like lambs to the slaughter

they tipped off johnny turk and the british officers ordered the murder / genocide

of thousands of australian and new zealand grunts aka infantrymen ... many ignorant dupes continue to celebrate every year in a token masonic ritual annually

this is observed as the retardation resulting from mass mind control of the human population

this is currently and exponentially being rectified in every now moment

so be at peace in love and light

namaste




Who'd join the ADF?

It's full of poofters who'd ream out your butt if they had half a chance.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by it_is_the_light on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:22am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:19am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:10am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:06am:
not surprised they're struggling to find recruits ... who wants to join knowing they'll be sent to some sh1thole to fight someone else's fight?


many blessings john smith , and yes

just like gallipoli when the crown sent her adjutants

to murder all anzacs and send them like lambs to the slaughter

they tipped off johnny turk and the british officers ordered the murder / genocide

of thousands of australian and new zealand grunts aka infantrymen ... many ignorant dupes continue to celebrate every year in a token masonic ritual annually

this is observed as the retardation resulting from mass mind control of the human population

this is currently and exponentially being rectified in every now moment

so be at peace in love and light

namaste




Who'd join the ADF?

It's full of poofters who'd ream out your butt if they had half a chance.


many blessings sir bobby

you are talking about the puss heads aka navy

" go in an arsehole and come out a porthole " it is said

they also conduct masonic rituals of naked poofterisms at the tropics of capricorn and cancer

gay rituals and ceremonies on the high seas with heaps of seamen

this is observed for what that is

namaste

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:24am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:22am:
many blessings sir bobby

you are talking about the puss heads aka navy

" go in an arsehole and come out a porthole " it is said

they also conduct masonic rituals of naked poofterisms at the tropics of capricorn and cancer

gay rituals and ceremonies on the high seas with heaps of seamen

this is observed for what that is

namaste



yes - the navy is the worst.

They also rape any woman who happens to be there.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:28am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:19am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:10am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:06am:
not surprised they're struggling to find recruits ... who wants to join knowing they'll be sent to some sh1thole to fight someone else's fight?


many blessings john smith , and yes

just like gallipoli when the crown sent her adjutants

to murder all anzacs and send them like lambs to the slaughter

they tipped off johnny turk and the british officers ordered the murder / genocide

of thousands of australian and new zealand grunts aka infantrymen ... many ignorant dupes continue to celebrate every year in a token masonic ritual annually

this is observed as the retardation resulting from mass mind control of the human population

this is currently and exponentially being rectified in every now moment

so be at peace in love and light

namaste




Who'd join the ADF?

It's full of poofters who'd ream out your butt if they had half a chance.


many blessings sir bobby

you are talking about the puss heads aka navy

" go in an arsehole and come out a porthole " it is said

they also conduct masonic rituals of naked poofterisms at the tropics of capricorn and cancer

gay rituals and ceremonies on the high seas with heaps of seamen

this is observed for what that is

namaste


The rank of rear admiral was created to officiate at these ceremonies.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by it_is_the_light on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:29am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:24am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:22am:
many blessings sir bobby

you are talking about the puss heads aka navy

" go in an arsehole and come out a porthole " it is said

they also conduct masonic rituals of naked poofterisms at the tropics of capricorn and cancer

gay rituals and ceremonies on the high seas with heaps of seamen

this is observed for what that is

namaste



yes - the navy is the worst.

They also rape any woman who happens to be there.


it may be how you say it to be so sir bobby

once the lady is raped then the masonic ritual is to further torment the victim in a courtroom

this is more freemasonry accessing the 4 human bodies

the physical , the emotional , the mental and astral bodies in an attempt

to latch negative entities unto the victim

that repeat constantly negative thoughtforms

yet all are loved

namaste

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:32am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:24am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:22am:
many blessings sir bobby

you are talking about the puss heads aka navy

" go in an arsehole and come out a porthole " it is said

they also conduct masonic rituals of naked poofterisms at the tropics of capricorn and cancer

gay rituals and ceremonies on the high seas with heaps of seamen

this is observed for what that is

namaste



yes - the navy is the worst.

They also rape any woman who happens to be there.


it may be how you say it to be so sir bobby

once the lady is raped then the masonic ritual is to further torment the victim in a courtroom

this is more freemasonry accessing the 4 human bodies

the physical , the emotional , the mental and astral bodies

yet all are loved

namaste


Women are not always their first choice. Sometimes livestock are dragooned.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Leftwinger on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:34am

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:06am:
not surprised they're struggling to find recruits ... who wants to join knowing they'll be sent to some sh1thole to fight someone else's fight?



True that, when you have a government that can't wait to commit you to a conflict with absolutely no plan whatsoever and a victory that will never ever ever ever ever happen why would you.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by it_is_the_light on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:35am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:28am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:19am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:10am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:06am:
not surprised they're struggling to find recruits ... who wants to join knowing they'll be sent to some sh1thole to fight someone else's fight?


many blessings john smith , and yes

just like gallipoli when the crown sent her adjutants

to murder all anzacs and send them like lambs to the slaughter

they tipped off johnny turk and the british officers ordered the murder / genocide

of thousands of australian and new zealand grunts aka infantrymen ... many ignorant dupes continue to celebrate every year in a token masonic ritual annually

this is observed as the retardation resulting from mass mind control of the human population

this is currently and exponentially being rectified in every now moment

so be at peace in love and light

namaste




Who'd join the ADF?

It's full of poofters who'd ream out your butt if they had half a chance.


many blessings sir bobby

you are talking about the puss heads aka navy

" go in an arsehole and come out a porthole " it is said

they also conduct masonic rituals of naked poofterisms at the tropics of capricorn and cancer

gay rituals and ceremonies on the high seas with heaps of seamen

this is observed for what that is

namaste


The rank of rear admiral was created to officiate at these ceremonies.


many blessings laugh till you cry and lo ,

it is how you say it to be so ,

for the rear admiral has a soft spot , it is said

for all the seamen and much ceremony is conducted

this ceremony in specificity is to feminize the male of the species

so that negative entities can do their work

through the demasculated male as he continues

a downward spiral into depravity

namaste

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by BigOl64 on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:58am

Its time wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:34am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:06am:
not surprised they're struggling to find recruits ... who wants to join knowing they'll be sent to some sh1thole to fight someone else's fight?



True that, when you have a government that can't wait to commit you to a conflict with absolutely no plan whatsoever and a victory that will never ever ever ever ever happen why would you.


