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Title: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by red baron on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 3:39pm

Clive Palmer refinery: Taxpayers face multi-million-dollar bill to clean up Queensland Nickel site

Source ABC Network:

Exclusive by the National Reporting Team's Mark Willacy

Clive Palmer
Photo: Rehabilitation costs at Clive Palmer's refinery could be "upwards of $300 million". (ABC News: Rebecca Trigger)

Related Story: Government puts up $500k for sacked Queensland Nickel workers

Map: QLD

As well as potentially paying out sacked workers' entitlements, taxpayers could be forced to stump up tens of millions of dollars to clean up the site of Clive Palmer's north Queensland refinery if the company cannot trade its way out of voluntary administration.

Key points:
•The clean-up bill at the Queensland Nickel may reach $40 million, Government says
•Opposition claims it could reach $300 million
•Taxpayers could be forced to foot the cost of rehabilitation
•The Environment Department does not hold any bond for the site

Queensland Government sources have told the ABC that the cost of remediating the Queensland Nickel site, at Yabulu, could be anywhere from $25 million to $40 million.

Former owner BHP believed the environmental clean-up cost may exceed $100 million, while the Queensland Opposition said the clean up bill could be "upwards of $300 million".

Opposition environment spokesman Stephen Bennett said taxpayers were in danger of being left to foot the cost of rehabilitation if Queensland Nickel was forced to close the refinery.

Queensland Nickel called in administrators earlier this week, and the state's Environment Department has told the ABC that it does not hold any environmental bond for the refinery site "because financial assurance is not applied to businesses of this type".

"While the state does not hold a financial assurance bond, the company's environmental authority contains conditions to ensure that rehabilitation is conducted in accordance with [department] guidelines," the department said.

The department said there were also specific requirements for Queensland Nickel to rehabilitate the refinery's huge tailings dams, which sit on the edge of the Great Barrier Reef World Heritage Area.

The dams contain high levels of ammonia and other waste.

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said she had asked for a report on the state of the site.

"We've already asked the Department of Environment, which comes under Resource Management, to be looking into that matter. They are taking that as a key issue and we'll be updated on that at Cabinet next Monday," she said.

Plant's closure a 'risk' to Great Barrier Reef

Townsville Mayor Jenny Hill expressed concern that there could be repercussions for the Great Barrier Reef if the plant were to close.

"While the plant is operating we have people on site and part of their role is to maintain the assets," she said this week.

"If the plant wasn't operating there is a greater risk for the reef and the environment."

Queensland's Environment Department said that under Queensland Nickel's environmental authority there were specific requirements for the company to restore disturbed areas so that they were "safe to humans and wildlife".

Part of the structures inside the Yabulu nickel and cobalt plant.
Photo: Clive Palmer's company took over the Yabulu nickel plant in 2009. (AAP)

But the Australian Financial Review yesterday reported that six months before Queensland Nickel went into voluntary administration, Mr Palmer's company decided it did not need to clean up fully around the Townsville plant and only needed to restore the site so it was suitable for "industrial use".

The refinery at Yabulu has had a chequered environmental history.

Last month a magistrate ordered Queensland Nickel to stand trial for alleged breaches of environmental regulations. It is alleged one of the refinery's tailings ponds overflowed last year.

The company has indicated it will plead not guilty to the charges when the case returns to court this year.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Redneck on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 3:51pm

The clean up costs of mine sites should be paid to the government to be put in trust for safekeeping as they earn from the sites.

Half the open cut sites around Australia will never be cleaned up I suspect.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:15pm

Clives wont be thats for sure.. ;D ;D ;D

hows the titanic mk11 going???

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:18pm

cods wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

Clives wont be thats for sure.. ;D ;D ;D

hows the titanic mk11 going???

I don't know cods. Perhaps you can tell us all?

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Lady Lols on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:26pm

cods wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

hows the titanic mk11 going???

Funny thing Cods, the other day on Mythbusters about the movie Titanic, and whether Rose and Jack both could have been saved on that floating wooden panel, rather than just one person....in the end, if a life jacket is tied around the panel so it's on the underneath, is the only way it could have stayed afloat with both of them....
Then it got me thinking, wasn't Clive Palmer doing the Titanic 2, and haven't heard much about it of late.

I often think a name or something relative to an ill fated vessel, kind of gives me that ominous feeling.

Sorry, have changed the subject :)

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:34pm

Sophia wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:26pm:

cods wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

hows the titanic mk11 going???

the last I heard he had run out of money and the plan was still on the table...thats a couple of years ago.. hes a fraud a con man...all talk...look at Coolum resort...does anyone know if its open for business...

from what little I read this man has done more to shut down Qld than any other person... ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by mariacostel on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:53pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:18pm:

cods wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

Clives wont be thats for sure.. ;D ;D ;D

hows the titanic mk11 going???

I don't know cods. Perhaps you can tell us all?

He has already built the Titanic II. Then he called it PUP. Same outcome. Arrogance, mass expense and utter failure.

Enjoying your PUP membership, Aussie?

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:01pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:18pm:

cods wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

Clives wont be thats for sure.. ;D ;D ;D

hows the titanic mk11 going???

I don't know cods. Perhaps you can tell us all?

He has already built the Titanic II. Then he called it PUP. Same outcome. Arrogance, mass expense and utter failure.

Enjoying your PUP membership, Aussie?

I guess your right....see he and Lazarus havent made up..... whatever happened to the Asian guy he hasnt been heard of since...

I would be very worried if I was member of PUP as I am sure their membership fees will have doubled.. and then there will be the massive fund raising.....its a lot to ask from about 25 members... ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:10pm

cods wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:01pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:53pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:18pm:

cods wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

Clives wont be thats for sure.. ;D ;D ;D

hows the titanic mk11 going???

I don't know cods. Perhaps you can tell us all?

