If this is what an everyday bloke is, then there's something terribly wrong here.

Link?

Picture?

video?

Many things can cause a person to snap and do something out of character.  Maybe the vast predominance of women walking out on their marital relationships through 'not feeling validated' need to share some responsibility.

This society has a lot to answer for with its treatment of men to 'equalise' women.  You can trust me when I say that the day will come when it does answer.

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time - but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

you know so many people are going to feel some guilt over this..........why didnt we see this.....what did we miss.... were we so busy we didnt pick up there was something wrong......

you do ask yourself so many questions..

as hindsight is a remarkable thing..

maybe we are too busy today....we assume a lot...take things for granted....

we are for sure missing something.....

Geoff Hunt killed his wife Kim and their 3 children.in Lockhart not long ago...another tightnit community..shaken to their core.

its happening far too often for it to be ignored...

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 6:47am:

Link? Picture? video?

Here you go.  http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/tributes-for-young-port-lincoln-murder-suicide-victims-koda-and-hunter-little-and-their-family/news-story/eb385f1b3875a9cb768659ca92c41975

He was suffering from depression, apparently.  I read yesterday that there was a gun in the car when they dragged it up.  Nothing about it in the above article that I could see, but there are pictures of the man, wife and 2 sons.

Very sad.

The guy just went mental.

he lost his mind.

Ive seen a horse lose its mind, just started shaking like a leaf, i jumped off just as it jumped into a barbed wire fence.

How do you prevent this happening?

You work on helping people control themselves and their fears .

You make them feel safe with good confident leadership.
You treat them firm but fair.
You are kind, encouraging and challenging.

This is gone from the lifestyle of many people.

Good nutrition
Good positive psychology (ignore the negative neurotic media)
Good sleep.
Good social circle.
If you have a relationship with anyone , at home , in your family , in your workplace which is toxic....cut it off.

Positive psychology is where we need to focus.

the whole focus of psychology, mental health and counselling is on whats WRONG with people.
lets work on whats RIGHT.

we dont let our cars go til they breakdown.we service them
we should be regularly servicing people with doses of self help (people are more fragile then cars )

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 6:47am:

Link? Picture? video?

Sorry. Was very busy with the kids.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2016/01/06/port-lincoln-father-battled-mental-illness

Relatives of Port Lincoln man Damien Little have visited the spot where he took his own life and the lives of his two small boys as details of his battle with mental illness emerged.

Early on Monday, Mr Little drove his car off the main wharf in the Eyre Peninsula town and into 30 metres of water, killing himself and his two sons, 10-month-old Hunter and Koda, 4.

His family has now revealed the 34-year-old had suffered with mental health issues for the past three years.

"We had noticed a change," his mother Sue told the Adelaide Advertiser.

"We tried to help him, we all did. But you can't help somebody who can't help himself.

The revelations of Mr Little's troubled life came as others who knew him said he was respected and well liked.

"It's just a shocking thing to have happen out of the blue and for no reason that we knew of," Wheatsheaf Hotel owner Peter Watherston said on Tuesday.

"He and his brother used to pop out for a beer."

South Australian Commissioner for Victims' Rights Michael O'Connell said the heart-wrenching incident had caused anguish for the family and friends.

But he also urged people not to rush to blame Mr Little, even those who might find murder by a parent to be among the "cruellest of tragedies."

"We do not know the reasons Damien did what he appears to have done and speculating helps neither the family nor the people of Port Lincoln," he said.

As well as tributes on social media, locals have created a makeshift memorial of flowers, teddy bears and other items along the edge of the wharf.

In writing on a football jumper one mourner wrote "RIP Little Legends".

Mr Little's parents and other relatives visited the site on Tuesday as police released two family photos which appeared to show a happy couple and their children.

In one, Mr Little and his wife Melissa are sitting on a beach with their two smiling young boys resting in their laps.

Neferti wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:26am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 6:47am: Link? Picture? video? Here you go.  http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/tributes-for-young-port-lincoln-murder-suicide-victims-koda-and-hunter-little-and-their-family/news-story/eb385f1b3875a9cb768659ca92c41975 He was suffering from depression, apparently.  I read yesterday that there was a gun in the car when they dragged it up.  Nothing about it in the above article that I could see, but there are pictures of the man, wife and 2 sons. Very sad.

Thanks for that link Nef.

It's more comprehensive.

why does it always come down to depression....??

really... its not as if depression is something NEW...it isnt..what was wrong with his life to be depressed about?????..he sounds as if he was very successful in what he chose to do....why take the lives of two beautiful children... that you have no right to take.

how can anyone say depression made him want to kill his own children???

it sounds more like he hated them....or his wife who now has to find a way to go forward after the unspeakable.....he left a long suicide note......he had time to seek help or answers......but chose not too..

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:29am:

The guy just went mental. he lost his mind. Ive seen a horse lose its mind, just started shaking like a leaf, i jumped off just as it jumped into a barbed wire fence. How do you prevent this happening? You work on helping people control themselves and their fears . You make them feel safe with good confident leadership. You treat them firm but fair. You are kind, encouraging and challenging. This is gone from the lifestyle of many people. Good nutrition Good positive psychology (ignore the negative neurotic media) Good sleep. Good social circle. If you have a relationship with anyone , at home , in your family , in your workplace which is toxic....cut it off. Positive psychology is where we need to focus. the whole focus of psychology, mental health and counselling is on whats WRONG with people. lets work on whats RIGHT. we dont let our cars go til they breakdown.we service them we should be regularly servicing people with doses of self help (people are more fragile then cars )

Please Aqua, a horse story????

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:46am:

why does it always come down to depression....?? really... its not as if depression is something NEW...it isnt..what was wrong with his life to be depressed about?????..he sounds as if he was very successful in what he chose to do....why take the lives of two beautiful children... that you have no right to take. how can anyone say depression made him want to kill his own children??? it sounds more like he hated them....or his wife who now has to find a way to go forward after the unspeakable.....he left a long suicide note......he had time to seek help or answers......but chose not too..

My dear sweet Cods, you're trying to make sense of the internal processes of a seriously depressed person.

I don't think you'll get far.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:48am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:29am: The guy just went mental. he lost his mind. Ive seen a horse lose its mind, just started shaking like a leaf, i jumped off just as it jumped into a barbed wire fence. How do you prevent this happening? You work on helping people control themselves and their fears . You make them feel safe with good confident leadership. You treat them firm but fair. You are kind, encouraging and challenging. This is gone from the lifestyle of many people. Good nutrition Good positive psychology (ignore the negative neurotic media) Good sleep. Good social circle. If you have a relationship with anyone , at home , in your family , in your workplace which is toxic....cut it off. Positive psychology is where we need to focus. the whole focus of psychology, mental health and counselling is on whats WRONG with people. lets work on whats RIGHT. we dont let our cars go til they breakdown.we service them we should be regularly servicing people with doses of self help (people are more fragile then cars ) Please Aqua, a horse story????

mammals have nervous breakdowns.
mammals have nervous breakdowns more if they live in a state of high anxiety.
anxiety is intimately linked to depression.

nearly everything humans do raises anxiety and reduces coping.

they eat crap, they fool around on the internet, they dont exercise and get good endorphins, they fill their head with neurotic media, .

you tell the average person to sit quietly in an empty room for 2 hours without their iphone and they will nearly HAVE a nervous breakdown, such is their addiction to the never ending influx of stimulation

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:48am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:29am: The guy just went mental. he lost his mind. Ive seen a horse lose its mind, just started shaking like a leaf, i jumped off just as it jumped into a barbed wire fence. How do you prevent this happening? You work on helping people control themselves and their fears . You make them feel safe with good confident leadership. You treat them firm but fair. You are kind, encouraging and challenging. This is gone from the lifestyle of many people. Good nutrition Good positive psychology (ignore the negative neurotic media) Good sleep. Good social circle. If you have a relationship with anyone , at home , in your family , in your workplace which is toxic....cut it off. Positive psychology is where we need to focus. the whole focus of psychology, mental health and counselling is on whats WRONG with people. lets work on whats RIGHT. we dont let our cars go til they breakdown.we service them we should be regularly servicing people with doses of self help (people are more fragile then cars ) Please Aqua, a horse story????

its as bad as comparing a broken vase isnt it??...

its murder.....in this awful case two children.....