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by BigOl64 on Jan 31st, 2016 at 11:00am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:19am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:10am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:06am:
not surprised they're struggling to find recruits ... who wants to join knowing they'll be sent to some sh1thole to fight someone else's fight?


many blessings john smith , and yes

just like gallipoli when the crown sent her adjutants

to murder all anzacs and send them like lambs to the slaughter

they tipped off johnny turk and the british officers ordered the murder / genocide

of thousands of australian and new zealand grunts aka infantrymen ... many ignorant dupes continue to celebrate every year in a token masonic ritual annually

this is observed as the retardation resulting from mass mind control of the human population

this is currently and exponentially being rectified in every now moment

so be at peace in love and light

namaste




Who'd join the ADF?

It's full of poofters who'd ream out your butt if they had half a chance.


many blessings sir bobby

you are talking about the puss heads aka navy

" go in an arsehole and come out a porthole " it is said

they also conduct masonic rituals of naked poofterisms at the tropics of capricorn and cancer

gay rituals and ceremonies on the high seas with heaps of seamen

this is observed for what that is

namaste



Ohh look, booby forgot that you used to be in the army, but nice recovery there wharfy.  :D :D


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:00pm
It appears that ADF is fighting Muslims in their ranks, losing, and is too busy to take on outsiders:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-26/australian-muslim-soldier-branded-security-risk/6963698


Quote:
A soldier who converted to Islam says he was branded a "security risk" and told he would never be promoted because of his religion.

Key points:

Australian soldier said he was ostracised after converting to Islam
Much of the alleged discrimination was perpetrated by senior officers
Prominent Muslim naval captain described one of the incidents as "alarming"
The soldier's wife has taken the matter to the Chief of Army
The lance bombardier claims he was also excluded from group counselling sessions and told to find another job "if he wanted to practise Islam properly".

As a drone pilot from the 20th Surveillance and Target Acquisition regiment, he spent eight months in Afghanistan in 2011 where he was immersed in the world of military intelligence.

"He's a skilled operator of one of the most technical pieces of equipment we have in the Army," said military lawyer Brian Briggs, who is pursuing a separate compensation claim on behalf of the Brisbane-based soldier.

Do you know more about this story? Email greene.andrew@abc.net.au
"He witnessed some pretty atrocious things where he saw people being killed, not on a daily, but certainly on a regular basis.

"How he's being treated is certainly not good enough."

Anthony John (not his real name) enlisted in the army after the September 11 terrorism attacks in 2001. Eight months later he married an Indonesian woman and converted to Islam.

Australian Muslim soldier praying
PHOTO: Mr John said he was told he should find another job if he wanted to practise Islam. (ABC News: Alex McDonald)
As a serving member of the Australian Defence Force (ADF), he asked not be identified as he feared being targeted by those with an extreme view of Islam.

He believes some of those who serve alongside him fall into that category.

Mr John said he had experienced discrimination repeatedly during his 13-year career, much of it perpetrated by senior army members.

In 2008 — before he joined the surveillance unit — he said a senior army member berated him in front of a group of soldiers.

"My immediate supervisor told me that I would never be deployed or promoted because I'm a security risk," Mr John said. "Because I was a Muslim."

Soldier's colleague fined over anti-Islamic Facebook post

In 2013, a member of his unit posted on social media that all Muslims were "filthy", "scum" and "worthless".

"If they go overseas with that sort of attitude, in a country where they are predominately Muslim, then we're not really setting a good example for ourselves," Mr John said.

"In fact, we're probably making [ourselves] targets."

Racist Facebook comment

Mr John reported the Facebook abuse through his chain of command.

The member responsible was fined $400 and forced to apologise. Mr John said the incident made him deeply unpopular within the regiment.

Last year, he asked to work flexible hours during Ramadan. When his request was refused he approached an Army chaplain for advice.

He said the chaplain suggested he "find another job if he wanted to practise Islam properly".

"I said, 'are you serious?' And he said, 'yes'."

'No evidence' to support discrimination claim

Again he reported the incident internally. But this time he was advised he could be charged with making a vexatious complaint.

Although the Army conceded the conversation had occurred, his commanding officer, Lieutenant Colonel Bede Galvin, said there was no evidence to substantiate his discrimination claim.

His commanding officer suggested it was simply a misunderstanding.

"It clearly was not a misunderstanding between two people," Mr John said.

"I had definitely sought the right advice through the systems available within the military."

The routine inquiry which followed recommended administrative action be taken against Mr John.

The lance bombardier was criticised for using a "religious angle" in his complaint and of being "uncompromising in his expectations".

His commanding officer said there had been "confusion" on both sides and cleared the chaplain of any wrongdoing.

"It was a legitimate complaint," Mr John said. "I hadn't just flown off the handle."

"All I wanted to do was do my job."

He then took his case to the Inspector General of the ADF (IGADF) — an independent body set up to deal with unresolved matters of military justice.

The IGADF found a warrant officer in Mr John's unit had a leadership style that was "incompatible" with the contemporary ADF.

But in a subsequent meeting in June, Lieutenant Colonel Galvin questioned his decision to go outside the chain of command.

"The fact that you went through an anonymous complaint to [IGADF]," Lieutenant Colonel Galvin said, "It would have been very different if you'd given the complaint to me."

"If I don't know about it, I can't do anything about it, and if I lose control of it, I can't help you."

Lawyer Brian Briggs said the alleged discrimination has had a "severe impact" on his client and his family.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:25pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:35am:
many blessings laugh till you cry and lo ,

it is how you say it to be so ,

for the rear admiral has a soft spot , it is said

for all the seamen and much ceremony is conducted

this ceremony in specificity is to feminize the male of the species

so that negative entities can do their work

through the demasculated male as he continues

a downward spiral into depravity

namaste




And we expect these poofters to defend us in times of war?

They will hit the enemy with their handbags.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:25pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:35am:
many blessings laugh till you cry and lo ,

it is how you say it to be so ,

for the rear admiral has a soft spot , it is said

for all the seamen and much ceremony is conducted

this ceremony in specificity is to feminize the male of the species

so that negative entities can do their work

through the demasculated male as he continues

a downward spiral into depravity

namaste




And we expect these poofters to defend us in times of war?

They will hit the enemy with their handbags.