He has already built the Titanic II. Then he called it PUP. Same outcome. Arrogance, mass expense and utter failure.

Enjoying your PUP membership, Aussie?

Do you follow any news at all cods? Dio Wang today was reported confirming his support for Palmer. Membership of PUP was free when I joined. I insisted on paying a fee, and was charged either $10.00 or $20.00.....can't remember which.

If he has only about 25 Members, cods, the Party would be de-registered. Do you enjoy just making pure crap up and posting it?

Gives some sort of feeling of having made a valuable contribution to a discussion, does it?

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:34pm

I dont give a poo how many members he has.. they would all be short of a shingle or two...and by now well on their way to claiming a refund...

only really thick people would have ever joined up for more than 6 months...serve them right...they want to go down with the titanic..its their problem not mine..

I bet Lambie and Lazarus are high 5ing each other... what a close call...he wont get elected again... even if he does have the balls to run again.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Secret Wars on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:42pm

Aussie hitched himself to Palmers star imagining he would soon be amongst the movers and shakers instead he has saddled himself to a rapidly deflating buffoon.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:43pm

cods wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:34pm:

I dont give a poo how many members he has..

So why did you post '25 Members?'

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they would all be short of a shingle or two...

More personal abuse....but you won't see it that way, will you, cods.

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and by now well on their way to claiming a refund...

How do you refund 'free,' cods?

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only really thick people would have ever joined up for more than 6 months...serve them right...they want to go down with the titanic..its their problem not mine..

So why even refer to them, codsy wodsy, baby doll, cutesy pie?

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I bet Lambie and Lazarus are high 5ing each other... what a close call...he wont get elected again... even if he does have the balls to run again.

Again....you show how ignorant of the facts you really are. Today's Newspapers up here were reporting his intent to run again. So what does that do to your comment..... even if he does have the balls to run again.

I highly recommend you just not post on matters your have no idea about, so much so, that you have to make up garbage you accuse others of posting here.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:49pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:42pm:

Aussie hitched himself to Palmers star imagining he would soon be amongst the movers and shakers instead he has saddled himself to a rapidly deflating buffoon.

I hitched myself to a Party which destroyed Campbell Newmann and successfully disrupted the cosy little duopoly which is what we have in Canberra.

Whether they are PUP Senators or not now, the presence of Lambie and Lazarus in the Senate (thanks to PUP) took away the absolute power the Libs would otherwise have had in this Country.

If I have got any of that wrong, I look forward to you pointing me in the direction of enlightenment. Go on, have a go Elde Fruit. I am all eyes.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Secret Wars on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:55pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:49pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:42pm:

Aussie hitched himself to Palmers star imagining he would soon be amongst the movers and shakers instead he has saddled himself to a rapidly deflating buffoon.

you ever feel like you have been ripped off? 8-)

Time to find a new star.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:59pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:49pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:42pm:

Aussie hitched himself to Palmers star imagining he would soon be amongst the movers and shakers instead he has saddled himself to a rapidly deflating buffoon.

you ever feel like you have been ripped off? 8-)

Time to find a new star.

Not one bit. PUP has destroyed Newmann's Government and made it not so easy for the Libs to do what they want in Canberra. I'm quite happy with those two outcomes, thank you very much for your so obvious and sincere concern for me.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 7:06pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:49pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:42pm:

Aussie hitched himself to Palmers star imagining he would soon be amongst the movers and shakers instead he has saddled himself to a rapidly deflating buffoon.

you ever feel like you have been ripped off? 8-)

Time to find a new star.

its good to know who the DESTROYERS of this country are isnt it???>.again someone with no substance whatever gets elected.. to Fed Parliament...he gets senators elected thanks to the money he spent...whom we are stuck with for 6 years... they are hell bent on DESTRUCTION>..

I dont thin k they saw out 12 months with little Adolf......they couldnt get away quick enough..and havetn had a good word to say about him since....

some of us could see that long before he got elected....

then there are those who can only think

DESTROY NO MATTER WHAT IT COSTS>>.

just like hes destroying Qld.. >:( >:(

it makes sense to some.. :D

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by mariacostel on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 4:42pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:49pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:42pm:

Aussie hitched himself to Palmers star imagining he would soon be amongst the movers and shakers instead he has saddled himself to a rapidly deflating buffoon.

Newman destroyed himself. Palmer however sent $50M (not all his own money) to end up with one senator who never speaks and one MP too lazy to even attend Parliament.

Worst Political Party ever. PUP makes One Nation look professional and competent.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by mariacostel on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 4:43pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:59pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:49pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:42pm:

Aussie hitched himself to Palmers star imagining he would soon be amongst the movers and shakers instead he has saddled himself to a rapidly deflating buffoon.

you ever feel like you have been ripped off? 8-)

Time to find a new star.

You must be feeling ripped off as do 80% of former PUP voters who have abandoned the party. Its a 1% party now, far less than Family First. In a few years there will be no PUPs left. There is already no PUPs with any influence.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Redneck on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 4:50pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 4:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:49pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:42pm:

Aussie hitched himself to Palmers star imagining he would soon be amongst the movers and shakers instead he has saddled himself to a rapidly deflating buffoon.

Fer Christsake , I cant disagree with any of that!

Whats happening to me?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 4:52pm

Palmer was always a show pony.. it amazes me he fooled so many... but then when I read about what goes on in Qld.. nothing surprises me...they get wound up by polls for gods sakes...

this man waved around a heap of money and they loved it..

all the while they cry .. tax the rich! tax the rich!..

the lefties havent got a clue have they?..

their little rich man is now going to leave them with a mega clean up bill.........if they expect him to fork out he will just say.. take me to court get in the queue..

