Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where.
Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully.

You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs!

Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies!
Where do you get it? The ALP!
Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares!

I think people have been bitten once too often don't you?

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:40am:

Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you?

They must have learnt from Howard.

Are you referring to Labor's $40 billion extra for education?

The money will come from the magic pudding cooked at every election -

just like Turnbull's alternative to the NBN -
nothing happened.

Of courseeee, when it came to tax cuts for $50 a year better off per individual boges was all over it, jumping for joy.  When it comes to funding the education of our next generations, boges gets all upset.

Typical right wing mania.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:49am:

Of courseeee, when it came to tax cuts for $50 a year better off per individual boges was all over it, jumping for joy.  When it comes to funding the education of our next generations, boges gets all upset. Typical right wing mania.

The 2 party system is there to give the illusion of choice -

the fact is you don't have any choice  -

both parties will tell lies to get voted in & then not represent you or anything they've promised.

It's fixed - the table is tilted - the game is rigged.

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:40am:

Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you?

dont take a bit of notice of anything shortarse pledges...... he knows he wont win..

this is exactly what  they did at the last election....

knowinbg they wont get back they made that many wild promises started a heap of REALLY REALLY EXPENSIVE .. doooooooooooo.s... like NDIS and GONSKI... and the Libs fell for it all..

lets face it... they knew they would never have to find it all?????>..


this is shortarse playing the only ticket hes got..and the left will fall for it... they dont care where the money comes from...

I wonder if anyone told shorty the Chinese are not buying our Bonds anymore....I think they hav e run out of cash as well.. serves them right for doing business with Palmer..

dont get fooled like the rest of them... the pot is empty sensible people in this country knows that....

I cant wait to see him in a TV debate with Mal..my money is on Mal even though he wont get my vote.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:44am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:40am: Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you? They must have learnt from Howard.

Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:40am:

Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you?

That's a poor attempt at satire. Compared to Howard's freebies, these guys are still on L plates.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:39am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:44am: bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:40am: Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you? They must have learnt from Howard. Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D

No, he just sold everything. Trouble is we're still handing the freebies out today long after there's nothing left to sell off.

crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:43am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:44am: bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:40am: Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you? They must have learnt from Howard. Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D No, he just sold everything. Trouble is we're still handing the freebies out today long after there's nothing left to sell off.

he sold off decaying monuments.....take a look at Telstra shares.....

public assets are meant to be sold off in times of need... the govt owns just about every stick in the country its just the towers we build on them..

get real.. when times are good the govt buys... when times are tough... they sell..

just like you and I do..

check out cash converters..

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:39am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:44am: bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:40am: Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you? They must have learnt from Howard. Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D

Do you hand out freebies to your kids, knowing full well they'll never accept having to return the freebies if your income dries? 
That's what Howard did.  Spend like an imbecile in an overheated economy.  Why? Because he was, and is, an imbecile.

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:47am:

crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:43am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:44am: bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:40am: Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you? They must have learnt from Howard. Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D No, he just sold everything. Trouble is we're still handing the freebies out today long after there's nothing left to sell off. he sold off decaying monuments.....take a look at Telstra shares..... public assets are meant to be sold off in times of need... the govt owns just about every stick in the country its just the towers we build on them.. get real.. when times are good the govt buys... when times are tough... they sell.. just like you and I do.. check out cash converters..

Cods, there is not much of a problem with selling assets that are not useful for government. The problems arise when the sale proceeds are used to fund recurrent expenses. Especially when it is political suicide to start removing the freebies once the cash runs out.

crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:02am:

cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:47am: crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:43am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:44am: bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:40am: Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you? They must have learnt from Howard. Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D No, he just sold everything. Trouble is we're still handing the freebies out today long after there's nothing left to sell off. he sold off decaying monuments.....take a look at Telstra shares..... public assets are meant to be sold off in times of need... the govt owns just about every stick in the country its just the towers we build on them.. get real.. when times are good the govt buys... when times are tough... they sell.. just like you and I do.. check out cash converters.. Cods, there is not much of a problem with selling assets that are not useful for government. The problems arise when the sale proceeds are used to fund recurrent expenses. Especially when it is political suicide to start removing the freebies once the cash runs out.

he sold it to pay off KEATINGS MASSIVE DEBT....

that is why.....

and he didnt leave labor a MASSIVE DEBT>>>

for goodness sakes give some credit where its due..

what freebees got to do with anything?>????...

