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General Discussion >> General Board >> Israeli suicide bomber http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451883874 Message started by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:04pm |
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Title: Israeli suicide bomber Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:04pm
Can anyone name the last time we heard of an Israeli suicide bomber killing himself/herself in Palestine?
Or an Israeli suicide bomber anywhere around the world? How about a Buddhist suicide bomber? Confucius suicide bomber? Or people who worship tree stumps putting on a bomb vest |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by cods on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:22pm
have you lost the PLOT again macca???
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:24pm If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by Aussie on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:26pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:04pm:
What need does Israel have for such crude methods of killing people? |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:41pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:04pm:
Maqqa suicide bombs himself. It appears that Jews invented suicide bombers in 1st century AD to kill their own people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attack Quote:
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:52pm
So the jews invented suicide bombings 1st century AD i.e. between year 1 and 100
Its now the year 2016 |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by wally1 on Jan 4th, 2016 at 4:20pm
First ever suicide bombing done by a israeli
"Almost every day we hear comments such as "The Oslo Accords are responsible for the bus bombings", "Because of the Oslo Accords over a thousand citizens have been murdered," and so on. Is this in fact the case? Exactly ten years ago, on Purim of 1994, early in the morning, Baruch Goldstein entered the mosque at the Cave of the Patriarchs and murdered 29 praying Arabs and injured many more. From the date of the signing of the Oslo Accords, on the previous September 13, until the massacre perpetrated by Goldstein on February 25, 22 Israelis were killed, ten of them within the Green Line. A similar number to those killed during the years of the first Intifada. During this period there was not a single mass attack and there were no suicide bombers with explosive belts blowing themselves up in buses. Moreover, until 40 days after the massacre at the Cave of the Patriarchs, self-detonating terrorists were an unknown phenomenon in Israel. Two weeks after Goldstein's attack, the following appeared in the Hebrew daily Yediot Aharonot : "Hamas yesterday distributed a special proclamation in the territories threatening to perpetrate five large attacks in retaliation for the massacre at the Cave of the Patriarchs. This was issued by the operations room of the Iz a-Din al-Kassam Brigade, the military arm of the Hamas". According to the Muslim religion, the first day of remembrance for the dead is marked on the 40th day after death. Indeed, the first suicide bombing in Israel took place in Afula on 6.4.94, exactly 40 days after Goldstein's murderous attack in the mosque. The Afula massacre, in which 8 Israelis were murdered, was the first retaliatory attack perpetrated by the Hamas. On 7.4.94, a day after the suicide attack in Afula, Tommy Lapid wrote the following in Maariv: "The murderous attack in Afula will first and foremost go down in history as revenge for the attack in Hebron. The victims of the attack in Afula are victims of Dr. Baruch Goldstein, just as were those Moslems worshipers at the Cave of the Patriarchs." The second revenge attack took place a week later, on the Day of Remembrance for IDF Fallen Soldiers, April 13 on a bus in Hadera,. These two suicide attacks occurred while the IDF was still in control of all Palestinian cities and while Arafat was still in Tunisia. They were followed by suicide attacks in Tel Aviv (Bus No. 5), Beit Lid, Ramat Gan and Jerusalem. After several months of quiet, it seemed as if the suicide attacks had come to an end. Then the bomb "engineer" – Yihyah Ayash, was "taken out". This was followed by another spate of suicide attacks, the first of which occurred in Jerusalem (Bus No. 18) -- two years to the day after the murders perpetrated by Goldstein. Goldstein's intention was to sabotage the Oslo Accords and to prevent the transfer of Hebron to Palestinian Authority control together with the other large Palestinian cities in the West Bank. A week after his deed, Goldstein's widow was quoted as saying, "Baruch was not a psychopath. He knew exactly what he was doing. He planned it in order to halt the peace talks. He did it for the Jewish People". The problem of suicide bombers, one that Israel has yet not found a solution for, is the result of the massacre in the Cave of the Patriarchs. Presumably, the murder of 29 worshippers who were shot in the back would have resulted in a bombed bus in the heart of Israel whenever it happened, regardless of time and of who headed the government. The murders committed by Goldstein and the consequent blowing up of buses undermined the trust between the two sides, caused a decline of support for the accords by both sides and was the main cause of Netanyahu's ascent to power in the 1996 elections, which marked the final fatal blow to the Oslo Agreements and the final collapse of the peace process." |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by tickleandrose on Jan 4th, 2016 at 4:34pm
They have machine guns, tanks, fighter jets, and a nuclear warhead. No need for suicide bomber. Plenty of other more lethal means, and they know how to use it.
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 4th, 2016 at 4:43pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:52pm:
Zionists invented Middle East terrorism against the poms.Killed 91 people with King David hotel bombing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing Quote:
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 5:42pm
So that happened in 1946 - I wonder if they pulled out their iPhone and checked for the correct time zones
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2016 at 6:51pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:52pm:
Forgive and forget, hey Maqqa? Just like you did with your mate Martin Bryant. |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 4th, 2016 at 7:30pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 3:52pm:
Not only that. They committed the atrocity against other Jews. How perverse is that? I wonder if that was the first false flag attack. |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by gandalf on Jan 4th, 2016 at 7:51pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 5:42pm:
You just saw an example from 1994. I also consider the more than daily American (and almost exclusively non-muslim) mass shooters who kill innocents with the specific intention of getting shot and killed by police as no different to the orthodox suicide bomber. Also the pioneers of the modern suicide bomber were the Tamil tigers. |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:12pm Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 7:30pm:
Love a bit of anti semitism in the morning... |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:27pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 7:51pm:
It gets down to ideology Muslim extremists - convert EVERYONE by the sword or suicide vest Tamil Tigers - civil war Mass shooting - copy cat killing It's interesting that you believe there is no difference to the orthodox suicide bomber. Didn't realise there was an "unorthodox" suicide bomber. Does this person pull the trigger and nothing happens? |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:40pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 5:42pm:
Zionists killed 91 people. Maqqa rejoices that? |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by gandalf on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:52pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:27pm:
Are innocent victims of copy cat killings or civil wars somehow less dead or mamed? |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by Aussie on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:56pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:52pm:
Careful there Gandalf. That's my point......dead = dead. Gun, knife, gallows, guillotine, strangulation.....etc etc........... is dead. |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by gandalf on Jan 4th, 2016 at 9:27pm Aussie wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:56pm:
It goes to the heart of our hypocricy on these matters - Islamist terrorists are the most vile people on earth because they use their sinister beliefs to justify murder of innocents. But western militaries are infinitely more civilised when we kill civilians by the thousands by dropping bombs on them. We use limp wristed language like 'collateral damage' to pretend we are somehow morally superior than the terrorists. |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by Maqqa on Jan 5th, 2016 at 7:45am polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 9:27pm:
So cause and effect has no place in this conflict? |
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Title: Re: Israeli suicide bomber Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 5th, 2016 at 12:56pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 5th, 2016 at 7:45am:
Cause: bomb. Effect: death. |
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