Its been proven before that waves of migration cause a boost to the economy of countries  receiving the migrants.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-20/refugees-to-provide-economic-boost-to-eu-nations-imf-study-says


Quote:

European economic growth will see an immediate boost as a result of the unprecedented influx of refugees, according to an International Monetary Fund study, handing a silver lining to leaders including Chancellor Angela Merkel as they attempt to untangle the crisis. Gross domestic product in Germany alone, which has received about 1 million refugees including many fleeing war in Syria and Afghanistan, could expand by as much as 0.3 percent in 2017, according to the IMF report published Wednesday. Beyond 2017, the advantages will continue as long as Merkel and her fellow European Union leaders can get migrants into jobs by improving labor-market flexibility. “The negative effects of immigrant surges tend to be short-lived and temporary,” the IMF’s Enrica Detragiache, one of the report’s authors, said in a conference call. A positive impact “should be quite immediate” thanks to the “fiscal expansion that’s being carried out to provide for the refugees,” Detragiache said. The aggregate GDP across the 28-nation EU will rise by 0.13 percent in 2017 relative to the baseline scenario because of the migration trends, according to the report. With the German chancellor’s popularity at its lowest level since 2011 and European politicians warning of threats to the region’s social structure and passport-free travel, the IMF study shows it’s crucial for governments to get migrants into jobs to reap the economic benefits from the largest influx of refugees to Europe since World War II.

the key words are "getting migrants into jobs" . Good luck with getting middle eastern  Muslims to work for a living. These people will be a net drain on the economy long term, no doubt about it.

ian wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:02pm:

the key words are "getting migrants into jobs" . Good luck with getting middle eastern  Muslims to work for a living. These people will be a net drain on the economy long term, no doubt about it.

It was done with more intractable migrants. Poms!

Muslims should be a piece of cake.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:06pm:

ian wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:02pm: the key words are "getting migrants into jobs" . Good luck with getting middle eastern  Muslims to work for a living. These people will be a net drain on the economy long term, no doubt about it. It was done with more intractable migrants. Poms! Muslims should be a piece of cake.

facts dont support your assertion.

.. and will lead to a destruction of the social continuity.. same as the others before did....

I recall from the 60's in the industries.... the **** know all abouta da marney - but not-a de work.....

Progressive waves of immigrants with no real work ethic have reduced us to 'Mediterranean Capitalism'.. any way to make-a da dollar is-a the GOOD way...... but-a da work fot it?

Ahh - use-a da money to work-a for YOU - not-a you work for da marney!

Poor Fellow........................ My Country.....

The Deputy Khalif of Auburnistan springs to mind of exactly the kind of parasite let loose upon this community by our 'politically correct' elected representatives.....

Ship Of Fools....

HTS did they ever let loose upon us these parasites?

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:06pm:

ian wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:02pm: the key words are "getting migrants into jobs" . Good luck with getting middle eastern  Muslims to work for a living. These people will be a net drain on the economy long term, no doubt about it. It was done with more intractable migrants. Poms! Muslims should be a piece of cake.

Actually it pisses me off, that you try to make poms out to be lazy with no work ethic,. The reverse is true in my experience.

ian wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:59pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:06pm: ian wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:02pm: the key words are "getting migrants into jobs" . Good luck with getting middle eastern  Muslims to work for a living. These people will be a net drain on the economy long term, no doubt about it. It was done with more intractable migrants. Poms! Muslims should be a piece of cake. Actually it pisses me off, that you try to make poms out to be lazy with no work ethic,. The reverse is true in my experience.

Constant decline. I rest my case:

http://www.miketodd.net/encyc/dollar-verylong.gif

ian wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:02pm:

the key words are "getting migrants into jobs" . Good luck with getting middle eastern  Muslims to work for a living. These people will be a net drain on the economy long term, no doubt about it.

Show evidence that "these people" will be a net drain on the economy long term.

ian wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:40pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:06pm: ian wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:02pm: the key words are "getting migrants into jobs" . Good luck with getting middle eastern  Muslims to work for a living. These people will be a net drain on the economy long term, no doubt about it. It was done with more intractable migrants. Poms! Muslims should be a piece of cake. facts dont support your assertion.