.he has now put his wife in charge of Qld Nickle...... whats that about????....he only has his foot in the door I guess... ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 5:32pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 4:50pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 4:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:49pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 5:42pm:

Aussie hitched himself to Palmers star imagining he would soon be amongst the movers and shakers instead he has saddled himself to a rapidly deflating buffoon.

Fer Christsake , I cant disagree with any of that!

Whats happening to me?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

sometime it takes GREAT COURAGE to listen to the TRUTH... ::) ::)

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Wolseley on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 5:41pm

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 4:52pm:

Palmer was always a show pony..

Don't you mean elephant?

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by John Smith on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:08pm

I just love all the rightards having a go at Palmer ;D ;D ;D

he was Australia's Savior and could do no wrong when he was in the liberal party :D :D

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:11pm

Wolseley wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 5:41pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 4:52pm:

Palmer was always a show pony..

Don't you mean elephant?

well I was being polite....

and besides I like elephants...and I dont like clive...

I hope he gets smashed...and I bet Newman does as well.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

whats that old saying

he who laughs last

Laughs the longest..

I hope he loses everything.. I dont usually go in for revenge..

but in his case I will make an exception... ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:13pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:08pm:

I just love all the rightards having a go at Palmer ;D ;D ;D

he was Australia's Savior and could do no wrong when he was in the liberal party :D :D

really when was that??

are you comparing him to SLipper by any chance..

palmer was Bjelke toerag...he learnt all his shady shabby tricks from him.. and Joh wasnt liberal.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:16pm

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:08pm:

I just love all the rightards having a go at Palmer ;D ;D ;D

he was Australia's Savior and could do no wrong when he was in the liberal party :D :D

really when was that??

are you comparing him to SLipper by any chance..

palmer was Bjelke toerag...he learnt all his shady shabby tricks from him.. and Joh wasnt liberal.

Until he resigned, codsy wodsy, baby doll, chicken pie, and sweetie toots ~ he was a Life Member of the LNP, and was its major financial backer.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by John Smith on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:19pm

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:08pm:

I just love all the rightards having a go at Palmer ;D ;D ;D

he was Australia's Savior and could do no wrong when he was in the liberal party :D :D

really when was that??
before PUP

are you comparing him to SLipper by any chance..
no, but now that you mention it, I can see the similarity. The right thought they were both great people whist in the liberal party, then turned on them once they leave

palmer was Bjelke toerag...he learnt all his shady shabby tricks from him.. and Joh wasnt liberal.
but Palmer was

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:19pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:08pm:

I just love all the rightards having a go at Palmer ;D ;D ;D

he was Australia's Savior and could do no wrong when he was in the liberal party :D :D

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it............you qld people have different brain waves than the rest of us... we think with the brain in our heads.. not the one in our pants........the point it neither of them are anymore.....

where as most Labs that get the sack are still members of the ALP.. I bet thomo is still there even though he cant afford the membership.I dont particularly care what palmer was he is and always has been... a shyster...making money at other peoples expense....then spending it on toys for the boys....not my type at all... you lefties are welcome to him..if I had to make a chopice him or slipper I would pick slipper.. at least I would know what he would be up too... fingers in the till...

where as palmer... is as cunning as a fox... has anyone ever seen his Financial statements... I know the State Govt hasnt. >:( >:(

a bad dude.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 8:12pm

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I have highlighted the only part of that I think I understand. What does the 'L' stand for codsy wodsy (etc.?) There is a Coalition (of which parties?) to which Palmer made major financial contributions. If they wanted cash, they went to Clive. Ask your special friend and pal Mal Brough.

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where as most Labs that get the sack are still members of the ALP.. I bet thomo is still there even though he cant afford the membership.

Have to give you some credit, codsy wodsy (etc.) It's been a while since you brought 'thomo' in. Pity doing so destroys your own point. He has not been a Member of the ALP for quite some time.

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I dont particularly care what palmer was he is and always has been... a shyster...making money at other peoples expense....then spending it on toys for the boys....

Really? What toys for which boys?

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not my type at all...

I reckon that would be very mutual.

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you lefties are welcome to him..

Palmer is as left wing as I am an eskimo. In fact, he is closer to Abbott than Abetz is on political issues.

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if I had to make a chopice him or slipper I would pick slipper.. at least I would know what he would be up too... fingers in the till...

The difference is obvious. Slipper was charged, convicted and then exonerated of having his fingers in the tax payers till. Palmer has his hand in his own pocket.

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where as palmer... is as cunning as a fox...

He is a very long way away from being dumb, codsy wodsy (etc.) We ought damn him for being clever, successfull and cunning. I know we should.

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has anyone ever seen his Financial statements... I know the State Govt hasnt. Angry Angry

Everyone has. It is a statutory requirement that Members of Parliament make full public disclosure of their entire financial position. I'm not surprised you did not know that codsy wodsy (etc.)

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a bad dude.

Nuke him.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by John Smith on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:02pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

Still.

(ask her what the "L" stands for ... I dare you)

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

reported

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

Still.

(ask her what the "L" stands for ... I dare you)

reported

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:53am

[urlhttp://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-22/clive-palmer-puts-in-millions-for-queensland-nickel-refinery/7108818][/url]

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Last week, the day before Queensland Nickel laid off 237 workers, two of Mr Palmer's other companies, Waratah Coal and China First, applied to become secured creditors, which would give them priority in the event of liquidation. ::) ::)

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and said the administrators would reveal the details at next week's creditor's meeting.

The meeting, which is scheduled for January 29, will give creditors an initial picture of the company's position, so they can later vote on whether to liquidate the company or trade out of administration.

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He has attacked the Federal Government, claiming Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Federal Industry Minister Christopher Pyne have refused to lift a finger.

"For God's sake, Christopher Pyne, the fixer, he couldn't fix this."..

why should he???.... ;D ;D ;D

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It has been revealed Queensland Nickel donated more than $21 million to the Palmer United Party since 2013, including a $288,516 donation in December last year.