Or worse! Turn tail and show the enemy a clean pair of cheeks.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by double plus good on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:30pm
The usual anti Australian scum are posting again. How predictable. I wish they'd ship off somewhere else.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:32am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:24am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:22am:
many blessings sir bobby

you are talking about the puss heads aka navy

" go in an arsehole and come out a porthole " it is said

they also conduct masonic rituals of naked poofterisms at the tropics of capricorn and cancer

gay rituals and ceremonies on the high seas with heaps of seamen

this is observed for what that is

namaste



yes - the navy is the worst.

They also rape any woman who happens to be there.


it may be how you say it to be so sir bobby

once the lady is raped then the masonic ritual is to further torment the victim in a courtroom

this is more freemasonry accessing the 4 human bodies

the physical , the emotional , the mental and astral bodies

yet all are loved

namaste


Women are not always their first choice. Sometimes livestock are dragooned.


Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."


ADF Pedos

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm

Its time wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:34am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:06am:
not surprised they're struggling to find recruits ... who wants to join knowing they'll be sent to some sh1thole to fight someone else's fight?



True that, when you have a government that can't wait to commit you to a conflict with absolutely no plan whatsoever and a victory that will never ever ever ever ever happen why would you.
definitely something you wouldnt understand. Not sure why you are posting here and not at some inner city cafe discuissing which handbag goes with your nails.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by red baron on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:26pm
You dickheads have no idea what it is like to serve in the Defence Forces.

Most of you are wankers who would have trouble holding down a job as a sh.thouse cleaner.

You haven't got the first clue of what it is like to serve your Country and I won't waste my time trying to explain to cretins like you just what it does mean.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:31pm

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:26pm:
You dickheads have no idea what it is like to serve in the Defence Forces.


Sounds like it's a lot like working in the Catholic Church.

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."

ADF Pedos


The ADF must recruit on pedophilia web sites.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:35pm

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:26pm:
You dickheads have no idea what it is like to serve in the Defence Forces.

Most of you are wankers who would have trouble holding down a job as a sh.thouse cleaner.

You haven't got the first clue of what it is like to serve your Country and I won't waste my time trying to explain to cretins like you just what it does mean.


I believe Red Baron could hold down a job as a sh1thouse cleaner. He's full of it.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by red baron on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:35pm
Been working in the catholic church have we Gregg? Been helping Father Fitzsimon in after Church activities, how to play housie with a five fingered approach? :D

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:40pm

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:35pm:
Been working in the catholic church have we Gregg? Been helping Father Fitzsimon in after Church activities, how to play housie with a five fingered approach? :D


No, I've never worked in the Catholic Church.

Down the road we have two priests: Patrick Fitzmichael and Michael Fitzpatrick.


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Ajax on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:54pm
Most Aussies know that these wars based on fabricated lies have nothing to do with our society, democracy or freedom.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by BigOl64 on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:03pm

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:26pm:
You dickheads have no idea what it is like to serve in the Defence Forces.

Most of you are wankers who would have trouble holding down a job as a sh.thouse cleaner.

You haven't got the first clue of what it is like to serve your Country and I won't waste my time trying to explain to cretins like you just what it does mean.



It's just greggy and laughing boy trying to troll the board and not very successfully.  ;D ;D ;D


I have never seen such a pathetic try-hards fail so miserably, in what is a pretty simple process; there are intellectually challenged people who do better than this pair.

You just know at least one or more of the significant women in their lives has been out slurping down on some Digger while they have been waiting at home for their dinner.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by cods on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:12pm

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:35pm:
Been working in the catholic church have we Gregg? Been helping Father Fitzsimon in after Church activities, how to play housie with a five fingered approach? :D



its just their minds that work in the sewer rb.. they dont WORK>.they  prefer to talk dirty on the web for hours....maybe they cant afford the fees to belong to a muck club...and have to get their rocks off on here....


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by cods on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:13pm

Ajax wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:54pm:
Most Aussies know that these wars based on fabricated lies have nothing to do with our society, democracy or freedom.



we have NO ENEMIES...[ and no need of a defence..

labor and the greens assured us......are you saying they lied?>

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Aussie on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:21pm

cods wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:12pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:35pm:
Been working in the catholic church have we Gregg? Been helping Father Fitzsimon in after Church activities, how to play housie with a five fingered approach? :D



its just their minds that work in the sewer rb.. they dont WORK>.they  prefer to talk dirty on the web for hours....maybe they cant afford the fees to belong to a muck club...and have to get their rocks off on here....


cods, do you have the slightest idea what you have just quoted?  And where is your condemnation of this, in the post immediately prior to yours?  This one from BigOl64.


Quote:
It's just greggy and laughing boy trying to troll the board and not very successfully.  Grin Grin Grin


I have never seen such a pathetic try-hards fail so miserably, in what is a pretty simple process; there are intellectually challenged people who do better than this pair.

You just know at least one or more of the significant women in their lives has been out slurping down on some Digger while they have been waiting at home for their dinner.  Grin Grin Grin


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Ajax on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:22pm

cods wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:13pm:

Ajax wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:54pm:
Most Aussies know that these wars based on fabricated lies have nothing to do with our society, democracy or freedom.



we have NO ENEMIES...[ and no need of a defence..

labor and the greens assured us......are you saying they lied?>


We do need a defence force.

We don't need enemies.

and all politicians are liars.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by cods on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:31pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:21pm:

cods wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:12pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:35pm:
Been working in the catholic church have we Gregg? Been helping Father Fitzsimon in after Church activities, how to play housie with a five fingered approach? :D



its just their minds that work in the sewer rb.. they dont WORK>.they  prefer to talk dirty on the web for hours....maybe they cant afford the fees to belong to a muck club...and have to get their rocks off on here....


cods, do you have the slightest idea what you have just quoted?  And where is your condemnation of this, in the post immediately prior to yours?  This one from BigOl64.


Quote:
It's just greggy and laughing boy trying to troll the board and not very successfully.  Grin Grin Grin


I have never seen such a pathetic try-hards fail so miserably, in what is a pretty simple process; there are intellectually challenged people who do better than this pair.

You just know at least one or more of the significant women in their lives has been out slurping down on some Digger while they have been waiting at home for their dinner.  Grin Grin Grin





unlike yourself.... I dont read every word... where is your condemnation..

isnt your record abuse thread open today????>..

I am sure you are dying for a gmod to read it..

you worry about what you read..

and i will worry about what I read..

when a thread is turned into a gay bashing nothing but who can say the slimiest..........then yes I notice..

and guess who are the BEST at slime?.



Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Aussie on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:33pm
Where is your condemnation, cods?  Mine has been sent to Hicks and FD.  It is also in the two relevant Threads in Relationships.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Leftwinger on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:40pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:35pm:
Been working in the catholic church have we Gregg? Been helping Father Fitzsimon in after Church activities, how to play housie with a five fingered approach? :D


No, I've never worked in the Catholic Church.

Down the road we have two priests: Patrick Fitzmichael and Michael Fitzpatrick.


;D

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:12pm

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:26pm:
You dickheads have no idea what it is like to serve in the Defence Forces.

Most of you are wankers who would have trouble holding down a job as a sh.thouse cleaner.

You haven't got the first clue of what it is like to serve your Country and I won't waste my time trying to explain to cretins like you just what it does mean.



Name those dickheads.

Do you deny that poofters are in the armed forces?

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:14pm
Red Baron and its ilk needs to harden up. No wonder immigrants have to be selected from those countries where men are known to be able to get it up.

Red Baron and its ilk has gone flaccid.

Harden up Red and get your ilk behind you.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by lee on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."



Can you tell us the last time the ADF recruited 13 year olds?

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:47pm

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."



Can you tell us the last time the ADF recruited 13 year olds?


How else would they react when a drowning sailor demands "throw me a boy".

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by double plus good on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:57pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:47pm:

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."



Can you tell us the last time the ADF recruited 13 year olds?


How else would they react when a drowning sailor demands "throw me a boy".
You know what the blackie sailor said?- throw me a chimp. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Leftwinger on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:59pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:47pm:

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."



Can you tell us the last time the ADF recruited 13 year olds?


How else would they react when a drowning sailor demands "throw me a boy".


;D

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by double plus good on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:01pm
What did the Aboriginal elder sailor say?

Throw me a couple of boys, it's dole day. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:36pm

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."



Can you tell us the last time the ADF recruited 13 year olds?


Back when they were raping them.

What are you saying - because it happened a long time ago, you excuse their paedophilia/rape/child abuse?

Why would you excuse such behaviour?




Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:12pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:26pm:
You dickheads have no idea what it is like to serve in the Defence Forces.

Most of you are wankers who would have trouble holding down a job as a sh.thouse cleaner.

You haven't got the first clue of what it is like to serve your Country and I won't waste my time trying to explain to cretins like you just what it does mean.



Name those dickheads.

Do you deny that poofters are in the armed forces?


Who cares if there are gays in the ADF? It's no big deal, and it's perfectly legal, Booby.

What worries me is these guys screwing kids.

Why do people excuse such behaviour - seriously?


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:49pm

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."



Can you tell us the last time the ADF recruited 13 year olds?


I decided to put google to work.

It seems they they still want to get their hands on the little kiddies:

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitment-centre/can-i-join/age-gender/

I wonder if the ADF supplies the vaseline.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by aquascoot on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:49pm:

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."



Can you tell us the last time the ADF recruited 13 year olds?


I decided to put google to work.

It seems they they still want to get their hands on the little kiddies:

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitment-centre/can-i-join/age-gender/
I wonder if the ADF supplies the vaseline.



i think theres only one way to find out.
take your laptop down to the mess hall at 6 RAR, go up to a couple of the lads, identify yourself as gweggary, show them your posts and seek a response.
Take LTYC with you.

get back to us with what kind of reception you recieve  ;) ;)


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:55pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:49pm:

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."



Can you tell us the last time the ADF recruited 13 year olds?


I decided to put google to work.

It seems they they still want to get their hands on the little kiddies:

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitment-centre/can-i-join/age-gender/
I wonder if the ADF supplies the vaseline.



i think theres only one way to find out.
take your laptop down to the mess hall at 6 RAR, go up to a couple of the lads, identify yourself as gweggary, show them your posts and seek a response.
Take LTYC with you.

get back to us with what kind of reception you recieve  ;) ;)


Sorry aqua, I have no interest in associating with child molesters and rapists.

Ten years old!!! They are trying to get kids as young as ten!

Why do you support this?




Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by double plus good on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:03pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:49pm:

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."



Can you tell us the last time the ADF recruited 13 year olds?


I decided to put google to work.

It seems they they still want to get their hands on the little kiddies:

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitment-centre/can-i-join/age-gender/
I wonder if the ADF supplies the vaseline.



i think theres only one way to find out.
take your laptop down to the mess hall at 6 RAR, go up to a couple of the lads, identify yourself as gweggary, show them your posts and seek a response.
Take LTYC with you.

get back to us with what kind of reception you recieve  ;) ;)
After Pecca gets threatened he'd be down on his knees trying to lick their balls.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:05pm

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:49pm:

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."



Can you tell us the last time the ADF recruited 13 year olds?


I decided to put google to work.

It seems they they still want to get their hands on the little kiddies:

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitment-centre/can-i-join/age-gender/
I wonder if the ADF supplies the vaseline.



i think theres only one way to find out.
take your laptop down to the mess hall at 6 RAR, go up to a couple of the lads, identify yourself as gweggary, show them your posts and seek a response.
Take LTYC with you.

get back to us with what kind of reception you recieve  ;) ;)
After Pecca gets threatened he'd be down on his knees trying to lick their balls.


Why on Earth would I confront a bunch or rapists and child molesters who carry guns?

Are you off your meds, Mr Perry?


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:03pm

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "


Sick

"A DAMNING report on sexual abuse in the Australian military has found that rapists who were never prosecuted are
probably still occupying senior positions in the forces.

"Releasing the report - which includes a ''plausible'' and graphic account of the gang rape of a 13-year-old boy - Defence Minister Stephen Smith said the allegations of abuse in the forces ''will shock some people''. "

Sick

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:09pm

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 7:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:49pm:

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."



Can you tell us the last time the ADF recruited 13 year olds?


I decided to put google to work.

It seems they they still want to get their hands on the little kiddies:

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitment-centre/can-i-join/age-gender/
I wonder if the ADF supplies the vaseline.



i think theres only one way to find out.
take your laptop down to the mess hall at 6 RAR, go up to a couple of the lads, identify yourself as gweggary, show them your posts and seek a response.
Take LTYC with you.

get back to us with what kind of reception you recieve  ;) ;)
After Pecca gets threatened he'd be down on his knees trying to lick their balls.

I dont think hed have to be threatened.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:12pm

An awful lot of people supporting ADF child molesters in this thread.

