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Message started by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:04pm

Title: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:04pm
Can anyone name the last time we heard of an Israeli suicide bomber killing himself/herself in Palestine?

Or an Israeli suicide bomber anywhere around the world?

How about a Buddhist suicide bomber?

Confucius suicide bomber?

Or people who worship tree stumps putting on a bomb vest

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by cods on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:22pm
have you lost the PLOT again macca???

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:24pm

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by Aussie on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:26pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:04pm:
Can anyone name the last time we heard of an Israeli suicide bomber killing himself/herself in Palestine?

Or an Israeli suicide bomber anywhere around the world?

How about a Buddhist suicide bomber?

Confucius suicide bomber?

Or people who worship tree stumps putting on a bomb vest


What need does Israel have for such crude methods of killing people?

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:41pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:04pm:
Can anyone name the last time we heard of an Israeli suicide bomber killing himself/herself in Palestine?

Or an Israeli suicide bomber anywhere around the world?

How about a Buddhist suicide bomber?

Confucius suicide bomber?

Or people who worship tree stumps putting on a bomb vest


Maqqa suicide bombs himself.

It appears that Jews invented suicide bombers in 1st century AD to kill their own people:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attack


Quote:
History, pre-1980[edit]
Until the second half of the twentieth century most suicide attacks occurred in a military context.

The 1st Century AD Jewish Sicarii sect are thought to have carried suicidal attacks[18] against Hellenized Jews they considered immoral collaborators.[37] The Islamic Hashishiyeen (Assassins)sect of Ismaili Shi'a Muslims successfully assassinated two caliphs, and many viziers, sultans and Crusader leaders over the course of 300 years,[38] before being annihilated by Mongol invaders. Hashishiyeen were known for their targeting of the powerful, their use of the dagger as a weapon (rather than something safer for the assassin such as a crossbow), and for making no attempt to escape after completing their killing.[39]

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:52pm
So the jews invented suicide bombings 1st century AD i.e. between year 1 and 100

Its now the year 2016

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by wally1 on Jan 4th, 2016 at 4:20pm
First ever suicide bombing done by a israeli


"Almost every day we hear comments such as "The Oslo Accords are responsible for the bus bombings", "Because of the Oslo Accords over a thousand citizens have been murdered," and so on. Is this in fact the case? Exactly ten years ago, on Purim of 1994, early in the morning, Baruch Goldstein entered the mosque at the Cave of the Patriarchs and murdered 29 praying Arabs and injured many more. From the date of the signing of the Oslo Accords, on the previous September 13, until the massacre perpetrated by Goldstein on February 25, 22 Israelis were killed, ten of them within the Green Line. A similar number to those killed during the years of the first Intifada. During this period there was not a single mass attack and there were no suicide bombers with explosive belts blowing themselves up in buses.

Moreover, until 40 days after the massacre at the Cave of the Patriarchs, self-detonating terrorists were an unknown phenomenon in Israel. Two weeks after Goldstein's attack, the following appeared in the Hebrew daily Yediot Aharonot : "Hamas yesterday distributed a special proclamation in the territories threatening to perpetrate five large attacks in retaliation for the massacre at the Cave of the Patriarchs. This was issued by the operations room of the Iz a-Din al-Kassam Brigade, the military arm of the Hamas". According to the Muslim religion, the first day of remembrance for the dead is marked on the 40th day after death. Indeed, the first suicide bombing in Israel took place in Afula on 6.4.94, exactly 40 days after Goldstein's murderous attack in the mosque. The Afula massacre, in which 8 Israelis were murdered, was the first retaliatory attack perpetrated by the Hamas. On 7.4.94, a day after the suicide attack in Afula, Tommy Lapid wrote the following in Maariv: "The murderous attack in Afula will first and foremost go down in history as revenge for the attack in Hebron. The victims of the attack in Afula are victims of Dr. Baruch Goldstein, just as were those Moslems worshipers at the Cave of the Patriarchs." The second revenge attack took place a week later, on the Day of Remembrance for IDF Fallen Soldiers, April 13 on a bus in Hadera,. These two suicide attacks occurred while the IDF was still in control of all Palestinian cities and while Arafat was still in Tunisia. They were followed by suicide attacks in Tel Aviv (Bus No. 5), Beit Lid, Ramat Gan and Jerusalem. After several months of quiet, it seemed as if the suicide attacks had come to an end. Then the bomb "engineer" – Yihyah Ayash, was "taken out". This was followed by another spate of suicide attacks, the first of which occurred in Jerusalem (Bus No. 18) -- two years to the day after the murders perpetrated by Goldstein.