I will never understand how any murder can be  linked to a horse or a vase to be honest.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:51am:

cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:46am: why does it always come down to depression....?? really... its not as if depression is something NEW...it isnt..what was wrong with his life to be depressed about?????..he sounds as if he was very successful in what he chose to do....why take the lives of two beautiful children... that you have no right to take. how can anyone say depression made him want to kill his own children??? it sounds more like he hated them....or his wife who now has to find a way to go forward after the unspeakable.....he left a long suicide note......he had time to seek help or answers......but chose not too.. My dear sweet Cods, you're trying to make sense of the internal processes of a seriously depressed person. I don't think you'll get far.

when they mention depression... from which I gather he had never been diagnosed.....

they are looking for excuses......

maybe they should do an autopsy on his brain....maybe he was a drug addict....well hidden as we know they are prone to do...

but this isnt depression.....yes he may kill himself....BUT MURDER???

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:53am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:48am: aquascoot wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:29am: The guy just went mental. he lost his mind. Ive seen a horse lose its mind, just started shaking like a leaf, i jumped off just as it jumped into a barbed wire fence. How do you prevent this happening? You work on helping people control themselves and their fears . You make them feel safe with good confident leadership. You treat them firm but fair. You are kind, encouraging and challenging. This is gone from the lifestyle of many people. Good nutrition Good positive psychology (ignore the negative neurotic media) Good sleep. Good social circle. If you have a relationship with anyone , at home , in your family , in your workplace which is toxic....cut it off. Positive psychology is where we need to focus. the whole focus of psychology, mental health and counselling is on whats WRONG with people. lets work on whats RIGHT. we dont let our cars go til they breakdown.we service them we should be regularly servicing people with doses of self help (people are more fragile then cars ) Please Aqua, a horse story???? its as bad as comparing a broken vase isnt it??... its murder.....in this awful case two children..... I will never understand how any murder can be  linked to a horse or a vase to be honest.

not "linking " it to a horse
i am saying that completely unexpected suicides occur when the mind is lost.
and that this could be reduced if we taught people how to "use their mind " properly.

the mind can be exercised like any other muscle.

if you live in a durrrrrr state and dont exercise it , it gets weak and can break ,
if you dont exercise your back it gets weak and can break.

preventative medicine innit

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:46am:

why does it always come down to depression....?? really... its not as if depression is something NEW...it isnt..what was wrong with his life to be depressed about?????..he sounds as if he was very successful in what he chose to do....why take the lives of two beautiful children... that you have no right to take. how can anyone say depression made him want to kill his own children??? it sounds more like he hated them....or his wife who now has to find a way to go forward after the unspeakable.....he left a long suicide note......he had time to seek help or answers......but chose not too..

Quote:

...........the 34-year-old had suffered with mental health issues for the past three years.............

drat.

Some of us initially thought that a marriage breakdown issue was at the heart of this matter.

Seems we were wrong.

Agreed - probably business troubles - not enough of a reason.... sad all over.  I can unders  tand how small business in SA etc might be suffering... everything is turning down..

An everyday weak Karnt.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 8:03am:

cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:46am: why does it always come down to depression....?? really... its not as if depression is something NEW...it isnt..what was wrong with his life to be depressed about?????..he sounds as if he was very successful in what he chose to do....why take the lives of two beautiful children... that you have no right to take. how can anyone say depression made him want to kill his own children??? it sounds more like he hated them....or his wife who now has to find a way to go forward after the unspeakable.....he left a long suicide note......he had time to seek help or answers......but chose not too.. Quote: ...........the 34-year-old had suffered with mental health issues for the past three years............. drat.

IN THAT CASE HE WASNT THE NICE SMILING UNASSUMING MAN EVERYONE SAYS HE WAS?????.....


and mental issues....

says more than DEPRESSION>..


would you allow someone suffering MENTAL ISSUES to be in charge of children???>..

I dont know???...

I am saying this is MURDER he took two lives with him....it was planned...if he had issues for 3 years he must have been seeing someone......what does that say?????.......

no one saw a hint of this coming????.....ok lets call it depression... ::)

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 9:44am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 8:03am: cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:46am: why does it always come down to depression....?? really... its not as if depression is something NEW...it isnt..what was wrong with his life to be depressed about?????..he sounds as if he was very successful in what he chose to do....why take the lives of two beautiful children... that you have no right to take. how can anyone say depression made him want to kill his own children??? it sounds more like he hated them....or his wife who now has to find a way to go forward after the unspeakable.....he left a long suicide note......he had time to seek help or answers......but chose not too.. Quote: ...........the 34-year-old had suffered with mental health issues for the past three years............. drat. IN THAT CASE HE WASNT THE NICE SMILING UNASSUMING MAN EVERYONE SAYS HE WAS?????..... and mental issues.... says more than DEPRESSION>.. would you allow someone suffering MENTAL ISSUES to be in charge of children???>.. I dont know???... I am saying this is MURDER he took two lives with him....it was planned...if he had issues for 3 years he must have been seeing someone......what does that say?????....... no one saw a hint of this coming????.....ok lets call it depression... ::)

Depression is a mental disorder/illness/health issue, cods.

Moreover, there is a difference between being depressed and having depression.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 9:48am:

cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 9:44am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 8:03am: cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:46am: why does it always come down to depression....?? really... its not as if depression is something NEW...it isnt..what was wrong with his life to be depressed about?????..he sounds as if he was very successful in what he chose to do....why take the lives of two beautiful children... that you have no right to take. how can anyone say depression made him want to kill his own children??? it sounds more like he hated them....or his wife who now has to find a way to go forward after the unspeakable.....he left a long suicide note......he had time to seek help or answers......but chose not too.. Quote: ...........the 34-year-old had suffered with mental health issues for the past three years............. drat. IN THAT CASE HE WASNT THE NICE SMILING UNASSUMING MAN EVERYONE SAYS HE WAS?????..... and mental issues.... says more than DEPRESSION>.. would you allow someone suffering MENTAL ISSUES to be in charge of children???>.. I dont know???... I am saying this is MURDER he took two lives with him....it was planned...if he had issues for 3 years he must have been seeing someone......what does that say?????....... no one saw a hint of this coming????.....ok lets call it depression... ::) Depression is a mental disorder/illness, cods. Moreover, there is a difference between being depressed and having depression.

not always.... we use words today to explain what we cant explain..

a man is a smiling wonderful husband and father....who suddenly decides to take his own life along with his two sons...

he doesnt have them fall asleep forever...

no he drowns them...he drives off a jetty....at high speed....their last moments must have been terror filled....

another is so depressed he SHOOTS  his wife and 3 children then himself...

yep lets call it depression...

There is, of course, the phenomenom of the "smiling depressive' Cods.

And people can develop such a negative view of the world (again , this needs to be fought), but they can see the world as SUCH a negative place that they feel those they love are better off escaping it as well.

Even although it is no longer an in vogue term, i prefer "nervous breakdown"

Anyone can have one.

if i put you in a steel box, gave you some chronic pain, played mariah carey at 120 db on a loop for 5 days, you would have a nervous breakdown.

by developing our minds , we would be 'harder to break" , just as someone in peak physical condition would survive extreme physical stress (say Stuart Diver).

so work on developing a great mind.
embrace stress. embrace challenge.
you are NOT your mind.
when your mind tells you to do something (eat maccas, play the pokies, have a smoke) 
see it as a game, you verses your mind, and decide that you are going to win.

Do that every day (and every moment of every day) and you get momentum and this sort of breakdown will be far less likely to afflict you

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 9:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 9:48am: cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 9:44am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 8:03am: cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:46am: why does it always come down to depression....?? really... its not as if depression is something NEW...it isnt..what was wrong with his life to be depressed about?????..he sounds as if he was very successful in what he chose to do....why take the lives of two beautiful children... that you have no right to take. how can anyone say depression made him want to kill his own children??? it sounds more like he hated them....or his wife who now has to find a way to go forward after the unspeakable.....he left a long suicide note......he had time to seek help or answers......but chose not too.. Quote: ...........the 34-year-old had suffered with mental health issues for the past three years............. drat. IN THAT CASE HE WASNT THE NICE SMILING UNASSUMING MAN EVERYONE SAYS HE WAS?????..... and mental issues.... says more than DEPRESSION>.. would you allow someone suffering MENTAL ISSUES to be in charge of children???>.. I dont know???... I am saying this is MURDER he took two lives with him....it was planned...if he had issues for 3 years he must have been seeing someone......what does that say?????....... no one saw a hint of this coming????.....ok lets call it depression... ::) Depression is a mental disorder/illness, cods. Moreover, there is a difference between being depressed and having depression. not always....