Show these facts.

very poor understanding of economics there by the lefties.

A surge in HIV would massively boost GDP.
The ebola epidemic would have created a surge in economic activity as ANY activity causes GDP to rise.
When america locks up 100,000 petty drug users in expensive prisons , this is a boost to GDP.
The tsunami in japan would have boosted GDP.

Is a rise in GDP always a good thing.

Such simplistic thinking from the brainwashed OP.
I await some unhinged comment on "closet poms"  ;)

There will be a spike in GDP, no doubt about it. Globalist talking heads will shout it out as "proof" of how great the invasion is. 

The problem is, it's a) dead money and b) completely driven by debt.

Europe has a declining birth rate. In 2012 Germany's population change rate was -1.7% and it only became positive in 2013-2015 with the refugee influx.

It's not credible that horse semen harvester Aquascoot has more economic knowledge than his horses.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 12:17pm:

Europe has a declining birth rate. In 2012 Germany's population change rate was -1.7% and it only became positive in 2013-2015 with the refugee influx. It's not credible that horse semen harvester Aquascoot has more economic knowledge than his horses.

Why does the world need more people? It's way over populated as it is. The third world needs to do what the west does ,  use condoms and stop breeding.

double plus good wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 12:24pm:

use condoms and stop breeding

I commend you to follow your own advice for the sake of the world.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 12:36pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 12:24pm: use condoms and stop breeding I commend you to follow your own advice for the sake of the world.

Too late. My family has added a hefty slice of great white European genes for the world. The world doesn't need anymore darkie slum dwelling Laugh To You Cry  genes.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 3:59am:

ian wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:02pm: the key words are "getting migrants into jobs" . Good luck with getting middle eastern  Muslims to work for a living. These people will be a net drain on the economy long term, no doubt about it. Show evidence that "these people" will be a net drain on the economy long term.

85% of Muslim asylum seekers are still on welfare 5 years & more after their arrival.

The hordes marching across Europe aren't looking for jobs .... they're looking for the Welfare States where they know they will be looked after & have to do nothing.

They have no intention of assimilation.

European workers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATT_3jMVtSM


African migrant workers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55808-osLxE

Gnads wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 1:33pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 3:59am: ian wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:02pm: the key words are "getting migrants into jobs" . Good luck with getting middle eastern  Muslims to work for a living. These people will be a net drain on the economy long term, no doubt about it. Show evidence that "these people" will be a net drain on the economy long term. 85% of Muslim asylum seekers are still on welfare 5 years & more after their arrival. The hordes marching across Europe aren't looking for jobs .... they're looking for the Welfare States where they know they will be looked after & have to do nothing. They have no intention of assimilation. European workers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATT_3jMVtSM[/media] African migrant workers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55808-osLxE[/media]

Gnads is spruiking anti-Muslim rhetoric and hate propaganda again unsupported by any evidence.

Gnads has a deep well of hate.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 3:59am:

ian wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:02pm: the key words are "getting migrants into jobs" . Good luck with getting middle eastern  Muslims to work for a living. These people will be a net drain on the economy long term, no doubt about it. Show evidence that "these people" will be a net drain on the economy long term.

look around you.

Come orn.  They do save on dunny paper!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfIXzJMqhgU

Aussie wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:21pm:

Come orn.  They do save on dunny paper! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfIXzJMqhgU

:oThat would obviously boost the number of positions for janitors.

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:17pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 3:59am: ian wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:02pm: the key words are "getting migrants into jobs" . Good luck with getting middle eastern  Muslims to work for a living. These people will be a net drain on the economy long term, no doubt about it. Show evidence that "these people" will be a net drain on the economy long term. look around you.

? Australia has had economic growth for the last 22 odd years.

Have Muslim immigrants ANYWHERE in the non-Muslim wold boosted the economy, ever?

