link

Commercial TV operates as a profit-making business first and foremost.

'Bums-on-seats' in the nation's lounge rooms with people watching the commercials is what makes the industry survive.

The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences.

How do you debate link?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 2:54pm:

link Commercial TV operates as a profit-making business first and foremost. 'Bums-on-seats' in the nation's lounge rooms with people watching the commercials is what makes the industry survive. The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences.

was Oprah white?????

ABC News 24 has a darkie sheila on there occasionally!

SBS?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 2:54pm:

The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences.

Lots of things make me change the channel on TV.

Skin colour isn't one of them.

This person makes me reach for the remote faster than anything else:

http://cdn.mamamia.com.au/wp-content/gallery/carrie-bickmore/39444_carrie_bickmore_the_project_celebrity_style_contemporary_jewellery_5_grande.jpg

And she's as white as they come.

Do you have a link to that American research, Herbie?

I don't care what "colour" they are, so long as they can enunciate English so that you can understand what the hell they are talking about. So many "talking heads" mumble through their teeth.  I turned off the TV News years ago, at least the written news is legible (although Journos seem not to be able to spell these days). Just as well some of us are perfect.  ;)

Nothing to debate for me, I don't watch it, it's not the faces on TV it's the faeces.

Setanta wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

Nothing to debate for me, I don't watch it, it's not the faces on TV it's the faeces.

There's plenty of that, that's for sure.

I also change the channel whenever I see this face:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WgidIz3j41U/0.jpg

Again, very white.

To be totally honest - I can sympathise with Australians who are not your stereotypical White Anglos, wondering why the commercials, and the news readers and reporters - and the players in all the TV shows are composed almost exclusively of white breads.

I think it simply comes down to ratings.

What I would NOT agree with is a government law that forces the TV production companies to start insert so many percentages of token Chinese, token Blacks, token Muslims-with-hijabs, Muslims-with-beards, Pacific Islanders, Indians, and the rest.

That would be Social Marxism to do that.

One of my all-time favourite shows had an all-Black cast - and damned if I can remember the name now.

If it's funny and entertaining - I'll watch it. Some of the very best Stand-up comedians are American Blacks, Iranians, and Indians.

It's all about value.

You may be onto something herb.  Scratch that, you ARE onto something.  Marketers and advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so.  Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public.  People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated.



Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:18pm:

To be totally honest - I can sympathise with Australians who are not your stereotypical White Anglos, wondering why the commercials, and the news readers and reporters - and the players in all the TV shows are composed almost exclusively of white breads. I think it simply comes down to ratings. What I would NOT agree with is a government law that forces the TV production companies to start insert so many percentages of token Chinese, token Blacks, token Muslims-with-hijabs, Muslims-with-beards, Pacific Islanders, Indians, and the rest. That would be Social Marxism to do that.

Probably ratings suicide too.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 2:54pm:

The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences.

Could you post a link to that research please Herbie?

Thanks.

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:19pm:

You may be onto something herb.  Scratch that, you ARE onto something.  Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so.  Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public.  People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated. Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women?

Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too.

Nothing makes me scramble for the remote faster than this face ...

http://www.israellycool.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/waleed-aly.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:21pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:54pm: The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences. Could you post a link to that research please Herbie? Thanks.

Well what do you think?

American TV production companies are knowingly denying their shareholders huge profits by not including more blacks in their soapies etc?

Hardly.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:08pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:54pm: The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences. Lots of things make me change the channel on TV. Skin colour isn't one of them.

Same with me.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:25pm:

... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:19pm: You may be onto something herb.  Scratch that, you ARE onto something.  Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so.  Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public.  People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated. Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women? Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too.

And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule.  There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions.

Neferti wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:09pm:

I don't care what "colour" they are, so long as they can enunciate English so that you can understand what the hell they are talking about. So many "talking heads" mumble through their teeth.  I turned off the TV News years ago, at least the written news is legible (although Journos seem not to be able to spell these days). Just as well some of us are perfect.  ;)

We are a rapidly shrinking elite, Neferti ...  :P

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:21pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:54pm: The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences. Could you post a link to that research please Herbie? Thanks. Well what do you think?

I'm not convinced that skin colour would make that many people turn off.

I thought that you had read some research on the subject, which is why I was asking.

Cosby was very, very popular in America.

Family Matters was too.

Hangin' With Mr Cooper.

Everybody Hates Chris.

Julia ( I used to love that one, when I was a kid).

Good Times.

Fresh Prince.

Lots of black faces there.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:08pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:54pm: The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences. Lots of things make me change the channel on TV. Skin colour isn't one of them. Same with me.

....and me........most often it's the voice........(I know......is someone about to say why not use the mute button????)........

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:21pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:54pm: The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences. Could you post a link to that research please Herbie? Thanks. Well what do you think? I'm not convinced that skin colour would make that many people turn off.

No itd be rare that it did, becausr its not thr point.

55 out of 100 people might prefer strawberry flavour to chocolate, that doesnt mean theyd turn down a chocolate ine if that was all that was on offer.  There might also be times when they feel like chocolate for a change.

  It might appear only a slight preference, but magnify it to the scale of a market of 100 million people, and that slight preference makes a big difference to the nottom line.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 2:54pm:

The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/degrassi/images/9/91/What_You_Talkin_Bout_Willis_Picture.jpg

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:00pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:54pm: link Commercial TV operates as a profit-making business first and foremost. 'Bums-on-seats' in the nation's lounge rooms with people watching the commercials is what makes the industry survive. The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences. was Oprah white?????

Hah Cods! I was going to say exactly that!

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:19pm:

Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women?

Well that's just about the most ridiculous academic paper i've ever read.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There is no possible way to measure it to fit some arbitrary scale. Clearly the person doing the study applied their own preferences to their data.

I can't believe you posted it in all seriousness.

http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2013930/rs_560x415-131030150455-1024.The-Cosby-Show.jl.103013_copy.jpg

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:31pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:25pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:19pm: You may be onto something herb.  Scratch that, you ARE onto something.  Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so.  Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public.  People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated. Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women? Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too. And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule.  There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions.

There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women.

Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add.

Number three on the highest TV ratings of all time:


http://www-deadline-com.vimg.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/roots__131105184638.jpg

having only seen the shorts to both 'Here come the Habibs' and 'The family Law', they both look like they are funny. If the shows live up to the shorts (they rarely do) I'll watch them, if they don't I won't. Skin colour has nothing to do with it.

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:31pm:

There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines,

:D :D :D :D

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/04/bc/1a/04bc1aa0cd763292f52984d2c1410bb4.jpg

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:31pm:

[quote author=Herbert link=1452747260/13#13 date=1452749105] But isolated cases do not make a rule.  There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines,

I realise I'm becoming sickening, but I've seen some lovely young aborigine women during my years in Chippendale, Redfern and Waterloo here in Sydney. Angelic faces when they're not ruined by the demon drink.

One of the best shows on telly in recent years has been Redfern Now. Simply brilliant and filled with plenty of attractive people.

http://files.zapster.it/zapster-media/multimedia/2600/2526/big/26.jpg

John Smith wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:03pm:

... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:31pm:   There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, :D :D :D :D https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/04/bc/1a/04bc1aa0cd763292f52984d2c1410bb4.jpg

Ugly AND more "other" than aboriginal.

All it means is that traits other than physical beauty were selected for by aborigines.  You could say that aborigines  are model feminists in this regard.

Aaand youre all still missing the point, which has been explucitly stated.  I guess you cant get your outrage fix otherwise.  Carry on with thr dog and pony show, but i know that you know the truth inside.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

One of the best shows on telly in recent years has been Redfern Now. Simply brilliant and filled with plenty of attractive people. http://files.zapster.it/zapster-media/multimedia/2600/2526/big/26.jpg

yes. And most of them have more white genetics than aboriginal.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/goodtimes/images/c/c3/Good-Times-1.jpg

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:31pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:25pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:19pm: You may be onto something herb.  Scratch that, you ARE onto something.  Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so.  Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public.  People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated. Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women? Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too. And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule.  There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions. There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women. Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add.

Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced.

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:15pm: One of the best shows on telly in recent years has been Redfern Now. Simply brilliant and filled with plenty of attractive people. http://files.zapster.it/zapster-media/multimedia/2600/2526/big/26.jpg yes. And most of them have more white genetics than aboriginal.

Not true. But you keep telling yourself that. However you want to justify your prejudice.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There is no possible way to measure it to fit some arbitrary scale. Clearly the person doing the study applied their own preferences to their data.

No, that's not correct either.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/fashion/09skin.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/magazine/18fob-Bergner-t.html

Results show that in each culture participants selected women with low WHR as attractive, regardless of increases or decreases in BMI


Quote:

The study, conducted by Harvard University researchers, found the face of an attractive woman triggers the same reward centres in a man's brain as the narcotic. Test subjects were shown images of attractive females, and brain imaging scans revealed that reward circuitry fired off when they looked at comely faces.

A prominent curved forehead, eyes, nose and mouth located relatively low, large eyes, round cheeks and a small chin were among the features men found most attractive.

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:26pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:51pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:31pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:25pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:19pm: You may be onto something herb.  Scratch that, you ARE onto something.  Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so.  Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public.  People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated. Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women? Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too. And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule.  There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions. There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women. Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add. Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced.

I've seen them. Do your own research.

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:29pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:49pm: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There is no possible way to measure it to fit some arbitrary scale. Clearly the person doing the study applied their own preferences to their data. No, that's not correct either. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/fashion/09skin.html http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/magazine/18fob-Bergner-t.html Results show that in each culture participants selected women with low WHR as attractive, regardless of increases or decreases in BMI Quote: The study, conducted by Harvard University researchers, found the face of an attractive woman triggers the same reward centres in a man's brain as the narcotic. Test subjects were shown images of attractive females, and brain imaging scans revealed that reward circuitry fired off when they looked at comely faces. A prominent curved forehead, eyes, nose and mouth located relatively low, large eyes, round cheeks and a small chin were among the features men found most attractive.

And other studies say it's about symmetry.

THe thing is, you can find a study to prove just about any point you want to make. You want to prove that white women are more attractive because you find them more attractive. That You are applying your own prejudice to the analysis of beauty. Some people lool quite average until they smile, for example.

Beauty is thoroughly subjective.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:30pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:26pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:51pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:31pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:25pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:19pm: You may be onto something herb.  Scratch that, you ARE onto something.  Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so.  Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public.  People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated. Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women? Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too. And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule.  There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions. There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women. Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add. Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced. I've seen them. Do your own research.

Lesbians select for different traits than men, but only the preferences of men have any carry over to the next generation. 

In short - it doesn't matter what women find attractive in women, because it has no evolutionary impact.

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:30pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:26pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:51pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:31pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:25pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:19pm: You may be onto something herb.  Scratch that, you ARE onto something.  Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so.  Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public.  People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated. Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women? Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too. And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule.  There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions. There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women. Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add. Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced. I've seen them. Do your own research. Lesbians select for different traits than men, but only the preferences of men have any carry over to the next generation.  In short - it doesn't matter what women find attractive in women, because it has no evolutionary impact.

Not all men think like you, thank god.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:30pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:26pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:51pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:31pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:25pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:19pm: You may be onto something herb.  Scratch that, you ARE onto something.  Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so.  Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public.  People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated. Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women? Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too. And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule.  There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions. There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women. Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add. Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced. I've seen them. Do your own research.

You made the claim. Post or be called a liar. we can even put up  a poll.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:33pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:30pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:26pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:51pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:31pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:25pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:19pm: You may be onto something herb.  Scratch that, you ARE onto something.  Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so.  Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public.  People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated. Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women? Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too. And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule.  There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions. There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women. Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add. Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced. I've seen them. Do your own research. Lesbians select for different traits than men, but only the preferences of men have any carry over to the next generation.  In short - it doesn't matter what women find attractive in women, because it has no evolutionary impact. Not all men think like you, thank god.

I'm afraid research says otherwise.  I understand your reluctance to accept that an objective, universal standard of beauty exists, but exist ir does and preserving your ego by buying into a delusion isn't healthy in the long run.

Personally I prefer strawberry over chocolate even though chocolate is the more popular flavour overall.  The trick is to not care what the herd is doing - again, I understand why you cannot do this.

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:33pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:33pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:30pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:26pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:51pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:31pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:25pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:19pm: You may be onto something herb.  Scratch that, you ARE onto something.  Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so.  Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public.  People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated. Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women? Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too. And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule.  There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions. There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women. Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add. Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced. I've seen them. Do your own research. Lesbians select for different traits than men, but only the preferences of men have any carry over to the next generation.  In short - it doesn't matter what women find attractive in women, because it has no evolutionary impact. Not all men think like you, thank god. I'm afraid research says otherwise.  I understand your reluctance to accept that an objective, universal standard of beauty exists. Personally I prefer strawberry over chocolate even though chocolate is the more popular flavour overall.  The trick is to not care what the herd is doing - again, I understand why you cannot do this.

No. There is no definable standard for beauty. It is quite true that somebody who is recognised as beautiful by a large number of people can be thought to be indeed, beautiful but there is no proven litmus test for why this is.

There are only theories.

And standards of beauty change. Marilyn Monroe wouldn't cut it tin today's Hollywood.

Standards of beauty are also cultural.

This is why i repeatedly refer to your preference. Your preference is based upon that of a prejudiced white male. It cannot be said to be a universal truism.

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:03pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:31pm:   There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, :D :D :D :D https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/04/bc/1a/04bc1aa0cd763292f52984d2c1410bb4.jpg Ugly AND more "other" than aboriginal. All it means is that traits other than physical beauty were selected for by aborigines.  You could say that aborigines  are model feminists in this regard. Aaand youre all still missing the point, which has been explucitly stated.  I guess you cant get your outrage fix otherwise.  Carry on with thr dog and pony show, but i know that you know the truth inside.

I don't think she's ugly and you admit the same when you claim she is more 'other' . If you really thought she was ugly you wouldn't need to make excuses for the attractiveness :D :D

Missing the point? No, I got the point, the point was that you like to make dumb unbiased claims based on your own racist views, irrespective of rhyme or reason.

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:30pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:26pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:51pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:31pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:25pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:19pm: You may be onto something herb.  Scratch that, you ARE onto something.  Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so.  Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public.  People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated. Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women? Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too. And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule.  There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions. There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women. Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add. Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced. I've seen them. Do your own research. You made the claim. Post or be called a liar. we can even put up  a poll.

Get your hand off of it. You want me to trawl google images for pictures of full blooded Aboriginal people to satisfy you? How would i begin to prove they a full blooded?

I've seen beautiful Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

You are probably suffering from the same illness as Honky.

Born to a full-blooded mother. I don't know abou her father but it cannot be claimed she has "more white in her":


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/f4/a4/cdf4a492394f2f911f2384061dafe77d.jpg

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

Born to a full-blooded mother. I don't know abou her father but it cannot be claimed she has "more white in her": https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/f4/a4/cdf4a492394f2f911f2384061dafe77d.jpg

I wouldn't say someone was "beautiful" unless they were a 7+.

She is a 6, at best. 

I expect you probably find it harder to swallow because we're talking about beuty in women, which is a particularly thorny issue for you and feminists in general, but it cuts both ways.  If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, ask yourself when the last time you heard a shiela say she prefers short pudgy men to tall, square jawed men.  Answer - never.

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:56pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:50pm: Born to a full-blooded mother. I don't know abou her father but it cannot be claimed she has "more white in her": https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/f4/a4/cdf4a492394f2f911f2384061dafe77d.jpg I wouldn't say someone was "beautiful" unless they were a 7+. She is a 6, at best.  I expect you probably find it harder to swallow because we're talking about beuty in women, which is a particularly thorny issue for you and feminists in general, but it cuts both ways.  If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, ask yourself when the last time you heard a shiela say she prefers short pudgy men to tall, square jawed men.  Answer - never.

It may surprise you to know Honky that i have been called beautiful many times by many different people. I know you like to imagine me as some fat, ugly lesbian but you'd be quite wrong.

