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Message started by gandalf on Jan 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm

Title: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by gandalf on Jan 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm
The subject heading is not what you might think it is - but the opposite.

Terrorists are getting desparate, and this is testament to the success Indonesia - the largest muslim country on earth - has had in keeping a lid on extremism. This attack caused minimal damage and loss of life - thanks to the effectiveness of Indonesian law enforcement and anti-terrorism activity.


Quote:
But contrasting recent events with those of the last decade or more point to a number of relatively positive developments. First, there has been a dearth of such incidents in Indonesia for some time now. There have been tip offs and hints of such attacks often enough, but they have tended to be pre-empted or otherwise neutralised. In addition, the terrorist attacks of the past tended to focus on major hotels, embassies or crowded and larger venues. Back then, unconstrained by effective surveillance, dramatic and devastating acts of barbarity were relatively easy to accomplish. This time, major institutions were not attacked directly. It appears such plotters now find it harder to gain ready access to such places without being screened out.

Earlier terrorist attacks also tended to involve massive explosions. With easier access to the right ingredients, more substantial blasts could be generated and more ostentatious targets could be attacked with relative impunity. The Bali bombings in 2002 and 2005, for instance, as well as the various hotel and Australian embassy bombings in Jakarta involved large explosives intended to kill and maim large numbers. The ones reported on Thursday seem relatively light, resulting in more deaths among the perpetrators of these violent acts than anyone else.

The response from the Indonesian police and security authorities appears to be as professional as one could expect under the circumstances, too. Their conduct demonstrates how they have made significant progress in the last decade and a half. Close collaboration with Australian police, notably through the Jakarta Centre for Law Enforcement Cooperation (JCLEC), which was established with close Australian involvement, has undoubtedly played a constructive role in this regard.

The Indonesian authorities also have been proactive in banning extremist groups like Daesh and arresting those identified as being involved. Similarly, Indonesian Government efforts to monitor and contain travel to and from the Daeshist heartland in Syria have been of a high order.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-15/blaxland-what-the-jakarta-attacks-tells-us-about-terrorism-today/7090290

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 15th, 2016 at 2:52pm
I believe Malaysia is a bigger danger because the Saudis have been spending a lot of money on Madrasahs in Malaysia. Saudi Madrasahs are the cradle of terrorism.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Maqqa on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:25pm
This is shows the success of LIBs "Turn the Boats Back" policy

There's a bottleneck in Indonesia of terrorists wanting to get into Australia

They were promised 72 virgins

Turn the Boats Back has cut off this avenue for them so the only real target left now Indonesia

Congratulations LIBs

Shame on you Greens and ALP

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:33pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:25pm:
There's a bottleneck in Indonesia of terrorists wanting to get into Australia

They were promised 72 virgins


72 virgins in Australia?

Yeah, good luck with that buddy.


Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Soren on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:41pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm:
The subject heading is not what you might think it is - but the opposite.

Terrorists are getting desparate, and this is testament to the success Indonesia - the largest muslim country on earth - has had in keeping a lid on extremism. This attack caused minimal damage and loss of life - thanks to the effectiveness of Indonesian law enforcement and anti-terrorism activity.



:D

You make it sound like a good news story!!!

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by captain spaulding on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:10pm
72 virgins under 15 is a big ask in the muslim world. Under 12 probably is too.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by wally1 on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:17pm
France recognises palestine, france gets attacked.

Indonesia just opened a hospital n gaza, it then gets attacked.

Jews are hard at work.


Jews celebrating 911




Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Lord Herbert on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:22pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm:
The subject heading is not what you might think it is - but the opposite.

Terrorists are getting desparate, and this is testament to the success Indonesia - the largest muslim country on earth - has had in keeping a lid on extremism. This attack caused minimal damage and loss of life - thanks to the effectiveness of Indonesian law enforcement and anti-terrorism activity.


What utter nonsense.

It's testament to the stupidity of the Indonesian government for allowing those who went to fight with ISIS back into the country again.

These 14 terrorists started their activities in a part of Jakarta known to be frequented by foreign tourists.


Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Maqqa on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:34pm

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:10pm:
72 virgins under 15 is a big ask in the muslim world. Under 12 probably is too.


Aisha was 6 when she when she married Muhammad

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Maqqa on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:25pm:
There's a bottleneck in Indonesia of terrorists wanting to get into Australia

They were promised 72 virgins


72 virgins in Australia?

Yeah, good luck with that buddy.


That's why Muhammad married a 6 years old

Muzzies will follow the words and deeds of Muhammad to the letter. So Australian kindergarten is a matrimonial pasture for radical muzzies looking for virgins

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Soren on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:50pm

wally1 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
France recognises palestine, france gets attacked.

Indonesia just opened a hospital n gaza, it then gets attacked.

Jews are hard at work.


Jews celebrating 911




:D :D :D

You will no doubt will tell us how Israel has benefitted from these events.




Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Karnal on Jan 15th, 2016 at 6:04pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:22pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm:
The subject heading is not what you might think it is - but the opposite.

Terrorists are getting desparate, and this is testament to the success Indonesia - the largest muslim country on earth - has had in keeping a lid on extremism. This attack caused minimal damage and loss of life - thanks to the effectiveness of Indonesian law enforcement and anti-terrorism activity.


What utter nonsense.

It's testament to the stupidity of the Indonesian government for allowing those who went to fight with ISIS back into the country again.

These 14 terrorists started their activities in a part of Jakarta known to be frequented by foreign tourists.


Good point, Herbie. Indonesia needs to.ban Islam too.

Ban them. Kill them.

Oh - we can’t. They. killed themselves.

We’ll have to nuke them.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by wally1 on Jan 15th, 2016 at 6:05pm

Soren wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:50pm:

wally1 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
France recognises palestine, france gets attacked.

Indonesia just opened a hospital n gaza, it then gets attacked.

Jews are hard at work.


Jews celebrating 911




:D :D :D

You will no doubt will tell us how Israel has benefitted from these events.


Ask your mate Netanyahu,he mentions that sept 11 was good for israel

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by freediver on Jan 15th, 2016 at 7:52pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm:
The subject heading is not what you might think it is - but the opposite.

Terrorists are getting desparate, and this is testament to the success Indonesia - the largest muslim country on earth - has had in keeping a lid on extremism. This attack caused minimal damage and loss of life - thanks to the effectiveness of Indonesian law enforcement and anti-terrorism activity.


Quote:
But contrasting recent events with those of the last decade or more point to a number of relatively positive developments. First, there has been a dearth of such incidents in Indonesia for some time now. There have been tip offs and hints of such attacks often enough, but they have tended to be pre-empted or otherwise neutralised. In addition, the terrorist attacks of the past tended to focus on major hotels, embassies or crowded and larger venues. Back then, unconstrained by effective surveillance, dramatic and devastating acts of barbarity were relatively easy to accomplish. This time, major institutions were not attacked directly. It appears such plotters now find it harder to gain ready access to such places without being screened out.

Earlier terrorist attacks also tended to involve massive explosions. With easier access to the right ingredients, more substantial blasts could be generated and more ostentatious targets could be attacked with relative impunity. The Bali bombings in 2002 and 2005, for instance, as well as the various hotel and Australian embassy bombings in Jakarta involved large explosives intended to kill and maim large numbers. The ones reported on Thursday seem relatively light, resulting in more deaths among the perpetrators of these violent acts than anyone else.

The response from the Indonesian police and security authorities appears to be as professional as one could expect under the circumstances, too. Their conduct demonstrates how they have made significant progress in the last decade and a half. Close collaboration with Australian police, notably through the Jakarta Centre for Law Enforcement Cooperation (JCLEC), which was established with close Australian involvement, has undoubtedly played a constructive role in this regard.

The Indonesian authorities also have been proactive in banning extremist groups like Daesh and arresting those identified as being involved. Similarly, Indonesian Government efforts to monitor and contain travel to and from the Daeshist heartland in Syria have been of a high order.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-15/blaxland-what-the-jakarta-attacks-tells-us-about-terrorism-today/7090290


I agree with you on the terrorism front. It has all been downhill since 9/11.