I dont get any so I havent a clue what you are on about.

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:18am:

crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:02am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:47am: crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:43am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:44am: bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:40am: Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you? They must have learnt from Howard. Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D No, he just sold everything. Trouble is we're still handing the freebies out today long after there's nothing left to sell off. he sold off decaying monuments.....take a look at Telstra shares..... public assets are meant to be sold off in times of need... the govt owns just about every stick in the country its just the towers we build on them.. get real.. when times are good the govt buys... when times are tough... they sell.. just like you and I do.. check out cash converters.. Cods, there is not much of a problem with selling assets that are not useful for government. The problems arise when the sale proceeds are used to fund recurrent expenses. Especially when it is political suicide to start removing the freebies once the cash runs out. he sold it to pay off KEATINGS MASSIVE DEBT.... that is why..... and he didnt leave labor a MASSIVE DEBT>>> for goodness sakes give some credit where its due.. what freebees got to do with anything?>????... I dont get any so I havent a clue what you are on about.

Funny you say that. Keatings' debt is a pittance compared to Rudd'd debt.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:20am:

cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:18am: crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:02am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:47am: crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:43am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:44am: bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:40am: Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you? They must have learnt from Howard. Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D No, he just sold everything. Trouble is we're still handing the freebies out today long after there's nothing left to sell off. he sold off decaying monuments.....take a look at Telstra shares..... public assets are meant to be sold off in times of need... the govt owns just about every stick in the country its just the towers we build on them.. get real.. when times are good the govt buys... when times are tough... they sell.. just like you and I do.. check out cash converters.. Cods, there is not much of a problem with selling assets that are not useful for government. The problems arise when the sale proceeds are used to fund recurrent expenses. Especially when it is political suicide to start removing the freebies once the cash runs out. he sold it to pay off KEATINGS MASSIVE DEBT.... that is why..... and he didnt leave labor a MASSIVE DEBT>>> for goodness sakes give some credit where its due.. what freebees got to do with anything?>????... I dont get any so I havent a clue what you are on about. Funny you say that. Keatings' debt is a pittance compared to Rudd'd debt.

I think you mean Tony's debt.

The Coalition agreed to fund Gonski before the election....A unity ticket with Labor Abbott called it....Now when the Coalition are found to be full of bullshit the faithful excuse their lies and back flips because they are just as deceitful and underhanded as the party they support....Take a look at yourselves before condemning others for taking the Coalition on their word!!!

>:( >:( >:(

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:35am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:40am: Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you? dont take a bit of notice of anything shortarse pledges...... he knows he wont win.. this is exactly what  they did at the last election.... knowinbg they wont get back they made that many wild promises started a heap of REALLY REALLY EXPENSIVE .. doooooooooooo.s... like NDIS and GONSKI... and the Libs fell for it all.. lets face it... they knew they would never have to find it all?????>.. this is shortarse playing the only ticket hes got..and the left will fall for it... they dont care where the money comes from... I wonder if anyone told shorty the Chinese are not buying our Bonds anymore....I think they hav e run out of cash as well.. serves them right for doing business with Palmer.. dont get fooled like the rest of them... the pot is empty sensible people in this country knows that.... I cant wait to see him in a TV debate with Mal..my money is on Mal even though he wont get my vote.

Cods comedy skit for today. ;D ;D ;D

libs are hillarious

spending billions to pay companies not to pollute is good
spending billions on education is bad


ya bunch of knobs

We can easily fund Education & Health.

Instead of baby boomers only paying 15% tax on money invested into super they can pay 20 or even 25%.

They still get their "I've paid tax for years" special discount.