I wonder why.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by The Grappler on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:17pm
This entire conversation is out of line and out of order.  Over-emphasis on minority issues of sexual issues does not reflect the vast majority of Service people.... I'm half way to signing up again myself at age 66 - to fill the gap.... might not be humping them hills, but I can stil organise and stuff.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:18pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:17pm:
This entire conversation is out of line and out of order. 


Not at all.

Child rapists should be exposed at every opportunity.

Why is it that so many people in this forum excuse their behaviour, as long as they are in the ADF?


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:20pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:17pm:
This entire conversation is out of line and out of order.  

of course it is.  Interesting to see greggary display all this faux outrage though, certainly is one for drama queening.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:21pm

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:20pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:17pm:
This entire conversation is out of line and out of order.  

of course it is. 


Not at all.

Child rapists should be exposed at every opportunity.

Why is it that so many people in this forum excuse their behaviour, as long as they are in the ADF?

Why do you support them, ian?


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by John Smith on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:22pm

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:30pm:
The usual anti Australian scum are posting again. How predictable. I wish they'd ship off somewhere else.


why don't you send your kids of to join?

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by ian on Jan 31st, 2016 at 9:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:21pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:20pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:17pm:
This entire conversation is out of line and out of order.  

of course it is. 


Not at all.

Child rapists should be exposed at every opportunity.

Why is it that so many people in this forum excuse their behaviour, as long as they are in the ADF?

Why do you support them, ian?
None of my posts support or condone pedophilia or abuse of any kind. If you have evidence otherwise then show it or stand a liar.   I dont need faux outrage on an internet forum with complete strangers to prop up my ego. I had you pegged a long time ago as a  flamboyant drama queen only in it for the attention you get, my opinion of you hasnt changed.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by lee on Jan 31st, 2016 at 9:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:49pm:
I decided to put google to work.

It seems they they still want to get their hands on the little kiddies:

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitment-centre/can-i-join/age-gender/



Yes, you just decided to truncate the answer.

'From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force by joining the Australian Defence Force Cadets. In the Cadets you'll develop leadership, team-building and survival skills while having great fun.'

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitment-centre/can-i-join/age-gender/

Are you trying out for the cadets Gweggy? Or Cadet Training Officer?

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by double plus good on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:05pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:22pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:30pm:
The usual anti Australian scum are posting again. How predictable. I wish they'd ship off somewhere else.


why don't you send your kids of to join?
Only after you go and hang your miserable slumlord ass.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by mothra on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:08pm

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:22pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:30pm:
The usual anti Australian scum are posting again. How predictable. I wish they'd ship off somewhere else.


why don't you send your kids of to join?
Only after you go and hang your miserable slumlord ass.



Do you often fantasise about men hanging their arses?

Easy access?

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by John Smith on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:13pm

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:22pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:30pm:
The usual anti Australian scum are posting again. How predictable. I wish they'd ship off somewhere else.


why don't you send your kids of to join?
Only after you go and hang your miserable slumlord ass.


so you don't want to send your kids? but someone else saying 'no one wants to send their kids to fight someone else's war' is UnAustralian?

you are either confused, or an idiot.


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1st, 2016 at 12:23am

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 9:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:21pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:20pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:17pm:
This entire conversation is out of line and out of order.  

of course it is. 


Not at all.

Child rapists should be exposed at every opportunity.

Why is it that so many people in this forum excuse their behaviour, as long as they are in the ADF?

Why do you support them, ian?
None of my posts support or condone pedophilia or abuse of any kind. If you have evidence otherwise then show it or stand a liar.   I dont need faux outrage on an internet forum with complete strangers to prop up my ego. I had you pegged a long time ago as a  flamboyant drama queen only in it for the attention you get, my opinion of you hasnt changed.


Why do you condone paedophilia in the ADF?

Family history?


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1st, 2016 at 12:24am

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 9:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:49pm:
I decided to put google to work.

It seems they they still want to get their hands on the little kiddies:

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitment-centre/can-i-join/age-gender/



Yes, you just decided to truncate the answer.

'From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force by joining the Australian Defence Force Cadets. In the Cadets you'll develop leadership, team-building and survival skills while having great fun.'

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitment-centre/can-i-join/age-gender/

Are you trying out for the cadets Gweggy? Or Cadet Training Officer?


Why do you condone child sex abuse in the ADF?

Family history?

Vested interest?


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by aquascoot on Feb 1st, 2016 at 6:40am

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:08pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:22pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:30pm:
The usual anti Australian scum are posting again. How predictable. I wish they'd ship off somewhere else.


why don't you send your kids of to join?
Only after you go and hang your miserable slumlord ass.



Do you often fantasise about men hanging their arses?

Easy access?



i find it interesting that the intellectual lefties seem to revert to accusations of homosexuality everytime they are really trying to deliver a spiteful and cutting remark.
everytime gweg or yourself are backed into a corner, you think the most hateful thing you can say is to accuse the "other" of being gay.

gregs posts are absolutely littered with put downs implying people are gay. Why does greg think it is "so awful" and "so insulting" to label someone as homosexual ??

this would have been the accepted norm in an all boys private school in 1965.

have lefties really not grown up since then.

i actually think its because they have no "emotional mastery' and just blather out anything.

like an animal coming from a position of low consciousness

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by aquascoot on Feb 1st, 2016 at 6:48am

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 9:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:21pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:20pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:17pm:
This entire conversation is out of line and out of order.  

of course it is. 


Not at all.

Child rapists should be exposed at every opportunity.

Why is it that so many people in this forum excuse their behaviour, as long as they are in the ADF?

Why do you support them, ian?
None of my posts support or condone pedophilia or abuse of any kind. If you have evidence otherwise then show it or stand a liar.   I dont need faux outrage on an internet forum with complete strangers to prop up my ego. I had you pegged a long time ago as a  flamboyant drama queen only in it for the attention you get, my opinion of you hasnt changed.



yes, that appears to be the dynamic.
the ego has a hold on people and is always trying to strengthen this grip.
with rich people it might be playing the message "get more money, get a bigger car"

But the ego doesnt really care where its power comes from.

The ego is only scared that you will see through it and see that it (and yourself to a certain extent) are really not that important.

so gwegs ego is feeling frail.

to his ego, it feels like "he doesnt exist"
he should embrace this as part of the journey to enlightenment.

but the ego wont have a bar of it.

it is desperate to feel "significant"

the ego doesnt really mind too much how it gets the information that it is important....attention is all it craves.

it just wants to know that there is "something" feeding it.

a useful exercise for gweg would be to sit on a chair in a room with no music, computer, tv, or other source of stimulation. try and sit there for 6 hours.

his ego would go nuts (actually most peoples would).
he would be craving that little shot of dopamine that he gets everytime he gets a response that "proves his existence"

actually i'm giving him one now  :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by John Smith on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:27am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 6:40am:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:08pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:22pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:30pm:
The usual anti Australian scum are posting again. How predictable. I wish they'd ship off somewhere else.


why don't you send your kids of to join?
Only after you go and hang your miserable slumlord ass.