However, ISIS has changed the game and is on a far bigger scale than 9/11. If and when we do defeat it, the terrorism is likely to pick up again. Or they will just carve out a Caliphate somewhere else.

The terrorist attacks have also become more focused on freedom of speech. After 9/11, people were bewildered. The attacks in Europe on the other hand send a very clear message and single out a small target population that is the thin end of the wedge of the Islamic agenda.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:08pm
The militant mussies are too close for comfort now -

Jakarta is only a stones throw away.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:08pm:
The militant mussies are too close for comfort now -

Jakarta is only a stones throw away.


they have always been too close.


Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Karnal on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:18pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:08pm:
The militant mussies are too close for comfort now -

Jakarta is only a stones throw away.


they have always been too close.


Nuke them.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:23pm

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:18pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:08pm:
The militant mussies are too close for comfort now -

Jakarta is only a stones throw away.


they have always been too close.


Nuke them.



De-program them against ultra violence:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvoNBomWBZI



A Clockwork Orange - a cure!

Method:


Quote:
It involved forcing a patient to watch, through the use of specula to hold the eyes open,
violent images for long periods,
while under the effect of a nausea-, paralysis-, and fear-inducing drugs.



Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:23pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:18pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:08pm:
The militant mussies are too close for comfort now -

Jakarta is only a stones throw away.


they have always been too close.


Nuke them.



De-program them against ultra violence:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvoNBomWBZI



A Clockwork Orange - a cure!

Method:


Quote:
It involved forcing a patient to watch, through the use of specula to hold the eyes open,
violent images for long periods,
while under the effect of a nausea-, paralysis-, and fear-inducing drugs.


I agree with karnal, as stupid as he is

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:41pm
Sprint,

Quote:
I agree with karnal, as stupid as he is



So you don't think de-programming will work?

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Karnal on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:53pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
Sprint,

Quote:
I agree with karnal, as stupid as he is



So you don't think de-programming will work?


Sprint’s just trying to flatter me. It’ll never work.

We’ll get a decent fallout shelter, Sprint. Maybe we can start the next ANZUS race.

We’ll do it properly this time, okay?

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
Sprint,

Quote:
I agree with karnal, as stupid as he is



So you don't think de-programming will work?


It'ld be uneconomic, even if it worked.

Just chuck them out by the suburb.
Any terrorism, the govt seizes the mosque it came from.
deports everyone who visits that mosque.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 15th, 2016 at 10:01pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
Sprint,

Quote:
I agree with karnal, as stupid as he is



So you don't think de-programming will work?


It'ld be uneconomic, even if it worked.

Just chuck them out by the suburb.
Any terrorism, the govt seizes the mosque it came from.
deports everyone who visits that mosque.



You can't deport them - no country wants those radical imbeciles.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Soren on Jan 15th, 2016 at 10:20pm

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:18pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:08pm:
The militant mussies are too close for comfort now -

Jakarta is only a stones throw away.


they have always been too close.


Nuke them.

Yeah, go waaay over the top, pretending that no other solutions are possible.

You are quite the Goebbels of these boards -  never honest, always oblique, always in the service of the Marxist-Leninist caliphate.

You are a Marxist-Leninist Muslim - you have absorbed the worst aspects of each ideology - like so many of you your fellow PBs - for there are many like you.




Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 15th, 2016 at 10:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 10:01pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
Sprint,

Quote:
I agree with karnal, as stupid as he is



So you don't think de-programming will work?


It'ld be uneconomic, even if it worked.

Just chuck them out by the suburb.
Any terrorism, the govt seizes the mosque it came from.
deports everyone who visits that mosque.



You can't deport them - no country wants those radical imbeciles.


valid point.

put them on a plane, 'land them safely' in New Herhmald.
They'll love it there.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 15th, 2016 at 10:59pm


New Hermald, Eastern aspect

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Karnal on Jan 16th, 2016 at 12:49am

Soren wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:18pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:08pm:
The militant mussies are too close for comfort now -

Jakarta is only a stones throw away.


they have always been too close.
:o

Nuke them.