And seeing as they cost the most on the health side they actually are living their mantra of "User Pays"

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:26am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:20am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:18am: crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:02am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:47am: crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:43am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:44am: bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:40am: Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you? They must have learnt from Howard. Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D No, he just sold everything. Trouble is we're still handing the freebies out today long after there's nothing left to sell off. he sold off decaying monuments.....take a look at Telstra shares..... public assets are meant to be sold off in times of need... the govt owns just about every stick in the country its just the towers we build on them.. get real.. when times are good the govt buys... when times are tough... they sell.. just like you and I do.. check out cash converters.. Cods, there is not much of a problem with selling assets that are not useful for government. The problems arise when the sale proceeds are used to fund recurrent expenses. Especially when it is political suicide to start removing the freebies once the cash runs out. he sold it to pay off KEATINGS MASSIVE DEBT.... that is why..... and he didnt leave labor a MASSIVE DEBT>>> for goodness sakes give some credit where its due.. what freebees got to do with anything?>????... I dont get any so I havent a clue what you are on about. Funny you say that. Keatings' debt is a pittance compared to Rudd'd debt. I think you mean Tony's debt.

No, Tony inherited Rudd's debt.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:39am:

Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D

Howards spending is locked in. We are still borrowing money to pay for them you idiot

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:42am:

libs are hillarious spending billions to pay companies not to pollute is good spending billions on education is bad ya bunch of knobs

Just how is a business supposed to fund improvements in clean technology investment if they're being double-taxed by government? Where do they get the money to buy cleaner technology? Coal power has become vastly cleaner over time and how did that occur? It wasn't by government taxing them - it was by businesses investing in cleaner technology. The market is the best way of introducing change, not government. You're the biggest knob of them all.

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:43am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:39am: Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D Howards spending is locked in. We are still borrowing money to pay for them you nice person

Ahh, that stupid old argument, eh? So why didn't Labor do something about Howards' spending? It's not like they didn't have the time and the means. You're an idiot.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:47am:

Just how is a business supposed to fund improvements in clean technology investment if they're being double-taxed by government

double taxed?  ;D ;D ;D paying additional tax for polluting is not double tax.
and they can fund it the same way everyone else does. Are you allowed to dump your rubbish on the street? does the govt. pay you to use the garbage bin?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:48am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:43am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:39am: Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D Howards spending is locked in. We are still borrowing money to pay for them you nice person Ahh, that stupid old argument, eh? So why didn't Labor do something about Howards' spending? It's not like they didn't have the time and the means. You're an nice person.

because every time they tried you cried little a little girl.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:43am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:26am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:20am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:18am: crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:02am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:47am: crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:43am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:44am: bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:40am: Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you? They must have learnt from Howard. Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D No, he just sold everything. Trouble is we're still handing the freebies out today long after there's nothing left to sell off. he sold off decaying monuments.....take a look at Telstra shares..... public assets are meant to be sold off in times of need... the govt owns just about every stick in the country its just the towers we build on them.. get real.. when times are good the govt buys... when times are tough... they sell.. just like you and I do.. check out cash converters.. Cods, there is not much of a problem with selling assets that are not useful for government. The problems arise when the sale proceeds are used to fund recurrent expenses. Especially when it is political suicide to start removing the freebies once the cash runs out. he sold it to pay off KEATINGS MASSIVE DEBT.... that is why..... and he didnt leave labor a MASSIVE DEBT>>> for goodness sakes give some credit where its due.. what freebees got to do with anything?>????... I dont get any so I havent a clue what you are on about. Funny you say that. Keatings' debt is a pittance compared to Rudd'd debt. I think you mean Tony's debt. No, Tony inherited Rudd's debt.