Goldstein's intention was to sabotage the Oslo Accords and to prevent the transfer of Hebron to Palestinian Authority control together with the other large Palestinian cities in the West Bank. A week after his deed, Goldstein's widow was quoted as saying, "Baruch was not a psychopath. He knew exactly what he was doing. He planned it in order to halt the peace talks. He did it for the Jewish People". The problem of suicide bombers, one that Israel has yet not found a solution for, is the result of the massacre in the Cave of the Patriarchs. Presumably, the murder of 29 worshippers who were shot in the back would have resulted in a bombed bus in the heart of Israel whenever it happened, regardless of time and of who headed the government. The murders committed by Goldstein and the consequent blowing up of buses undermined the trust between the two sides, caused a decline of support for the accords by both sides and was the main cause of Netanyahu's ascent to power in the 1996 elections, which marked the final fatal blow to the Oslo Agreements and the final collapse of the peace process."

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by tickleandrose on Jan 4th, 2016 at 4:34pm
They have machine guns, tanks, fighter jets, and a nuclear warhead.   No need for suicide bomber.  Plenty of other more lethal means, and they know how to use it. 

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 4th, 2016 at 4:43pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:52pm:
So the jews invented suicide bombings 1st century AD i.e. between year 1 and 100

Its now the year 2016


Zionists invented Middle East terrorism against the poms.Killed 91 people with King David hotel bombing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing


Quote:
King David Hotel bombing
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
King David Hotel Bombing
Part of the Jewish insurgency in Palestine
KD 1946.JPG
The hotel after the bombing
Location      Jerusalem, Mandatory Palestine
Date      July 22, 1946
12:37pm (UTC+2)
Target      King David Hotel
Attack type
Bombing
Deaths      91
Non-fatal injuries
46
Perpetrators      Irgun
The King David Hotel bombing was a terrorist[1] attack[2][3][4][5][6][7][8] carried out on Monday July 22, 1946 by the militant Zionist underground organization Irgun on the British administrative headquarters for Palestine, which was housed in the southern wing[9] of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem.[10][11][12] 91 people of various nationalities were killed and 46 were injured.[13]
The hotel was the site of the central offices of the British Mandatory authorities of Palestine, principally the Secretariat of the Government of Palestine and the Headquarters of the British Armed Forces in Palestine and Transjordan.[13][14] The attack initially had the approval of the Haganah (the principal Jewish paramilitary group in Palestine). It was conceived as a response to Operation Agatha (a series of widespread raids, including one on the Jewish Agency, conducted by the British authorities) and was the deadliest directed at the British during the Mandate era (1920–1948).[13][14]
Disguised as Arabs,[15] the Irgun planted a bomb in the basement of the main building of the hotel, whose southern wing housed the Mandate Secretariat and a few offices of the British military headquarters. The Irgun sent warnings by telephone, including one to the hotel's own switchboard, which the staff decided to ignore, but none directly to the British authorities.[14] A possible reason why the warning was ignored was that hoax bomb warnings were rife at the time.[14] From the fact that a bomb search had already been carried out, it appears that a hoax call or tip-off had been received at the hotel earlier that day.[13] Subsequent telephone calls from a concerned Palestine Post staff member and the police caused increasing alarm, and the hotel manager was notified. In the closing minutes before the explosion, he called an unknown British officer, but no evacuation was ordered.[14] The ensuing explosion caused the collapse of the western half of the southern wing of the hotel.[14] Some of the inflicted deaths and injuries occurred in the road outside the hotel and in adjacent buildings.[14] Controversy has arisen over the timing and adequacy of the warnings and the reasons why the hotel was not evacuated.[14]

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 5:42pm
So that happened in 1946 - I wonder if they pulled out their iPhone and checked for the correct time zones

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2016 at 6:51pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:52pm:
So the jews invented suicide bombings 1st century AD i.e. between year 1 and 100

Its now the year 2016


Forgive and forget, hey Maqqa?

Just like you did with your mate Martin Bryant.


Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 4th, 2016 at 7:30pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:52pm:
So the jews invented suicide bombings 1st century AD i.e. between year 1 and 100

Its now the year 2016


Not only that. They committed the atrocity against other Jews. How perverse is that?

I wonder if that was the first false flag attack.

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by gandalf on Jan 4th, 2016 at 7:51pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 5:42pm:
So that happened in 1946 - I wonder if they pulled out their iPhone and checked for the correct time zones


You just saw an example from 1994. I also consider the more than daily American (and almost exclusively non-muslim) mass shooters who kill innocents with the specific intention of getting shot and killed by police as no different to the orthodox suicide bomber.

Also the pioneers of the modern suicide bomber were the Tamil tigers.

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:12pm

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 7:30pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:52pm:
So the jews invented suicide bombings 1st century AD i.e. between year 1 and 100

Its now the year 2016


Not only that. They committed the atrocity against other Jews. How perverse is that?

I wonder if that was the first false flag attack.


Love a bit of anti semitism in the morning...

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:27pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 5:42pm:
So that happened in 1946 - I wonder if they pulled out their iPhone and checked for the correct time zones


You just saw an example from 1994. I also consider the more than daily American (and almost exclusively non-muslim) mass shooters who kill innocents with the specific intention of getting shot and killed by police as no different to the orthodox suicide bomber.

Also the pioneers of the modern suicide bomber were the Tamil tigers.


It gets down to ideology

Muslim extremists - convert EVERYONE by the sword or suicide vest

Tamil Tigers - civil war

Mass shooting - copy cat killing

It's interesting that you believe there is no difference to the orthodox suicide bomber. Didn't realise there was an "unorthodox" suicide bomber. Does this person pull the trigger and nothing happens?

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:40pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 5:42pm:
So that happened in 1946 - I wonder if they pulled out their iPhone and checked for the correct time zones


Zionists killed 91 people. Maqqa rejoices that?

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by gandalf on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:52pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:27pm:
It gets down to ideology

Muslim extremists - convert EVERYONE by the sword or suicide vest

Tamil Tigers - civil war

Mass shooting - copy cat killing


Are innocent victims of copy cat killings or civil wars somehow less dead or mamed?

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by Aussie on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:56pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:52pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:27pm:
It gets down to ideology

Muslim extremists - convert EVERYONE by the sword or suicide vest

Tamil Tigers - civil war

Mass shooting - copy cat killing


Are innocent victims of copy cat killings or civil wars somehow less dead or mamed?


Careful there Gandalf.  That's my point......dead = dead.  Gun, knife, gallows, guillotine, strangulation.....etc etc........... is dead.

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by gandalf on Jan 4th, 2016 at 9:27pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:56pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:52pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:27pm:
It gets down to ideology

Muslim extremists - convert EVERYONE by the sword or suicide vest

Tamil Tigers - civil war

Mass shooting - copy cat killing


Are innocent victims of copy cat killings or civil wars somehow less dead or mamed?


Careful there Gandalf.  That's my point......dead = dead.  Gun, knife, gallows, guillotine, strangulation.....etc etc........... is dead.


It goes to the heart of our hypocricy on these matters - Islamist terrorists are the most vile people on earth because they use their sinister beliefs to justify murder of innocents. But western militaries are infinitely more civilised when we kill civilians by the thousands by dropping bombs on them. We use limp wristed language like 'collateral damage' to pretend we are somehow morally superior than the terrorists.

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by Maqqa on Jan 5th, 2016 at 7:45am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 9:27pm:
It goes to the heart of our hypocricy on these matters - Islamist terrorists are the most vile people on earth because they use their sinister beliefs to justify murder of innocents. But western militaries are infinitely more civilised when we kill civilians by the thousands by dropping bombs on them. We use limp wristed language like 'collateral damage' to pretend we are somehow morally superior than the terrorists.


So cause and effect has no place in this conflict?

Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber
Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 5th, 2016 at 12:56pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 5th, 2016 at 7:45am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 9:27pm:
It goes to the heart of our hypocricy on these matters - Islamist terrorists are the most vile people on earth because they use their sinister beliefs to justify murder of innocents. But western militaries are infinitely more civilised when we kill civilians by the thousands by dropping bombs on them. We use limp wristed language like 'collateral damage' to pretend we are somehow morally superior than the terrorists.


So cause and effect has no place in this conflict?


Cause: bomb.
Effect: death.

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