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Title: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by bogarde73 on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:46pm

Let me tell you the worst thing about the climate change scam. It’s not the lies, not bullying, not the perversion of the scientific method, not the establishment cover-ups, not the needless scaremongering, not the wasted money, not the nannying overregulation, not the destroyed wildlife and ruined countryside, not the stymied economic growth — bad though all these things are. No one what really sticks in the craw is that the people making money out of it are the scum of the earth. . . . . .

If you build a giant trough, the pigs will come. And they have. (No insult to real pigs, by the way. Bacon! Mmm) . . . .

Rajendra Pachauri, the bearded, yogic railway engineer with wandering hands who, largely because he fitted the right ethnic profile, managed to parlay his way into heading the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, jetting round the world for a succession of climatological shindigs in exotic locations, as well as making a tidy bit on the side thanks to his TERI research institute.

Al Gore, the climate huckster who was worth less than $2 million when he failed to become US president, but has since made another $300 million with anti-carbon investment hype, benefiting from regulations that he helped create.

Jagadish Shukla, a George Mason University climate professor with a rare aptitude for snaffling millions of dollars in taxpayer funded grants but rather less of a skill — you suspect — when it comes to producing research of any damn use to anyone.

You get the idea. Climate change is a racket — a make work scheme created by and for “the Clerisy” (all those overeducated, undertalented middle-class wasters with crappy degrees in non-subjects like ecology, climatology, sociology, environmental sciences, environmental law, sustainability, and the rest) . . . . . .

And we’re not talking a cottage industry, here, remember. $1.5 trillion a year is a serious amount of money. It’s the same, approximately, as the value of the entire global online shopping industry. . . . . . .

How do we get our revenge?

Have a look at this website http://coolfuturesfundsmanagement.com/. . . .

Basically their plan is to set up a hedge fund whose raison d’être is to bet against the ‘climate consensus’: instead of global warming, they’re expecting the planet to cool; instead of renewables being our energy future, they’re betting on the subsidies drying up and the whole industry collapsing; instead of fossil fuels being left in the ground as “stranded assets”, they’re expecting them to go on satisfying the world’s energy needs for many generations to come. That’s why they’re called the Cool Futures Fund.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/28/2882423/

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:49pm

So was there any science disproving climate change?

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 3:29pm

2015 was the hottest year on record. Climate change is real.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by Redneck on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 3:33pm

Bogie has the sh1ts!

He was a bit slow on investing and invested in coal!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by lee on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:22pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 3:29pm:

2015 was the hottest year on record.

Not according to NOAA.

1997 global average temperature '62.45 degrees Fahrenheit'

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/199713

2015 ' the average global temperature across land and ocean surface areas for 2015 was 0.90°C (1.62°F) above the 20th century average of 13.9°C (57.0°F)'

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

1.62F + 57.0F = 58.62F

I'll let you do the rest of the math.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by cods on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:25pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:49pm:

So was there any science disproving climate change?

I dont know about you guys..

but I dont go by science..

I use commonsense..

when I found out the planet was/is billions of years old... had been through more spells of climate than we will ever experience in one life time..

iceage floods tempest.dinosaurs..fire famine..

you name it.. this planet has seen it..

I then realised there is a bigger force than man will ever be.. guiding this ship through the universe..

I cant speak for you and I hope and trust I dont call you names for believing what you do...

I do try to clean up my thinking and in that was maybe contribute to cleaning up our planet..which is in dire need of some TLC...

but kill it.. drown it... turn it into an arid unlivable dessert.... NO MATE...

we have neither the power nor the brains...

Mother Nature.. thats what I call this POWER FORCE..

is having a laugh!

as for the MONEY.. I have said all along..

climate change is one HUGE SCAM...

I am not laughing at it though...it will go into the billions and it will not make an iota of differnce

just feed the corruption that is alive and well..

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:34pm

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:25pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:49pm:

So was there any science disproving climate change?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D---> "I DON'T GO BY SCIENCE BUT...."

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by lee on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:38pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:34pm:

"I DON'T GO BY SCIENCE BUT...."

You trust implicitly in NOAA.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:47pm

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:38pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:34pm:

"I DON'T GO BY SCIENCE BUT...."

You trust implicitly in NOAA.