And doubled it.

macman wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:39am:

cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:35am: bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:40am: Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you? dont take a bit of notice of anything shortarse pledges...... he knows he wont win.. this is exactly what  they did at the last election.... knowinbg they wont get back they made that many wild promises started a heap of REALLY REALLY EXPENSIVE .. doooooooooooo.s... like NDIS and GONSKI... and the Libs fell for it all.. lets face it... they knew they would never have to find it all?????>.. this is shortarse playing the only ticket hes got..and the left will fall for it... they dont care where the money comes from... I wonder if anyone told shorty the Chinese are not buying our Bonds anymore....I think they hav e run out of cash as well.. serves them right for doing business with Palmer.. dont get fooled like the rest of them... the pot is empty sensible people in this country knows that.... I cant wait to see him in a TV debate with Mal..my money is on Mal even though he wont get my vote. Cods comedy skit for today. ;D ;D ;D

Yet Abbott promised a completely inequitable PPL scheme even after he screwed the vulnerable in our society in his first budget....No condemnation of Abbott's reckless spending Cods???

:-? :-? :-?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:55am:

And doubled it.

armpit was hoping you wouldn't notice that :D :D

I guess Labor can always use the LNP's excuse!

"The economy was in far worse condition than was revealed before the election!"

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:15am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:55am: And doubled it. armpit was hoping you wouldn't notice that :D :D

And yet he is a noted mathematician!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:15am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:55am: And doubled it. armpit was hoping you wouldn't notice that :D :D And yet he is a noted mathematician!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

i thought that was longy ... armpit a mathematician? he can't even open a door without instructions :D :D :D

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:18am:

crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:02am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:47am: crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:43am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:44am: bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:40am: Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you? They must have learnt from Howard. Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D No, he just sold everything. Trouble is we're still handing the freebies out today long after there's nothing left to sell off. he sold off decaying monuments.....take a look at Telstra shares..... public assets are meant to be sold off in times of need... the govt owns just about every stick in the country its just the towers we build on them.. get real.. when times are good the govt buys... when times are tough... they sell.. just like you and I do.. check out cash converters.. Cods, there is not much of a problem with selling assets that are not useful for government. The problems arise when the sale proceeds are used to fund recurrent expenses. Especially when it is political suicide to start removing the freebies once the cash runs out. he sold it to pay off KEATINGS MASSIVE DEBT.... that is why..... The running debt when Keating left office was $96 billion or 19% of GDP at the time. Calling it massive is ridiculous. and he didnt leave labor a MASSIVE DEBT>>> No he didn't. He did leave some serious expenditures that need to be met with funding only from the national budget. These will inflict pain on following governments for years to come. Any mug can sell off assets and jack up taxes to keep the federal budget in the black. Unfortunately, the world economy is not strong at the present time. A deficit is entirely appropriate at this time. Raising taxes now would be a drain on growth. Treasury understands this. Managed debt is not and never has been a problem in this nation. for goodness sakes give some credit where its due.. The title of the thread is "Hey Big Spender". If you want me to give due credit to Howard then start a thread with some of his notable achievements and I will happily oblige. If you want me to sing praises for the litany of election bribes and giveaways you'll grow very old waiting. Indeed a rather black period of wanton waste with profound lessons for following administrations. what freebees got to do with anything?>????... Quite a lot. We're still paying for them long after the cash has dried up. I dont get any so I havent a clue what you are on about. I don't know your personal circumstances but for starters think Private health rebate, Child care subsidisation and concessions to CGT. The list is actually rather long and not all instigated by Howard but the costs of supporting them in a recurrent way keeps growing while income can't keep up at the same rate.

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:19am: John Smith wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:15am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:55am: And doubled it. armpit was hoping you wouldn't notice that :D :D And yet he is a noted mathematician!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D i thought that was longy ... armpit a mathematician? he can't even open a door without instructions :D :D :D