Soren wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:05pm:

Have Muslim immigrants ANYWHERE in the non-Muslim wold boosted the economy, ever?

Australia
US
UK
India
Canada
New Zealand

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:15pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:05pm: Have Muslim immigrants ANYWHERE in the non-Muslim wold boosted the economy, ever? Australia US UK India Canada New Zealand

Perhaps we can do a cost/benefit analysis.

Setanta wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:21pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:15pm: Soren wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:05pm: Have Muslim immigrants ANYWHERE in the non-Muslim wold boosted the economy, ever? Australia US UK India Canada New Zealand Perhaps we can do a cost/benefit analysis.

I'd be happy to see one. Perhaps it will put Soren's mind at ease?

Come on people! The very fact that the kebab has become the staple drunken food in Australia is enough of a cost benefit analysis to show that there is a net benefit of migration. ;)

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:30pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:21pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:15pm: Soren wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:05pm: Have Muslim immigrants ANYWHERE in the non-Muslim wold boosted the economy, ever? Australia US UK India Canada New Zealand Perhaps we can do a cost/benefit analysis. I'd be happy to see one. Perhaps it will put Soren's mind at ease? Come on people! The very fact that the kebab has become the staple drunken food in Australia is enough of a cost benefit analysis to show that there is a net benefit of migration. ;)

Mine is still bacon and eggs, don't generalise. I may eat one or two kebabs a year.

Setanta wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:33pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:30pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:21pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:15pm: Soren wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:05pm: Have Muslim immigrants ANYWHERE in the non-Muslim wold boosted the economy, ever? Australia US UK India Canada New Zealand Perhaps we can do a cost/benefit analysis. I'd be happy to see one. Perhaps it will put Soren's mind at ease? Come on people! The very fact that the kebab has become the staple drunken food in Australia is enough of a cost benefit analysis to show that there is a net benefit of migration. ;) Mine is still bacon and eggs, don't generalise. I may eat one or two kebabs a year.

No, no, no, no. Bacon and eggs is hangover food. Not drunk food. Drunk food is kebab. Or perhaps Mcondalds...if Kebab is not within reach.

;)

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:34pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:33pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:30pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:21pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:15pm: Soren wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:05pm: Have Muslim immigrants ANYWHERE in the non-Muslim wold boosted the economy, ever? Australia US UK India Canada New Zealand Perhaps we can do a cost/benefit analysis. I'd be happy to see one. Perhaps it will put Soren's mind at ease? Come on people! The very fact that the kebab has become the staple drunken food in Australia is enough of a cost benefit analysis to show that there is a net benefit of migration. ;) Mine is still bacon and eggs, don't generalise. I may eat one or two kebabs a year. No, no, no, no. Bacon and eggs is hangover food. Not drunk food. Drunk food is kebab. Or perhaps Mcondalds...if Kebab is not within reach. ;)

It's obvious you don't drink enough. ;D

Can't do kebabs but i could go a felafel.

Setanta wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:35pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:34pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:33pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:30pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:21pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:15pm: Soren wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:05pm: Have Muslim immigrants ANYWHERE in the non-Muslim wold boosted the economy, ever? Australia US UK India Canada New Zealand Perhaps we can do a cost/benefit analysis. I'd be happy to see one. Perhaps it will put Soren's mind at ease? Come on people! The very fact that the kebab has become the staple drunken food in Australia is enough of a cost benefit analysis to show that there is a net benefit of migration. ;) Mine is still bacon and eggs, don't generalise. I may eat one or two kebabs a year. No, no, no, no. Bacon and eggs is hangover food. Not drunk food. Drunk food is kebab. Or perhaps Mcondalds...if Kebab is not within reach. ;) It's obvious you don't drink enough. ;D

Take that back!!!! 

I drink myself plenty to need a kebab before bed, and bacon and eggs in the morning. Thank you very much!!

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:37pm:

Can't do kebabs but i could go a felafel.

More than okay for bother drunken and hungover remedies.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:38pm:

Take that back!!!!  I drink myself plenty to need a kebab before bed, and bacon and eggs in the morning. Thank you very much!!