Do you often fantasise about men hanging their arses?

Easy access?



i find it interesting that the intellectual lefties seem to revert to accusations of homosexuality everytime they are really trying to deliver a spiteful and cutting remark.
everytime gweg or yourself are backed into a corner, you think the most hateful thing you can say is to accuse the "other" of being gay.

gregs posts are absolutely littered with put downs implying people are gay. Why does greg think it is "so awful" and "so insulting" to label someone as homosexual ??

this would have been the accepted norm in an all boys private school in 1965.

have lefties really not grown up since then.

i actually think its because they have no "emotional mastery' and just blather out anything.

like an animal coming from a position of low consciousness


I find it interesting that your criticism bypassed comments from righties that we're equally as devoid of 'emotional mastery'  ...... perhaps you're not as much a master of your emotions as you like to think you are!  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:31am

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

Link

"A DAMNING report on sexual abuse in the Australian military has found that rapists who were never prosecuted are
probably still occupying senior positions in the forces.

"Releasing the report - which includes a ''plausible'' and graphic account of the gang rape of a 13-year-old boy - Defence Minister Stephen Smith said the allegations of abuse in the forces ''will shock some people''. "

Link

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by aquascoot on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:40am

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 6:40am:

mothra wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:08pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 8:22pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:30pm:
The usual anti Australian scum are posting again. How predictable. I wish they'd ship off somewhere else.


why don't you send your kids of to join?
Only after you go and hang your miserable slumlord ass.



Do you often fantasise about men hanging their arses?

Easy access?



i find it interesting that the intellectual lefties seem to revert to accusations of homosexuality everytime they are really trying to deliver a spiteful and cutting remark.
everytime gweg or yourself are backed into a corner, you think the most hateful thing you can say is to accuse the "other" of being gay.

gregs posts are absolutely littered with put downs implying people are gay. Why does greg think it is "so awful" and "so insulting" to label someone as homosexual ??

this would have been the accepted norm in an all boys private school in 1965.

have lefties really not grown up since then.

i actually think its because they have no "emotional mastery' and just blather out anything.

like an animal coming from a position of low consciousness


I find it interesting that your criticism bypassed comments from righties that we're equally as devoid of 'emotional mastery'  ...... perhaps you're not as much a master of your emotions as you like to think you are!  ;D ;D ;D


I call upon righties to not engage with gweg or mothra when they are in "low consciousness"

Gweg and mothra often are in a state of very high anxiety and have lost control of their emotions.

This is a common state that some horses find themselves in. Its usually the result of poor parenting.


Lets say we have a horse or a child that is "out of control" throwing a bad tantrum, anything but calm.
bad parents , bad teachers, bad trainers will feel anxious about this state and try to immediately calm it.
they will pat the out of control horse, (there , there...calm down, have a carrot),  they will try to sooth the out of control child (there, there calm down, have a lolly).
All they are doing is rewarding and strengthening this "uncontrolled emotional state"

if a horse or a child is "out of control" it will get no reward from me BUT NEITHER WILL I ABUSE IT.

you simply have to remain mindful that this creature is operating on a level of low consciousness, recognise the disorder it has and try to retrain it.

This is what i am attempting to do with the likes of gweg and mothra.
there is no emotion to it.
there is detachment , mindfulness and a recognition that their mind is suffering and , with correct training, they may be able to get their mind back on track.

this will be difficult.....if you have been reinforced for bad behaviour, negative raw emotions, drama queen activity and attention seeking for many years , it may take many years of grinding it out to get them back.

But successful people are always very persistent.

i urge all righties to be persistent and firm with the lefties but do not resort to abuse as it just shows that you, as a rightie, have descended to their level of emotional turmoil.
This is not the way of the superior man  ;) ;)

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:57am
I am hereby requesting lip service patriots Aquascoot, ian, double plus good and innocentbystander, bigol64, and Gnads to put their money where their mouth is and join the ADF to defend Australia against whatever.

Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by lee on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:02am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 12:24am:
Why do you condone child sex abuse in the ADF?

Family history?

Vested interest?



Please show where I have condoned anything in the ADF? All I did was expose your deliberate distortion of what was on the website.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by bwood1946 on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:03am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:57am:
I am hereby requesting lip service patriots Aquascoot, ian, double plus good and innocentbystander, bigol64, and Gnads to put their money where their mouth is and join the ADF to defend Australia against whatever.

Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........



Bit late there BONG BOY  ! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:08am

lee wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:02am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 12:24am:
Why do you condone child sex abuse in the ADF?

Family history?

Vested interest?



Please show where I have condoned anything in the ADF? All I did was expose your deliberate distortion of what was on the website.


No distortion at all.

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "


Word for word.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by double plus good on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:15am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:57am:
I am hereby requesting lip service patriots Aquascoot, ian, double plus good and innocentbystander, bigol64, and Gnads to put their money where their mouth is and join the ADF to defend Australia against whatever.

Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........
We request you piss off back to the craphole you came from.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:38am

double plus good wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:15am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:57am:
I am hereby requesting lip service patriots Aquascoot, ian, double plus good and innocentbystander, bigol64, and Gnads to put their money where their mouth is and join the ADF to defend Australia against whatever.

Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........
We request you piss off back to the craphole you came from.


Back to where I am from? Australia?

Double plus good can't put up so it should shut up. Double plus good rejected by the military as a disgusting byproduct of inhumanity.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by lee on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:47am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:08am:
No distortion at all.

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

Word for word.



Truncated, cut short. Gives the false impression that kids that young can sign up to the ADF. Cadets is not the ADF numbnuts.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:53am

lee wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:08am:
No distortion at all.

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

Word for word.



Truncated, cut short. Gives the false impression that kids that young can sign up to the ADF. Cadets is not the ADF numbnuts.


Do they get to kill someone before they turn 13?

All the lip service patriots have been complaining about ISIS using children when ADF is recruiting children.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:57am

lee wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:08am:
No distortion at all.

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

Word for word.