My error but a dope is a dope however you dress him up!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:20am:

cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:18am: crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:02am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:47am: crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:43am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:44am: bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:40am: Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where. Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully. You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs! Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies! Where do you get it? The ALP! Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares! I think people have been bitten once too often don't you? They must have learnt from Howard. Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D No, he just sold everything. Trouble is we're still handing the freebies out today long after there's nothing left to sell off. he sold off decaying monuments.....take a look at Telstra shares..... public assets are meant to be sold off in times of need... the govt owns just about every stick in the country its just the towers we build on them.. get real.. when times are good the govt buys... when times are tough... they sell.. just like you and I do.. check out cash converters.. Cods, there is not much of a problem with selling assets that are not useful for government. The problems arise when the sale proceeds are used to fund recurrent expenses. Especially when it is political suicide to start removing the freebies once the cash runs out. he sold it to pay off KEATINGS MASSIVE DEBT.... that is why..... and he didnt leave labor a MASSIVE DEBT>>> for goodness sakes give some credit where its due.. what freebees got to do with anything?>????... I dont get any so I havent a clue what you are on about. Funny you say that. Keatings' debt is a pittance compared to Rudd'd debt.

That's not quite true. Armie, you are falling for the same trap that you always do. Comparing 1996 to 2013 is not so smart. Compare it to the size of the economy.

1996 = 19% GDP
2013 = 9% GDP

And their timing is great isn't it.
Along they come with their fist full of other people's dollars just when the Treasury head warns that the credit rating is at risk without expenditure cuts.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:48am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:43am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:39am: Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D Howards spending is locked in. We are still borrowing money to pay for them you nice person Ahh, that stupid old argument, eh? So why didn't Labor do something about Howards' spending? It's not like they didn't have the time and the means. You're an nice person.

I can just see the next party leaders running on an election platform of
removing the private health rebate, removing child care subsidies and doubling CGT. An electoral death wish. That's why we are still paying for them.

crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

The running debt when Keating left office was $96 billion or 19% of GDP at the time. Calling it massive is ridicul

it was BACK THEN MATE.... it was the biggest in our HISTORY>..

only beaten by krudd and Co..

you must  not do history especially when its Labors.. >:(


  [u]
crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

Quite a lot. We're still paying for them long after the cash has dried u

I would stilllike the list of freebees you are talking about



crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

I don't know your personal circumstances but for starters think Private health rebate, Child care subsidisation and concessions to CGT. The list is actually rather long and not all instigated by Howard but the costs of supporting them in a recurrent way keeps growing while income can't keep up at the same rate.

look mate its your mob that keep handing out vote catchers...like free computers to every child..

free this free that paid maternity leave... no wait make that paid parental leave..

and so on and so on... and once you start they never stop wanting more..

like I have already said.. Abbott wanted people to pay $7 a doctors visit...and pay a nominal sum to go to emergency.......the scream were better than a lion park massacre...

I am sorry but its a given theta things costs will never ever stop GOING UP....

just where do you think the money comes from????...you are now fighting putting up the GST...which is the one tax we all pay...we all eat and have to put a roof over our heads...I dont smoke or drink..or gamble so I dont pay those extra taxes but I do buy food and household things.. and carry insurance and pay rates  so I do pay GST....and I am happy to do so..

because I want this country to have a decent way of life....and I realise money doesnt come from fresh air...

How to catch a leftie in your headlights - ask him where the money's coming from.

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:40am:

crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:24am: The running debt when Keating left office was $96 billion or 19% of GDP at the time. Calling it massive is ridicul it was BACK THEN MATE.... it was the biggest in our HISTORY>.. only beaten by krudd and Co.. you must  not do history especially when its Labors.. >:(   [u] crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:24am: Quite a lot. We're still paying for them long after the cash has dried u I would stilllike the list of freebees you are talking about crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:24am: I don't know your personal circumstances but for starters think Private health rebate, Child care subsidisation and concessions to CGT. The list is actually rather long and not all instigated by Howard but the costs of supporting them in a recurrent way keeps growing while income can't keep up at the same rate. look mate its your mob that keep handing out vote catchers...like free computers to every child.. free this free that paid maternity leave... no wait make that paid parental leave.. and so on and so on... and once you start they never stop wanting more.. like I have already said.. Abbott wanted people to pay $7 a doctors visit...and pay a nominal sum to go to emergency.......the scream were better than a lion park massacre... I am sorry but its a given theta things costs will never ever stop GOING UP.... just where do you think the money comes from????...you are now fighting putting up the GST...which is the one tax we all pay...we all eat and have to put a roof over our heads...I dont smoke or drink..or gamble so I dont pay those extra taxes but I do buy food and household things.. and carry insurance and pay rates  so I do pay GST....and I am happy to do so.. because I want this country to have a decent way of life....and I realise money doesnt come from fresh air...