And i think that women is a 10. So does the industry she works for.

And again, another man trying to discredit me because of they way they assume i look.

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:26pm:

Nothing makes me scramble for the remote faster than this face ... http://www.israellycool.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/waleed-aly.jpg

He seems a nice enough fellow, but what I find off-putting about him is that he is a propagandist and apologist extraordinaire when it comes to the subject of Islam and Muslims.

You can guarantee he's got some sort of apologist spiel lined up for his next TV appearance about the Muslim sexual molestation epidemic in Europe. Some sort of mitigating bullshit to pop the Righties back in their box.

There's NEVER any sort of accountability with Muslim Front-men like him. 

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:21pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:54pm: The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences. Could you post a link to that research please Herbie? Thanks. Well what do you think? I'm not convinced that skin colour would make that many people turn off. I thought that you had read some research on the subject, which is why I was asking. Cosby was very, very popular in America. Family Matters was too. Hangin' With Mr Cooper. Everybody Hates Chris. Julia ( I used to love that one, when I was a kid). Good Times. Fresh Prince. Lots of black faces there.

'Good Times' - that was it. I found that to be compulsive viewing.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 5:26pm:

'Good Times' - that was it. I found that to be compulsive viewing.

With Kid Dyno-miiiiiiite!

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:58pm:

And i think that women is a 10. So does the industry she works for.

;D ;D ;D

What proportion of her industry do you think are straight males?

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 5:47pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:58pm: And i think that women is a 10. So does the industry she works for. ;D ;D ;D What proportion of her industry do you think are straight males?

You think the modelling industry doesn't understand the current standard of beauty?

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 5:59pm:

... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:47pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:58pm: And i think that women is a 10. So does the industry she works for. ;D ;D ;D What proportion of her industry do you think are straight males? You think the modelling industry doesn't understand the current standard of beauty?

The fashion industry is run by women and homos, for women and homos. 

The straight male dollar is but a drop in their bucket, and has little relevance to which model they find the hottest. 

On the plus side, feminists needn't worry about being held to "ideals" like this:

http://riseandstand.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/003-anorexic-model-catwalk.jpg

That is not an ideal for straight men.  That is an artificial standard, devised by people whos opinions are irrelevant.   

 

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

Born to a full-blooded mother. I don't know abou her father but it cannot be claimed she has "more white in her": https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/f4/a4/cdf4a492394f2f911f2384061dafe77d.jpg

Give me a break. You claim to have lived amongst aboriginals, shes at least half white.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/09/42/8e/09428e16c7eb4c66fc200ac32f96fe34.jpg
Full blood aboriginal

,,,,,,,,

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:26pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:50pm: Born to a full-blooded mother. I don't know abou her father but it cannot be claimed she has "more white in her": https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/f4/a4/cdf4a492394f2f911f2384061dafe77d.jpg Give me a break. You claim to have lived amongst aboriginals, shes at least half white.

Where did i claim to have lived amongst Aboriginal people? You shouldn't just make stuff up Ian.

And her mother is full-blood. I said i didn't know about her father.

But what would you call her Ian? If you saw her on the street? Would you call her an Aboriginal or would you call her a white person? How do you think she is perceived?

ANd she is darker than that photo shows. She is shot in harsh light in that photo. It is obvious from the reflection on her skin.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:31pm:

ANd she is darker than that photo shows. She is shot in harsh light in that photo. It is obvious from the reflection on her skin.

Why would they want to make her skin appear lighter? 

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:59pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:47pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:58pm: And i think that women is a 10. So does the industry she works for. ;D ;D ;D What proportion of her industry do you think are straight males? You think the modelling industry doesn't understand the current standard of beauty? The fashion industry is run by women and homos, for women and homos.  The straight male dollar is but a drop in their bucket, and has little relevance to which model they find the hottest.  On the plus side, feminists needn't worry about being held to "ideals" like this: http://riseandstand.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/003-anorexic-model-catwalk.jpg That is not an ideal for straight men.  That is an artificial standard, devised by people whos opinions are irrelevant.

SHe's clearly not emaciated like the woman in our photo. Erecting a strawman Honky?

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:31pm: ANd she is darker than that photo shows. She is shot in harsh light in that photo. It is obvious from the reflection on her skin. Why would they want to make her skin appear lighter?

That photo was over-exposed. There are others that show her much darker.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:35pm:

... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:33pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:31pm: ANd she is darker than that photo shows. She is shot in harsh light in that photo. It is obvious from the reflection on her skin. Why would they want to make her skin appear lighter?  That photo was over-exposed. There are others that show her much darker.

I didn't ask how, I asked why?

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:31pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:26pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:50pm: Born to a full-blooded mother. I don't know abou her father but it cannot be claimed she has "more white in her": https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/f4/a4/cdf4a492394f2f911f2384061dafe77d.jpg Give me a break. You claim to have lived amongst aboriginals, shes at least half white. Where did i claim to have lived amongst Aboriginal people? You shouldn't just make stuff up Ian. And her mother is full-blood. I said i didn't know about her father. But what would you call her Ian? If you saw her on the street? Would you call her an Aboriginal or would you call her a white person? How do you think she is perceived? ANd she is darker than that photo shows. She is shot in harsh light in that photo. It is obvious from the reflection on her skin.

I would look at her like that and think she was attractive, its obvious she is mixed but unless she was behaving in an anti social manner I wouldnt identify her as aboriginal.

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:35pm: ... wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:33pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:31pm: ANd she is darker than that photo shows. She is shot in harsh light in that photo. It is obvious from the reflection on her skin. Why would they want to make her skin appear lighter?  That photo was over-exposed. There are others that show her much darker. I didn't ask how, I asked why?

You'd have to ask the photographer why he or she wanted to over-expose the photo. They do that sometimes.

I know you are trying to look for some racist agenda but that would be a big fail on your part. If they wanted a white woman, they would have shot a white woman.

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:31pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:26pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:50pm: Born to a full-blooded mother. I don't know abou her father but it cannot be claimed she has "more white in her": https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/f4/a4/cdf4a492394f2f911f2384061dafe77d.jpg Give me a break. You claim to have lived amongst aboriginals, shes at least half white. Where did i claim to have lived amongst Aboriginal people? You shouldn't just make stuff up Ian. And her mother is full-blood. I said i didn't know about her father. But what would you call her Ian? If you saw her on the street? Would you call her an Aboriginal or would you call her a white person? How do you think she is perceived? ANd she is darker than that photo shows. She is shot in harsh light in that photo. It is obvious from the reflection on her skin. I would look at her like that and think she was attractive, its obvious she is mixed but unless she was behaving in an anti social manner I wouldnt identify her as aboriginal.

Unless she was acting in an ati-social manner?

You're just a pig-ignorant racist, like Honky.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

You'd have to ask the photographer why he or she wanted to over-expose the photo. They do that sometimes.

Yeah true.

They might have done it because they wanted her to look worse.  They do that sometimes.

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:40pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:38pm: You'd have to ask the photographer why he or she wanted to over-expose the photo. They do that sometimes. Yeah true. They might have done it because they wanted her to look worse.  They do that sometimes.

Sometimes it's for less sinister reasons, like making the eyes 'pop'.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:40pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:37pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:31pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:26pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:50pm: Born to a full-blooded mother. I don't know abou her father but it cannot be claimed she has "more white in her": https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/f4/a4/cdf4a492394f2f911f2384061dafe77d.jpg Give me a break. You claim to have lived amongst aboriginals, shes at least half white. Where did i claim to have lived amongst Aboriginal people? You shouldn't just make stuff up Ian. And her mother is full-blood. I said i didn't know about her father. But what would you call her Ian? If you saw her on the street? Would you call her an Aboriginal or would you call her a white person? How do you think she is perceived? ANd she is darker than that photo shows. She is shot in harsh light in that photo. It is obvious from the reflection on her skin. I would look at her like that and think she was attractive, its obvious she is mixed but unless she was behaving in an anti social manner I wouldnt identify her as aboriginal. Unless she was acting in an ati-social manner? You're just a pig-ignorant racist, like Honky.