Yeah, go waaay over the top, pretending that no other solutions are possible.

You are quite the Goebbels of these boards -  never honest, always oblique, always in the service of the Marxist-Leninist caliphate.

You are a Marxist-Leninist Muslim - you have absorbed the worst aspects of each ideology - like so many of you your fellow PBs - for there are many like you.


Now now, dear boy. Marxist-Leninism is not a race.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Karnal on Jan 16th, 2016 at 12:56am
And I recommend the Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Wayne Dwyer, dear chap.

Try to stay positive. I do feel we can learn from each new experience. Remember, every day, in every way, things are getting bette.and better.

You’ll be fine.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 16th, 2016 at 4:22am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:25pm:
This is shows the success of LIBs "Turn the Boats Back" policy

There's a bottleneck in Indonesia of terrorists wanting to get into Australia

They were promised 72 virgins

Turn the Boats Back has cut off this avenue for them so the only real target left now Indonesia

Congratulations LIBs

Shame on you Greens and ALP

Yessssss... Australia is always the target and the only way for terrorists to get to Australia is via boats. There are no other methods of getting to Australia. No visa on arrival entry for certain nationalities,in fact only way to obtain visa is via arrival by boats. It's the only way. No other ways to get to Australia.


Can you please do us all a favour and just stop talking? Not forever... Unless you want to. 

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Maqqa on Jan 16th, 2016 at 11:10am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 4:22am:
Yessssss... Australia is always the target and the only way for terrorists to get to Australia is via boats. There are no other methods of getting to Australia. No visa on arrival entry for certain nationalities,in fact only way to obtain visa is via arrival by boats. It's the only way. No other ways to get to Australia.


Can you please do us all a favour and just stop talking? Not forever... Unless you want to. 


Only leftwards thinks this is the only way. We on the right believe there are many ways.

We should identify each of these paths and close them off one by one to terrorists

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Maqqa on Jan 16th, 2016 at 11:20am

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 6:04pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:22pm:
What utter nonsense.

It's testament to the stupidity of the Indonesian government for allowing those who went to fight with ISIS back into the country again.

These 14 terrorists started their activities in a part of Jakarta known to be frequented by foreign tourists.


Good point, Herbie. Indonesia needs to.ban Islam too.

Ban them. Kill them.

Oh - we can’t. They. killed themselves.

We’ll have to nuke them.



These two posts is the central problem to why I call leftards stupid

Herbert was directly referring to ISIS fighters. Karnal's reply was with a ban on Islam in Indonesia

It was never about a ban on Islam.

It's the leftards that demonise people with with name calling such as "Islamophobia" every time we talk about the worldwide terrorist network suicide bombers who are muslims.

The only thing that fundamentally link all of these terrorism is they are radical muslims

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Karnal on Jan 16th, 2016 at 11:25am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 11:10am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 4:22am:
Yessssss... Australia is always the target and the only way for terrorists to get to Australia is via boats. There are no other methods of getting to Australia. No visa on arrival entry for certain nationalities,in fact only way to obtain visa is via arrival by boats. It's the only way. No other ways to get to Australia.


Can you please do us all a favour and just stop talking? Not forever... Unless you want to. 


Only leftwards thinks this is the only way. We on the right believe there are many ways.

We should identify each of these paths and close them off one by one to terrorists


Exactly. Look what we did to Johnny Depp’s dogs.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Karnal on Jan 16th, 2016 at 11:27am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 11:20am:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 6:04pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:22pm:
What utter nonsense.

It's testament to the stupidity of the Indonesian government for allowing those who went to fight with ISIS back into the country again.

These 14 terrorists started their activities in a part of Jakarta known to be frequented by foreign tourists.


Good point, Herbie. Indonesia needs to.ban Islam too.

Ban them. Kill them.

Oh - we can’t. They. killed themselves.

We’ll have to nuke them.



These two posts is the central problem to why I call leftards stupid

Herbert was directly referring to ISIS fighters. Karnal's reply was with a ban on Islam in Indonesia

It was never about a ban on Islam.

It's the leftards that demonise people with with name calling such as "Islamophobia" every time we talk about the worldwide terrorist network suicide bombers who are muslims.