See that proves it, you can actually leave the house!

Setanta wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:43pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:38pm: Take that back!!!!  I drink myself plenty to need a kebab before bed, and bacon and eggs in the morning. Thank you very much!! See that proves it, you can actually leave the house!

It's very much a stumbling back to the house.  The kebab shop is about 250m outside, and that sometimes takes about 45 minutes.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:48pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:43pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:38pm: Take that back!!!!  I drink myself plenty to need a kebab before bed, and bacon and eggs in the morning. Thank you very much!! See that proves it, you can actually leave the house! It's very much a stumbling back to the house.  The kebab shop is about 250m outside, and that sometimes takes about 45 minutes.

I'd have to stumble 2k each way only to find it's not open. Bacon and eggs...

Setanta wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:51pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:48pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:43pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:38pm: Take that back!!!!  I drink myself plenty to need a kebab before bed, and bacon and eggs in the morning. Thank you very much!! See that proves it, you can actually leave the house! It's very much a stumbling back to the house.  The kebab shop is about 250m outside, and that sometimes takes about 45 minutes. I'd have to stumble 2k each way only to find it's not open. Bacon and eggs...

Uber!

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:56pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:51pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:48pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:43pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:38pm: Take that back!!!!  I drink myself plenty to need a kebab before bed, and bacon and eggs in the morning. Thank you very much!! See that proves it, you can actually leave the house! It's very much a stumbling back to the house.  The kebab shop is about 250m outside, and that sometimes takes about 45 minutes. I'd have to stumble 2k each way only to find it's not open. Bacon and eggs... Uber!

I'm not sure that's an option here but even if it was that would mean less money to buy bacon and eggs and more beer. Grab y'self 2 doz eggs, free range, a kilo of full rasher Aussie bacon, perhaps a couple of tomatoes or a pineapple, save your money for more piss.

Setanta wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:05pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:56pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:51pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:48pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:43pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:38pm: Take that back!!!!  I drink myself plenty to need a kebab before bed, and bacon and eggs in the morning. Thank you very much!! See that proves it, you can actually leave the house! It's very much a stumbling back to the house.  The kebab shop is about 250m outside, and that sometimes takes about 45 minutes. I'd have to stumble 2k each way only to find it's not open. Bacon and eggs... Uber! I'm not sure that's an option here but even if it was that would mean less money to buy bacon and eggs and more beer. Grab y'self 2 doz eggs, free range, a kilo of full rasher Aussie bacon, perhaps a couple of tomatoes or a pineapple, save your money for more piss.

I'll try that next time, but it might not be the best outcome for me to handle cooking under drunken state.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:05pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:56pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:51pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:48pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:43pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:38pm: Take that back!!!!  I drink myself plenty to need a kebab before bed, and bacon and eggs in the morning. Thank you very much!! See that proves it, you can actually leave the house! It's very much a stumbling back to the house.  The kebab shop is about 250m outside, and that sometimes takes about 45 minutes. I'd have to stumble 2k each way only to find it's not open. Bacon and eggs... Uber! I'm not sure that's an option here but even if it was that would mean less money to buy bacon and eggs and more beer. Grab y'self 2 doz eggs, free range, a kilo of full rasher Aussie bacon, perhaps a couple of tomatoes or a pineapple, save your money for more piss. I'll try that next time, but it might not be the best outcome for me to handle cooking under drunken state.

It works fine, I've only left the fry pan on once in many, many decades. That was last week, I think it's age rather than alcohol related. :-/

