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Message started by Laugh till you cry on Jan 28th, 2016 at 12:44pm

Title: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 28th, 2016 at 12:44pm
Its official.

Human Rights Commission chair Trevor Phillips, who says Muslim communities are fundamentally different from those of other religions and should not be forced to adapt.

https://www.rt.com/uk/330289-muslims-different-race-relations/


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Muslims aren’t like us, ‘disrespectful’ to demand they adapt – ex-equality chief
Published time: 27 Jan, 2016 12:02

Expecting Muslims to simply abandon their culture to suit Britain is “the deepest form of disrespect,” according to former Equality and Human Rights Commission chair Trevor Phillips, who says Muslim communities are fundamentally different from those of other religions.

Speaking at a meeting of the Policy Exchange think tank Monday, Phillips said Britain’s Muslims are a unique community. He said it is important to grasp that people won’t change their view simply because they are repeatedly told to do so.

“Continuously pretending that a group is somehow eventually going to become like the rest of us is perhaps the deepest form of disrespect,” he said.

He warned against preaching to Muslims to conform.

“Because what you are essentially saying is the fact that they behave in a different way, some of which we may not like, is because they haven’t yet seen the light.”

“It may be that they see the world differently from the rest of us,” he added.

Integration, Phillips argued, is a two-way street in which more than one side must adapt to change.

“Part of the integration process is for the rest of us to grasp that people aren’t going to change their views simply because we are constantly telling them that basically they should be like us,” he said.

Phillips’ intervention was criticized Tuesday by the head of Islamophobia watchdog Tell Mama.

Fiyaz Mughal told the Times newspaper: “It assumes that Muslims [as a whole] have views that are inherently different to other communities and that the ‘world view’ of Muslims is different to other communities.”


He said that differences between Muslims and non-Muslims are negligible, bar some religious rituals.

“There are Muslims fully integrated into our society that have a ‘world view’ that is no different to others and the only difference is that they pray five times a day,” Mughal said.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by GordyL on Jan 28th, 2016 at 1:26pm
The thing I just don't understand is there are plenty of other countries to source people from with a much higher chance of integrating.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 28th, 2016 at 1:38pm

GordyL wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 1:26pm:
The thing I just don't understand is there are plenty of other countries to source people from with a much higher chance of integrating.


Cockney barrow boy closet pom genes are compatible with Muslim genes. This is the best source of genetic material for a new age of enlightenment free of the constrictions of closet pom origins.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by cods on Jan 28th, 2016 at 3:27pm
Continuously pretending that a group is somehow eventually going to become like the rest of us is perhaps the deepest form of disrespect,” he said.




I think its disrespectful of them NOT TOO..

why go there??.. why go to another country.. where you dont speak the same language you dont dress the same you dont eat the same...and you have not the slightest inclination to alter any of it..

lets put religion aside....for one moment..lets pretend we all have the same god... ::) ::).

what other purpose do they have to want to live in Britain?....cant be the weather.....

does he expect all British women to cover up??????.....because thats what they will demand.before long.


Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by red baron on Jan 28th, 2016 at 3:31pm
Here's a choice, accept our way of life or get the f....k out of here!

Do Muslim Countries accept Christian practices? I don't think so Tim.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 28th, 2016 at 3:57pm

cods wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 3:27pm:
Continuously pretending that a group is somehow eventually going to become like the rest of us is perhaps the deepest form of disrespect,” he said.

I think its disrespectful of them NOT TOO..

why go there??.. why go to another country.. where you dont speak the same language you dont dress the same you dont eat the same...and you have not the slightest inclination to alter any of it..

lets put religion aside....for one moment..lets pretend we all have the same god... ::) ::).

what other purpose do they have to want to live in Britain?....cant be the weather.....

does he expect all British women to cover up??????.....because thats what they will demand.before long.


Cods darling, Muslims are just following British boat people precedent in occupying Australia. No local customs were complied with at all.

Closet poms are hypocrites in regard to what they demand and what they were prepared to do to in regard to culture.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Honky on Jan 28th, 2016 at 6:09pm
Do you expect me to adapt?

No, Mr Mohammad, I expect you to die.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by freediver on Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:10pm
LTYC, is it "disrespectful" to expect these immigrants to conform to local standards like not beating your wife or sexually assaulting women in the street who are not wearing tents?

Or is it only disrespectful to expect them to eat pork?

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Aussie on Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:17pm

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LTYC, is it "disrespectful" to expect these immigrants to conform to local standards like not beating your wife or sexually assaulting women in the street who are not wearing tents?


What has 'respect' got to do with it?  Everyone in Australia is subject to Australian Law.


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Or is it only disrespectful to expect them to eat pork?



That's way too obscure for me.  You'll have to dumb it down.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by double plus good on Jan 28th, 2016 at 9:17pm
For once, I'm  in total agreement  with you, Laugh. We should just not let  'em in. Simple,  really.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by freediver on Jan 28th, 2016 at 9:44pm
Aussie how many of the middle eastern and north africana who took part in the coordinated sexual assaults across Europe on new years eve have been brought to justice? How many of them do you think fear the law?