You trust implicitly in a 24 hour society that ships seafood to a different country to get it's shells taken off and then shipped back as externality is never priced.

Go Jevons Paradox and the faux-conservatives inability to understand the concept of diminishing returns.

Yay, I wish I voted Liberal and smirked my way into a cookie cutter McMansion and pretended I was an unrepeatable success ::) ::) !

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by GordyL on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:53pm

There are actually many compelling reasons to move to renewable energy.

Probably the biggest is pollution from both coal and oil. Burning fossil fuel is nasty horrible shyte.

One of my favourite reasons is I'd like the world to
stop sending bucket loads of money to the filthy arabs for their oil. I'd like all cars to be run on lecky asap.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by lee on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:01pm

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

I'd like all cars to be run on lecky asap.

Good luck getting Perth-Sydney.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by GordyL on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:05pm

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

I'd like all cars to be run on lecky asap.

Good luck getting Perth-Sydney.

Well for most people who do 100km or less a day.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by lee on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:15pm

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

Well for most people who do 100km or less a day.

So back to fossil fuel then.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by mariacostel on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:00pm

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

I'd like all cars to be run on lecky asap.

Good luck getting Perth-Sydney.

Well for most people who do 100km or less a day.

Most people also occasionally do a lot more. What point is a car that will NEVER do more, especially when it costs three times as much and can do so much less?

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:03pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

I'd like all cars to be run on lecky asap.

Good luck getting Perth-Sydney.

Well for most people who do 100km or less a day.

Most people also occasionally do a lot more. What point is a car that will NEVER do more, especially when it costs three times as much and can do so much less?

Remember ye olde brick sized mobile phone: how much did they cost again?

The concept is called economies of scale and we all know you avoid it like the plague :o :o :o

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by cods on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:04pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:34pm:

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:25pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:49pm:

So was there any science disproving climate change?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D---> "I DON'T GO BY SCIENCE BUT...."

oh look its the mad lefty... what science are you wrapped in???

is it the Frankenstein type .. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:04pm

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:15pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

Well for most people who do 100km or less a day.

So back to fossil fuel then.

---------> check out the logic ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:05pm

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:34pm:

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:25pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:49pm:

So was there any science disproving climate change?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D---> "I DON'T GO BY SCIENCE BUT...."

oh look its the mad lefty... what science are you wrapped in???

is it the Frankenstein type .. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

cods can't compete again ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by lee on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 10:04pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

---------> check out the logic

Yeah, I'm waiting for solar powered heavy transport across the Nullarbor. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 11:12pm

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:22pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 3:29pm:

2015 was the hottest year on record.

Your web site for 1997 shows +0.42C above 20th century average.

Note the NCDC/NOAA disclaimer: "Please note: the estimate for the baseline global temperature used in this study differed, and was warmer than, the baseline estimate (Jones et al., 1999) used currently. This report has been superseded by subsequent analyses. However, as with all climate monitoring reports, it is left online as it was written at the time."

Bad attempt at trickeryby denier lee:

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by mariacostel on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 1:52pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

I'd like all cars to be run on lecky asap.

Good luck getting Perth-Sydney.

Well for most people who do 100km or less a day.

Most people also occasionally do a lot more. What point is a car that will NEVER do more, especially when it costs three times as much and can do so much less?

Remember ye olde brick sized mobile phone: how much did they cost again?

The concept is called economies of scale and we all know you avoid it like the plague :o :o :o

Economies of scale wont make and EV travel 600kms on a charge and take 15mins to recharge.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by Karnal on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 2:16pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 1:52pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

I'd like all cars to be run on lecky asap.

Good luck getting Perth-Sydney.

Well for most people who do 100km or less a day.

Most people also occasionally do a lot more. What point is a car that will NEVER do more, especially when it costs three times as much and can do so much less?

Remember ye olde brick sized mobile phone: how much did they cost again?

The concept is called economies of scale and we all know you avoid it like the plague :o :o :o

Economies of scale wont make and EV travel 600kms on a charge and take 15mins to recharge.

No dear, they’ll just make service stations swap your empty battery for a charged one, the way you fill your empty Camry with petrol.

Incredible, isn’t it? Back in the day, they had places you could fill your horse up with hay. Economies of scale tend to do these things.