The only thing that fundamentally link all of these terrorism is they are radical muslims


Did you read this,.Herbie? This one thinks it’s not about Islam.

I’ll let you deal with it, Herbie.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by issuevoter on Jan 16th, 2016 at 12:37pm
Muslims killed at least 20 at a hotel in Burkina Faso today. Large numbers were killed in Mali in 2015. There was Tunisia, Paris, Istanbul, California, Tennessee, Philippines, and throughout the Middle East where Muslim fanaticism is passed off as sectarian. It is almost a daily occurrence now somewhere in the world. The religion of peace is winning alright. Its just the peace part that is wrong. I think I have said this before at least once: Gandalf, what you may have once had for intelligence is now lost in orientalism.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by The Grappler on Jan 17th, 2016 at 12:37am
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/01/16/burkina-faso-attack/78892196/


A bloody terrorist attack that left 23 people dead in Burkina Faso's capital ended Saturday after national and French security forces raided an upscale hotel in the capital, killing four extremists and freeing 126 hostages.

The dead included people of 18 different nationalities, the BBC reported. Among the freed hostages was the country's labor minister.

Three of the terrorists, believed to belong to a local al-Qaeda affiliate, were killed in the assault on the Hotel Splendid, a popular meeting place for foreign tourists and United Nations staff in central Ouagadougou. A fourth attacker was killed nearby.

The raid to end the siege was mounted after dozens of French forces arrived overnight from neighboring Mali. One U.S. military member was embedded with French forces at the scene, and the United States was working to help provide France with surveillance and reconnaissance help, according to a U.S. senior defense official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, the AP reported.

The attack in the capital of the landlocked West African country began late Friday when the terrorists seized the hotel and the nearby Cappuccino Cafe and set fire to several cars, according to AFP. Burkina Faso’s Internal Affairs Minister Simon Compaore said 10 bodies were found inside the cafe after the siege ended.

The terrorist group known as AQIM, or al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, claimed responsibility online as the attack was unfolding at the 147-room hotel, according to SITE Intelligence Group, a U.S.-based organization that monitors jihadists' online activity.

In a message posted in Arabic on the extremists’ “Muslim Africa” Telegram account, the group said fighters “broke into a restaurant of one of the biggest hotels in the capital of Burkina Faso, and are now entrenched and the clashes are continuing with the enemies of the religion.” Fighters who spoke by phone later “asserted the fall of many dead Crusaders,” AQIM said, according to SITE.

The same group is believed responsible for a similar siege at an upscale hotel in Bamako, Mali in November that left 20 dead.

While Burkina Faso, a largely Muslim country, has largely been spared the violence wracked by Islamic extremist groups in Mali, a Romanian national was abducted last April.

Two of the attackers were women, President Roch Marc Christian Kabore said on national radio, according to the Associated Press.

The French Ambassador, Gilles Thibault, however, gave a higher death toll of 27 and denied any women were among the dead militants, the BBC reported. He also tweeted that 150 people from 18 countries had been rescued.

The attacks follow growing tension in Burkina Faso the wake of a coup attempt by presidential guards that collapsed in September. The newly installed government of president Kabore recently issued an arrest warrant for Guillaume Soro, the head of the National Assembly in neighboring Ivory Coast, for his alleged involvement in the failed coup attempt.

In addition, Kabore broke with the past Wednesday by picking a cabinet packed with ministers who had not served under the previous administration of Blaise Compaore, who was president for 27 years. Compaore went into exile in Ivory Coast after being ousted in an uprising in 2014.

In a separate development, an Austrian doctor and his wife were kidnapped Friday night by extremists in Burkina Faso’s north near its border with Mali, Abi Ouattara, security ministry spokeswoman, said Saturday, the AP reported.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by GordyL on Jan 17th, 2016 at 2:08pm
Lucky this lot was totally inept.