Not ignorant at all. Just observant.

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:41pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:40pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:37pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:31pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:26pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:50pm: Born to a full-blooded mother. I don't know abou her father but it cannot be claimed she has "more white in her": https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/f4/a4/cdf4a492394f2f911f2384061dafe77d.jpg Give me a break. You claim to have lived amongst aboriginals, shes at least half white. Where did i claim to have lived amongst Aboriginal people? You shouldn't just make stuff up Ian. And her mother is full-blood. I said i didn't know about her father. But what would you call her Ian? If you saw her on the street? Would you call her an Aboriginal or would you call her a white person? How do you think she is perceived? ANd she is darker than that photo shows. She is shot in harsh light in that photo. It is obvious from the reflection on her skin. I would look at her like that and think she was attractive, its obvious she is mixed but unless she was behaving in an anti social manner I wouldnt identify her as aboriginal. Unless she was acting in an ati-social manner? You're just a pig-ignorant racist, like Honky. Not ignorant at all. Just observant.

Definitely ignorant. And racist.

Racists are always ignorant.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:43pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:41pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:40pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:37pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:31pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:26pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:50pm: Born to a full-blooded mother. I don't know abou her father but it cannot be claimed she has "more white in her": https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/f4/a4/cdf4a492394f2f911f2384061dafe77d.jpg Give me a break. You claim to have lived amongst aboriginals, shes at least half white. Where did i claim to have lived amongst Aboriginal people? You shouldn't just make stuff up Ian. And her mother is full-blood. I said i didn't know about her father. But what would you call her Ian? If you saw her on the street? Would you call her an Aboriginal or would you call her a white person? How do you think she is perceived? ANd she is darker than that photo shows. She is shot in harsh light in that photo. It is obvious from the reflection on her skin. I would look at her like that and think she was attractive, its obvious she is mixed but unless she was behaving in an anti social manner I wouldnt identify her as aboriginal. Unless she was acting in an ati-social manner? You're just a pig-ignorant racist, like Honky. Not ignorant at all. Just observant. Definitely ignorant. And racist. Racists are always ignorant.

I recognise the antii social behaviour prevalent amongst Aboriginal people. how is that racist to tell the truth? Are you claiming that Aboriiginal people dont commit far more crime in proportion than any other group Mothra? If so thats an extraordinary claim and you will have to back it up, although it will be fun to see you try.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:26pm:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/goodtimes/images/c/c3/Good-Times-1.jpg

That's it. It was top notch entertainment. Good acting, good scripts, lots of funny bits, and some pathos too.

We're at the name-calling, throwing-your-toys-out-of-the-cot stage now are we?

Forgiven.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:46pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:54pm: The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences. http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/degrassi/images/9/91/What_You_Talkin_Bout_Willis_Picture.jpg

I never watched it. Too cute by half.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:47pm:

cods wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:00pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:54pm: link Commercial TV operates as a profit-making business first and foremost. 'Bums-on-seats' in the nation's lounge rooms with people watching the commercials is what makes the industry survive. The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences. was Oprah white????? Hah Cods! I was going to say exactly that!

Great minds think alike ...  ::)

;D ;D ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:50pm:

http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2013930/rs_560x415-131030150455-1024.The-Cosby-Show.jl.103013_copy.jpg

I never found him funny.

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:46pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:43pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:41pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:40pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:37pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:31pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:26pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 4:50pm: Born to a full-blooded mother. I don't know abou her father but it cannot be claimed she has "more white in her": https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/f4/a4/cdf4a492394f2f911f2384061dafe77d.jpg Give me a break. You claim to have lived amongst aboriginals, shes at least half white. Where did i claim to have lived amongst Aboriginal people? You shouldn't just make stuff up Ian. And her mother is full-blood. I said i didn't know about her father. But what would you call her Ian? If you saw her on the street? Would you call her an Aboriginal or would you call her a white person? How do you think she is perceived? ANd she is darker than that photo shows. She is shot in harsh light in that photo. It is obvious from the reflection on her skin. I would look at her like that and think she was attractive, its obvious she is mixed but unless she was behaving in an anti social manner I wouldnt identify her as aboriginal. Unless she was acting in an ati-social manner? You're just a pig-ignorant racist, like Honky. Not ignorant at all. Just observant. Definitely ignorant. And racist. Racists are always ignorant. I recognise the antii social behaviour prevalent amongst Aboriginal people. how is that racist to tell the truth? Are you claiming that Aboriiginal people dont commit far more crime in proportion than any other group Mothra? If so thats an extraordinary claim and you will have to back it up, although it will be fun to see you try.

The anti-social behaviour you describe is prevalent amongst all demographics with limited educational , social incision opportunities and employment opportunities. It is not a symptom of being Aboriginal.

This is blatantly evidenced by the large number of Aboriginal people who do not behave badly.

I don't assume somebody with dark skin is a Aboriginal because they are behaving badly and 'more white' if they are not, as you claim to do.

Which makes you a racist. A pig-ignorant racist.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 2:54pm:

link Commercial TV operates as a profit-making business first and foremost. 'Bums-on-seats' in the nation's lounge rooms with people watching the commercials is what makes the industry survive. The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences.

Dear Herby - did you see the TV show last night about the KKK  ?

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:48pm:

We're at the name-calling, throwing-your-toys-out-of-the-cot stage now are we? Forgiven.

Not at all. Just observations.

And what would i be throwing my toys out of the cot for? I'm running easy rings around you and Ian. I haven't even had a raise in my pulse rate. Getting bored to be honest.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:54pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:54pm: link Commercial TV operates as a profit-making business first and foremost. 'Bums-on-seats' in the nation's lounge rooms with people watching the commercials is what makes the industry survive. The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences. Dear Herby - did you see the TV show last night about the KKK  ?

I saw it. What a bunch of low-brow dickheads. Wouldn't have been one of them with a triple digit IQ.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:54pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:54pm: link Commercial TV operates as a profit-making business first and foremost. 'Bums-on-seats' in the nation's lounge rooms with people watching the commercials is what makes the industry survive. The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences. Dear Herby - did you see the TV show last night about the KKK  ? I saw it. What a bunch of low-brow dickheads. Wouldn't have been one of them with a triple digit IQ.

Yes it seemed to be full of halfwits.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:52pm:

The anti-social behaviour you describe is prevalent amongst all demographics with limited educational , social incision opportunities and employment opportunities. It is not a symptom of being Aboriginal. This is blatantly evidenced by the large number of Aboriginal people who do not behave badly. I don't assume somebody with dark skin is a Aboriginal because they are behaving badly and 'more white' if they are not, as you claim to do. Which makes you a racist. A pig-ignorant racist.

No one claimed the anti social behaviour was a symptom of being Aborignal . only that it is far more prevalent amongst Aboriginal people. I can see how you are "running rings around me" by arguing a non existing premise.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:54pm:

I'm running easy rings around you and Ian.

And it's a joy to watch (despite them being easy targets).

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:58pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:52pm: The anti-social behaviour you describe is prevalent amongst all demographics with limited educational , social incision opportunities and employment opportunities. It is not a symptom of being Aboriginal. This is blatantly evidenced by the large number of Aboriginal people who do not behave badly. I don't assume somebody with dark skin is a Aboriginal because they are behaving badly and 'more white' if they are not, as you claim to do. Which makes you a racist. A pig-ignorant racist. No one claimed the anti social behaviour was a symptom of being Aborignal . only that it is far more prevalent amongst Aboriginal people. I can see how you are "running rings around me" by arguing a non existing premise.

You said, correct me if i am wrong, that you wouldn't recognise that woman who is clearly Aboriginal as Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly.

Bit of a back-pedal Ian?

I know what you said was silly but you have to own it.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:54pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:54pm: link Commercial TV operates as a profit-making business first and foremost. 'Bums-on-seats' in the nation's lounge rooms with people watching the commercials is what makes the industry survive. The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences. Dear Herby - did you see the TV show last night about the KKK  ?

Which channel, Booby?