I believe Longy has a sum on it.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by GordyL on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 4:13pm

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 2:16pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 1:52pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

I'd like all cars to be run on lecky asap.

Good luck getting Perth-Sydney.

Well for most people who do 100km or less a day.

Most people also occasionally do a lot more. What point is a car that will NEVER do more, especially when it costs three times as much and can do so much less?

Remember ye olde brick sized mobile phone: how much did they cost again?

The concept is called economies of scale and we all know you avoid it like the plague :o :o :o

Economies of scale wont make and EV travel 600kms on a charge and take 15mins to recharge.

How does this even effect us urbane inner city types who generally toodle around town doing less than 100km a day?
We're by FAR the majority of motoer Ve-Hicle users in Australia.

On the odd occasion I need to pop up to the Hunter for some wine or Bowral for a bit of Polo I can walk 50 meters to the Goget Pruis.

Sorry for all the fringe dwelling proletarians who need to commute 500km a day, but your opinion doesn't matter.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by Redneck on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 4:17pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:34pm:

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:25pm:

[quote author=Pastafarian link=1454042781/1#1 date=1454042957]So was there any science disproving climate change?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D---> "I DON'T GO BY SCIENCE BUT...."

Says it all really, cods knows more than the majority of scientists of the world

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by Redneck on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 4:22pm

GordyL wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 4:13pm:

On the odd occasion I need to pop up to the Hunter for some wine or Bowral for a bit of Polo I can walk 50 meters to the Goget Pruis.

Is that similar to a Prius?

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by lee on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 4:45pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 11:12pm:

And of course you didn't see the claim of 62.45ºF?

The global baseline temperature differed. So that makes your anomalies different.

Then again Jones uses a lot of the "data" of Briffa and Mann. Mann's work has been seriously debunked.

Briffa? A new paper 'Uncertainties in tree-ring-based climate reconstructions probed'

Authors - ' Dr Matthew Schofield of Otago's Department of Mathematics and Statistics. His co-authors on the paper are departmental colleague Professor Richard Barker, Professor Andrew Gelman of Columbia University, Director of the Tree Ring Lab at Columbia Professor Ed Cook, and Emeritus Professor Keith Briffa of the University of East Anglia, UK.'

Conclusions - 'They found that competing models fit the Scots Pine data equally well but still led to substantially different predictions of historical temperature due to the differing assumptions underlying each model.

While the periods of relatively warmer and cooler temperatures were robust between models, the magnitude of the resulting temperatures was highly dependent on the model being used.

This suggests that there is less certainty than implied by a reconstruction developed using any one set of assumptions.'

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/01/160127101524.htm

The question then becomes how certain are we of the conclusions reached by Jones?

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:13pm

I have a Herculean task for you lee darling. Prove the following temperature charts are wrong:

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by lee on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:15pm

Why should I bother. I have no trust in NOAA.

Yours is a mere appeal to authority. Try thinking for yourself.

Where's 1997?

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by Karnal on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:20pm

GordyL wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 4:13pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 2:16pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 1:52pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

I'd like all cars to be run on lecky asap.

Good luck getting Perth-Sydney.

Well for most people who do 100km or less a day.

Most people also occasionally do a lot more. What point is a car that will NEVER do more, especially when it costs three times as much and can do so much less?

Remember ye olde brick sized mobile phone: how much did they cost again?

The concept is called economies of scale and we all know you avoid it like the plague :o :o :o

Economies of scale wont make and EV travel 600kms on a charge and take 15mins to recharge.

How does this even effect us urbane inner city types who generally toodle around town doing less than 100km a day?
We're by FAR the majority of motoer Ve-Hicle users in Australia.

Very true. I ride a bike. I don't ride more than 60ks a day.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by lee on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:20pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:13pm:

have a Herculean task for you lee darling. Prove the following temperature charts are wrong:

BTW have you read the report?

Even NOAA admit -

'The warmth was due to the near-record strong El Niño that developed during the Northern Hemisphere spring in the eastern and central equatorial Pacific Ocean and to large regions of record warm and much warmer-than-average sea surface temperatures in parts of every major ocean basin.'

