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General Discussion >> Federal Politics >> New poll shows Libs 55/45 http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1453534393 Message started by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:33pm |
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Title: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:33pm
This is mainly for the Mad Monk who seems to believe the polls for the Coalition are dropping...
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/malcolm-turnbull-extends-huge-lead-over-bill-shorten-in-first-poll-for-2016/ar-BBoyt5g?ocid=spartandhp |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:34pm Smell the fear. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:36pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:34pm:
Yes of course. 55/45 is just so damn close. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:37pm Smell that fear. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:46pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:37pm:
Labor voter fear? Doesnt that smell like burning nappy? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:49pm |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:52pm
Now now, dear, the only poll that counts is the one on erection day. Let's wait until Newspoll. Polling this far from an erection is futile. Only id iots pay attention to the polls. It's too close to call. There's a margin of error. It's a statistical aberration. It's basic year 9 maths.
And the clincher: I could have done a PhD in abstract mathematics, but the professors were all ID IOTS. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:54pm
More like this, you twit.
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:55pm Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:52pm:
You keep saying this, but I have no idea of the reference. I doubt very much you would ever do a PhD. You clearly lack the focus as well as the intelligence to complete such a task. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:58pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:54pm:
Yep Greg , fear alright |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:00pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:55pm:
How could you? Every time Longy shows up, you mysteriously disappear, dear. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:02pm Its time wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:58pm:
Yes, 10 point clear and rising. The stuff of real fear. Currently looking at close to the biggest whitewash in political history. Already have a PM with a higher personal rating than anyone else... ever. Jovial Monk must be wetting himself, assuming he doesnt already do that. Just for monk... man-in-diaper1.jpg (23 KB | 39
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:02pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:55pm:
I know, dear. Nor do I have the focus and intelligence to not do a PhD because the professors are all ID IOTS. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:03pm Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:00pm:
We actually posted together the week before last, a fact you would know if you could take your eyes off perving. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:03pm Its time wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:58pm:
Ain't it just?. And it's a joy to behold. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:11pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:03pm:
I did see that , proves nothing , i could get a sock and log in with a different browser . |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:11pm
There is actually some talk in Liberal ranks about the possibility of a Senate Majority. It is a long shot and would require things to fall our way, but with the level of anti-labor sentiment and so much of it not going to the Greens or other minors, the chance is alive. Certainly, at this rate the next election in 2018 is probably a definite for a senate majority.
Oh, we can smell the fear. It is the fear by labor supporters that they are on their own Titanic head for a disaster of record-breaking proportions. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:12pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:02pm:
That pic was you after QLD longy ;D |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:12pm Its time wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:11pm:
With two geographically distinct IP addresses? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:12pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:03pm:
Well, you are gorgeous, dear. So you finally got to meet Longy, eh? What did you think? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:15pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:11pm:
No doubt about it greg, the fear is strong in this one |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:16pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:12pm:
Who validated that ? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:16pm Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:12pm:
Well he wasnt a pakistani perving troll, so he was well up on you. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by John Smith on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:17pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:03pm:
were you on the desktop and he the laptop or did longie have the desktop and you the laptop? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:17pm Its time wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Don't give up your day job... I know who I am and who I am not (longy, lee, gizmo etc) and if one of the mods bothers to check IP addresses they will doubtless prove it themselves. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:18pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:16pm:
No, seriously, dear. What did you think of him? Did he meet up to your expectations? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:19pm John Smith wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:17pm:
Maria wouldn't know. How could she possibly know about others' IP addresses? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:23pm Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:19pm:
A salient point you obviously made by accident. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:23pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:17pm:
Sure sure :) |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:24pm
I must say, you're keeping rather mum on your observations of Longy, Maria.
Don't want to offend? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:24pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:12pm:
I have three. What's your point? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:25pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:12pm:
Its exactly how you did it isnt it Longy :) |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:29pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:03pm:
Why would you talk to yourself online, longie? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:31pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:17pm:
Post on phone via 4G and post on computer via wifi. Bang, different IP. Come on longie, you're acting crazy. Surprisingly longie always makes the same argument ... Must be to do with that time he was an it expert for Google so of course he knows all about ip addresses. ;) |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:31pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:29pm:
I asked the same thing , i forget whether it was the sock quoting Longy or the other way around but boy o boy did i find it bizarre. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:33pm
:P
Its time wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:31pm:
I missed it :(. Did he become all complimentary and flirty With himself? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:37pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Maria did accuse me of "perving". Still, I'm sure it was innocent. What did he say to you, Maria? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:37pm
Now i not trying to stir Mods up but when i got my ban here i just turned wifi off phone went on 4g and browsed and posted as normal .
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:39pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:33pm:
Was validating something that was so far off the mark only a sock would back it up to the best of my recollection. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:49pm Its time wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:39pm:
Was it his maths skills then? ;) |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Aussie on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:54pm
Nailed it.