Calling the ALP "My mob" is a mistake. They've come in for plenty of stick from me on this board.

You're the one who needs the history lesson. 2013 debt is less than half 1996. Highest debt was 1948 at 125%

http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Aust_govt_debt_historical.jpg

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:55am:

How to catch a leftie in your headlights - ask him where the money's coming from.

dont be silly ....remember gillard and everything is costed....

I am sure swanny will tell them where his magic pudding is... as I said I dont CHina is still buying aussie bonds is it???>.. ::) ::) ::) ::)

maybe swanny has two magic money making puds.

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:35am:

dont take a bit of notice of anything shortarse pledges...... he knows he wont win.. this is exactly what  they did at the last election....

http://res.cloudinary.com/hrzmfbxmz/image/upload/v1396836094/abbott-broken-promises_i1jrel.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:35am: dont take a bit of notice of anything shortarse pledges...... he knows he wont win.. this is exactly what  they did at the last election.... http://res.cloudinary.com/hrzmfbxmz/image/upload/v1396836094/abbott-broken-promises_i1jrel.jpg

yes BUT YOU DONT SAY WHY

oh thats right your not interested in why are you??


only FACEBOOK tells the truth ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://independentaustralia.net/_lib/slir/w900-h600/https://independentaustralia.net/i/article/img/article-7722-hero.jpg

crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:33am:

That's not quite true. Armie, you are falling for the same trap that you always do. Comparing 1996 to 2013 is not so smart. Compare it to the size of the economy. 1996 = 19% GDP 2013 = 9% GDP

2016 = 26%


Quote:

As a result, at 25.9 per cent of GDP, spending in 2015-16 is forecast to be close to the post-GFC peak, and could have been higher were it not for the measures taken by the government in the mid-year budget update. Mr Fraser said the recent savings made by the Turnbull government are helping a little - Australia's payments-to-GDP ratio is now projected to decline over the next four years to 25.3 per cent by 2018-19, he said. "But government spending will not get below 25 per cent at any time over the next decade," he warned. Read more:http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/treasury-secretary-john-fraser-australia-has-a-spending-and-a-revenue-problem-20160128-gmgj11.html#ixzz3yaP733nR

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:55am:

How to catch a leftie in your headlights - ask him where the money's coming from.

And yet I told you how over an hour ago


Quote:

Instead of baby boomers only paying 15% tax on money invested into super they can pay 20 or even 25%.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:50am:

https://independentaustralia.net/_lib/slir/w900-h600/https://independentaustralia.net/i/article/img/article-7722-hero.jpg

Tells it all, cant deny that cods!

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 9:45am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:35am: dont take a bit of notice of anything shortarse pledges...... he knows he wont win.. this is exactly what  they did at the last election.... http://res.cloudinary.com/hrzmfbxmz/image/upload/v1396836094/abbott-broken-promises_i1jrel.jpg yes BUT YOU DONT SAY WHY oh thats right your not interested in why are you?? only FACEBOOK tells the truth ;D ;D ;D ;D

Go on then tell us why, this should be good  :)

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 9:50am: https://independentaustralia.net/_lib/slir/w900-h600/https://independentaustralia.net/i/article/img/article-7722-hero.jpg Tells it all, cant deny that cods!

https://independentaustralia.net/_lib/slir/w900-h600/https://independentaustralia.net/i/article/img/article-7722-hero.jpg

http://www.yourdemocracy.net.au/drupal/files/images/the%20three%20liarsABBOTT640.jpg

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:48am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:43am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:39am: Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug!  ;D ;D ;D Howards spending is locked in. We are still borrowing money to pay for them you nice person Ahh, that stupid old argument, eh? So why didn't Labor do something about Howards' spending? It's not like they didn't have the time and the means. You're an nice person.