Setanta wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:21pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:16pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:05pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:56pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:51pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:48pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:43pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:38pm: Take that back!!!!  I drink myself plenty to need a kebab before bed, and bacon and eggs in the morning. Thank you very much!! See that proves it, you can actually leave the house! It's very much a stumbling back to the house.  The kebab shop is about 250m outside, and that sometimes takes about 45 minutes. I'd have to stumble 2k each way only to find it's not open. Bacon and eggs... Uber! I'm not sure that's an option here but even if it was that would mean less money to buy bacon and eggs and more beer. Grab y'self 2 doz eggs, free range, a kilo of full rasher Aussie bacon, perhaps a couple of tomatoes or a pineapple, save your money for more piss. I'll try that next time, but it might not be the best outcome for me to handle cooking under drunken state. It works fine, I've only left the fry pan on once in many, many decades. That was last week, I think it's age rather than alcohol related. :-/

think nothing of it, we're all allowed to make a mistake once.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:33pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:21pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:16pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:05pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:56pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:51pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:48pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:43pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:38pm: Take that back!!!!  I drink myself plenty to need a kebab before bed, and bacon and eggs in the morning. Thank you very much!! See that proves it, you can actually leave the house! It's very much a stumbling back to the house.  The kebab shop is about 250m outside, and that sometimes takes about 45 minutes. I'd have to stumble 2k each way only to find it's not open. Bacon and eggs... Uber! I'm not sure that's an option here but even if it was that would mean less money to buy bacon and eggs and more beer. Grab y'self 2 doz eggs, free range, a kilo of full rasher Aussie bacon, perhaps a couple of tomatoes or a pineapple, save your money for more piss. I'll try that next time, but it might not be the best outcome for me to handle cooking under drunken state. It works fine, I've only left the fry pan on once in many, many decades. That was last week, I think it's age rather than alcohol related. :-/ think nothing of it, we're all allowed to make a mistake once.

That's not like me though. I'm a bit particular, I won's say pedantic, that's Old Greg's humourous domain. I was quietly a bit peeved about it.

edit: Are we any closer to a CBA?

Setanta wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:36pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:33pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:21pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:16pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:05pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:56pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:51pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:48pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:43pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:38pm: Take that back!!!!  I drink myself plenty to need a kebab before bed, and bacon and eggs in the morning. Thank you very much!! See that proves it, you can actually leave the house! It's very much a stumbling back to the house.  The kebab shop is about 250m outside, and that sometimes takes about 45 minutes. I'd have to stumble 2k each way only to find it's not open. Bacon and eggs... Uber! I'm not sure that's an option here but even if it was that would mean less money to buy bacon and eggs and more beer. Grab y'self 2 doz eggs, free range, a kilo of full rasher Aussie bacon, perhaps a couple of tomatoes or a pineapple, save your money for more piss. I'll try that next time, but it might not be the best outcome for me to handle cooking under drunken state. It works fine, I've only left the fry pan on once in many, many decades. That was last week, I think it's age rather than alcohol related. :-/ think nothing of it, we're all allowed to make a mistake once. That's not like me though. I'm a bit particular, I won's say pedantic, that's Old Greg's humourous domain. I was quietly a bit peeved about it. edit: Are we any closer to a CBA?

well I've already said I'm very happy to see one conducted. Despite your enjoyment of bacon and eggs, I'd say variety is always a benefit. Before migration it was only bacon and eggs. Now we have a choice of bacon and eggs, falafel, kebab. Fantastic!

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:51pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:36pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:33pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:21pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:16pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 9:05pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:56pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:51pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:48pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:43pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:38pm: Take that back!!!!  I drink myself plenty to need a kebab before bed, and bacon and eggs in the morning. Thank you very much!! See that proves it, you can actually leave the house! It's very much a stumbling back to the house.  The kebab shop is about 250m outside, and that sometimes takes about 45 minutes. I'd have to stumble 2k each way only to find it's not open. Bacon and eggs... Uber! I'm not sure that's an option here but even if it was that would mean less money to buy bacon and eggs and more beer. Grab y'self 2 doz eggs, free range, a kilo of full rasher Aussie bacon, perhaps a couple of tomatoes or a pineapple, save your money for more piss. I'll try that next time, but it might not be the best outcome for me to handle cooking under drunken state. It works fine, I've only left the fry pan on once in many, many decades. That was last week, I think it's age rather than alcohol related. :-/ think nothing of it, we're all allowed to make a mistake once. That's not like me though. I'm a bit particular, I won's say pedantic, that's Old Greg's humourous domain. I was quietly a bit peeved about it. edit: Are we any closer to a CBA? well I've already said I'm very happy to see one conducted. Despite your enjoyment of bacon and eggs, I'd say variety is always a benefit. Before migration it was only bacon and eggs. Now we have a choice of bacon and eggs, falafel, kebab. Fantastic!