How many Australian men do you think only refrain from sexual assault because they are subject to law?

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by issuevoter on Jan 28th, 2016 at 10:16pm
I wonder if the Human Rights commissioner ever considered the rights of all the infidels murdered by Muslims in the last twenty years.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Gnads on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:26pm

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Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt


The very reason they shouldn't be on the list of desirable immigrants.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Agnes on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:46pm
If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?

In fact this  thinking is in fact a form of racism, saying they dont know any better and are not capable of change- so lets make special dispensation for the poor little muzzies. No wonder they are as arrogant and out of control as they are- bleeding hearts making continual excuses for their animalistic behaviour.


Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:35pm

Agnes wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?


Isn't this what the Italians said about the British Aboriginals in AD 43?

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Redneck on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:42pm
Where is Karnal when you need her? him?

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Leftwinger on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:58pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?


Isn't this what the Italians said about the British Aboriginals in AD 43?


Everybody whined when the wogs came in then it was the Asians, you will all get bored and move on to another lot to persecute in time.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Redneck on Jan 29th, 2016 at 4:01pm

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?


Isn't this what the Italians said about the British Aboriginals in AD 43?


Everybody whined when the wogs came in then it was the Asians, you will all get bored and move on to another lot to persecute in time.


Wogs and Asians fitted in and didnt  create home grown terrorists

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by GordyL on Jan 29th, 2016 at 4:12pm

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?


Isn't this what the Italians said about the British Aboriginals in AD 43?


Everybody whined when the wogs came in then it was the Asians, you will all get bored and move on to another lot to persecute in time.


Can you please give me an example of any other migrant group that did anything like the Hyde Park riot?





Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 29th, 2016 at 4:19pm
10% is the magic number  :o :o :o

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Black Orchid on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:06pm

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?


Isn't this what the Italians said about the British Aboriginals in AD 43?


Everybody whined when the wogs came in then it was the Asians, you will all get bored and move on to another lot to persecute in time.


No they didn't.  The 'wogs' went to normal local schools, they mixed with their peers, they worked hard and considered themselves Australians.  They came here for a better life and put an effort in to adjusting.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:07pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 4:19pm:
10% is the magic number  :o :o :o


0 % is a better number

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Karnal on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:09pm

freediver wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:10pm:
LTYC, is it "disrespectful" to expect these immigrants to conform to local standards like not beating your wife or sexually assaulting women in the street who are not wearing tents?

Or is it only disrespectful to expect them to eat pork?


You expect them to eat pork?

Pork them.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Karnal on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:11pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:42pm:
Where is Karnal when you need her? him?


Ban them.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:12pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:07pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 4:19pm:
10% is the magic number  :o :o :o


0 % is a better number

You better get talking to those land developer mates of yours then ay buddy  ;) ;)

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by freediver on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:30pm
LTYC, is it "disrespectful" to expect these immigrants to conform to local standards like not beating your wife or sexually assaulting women in the street who are not wearing tents?

Or is it only disrespectful to expect them to eat pork?

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Aussie on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:37pm

freediver wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
Aussie how many of the middle eastern and north africana who took part in the coordinated sexual assaults across Europe on new years eve have been brought to justice? How many of them do you think fear the law?

How many Australian men do you think only refrain from sexual assault because they are subject to law?


I don't know freediver.  Do you?

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Aussie on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:38pm

freediver wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
LTYC, is it "disrespectful" to expect these immigrants to conform to local standards like not beating your wife or sexually assaulting women in the street who are not wearing tents?

Or is it only disrespectful to expect them to eat pork?


That question (s) has already been asked and dealt with.  It gets no better with the repetition.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Redneck on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:55pm

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:11pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:42pm:
Where is Karnal when you need her? him?


Ban them.


Gone soft have you?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Agnes on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:24pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?


Isn't this what the Italians said about the British Aboriginals in AD 43?


Everybody whined when the wogs came in then it was the Asians, you will all get bored and move on to another lot to persecute in time.


Wogs and Asians fitted in and didnt  create home grown terrorists

  Exactly.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by ian on Jan 29th, 2016 at 10:08pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?


Isn't this what the Italians said about the British Aboriginals in AD 43?


Everybody whined when the wogs came in then it was the Asians, you will all get bored and move on to another lot to persecute in time.


Wogs and Asians fitted in and didnt  create home grown terrorists

yes, big difference between them and these middle easterners isnt there.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by mothra on Jan 29th, 2016 at 10:13pm

ian wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 10:08pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?


Isn't this what the Italians said about the British Aboriginals in AD 43?


Everybody whined when the wogs came in then it was the Asians, you will all get bored and move on to another lot to persecute in time.


Wogs and Asians fitted in and didnt  create home grown terrorists

yes, big difference between them and these middle easterners isnt there.