Quote:
How would "Maria" know the IP addy of anyone other than "herself." |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Dnarever on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:09pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:12pm:
Nobody knows what IP address you are posting from as far as I can tell ? If you wished to obfuscate an IP through an anonymous proxy it is not difficult. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:14pm Aussie wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:54pm:
She is good at integral calculus. Could she work it out with maths? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:34pm Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:24pm:
He is a more intelligent poster than the average, which unfortunately says not that much. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:36pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:24pm:
IN different states, that you can use at the same time? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:37pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:36pm:
Vpn. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:38pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Have you ever used a phone to type ANYTHING of substance? PLus, the IP address would still be geographically similar at best. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:39pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:34pm:
Does he pass for a female , when he shaves the beard :) |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:40pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:38pm:
On a phone right now. And you rarely type anything of substance, longie. Generally just abuse comes out of your mouth. Would you like to see me change my ip to show I'm in Norway? I can do that in 3 seconds :) |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:42pm Aussie wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:54pm:
There is no way you were ever a lawyer. Your inability to formulate a logical argument or to understand such is truly legendary. The point - should you choose to try and understand - is that I know FOR A FACT that my IP address and longy's are different. Now imagine if you can, how I can know that for certain. There are in fact only two ways I can know that for sure. 1) I am a moderator with access to IP addresses or 2) and this is a biggie, mr lawyer, I know I am not longy. I've never met anyone quite as inadequate as you. Taxi driver I can believe. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:43pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:37pm:
??? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:44pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:40pm:
Since I cannot see your IP address, how would that help me? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Aussie on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:45pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:42pm:
How jolly. What is the IP addy of melielongtime? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Aussie on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:52pm
Forgot to add:
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There is probably just one person here who believes that ~ Lisa "Willnot" Jones. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 8:24pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:36pm:
One in Tasmania, and two in WA. It's no big deal, Longy. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 10:43pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:43pm:
Vpn |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 10:44pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:44pm:
Stop pretending, longie. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 24th, 2016 at 6:04pm Aussie wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 7:45pm:
Not mine. How hard was that? You really arent very intuitive, are you? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Aussie on Jan 24th, 2016 at 6:12pm
Sorry......I'm not taking your word for it.
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Jan 24th, 2016 at 6:14pm Aussie wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 6:12pm:
I doubt you would find one person that would unless they were a complete ditz. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 24th, 2016 at 6:16pm Its time wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 6:14pm:
Longy might believe her. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by skippy. on Jan 24th, 2016 at 8:39pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 6:02pm:
You'd best be careful, you can get into trouble for posting photos of yourself here. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:04am
SO where is the Malevolent Monk. I cant wait for him to tell me how the Libs polls are dropping like a stone and how the NBN has reached $500B. And unemployment is rising as well. And we have been in recession for a year.
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 25th, 2016 at 6:30pm
Latest Morgan poll shows Lib support dropping another 1%. Link.
That is 2.5% drop in Lib support over the last two Morgans. Poll recording 1.5% drop in Lib support is here. Essential 51:49 on 19 Jan Link. The sugar rush of polls is over and the polls are declining as the economy goes to {censored} REACHTEL has problems: no control that the callees are honest and it does not allow a “don’t know” type of option. It also uses landlines when less and less young people, more likely to vote Labor, have landline phones. Their methodology explained here. You will note that there IS NO OPTION FOR “DON’T KNOW!” Sorry Longy, the Libs are going down to defeat. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by cods on Jan 25th, 2016 at 6:35pm
I hear PUP would only get 2% of the primary vote if an election happened tomorrow..
where did all THAT LOVE GO???>. ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Redneck on Jan 25th, 2016 at 6:40pm cods wrote on Jan 25th, 2016 at 6:35pm:
You could ask Aussie , but he is sensitive about being dragged into topics that dont concern him. Doesnt seem to worry him going the other way I think! |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:01pm Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 25th, 2016 at 6:40pm:
PUP gets 1% actually. Palmer himself gets only 2% in the seat he currently holds. He is currently the worst performing MP in history. He is never seen by his electorate and the Liberal candidate is the one the people go to as the Fat Fool is too lazy. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by stunspore on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:07pm
Amazing how brutal lib supporters turn on their ex-libs. It's like you would get lynched if you leave their party.
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Aussie on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:23pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:01pm:
According to whom? Let me guess. The Liberal candidate whom Clive beat in 2013? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:42pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:37pm:
You're mixing that smell up with sh!t because your head is up your arse. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:51pm
That REACHTEL poll is further stuffed because younger people are away on holiday.
Next REACHTEL will be closer to reality. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:53pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Leftwinger eh? Interesting name for a sock. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Aussie on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:55pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:53pm:
Yeas, Jones, I have no imagination. You've winkled me out yet again. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:55pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:04am:
Monk is always around....in some form or another. You might want to ask Leftwinger re where Monk might be ::) |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Jan 25th, 2016 at 9:32pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:55pm:
Prob toasting to Longies fear ;D |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Aussie on Jan 25th, 2016 at 9:45pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:55pm:
You've got it all wrong Jones. Leftwinger is me. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Jan 25th, 2016 at 11:03pm Aussie wrote on Jan 25th, 2016 at 9:45pm:
bugger it , love playing on paranoia , nothing wrong with that Aussie , if he wasnt for his in depth analysis this whole site would die ::) |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Jan 25th, 2016 at 11:17pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:53pm:
Was suppositoryofwisdom but felt like a change , i left avatar and armpits quote just so you didnt confused , the difference between me an aussie is i dont gaf , i dont run a psuedo, nobody but nobody is the sirpository of all wisdom. I will play along aussie ;) |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 26th, 2016 at 8:40am Aussie wrote on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:23pm:
Stop being so obviously desperate. Clive's polls are now at just 2%. Pretty much everyone thinks he has been an absolutely terrible MP, especially his electorate. And yes, the liberal candidate gets more people contacting him because Palmer refuses to do the job. And who could have predicted that the Fat Fool would throw it all away when he realised he couldnt get what he wanted? EVERYONE. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 26th, 2016 at 8:51am Its time wrote on Jan 25th, 2016 at 11:17pm:
Your old ID made it clearer where most of your thoughts came from. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by cods on Jan 26th, 2016 at 8:59am Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 25th, 2016 at 6:40pm:
well aussie is 1% but whos the other twat?... I mean clive will sue all the deserters surely?.. ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Jan 26th, 2016 at 9:07am mariacostel wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 8:51am:
Last time heard that i laughed so hard i fell off my dinosaur. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by The Grappler on Jan 26th, 2016 at 10:30am
I see the Libs polling is dropping like a stone...........
