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Message started by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:01am

Title: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:01am
http://www.allenbwest.com/2016/01/muslim-meatpackers-walk-off-job-over-prayers-this-happens-immediately/

Some people just want something to complain about.

Cargill Meat Solutions owns a beef processing plant in Fort Morgan, CO which employs a large number of Somali Muslims. The plant had accommodated these employees, allowing them to take breaks to pray in 5-10 minute blocks, and even created a reflection area used by Muslim employees in April 2009.

So here’s the ridiculous cause of outrage: they recently changed the policy to allow only two 5-minute prayer breaks per shift.

Muslims must pray five times a day according to their religion – but this doesn’t necessarily mean it would interfere with work. Praying according to a schedule isn’t always seen as necessary – and even in Muslim countries like Iran, prayers are commonly “made up for” after work and school.

So management at the plant wasn’t exactly out of line when they reportedly told the workers “If you want to pray, go home.”

But apparently this warranted protest, and nearly 200 workers staged a walkout.

So how did the plant respond? Well, it’s almost Reaganesque. As the Denver Post reported:

About 150 workers, most of them immigrants from Somalia, have been fired from a meat packing and distribution plant on Colorado’s Eastern Plains for walking off the job to protest a workplace prayer dispute.

Ten days ago more than 200 workers walked off their jobs at Cargill Meat Solutions in Fort Morgan.

Some workers later returned, but the majority stayed away as representatives of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) negotiated on their behalf.

On Tuesday Cargill, through its attorneys, fired the workers who were holding out, said Jaylani Hussein, a spokesman and executive director of CAIR.

Apparently building a prayer space and allotting time to allow 2/5ths of their daily prayers wasn’t enough. Liberals would likely see it as ridiculous if Christians were behaving in this manner.

Just a random thought: while we’re on the topic of religious accommodations on the job, how would liberals react if a Muslim baker refused to bake a cake for a gay wedding?

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:02am
Remember that it's an 8 hours shift and they are allowed to have 2 prayer breaks

And they only have to pray every 5 hours

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:33am

I call bullshit on this story.


Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:34am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:33am:
I call bullshit on this story.


get a job ya bum..

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:41am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:33am:
I call bullshit on this story.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3380880/One-ninety-Muslim-workers-meat-processing-plant-fired-striking-told-not-pray-shift.html

http://www.9news.com/story/money/business/2015/12/31/meat-packing-plant-muslim-prayers/78122644/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/31/muslim-workers-at-colorado-meat-packing-plant-fire/

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/02/us/colorado-muslim-workers-fired-prayer-dispute/

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Sir lastnail on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:42am
more f.cking idiots and their god gobbing muck :(

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:43am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:02am:
Remember that it's an 8 hours shift and they are allowed to have 2 prayer breaks

And they only have to pray every 5 hours


they don't HAVE to.
they choose to .

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by gandalf on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:43am
This story reeks of BS.

It contradicts what the company itself is claiming - that nothing has changed regarding the prayer policy:


Quote:
"At no time did Cargill prevent people from prayer at Fort Morgan. Nor have we changed policies related to religious accommodation and attendance. This has been mischaracterised."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/12077549/200-Muslim-meat-packers-fired-over-prayer-dispute.html

Also, there is no evidence that the walkout was due to some demand that they wanted more than two 5 minute breaks. The walkout was due to allegedly being told by management "if you want to pray, go home" - strongly suggesting that prayer times were banned altogether.

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:48am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:43am:
This story reeks of BS.

It contradicts what the company itself is claiming - that nothing has changed regarding the prayer policy:


Quote:
"At no time did Cargill prevent people from prayer at Fort Morgan. Nor have we changed policies related to religious accommodation and attendance. This has been mischaracterised."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/12077549/200-Muslim-meat-packers-fired-over-prayer-dispute.html

Also, there is no evidence that the walkout was due to some demand that they wanted more than two 5 minute breaks. The walkout was due to allegedly being told by management "if you want to pray, go home" - strongly suggesting that prayer times were banned altogether.



I have included another 4 reference articles

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:51am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:43am:
This story reeks of BS.


It certainly does.

In other news, Muslims cancel Christmas.


Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:54am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:51am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:43am:
This story reeks of BS.


It certainly does.

In other news, Muslims cancel Christmas.


Sultan Brunei did exactly that

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:54am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:33am:
I call bullshit on this story.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3380880/One-ninety-Muslim-workers-meat-processing-plant-fired-striking-told-not-pray-shift.html

http://www.9news.com/story/money/business/2015/12/31/meat-packing-plant-muslim-prayers/78122644/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/31/muslim-workers-at-colorado-meat-packing-plant-fire/

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/02/us/colorado-muslim-workers-fired-prayer-dispute/


Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:55am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:54am:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:33am:
I call bullshit on this story.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3380880/One-ninety-Muslim-workers-meat-processing-plant-fired-striking-told-not-pray-shift.html

http://www.9news.com/story/money/business/2015/12/31/meat-packing-plant-muslim-prayers/78122644/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/31/muslim-workers-at-colorado-meat-packing-plant-fire/

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/02/us/colorado-muslim-workers-fired-prayer-dispute/


I call bullshit on this story.


Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by ian on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:00pm
5 news sources say you are wrong and the story is correct. Wheres your source?

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:55am:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:54am:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:33am:
I call bullshit on this story.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3380880/One-ninety-Muslim-workers-meat-processing-plant-fired-striking-told-not-pray-shift.html

http://www.9news.com/story/money/business/2015/12/31/meat-packing-plant-muslim-prayers/78122644/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/31/muslim-workers-at-colorado-meat-packing-plant-fire/

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/02/us/colorado-muslim-workers-fired-prayer-dispute/


I call bullshit on this story.