Yes, always.

Depression, and being depressed are not the same thing.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 9:59am:

... played mariah carey at 120 db on a loop for 5 days, you would have a nervous breakdown.

You have an evil mind.

They would have never even considered that at Guantanamo Bay.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:07am:

Many things can cause a person to snap and do something out of character.  Maybe the vast predominance of women walking out on their marital relationships through 'not feeling validated' need to share some responsibility. This society has a lot to answer for with its treatment of men to 'equalise' women.  You can trust me when I say that the day will come when it does answer. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time - but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

Even when it's a man killing his kids, you find a way to blame women.

It was his decision to drive his car into the pier. Factors influencing this

(1) His personal responsibility - 95%
(2) Influence from his wife - 4%
(3) Social influences - 1%

The "everyday bloke" sits in the Social influence box

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 9:59am:

There is, of course, the phenomenom of the "smiling depressive' Cods. And people can develop such a negative view of the world (again , this needs to be fought), but they can see the world as SUCH a negative place that they feel those they love are better off escaping it as well. Even although it is no longer an in vogue term, i prefer "nervous breakdown" Anyone can have one. if i put you in a steel box, gave you some chronic pain, played mariah carey at 120 db on a loop for 5 days, you would have a nervous breakdown. by developing our minds , we would be 'harder to break" , just as someone in peak physical condition would survive extreme physical stress (say Stuart Diver). so work on developing a great mind. embrace stress. embrace challenge. you are NOT your mind. when your mind tells you to do something (eat maccas, play the pokies, have a smoke)  see it as a game, you verses your mind, and decide that you are going to win. Do that every day (and every moment of every day) and you get momentum and this sort of breakdown will be far less likely to afflict you

I realise that... but this is becoming more and more    these are young men... who have never been to war never done it really tough if you like....you cannot claim they didnt eat right or live right.so thats what sent them round the bend..


its more than that... as you say nervous breakdown thats what it was always called.. and people lived with it.. they didnt go out and MURDER THEIR FAMILIES...

these are fine young men....their children are all healthy born with everything in tact...look at the folks who have disabled children to take care of for the rest of their lives.........they dont do this.....and they have more excuse for being depressed.....than any of us....

cant you see this is more than that....

and as for training the brain... sure of course...do you think people will do that??????????....



greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 9:59am:

Yes, always. Depression, and being depressed are not the same thing

U. SAID... depression is a mental disorder/illness.

I SAID its not always the same thing...

and neither it is...

some people worry themselves into anxiety.. they have a need to look on the bad side of life no matter what.......they always sound down always depressed...gloomy....

most people who know them say they are depressed.... but they are not....they are just negative about everything..

mothra wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 10:07am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:07am: Many things can cause a person to snap and do something out of character.  Maybe the vast predominance of women walking out on their marital relationships through 'not feeling validated' need to share some responsibility. This society has a lot to answer for with its treatment of men to 'equalise' women.  You can trust me when I say that the day will come when it does answer. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time - but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Even when it's a man killing his kids, you find a way to blame women.

Grapps and I don't always agree but there are deep truths in what he says

This man took a decision to kill himself and his children - for this he must take 100% personal responsibility when he meets his maker

Even though it would not bring their lives back it would be interesting to know what the contributing factors are

mothra wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 10:07am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:07am: Many things can cause a person to snap and do something out of character.  Maybe the vast predominance of women walking out on their marital relationships through 'not feeling validated' need to share some responsibility. This society has a lot to answer for with its treatment of men to 'equalise' women.  You can trust me when I say that the day will come when it does answer. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time - but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Even when it's a man killing his kids, you find a way to blame women.

I am so glad you said that   I was going to comment on it.. but thought why bother it wont stop him always blaming the female... >:(

I dont care what anyone says there is no excuse or reason or illness other than madness....for murdering your children....

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:07am:

Many things can cause a person to snap and do something out of character.  Maybe the vast predominance of women walking out on their marital relationships through 'not feeling validated' need to share some responsibility. This society has a lot to answer for with its treatment of men to 'equalise' women.  You can trust me when I say that the day will come when it does answer. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time - but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

Are you for real?

Maqqa wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 10:18am:

mothra wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 10:07am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:07am: Many things can cause a person to snap and do something out of character.  Maybe the vast predominance of women walking out on their marital relationships through 'not feeling validated' need to share some responsibility. This society has a lot to answer for with its treatment of men to 'equalise' women.  You can trust me when I say that the day will come when it does answer. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time - but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Even when it's a man killing his kids, you find a way to blame women. Grapps and I don't always agree but there are deep truths in what he says This man took a decision to kill himself and his children - for this he must take 100% personal responsibility when he meets his maker Even though it would not bring their lives back it would be interesting to know what the contributing factors are

oh of course... the wife nagged thats a goody....she demanded everything.....well almost...she didnt want sex more than once a month... another goody....she was always tired.. oh christ whats having two little boys....thats not work....she spends too much.. it drives me mad....

its all her fault.

come on girls list all your faults that would drive a man to kill his children........... >:( >:( >:( >:(

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 10:19am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:07am: Many things can cause a person to snap and do something out of character.  Maybe the vast predominance of women walking out on their marital relationships through 'not feeling validated' need to share some responsibility. This society has a lot to answer for with its treatment of men to 'equalise' women.  You can trust me when I say that the day will come when it does answer. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time - but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Are you for real?

read maccas reply.... ::) ::) ::)

makes sense to some.

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 10:11am:

U. SAID... depression is a mental disorder/illness. I SAID its not always the same thing...

Yes.

As I explained: depression, and being depressed are not the same thing.

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 10:19am:

I dont care what anyone says there is no excuse or reason or illness other than madness....for murdering your children....

There is no excuse for murdering anyone, no matter what their age may be.

Maqqa wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 10:08am:

It was his decision to drive his car into the pier. Factors influencing this (1) His personal responsibility - 95% (2) Influence from his wife - 4% (3) Social influences - 1% The "everyday bloke" sits in the Social influence box

Quote:

...............His personal responsibility - 95%..........

yes

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 10:23am:

oh of course... the wife nagged thats a goody....she demanded everything.....well almost...she didnt want sex more than once a month... another goody....she was always tired.. oh christ whats having two little boys....thats not work....she spends too much.. it drives me mad.... its all her fault. come on girls list all your faults that would drive a man to kill his children........... >:( >:( >:( >:(

I don't think these are the excuses Grapps was referring to

I have never said "its all her fault"

Read the section where I said he's 100% responsible for his decision to his maker. That doesn't sound like "its all her fault"

I said it would be interesting to know what the contributing factors are

As I have mentioned in the Domestic violence thread - the verbal abuse can have more devastating and lasting impact than physical abuse

Neferti wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:26am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 6:47am: Link? Picture? video? Here you go.  http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/tributes-for-young-port-lincoln-murder-suicide-victims-koda-and-hunter-little-and-their-family/news-story/eb385f1b3875a9cb768659ca92c41975 He was suffering from depression, apparently.  I read yesterday that there was a gun in the car when they dragged it up.  Nothing about it in the above article that I could see, but there are pictures of the man, wife and 2 sons. Very sad.

I didn't see anything about the gun being in the car, it's not uncommon for guns to be thrown into the water from wharves.

The police told the senate inquiry into firearm violence that many stolen guns are thrown off wharves and into creeks and rivers because they do not contain the firing bolt because they owners were following safe storage regs.
A gun without a bolt is a deadly as a stick and worth just about as much.

Was he being treated for depression, if he was did the treating medical staff send off a S79 form to the Police?
Try google for S79 firearms act

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:03pm:

Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:26am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 6:47am: Link? Picture? video? Here you go.  http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/tributes-for-young-port-lincoln-murder-suicide-victims-koda-and-hunter-little-and-their-family/news-story/eb385f1b3875a9cb768659ca92c41975 He was suffering from depression, apparently.  I read yesterday that there was a gun in the car when they dragged it up.  Nothing about it in the above article that I could see, but there are pictures of the man, wife and 2 sons. Very sad. I didn't see anything about the gun being in the car, it's not uncommon for guns to be thrown into the water from wharves.