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:24pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 10:30am:
Did your brother the Astronaut tell you that or was it the ASIO spy or SAS captain? Or maybe it was just the voices in your head again. Time to up your medication... |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by The Grappler on Jan 26th, 2016 at 8:04pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:24pm:
No astronaut brother and that's Colonel to you..... acting.... Your pithy comments (damn my spelling there) are very close to miniscule in import..... but I wouldn't expect you to know the difference...... ;D ;D ;D **set LongMania up a beauty there, neh? Bites like a toothless shark..... must be hard living that way... all het up with the world because they can't recognise your double gender status...** Jesus as a cross dresser, BTW - the Romans dressed up a cross with him.... |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Jan 26th, 2016 at 8:09pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 8:04pm:
Smell the fear leeching from his pores |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by The Grappler on Jan 26th, 2016 at 10:35pm Its time wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 8:09pm:
Spends all day here sniping at people and hitting nothing.... amazing... simply amazing.... no Longie or Mania or He Men have ever scored one hit on me.... but they try mightily..... |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by The Grappler on Jan 27th, 2016 at 12:31am
Longie retreats! Time for the cavalry.... put your sword in his ass and push him all the way to Berlin!! Goddamn it! I want MEN here to fight this bastard! Give him no time to regroup or build a line... kick him in the ass while you hold him by the short and curlies.... or don't come back!
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 27th, 2016 at 8:58am
You need help Grappler. I'd suggest a woman shrink I know, but with your AVO and all...
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 27th, 2016 at 12:43pm
Essential. A 0.2% lift in Lib support sees the Essential got to poll 52:48. No change, effectively.
Australians support a reduction in military involvement in Syria and Iraq. Not on their site yet but keep checking http://www.essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by aquascoot on Jan 27th, 2016 at 12:48pm
with the liberals in power, they should draw up legislation making the liberal party the ruling party in perpetuity.
i have presented many good arguements why rightards are the natural party of leadership. it is going against nature to have the left trying to lead. as it is unnatural, the liberals need to make it unlawful. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 27th, 2016 at 12:50pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 12:48pm:
-----------> you don't even know what the left is :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D BTW did you know that horsies can eat gold apparently ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by aquascoot on Jan 27th, 2016 at 12:52pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
well, how would the country go with the likes of you in charge DRAH, :D :D :D :D :D. i think you prove my point |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 27th, 2016 at 12:58pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 25th, 2016 at 8:42pm:
Armchair still thinks lib voters are proud of copper internet ... armchair knows the world turns and the liberal party will be left with the stench of copper internet for the entire asian century we built and he cries every night knowing THAT I SPEAK THE TRUTH! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ARMCHAIR KNOWS PEOPLE DIED FOR THIS COUNTRY AND TO SHOVE COPPER INTERNET UP ITS ASS WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN OR FORGIVEN :D :D :D GOOD LUCK IN THE NURSING HOME BUDDY WHEN YOUR FAMILY SHOW YOU HOW MUCH THEY LOVE THE COPPER INTERNET YOU BOUGHT THEM WITH THEIR TAXES ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I MEAN :'( :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ OH: WHO WAS JOHN HOWARD AGAIN? YEH, THAT'S WHAT ABBOTT WILL BE REMEMBERED AS- EVEN NASTIER THAN JOHN HOWARD :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 27th, 2016 at 1:01pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 12:52pm:
You don't even know your left from your right buddy ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D You think horsies can eat gold :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by aquascoot on Jan 27th, 2016 at 1:32pm
lefties seem to think that righties are involved in some sort of 'power grab" when i assert that leadership naturally belongs to the right.