No. Not really.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by freediver on Jan 29th, 2016 at 10:39pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
Aussie how many of the middle eastern and north africana who took part in the coordinated sexual assaults across Europe on new years eve have been brought to justice? How many of them do you think fear the law?

How many Australian men do you think only refrain from sexual assault because they are subject to law?


I don't know freediver.  Do you?


Do you understand the point I was trying to make that merely being subject to the law is insufficient to maintain a civilised society and that it is quite easy to undermine a society while being subject to its laws?


Aussie wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:38pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
LTYC, is it "disrespectful" to expect these immigrants to conform to local standards like not beating your wife or sexually assaulting women in the street who are not wearing tents?

Or is it only disrespectful to expect them to eat pork?


That question (s) has already been asked and dealt with.  It gets no better with the repetition.


Are you saying your answer explains what LTYC thinks? Or do you think LTYC has answered? Or is your spineless "it's OK because they are subject to law" all that needs to be said on the matter by anyone?

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 29th, 2016 at 11:21pm

freediver wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
LTYC, is it "disrespectful" to expect these immigrants to conform to local standards like not beating your wife or sexually assaulting women in the street who are not wearing tents?

Or is it only disrespectful to expect them to eat pork?


Have they beaten your wife? Is that depriving you of your rights?

Are you inviting them to dinner and wondering what to serve?

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by ian on Jan 30th, 2016 at 1:58am

mothra wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 10:13pm:

ian wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 10:08pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?


Isn't this what the Italians said about the British Aboriginals in AD 43?


Everybody whined when the wogs came in then it was the Asians, you will all get bored and move on to another lot to persecute in time.


Wogs and Asians fitted in and didnt  create home grown terrorists

yes, big difference between them and these middle easterners isnt there.




No. Not really.
youve been blinded by political correctness, you identify with people whose culture is so alien to yours they consider you a non human being.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by mothra on Jan 30th, 2016 at 2:54am

ian wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 1:58am:

mothra wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 10:13pm:

ian wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 10:08pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?


Isn't this what the Italians said about the British Aboriginals in AD 43?


Everybody whined when the wogs came in then it was the Asians, you will all get bored and move on to another lot to persecute in time.


Wogs and Asians fitted in and didnt  create home grown terrorists

yes, big difference between them and these middle easterners isnt there.




No. Not really.
youve been blinded by political correctness, you identify with people whose culture is so alien to yours they consider you a non human being.




No i haven't. And no they don't.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Agnes on Jan 30th, 2016 at 3:05am

... wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 6:09pm:
Do you expect me to adapt?

No, Mr Mohammad, I expect you to die.

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Dnarever on Jan 30th, 2016 at 6:01am
Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt

The commission got this one wrong.

Anyone coming to Australia is expected to adapt, that is not unreasonable.

Anyone who does not want to adapt that is ok too just don't come to Australia.

The vast majority of people coming to Australia adapt just fine, no doubt it can be difficult but time and the next generations takes care of a lot of it sufficiently.

Adapting really does not mean a lot more than getting along with the rest of us, it is necessary.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Dnarever on Jan 30th, 2016 at 6:04am

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?


Isn't this what the Italians said about the British Aboriginals in AD 43?


Everybody whined when the wogs came in then it was the Asians, you will all get bored and move on to another lot to persecute in time.


Very true.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Dnarever on Jan 30th, 2016 at 6:06am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?


Isn't this what the Italians said about the British Aboriginals in AD 43?


Everybody whined when the wogs came in then it was the Asians, you will all get bored and move on to another lot to persecute in time.


Wogs and Asians fitted in and didnt  create home grown terrorists


They brought the Mafia with them people were pretty frightened about it ?

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by freediver on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:41am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 11:21pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
LTYC, is it "disrespectful" to expect these immigrants to conform to local standards like not beating your wife or sexually assaulting women in the street who are not wearing tents?

Or is it only disrespectful to expect them to eat pork?


Have they beaten your wife? Is that depriving you of your rights?

Are you inviting them to dinner and wondering what to serve?


This is your thread LTYC. Are you having trouble understanding what is meant by 'adapting'?

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 30th, 2016 at 12:43pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 6:06am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 4:01pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?


Isn't this what the Italians said about the British Aboriginals in AD 43?


Everybody whined when the wogs came in then it was the Asians, you will all get bored and move on to another lot to persecute in time.


Wogs and Asians fitted in and didnt  create home grown terrorists


They brought the Mafia with them people were pretty frightened about it ?


The closet pom mafia (Freemasons) feared competition and open markets.

Title: Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jan 30th, 2016 at 12:44pm

freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2016 at 9:41am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 11:21pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
LTYC, is it "disrespectful" to expect these immigrants to conform to local standards like not beating your wife or sexually assaulting women in the street who are not wearing tents?

Or is it only disrespectful to expect them to eat pork?


Have they beaten your wife? Is that depriving you of your rights?

Are you inviting them to dinner and wondering what to serve?


This is your thread LTYC. Are you having trouble understanding what is meant by 'adapting'?


Is it compulsory for them to beat your wife and dine with you for their adaption?

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