"The white station wagon sank in up to 30 metres of water, with police saying the incident appeared to have been a murder-suicide.

"They said a rifle had been recovered from the car."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-05/port-lincoln-in-shock-after-father-drives-car-off-wharf/7067272

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:13pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:03pm: Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:26am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 6:47am: Link? Picture? video? Here you go.  http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/tributes-for-young-port-lincoln-murder-suicide-victims-koda-and-hunter-little-and-their-family/news-story/eb385f1b3875a9cb768659ca92c41975 He was suffering from depression, apparently.  I read yesterday that there was a gun in the car when they dragged it up.  Nothing about it in the above article that I could see, but there are pictures of the man, wife and 2 sons. Very sad. I didn't see anything about the gun being in the car, it's not uncommon for guns to be thrown into the water from wharves. "The white station wagon sank in up to 30 metres of water, with police saying the incident appeared to have been a murder-suicide. "They said a rifle had been recovered from the car." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-05/port-lincoln-in-shock-after-father-drives-car-off-wharf/7067272

Thank you, Greg. 

I did wonder what he did/didn't do with the gun and why it was there. The mind boggles!

It does sound like he was an undiagnosed Bipolar sufferer. His family said that he had "changed" in the last 3 years.

There are 2 "types" of Bipolar .....  Bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2.  One tends to strike when people are in their late teens or early 20s and the other Bipolar when they are around 30ish or a bit older.  (According to what I read about it years ago).

IF his family had been able to reason with him to seek help and get some medication .......... 

Neferti wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:13pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:03pm: Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:26am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 6:47am: Link? Picture? video? Here you go.  http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/tributes-for-young-port-lincoln-murder-suicide-victims-koda-and-hunter-little-and-their-family/news-story/eb385f1b3875a9cb768659ca92c41975 He was suffering from depression, apparently.  I read yesterday that there was a gun in the car when they dragged it up.  Nothing about it in the above article that I could see, but there are pictures of the man, wife and 2 sons. Very sad. I didn't see anything about the gun being in the car, it's not uncommon for guns to be thrown into the water from wharves. "The white station wagon sank in up to 30 metres of water, with police saying the incident appeared to have been a murder-suicide. "They said a rifle had been recovered from the car." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-05/port-lincoln-in-shock-after-father-drives-car-off-wharf/7067272 Thank you, Greg.  I did wonder what he did/didn't do with the gun and why it was there. The mind boggles!

He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story.

There are plenty of undiagnosed geriatric bipolar rednecks on Ozpolitic. Lucky thing their families have already escaped.

Maqqa, Aquascoot, doubleplusgood, soren, innocentbystander, Gizmo, Yadda, Bogarde and Andre Hicks come to mind. These people need urgent diagnosis and help.

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:37pm:

There are plenty of undiagnosed geriatric bipolar rednecks on Ozpolitic. Lucky thing their families have already escaped. Maqqa, Aquascoot, doubleplusgood, soren, innocentbystander, Gizmo, Yadda, Bogarde and Andre Hicks come to mind. These people need urgent diagnosis and help.

I suppose you were diagnosed and have a Disability pension for mental illness, that would explain your idiocy.

Get a job and pay some taxes ya dopey bum

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:39pm:

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:37pm: There are plenty of undiagnosed geriatric bipolar rednecks on Ozpolitic. Lucky thing their families have already escaped. Maqqa, Aquascoot, doubleplusgood, soren, innocentbystander, Gizmo, Yadda, Bogarde and Andre Hicks come to mind. These people need urgent diagnosis and help. I suppose you were diagnosed and have a Disability pension for mental illness, that would explain your idiocy. Get a job and pay some taxes ya dopey bum

Apologies for missing you off the list.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:36pm:

He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story.

The Coroner hasn't said how they died, yet. We will probably never know.  I just thought it was odd to have a gun in the station wagon. Then he was a "farmer" (or his father is/was) so maybe a gun/rifle is always kept in the back of the car? Who knows?

He did, apparently, leave a Suicide Note on Facebook but that was removed immediately.  So, at least his wife has some idea what was going through his mind.

Killing himself is one thing, taking the little boys with him is unforgivable.

Neferti wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

I just thought it was odd to have a gun in the station wagon

He may have simply changed his mind from shooting to drowning. Other than that it might have been for hunting, or there because of paranoia

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:36pm:

He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story.

I haven't seen that reported (the 'drowning' part).

I've seen no official 'cause of death' yet.

All the stories I've read had confirmed the deaths, but nothing more.

"An investigation is being led by detectives from the Major Crime Investigation Branch, forensic experts and the Major Crash team, supported by local police."

Neferti wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:13pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:03pm: Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:26am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 6:47am: Link? Picture? video? Here you go.  http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/tributes-for-young-port-lincoln-murder-suicide-victims-koda-and-hunter-little-and-their-family/news-story/eb385f1b3875a9cb768659ca92c41975 He was suffering from depression, apparently.  I read yesterday that there was a gun in the car when they dragged it up.  Nothing about it in the above article that I could see, but there are pictures of the man, wife and 2 sons. Very sad. I didn't see anything about the gun being in the car, it's not uncommon for guns to be thrown into the water from wharves. "The white station wagon sank in up to 30 metres of water, with police saying the incident appeared to have been a murder-suicide. "They said a rifle had been recovered from the car." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-05/port-lincoln-in-shock-after-father-drives-car-off-wharf/7067272 Thank you, Greg.  I did wonder what he did/didn't do with the gun and why it was there. The mind boggles! It does sound like he was an undiagnosed Bipolar sufferer. His family said that he had "changed" in the last 3 years. There are 2 "types" of Bipolar .....  Bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2.  One tends to strike when people are in their late teens or early 20s and the other Bipolar when they are around 30ish or a bit older.  (According to what I read about it years ago). IF his family had been able to reason with him to seek help and get some medication ..........

The CORONER will, eventually, decide on the cause of death. Meanwhile ............

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:40pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:39pm: Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:37pm: There are plenty of undiagnosed geriatric bipolar rednecks on Ozpolitic. Lucky thing their families have already escaped. Maqqa, Aquascoot, doubleplusgood, soren, innocentbystander, Gizmo, Yadda, Bogarde and Andre Hicks come to mind. These people need urgent diagnosis and help. I suppose you were diagnosed and have a Disability pension for mental illness, that would explain your idiocy. Get a job and pay some taxes ya dopey bum Apologies for missing you off the list.

I appreciate you putting me on top of that list  ;)

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:37pm:

There are plenty of undiagnosed geriatric bipolar rednecks on Ozpolitic. Lucky thing their families have already escaped. Maqqa, Aquascoot, doubleplusgood, soren, innocentbystander, Gizmo, Yadda, Bogarde and Andre Hicks come to mind. These people need urgent diagnosis and help.

I'M SICK TO DEATH OF YOUR LISTS.

I'M ALWAYS EXCLUDED!!!

PLEASE ENSURE THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.

THANK YOU  :)

Neferti wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

The CORONER will, eventually, decide on the cause of death. Meanwhile ............

Exactly.

I've read through several articles, from a variety of news sources, and none of them have reported the cause of death yet.

We'll have to wait and see.

(not that it helps those poor kids or their mother)

Maqqa wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 1:26pm:

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:40pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:39pm: Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:37pm: There are plenty of undiagnosed geriatric bipolar rednecks on Ozpolitic. Lucky thing their families have already escaped. Maqqa, Aquascoot, doubleplusgood, soren, innocentbystander, Gizmo, Yadda, Bogarde and Andre Hicks come to mind. These people need urgent diagnosis and help. I suppose you were diagnosed and have a Disability pension for mental illness, that would explain your idiocy. Get a job and pay some taxes ya dopey bum Apologies for missing you off the list. I appreciate you putting me on top of that list  ;)

Umm excuse me, I would appreciate it even more if I could be on top.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 1:28pm:

Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:24pm: The CORONER will, eventually, decide on the cause of death. Meanwhile ............ Exactly. I've read through several articles, from a variety of news sources, and none of them have reported the cause of death yet. We'll have to wait and see. (not that it helps those poor kids or their mother)

You're right my dear friend.