its very similar to feminists and beta males getting upset when i assert that leadership is the natural role of the male. Its not some "prize" Its not some thing i think the right and males should aspire to for selfish reasons. leadership comes from a sense of contribution when it comes from the right. selfish people on the right can just stay at home and trade shares and skin super and be lazy. When a rightie steps up and wants to lead, it comes from a place of wanting to "give" of himself. very similar to when a male steps up and "leads" in the family. its the lazy beta male who lets his wife lead, so he can sit on the couch and watch football (or the ABC). Leadership is a solemn responsibility and a hard grind and a thankless task. Only the on track, charged dynamic , successful, self actualised male with the values of the right is suited , or indeed capable of doing this difficult job well. we all benefit when real men lead us. you certainly could benefit from being around some real rightard alpha men DRAH. ;) |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Labor voter on Jan 27th, 2016 at 3:12pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 12:48pm:
So you are happy with a one party state? North Korea is like that so go and live there. That should make you and your horse very happy. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by aquascoot on Jan 27th, 2016 at 4:21pm Labor voter wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 3:12pm:
i would be happy to see 2 alpha-led parties fight it out. competition is good. think of it like Bill Gates v Steve Jobs, the entrepreneurial business cream rising to the top in a spirit of contribution and competition. i am not happy to see beta males (or worse females) trying to gain the ascendency and "lead" the country. whiney emotional women (plibosek, gillard, hansen young) who are governed by their emotions are unfit for leadership. those raised in the union movement have led a life dominated by complaining, whining, sooking and writing a cry-baby narrative. such beta males cannot have a sense of contribution. To be parasitic is not to lead. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 27th, 2016 at 4:36pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 12:43pm:
Well done Monk! You actually noted and accepted a LIFT in Lib support. Before you know it, you will be accepting all manner of facts and truths! |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 27th, 2016 at 4:40pm Labor voter wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 3:12pm:
I wonder if you got the satire. Being a leftie you are of course completely humourless. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 27th, 2016 at 6:01pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 4:36pm:
You think 0.2% is a RISE? A statistical fluke, no more, in the decimal part. Dear god :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 27th, 2016 at 6:07pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 4:40pm:
It was LONGY said that last line! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 27th, 2016 at 6:09pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 4:21pm:
More fantasy from horse boy. Just ignore. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by LEUT Bigvicfella (RTD) on Jan 27th, 2016 at 7:45pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 6:09pm:
After the stunning success of the alpha males Mr Newman and Mr Napthine, liberals in perpetuity is the last thing we need. And the alpha male Mr Abbott what a stunning success. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 27th, 2016 at 8:28pm
You should read horse boy’s posts from whoa to go!
Brumbies joining themselves to horse boy’s mythical purebreeds would be kicked to death. Nah, only the stallion, any stallion is happy to add a few more mares/jenny’s to his herd. Next post on this was a few weeks later, the brumbies would be accepted by “his” herd :D I tell you, your head spins trying to cope with horse boy’s rabid anthropocentrism! His latest thing is “alpha male.” It is pretty clear he has no idea what that means. It is all based on no doubt partial readings of “self help” books written by frauds. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 27th, 2016 at 8:38pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 6:01pm:
Rather a rise than a fall. An in any case, the point of my post was that this was the first time anyone has seen you accept a poll that shows a rise in liberal votes. It is such a rarity most are in shock still. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 27th, 2016 at 8:52pm
He still thinks 0.2% is a RISE!
Oh boy :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D Longy Longy Longy You should not show your desperation so nakedly! Oh dear oh dear, 0.2% could mean anything at all, given that the Margin of Error is about 3%, that is THREE percent NOT nought POINT three%. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Jan 27th, 2016 at 8:54pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 8:38pm:
Actually nobody but you cares ::) |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by The Grappler on Jan 27th, 2016 at 9:13pm Vic wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 7:45pm:
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Jan 27th, 2016 at 9:24pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 9:13pm:
That was a good one :) |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 27th, 2016 at 9:43pm
Wish fulfilment fantasies. Unlike Longy, I think horse boy sees the Libs will lose the next election and so fantasises that Libs are “alphas” and so should reign forever.
Just hark back to Pig Iron Bob, 1949 to 1966. He carried out Curtin’s vision like the post war immigration and the Snowy Mts Scheme etc. But by 1966 we needed something more contemporary. We are not getting it now. Howard, abbott, turncoat just useless neocons. Neoconservatism bankrupts any country that applies it, just look at the US and its $US17Trn debt. The Libs will lose the next election and deserve to lose it. Destroyed the ONE project that could have increased jobs, exports and GDP and kicked the car makers out. All they can think of is how to make the ultra rich even richer. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:33am Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 9:43pm:
Poor old Malevolent Monk. You just cannot accept the polls and what they are saying. They are telling you that the Liberals will win the next election by a similar, if not larger, margin than the last one. The election this year will be fun... for me. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mothra on Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:50am mariacostel wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:33am:
Really? What are you voting for? Turnbull has been the singularly most absentee member of parliament i can think of. What has he done ... stood for ... represented .. advocated for? He's just missing. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 28th, 2016 at 8:20am
The current polls tell me the sugar rush of polls for Turncoat is over. As the Libs bumble along they will lose more support. 15% GST on everything not scary to you? It is to sensible people.
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 28th, 2016 at 9:39am Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 8:20am:
The polls that are stable and have been for some time at 53/47? The only message you seem to be getting is from the little voices in your head. 15% GST has been on the table for 6 months and what did it do to the polls? NOTHING keep-calm-and-carry-on-being-gullible-you-fool_004.png (43 KB | 31
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 28th, 2016 at 9:43am mariacostel wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 9:39am:
Why did you get banned this time, longie? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 28th, 2016 at 12:59pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 9:43am:
I've never been banned. Do you accept that the polls are comfortably in the Libs court? It is quite fascinating watching some of the near-pathological delusion that is at play with Monk. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 28th, 2016 at 3:57pm
Business confidence down again:
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http://roymorganresearch.cmail20.com/t/j-l-hkiyitk-uhdjhkgi-o/ Down down down and with it will go Lib support. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Neferti on Jan 28th, 2016 at 4:14pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 3:57pm:
That's only because Tony has gone. ;D |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 28th, 2016 at 6:31pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 3:57pm:
And in today's lesson the Mad Monk learns that a business confidence survey and a political poll are two very different beasts. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 28th, 2016 at 6:40pm
I did say as the Libs bumble along they will lose support.