While in minority govt against Libs’ fullthroated opposition Gillard and Swan:

• Removed the Baby Bonus

• Means tested the private health care rebate

• Made the first moves to cut the outrageous super tax exemptions

That is a pretty good start. After they win the election later this year (and they will, Libs are a bumbling, leaderless, divided and incompetent rabble) they will cut much more of the Howardista waste out of the Budget.

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 9:45am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:35am: dont take a bit of notice of anything shortarse pledges...... he knows he wont win.. this is exactly what  they did at the last election.... http://res.cloudinary.com/hrzmfbxmz/image/upload/v1396836094/abbott-broken-promises_i1jrel.jpg yes BUT YOU DONT SAY WHY oh thats right your not interested in why are you?? only FACEBOOK tells the truth ;D ;D ;D ;D

Link please cods

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:52am:

crocodile wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:33am: That's not quite true. Armie, you are falling for the same trap that you always do. Comparing 1996 to 2013 is not so smart. Compare it to the size of the economy. 1996 = 19% GDP 2013 = 9% GDP 2016 = 26% Quote: As a result, at 25.9 per cent of GDP, spending in 2015-16 is forecast to be close to the post-GFC peak, and could have been higher were it not for the measures taken by the government in the mid-year budget update. Mr Fraser said the recent savings made by the Turnbull government are helping a little - Australia's payments-to-GDP ratio is now projected to decline over the next four years to 25.3 per cent by 2018-19, he said. "But government spending will not get below 25 per cent at any time over the next decade," he warned. Read more:http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/treasury-secretary-john-fraser-australia-has-a-spending-and-a-revenue-problem-20160128-gmgj11.html#ixzz3yaP733nR bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:55am: How to catch a leftie in your headlights - ask him where the money's coming from. And yet I told you how over an hour ago [quote]Instead of baby boomers only paying 15% tax on money invested into super they can pay 20 or even 25%.

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The 25.9% figure is the current years spending to GDP. That's not the same thing as debt. Net debt is the accumulated year on year deficits minus the year on year incomes.

Malcolm, wise man that he is, has distinguished the govt from the profligate Big Spenders, saying he won't run a "fistfull of dollars" election campaign in this tight economic climate.

Part of Shorten’s statement on gonski funding:


Quote:

This funding will be offset, over the forward estimates and the medium-term, by existing improvements to the Budget proposed by Labor including making multinational companies pay their fair share of tax reforms to the taxation of multinational entities, reducing superannuation tax concessions for millionaires, increasing the changes to tobacco excise, ceasing the Emissions Reduction Fund, and not proceeding with the Liberals’ new Baby Bonus

http://www.laborsplanforeducation.com.au/labors_plan#better-trained-teachers

Spending at 26% of GDP and Bogan reckons Labor are the big spenders?

New Baby Bonus, WTFlip?

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 10:08am:

cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 9:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 9:45am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:35am: dont take a bit of notice of anything shortarse pledges...... he knows he wont win.. this is exactly what  they did at the last election.... http://res.cloudinary.com/hrzmfbxmz/image/upload/v1396836094/abbott-broken-promises_i1jrel.jpg yes BUT YOU DONT SAY WHY oh thats right your not interested in why are you?? only FACEBOOK tells the truth ;D ;D ;D ;D Link please cods

I dont do facebook politics red you will have to ask gweggy...he is 100% behind facebook.. and getup..

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:22pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 10:08am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 9:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 9:45am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:35am: dont take a bit of notice of anything shortarse pledges...... he knows he wont win.. this is exactly what  they did at the last election.... http://res.cloudinary.com/hrzmfbxmz/image/upload/v1396836094/abbott-broken-promises_i1jrel.jpg yes BUT YOU DONT SAY WHY oh thats right your not interested in why are you?? only FACEBOOK tells the truth ;D ;D ;D ;D Link please cods I dont do facebook politics red you will have to ask gweggy...he is 100% behind facebook.. and getup..

So what do you know about Facebook that allows you to quote its failings.

Am I missing something cods?