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

El Nino - El Naturale ;)

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:27pm

lee wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:20pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:13pm:

have a Herculean task for you lee darling. Prove the following temperature charts are wrong:

Your favorite year 1997 was also a strong El Nino.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by lee on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:32pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

Your favorite year 1997 was also a strong El Nino.

Actually it was across two years 1997 and 1998. But hey, I never said it wasn't an El Nino year.

So what exactly was the point?

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:37pm

lee wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:32pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

Your favorite year 1997 was also a strong El Nino.

Actually it was across two years 1997 and 1998. But hey, I never said it wasn't an El Nino year.

So what exactly was the point?

Current El Nino spans 2015-2016 and 2016 is trending to be hotter than 2015.

My point was your example year 1997 was also an El Nino year so you can't claim different conditions for 2015.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by lee on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:46pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:37pm:

Current El Nino spans 2015-2016 and 2016 is trending to be hotter than 2015.

My point was your example year 1997 was also an El Nino year so you can't claim different conditions for 2015.

You're claiming a trend over 30 days, out of a year? I know what the pundits are predicting, but if you look at Sea Surface Temperatures, they don't seem to agree.

You can't claim different conditions for different El Ninos? What happened to 2006-07 and 2009-10? Both were multiple El Nino years.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by mariacostel on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 7:35pm

GordyL wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 4:13pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 2:16pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 1:52pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

I'd like all cars to be run on lecky asap.

Good luck getting Perth-Sydney.

Well for most people who do 100km or less a day.

Most people also occasionally do a lot more. What point is a car that will NEVER do more, especially when it costs three times as much and can do so much less?

Remember ye olde brick sized mobile phone: how much did they cost again?

The concept is called economies of scale and we all know you avoid it like the plague :o :o :o

Economies of scale wont make and EV travel 600kms on a charge and take 15mins to recharge.

The point you dismiss so easily is that the comparison between EVs and petrol cars leaves EVs looking pretty bad. The fact they cost less to run is their sole advantage, but the disadvantages are many. They cost 2-3 times as much. Their range is extremely limited and recharge times are long. Petrol cars can cross the country virtually nonstop with just 10mins stops for fuel. EVs simply cant. There is simply too much they cannot do when compared to petrol cars which is of course, why 99.5% of people buy petrol cars.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by GordyL on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 8:34pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 7:35pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 4:13pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 2:16pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 1:52pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

GordyL wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

I'd like all cars to be run on lecky asap.

Good luck getting Perth-Sydney.

Well for most people who do 100km or less a day.

Most people also occasionally do a lot more. What point is a car that will NEVER do more, especially when it costs three times as much and can do so much less?

Remember ye olde brick sized mobile phone: how much did they cost again?

The concept is called economies of scale and we all know you avoid it like the plague :o :o :o

Economies of scale wont make and EV travel 600kms on a charge and take 15mins to recharge.

The cars are getting cheaper, the range is getting better.

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 6:01pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 7:35pm:

Cost curves will eventually include external factors such as war.

:o :o :o

Ever heard of social liscence ?

Disinvestment was the word, and the word was good ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Are we not all stakeholders??

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 6:05pm

lee wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 5:15pm:

Why should I bother. I have no trust in NOAA.

Yours is a mere appeal to authority. Try thinking for yourself.

Where's 1997?

You don't have to trust them: i will even give you permission to wear silly costumes and stay indoors whilst smoking a crack pipe and pretending to eat pizza every now and again ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 6:08pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 4:17pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:34pm:

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 4:25pm:

[quote author=Pastafarian link=1454042781/1#1 date=1454042957]So was there any science disproving climate change?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D---> "I DON'T GO BY SCIENCE BUT...."

Says it all really, cods knows more than the majority of scientists of the world

...except for the ones she needs every now and again :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 6:12pm

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 10:04pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

---------> check out the logic

Yeah, I'm waiting for solar powered heavy transport across the Nullarbor. ;D ;D ;D

Lol, are you seriously trying to say trucks are needed to cross the desert?

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :-?

Title: Re: Sticking it to the Greenies
Post by lee on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:25pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 6:12pm:

Lol, are you seriously trying to say trucks are needed to cross the desert?

Trucks, Trains Aeroplanes, Ships are needed to move goods across the country. Which ones are you going to fuel with solar. Unless of course you want electric trains. ;D ;D ;D