Unfortunately, a recurring issue with these types of topics is the degree of speculation and conjecture that gets thrown about.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 1:29pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:26pm: Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:40pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:39pm: Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:37pm: There are plenty of undiagnosed geriatric bipolar rednecks on Ozpolitic. Lucky thing their families have already escaped. Maqqa, Aquascoot, doubleplusgood, soren, innocentbystander, Gizmo, Yadda, Bogarde and Andre Hicks come to mind. These people need urgent diagnosis and help. I suppose you were diagnosed and have a Disability pension for mental illness, that would explain your idiocy. Get a job and pay some taxes ya dopey bum Apologies for missing you off the list. I appreciate you putting me on top of that list  ;) Umm excuse me, I would appreciate it even more if I could be on top.

;D Lisa Jones,  Are you sure you want to be at the TOP of the


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There are plenty of undiagnosed geriatric bipolar rednecks on Ozpolitic. Lucky thing their families have already escaped.

List?  ;D ;D

Neferti wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 1:36pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:29pm: Maqqa wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:26pm: Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:40pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:39pm: Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:37pm: There are plenty of undiagnosed geriatric bipolar rednecks on Ozpolitic. Lucky thing their families have already escaped. Maqqa, Aquascoot, doubleplusgood, soren, innocentbystander, Gizmo, Yadda, Bogarde and Andre Hicks come to mind. These people need urgent diagnosis and help. I suppose you were diagnosed and have a Disability pension for mental illness, that would explain your idiocy. Get a job and pay some taxes ya dopey bum Apologies for missing you off the list. I appreciate you putting me on top of that list  ;) Umm excuse me, I would appreciate it even more if I could be on top. ;D Lisa Jones,  Are you sure you want to be at the TOP of the Quote: There are plenty of undiagnosed geriatric bipolar rednecks on Ozpolitic. Lucky thing their families have already escaped. List?  ;D ;D

I make fun of him AND his silly lists all the time lol.

Do I bother to read what the lists are about?

Hell no lol. That would be a waste of eyesight  ;D

Neferti wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:36pm: He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story. The Coroner hasn't said how they died, yet. We will probably never know.  I just thought it was odd to have a gun in the station wagon. Then he was a "farmer" (or his father is/was) so maybe a gun/rifle is always kept in the back of the car? Who knows? He did, apparently, leave a Suicide Note on Facebook but that was removed immediately.  So, at least his wife has some idea what was going through his mind. Killing himself is one thing, taking the little boys with him is unforgivable.

If they were shot I am sure they would have reported it as blind freddy can tell if guns caused the death you don't need a coroner.

Mythbusters proved car doors cannot be opened until the car is completely full of water as the water pressure makes it impossible to open.

How do we stop people killing their families like that woman in Cairns who stabbed 8 kids or this guy who drove his car into water?

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:41pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:36pm: He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story. The Coroner hasn't said how they died, yet. We will probably never know.  I just thought it was odd to have a gun in the station wagon. Then he was a "farmer" (or his father is/was) so maybe a gun/rifle is always kept in the back of the car? Who knows? He did, apparently, leave a Suicide Note on Facebook but that was removed immediately.  So, at least his wife has some idea what was going through his mind. Killing himself is one thing, taking the little boys with him is unforgivable. If they were shot I am sure they would have reported it as blind freddy can tell if guns caused the death you don't need a coroner. Mythbusters proved car doors cannot be opened until the car is completely full of water as the water pressure makes it impossible to open. How do we stop people killing their families like that woman in Cairns who stabbed 8 kids or this guy who drove his car into water?

OH NO! NOT ANOTHER MYTHBUSTER FAN  :-/ ::)

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:41pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:36pm: He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story. The Coroner hasn't said how they died, yet. We will probably never know.  I just thought it was odd to have a gun in the station wagon. Then he was a "farmer" (or his father is/was) so maybe a gun/rifle is always kept in the back of the car? Who knows? He did, apparently, leave a Suicide Note on Facebook but that was removed immediately.  So, at least his wife has some idea what was going through his mind. Killing himself is one thing, taking the little boys with him is unforgivable. If they were shot I am sure they would have reported it ...

Why are you sure?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 1:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:40pm: Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:41pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:36pm: He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story. The Coroner hasn't said how they died, yet. We will probably never know.  I just thought it was odd to have a gun in the station wagon. Then he was a "farmer" (or his father is/was) so maybe a gun/rifle is always kept in the back of the car? Who knows? He did, apparently, leave a Suicide Note on Facebook but that was removed immediately.  So, at least his wife has some idea what was going through his mind. Killing himself is one thing, taking the little boys with him is unforgivable. If they were shot I am sure they would have reported it ... Why are you sure?

But they can't report on anything like that until the coroner completes his/her report.

::)

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 1:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:44pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:40pm: Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:41pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:36pm: He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story. The Coroner hasn't said how they died, yet. We will probably never know.  I just thought it was odd to have a gun in the station wagon. Then he was a "farmer" (or his father is/was) so maybe a gun/rifle is always kept in the back of the car? Who knows? He did, apparently, leave a Suicide Note on Facebook but that was removed immediately.  So, at least his wife has some idea what was going through his mind. Killing himself is one thing, taking the little boys with him is unforgivable. If they were shot I am sure they would have reported it ... Why are you sure? But they can't report on anything like that until the coroner completes his/her report. ::)

Baronvonrort doesn't understand that.

He seems to think that if the police see a bullet hole, they immediately tell all reporters that the death was caused by a gunshot wound.

Case closed - off to lunch!

Just as ridiculous as that scenario is, so is assuming that the deaths were caused by drowning just because the bodies were found in water.

None of us know how they died.

We can all take a guess, but none of us know ... yet.

I'm not ruling out drowning, gun shot wounds, or anything else at this stage.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 1:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:44pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:40pm: Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:41pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:36pm: He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story. The Coroner hasn't said how they died, yet. We will probably never know.  I just thought it was odd to have a gun in the station wagon. Then he was a "farmer" (or his father is/was) so maybe a gun/rifle is always kept in the back of the car? Who knows? He did, apparently, leave a Suicide Note on Facebook but that was removed immediately.  So, at least his wife has some idea what was going through his mind. Killing himself is one thing, taking the little boys with him is unforgivable. If they were shot I am sure they would have reported it ... Why are you sure? But they can't report on anything like that until the coroner completes his/her report. ::)

With the Lindt siege and the Parramatta shooter they didn't wait for the Coroners report before reporting a shooting

Lots of cases where shooting was mentioned before any Coroners reports on what happened, it has never stopped the media from reporting it-
google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Sydney+man+shot+dead

Mythubusters have proved it's impossible to get out of the car until it fills up with water, I would say drowning is pretty obvious in this case.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 2:18pm:

With the Lindt siege and the Parramatta shooter they didn't wait for the Coroners report before reporting a shooting

They report what's known to them.

In this case, it's not known if there was a shooting or not.

What is known is the car drove into the water and three bodies and a gun were found inside, therefore, that's what they're reporting.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 2:06pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:55pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:44pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:40pm: Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:41pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:36pm: He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story. The Coroner hasn't said how they died, yet. We will probably never know.  I just thought it was odd to have a gun in the station wagon. Then he was a "farmer" (or his father is/was) so maybe a gun/rifle is always kept in the back of the car? Who knows? He did, apparently, leave a Suicide Note on Facebook but that was removed immediately.  So, at least his wife has some idea what was going through his mind. Killing himself is one thing, taking the little boys with him is unforgivable. If they were shot I am sure they would have reported it ... Why are you sure? But they can't report on anything like that until the coroner completes his/her report. ::) Baronvonrort doesn't understand that. He seems to think that if the police see a bullet hole, they immediately tell all reporters that the death was caused by a gunshot wound. Case closed - off to lunch!

With the Lindt siege and Parramatta shooter they reported gunshots as the cause of death before the Coroner viewed the bodies.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 2:06pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:55pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:44pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:40pm: Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:41pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:36pm: He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story. The Coroner hasn't said how they died, yet. We will probably never know.  I just thought it was odd to have a gun in the station wagon. Then he was a "farmer" (or his father is/was) so maybe a gun/rifle is always kept in the back of the car? Who knows? He did, apparently, leave a Suicide Note on Facebook but that was removed immediately.  So, at least his wife has some idea what was going through his mind. Killing himself is one thing, taking the little boys with him is unforgivable. If they were shot I am sure they would have reported it ... Why are you sure? But they can't report on anything like that until the coroner completes his/her report. ::) Baronvonrort doesn't understand that. He seems to think that if the police see a bullet hole, they immediately tell all reporters that the death was caused by a gunshot wound. Case closed - off to lunch! With the Lindt siege and Parramatta shooter they reported gunshots as the cause of death before the Coroner viewed the bodies.