Yeah, but I can make a kebab without importing a teacher. How did Russia get the bomb?

Setanta wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:06pm:

Yeah, but I can make a kebab without importing a teacher. How did Russia get the bomb?

But the kebab will never be as good without the masters making it. And hence the kebab shop would never sell kebabs. And thus no more benefit to the economy.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:14pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:06pm: Yeah, but I can make a kebab without importing a teacher. How did Russia get the bomb? But the kebab will never be as good without the masters making it. And hence the kebab shop would never sell kebabs. And thus no more benefit to the economy.

But not every Leb is a master. ;)

Setanta wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:21pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:14pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:06pm: Yeah, but I can make a kebab without importing a teacher. How did Russia get the bomb? But the kebab will never be as good without the masters making it. And hence the kebab shop would never sell kebabs. And thus no more benefit to the economy. But not every Leb is a master. ;)

but you need waiters, cash register workers, dish cleaners, etc.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:41pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:21pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:14pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:06pm: Yeah, but I can make a kebab without importing a teacher. How did Russia get the bomb? But the kebab will never be as good without the masters making it. And hence the kebab shop would never sell kebabs. And thus no more benefit to the economy. But not every Leb is a master. ;) but you need waiters, cash register workers, dish cleaners, etc.

I volunteer to to that 3 days a week. I don't need to be a Leb to do it.

Setanta wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:43pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:41pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:21pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:14pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:06pm: Yeah, but I can make a kebab without importing a teacher. How did Russia get the bomb? But the kebab will never be as good without the masters making it. And hence the kebab shop would never sell kebabs. And thus no more benefit to the economy. But not every Leb is a master. ;) but you need waiters, cash register workers, dish cleaners, etc. I volunteer to to that 3 days a week. I don't need to be a Leb to do it.

but you're a nice, decent person, and nice people are a minority. For where there is no Setanta, we need a Leb to do it.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:50pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:43pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:41pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:21pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:14pm: Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:06pm: Yeah, but I can make a kebab without importing a teacher. How did Russia get the bomb? But the kebab will never be as good without the masters making it. And hence the kebab shop would never sell kebabs. And thus no more benefit to the economy. But not every Leb is a master. ;) but you need waiters, cash register workers, dish cleaners, etc. I volunteer to to that 3 days a week. I don't need to be a Leb to do it. but you're a nice, decent person, and nice people are a minority. For where there is no Setanta, we need a Leb to do it.

;D

What can I say, well said.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:30pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:21pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:15pm: Soren wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 8:05pm: Have Muslim immigrants ANYWHERE in the non-Muslim wold boosted the economy, ever? Australia US UK India Canada New Zealand Perhaps we can do a cost/benefit analysis. I'd be happy to see one. Perhaps it will put Soren's mind at ease? Come on people! The very fact that the kebab has become the staple drunken food in Australia is enough of a cost benefit analysis to show that there is a net benefit of migration. ;)

Since when do you need Muslims to make kebab?  You can look up any recipe in a cook book or on the internet.


Typically, the only 'benefit' you guys can ever think of is a dish. Anything else??

What the West needs is free thinkers, not people who blindly follow superstition, tribalism, and pay tribute to ancient scripture just because their people did.

Give me a break...I have stated already that 85% of refugees have their hand out to Centrelink 5 years later, that's you the taxpayer dum dums...so stop banging on and have a think about what I have stated.

Soren wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 8:02am:

Typically, the only 'benefit' you guys can ever think of is a dish. Anything else??