Libs are drifting! Turncoat is NOT giving leadership! I am confident the Libs will lose the next election. Turncoat should have called a snap election after he won the Leadership. That would have seen a big Lib victory giving Mal his authority over the right wing nutters. Now the economy will worsen and Lib support with it. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:58am Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 6:40pm:
You really are a silly person. Would you like to find a single credible professional opinion that supports your fantasy? Not even the ALP front bench believes they can win. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by John Smith on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:03am mariacostel wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:58am:
what a load of bollocks ... you still making crap up I see? The election is a long way away yet and anything can happen. No one in their right mind would declare it won yet. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:26pm John Smith wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:03am:
Go right on and believe it. The polls are hugely in the Libs favour, Turnbull is massively popular while SHorten is hated by almost everyone. The election campaign with an articulate and confident Turnbull will crush a hapless Shorten. Your biggest fear should be control of the senate. It's a long shot, but not impossible. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by John Smith on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:12pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 6:26pm:
when you provide proof that ' Not even the ALP front bench believes they can win' you can reply, until then, take a sleeping pill and put a plastic bag around your head. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Dnarever on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:46pm John Smith wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 8:03am:
No one in their right mind would declare it won yet Let alone have the hide to copy Longy's much used exact words to do it. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 29th, 2016 at 10:20pm
Polls have stabilised and starting to slide. The Libs are split, Turnbull is giving no leadership and the economy is slowing. The only solution the Libs have is to increase the GST.
Polls schmolls, the Libs are stuffed! |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Jan 30th, 2016 at 7:42pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 29th, 2016 at 10:20pm:
The actual polls and experts choose to disagree. Get back on your meds! |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 31st, 2016 at 2:44pm
We will see.
I see a divided bunch of hacks, nincumpoops, no leadership and 15% GST. You might care to conjure up an imaginary Lib win but I see them lose. They might even switch back to abbott again, won’t take much more than 1 bad poll, and that bad poll and other bad polls is on its way. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by double plus good on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:06pm
On paper it's pretty hard to see the Libs losing. Sure, an increase in the GST seems likely but so does a carbon tax (giving a tax another name doesn't change anything). Apart from that, Turnbull is intelligent and personable while Shorten's a dill.Elsewhere; Morrison, Bishop and Dutton have high profiles that seem hard for the left media to ridicule. Joyce for the leader of the Nats will usher in a lot of rural support. Lastly, the Libs have either punted or demoted non-performers. Over on the left we have the same pack of nobodies, has beens and never weres. The only one I'd rate is Albanese but unfortunately the puppet masters don't. Letting in the boats again, flooding the country with Muslim refugees,same sex marriage,carbon tax...PASS.
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:24pm Quote:
Morrisson the failed ad man (Where the bloody hell are you) and christian nutter. Dutton—Mr Potato head Bishop—bit of a clown dressed in Armani. Rocked up to the Indo President wearing a camisole! No, sorry, don’t see anything there to get the pulses racing. BTW BOATS are now a Lib negative as stories of appalling treatment of refugees in our concentration camps leaks out. Labor policy, unfortunately, is no better than the Libs’ moral bankruptcy. NBN—a negative, Netflix made sure of that! The MTM mess is hopeless crap! Economy—slowing and the Libs spending is nearly 26% of GDP! The intellectually deprived tribe of incompetents and complete nincumpoops REALLY need to weed out all the Howardista profligacy from the Budget. Those FTAs and the TPP the Libs are dying to sign have not done any good for the country, have they? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by double plus good on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:39pm
Stimulus payments to dead people and ex-pats. Pink batts installations causing house fires, deaths and millions of dollars rorted/wasted. Needlessly killing off the live cattle trade. Windmills, wave generators and de-salination plants all mothballed or grossly ineffective. Education rorts. Billions of dollars wasted with the reopening of the borders against all sane advice. Propping up dud companies like Ford and Holden. Talk about profligacy!
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by stunspore on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:24pm double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:39pm:
Exaggeration. Sure, minute % happen. But overall much better than what libs offer - well at least to the less well off. I guess if you're a lib voter then you should be enjoying the porkbarrelling. It's funny how the lab govt (state that is) in Vic still put money in the nat's electorate to improve conditions knowing that they will never win. Can't remember which article that was though. But reading the stats on where libs were putting money in the last state lib govt, the pork barrelling was so obvious. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by aquascoot on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:45pm
i was talking to someone who knew malcolm at maquarie Bank.
said he kept a dirt file on everyone and was the most cunning man she'd ever met. makes him perfect for the next election |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by double plus good on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:55pm
It's funny; it's the exact opposite in New South. Baby Faced Baird is the tax-man from hell. Nevertheless, Labor we're so corrupt for so long, the Libs could go on a shooting spree in a kindergarten and still Labor wouldn't get in. The loss of traditional safe Labor seats in Sydney's western suburbs were a big reason for the swing against the ALP federally. The same old union stooges won't help.