We all knew guns were fired in those situations.

We don't know if a gun was fired in this tragic case.

You're comparing apples and oranges.

If everyday blokes are child murderers, the redneck conservatives on Ozpolitic are raging psychotic serial killers.

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 2:01pm:

If everyday blokes are child murderers, the redneck conservatives on Ozpolitic are raging psychotic serial killers.

lol

So you're not an everyday psychotic poster on Ozpolitic abusing every chance you get ?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 2:25pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 2:18pm: With the Lindt siege and the Parramatta shooter they didn't wait for the Coroners report before reporting a shooting They report what's known to them. In this case, it's not known if there was a shooting or not. What is known is the car drove into the water and three bodies and a gun were found inside, therefore, that's what they're reporting.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 2:06pm:

I'm not ruling out drowning, gun shot wounds, or anything else at this stage.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 1:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:40pm: Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:41pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:36pm: He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story. The Coroner hasn't said how they died, yet. We will probably never know.  I just thought it was odd to have a gun in the station wagon. Then he was a "farmer" (or his father is/was) so maybe a gun/rifle is always kept in the back of the car? Who knows? He did, apparently, leave a Suicide Note on Facebook but that was removed immediately.  So, at least his wife has some idea what was going through his mind. Killing himself is one thing, taking the little boys with him is unforgivable. If they were shot I am sure they would have reported it ... Why are you sure?

we all know gweggy has been taking lessons from numpty on law... ... so argue with him at your peril..

he is always right..mmm left.... but thinks hes right......not forgetting how profound his comments are...

we just dont appreciate numpty and gweg...

show more respect people!

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 2:01pm:

If everyday blokes are child murderers, the redneck conservatives on Ozpolitic are raging psychotic serial killers.

really   have they done political tests on serial murderers??.... really they have???>..

how interesting....that must tell us so much

People are a bit like icebergs what you see is 10% of what there is below the water line.

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 2:01pm:

If everyday blokes are child murderers, the redneck conservatives on Ozpolitic are raging psychotic serial killers.

You seem to have a problem with name-calling. Get it right.

A REDNECK is one of your lot .... a working class, white person ... a leftard.  ;D


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redneck ˈrɛdnɛk/ nounNorth Americaninformalderogatory plural noun: rednecks     a working-class white person from the southern US, especially a politically reactionary one.     "redneck towns"

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:48am:

Please Aqua, a horse story????

;D ;D ;D


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr96/Herbert_04/horse2.png http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr96/Herbert_04/horse.png

red baron wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 2:47pm:

People are a bit like icebergs what you see is 10% of what there is below the water line.

Oh yes.

The Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde Syndrome is alive and well.

cods wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 2:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 2:25pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 2:18pm: With the Lindt siege and the Parramatta shooter they didn't wait for the Coroners report before reporting a shooting They report what's known to them. In this case, it's not known if there was a shooting or not. What is known is the car drove into the water and three bodies and a gun were found inside, therefore, that's what they're reporting. greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 2:06pm: I'm not ruling out drowning, gun shot wounds, or anything else at this stage. greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:44pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:40pm: Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:41pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:36pm: He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story. The Coroner hasn't said how they died, yet. We will probably never know.  I just thought it was odd to have a gun in the station wagon. Then he was a "farmer" (or his father is/was) so maybe a gun/rifle is always kept in the back of the car? Who knows? He did, apparently, leave a Suicide Note on Facebook but that was removed immediately.  So, at least his wife has some idea what was going through his mind. Killing himself is one thing, taking the little boys with him is unforgivable. If they were shot I am sure they would have reported it ... Why are you sure? we all know gweggy has been taking lessons from numpty on law... ... so argue with him at your peril.. he is always right..mmm left.... but thinks hes right......not forgetting how profound his comments are... we just dont appreciate numpty and gweg... show more respect people!

If you do nothing else worthwhile for the rest of your life cods, and I'm sure you probably won't, you really owe it to yourself to learn the meaning of two very important words.

'facts'

'objective'

Until you do that, you're just making an absolute fool of yourself in this forum.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 3:59pm:

Until you do that, you're just making an absolute fool of yourself in this forum

yeah I get you   GO TO FACEBOOK for the latest news and facts..

I GET YOU GWEG...

never fear..

shame this is about a dad who took his two sons lives isnt it...

otherwise we could talk about gweg and his obsessions..... with words... ::) ::) ::)

is that objective enough for you???..

cods wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 3:59pm: Until you do that, you're just making an absolute fool of yourself in this forum yeah I get you

Good.

Buy a dictionary as soon as you can then.

cods wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 2:01pm: If everyday blokes are child murderers, the redneck conservatives on Ozpolitic are raging psychotic serial killers. really   have they done political tests on serial murderers??.... really they have???>.. how interesting....that must tell us so much

Autopsy would be performed on Ozpolitic redneck conservatives if their cadavers had not stopped blathering and ambulating around aimlessly.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:10pm:

cods wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 4:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 3:59pm: Until you do that, you're just making an absolute fool of yourself in this forum yeah I get you    Good. Buy a dictionary as soon as you can then.

no dear its you that worries about WORDS and there meaning..

I worry about a young person driven to murder his children...not a WORD.

or a husband who murders his wife..

NOT A BROKEN VASE..

silly me.. I know that doesnt make any sense to you

.

.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 3:04pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 7:48am: Please Aqua, a horse story???? ;D ;D ;D http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr96/Herbert_04/horse2.png http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr96/Herbert_04/horse.png

I know. Unbelievable hey.  ::)

According to this topic "Everyday Blokes" (closet poms) are suicidal and infanticidal.

I exclude myself from that category.

cods wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 6:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 4:10pm: cods wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 4:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 3:59pm: Until you do that, you're just making an absolute fool of yourself in this forum yeah I get you    Good. Buy a dictionary as soon as you can then. no dear its you that worries about WORDS and there meaning..

I had a little chuckle.

You missed one.


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no dear its you that worries about WORDS and there meaning..

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 7:39pm:

cods wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 6:26pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 4:10pm: cods wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 4:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 3:59pm: Until you do that, you're just making an absolute fool of yourself in this forum yeah I get you    Good. Buy a dictionary as soon as you can then. no dear its you that worries about WORDS and there meaning.. I had a little chuckle.

well smack my hide....ah do declare..little gweggy has found another word to rely on....he is such a one... no matter how bad a state the world get into.. that little devil always finds a word to hit on.. and play with.

...OMG.. the devil that boy dont miss a trick...he is faster than speeding train.. i tell you a real wonder....

gweggy and numpty like two peas in a pod....

why dont we start a thread in ugly relationships....

where you guys can nit pick all day and all night....

oh wait a minute you already have one dont you...

ferfuxsakes   boys.....I will have to remind your mummies not to put your nappies on so  tight as you dont have anything to play with when she does that...

and you are quite lost when without that arent you?.

there there... ::)

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not to put your nappies on so  tight as you dont have anything to play with when she does that...

Whatever do you mean my dear sweet friend codsy wodsy?

Cods, as you can see, Aussie, is once again minimising and trivialising another domestic violence topic.

Ignore and report.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 7:39pm:

cods wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 6:26pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 4:10pm: cods wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 4:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 3:59pm: Until you do that, you're just making an absolute fool of yourself in this forum yeah I get you    Good. Buy a dictionary as soon as you can then. no dear its you that worries about WORDS and there meaning.. I had a little chuckle.

You're no better. I'm very disappointed with you.

>:(

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:41am:

Cods, as you can see, Aussie, is once again minimising and trivialising another domestic violence topic. Ignore and report.

who cares lisa....the girls are entitled to their fun...