Hopefully I can watch it on 'catch-up'.

55 percent of the prison population in Western Australia self identifies as aboriginal. They comprise 3 percent of the state population.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:54pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:54pm: link Commercial TV operates as a profit-making business first and foremost. 'Bums-on-seats' in the nation's lounge rooms with people watching the commercials is what makes the industry survive. The American experience has shown that whites on TV is the most successful formula for attracting the biggest audiences. Dear Herby - did you see the TV show last night about the KKK  ? Which channel, Booby? Hopefully I can watch it on 'catch-up'.

Channel 9; It's not really worth it though. It was English made. Guy spent 7 months with a branch of the KKK and uncovered tremendous amounts of stupidity.

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

55 percent of the prison population in Western Australia self identifies as aboriginal. They comprise 3 percent of the state population.

I already addressed that. DO try to keep up.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 6:54pm:

Dear Herby - did you see the TV show last night about the KKK  ?

Relevance?

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:58pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:52pm: The anti-social behaviour you describe is prevalent amongst all demographics with limited educational , social incision opportunities and employment opportunities. It is not a symptom of being Aboriginal. This is blatantly evidenced by the large number of Aboriginal people who do not behave badly. I don't assume somebody with dark skin is a Aboriginal because they are behaving badly and 'more white' if they are not, as you claim to do. Which makes you a racist. A pig-ignorant racist. No one claimed the anti social behaviour was a symptom of being Aborignal . only that it is far more prevalent amongst Aboriginal people. I can see how you are "running rings around me" by arguing a non existing premise. You said, correct me if i am wrong, that you wouldn't recognise that woman who is clearly Aboriginal as Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly. Bit of a back-pedal Ian? I know what you said was silly but you have to own it.

What arent you understanding here? anti social behaviour is prevalent amongst aboriginal people. Behavioural clues give me a hint as to ethnciity, capische? You are twisting and turning here more than an olympic diver. Just admit that Aboriginal people commit far more crime and anti social behaviour than other groups. Why is it so hard to admit the truth?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:54pm: Dear Herby - did you see the TV show last night about the KKK  ? Relevance?

Honky and ian.

Isn't it obvious?

What channel was it on, old boy?

Are KKK women "scrags" Mothballs???

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:00pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:58pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:52pm: The anti-social behaviour you describe is prevalent amongst all demographics with limited educational , social incision opportunities and employment opportunities. It is not a symptom of being Aboriginal. This is blatantly evidenced by the large number of Aboriginal people who do not behave badly. I don't assume somebody with dark skin is a Aboriginal because they are behaving badly and 'more white' if they are not, as you claim to do. Which makes you a racist. A pig-ignorant racist. No one claimed the anti social behaviour was a symptom of being Aborignal . only that it is far more prevalent amongst Aboriginal people. I can see how you are "running rings around me" by arguing a non existing premise. You said, correct me if i am wrong, that you wouldn't recognise that woman who is clearly Aboriginal as Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly. Bit of a back-pedal Ian? I know what you said was silly but you have to own it. What arent you understanding here? anti social behaviour is prevalent amongst aboriginal people. Behavioural clues give me a hint as to ethnciity, capische? You are twisting and turning here more than an olympic diver. Just admit that Aboriginal people commit far more crime and anti social behaviour than other groups. Why is it so hard to admit the truth?

Me twisting and turning? Projection much.

You said you would not identify a brown skinned woman with obvious Aboriginal features as being actually Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly.  What would you describe her as if she was well behaved? More white? A 'dragoon'? Something classy like that?

Just own it. This is getting tiresome.

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:06pm:

Are KKK women "scrags" Mothballs???

Yep.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

Born to a full-blooded mother. I don't know abou her father but it cannot be claimed she has "more white in her": https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/f4/a4/cdf4a492394f2f911f2384061dafe77d.jpg

Samantha Harris.  Her father is of English German heritage and her mother, Myrna Sussye, is of indigenous descent, but I have never seen her referred to as full blooded.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/08/24809E6F00000578-0-image-m-2_1420714646171.jpg

No Asians or blacks here - looks like Herby has a point:


https://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/2015-05/4/4/enhanced/webdr01/grid-cell-28115-1430728933-8.jpg


The cast of Home and Away pose in the awards room after
winning the Logie Hall of Fame Award at the 57th Annual Logie
Awards at Crown Palladium on May 3, 2015 in Melbourne, Australia.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:08pm:

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:06pm: Are KKK women "scrags" Mothballs??? So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Yep.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:07pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:04pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:00pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:58pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:52pm: The anti-social behaviour you describe is prevalent amongst all demographics with limited educational , social incision opportunities and employment opportunities. It is not a symptom of being Aboriginal. This is blatantly evidenced by the large number of Aboriginal people who do not behave badly. I don't assume somebody with dark skin is a Aboriginal because they are behaving badly and 'more white' if they are not, as you claim to do. Which makes you a racist. A pig-ignorant racist. No one claimed the anti social behaviour was a symptom of being Aborignal . only that it is far more prevalent amongst Aboriginal people. I can see how you are "running rings around me" by arguing a non existing premise. You said, correct me if i am wrong, that you wouldn't recognise that woman who is clearly Aboriginal as Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly. Bit of a back-pedal Ian? I know what you said was silly but you have to own it. What arent you understanding here? anti social behaviour is prevalent amongst aboriginal people. Behavioural clues give me a hint as to ethnciity, capische? You are twisting and turning here more than an olympic diver. Just admit that Aboriginal people commit far more crime and anti social behaviour than other groups. Why is it so hard to admit the truth? Me twisting and turning? Projection much. You said you would not identify a brown skinned woman with obvious Aboriginal features as being actually Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly.  What would you describe her as? More white? A 'dragoon'? Something classy like that? Just own it. This is getting tiresome.

Im not disputing I said that. My observation would be based on cultural, not racial issues Is this what you are not understanding? Is all you see skin colour Mothra? Certainly seems that way.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:54pm: Dear Herby - did you see the TV show last night about the KKK  ? Relevance?

They are white supremacists who have forgotten that their president is black.

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:11pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:08pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:06pm: Are KKK women "scrags" Mothballs??? So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Yep.

So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are??

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

55 percent of the prison population in Western Australia self identifies as aboriginal. They comprise 3 percent of the state population.

Precisely. It's a damned disgrace. The Devil makes use of idle hands ...

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:12pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:07pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:04pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:00pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:58pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:52pm: The anti-social behaviour you describe is prevalent amongst all demographics with limited educational , social incision opportunities and employment opportunities. It is not a symptom of being Aboriginal. This is blatantly evidenced by the large number of Aboriginal people who do not behave badly. I don't assume somebody with dark skin is a Aboriginal because they are behaving badly and 'more white' if they are not, as you claim to do. Which makes you a racist. A pig-ignorant racist. No one claimed the anti social behaviour was a symptom of being Aborignal . only that it is far more prevalent amongst Aboriginal people. I can see how you are "running rings around me" by arguing a non existing premise. You said, correct me if i am wrong, that you wouldn't recognise that woman who is clearly Aboriginal as Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly. Bit of a back-pedal Ian? I know what you said was silly but you have to own it. What arent you understanding here? anti social behaviour is prevalent amongst aboriginal people. Behavioural clues give me a hint as to ethnciity, capische? You are twisting and turning here more than an olympic diver. Just admit that Aboriginal people commit far more crime and anti social behaviour than other groups. Why is it so hard to admit the truth? Me twisting and turning? Projection much. You said you would not identify a brown skinned woman with obvious Aboriginal features as being actually Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly.  What would you describe her as? More white? A 'dragoon'? Something classy like that? Just own it. This is getting tiresome. Im not disputing I said that. My observation would be based on cultural, not racial issues Is this what you are not understanding? Is all you see skin colour Mothra? Certainly seems that way.

What would you call a dark-skinned person with Aboriginal features that isn't behaving badly Ian? WHy do you keep dodging the question?

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:12pm:

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:11pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:08pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:06pm: Are KKK women "scrags" Mothballs??? So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Yep. So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are??