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 12:27pm:

Malcolm, wise man that he is, has distinguished the govt from the profligate Big Spenders, saying he won't run a "fistfull of dollars" election campaign in this tight economic climate.

;D ;D ;D

and you believe that? He's a student of Howard , he'll be spending with the best of them

The MTM was going to be faster, cheaper and sooner too.

Just lies.

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:05pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 12:27pm: Malcolm, wise man that he is, has distinguished the govt from the profligate Big Spenders, saying he won't run a "fistfull of dollars" election campaign in this tight economic climate. ;D ;D ;D and you believe that? He's a student of Howard , he'll be spending with the best of them

Would I lie to you John?

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 6:53am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:05pm: bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 12:27pm: Malcolm, wise man that he is, has distinguished the govt from the profligate Big Spenders, saying he won't run a "fistfull of dollars" election campaign in this tight economic climate. ;D ;D ;D and you believe that? He's a student of Howard , he'll be spending with the best of them Would I lie to you John?

you? who knows, but the question you should ask yourself is would Turncoat lie to you?

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:29pm:

cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:22pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 10:08am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 9:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 9:45am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:35am: dont take a bit of notice of anything shortarse pledges...... he knows he wont win.. this is exactly what  they did at the last election.... http://res.cloudinary.com/hrzmfbxmz/image/upload/v1396836094/abbott-broken-promises_i1jrel.jpg yes BUT YOU DONT SAY WHY oh thats right your not interested in why are you?? only FACEBOOK tells the truth ;D ;D ;D ;D Link please cods I dont do facebook politics red you will have to ask gweggy...he is 100% behind facebook.. and getup.. So what do you know about Facebook that allows you to quote its failings. Am I missing something cods?

as usual red.. YES..

its not me that quotes FACEBOOK


its GWEGGY..hes a true follower..

cods wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 7:38am:

its not me that quotes FACEBOOK its GWEGGY..hes a true follower..

can you show me one of gregs facebook quotes?

cods wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 7:38am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:29pm: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:22pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 10:08am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 9:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 9:45am: cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:35am: dont take a bit of notice of anything shortarse pledges...... he knows he wont win.. this is exactly what  they did at the last election.... http://res.cloudinary.com/hrzmfbxmz/image/upload/v1396836094/abbott-broken-promises_i1jrel.jpg yes BUT YOU DONT SAY WHY oh thats right your not interested in why are you?? only FACEBOOK tells the truth ;D ;D ;D ;D Link please cods I dont do facebook politics red you will have to ask gweggy...he is 100% behind facebook.. and getup.. So what do you know about Facebook that allows you to quote its failings. Am I missing something cods? as usual red.. YES.. its not me that quotes FACEBOOK its GWEGGY..hes a true follower..

OIC Silly me!   ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 7:50am:

cods wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 7:38am: its not me that quotes FACEBOOK its GWEGGY..hes a true follower.. can you show me one of gregs facebook quotes?

oh come on ..

believe me I dont tell lies..

he made a comment a while back and I said link please and he gave me facebook..

when asked he said something like.. I get all my info from facebook..

in case you didnt read the facelessmen thread... ::) ::)

you will understand that gweggy lets nothing go ...

wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.... neither do I.

.

cods wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 8:18am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 7:50am: cods wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 7:38am: its not me that quotes FACEBOOK its GWEGGY..hes a true follower.. can you show me one of gregs facebook quotes? oh come on .. believe me I dont tell lies.. he made a comment a while back and I said link please and he gave me facebook.. when asked he said something like.. I get all my info from facebook.. in case you didnt read the facelessmen thread... ::) ::) you will understand that gweggy lets nothing go ... wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.... neither do I.

I'd say Facebook is more reliable than the daily telegraph.

cods wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 8:18am:

believe me I dont tell lies..

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


cods did a funny :D

cods wrote on Jan 30^th, 2016 at 8:18am:

.

Most rational comment from you all year, cods ;).

Jokkkkkes, don't get all upset.  I saw an opportunity for a funny, that is all.