I like REAL MEN...

they dont understand the reality of how pathetic they are.....just read their report abuse thread.....wimps..

they turn a thread like this isnt a WORD GAME...

pathetic. :( :( :(

Hey Cods...it's beyond pathetic. It's in poor taste & shows a blatant lack of respect for the dead and those left to pick up the pieces of their shattered lives.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 6:24am:

Hey Cods...it's beyond pathetic. It's in poor taste & shows a blatant lack of respect for the dead and those left to pick up the pieces of their shattered lives.

well you will note who does it all the time..

yes thats right/..

those who look for the attention...

every thread they enter it turns into the same thing..

personal attacks.....oh not the real honest to goodness abuse attacks like they dob on..

no just nasty little petty personal jibes....

always always personal...


but lets be honest here.. this is the only place they get any attention... ::) ::) ::)

have you thought of that???...

they actually go looking for you and I....they know all about us... read every post....

its like our own little groupies fan club..

I almost never read these girls....I have no interest in them at all......but they follow me around like  a BAD SMELL..

oh for a massive bottle of cyberspace  Pine o Cleen...

My first thought when i heard it on the news that it was a murder that someone else did to them, setting the car off in gear at full throttle, make it look like a suicide/murder.

... another discussion descended into the pit....... oh, well......

Let he who is without windows cast the first stone...

Damien Little and sons had gunshot wounds before car entered water
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-08/little-family-children-gunshot-wounds-before-car-drive-off-wharf/7076828

A word of warning, don't click on the link or it'll break your heart ... front and center on the article is the most adorable photo of the two little boys ... drowning was to good for the piece of sheat father that did this to these two boys.

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 2:46pm:

Damien Little and sons had gunshot wounds before car entered water http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-08/little-family-children-gunshot-wounds-before-car-drive-off-wharf/7076828 A word of warning, don't click on the link or it'll break your heart ... front and center on the article is the most adorable photo of the two little boys ... drowning was to good for the piece of sheat father that did this to these two boys.

Jesus. I clicked on the link. So terribly sad. What gorgeous little boys.

I've no idea how that poor mother will go on.

tried to warn you ... as a father of two little boys, I teared up looking at that photo

why the boys???....how can you be a devoted family person one day... then blithely shoot them the next.....

.like Lockhart Port Lincoln sounds like a very small community. where people get involved with one another mostly through their kids...yet no one had an inclining anything is wrong[sinister]..his wife only has praise...his family said he had problems...but wouldnt help himself...but was a wonderful husband father...

maybe we as a society are becoming so insensitive we miss a lot of signals...

the first thing we read .. is ring Lifeline or some other place of help...

but we forget about those WHO wont admit they have a problem... and would never ask for help...


its usually our children that make us go on with  living......I for one reached a crossroad where I wanted to lay down and not wake up...but my kids  needed me......and I cant for the life of me imagine even thinking about taking their lives....

I am sure the good people of Lockhart are feeling the cloud of despair over them again...

it is the helplessness.....thats how I feel.. i want to do so much yet theres nothing..

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:41pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:36pm: He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story. The Coroner hasn't said how they died, yet. We will probably never know.  I just thought it was odd to have a gun in the station wagon. Then he was a "farmer" (or his father is/was) so maybe a gun/rifle is always kept in the back of the car? Who knows? He did, apparently, leave a Suicide Note on Facebook but that was removed immediately.  So, at least his wife has some idea what was going through his mind. Killing himself is one thing, taking the little boys with him is unforgivable. If they were shot I am sure they would have reported it as blind freddy can tell if guns caused the death you don't need a coroner.

"Autopsies on Damien Little and his sons revealed they had all been shot before the white station wagon was driven off Brennan's Wharf at high speed early on Monday."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-08/port-lincoln-wharf-boys-father-shot-before-car-entered-water/7076828

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:36pm:

He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story.

This, perhaps?

"Two children and their father all had gunshot wounds before their car was driven off the wharf at Port Lincoln in SA, police have said."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-08/port-lincoln-wharf-boys-father-shot-before-car-entered-water/7076828

This man will take 100% responsibility when he stands in front of his maker - Allah Snack-Bar

For us who are left behind what would drive a man to kill his children and himself?

Was it society

Was it marital

Was it illness

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:56pm:

This man will take 100% responsibility when he stands in front of his maker.

What maker is that?

His mother?

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:36pm:

He drove the car off a wharf ...

Possibly.


Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:36pm:

and they drowned

Really? I hadn't heard that.


Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:36pm:

I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story.

How about this?

"Port Lincoln wharf deaths: Damien Little and sons had gunshot wounds before car entered water".

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-08/port-lincoln-wharf-boys-father-shot-before-car-entered-water/7076828

                                     :-/

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:56pm:

This man will take 100% responsibility when he stands in front of his maker - Allah Snack-Bar For us who are left behind what would drive a man to kill his children and himself? Was it society Was it marital Was it illness

It was Islam

They should install a sign on that wharf, pointing to the sea, with the words:

"Everyday blokes this way".

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 8:38pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8th, 2016 at 5:56pm: This man will take 100% responsibility when he stands in front of his maker - Allah Snack-Bar For us who are left behind what would drive a man to kill his children and himself? Was it society Was it marital Was it illness It was Islam

Ban them. Then nuke them.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 3:59pm:

cods wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 2:36pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 2:25pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 2:18pm: With the Lindt siege and the Parramatta shooter they didn't wait for the Coroners report before reporting a shooting They report what's known to them. In this case, it's not known if there was a shooting or not. What is known is the car drove into the water and three bodies and a gun were found inside, therefore, that's what they're reporting. greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 2:06pm: I'm not ruling out drowning, gun shot wounds, or anything else at this stage. greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:44pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 1:40pm: Neferti wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:41pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2016 at 12:36pm: He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story. The Coroner hasn't said how they died, yet. We will probably never know.  I just thought it was odd to have a gun in the station wagon. Then he was a "farmer" (or his father is/was) so maybe a gun/rifle is always kept in the back of the car? Who knows? He did, apparently, leave a Suicide Note on Facebook but that was removed immediately.  So, at least his wife has some idea what was going through his mind. Killing himself is one thing, taking the little boys with him is unforgivable. If they were shot I am sure they would have reported it ... Why are you sure? we all know gweggy has been taking lessons from numpty on law... ... so argue with him at your peril.. he is always right..mmm left.... but thinks hes right......not forgetting how profound his comments are... we just dont appreciate numpty and gweg... show more respect people! If you do nothing else worthwhile for the rest of your life cods, and I'm sure you probably won't, you really owe it to yourself to learn the meaning of two very important words. 'facts' 'objective' Until you do that, you're just making an absolute fool of yourself in this forum.

quite the little bully arent you.

Maqqa wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 5:56pm:

This man will take 100% responsibility when he stands in front of his maker - Allah Snack-Bar For us who are left behind what would drive a man to kill his children and himself? Was it society Was it marital Was it illness

macca he left a suicide note...as if there can be any reason at all to take those boys with him...

but for now that might give some insight to his family at least....

for me I cant imagine what would drive a person to do this....and why it seems to happen more and more to every day people who seem to have the world at their feet....

mothra wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2016 at 8:38pm: Maqqa wrote on Jan 8th, 2016 at 5:56pm: This man will take 100% responsibility when he stands in front of his maker - Allah Snack-Bar For us who are left behind what would drive a man to kill his children and himself? Was it society Was it marital Was it illness It was Islam Ban them. Then nuke them.

you are sounding more like all the other d*(k heads on here mothra.....thats a shame...

this is a terrible tragic topic.......

I dont think its the place for this type of comment.... >:( >:(

ian wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 12:22am:

quite the little bully arent you.

sadly you are quite correct..


I feel sorry for people like him....its almost impossible to comment on the subject for some ...

its all about them...as tragic as this is.....they want to talk about THEMSELVES>...and how smart they think they are...

I may start a personal thread for him.. so he can make all his comments without the shame of lowering this thread....

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/from-childhood-sweethearts-to-doublemurdersuicide-how-did-it-all-go-so-wrong/news-story/326070767eee5c8e97d2a024c05a0a24?sv=7c4a3fe5b5f144b68b9c4a912ddabbe0

DAMIEN Little packed his tiny boys Koda, 4, and baby Hunter, nine months, into his car, stopped at a McDonald’s drive-through and bought a takeaway coffee, and then he did the unthinkable.

The 34-year-old shot himself and his two boys in a bloody double-murder-suicide before driving off the wharf and plunging about 30m into Boston Bay in his Ford station wagon.

Clinical psychologist Dr Janet Hall told news.com.au that Little’s decision to visit McDonald’s was a common behaviour exhibited by a person “trying to normalise a situation”.