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Dnarever on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:01pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 4:45pm:
Didn't think Mal was with Macquarie bank. Wasn't when I was there and nobody ever talked about him. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:01pm double plus good wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 3:39pm:
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Considering the HIP retrofitted over 1.2m homes, 20+ years work in normal times, the deaths and fires were actually less per 1000 retrofits. One installer went out and bought metal staples after being issued with plastic ones. Live cattle trade—The graziers and their representative bodies should have known how their cattle were being treated. The current bunch of losers and jerkoffs insulted the Indo Pres and now our Indo allocation is 25% of what it used to be. Salination plants, by State govts. We will need them when the next 10 years drought hits. Borders—you probably think the Pacific Solution did anything. Now we have thousands of people in concentration camps. Wonderful, not. Meantime, the idiot Libs are running out copper. Copper! More expensive to roll out, power and maintain yet does so much less! |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by stunspore on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:45pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:01pm:
Considering the HIP retrofitted over 1.2m homes, 20+ years work in normal times, the deaths and fires were actually less per 1000 retrofits. One installer went out and bought metal staples after being issued with plastic ones. Live cattle trade—The graziers and their representative bodies should have known how their cattle were being treated. The current bunch of losers and jerkoffs insulted the Indo Pres and now our Indo allocation is 25% of what it used to be. Salination plants, by State govts. We will need them when the next 10 years drought hits. Borders—you probably think the Pacific Solution did anything. Now we have thousands of people in concentration camps. Wonderful, not. Meantime, the nice person Libs are running out copper. Copper! More expensive to roll out, power and maintain yet does so much less! [/quote] Exaggeration that unfortunately, some of the public bought. Very clever marketing from libs. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by double plus good on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:48pm
Nice theory, Monk, just not backed up by those nasty little things called 'facts'. The last year of Howard there was less than a hundred asylum seekers arriving by boat. After a peak of over 20,000 under Gillard the number is again back under a hundred. The peak of @1400 kids in detention under Gillard is again back under a hundred. Vote Labor if you want boats, drownings and full detention centres. If you don't want kids in detention, don't vote ALP, eh Virginia?
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by aquascoot on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:54pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:01pm:
goldman sachs Dna, my apologies. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Dnarever on Feb 1st, 2016 at 12:22pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:54pm:
Same thing in reality. I only commented because I had a few run ins with Mal and the feathers would have been ruffled had we come across each other at Mac. |
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Title: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by Redneck on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:03pm
Latest
Libs 52.5 (-2.5) Labor 47.5 +2.5 http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/files/morgan%20poll/2016/february/6665-vote-2pp.jpg? |
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by John Smith on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:07pm Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:03pm:
hmmm, it looks like it's falling to me but surely it can't be, Maria says it's not. |
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by Leftwinger on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:10pm John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:07pm:
Cue statement that the only poll that matters is on election day from longy in about a month ;) |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:13pm
Looks like the public have worked out its the same steaming pile of doggy doo policies from the right wingers in party :)
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Neferti on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:14pm
How often have you had the phone-call asking for your political opinion?
I get called, regularly. They initially asked for "somebody under 35" so I lied ......... ;D Now I am on their List. ;D I am the one that gives the Liberals the extra 1% ... don't muck about being truthful when they ask your age ........ |
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by Leftwinger on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:14pm John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:07pm:
Que trends |
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by Aussie on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:16pm John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:07pm:
No surprise really, and next week it will be worse for the Libs with the gloss falling off Turnbull, his GST back down, Gonski, Ruddock's obvious job for the Old Boy, and now a third Minister in the sheeet. Underlining all that is a (a) complete lack of new vision ~ It is same sheeeety ship, different Captain, and (b) Abbott/Credlin white anting. |
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by mariacostel on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:22pm John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:07pm:
Morgan is always all over the place. They had the libs at 56.5 and now 52.5 all while the majors just stay on 53/47. Now without the GST holding them back, the polls will only improve. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:23pm Neferti wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:14pm:
They ask for under 35s only??? No wonder they are notoriously unreliable. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Neferti on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:27pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:23pm:
Exactly! Next time they ring and ask "is there anyone under 35?' Go for it. Polls are absolutely USELESS. |
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by Aussie on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:30pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:22pm:
Nah. Labor can justifiably say that the Libs may have taken it out of debate, but their intent will be to introduce it after the election if they win. Labor would be nuts not to take that line. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:31pm
The public has worked them out , no plan no substance no vision , its all about seeing if they scrape through for a second term , not sure how they plan on pork barreling the electorate this time around :D
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by 21st Century Dialup Network on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:38pm Its time wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:31pm:
They can't and this will be the issue. http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6665-morgan-poll-on-federal-voting-intention-february-9-2016-201602090452 52.5/47.5 - it's tightening as people may be starting to question Turnbull's policies. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by John Smith on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:39pm Neferti wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:27pm:
that might explain how they came up with these numbers However, the L-NP leads with all older age groups: 35-49yr olds (L-NP 51.5% cf. ALP 48.5%); 50-64yr olds (L-NP 55.5% cf. ALP 44.5%) and easily amongst those aged 65+ (L-NP 61% cf. ALP 39%). :D :D :D |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:53pm Neferti wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:27pm:
Smell the fear :P |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Neferti on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:54pm John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:39pm:
It explains absolutely NOTHING .... When asked who you will vote for, by a perfect stranger (on the phone) your first reaction is "None of your business" ... isn't it? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:55pm John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:39pm:
Libs caputuring the dimentia vote |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Neferti on Feb 9th, 2016 at 5:06pm Its time wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:55pm:
Or just those who vote ALP because they consider it the Working Class Party for people who left school at 15. ::) * Spelling errors. ;) |