Scrag fits.  I don't see how it's sexist to call them scrags.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:05pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:04pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:54pm: Dear Herby - did you see the TV show last night about the KKK  ? Relevance? Honky and ian. Isn't it obvious? What channel was it on, old boy?

13th Jan 2016


Inside The Ku Klux Klan
(Repeat)

    8.30pm - 9.30pm
    Nine

2015 marks the 150th anniversary of America's most notorious white supremacist group, the Ku Klux Klan. Dan Vernon gains access to the extreme organisation that many believe disbanded generations ago.

No Asians or blacks here - looks like Herby has a point:


https://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/2015-05/4/4/enhanced/webdr01/grid-cell-28115-1430728933-8.jpg


The cast of Home and Away pose in the awards room after
winning the Logie Hall of Fame Award at the 57th Annual Logie
Awards at Crown Palladium on May 3, 2015 in Melbourne, Australia.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:13pm:

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:12pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:11pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:08pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:06pm: Are KKK women "scrags" Mothballs??? So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Yep. So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Scrag fits.  I don't see how it's sexist to call them scrags.

The thing that bugs me about you Mothballs is that you are your typical attention seeking female. You chuck on a thread highlighting how hard done by you are. It was absolutely pathetic.

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:15pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:13pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:12pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:11pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:08pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:06pm: Are KKK women "scrags" Mothballs??? So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Yep. So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Scrag fits.  I don't see how it's sexist to call them scrags. The thing that bugs me about you Mothballs is that you are your typical attention seeking female. You chuck on a thread highlighting how hard done by you are. It was absolutely pathetic.

IT wasn't to coplain about "how hard done by" i was. It was to highlight the sexist debating tactics that are used by certain males on this forum.

..... if you can call it debating.

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:15pm:

The thing that bugs me ...

... is goat meat and tree-loppers.

Yes, we've heard all the stories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BMtqqHRvB8

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:16pm:

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:15pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:13pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:12pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:11pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:08pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:06pm: Are KKK women "scrags" Mothballs??? So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Yep. So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Scrag fits.  I don't see how it's sexist to call them scrags. The thing that bugs me about you Mothballs is that you are your typical attention seeking female. You chuck on a thread highlighting how hard done by you are. It was absolutely pathetic. IT wasn't to coplain about "how hard done by" i was. It was to highlight the sexist debating tactics that are used by certain males on this forum.

;D ;D You have a cry about being called ugly and nobody her knows what you even look like. if you can handle insult (after giving it) then don't come on here. Leave the female sook tactics at the entrance.

Have a guess pecca where I got the inspiration for Captain Faulding? It's a  character in a movie other than a marx brothers movie.

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:23pm:

Have a guess pecca where I got the inspiration for Captain Faulding? It's a  character in a movie other than a marx brothers movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBAkBG8raMs

Wrong. Think of John Carpenter. Don't look it up either. I'll know.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:13pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:12pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:07pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:04pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:00pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:58pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:52pm: The anti-social behaviour you describe is prevalent amongst all demographics with limited educational , social incision opportunities and employment opportunities. It is not a symptom of being Aboriginal. This is blatantly evidenced by the large number of Aboriginal people who do not behave badly. I don't assume somebody with dark skin is a Aboriginal because they are behaving badly and 'more white' if they are not, as you claim to do. Which makes you a racist. A pig-ignorant racist. No one claimed the anti social behaviour was a symptom of being Aborignal . only that it is far more prevalent amongst Aboriginal people. I can see how you are "running rings around me" by arguing a non existing premise. You said, correct me if i am wrong, that you wouldn't recognise that woman who is clearly Aboriginal as Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly. Bit of a back-pedal Ian? I know what you said was silly but you have to own it. What arent you understanding here? anti social behaviour is prevalent amongst aboriginal people. Behavioural clues give me a hint as to ethnciity, capische? You are twisting and turning here more than an olympic diver. Just admit that Aboriginal people commit far more crime and anti social behaviour than other groups. Why is it so hard to admit the truth? Me twisting and turning? Projection much. You said you would not identify a brown skinned woman with obvious Aboriginal features as being actually Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly.  What would you describe her as? More white? A 'dragoon'? Something classy like that? Just own it. This is getting tiresome. Im not disputing I said that. My observation would be based on cultural, not racial issues Is this what you are not understanding? Is all you see skin colour Mothra? Certainly seems that way. What would you call a dark-skinned person with Aboriginal features that isn't behaving badly Ian? WHy do you keep dodging the question?

There is no clear racial definiition of Aboriginality Mothra. You only see race dont you?

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:16pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:15pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:13pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:12pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:11pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:08pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:06pm: Are KKK women "scrags" Mothballs??? So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Yep. So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Scrag fits.  I don't see how it's sexist to call them scrags. The thing that bugs me about you Mothballs is that you are your typical attention seeking female. You chuck on a thread highlighting how hard done by you are. It was absolutely pathetic. IT wasn't to coplain about "how hard done by" i was. It was to highlight the sexist debating tactics that are used by certain males on this forum. ;D ;D You have a cry about being called ugly and nobody her knows what you even look like. if you can handle insult (after giving it) then don't come on here. Leave the female sook tactics at the entrance.

Not true. Failed to understand the point, did you?

I'm not overly surprised.

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:30pm:

Wrong. Think of John Carpenter. Don't look it up either. I'll know.

I prefer Rob's clown.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:16pm:

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:15pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:13pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:12pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:11pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:08pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:06pm: Are KKK women "scrags" Mothballs??? So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Yep. So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Scrag fits.  I don't see how it's sexist to call them scrags. The thing that bugs me about you Mothballs is that you are your typical attention seeking female. You chuck on a thread highlighting how hard done by you are. It was absolutely pathetic. IT wasn't to coplain about "how hard done by" i was. It was to highlight the sexist debating tactics that are used by certain males on this forum.

Yet quite often you are the first to use these tactics.

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:13pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:12pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:07pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:04pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:00pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:58pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:52pm: The anti-social behaviour you describe is prevalent amongst all demographics with limited educational , social incision opportunities and employment opportunities. It is not a symptom of being Aboriginal. This is blatantly evidenced by the large number of Aboriginal people who do not behave badly. I don't assume somebody with dark skin is a Aboriginal because they are behaving badly and 'more white' if they are not, as you claim to do. Which makes you a racist. A pig-ignorant racist. No one claimed the anti social behaviour was a symptom of being Aborignal . only that it is far more prevalent amongst Aboriginal people. I can see how you are "running rings around me" by arguing a non existing premise. You said, correct me if i am wrong, that you wouldn't recognise that woman who is clearly Aboriginal as Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly. Bit of a back-pedal Ian? I know what you said was silly but you have to own it. What arent you understanding here? anti social behaviour is prevalent amongst aboriginal people. Behavioural clues give me a hint as to ethnciity, capische? You are twisting and turning here more than an olympic diver. Just admit that Aboriginal people commit far more crime and anti social behaviour than other groups. Why is it so hard to admit the truth? Me twisting and turning? Projection much. You said you would not identify a brown skinned woman with obvious Aboriginal features as being actually Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly.  What would you describe her as? More white? A 'dragoon'? Something classy like that? Just own it. This is getting tiresome. Im not disputing I said that. My observation would be based on cultural, not racial issues Is this what you are not understanding? Is all you see skin colour Mothra? Certainly seems that way. What would you call a dark-skinned person with Aboriginal features that isn't behaving badly Ian? WHy do you keep dodging the question? There is no clear racial definiition of Aboriginality Mothra. You only see race dont you?

http://www.theesportsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/backpedaling34.jpg

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:38pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:16pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:15pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:13pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:12pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:11pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:08pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:06pm: Are KKK women "scrags" Mothballs??? So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Yep. So you whinge about sexist action against women but you personally  excuse yourself  from doing it ? Why don't you start a topic detailing what a stinking hypocrite you are?? Scrag fits.  I don't see how it's sexist to call them scrags. The thing that bugs me about you Mothballs is that you are your typical attention seeking female. You chuck on a thread highlighting how hard done by you are. It was absolutely pathetic. IT wasn't to coplain about "how hard done by" i was. It was to highlight the sexist debating tactics that are used by certain males on this forum. Yet quite often you are the first to use these tactics.