Just anecdotal, but I've had cause to visit many doctors over the last few years, and there seems to be an overrepresentation of muslim doctors - or at least doctors with muslim names. I'd be interested to see some figures on how much our health system is reliant on importing doctors from places like India and Pakistan.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 5:45pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 22nd, 2016 at 8:02am: Typically, the only 'benefit' you guys can ever think of is a dish. Anything else?? Just anecdotal, but I've had cause to visit many doctors over the last few years, and there seems to be an overrepresentation of muslim doctors - or at least doctors with muslim names. I'd be interested to see some figures on how much our health system is reliant on importing doctors from places like India and Pakistan.

I'd not be at all surprised to see that the numbers are indicative of many of the kind you refer to.  Luckily, I'm in pretty good health, but whenever I have gone to the local Bulk Billing Mob.....almost invariably, I am seen by an overseas trained quack, not necessarily Indian or Pakistani but certainly including them.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 5:45pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 22nd, 2016 at 8:02am: Typically, the only 'benefit' you guys can ever think of is a dish. Anything else?? Just anecdotal, but I've had cause to visit many doctors over the last few years, and there seems to be an overrepresentation of muslim doctors - or at least doctors with muslim names. I'd be interested to see some figures on how much our health system is reliant on importing doctors from places like India and Pakistan.

You live in a ghetto, pal.

I would not accept treatment from an Indian or Arab or Asian doctor UNLESS they were trained in Australia, UK, Canada, US, NZ or Europe west of the Danube.


Muslim, Chinese, Indians, Asians etc -  I would not consult them unless they have been practicing in Australia for decades. 

Rule of thumb - if they have an Aussie or UK accent = OK. Efnik accent =  no, thanks.

red baron wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 5:28pm:

Give me a break...I have stated already that 85% of refugees have their hand out to Centrelink 5 years later, that's you the taxpayer dum dums...so stop banging on and have a think about what I have stated.

Its a lie  from your Nazi newsletters. You have no evidence.

Soren wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 8:26pm:

I would not accept treatment from an Indian or Arab or Asian doctor UNLESS they were trained in Australia, UK, Canada, US, NZ or Europe west of the Danube. Muslim, Chinese, Indians, Asians etc -  I would not consult them unless they have been practicing in Australia for decades.

What makes you think they would accept you as a patient?

- Almost three-quarters (74% or 53,843) of working doctors obtained their first qualification in Australia in 2009, compared with 47,930 (or 77% of working doctors) in 2006;
-  In both 2006 and 2009, 3% of working doctors obtained their first qualification in New Zealand (1,639 in 2006 and 2,112 in 2009);
-  6% of working doctors obtained their first qualification in the UK/Ireland in both 2006 and 2009; and
- 14% (8,812) of working doctors obtained their first qualification in other countries in 2006, compared with 16% (11,948) in 2009, a rise of 3,136 between the two periods. This was the second highest increase, behind those that first qualified in Australia.


Visa applications granted for medical practitioners by citizenship country, 2009-10
United Kingdom 757
India 389
Malaysia 317
Ireland, Republic of 184
Sri Lanka 146
Pakistan 107
Canada 117
Iran 72
South Africa 71
Singapore 80
Other countries 688

http://www.hwa.gov.au/sites/uploads/australias_health_workforce_series_doctors_in_focus_20120322.pdf

Soren wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 3:00pm:

- Almost three-quarters (74% or 53,843) of working doctors obtained their first qualification in Australia in 2009, compared with 47,930 (or 77% of working doctors) in 2006; -  In both 2006 and 2009, 3% of working doctors obtained their first qualification in New Zealand (1,639 in 2006 and 2,112 in 2009); -  6% of working doctors obtained their first qualification in the UK/Ireland in both 2006 and 2009; and - 14% (8,812) of working doctors obtained their first qualification in other countries in 2006, compared with 16% (11,948) in 2009, a rise of 3,136 between the two periods. This was the second highest increase, behind those that first qualified in Australia. Visa applications granted for medical practitioners by citizenship country, 2009-10 United Kingdom 757 India 389 Malaysia 317 Ireland, Republic of 184 Sri Lanka 146 Pakistan 107 Canada 117 Iran 72 South Africa 71 Singapore 80 Other countries 688 http://www.hwa.gov.au/sites/uploads/australias_health_workforce_series_doctors_in_focus_20120322.pdf