There have been reports that administrators were investigating the possibility of recouping those donations, but both Mr Palmer and a corporations law expert said that was not possible.

I think they will find everything this con man owns is mortgaged up to the hilt...

I would be very concerned if he owed me money.... >:( >:(

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by issuevoter on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 7:28am

I am so glad I kept my Palmer United CD ROM which came in the mail a couple of years back. I knew it would have historical interest one day. I just did know it would be so soon.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by red baron on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:05am

I believe in Karma what you put out there will surely come back to you. Often not in the form you expect.

When you look at Clive do you see a happy well adjusted person or some grotesque form heartbeats away from that big attack that will claim him.

clive.jpg (14 KB | 28 )

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by John Smith on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

reported

is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:30am

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

reported

is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

Given the amount of abuse cods dishes out id be amazed if mods actually banned someone for suggesting she may enjoy some wine every now and then.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by John Smith on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:30am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

reported

is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

Given the amount of abuse cods dishes out id be amazed if mods actually banned someone for suggesting she may enjoy some wine every now and then.

I've been banned for it in the past. She has her pet Andrei to protect her.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:37am

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:30am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

reported

is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

Given the amount of abuse cods dishes out id be amazed if mods actually banned someone for suggesting she may enjoy some wine every now and then.

I've been banned for it in the past. She has her pet Andrei to protect her.

Its hardly abuse.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by John Smith on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:38am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:37am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:30am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

reported

is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

Given the amount of abuse cods dishes out id be amazed if mods actually banned someone for suggesting she may enjoy some wine every now and then.

I've been banned for it in the past. She has her pet Andrei to protect her.

Its hardly abuse.

It's not abuse in any form, but that won't stop Andrei.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:33am

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

reported

is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

have you heard of the the

LIBERAL Democrat party

Country LIBERALS

Reform LIBERAL party

Progressive LIBERAL party

the LNP Liberal National Party... ::) ::)

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:37am:

Its hardly abuse

who asked you?...

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31am:

She has her pet Andrei to protect her.

he has banned me more than any other gmod..

get your facts right.....for once.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by issuevoter on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:39am

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:30am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

reported

is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

Given the amount of abuse cods dishes out id be amazed if mods actually banned someone for suggesting she may enjoy some wine every now and then.

I've been banned for it in the past. She has her pet Andrei to protect her.

Her pet Andrei? Jeez you write some dumb things.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:42am

Heres me thinking the LNP meant Lies Propaganda

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:45am

issuevoter wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:39am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:30am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

reported

is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

Given the amount of abuse cods dishes out id be amazed if mods actually banned someone for suggesting she may enjoy some wine every now and then.

I've been banned for it in the past. She has her pet Andrei to protect her.

Her pet Andrei? Jeez you write some dumb things.

have you just discovered that??? ;D ;D ;D ;D

but always PERSONAL you must admit..that part never fails.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:47am

Its time wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:42am:

Heres me thinking the LNP meant Lies Propaganda

nah mate thats the labors

All Lousy Propaganda

your just confused as usual.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by The Grappler on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:33am

Speaking of Clive...... (sorry to interrupt)....

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30640748/palmer-pledges-250m-for-nickel-refinery/

"Clive Palmer says he has put forward $250 million worth of assets for his ailing nickel refinery and is confident it can trade out of trouble.

The businessman-turned-politician says the assets have come from two of his other companies, Waratah Coal and China First, and include "proven" coal deposits.

The companies also applied to become secured creditors for Queensland Nickel just before 237 jobs were shed from its refinery near Townsville.

In an interview with the ABC, Mr Palmer also described the job losses as "tragic" but part of attempt to keep the operation going and ensure the future of 550 other workers at the refinery.

"We're heroes, not villains," he told the ABC.

"I think you'll see it come out of administration stronger, leaner, fitter, ready to go on."

Mr Palmer said there was a nine out of 10 chance the Yabulu refinery would remain open.

The mining magnate said the $250 million worth of assets were needed to keep the refinery afloat although they weren't secured.

He urged the federal and Queensland governments to follow suit.

"I'd just like to challenge the premier and the prime minister to match me, dollar for dollar, to support Queensland Nickel," he said.

Queensland Nickel went into voluntary administration on Monday and has debts of about $70 million.

The Australian Workers Union tried but failed to convince the Queensland treasurer to guarantee a $35 million loan to protect jobs at the Yabulu refinery.

But the state government insists the request couldn't be granted because Mr Palmer wouldn't open his books.

Earlier this week, the federal MP promised to write to every household in the Townsville region to "tell the truth" about what happened with his nickel business, which has donated more than $20 million to the Palmer United Party over the past two years.

A creditors' meeting is due to be held in Townsville on January 29 and it is understood several Australian and overseas firms are weighing up a possible purchase.

The federal government has offered a $500,000 package to help former employees find work."

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:37am

and you believe him???????.....

did you read it closely grap....theres a lot of fine print in there.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by The Grappler on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:55am

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:37am:

and you believe him???????.....

did you read it closely grap....theres a lot of fine print in there.

Let's wait and see - in the meantime there are no other sources of funding (if this is such) coming from anywhere. It's all assets - not sure how that works in nickel foundries.... need to see the fine print as you say... maybe he's saying they can have the backing of these coal reserves of whatever as collateral.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Gnads on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 11:29am

Palmer was just a disgruntled Tory anyway

for the monies he pinched out of QLD Nickel, the dodgy property deals he did using the company, the fact that he won't pay sacked employees their entitlements & has failed to pay their Superannuation since November ...

should warrant criminal charges ....

then there's the 12 million he pinched off his Chinese backers.

The bloke is just a LNP grub with a grudge ....