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by mariacostel on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:04pm Aussie wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:30pm:
Who would believe them? The record so far is that the GST has only eve been taken to an election. Meanwhile, Labor has the Carbon Tax fiasco as a weight on its election credibility. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:06pm Its time wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:53pm:
Who wants to smell Labor's fear? From a safe and comfortable 53/47 lead and holding, the only fear you smell is your own. |
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by John Smith on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:07pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:04pm:
EVERYONE ... afterall, we're talking about the party that bought you such classics as no cuts to ABC or SBS No cuts to health no cuts to education no changes to super no changes to GST no cuts to pensions and many more classic hits :D :D :D |
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by Aussie on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:09pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:04pm:
Gillard's situation was entirely different from Abbott's. Must I yet again post that video of Abbott lying his arse off on the eve of the 2013 election? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:11pm Its time wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 4:55pm:
at 50?? More likely, people with more of life experience tend to vote for safer hands ie the Libs. |
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by Leftwinger on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:11pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:04pm:
You mean the booming 4.5billion and rising industry that spun off from its inception , vs the Libs new mining boom thats generated zero dollars and zero jobs :D |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:12pm
Smell the fear , its palpable
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by mariacostel on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:13pm Aussie wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:09pm:
It's not at all different. Gillard made a rock-solid unconditional election promise and broke it for no reason a few days later. Dont come back with the Greens support argument. There was no way Bob Brown was ever under any circumstances going to support an Abbott minority government. Gillard could have offered him absolutely nothing and she would still be minority government. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:14pm Its time wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:12pm:
In you, yes. Already the media and political analysts are talking about the possibility of a GST in 2020 if it is taken to the 2019 election by a Liberal government. Not one person gives Labor a chance to even get close at the election this year. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:18pm
Libs mining boom , last seen with budget emergency , if found please contact Lib HQ
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:19pm |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Aussie on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:19pm Quote:
Oakshot and Windsor were Greens? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:21pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:19pm: Sure do Greg , it reeks |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by John Smith on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:32pm Aussie wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:19pm:
don't argue with Maria, the truth is whatever she says it is .... even if reality says differently |
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by Redneck on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:37pm John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Maria?/ Longie is shitting her/himself Will she/he disappear for a couple of months so embarrassed like after the Qld election? I am loving it!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by skippy. on Feb 10th, 2016 at 9:24am
Longy never really disappeared. He just entered a clinic for reassignment surgery.
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Feb 10th, 2016 at 9:41am Its time wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:18pm:
GLOBAL MINING BOOM. Have you not noticed that the resources sector is in trouble world-wide? Why are left-wingers so ignorant? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by 21st Century Dialup Network on Feb 10th, 2016 at 11:20am mariacostel wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 9:41am:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D You calling anyone ignorant is a tad ironic. As this is the case, how do you propose Australia transitions ? I wish there was a new sector we could concentrate on - like the internet or green tech for instance. Coal/Oil = Good (ugh) RIGHT? |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Bam on Feb 10th, 2016 at 12:05pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:14pm:
Essential 51-49 |
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by Karnal on Feb 10th, 2016 at 12:14pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 9th, 2016 at 6:13pm:
Er, she formed a minority government in partnership with a minor party, dear. The carbon tax was an interim move to an emissions trading scheme. As she said, there will be no carbon tax under a government I lead... BUT I AM DETERMINED TO PRICE CARBON. Mr Abbott promised not to make any cuts while at the same time, he planned to make them. University reform, Welfare reform - these had been years in the planning. The cuts to the ABC and SBS were completely predictable. The massive cuts to forward state revenue, however, were a surprise to all, and were designed as such. They were a political move to shock the states into supporting a hike to the GST. The Libs went into the 2013 election with a GST rise planned for the next election. Longy used the John Hewson argument for this: Mr Abbott would have been crazy to promise cuts during an election campaign - look what happened to John Hewson. In so doing, of course, Longy supported the use of white lies during elections. Don't tell the electorate anything, but if you do, be flexible with the truth. Gillard, on the other hand, went into the 2010 election with no intention of a carbon tax. She agreed to an interim carbon tax to form minority government, in much the same way as David Cameron was forced to change policies to form a minority government with the Lib Dems. The carbon tax was not Labor policy - it was the result of a post-election deal. If the Libs had formed minority government, they would have needed to change policies too. The reason they were not asked to form government is the independents didn't trust Mr Abbott, who at one point said he'd do anything but sell his arse. Mr Abbott met them in his office, reclined in a chair with his feet on his desk. Windsor and Oakeshot thought he was just the type to go back on a deal. Just look how right they were. Mr Abbott is now down as being the most untrustworthy politician in Australian history. The Libs themselves acknowledge that they couldn't continue with a PM who had lost such trust with the Australian people. Mr Abbott based his campaign on integrity, and meanwhile, he was planning to do the opposite of his election promises. When he got in, his economic policies proved so different from his election promises, most were rejected in the senate. How could policies like a 6 month wait for the dole be passed while a tax on the super-profits of foreign mining companies was scrapped? Not only was it a complete turnaround on the stated election promise of no cuts to Centrelink, it was massively unfair. It was also, of course, terrible policy, particularly in a climate of rising unemployment. What were retrenched workers supposed to do for 6 months? There are too many of Mr Abbott's lies to mention. They put Gillard's shift to a carbon tax "lie" to bed. Mr Abbott's fibs, along with the gall of his "integrity" mantras (under-promise and over-deliver, say what you'll do and do what you say, etc), have had the effect of redeeming Gillard. Until Mr Abbott came to power, Australia had not seen such a scale of lies and broken promises. There is no comparison in Australian history. What the electorate could never fathom was how Mr Abbott could keep pretending he never went back on a promise. To this day, according to journalists who've interviewed him, Mr Abbott doesn't seem to get it. He blames the press. He blames the senate. He even blames sexism for the "attacks" on his chief of staff. Mr Abbott has outdone JuLiar in every possible way imaginable. Truth is stranger than fiction, eh? No one could have made this up. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Karnal on Feb 10th, 2016 at 12:17pm
THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVERNMENT I LEAD, DEAR.