“I think there was a total commitment to what he was about to do but a kind of protective mechanism human beings have where they go into trying to normalise the situation,” she said.

“For him it’s like normalising it and saying ‘I’m not really about to kill myself and the kids’.

“It’s called cognitive dissonance — it means that you’re conflicted and to make sense out of it you grab hold of something that’s normal.”

Dr Hall said Little probably bought the kids something from McDonald’s as a “last supper”.

“You don’t go to McDonald’s with kids in the car and get away without getting them something,” she said.

“It would have been like a last supper or last treat for them. It’s a way of pretending this terrible tragedy isn’t going on.”
Eyre Peninsula Police superintendent Paul Yeomans released the shocking details of the autopsies on the bodies on Friday, pending a full report being provided to the Coroner.

“Autopsies have revealed that Mrs Little’s two young children suffered gunshot wounds prior to entering the water, as did Mr Little prior to driving over the wharf,” Supt Yeomans said.

“The coronial investigation is still ongoing and issues including domestic violence and mental health will form part of that report to the Coroner.”

South Australia police told news.com.au yesterday that no further details would be released in relation to the January 4 incident as the investigation continues.

ian wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 12:22am:

quite the little bully arent you.

I'm an educator.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:02pm:

ian wrote on Jan 9th, 2016 at 12:22am: quite the little bully arent you. I'm an educator.

Shame 'fixer' was taken!

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:01pm:

DAMIEN Little packed his tiny boys Koda, 4, and baby Hunter, nine months, into his car, stopped at a McDonald’s drive-through and bought a takeaway coffee, and then he did the unthinkable. The 34-year-old shot himself and his two boys in a bloody double-murder-suicide before driving off the wharf and plunging about 30m into Boston Bay in his Ford station wagon. Clinical psychologist Dr Janet Hall told news.com.au that Little’s decision to visit McDonald’s was a common behaviour exhibited by a person “trying to normalise a situation”. “I think there was a total commitment to what he was about to do but a kind of protective mechanism human beings have where they go into trying to normalise the situation,” she said. “For him it’s like normalising it and saying ‘I’m not really about to kill myself and the kids’. “It’s called cognitive dissonance — it means that you’re conflicted and to make sense out of it you grab hold of something that’s normal.” Dr Hall said Little probably bought the kids something from McDonald’s as a “last supper”. “You don’t go to McDonald’s with kids in the car and get away without getting them something,” she said. “It would have been like a last supper or last treat for them. It’s a way of pretending this terrible tragedy isn’t going on.” Eyre Peninsula Police superintendent Paul Yeomans released the shocking details of the autopsies on the bodies on Friday, pending a full report being provided to the Coroner. “Autopsies have revealed that Mrs Little’s two young children suffered gunshot wounds prior to entering the water, as did Mr Little prior to driving over the wharf,” Supt Yeomans said. “The coronial investigation is still ongoing and issues including domestic violence and mental health will form part of that report to the Coroner.” South Australia police told news.com.au yesterday that no further details would be released in relation to the January 4 incident as the investigation continues.

Yep, just an everyday guy normalizing murder.

:'(

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 12:36pm:

He drove the car off a wharf and they drowned, I don't see the relevance of the gun in this story.

Can you see the relevance yet?

"The 34-year-old shot himself and his two boys in a bloody double-murder-suicide before driving off the wharf and plunging about 30m into Boston Bay in his Ford station wagon."

“Autopsies have ... revealed that Mrs Little’s two young children suffered gunshot wounds prior to entering the water, as did Mr Little prior to driving over the wharf,” Supt Yeomans said.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/from-childhood-sweethearts-to-doublemurdersuicide-how-did-it-all-go-so-wrong/news-story/326070767eee5c8e97d2a024c05a0a24?sv=7c4a3fe5b5f144b68b9c4a912ddabbe0

                                  :-/

horrible horrible horrible.




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I just love the way these psychologists know what was going through his mind as he shot both his boys........

its alright darling daddy doesnt mean it...

right...I am beginning to think half the worlds problems are thanks to these so called experts...who have all the ANSWERS >:( >:( >:( >:(  not forgetting the fancy names for what ails us.

Aussie wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 2:02pm: ian wrote on Jan 9th, 2016 at 12:22am: quite the little bully arent you. I'm an educator. Shame 'fixer' was taken!

Why don't you and Greg get a Room? Smart-arsing each other.  Or start your own thread somewhere (maybe relationships where NOBODY goes). ;D

Cease and Desist interrupting a decent thread with idiotic, JUVENILE "comments". GROW THE F*U*C*K UP.

Its the ones you never expect to pose a threat that pose the biggest threat of all.

red baron wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Its the ones you never expect to pose a threat that pose the biggest threat of all.

Totally agree.  If they are "religious" then they are even more suspect.

WHY would a father shoot his little boys?  Why didn't he just shoot himself?  Did he attend the local Church? Did he believe in Heaven? Sometimes people with a MENTAL ILLNESS think outside the box ... i.e. HEAVEN. However, unless he had seen a Psychiatrist, who would know what he was thinking.

VERY sad.

red baron wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Its the ones you never expect to pose a threat that pose the biggest threat of all.

Bed-ridden and restrained quadriplegics?

red baron wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Its the ones you never expect to pose a threat that pose the biggest threat of all.

all I can think of if that happened to me.. I would go to the floor and never get up.....I do not think I could ever find a way to go on....

to think that you live with this person..and you have no idea what they are really capable of doing....how is it possible???....

I wouldnt be able to live with myself..

something had to be there.....we dont pay attention to each other anymore....we really dont..

we are a totally selfish society... :'( :'( :'(

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:29pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 2:21pm: Its the ones you never expect to pose a threat that pose the biggest threat of all. Bed-ridden and restrained quadriplegics?

You seemed to have strayed into a thread you are an alien of .......  the Old Age and Despots thread is around here, somewhere but you seemingly have lost your way.

Neferti wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 2:04pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 2:02pm: ian wrote on Jan 9th, 2016 at 12:22am: quite the little bully arent you. I'm an educator. Shame 'fixer' was taken! Why don't you and Greg get a Room? Smart-arsing each other.  Or start your own thread somewhere (maybe relationships where NOBODY goes). ;D Cease and Desist interrupting a decent thread with idiotic, JUVENILE "comments". GROW THE F*U*C*K UP.

Given you have interrupted the Thread with abuse, I'll correct just one obvious lie.  You are often there at Relationships reading away quite happily.

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:30pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 2:21pm: Its the ones you never expect to pose a threat that pose the biggest threat of all. all I can think of if that happened to me.. I would go to the floor and never get up.....I do not think I could ever find a way to go on.... to think that you live with this person..and you have no idea what they are really capable of doing....how is it possible???.... I wouldnt be able to live with myself.. something had to be there.....we dont pay attention to each other anymore....we really dont.. we are a totally selfish society... :'( :'( :'(

People are capable of things they don't expect they are. It's almost impossible to tell what caused this. Perhaps the way he suffered was something he couldn't bear the though of his children ever having to experience.

Perhaps he a brain tumor.

Perhaps he hated life and all those who did not.

Really no way to tell from the information we have.

Kytro wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 8:22am:

People are capable of things they don't expect they are. It's almost impossible to tell what caused this. Perhaps the way he suffered was something he couldn't bear the though of his children ever having to experience. Perhaps he a brain tumor. Perhaps he hated life and all those who did not. Really no way to tell from the information we have.

well most of the info we have seen.. has been positive...great husband great father great neighbour..

you are right of course...how can anyone know beyond a reasonable doubt.... he INTENDED KILLING THEM....

couldnt possible be because he had a really nasty streak through him...

I have figured that much out. ::)

cods wrote on Jan 13^th, 2016 at 9:51am:

you are right of course...how can anyone know beyond a reasonable doubt.... he INTENDED KILLING THEM.... couldnt possible be because he had a really nasty streak through him... I have figured that much out. ::)

That's also possible.

Neferti wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 2:34pm:

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 2:29pm: red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 2:21pm: Its the ones you never expect to pose a threat that pose the biggest threat of all. Bed-ridden and restrained quadriplegics? You seemed to have strayed into a thread you are an alien of .......  the Old Age and Despots thread is around here, somewhere but you seemingly have lost your way.

That thread is in Neferti's tortured mind and I would have to tunnel through 150 mm of Neferti's cranial bone to get there.