L oot N P illage

Loot_N_Pillage.jpg (37 KB | 22 )

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 2:55pm

Quote:

Palmer was just a disgruntled Tory anyway

Would you like to know why?

Quote:

for the monies he pinched out of QLD Nickel,

You do understand that as the sole shareholder of that Company, he is legally the beneficiary of whatever the Company earns.

Quote:

the dodgy property deals he did using the company,

What dodgy property deals?

Quote:

the fact that he won't pay sacked employees their entitlements & has failed to pay their Superannuation since November ...

He does not owe them anything. However, even though he has no legal obligation to do so, he is offering up backing of a value of $M250 to get the Company back on track.

Quote:

should warrant criminal charges ....

Don't be absurd.

Quote:

then there's the 12 million he pinched off his Chinese backers.

That has now been dealt with by the Judicial system which found he did no such thing. Sorry to disappoint you with the truth. Sucks, hey.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by John Smith on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 2:59pm

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:33am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

reported

is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

Its hardly abuse

who asked you?...

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31am:

She has her pet Andrei to protect her.

he has banned me more than any other gmod..

get your facts right.....for once.

the LNP isn't a third party that used the term 'liberal' in it's name, it is a merger of the Qld liberal party and the qld national party. Only a drop dead mor on, or a drunk, would claim they have nothing to do with the LNP

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by John Smith on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 3:00pm

issuevoter wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:39am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:30am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

reported

is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

Given the amount of abuse cods dishes out id be amazed if mods actually banned someone for suggesting she may enjoy some wine every now and then.

I've been banned for it in the past. She has her pet Andrei to protect her.

Her pet Andrei? Jeez you write some dumb things.

why? do you think cods is Andrei's pet?

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by The Grappler on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:44pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 3:00pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:39am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:30am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

reported

is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

Given the amount of abuse cods dishes out id be amazed if mods actually banned someone for suggesting she may enjoy some wine every now and then.

I've been banned for it in the past. She has her pet Andrei to protect her.

Her pet Andrei? Jeez you write some dumb things.

why? do you think cods is Andrei's pet?

That would require some heavy petting....... just saying....

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 9:24am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 3:00pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:39am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:30am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

reported

is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

Given the amount of abuse cods dishes out id be amazed if mods actually banned someone for suggesting she may enjoy some wine every now and then.

I've been banned for it in the past. She has her pet Andrei to protect her.

Her pet Andrei? Jeez you write some dumb things.

why? do you think cods is Andrei's pet?

That would require some heavy petting....... just saying....

you are just sticking to your usual PERSONAL ABUSE posts .. and poo stirring ones....all you come for on here is to make trouble. for someone....

not pleasant at all. >:(

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Gnads on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 10:35am

:'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Gnads on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 11:08am

Aussie wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 2:55pm:

Quote:

Palmer was just a disgruntled Tory anyway

Would you like to know why?

Because he couldn't get his own way?

[quote]for the monies he pinched out of QLD Nickel,

You do understand that as the sole shareholder of that Company, he is legally the beneficiary of whatever the Company earns.

Regardless it's unethical ... especially in light of what has happened.

Quote:

the dodgy property deals he did using the company,

What dodgy property deals?

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/mates-rates-resort-deal/news-story/5e8b8f584edcf03660826a8c31389904

Quote:

the fact that he won't pay sacked employees their entitlements & has failed to pay their Superannuation since November ...

He does not owe them anything. However, even though he has no legal obligation to do so, he is offering up backing of a value of $M250 to get the Company back on track.

What with? Unrealised mineral leases/coal projects?

He said Waratah Coal and China First have also given $250 million in assets to Queensland Nickel, which has about $60 million owed to creditors.

Mr Palmer said the assets included "proven" coal deposits, and said the administrators would reveal the details at next week's creditor's meeting.

Until they have their entitlements paid ... which would be holidays, LSL & their superannuation & redundancies then his words mean nothing & he's culpable for the situation. He would have known it was coming yet did nothing.

Quote:

should warrant criminal charges ....

Don't be absurd.

It's illegal not to pay superannuation & leave entitlements.

Quote:

then there's the 12 million he pinched off his Chinese backers.

That has now been dealt with by the Judicial system which found he did no such thing. Sorry to disappoint you with the truth. Sucks, hey.

[/quote]

Bullshyte Aussie

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 11:36am

Gnads wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

the dodgy property deals he did using the company,

What dodgy property deals?

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/mates-rates-resort-deal/news-story/5e8...

Ive got a funny feeling our resident Clive supporter wont believe a word of that link..

I do it tells me I have been right all along...hes a con man would leave Alan Bond with the hillbillies..

do you think Palmer will attend the creditors meeting???>.

these shysters dont usually.....I guess he can always threaten to sue if anyone calls him a bastard... ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 12:46pm

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

Gnads wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

the dodgy property deals he did using the company,

What dodgy property deals?

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/mates-rates-resort-deal/news-story/5e8...

Where is the 'dodgy' of those deals? His Company buys a property and later sells it to him. Where is the problem?

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:39pm

But three years later QNI sold the resort directly to Mr Palmer for $7.9 million, a significant saving for the self-proclaimed billionaire.

The property changed hands in a private treaty, with no public listing on the market.

The resort is just one of multiple properties Mr Palmer has bought from his own companies in private sales.

In a similar deal, Mr Palmer bought his Brisbane CBD offices from another of his companies, Mineralogy Pty Ltd.

The company paid $19 million for the site in 2009, but sold it to Mr Palmer for $15.45 million in 2013.

The transaction details emerge as Mr Palmer comes under fire for QNI donations to the Palmer United Party.

The most notable of these has been the donation of more tha

::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:47pm

[urlhttp://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/clive-palmers-antics-are-damaging-the-state-says-queensland-government/news-story/05b57dcafc584541dc1d13bb739ee3b5][/url]

hes not doing Qld much good either.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 2:00pm

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

Cods did you see the bit where it reports he bought these properties from his own companies?