Truncated, cut short. Gives the false impression that kids that young can sign up to the ADF. Cadets is not the ADF numbnuts.


"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "


Word for word.

And I provided the link as well, so that those interested could read the entire thing.

They like to groom them young.



Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1st, 2016 at 11:00am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:53am:

lee wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 10:08am:
No distortion at all.

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

Word for word.



Truncated, cut short. Gives the false impression that kids that young can sign up to the ADF. Cadets is not the ADF numbnuts.


Do they get to kill someone before they turn 13?

All the lip service patriots have been complaining about ISIS using children when ADF is recruiting children.


And raping them.

"Gang rape, sexual harassment and bullying of Australian Defence Force members are cited in more than 100 compensation claims for abuse".

"ADF handling child sex abuse claims".

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-20/gang-rape-sexual-harassment-bullying-among-claims-against-adf/7100088



Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Feb 1st, 2016 at 1:04pm
Its a network of perverts running the ADF. Now they are attacking the victim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1AVGBeH1w0


Quote:
Defence hit by wave of compensation claims after abuse culture revealed

Army chief's scathing warning
Then-chief of army David Morrison sends a stern warning to Australia's armed forces regarding unacceptable behaviour in June 2013.

More than 100 compensation claims for sexual and physical abuse stretching back more than half a century have been lodged against the Department of Defence, as it grapples with millions of dollars in legal claims the government says pose a potential fiscal risk.

A lawyer handling many of the abuse claims has warned more may yet emerge, and says some victims are seeking more than $1 million in compensation.

Figures obtained by Fairfax Media show the abuse cases form part of about 300 claims the Defence Department faces. The broader claims relate to abuse, personal injury, damage caused by "defective administration" and statutory compensation.

The Defence department has confirmed there are 105 claims for compensation following alleged sexual or physical abuse occurring as far back as 1963.
The Defence department has confirmed there are 105 claims for compensation following alleged sexual or physical abuse occurring as far back as 1963. Photo: Glenn Campbell
In the government's mid-year economic fiscal outlook last month, it categorised the defence claims as "risks" that may affect the fiscal outlook.

The department confirmed there are 105 claims for compensation following alleged sexual or physical abuse occurring as far back as 1963.

The Australian Defence Force has a history of reported abuse, harassment and other unsavoury incidents in its ranks – often involving training establishments or junior members.

They involve repeated, serious, physical and sexual assaults including gang rape, ongoing sexual harassment and serious workplace bullying – incidents which have had devastating, life-long effects on some victims.

In 2011, the Australian Defence Force Academy's Skype scandal, in which a young woman was secretly filmed while having sex with a fellow cadet, prompted public outrage and forced the ADF to embark on a range of reforms.

Shine Lawyers partner Adair Donaldson said based on the Defence Department's figure of 105 claims, his firm was acting for the majority of complainants.

He said compensation claims ranged from about $75,000 to more than $1 million. In extreme cases, he said victims suffered profound psychological effects and relationship issues, and could not work.

"I suspect there will be more [complainants who] come forward and I'd hope … the ADF continues to handle them with a collaborative approach," he said.

The ADF has been criticised for its handling of abuse claims, however, Mr Donaldson said its recent, more sensitive approach had been "a breath of fresh air".

Mr Donaldson declined to estimate how many more claims might emerge. However, in late 2014, the government's Defence Abuse Taskforce said it had assessed 2224 cases raising plausible allegations of abuse, involving more than 1650 complainants.

It is thought many other victims did not come forward to the taskforce.

Australia Defence Association executive director Neil James said not all plausible claims would turn out to be valid and not all victims would seek financial compensation - some would simply seek acknowledgment that they were hurt, and an apology.

While the Commonwealth liability "could be big", this should be seen in the context of the large Defence workforce and the long period of time covered by the claims, he said.

In a statement, the Defence Department said it was "committed to effective cultural reform to build on the substantial progress achieved in recent years through the Pathway to Change strategy".

The department confirmed 89 claims relate to loss, injury or damage caused by the use of so-called Defence Practice Areas – exclusion zones where military exercises are conducted.

The department has identified a further 19 instances of liabilities worth $25 million relating to possible obligations arising from past events.

The ADF is facing legal action over its historic use of fire-fighting foams, chemicals from which have been found in nearby surface water, groundwater and fish.

The Commonwealth may also be liable after thousands of servicemen and women became seriously ill after exposure to toxic jet fuel, and former ADF members suffered severe side-effects from an anti-malarial drug, including psychological harm, suicidal thoughts and hallucinations.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/defence-hit-by-wave-of-compensation-claims-after-abuse-culture-revealed-20160118-gm85w0.html#ixzz3yshWQFFm

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by John Smith on Feb 1st, 2016 at 1:06pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:40am:
I call upon righties to not engage with gweg or mothra when they are in "low consciousness"


it's a bit late for excuses.  The fact that you are now attempting to make excuses for it proves it even more.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by aquascoot on Feb 1st, 2016 at 1:42pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 1:06pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:40am:
I call upon righties to not engage with gweg or mothra when they are in "low consciousness"


it's a bit late for excuses.  The fact that you are now attempting to make excuses for it proves it even more.


now now John.
I am never abusive of gweg and his fellow beta males.
I am firm but fair.
I am assertive but not aggressive.
I am confident but not arrogant.
We see the world not as it is, but as we are  ;)

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Gnads on Feb 1st, 2016 at 2:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:49pm:

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."



Can you tell us the last time the ADF recruited 13 year olds?


I decided to put google to work.

It seems they they still want to get their hands on the little kiddies:

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitment-centre/can-i-join/age-gender/

I wonder if the ADF supplies the vaseline.


Ever heard of school Cadets? ::)

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Gnads on Feb 1st, 2016 at 2:51pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:57am:
I am hereby requesting lip service patriots Aquascoot, ian, double plus good and innocentbystander, bigol64, and Gnads to put their money where their mouth is and join the ADF to defend Australia against whatever.

Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........


I'm 60 yrs old ... what a challenge ::)

If you're going to continue to speak through your backside

at least stand on your head so it gives the perception you're the right way up

even though you'll still be speaking shyte

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1st, 2016 at 2:52pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 2:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 6:49pm:

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 12:45pm:
Sometimes children.

"The details of a report into the Defence Force have revealed a horrific history of physical and sexual abuse that continues to this day."

"Hundreds of stories poured into the review held by law firm DLA Piper - from acts of ritual bastardisation to horrifying tales of brutal sexual assault against children as young as 13."