You have demonstrated that Australia's health system would collapse without foreign doctors.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 3:40pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 3:00pm: - Almost three-quarters (74% or 53,843) of working doctors obtained their first qualification in Australia in 2009, compared with 47,930 (or 77% of working doctors) in 2006; -  In both 2006 and 2009, 3% of working doctors obtained their first qualification in New Zealand (1,639 in 2006 and 2,112 in 2009); -  6% of working doctors obtained their first qualification in the UK/Ireland in both 2006 and 2009; and - 14% (8,812) of working doctors obtained their first qualification in other countries in 2006, compared with 16% (11,948) in 2009, a rise of 3,136 between the two periods. This was the second highest increase, behind those that first qualified in Australia. Visa applications granted for medical practitioners by citizenship country, 2009-10 United Kingdom 757 India 389 Malaysia 317 Ireland, Republic of 184 Sri Lanka 146 Pakistan 107 Canada 117 Iran 72 South Africa 71 Singapore 80 Other countries 688 http://www.hwa.gov.au/sites/uploads/australias_health_workforce_series_doctors_in_focus_20120322.pdf You have demonstrated that Australia's health system would collapse without foreign doctors.

You are EVEN more stupid than we expected.

Australia has about a third more doctors per 1000 population then UK, Ireland, US, and a half more than Korea or Japan.

And they are not collapsing, ya stupid bloody ape.

http://www.statista.com/statistics/266538/oecd-countries-practicing-physicians-per-1-000-inhabitants/

Soren wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:48pm:

Australia has about a third more doctors per 1000 population then UK, Ireland, US, and a half more than Korea or Japan. And they are not collapsing, ya stupid bloody ape.

In your case it would be bevies of phrenologists and psychiatrists. In other cases, closet poms need more medical attention than real Australians.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:17pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 8:48pm: Australia has about a third more doctors per 1000 population then UK, Ireland, US, and a half more than Korea or Japan. And they are not collapsing, ya stupid bloody ape. In your case it would be bevies of phrenologists and psychiatrists. In other cases, closet poms need more medical attention than real Australians.

And to think that you are representative of the tinted demographic.....

What are you? African? Aboriginal? Pakistani? West Indian? What?

Grievous Deprivation of Privacy for countless German etc women......

Just coming from cods' most beloved misogynist here... how little she truly knows...

Soren wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 9:17pm: Soren wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 8:48pm: Australia has about a third more doctors per 1000 population then UK, Ireland, US, and a half more than Korea or Japan. And they are not collapsing, ya stupid bloody ape. In your case it would be bevies of phrenologists and psychiatrists. In other cases, closet poms need more medical attention than real Australians. And to think that you are representative of the tinted demographic..... What are you? African? Aboriginal? Pakistani? West Indian? What?

I am pretty sure he's Asian. He's just mad because he can't go back to his ancestors' lifestyle of arse up in paddy field for 16 hours a day.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 8:30pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:51pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 9:17pm: Soren wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 8:48pm: Australia has about a third more doctors per 1000 population then UK, Ireland, US, and a half more than Korea or Japan. And they are not collapsing, ya stupid bloody ape. In your case it would be bevies of phrenologists and psychiatrists. In other cases, closet poms need more medical attention than real Australians. And to think that you are representative of the tinted demographic..... What are you? African? Aboriginal? Pakistani? West Indian? What? I am pretty sure he's Asian. He's just mad because he can't go back to his ancestors' lifestyle of arse up in paddy field for 16 hours a day.

Ain't that terrible - whitey preventing him from self-actualisation.

Soren wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:05pm:

Have Muslim immigrants ANYWHERE in the non-Muslim wold boosted the economy, ever?

Try the biggest economy in the EU.

http://www.dw.com/en/turkish-guest-workers-transformed-german-society/a-15489210

Soren wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 8:38pm:

I am pretty sure he's Asian.

I am Australian, white, but obviously not a closet pom.