Pretty funny how 2 of them had been in jail for previous offences.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by gandalf on Jan 20th, 2016 at 7:45am

issuevoter wrote on Jan 16th, 2016 at 12:37pm:
Muslims killed at least 20 at a hotel in Burkina Faso today. Large numbers were killed in Mali in 2015. There was Tunisia, Paris, Istanbul, California, Tennessee, Philippines, and throughout the Middle East where Muslim fanaticism is passed off as sectarian. It is almost a daily occurrence now somewhere in the world. The religion of peace is winning alright. Its just the peace part that is wrong. I think I have said this before at least once: Gandalf, what you may have once had for intelligence is now lost in orientalism.


The simple fact of the matter is, if violent Islamism was "winning" most of us would be dead by now. Islamists are relentless and determined, there is no doubt about that, but by and large the peaceful muslims are overwhelmingly dominant and are winning - and if they weren't, you can be sure as hell your life would be completely turned upside down, instead of sitting comfortably at your computer trolling me. I mean, lets face it issue, you've never been affected by terrorism have you? None of us here have, in fact almost no Australians have - its about the most unlikely way to be killed or injured. And yet there are half a million muslims in Australia, if even a small fraction of these decided to do the things people like you are always assuring us all muslims want to do - there would be chaos.

This story is a perfect reminder of how much under the thumb the Islamists really are in most of the muslim world - a few weak targets due to impoverishment and political vacuums in Africa and the middle east notwithstanding. Indonesia is the largest muslim country on earth - and secular democrats reign supreme in every facet of Indonesian society. Thats the real story here.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by Karnal on Jan 20th, 2016 at 5:49pm
But, G, it is total chaos. Google Paki donkey porn.

And some want to let these people in?

Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic.

Title: Re: Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Post by freediver on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 8:43am
Gandalf would you agree that the overall problem is actually getting worse?


freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 7:52pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm:
The subject heading is not what you might think it is - but the opposite.

Terrorists are getting desparate, and this is testament to the success Indonesia - the largest muslim country on earth - has had in keeping a lid on extremism. This attack caused minimal damage and loss of life - thanks to the effectiveness of Indonesian law enforcement and anti-terrorism activity.


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But contrasting recent events with those of the last decade or more point to a number of relatively positive developments. First, there has been a dearth of such incidents in Indonesia for some time now. There have been tip offs and hints of such attacks often enough, but they have tended to be pre-empted or otherwise neutralised. In addition, the terrorist attacks of the past tended to focus on major hotels, embassies or crowded and larger venues. Back then, unconstrained by effective surveillance, dramatic and devastating acts of barbarity were relatively easy to accomplish. This time, major institutions were not attacked directly. It appears such plotters now find it harder to gain ready access to such places without being screened out.

Earlier terrorist attacks also tended to involve massive explosions. With easier access to the right ingredients, more substantial blasts could be generated and more ostentatious targets could be attacked with relative impunity. The Bali bombings in 2002 and 2005, for instance, as well as the various hotel and Australian embassy bombings in Jakarta involved large explosives intended to kill and maim large numbers. The ones reported on Thursday seem relatively light, resulting in more deaths among the perpetrators of these violent acts than anyone else.

The response from the Indonesian police and security authorities appears to be as professional as one could expect under the circumstances, too. Their conduct demonstrates how they have made significant progress in the last decade and a half. Close collaboration with Australian police, notably through the Jakarta Centre for Law Enforcement Cooperation (JCLEC), which was established with close Australian involvement, has undoubtedly played a constructive role in this regard.

The Indonesian authorities also have been proactive in banning extremist groups like Daesh and arresting those identified as being involved. Similarly, Indonesian Government efforts to monitor and contain travel to and from the Daeshist heartland in Syria have been of a high order.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-15/blaxland-what-the-jakarta-attacks-tells-us-about-terrorism-today/7090290


I agree with you on the terrorism front. It has all been downhill since 9/11.

However, ISIS has changed the game and is on a far bigger scale than 9/11. If and when we do defeat it, the terrorism is likely to pick up again. Or they will just carve out a Caliphate somewhere else.

The terrorist attacks have also become more focused on freedom of speech. After 9/11, people were bewildered. The attacks in Europe on the other hand send a very clear message and single out a small target population that is the thin end of the wedge of the Islamic agenda.


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