Can you tell us the last time the ADF recruited 13 year olds?


I decided to put google to work.

It seems they they still want to get their hands on the little kiddies:

"If you are over 10 years of age register your details with Defence Jobs to receive information about the careers available in the ADF."

"From 12 years and 6 months old you can experience what it is like in the Navy, Army or Air Force ... "

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitment-centre/can-i-join/age-gender/

I wonder if the ADF supplies the vaseline.


Ever heard of school Cadets?


Yes.

Did you have a point?

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Feb 1st, 2016 at 3:03pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:57am:
I am hereby requesting lip service patriots Aquascoot, ian, double plus good and innocentbystander, bigol64, and Gnads to put their money where their mouth is and join the ADF to defend Australia against whatever.

Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........


I'm 60 yrs old ... what a challenge ::)

If you're going to continue to speak through your backside

at least stand on your head so it gives the perception you're the right way up

even though you'll still be speaking shyte


That is pathetic Gnads. You could at least carry the esky to the battlefront and manage the porno library for the lads.

Gnads, you are so full of excuses there is no room for shi t.

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by John Smith on Feb 1st, 2016 at 5:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 1:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 1:06pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:40am:
I call upon righties to not engage with gweg or mothra when they are in "low consciousness"


it's a bit late for excuses.  The fact that you are now attempting to make excuses for it proves it even more.


now now John.
I am never abusive of gweg and his fellow beta males.
I am firm but fair.
I am assertive but not aggressive.
I am confident but not arrogant.
We see the world not as it is, but as we are  ;)



is that an attempt to change the subject? you were talking about 'emotional mastery' .

You attacking the left over the right is acting 'emotionally' ... if you were really a 'master' of your emotions, you would criticise the 'act' without trying to take cheap shots at those you deem to be from the left. You trying to win one over the 'other guys' is acting emotionally. 

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Gnads on Feb 1st, 2016 at 5:11pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 3:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:57am:
I am hereby requesting lip service patriots Aquascoot, ian, double plus good and innocentbystander, bigol64, and Gnads to put their money where their mouth is and join the ADF to defend Australia against whatever.

Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........ Lip service patriots; put up or shut up! ........


I'm 60 yrs old ... what a challenge ::)

If you're going to continue to speak through your backside

at least stand on your head so it gives the perception you're the right way up

even though you'll still be speaking shyte


That is pathetic Gnads. You could at least carry the esky to the battlefront and manage the porno library for the lads.

Gnads, you are so full of excuses there is no room for shi t.


No second prizes big mouth

why don't you ante up to the recruitment office?

I'm sure you have about the right level of intelligence to dig latrines

once you had a hole dug deep enough it would be indeterminable as to whether or not it was already full of shyte. 

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by aquascoot on Feb 1st, 2016 at 5:15pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 5:02pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 1:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 1:06pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:40am:
I call upon righties to not engage with gweg or mothra when they are in "low consciousness"


it's a bit late for excuses.  The fact that you are now attempting to make excuses for it proves it even more.


now now John.
I am never abusive of gweg and his fellow beta males.
I am firm but fair.
I am assertive but not aggressive.
I am confident but not arrogant.
We see the world not as it is, but as we are  ;)



is that an attempt to change the subject? you were talking about 'emotional mastery' .

You attacking the left over the right is acting 'emotionally' ... if you were really a 'master' of your emotions, you would criticise the 'act' without trying to take cheap shots at those you deem to be from the left. You trying to win one over the 'other guys' is acting emotionally. 



there is some truth to what you say John.
It shall be the subject of tonights meditation.
i do not support rightards who are into the accumulation of assets and money to prop up their egos.
However, i will say this...

How you react to other people is the best indicator of how deeply you know yourself. This is particularly true when challenges and obstacles arise.
I belive that the rightard has a better general philosophy about challenges and obstacles.....seeing them as opportunities for personal growth.
I believe the leftard sees them from a complaining and whining philosophical framework.
By embracing challenge and problems , the correct thinking rightard, transforms his life , is "present" to the "journey" and lives in the "now".

I think rugged individulaism is probably a better term for the philosophy i would try to instil in my family and "tribe"

embrace a challenge, never complain, be positive.

You are right though, that many on here who identify as rightards , do much complaining and are generally negative.

They have let their egos be strengthened by a raised feeling of "other".

This is not the path of the superior man. ;) ;)

Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by John Smith on Feb 1st, 2016 at 8:11pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 5:15pm:
there is some truth to what you say John.
It shall be the subject of tonights meditatio



uhhhmmmmmmm


Title: Re: ADF on the ropes. No takers for ADF jobs
Post by Laugh till you cry on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:16pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 5:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 5:02pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 1:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 1:06pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2016 at 9:40am:
I call upon righties to not engage with gweg or mothra when they are in "low consciousness"


it's a bit late for excuses.  The fact that you are now attempting to make excuses for it proves it even more.


now now John.
I am never abusive of gweg and his fellow beta males.
I am firm but fair.
I am assertive but not aggressive.
I am confident but not arrogant.
We see the world not as it is, but as we are  ;)



is that an attempt to change the subject? you were talking about 'emotional mastery' .

You attacking the left over the right is acting 'emotionally' ... if you were really a 'master' of your emotions, you would criticise the 'act' without trying to take cheap shots at those you deem to be from the left. You trying to win one over the 'other guys' is acting emotionally. 



there is some truth to what you say John.
It shall be the subject of tonights meditation.
i do not support rightards who are into the accumulation of assets and money to prop up their egos.
However, i will say this...

How you react to other people is the best indicator of how deeply you know yourself. This is particularly true when challenges and obstacles arise.
I belive that the rightard has a better general philosophy about challenges and obstacles.....seeing them as opportunities for personal growth.
I believe the leftard sees them from a complaining and whining philosophical framework.
By embracing challenge and problems , the correct thinking rightard, transforms his life , is "present" to the "journey" and lives in the "now".

I think rugged individulaism is probably a better term for the philosophy i would try to instil in my family and "tribe"

embrace a challenge, never complain, be positive.

You are right though, that many on here who identify as rightards , do much complaining and are generally negative.

They have let their egos be strengthened by a raised feeling of "other".

This is not the path of the superior man. ;) ;)


Aquascoot's blatherings exemplify the onset of dementia.

Aquascoot did not embrace the challenge to volunteer for the ADF. Is that too alpha for Aquascoot?

Aquascoot is  just another lip service patriot whose imagination is bigger than his capabilities.

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