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Leftwinger on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 2:28pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

Cods did you see the bit where it reports he bought these properties from his own companies?

An inconvenient fact , again :o

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by John Smith on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 2:28pm

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

nothing illegal in that. .. he just changed it from company ownership to his own private ownership. I've done it before when reorganising my own finances etc. Govts happy because in reality the property doesn't change ownership, and still they collect stamp duty

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Gnads on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 9:58am

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 2:28pm:

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

But three years later QNI sold the resort directly to Mr Palmer for $7.9 million, a significant saving for the self-proclaimed billionaire.

So who's copping the loss?

and what are the tax offsets for such?

it's a racket.

The property changed hands in a private treaty, with no public listing on the market.

The resort is just one of multiple properties Mr Palmer has bought from his own companies in private sales.

In a similar deal, Mr Palmer bought his Brisbane CBD offices from another of his companies, Mineralogy Pty Ltd.

The company paid $19 million for the site in 2009, but sold it to Mr Palmer for $15.45 million in 2013.

The transaction details emerge as Mr Palmer comes under fire for QNI donations to the Palmer United Party.

The most notable of these has been the donation of more tha

::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Gnads on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 9:59am

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 2:28pm:

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

So who's copping the loss?

and what are the tax offsets for such?

it's a racket.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 10:02am

Quote:

So who's copping the loss?

Palmer.

Quote:

and what are the tax offsets for such?

I have no idea. Do you?

Quote:

it's a racket.

Because you say so?

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 12:44pm

Here ya go. The horse's mouth.

Link.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 1:35pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

Cods did you see the bit where it reports he bought these properties from his own companies?

at a huge loss.... and the BANKS would own more of those compan ies than he does.

wait and see who his creditors are???????? >:( >:(

he owns NOTHING just like Alan Bond..

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 1:39pm

Its time wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 2:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

Cods did you see the bit where it reports he bought these properties from his own companies?

An inconvenient fact , again :o

HE WISHES HE OWNS THEM.... HE DOESNT THEY ARE ALL MORTGAGED TO THE HILT.... WHICH MEANS THE BANKS ARE FIRST CREDITORS..

why do you think the BANKS wouldnt lend him money for QLD nickel..... why do you think he asked Qld STate Govt to guarantee????????????

a bit hard for some people to work that bit out.. :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 1:43pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 12:44pm:

Here ya go. The horse's mouth.

Link.

$250 mil in paper assets...

then why is he having a CREDITORS MEETING?????....

why has he disappeared?????>..

why is he not revealing his financial records...if he is looking for a $35milll guarantee???????....

whats he hiding??????????

does he really expect anyone to guarantee without any ..EVIDENCE HE WILL PAY..

and is CAPABLE OF PAYING???...

would you guys go guarantee for him???????

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 1:45pm

cods wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 1:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

Cods did you see the bit where it reports he bought these properties from his own companies?

at a huge loss.... and the BANKS would own more of those compan ies than he does.

wait and see who his creditors are???????? >:( >:(

he owns NOTHING just like Alan Bond..

Really. This is a link to what he has cods.

Link.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 1:53pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 1:45pm:

Really. This is a link to what he has cods.

Link.

thats INTERESTS IN...

does it tell you how much he owes on said..

"assets "as you call them?????...

if the CHinese govt doesnt believe him

and our own Banks dont believe him

and your STate GOvt doenst believe him..

good luck with that.
'

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Gnads on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 2:30pm

Quote:
'I'm quite happy to be the last creditor...to get paid': Palmer

;D ;D ;D That's almost as funny as the way you're defending him Aussie.

First you talk about him being the sole shareholder so he can do what he likes with the profits ...

The company is in trouble ..... the receivers are in ....

and now he's one of the creditors? ;D ;D ;D

Too ferkin funny Aussie ... fairdinkum ... last shower & all that ......

His company QLD Nickel of which he is sole shareholder of therefore the owner & solely responsible for it's debt owes rail company Aurizon $27 million alone for rail cartage

he's not a creditor .... he's a debtor.

Like him you're all for smoke & mirrors bullshyte to hide the truth.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by red baron on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 2:42pm

Jabba 'The Hut' lives in the form of Clive Palmer.

Will always remember the piece the media they did on his guest house complex.

His son asked him for the car keys and Palmer chucked them at his feet. His son was managing the complex at the time.

I thought 'that says it all' about that fat slob.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 2:55pm

Gnads wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 2:30pm:

CLIVE A CREDITOR ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

HES ALREADY HAS HIS MONEY OUT OF HIS COMPANIES..

MARKED DOWN PROPERTY...

DONATIONS TO HIS NEW TOY 'PUP'..

WHO'S KIDDING WHO?.

aussie is a member of PUP dont forget..

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 3:11pm

Quote:

That's almost as funny as the way you're defending him Aussie.

I am not 'defending' him. I'm pointing out the facts.

Quote:

First you talk about him being the sole shareholder so he can do what he likes with the profits ...

That's correct. As the sole shareholder he is entitled to. What do you reckon the outcome of any shareholder's meeting would be?

Quote:

The company is in trouble ..... the receivers are in ....

and now he's one of the creditors?

If he has lent to the Company, yeas, he is a creditor of the Company.

Quote:

Too ferkin funny Aussie ... fairdinkum ... last shower & all that ......

So that's water on you. I thought you were salivating that Clive is copping flack.

Quote:

His company QLD Nickel of which he is sole shareholder of therefore the owner & solely responsible for it's debt owes rail company Aurizon $27 million alone for rail cartage

Nah. The Company is solely responsible for its debts.

Quote:

he's not a creditor .... he's a debtor.

Incorrect. The Company and Clive Palmer are separate and distinct legal entities.