Link?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:37pm:

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:30pm: Wrong. Think of John Carpenter. Don't look it up either. I'll know. I prefer Rob's clown.

You better not have looked that up pecca!!!!!

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:40pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:37pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:13pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:12pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:07pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:04pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:00pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:58pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:52pm: The anti-social behaviour you describe is prevalent amongst all demographics with limited educational , social incision opportunities and employment opportunities. It is not a symptom of being Aboriginal. This is blatantly evidenced by the large number of Aboriginal people who do not behave badly. I don't assume somebody with dark skin is a Aboriginal because they are behaving badly and 'more white' if they are not, as you claim to do. Which makes you a racist. A pig-ignorant racist. No one claimed the anti social behaviour was a symptom of being Aborignal . only that it is far more prevalent amongst Aboriginal people. I can see how you are "running rings around me" by arguing a non existing premise. You said, correct me if i am wrong, that you wouldn't recognise that woman who is clearly Aboriginal as Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly. Bit of a back-pedal Ian? I know what you said was silly but you have to own it. What arent you understanding here? anti social behaviour is prevalent amongst aboriginal people. Behavioural clues give me a hint as to ethnciity, capische? You are twisting and turning here more than an olympic diver. Just admit that Aboriginal people commit far more crime and anti social behaviour than other groups. Why is it so hard to admit the truth? Me twisting and turning? Projection much. You said you would not identify a brown skinned woman with obvious Aboriginal features as being actually Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly.  What would you describe her as? More white? A 'dragoon'? Something classy like that? Just own it. This is getting tiresome. Im not disputing I said that. My observation would be based on cultural, not racial issues Is this what you are not understanding? Is all you see skin colour Mothra? Certainly seems that way. What would you call a dark-skinned person with Aboriginal features that isn't behaving badly Ian? WHy do you keep dodging the question? There is no clear racial definiition of Aboriginality Mothra. You only see race dont you? http://www.theesportsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/backpedaling34.jpg

Thanks Mothra. White flag accepted.

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:37pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:30pm: Wrong. Think of John Carpenter. Don't look it up either. I'll know. I prefer Rob's clown. You better not have looked that up pecca!!!!!

I'm a Rob Zombie fan.

That's why I posted the John 5 clue.

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:46pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:40pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:37pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:13pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:12pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:07pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:04pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:00pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:58pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:52pm: The anti-social behaviour you describe is prevalent amongst all demographics with limited educational , social incision opportunities and employment opportunities. It is not a symptom of being Aboriginal. This is blatantly evidenced by the large number of Aboriginal people who do not behave badly. I don't assume somebody with dark skin is a Aboriginal because they are behaving badly and 'more white' if they are not, as you claim to do. Which makes you a racist. A pig-ignorant racist. No one claimed the anti social behaviour was a symptom of being Aborignal . only that it is far more prevalent amongst Aboriginal people. I can see how you are "running rings around me" by arguing a non existing premise. You said, correct me if i am wrong, that you wouldn't recognise that woman who is clearly Aboriginal as Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly. Bit of a back-pedal Ian? I know what you said was silly but you have to own it. What arent you understanding here? anti social behaviour is prevalent amongst aboriginal people. Behavioural clues give me a hint as to ethnciity, capische? You are twisting and turning here more than an olympic diver. Just admit that Aboriginal people commit far more crime and anti social behaviour than other groups. Why is it so hard to admit the truth? Me twisting and turning? Projection much. You said you would not identify a brown skinned woman with obvious Aboriginal features as being actually Aboriginal unless she was behaving badly.  What would you describe her as? More white? A 'dragoon'? Something classy like that? Just own it. This is getting tiresome. Im not disputing I said that. My observation would be based on cultural, not racial issues Is this what you are not understanding? Is all you see skin colour Mothra? Certainly seems that way. What would you call a dark-skinned person with Aboriginal features that isn't behaving badly Ian? WHy do you keep dodging the question? There is no clear racial definiition of Aboriginality Mothra. You only see race dont you? http://www.theesportsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/backpedaling34.jpg Thanks Mothra. White flag accepted.

If you say so ...  :o

Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly?

Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:59pm:

captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:37pm: captain spaulding wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:30pm: Wrong. Think of John Carpenter. Don't look it up either. I'll know. I prefer Rob's clown. You better not have looked that up pecca!!!!! I'm a Rob Zombie fan. That's why I posted the John 5 clue.

well done!!!

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:01pm:

Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly? Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?

  if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly.

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:06pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:01pm: Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly? Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?   if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly.

So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly?

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:06pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:01pm: Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly? Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?   if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly. So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly?

At the point where you couldnt back your claim that Aboriginals dont commit crime out out of all proportion to their numbers you lost the argument. I have outlined the facts. All you are doing now is what we call a "greggary" i.e. an attempt to use semantics to deflect from the fact that you are and were wrong.

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:15pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:10pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:06pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:01pm: Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly? Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?   if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly. So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly? At the point where you couldnt back your claim that Aboriginals dont commit crime out out of all proportion to their numbers you lost the argument. I have outlined the facts. All you are doing now is what we call a "greggary" i.e. an attempt to use semantics to deflect from the fact that you are and were wrong.

I didn't deny it. I addressed it. Did you fail to understand?

Why won't you answer the question Ian? Afraid it will make you sound like a racist? Too late for there to be any doubt about that i'm afraid.   You may as well answer.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:18pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:15pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:10pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:06pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:01pm: Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly? Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?   if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly. So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly? At the point where you couldnt back your claim that Aboriginals dont commit crime out out of all proportion to their numbers you lost the argument. I have outlined the facts. All you are doing now is what we call a "greggary" i.e. an attempt to use semantics to deflect from the fact that you are and were wrong. I didn't deny it. I addressed it. Did you fail to understand? Why won't you answer the question Ian? Afraid it will make you sound like a racist? Too late for there to be any doubt about that i'm afraid.   You may as well answer.

Ive answered it.  I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Youve lost Mothra, you are trying to prove me a racist, but Im not. Im a cultural and racial realist. You are trying to avoid acknowledging I am right, but thats ok. I always demolish people,in arguments like this, facts are unkind to people who have taken up predetermined stances based on emotion. I never expect an ackowledgement and my ego doesnt depend on it.

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:18pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:15pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:10pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:06pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:01pm: Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly? Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?   if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly. So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly? At the point where you couldnt back your claim that Aboriginals dont commit crime out out of all proportion to their numbers you lost the argument. I have outlined the facts. All you are doing now is what we call a "greggary" i.e. an attempt to use semantics to deflect from the fact that you are and were wrong. I didn't deny it. I addressed it. Did you fail to understand? Why won't you answer the question Ian? Afraid it will make you sound like a racist? Too late for there to be any doubt about that i'm afraid.   You may as well answer. Ive answered it.  I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Youve lost Mothra, you are trying to prove me a racist, but Im not. Im a cultural and racial realist. You are trying to avoid acknowledging I am right, but thats ok. I always demolish people,in arguments like this, facts are unkind to people who have taken up predetermined stances based on emotion. I never expect an ackowledgement and my ego doesnt depend on it.

More posturing. You're a racist. You've proven it.

Now answer the question. You say you have already. I must have missed it. Surely you won't mind repeating it?

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:22pm:

More posturing. You're a racist. You've proven it.

He's actually admitted it.

In a thread, a year or so ago, he proudly owned up to his racism.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:22pm: More posturing. You're a racist. You've proven it. He's actually admitted it. In a thread, a year or so ago, he proudly owned up to his racism.

I can believe it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:22pm: More posturing. You're a racist. You've proven it. He's actually admitted it. In a thread, a year or so ago, he proudly owned up to his racism.

The definition of racist was in question, in  this case i am using yours and Mothras defintiion of   unfailrly  discriminatory towards a person because of their race. you may recall , in the thread where i admitted to being a racist, i also stated that my definition did not involve unfair discrimination.