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Feb 10th, 2016 at 3:53pm Bam wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
Because Essential is so accurate? The only poll to predict a Labor victory in 2013. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Karnal on Feb 10th, 2016 at 4:02pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 3:53pm:
Longy disagreed with the very idea of polls when Mr Abbott was in, dear. They were never accurate, people lied, the pollsters were crooks, the maths were wrong, etc, etc, etc. If he was here, he'd disagree with you completely. |
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by mariacostel on Feb 10th, 2016 at 6:21pm Melanias purse wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 12:14pm:
Anyone who believes Bob Brown would have supported a Liberal Abbott government if Gillard wouldnt put a carbon tax in place really needs some mental health treatment. She could have abused the Greens every day and they still would have supported her. When the ALP finally tore up the Greens agreement, what changed? NOTHING. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Bam on Feb 10th, 2016 at 8:01pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 3:53pm:
You don't get to pick and choose. You were wrong, admit it. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Leftwinger on Feb 10th, 2016 at 8:07pm
Smell that , what ? FEAR
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Title: Re: Feb poll shows Libs 52.5 (-2.5)/Labor 47.5 (+2.5) Post by Karnal on Feb 11th, 2016 at 9:33am mariacostel wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 6:21pm:
No, what Gillard got out of the Greens is an agreement to support policy. This was quid pro quo for the carbon tax. There was only one Green, I think, in the lower house - the house that forms government. The independents drove the process. Windsor, Oakshot and Wilkie wanted action on climate change. Windsor and Oakshot were both ex-Nats. They were expected to put the Libs in. Indeed, Longy never forgave them for not doing this. The carbon tax was not just to get the support of the Greens. The transition to a floating carbon price (the ETS) was the key. This is what the independents wanted. Gillard delivered. Mr Abbott made noises about selling his arse. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Redneck on Feb 11th, 2016 at 9:43am
"The only poll that counts is on erection day!" eh Karnal?
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Karnal on Feb 11th, 2016 at 1:11pm Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 9:43am:
That's what Longy used to say. I miss him, Redneck. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by John Smith on Feb 11th, 2016 at 1:16pm Melanias purse wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 1:11pm:
He'll be back just as soon as Maria takes her skirt off |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Redneck on Feb 11th, 2016 at 2:09pm
I dont suppose Longy is being banned regularly which coincides with Maria appearing!
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Aussie on Feb 11th, 2016 at 2:11pm Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 2:09pm:
I doubt that. The GMods would be all over it. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Redneck on Feb 11th, 2016 at 2:29pm
I dont suppose Longy is being banned regularly which coincides with Maria appearing!
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by mariacostel on Feb 11th, 2016 at 5:40pm Bam wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 8:01pm:
How am I wrong about the Libs leading in the polls? Essential will probably show 54/46 next week and 50/50 the week after that. Newspoll - an actual accurate polls - has had them on 53/47 for a couple months. I dont feel very motivated in accepting Essential after they tipped Rudd would win the last election a few weeks out. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Feb 11th, 2016 at 5:45pm Melanias purse wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 12:17pm:
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Bam on Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:28pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
You said (which I have highlighted): "Not one person gives Labor a chance to even get close at the election this year." 51-49 not close enough for you? :-? Shifting the goalposts doesn't convince anyone. mariacostel wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
This shows how poorly informed you are on opinion polls, especially the methodology used by the major pollsters. Essential uses rolling averages. No wonder nobody takes your views on opinion polls seriously - or any other topic, for that matter. mariacostel wrote on Feb 11th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
You don't feel motivated to accept ANY opinion pollster who has results you don't like. Your hatred of Morgan is well known, but you suddenly changed your mind when they had a few large leads for the Coalition. |
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Title: Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Post by Karnal on Feb 12th, 2016 at 1:32pm
I think you may have Maria confused with someone else, Bam. It was Longy who never trusted polls.
Maria's a big fan. |
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