Quote:

Like him you're all for smoke & mirrors bullshyte to hide the truth.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 3:34pm

aussie can you send me that link again...I have lost it...thank you.. about Clives members list....

I would also like to see the homes he has listed..

as I notice he has put one home in his wifes names as trustee for his daughter..??..

also how come he was made a director of 3 companies including Qld nickel...in Jan 2015

and then ceased to be a director of said companies including Qld Nickel in Feb 2015... but didnt notify the govt until Dec 2015...

isnt that a bit unusual????...

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 3:43pm

cods wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

Link.

Quote:

also how come he was made a director of 3 companies including Qld nickel...in Jan 2015

and then ceased to be a director of said companies including Qld Nickel in Feb 2015...

I have no idea. Who cares anyway. It is his toy to play with.

Quote:

but didnt notify the govt until Dec 2015...

isnt that a bit unusual????...

Don't know, but I doubt it.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by lee on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:03pm

You have 28 days to lodge change of company details.

http://asic.gov.au/for-business/changes-to-your-company/#timeframe-for-changes

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:05pm

lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:03pm:

You have 28 days to lodge change of company details.

http://asic.gov.au/for-business/changes-to-your-company/#timeframe-for-changes

Yeas...but we are discussing his Parliamentary register of interests.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by lee on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:09pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:05pm:

Yeas...but we are discussing his Parliamentary register of interests.

Sorry, serves me right for not reading all the posts.

'Members are required to notify any alterations to those interests to the Registrar within 28 days of the alteration occurring.'

http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/House_of_representatives_Committees?url=pmi/declarations.htm

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:15pm

lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:05pm:

Yeas...but we are discussing his Parliamentary register of interests.

He won't be the first nor the last in that regard.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:54pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 3:43pm:

cods wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

Link.

Quote:

also how come he was made a director of 3 companies including Qld nickel...in Jan 2015

and then ceased to be a director of said companies including Qld Nickel in Feb 2015...

I have no idea. Who cares anyway. It is his toy to play with.

[quote]but didnt notify the govt until Dec 2015...

isnt that a bit unusual????...

Don't know, but I doubt it.

[/quote]

you should read your own links...

you dont get it do you... it isnt his own business...

when you borrow money.using it as collateral . it it is no longer yours to do with as you please...

what he is doing is not showing his financial reports.. its not listed on the stock exchange so no watch dog....

if you wanted to use your taxi or your home..as collateral to borrow more than your interest in it was worth...and or value of it was worth..

how do you think you would go???..

Palmers business has lost enormous value...not only on paper but in reality..

if Palmer was going to really prop QLd Nickel. up..

why didnt he come across with that BEFORE THEY RAN OUT OF CASH?????>..

he is blinding everyone with his methods.. dont forget he is a SELF PROCLAIMED BILLIONAIRE...

pity some of us dont believe him isnt it???.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:58pm

lee wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 4:05pm:

Yeas...but we are discussing his Parliamentary register of interests.

did you scroll down that Lee... and when you get to Clive click on the little box on the right of his name and you will get a download..to click on...

its amazing....totally amazing....but it doesnt really tell you about his business ethics of which I believe he has NONE>

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 5:06pm

Why does Mal Brough not appear on that List?

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 5:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 5:06pm:

Why does Mal Brough not appear on that List?

it was 2013.. was he there then?.. maybe he hasnt got any INERESTS..

anyway this is a clive thread.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Aussie on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 5:13pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 5:06pm:

Why does Mal Brough not appear on that List?

Ah. Mr Lee's list is an old one. My link is to the current Register.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Neferti on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 11:09am

Queensland Nickel: Clive Palmer 'could be liable' if he acted as QNI 'shadow director', lawyer says

Quote:

Clive Palmer could be held personally liable and face a hefty compensation payout if he is found to have operated Queensland Nickel as "shadow director" while the company was insolvent.

The billionaire MP has warded off accusations he has been secretly running the troubled refinery, maintaining that he retired from the company in 2013 when he entered the political arena.

But Mr Palmer admits he did remain part of an expenditure committee, and signed off on company purchases using an email under the name Terry Smith.

According to corporate law Professor Ian Ramsay of Melbourne University, it is possible for "director's duties" to be imposed on people who are not properly appointed as a director.

"If they are found by a court to be either a de facto director or a shadow director and also found to have breached their duties, that person can be personally liable and possibly be held to pay compensation," he said.

Professor Ramsay said if Mr Palmer was found to have been operating in the capacity of a director of Queensland Nickel, the implications could be significant.

"In particular, important director's duties apply to that person, and if a court finds that one or more of those duties are breached, then personal liability can be imposed on that person."

Professor Ramsay said "director's duties" included the duty to exercise reasonable care and diligence, to act in the best interest of the company, and not to have their company trade while it is insolvent.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-27/queensland-nickel-clive-palmer-could-be-personally-liable-lawyer/7116440

Looks like Clive used a "sock". ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:39pm

Neferti wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

Queensland Nickel: Clive Palmer 'could be liable' if he acted as QNI 'shadow director', lawyer says

Quote:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-27/queensland-nickel-clive-palmer-could-be-personally-liable-lawyer/7116440

Looks like Clive used a "sock". ;D ;D ;D ;D

well he has put his wife in charge what does that say????....what he has done is illegal surely???

if every director can do that whats the bloody point of them leaving in the first place.... >:( >:(

just to fool people ::)........

well nef he never fooled me for a minute.. I can only believe people in Qld especially those in the far north have chopped liver for brains...

to think! thanks to the moronic up there we are stuck with him in parliament......