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:22pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:20pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:18pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:15pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:10pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:06pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:01pm: Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly? Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?   if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly. So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly? At the point where you couldnt back your claim that Aboriginals dont commit crime out out of all proportion to their numbers you lost the argument. I have outlined the facts. All you are doing now is what we call a "greggary" i.e. an attempt to use semantics to deflect from the fact that you are and were wrong. I didn't deny it. I addressed it. Did you fail to understand? Why won't you answer the question Ian? Afraid it will make you sound like a racist? Too late for there to be any doubt about that i'm afraid.   You may as well answer. Ive answered it.  I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Youve lost Mothra, you are trying to prove me a racist, but Im not. Im a cultural and racial realist. You are trying to avoid acknowledging I am right, but thats ok. I always demolish people,in arguments like this, facts are unkind to people who have taken up predetermined stances based on emotion. I never expect an ackowledgement and my ego doesnt depend on it. More posturing. You're a racist. You've proven it. Now answer the question. You say you have already. I must have missed it. Surely you won't mind repeating it?

sure. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics.

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

I never judge people purely on racial characteristics.

unless they're Muslim ..... right? (I'm sure that this is where you'll tell me it's not a race, but we both know that's playing semantics.)

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:22pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:20pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:18pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:15pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:10pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:06pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:01pm: Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly? Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?   if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly. So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly? At the point where you couldnt back your claim that Aboriginals dont commit crime out out of all proportion to their numbers you lost the argument. I have outlined the facts. All you are doing now is what we call a "greggary" i.e. an attempt to use semantics to deflect from the fact that you are and were wrong. I didn't deny it. I addressed it. Did you fail to understand? Why won't you answer the question Ian? Afraid it will make you sound like a racist? Too late for there to be any doubt about that i'm afraid.   You may as well answer. Ive answered it.  I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Youve lost Mothra, you are trying to prove me a racist, but Im not. Im a cultural and racial realist. You are trying to avoid acknowledging I am right, but thats ok. I always demolish people,in arguments like this, facts are unkind to people who have taken up predetermined stances based on emotion. I never expect an ackowledgement and my ego doesnt depend on it. More posturing. You're a racist. You've proven it. Now answer the question. You say you have already. I must have missed it. Surely you won't mind repeating it? sure. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics.

Bit you have already admitted that you do. According to you a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features behaving badly would be an Aboriginal yet a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features not behaving badly would not be an Aboriginal. They would simply be a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features. It would take them behaving badly for you to concede that they were Aboriginal.

I'm not making this up. This is your argument.

Astonishing but true.

..............

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:39pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:31pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:22pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:20pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:18pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:15pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:10pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:06pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:01pm: Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly? Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?   if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly. So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly? At the point where you couldnt back your claim that Aboriginals dont commit crime out out of all proportion to their numbers you lost the argument. I have outlined the facts. All you are doing now is what we call a "greggary" i.e. an attempt to use semantics to deflect from the fact that you are and were wrong. I didn't deny it. I addressed it. Did you fail to understand? Why won't you answer the question Ian? Afraid it will make you sound like a racist? Too late for there to be any doubt about that i'm afraid.   You may as well answer. Ive answered it.  I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Youve lost Mothra, you are trying to prove me a racist, but Im not. Im a cultural and racial realist. You are trying to avoid acknowledging I am right, but thats ok. I always demolish people,in arguments like this, facts are unkind to people who have taken up predetermined stances based on emotion. I never expect an ackowledgement and my ego doesnt depend on it. More posturing. You're a racist. You've proven it. Now answer the question. You say you have already. I must have missed it. Surely you won't mind repeating it? sure. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Bit you have already admitted that you do. According to you a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features behaving badly would be an Aboriginal yet a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features not behaving badly would not be an Aboriginal. They would simply be a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features. It would take them behaving badly for you to concede that they were Aboriginal. I'm not making this up. This is your argument. Astonishing but true.

Not at all . thats your arguement, not mine. I stated i do not judge people only on racial characteristics. You have a problem Mothra, you only see black and white and you only see skin colour. you also have this  urge to define everyone, you wont truly succeed in life until you conquer that.

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:39pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:31pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:22pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:20pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:18pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:15pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:10pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:06pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:01pm: Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly? Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?   if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly. So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly? At the point where you couldnt back your claim that Aboriginals dont commit crime out out of all proportion to their numbers you lost the argument. I have outlined the facts. All you are doing now is what we call a "greggary" i.e. an attempt to use semantics to deflect from the fact that you are and were wrong. I didn't deny it. I addressed it. Did you fail to understand? Why won't you answer the question Ian? Afraid it will make you sound like a racist? Too late for there to be any doubt about that i'm afraid.   You may as well answer. Ive answered it.  I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Youve lost Mothra, you are trying to prove me a racist, but Im not. Im a cultural and racial realist. You are trying to avoid acknowledging I am right, but thats ok. I always demolish people,in arguments like this, facts are unkind to people who have taken up predetermined stances based on emotion. I never expect an ackowledgement and my ego doesnt depend on it. More posturing. You're a racist. You've proven it. Now answer the question. You say you have already. I must have missed it. Surely you won't mind repeating it? sure. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Bit you have already admitted that you do. According to you a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features behaving badly would be an Aboriginal yet a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features not behaving badly would not be an Aboriginal. They would simply be a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features. It would take them behaving badly for you to concede that they were Aboriginal. I'm not making this up. This is your argument. Astonishing but true. Not at all . thats your arguement, not mine. I stated i do not judge people only on racial characteristics. You have a problem Mothra, you only see black and white and you only see skin colour. you also have this  urge to define everyone, you wont truly succeed in life until you conquer that.

Nope. That's your argument. Do i really need to go back and copy and paste all of your posts that say exactly that?

It's nowhere near my argument. You're going to have to try harder than that.

lol.  I knew you'd be here all night. 

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:44pm:

lol.  I knew you'd be here all night.

I've been in and out. I'm working at my computer and am keeping an eye on this place. That alright with you?

By the way, i'm not the only one ... but it doesn't suit your purpose to notice anybody else, does it Honky?

Butt-hurt?

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:32pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 10:30pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:39pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:31pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:22pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:20pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:18pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:15pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:10pm: ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:06pm: mothra wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:01pm: Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly? Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?   if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly. So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly? At the point where you couldnt back your claim that Aboriginals dont commit crime out out of all proportion to their numbers you lost the argument. I have outlined the facts. All you are doing now is what we call a "greggary" i.e. an attempt to use semantics to deflect from the fact that you are and were wrong. I didn't deny it. I addressed it. Did you fail to understand? Why won't you answer the question Ian? Afraid it will make you sound like a racist? Too late for there to be any doubt about that i'm afraid.   You may as well answer. Ive answered it.  I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Youve lost Mothra, you are trying to prove me a racist, but Im not. Im a cultural and racial realist. You are trying to avoid acknowledging I am right, but thats ok. I always demolish people,in arguments like this, facts are unkind to people who have taken up predetermined stances based on emotion. I never expect an ackowledgement and my ego doesnt depend on it. More posturing. You're a racist. You've proven it. Now answer the question. You say you have already. I must have missed it. Surely you won't mind repeating it? sure. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Bit you have already admitted that you do. According to you a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features behaving badly would be an Aboriginal yet a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features not behaving badly would not be an Aboriginal. They would simply be a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features. It would take them behaving badly for you to concede that they were Aboriginal. I'm not making this up. This is your argument. Astonishing but true. Not at all . thats your arguement, not mine. I stated i do not judge people only on racial characteristics. You have a problem Mothra, you only see black and white and you only see skin colour. you also have this  urge to define everyone, you wont truly succeed in life until you conquer that. Nope. That's your argument. Do i really need to go back and copy and paste all of your posts that say exactly that? It's nowhere near my argument. You're going to have to try harder than that.

Ive clearly stated my position. If you wish to scroll back through my posts and attempt to somehow trip me up with semantics rather than debate the salient points then be my guest. i would suggest that neither of us will learn anything from you "doing a greggary"