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Neferti on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 1:04pm

cods wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:39pm:

Neferti wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

Queensland Nickel: Clive Palmer 'could be liable' if he acted as QNI 'shadow director', lawyer says

Quote:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-27/queensland-nickel-clive-palmer-could-be-personally-liable-lawyer/7116440

Looks like Clive used a "sock". ;D ;D ;D ;D

They obviously can't spell either. ROFLMAO

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/gold-coast/coolangatta-residents-are-fuming-that-a-sign-with-a-glaring-spelling-error-is-welcoming-people-to-queensland/news-story/883a47b92efde8137cb51eaccac442c7

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 4:25pm

Neferti wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 1:04pm:

cods wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:39pm:

Neferti wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

Queensland Nickel: Clive Palmer 'could be liable' if he acted as QNI 'shadow director', lawyer says

Quote:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-27/queensland-nickel-clive-palmer-could-be-personally-liable-lawyer/7116440

Looks like Clive used a "sock". ;D ;D ;D ;D

HILARIOUS NEF...
guess theya re going to have a ROYAL COMM inot whos responsible..STate or Council..

GUESS WHAT........ THEY DONT KNOW!

whatever is going on up there we are better off not knowing...

its a simple place for the simple minded... I am sure.

they have to suck it up until the evidence is in..

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:25am

http://www.smh.com.au/business/mining-and-resources/clive-palmers-nephew-in-sights-of-queensland-nickel-administrators-20160127-gmerr9.html

Mr Mensink is personally recorded as owning three homes worth about $1.6 million. He has links to a multimillion-dollar asset via his co-directorship and co-shareholding of property-owning private company Holy Spirit.
The $2 dollar company was listed as purchasing the 1 King Arthur's Court house at Sovereign Island, on the northern end of the Gold Coast, for $9.5 million in March 2010.
The 2420-square-metre property has a sprawling and highly ornate modern mansion with extraordinary views across the Gold Coast Broadwater to Ephraim Island.
Queensland Nickel managing director Clive Mensink.
Queensland Nickel managing director Clive Mensink.
Photos of the property posted on real estate database RP Data reveal it has been lavishly furnished, with vast expanses of marble and huge chandeliers in a grand entrance.
Mr Mensink is a co-director and beneficial co-shareholder of Holy Spirit, the company, with 64-year-old Bulgarian-born Stiliana Sokolova, who is listed in company records as living at a very modest property in Darra in Brisbane's outer western suburbs.
Mr Palmer also owns luxury properties on Sovereign Island.

a nephew following in uncles footsteps.. ::) ::)

how extraordinary.. ::)

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by Gnads on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:12pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 3:11pm:

Quote:

That's almost as funny as the way you're defending him Aussie.

I am not 'defending' him. I'm pointing out the facts.

[quote]First you talk about him being the sole shareholder so he can do what he likes with the profits ...

That's correct. As the sole shareholder he is entitled to. What do you reckon the outcome of any shareholder's meeting would be?

Quote:

The company is in trouble ..... the receivers are in ....

and now he's one of the creditors?

If he has lent to the Company, yeas, he is a creditor of the Company.

Quote:

Too ferkin funny Aussie ... fairdinkum ... last shower & all that ......

So that's water on you. I thought you were salivating that Clive is copping flack.

Quote:

His company QLD Nickel of which he is sole shareholder of therefore the owner & solely responsible for it's debt owes rail company Aurizon $27 million alone for rail cartage

Nah. The Company is solely responsible for its debts.

Quote:

he's not a creditor .... he's a debtor.

Incorrect. The Company and Clive Palmer are separate and distinct legal entities.

Quote:

Like him you're all for smoke & mirrors bullshyte to hide the truth.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Post by cods on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:56pm

Gnads wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2016 at 3:11pm:

Quote:

That's almost as funny as the way you're defending him Aussie.

I am not 'defending' him. I'm pointing out the facts.

[quote]First you talk about him being the sole shareholder so he can do what he likes with the profits ...

That's correct. As the sole shareholder he is entitled to. What do you reckon the outcome of any shareholder's meeting would be?

[quote]The company is in trouble ..... the receivers are in ....

and now he's one of the creditors?

If he has lent to the Company, yeas, he is a creditor of the Company.

Quote:

Too ferkin funny Aussie ... fairdinkum ... last shower & all that ......

So that's water on you. I thought you were salivating that Clive is copping flack.

Quote:

His company QLD Nickel of which he is sole shareholder of therefore the owner & solely responsible for it's debt owes rail company Aurizon $27 million alone for rail cartage

Nah. The Company is solely responsible for its debts.

Quote:

he's not a creditor .... he's a debtor.

Incorrect. The Company and Clive Palmer are separate and distinct legal entities.

Quote:

Like him you're all for smoke & mirrors bullshyte to hide the truth.

The smoke and mirrors are from the hostile and politically motivated Murdoch schmedia empire which has been chasing Palmer for at least three years, painting him in the worst possible light in every scenario.[/quote]

And again with the comedy routine ;D ;D ;D

Palmer has been doing his own painting in bad light just by his actions.

You ought pick yourself another poster boy

[/quote]

aussie rushed to join this motley crew..called PUP.. yep even has PALMER in the party name...well I never!!!

anyway he voted him in..couldnt praise him enough..even when certain things were pointed out...like the 100 people who lost their jobs when he took over Coolum resort...didnt matter Clive was the best thing to hit fairfax and Qld...

now of course he is still flat out making excuses for him.. its all Murdochs fault of Tony or Newmans...

the moment Mitchell Pearce blamed grog he lost me...and its the same with pollies..

the moment its someone or somethings elses fault

total rubbish,... they are not fit for the job...simple really..

I expect more and better from people who put themselves in high places....

..and when they sudden ly think they are untouchable...

that really pizzzzzzzzzes me of...get out you dont deserve what you have..

this bloke is so used to getting his own way by BULLYING by threatened all and sundry they will be sued....is BULLYING by a thug....

I didnt elect him.. I have more respect for my vote....but if you did..

STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR HIM>>