Of course you do

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:01pm

ian wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:00pm:
5 news sources say you are wrong and the story is correct.


You believe what you want to believe.

I call bullshit.


Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by ian on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:04pm
white flag accepted. Next.

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:11pm

ian wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:04pm:
white flag accepted. Next.


No flag.

I still call bullshit on this story.


Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:33am:
I call bullshit on this story.


Maqqa = bovine excrement

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by the good ole boys on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:16pm
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DWhat a great story. The US has had it with Muslims.

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:21pm

the good ole boys wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
What a great story.


They were packing goat meat, Homo.


Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by the good ole boys on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:25pm
My father worked in a abattoirs for 30 years . I worked at the same place on a casual basis. It's a very faced paced environment. Meat goes of quick so time is the essence. You can't just walk off like you can in other jobs. The chain of production gets broken. Obviously the company thought they were a problem. Religion is meant for sunday and home.

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:11pm:

ian wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:04pm:
white flag accepted. Next.


No flag.

I still call bullshit on this story.


I call bullshit on peccahead calling bullshit.

Peccahead must be a member of the deaf dumb and blind society when it comes to Islam.

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:32pm

the good ole boys wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:25pm:
My father worked.


Stop telling lies.


Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:33pm
The company probably employed these people because nobody else wanted the job. They will have to beg them to come back.

How desirable is a job in an abattoir or meat packing plant?

Only cretins like the right wing Islamophobes on Ozpolitic would work there.

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Gnads on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:33pm
Pizz them off ... even smokers don't get that sort of accommodation in a meat works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZZlo0WZ_iU&feature=youtu.be

And take the apologist toadies with you

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:43pm

Gnads wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
Pizz them off ... even smokers don't get that sort of accommodation in a meat works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZZlo0WZ_iU&feature=youtu.be

And take the apologist toadies with you


I can donate a truckload of closet poms. Where do you want them dumped?

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 4th, 2016 at 1:04pm

the good ole boys wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DWhat a great story. The US has had it with Muslims.


Yes, that is what I can see too

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by the good ole boys on Jan 4th, 2016 at 1:05pm

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
The company probably employed these people because nobody else wanted the job. They will have to beg them to come back.

How desirable is a job in an abattoir or meat packing plant?

Only cretins like the right wing Islamophobes on Ozpolitic would work there.
I suppose you suck meat for a living?

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 4th, 2016 at 1:06pm

the good ole boys wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:25pm:
My father worked in a abattoirs for 30 years . I worked at the same place on a casual basis. It's a very faced paced environment. Meat goes of quick so time is the essence. You can't just walk off like you can in other jobs. The chain of production gets broken. Obviously the company thought they were a problem. Religion is meant for sunday and home.


I had not realised that, thanks for your words of experience.
Yes, there would be a very limited time meat could be in an abattoir. That's only one step in the path to the customers plate.

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 4th, 2016 at 1:07pm

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
The company probably employed these people because nobody else wanted the job. They will have to beg them to come back.

How desirable is a job in an abattoir or meat packing plant?

Only cretins like the right wing Islamophobes on Ozpolitic would work there.


I'ld be happy to work there. At times I have been out of work.

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by the good ole boys on Jan 4th, 2016 at 1:09pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 1:04pm:

the good ole boys wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DWhat a great story. The US has had it with Muslims.


Yes, that is what I can see too
I love America sprint.

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by the good ole boys on Jan 4th, 2016 at 1:12pm

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
The company probably employed these people because nobody else wanted the job. They will have to beg them to come back.

How desirable is a job in an abattoir or meat packing plant?

Only cretins like the right wing Islamophobes on Ozpolitic would work there.
Sun Tzu is a job snob. He believes this type of work is only good enough for cretins and Somalians .Racist pig.


Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 4th, 2016 at 1:40pm

the good ole boys wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 1:09pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 1:04pm:

the good ole boys wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DWhat a great story. The US has had it with Muslims.


Yes, that is what I can see too
I love America sprint.


Yes, the world was at it's best when the US was at her peak.

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 2:33pm

the good ole boys wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
The company probably employed these people because nobody else wanted the job. They will have to beg them to come back.

How desirable is a job in an abattoir or meat packing plant?

Only cretins like the right wing Islamophobes on Ozpolitic would work there.
I suppose you suck meat for a living?


The company employs 155,000 in 68 countries

200 Muslims cause them problems

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by gandalf on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:12pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:48am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 11:43am:
This story reeks of BS.

It contradicts what the company itself is claiming - that nothing has changed regarding the prayer policy:


Quote:
"At no time did Cargill prevent people from prayer at Fort Morgan. Nor have we changed policies related to religious accommodation and attendance. This has been mischaracterised."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/12077549/200-Muslim-meat-packers-fired-over-prayer-dispute.html

Also, there is no evidence that the walkout was due to some demand that they wanted more than two 5 minute breaks. The walkout was due to allegedly being told by management "if you want to pray, go home" - strongly suggesting that prayer times were banned altogether.



I have included another 4 reference articles


Yes I read them - and not one of them backs up the BS spun in the OP article.

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Maqqa on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:28pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:12pm:
Yes I read them - and not one of them backs up the BS spun in the OP article.


They are supposed to give perspective to the same event

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:35pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:28pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:12pm:
Yes I read them - and not one of them backs up the BS spun in the OP article.


They are supposed to give perspective to the same event


Truth is better than false perspective.

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by innocentbystander. on Jan 4th, 2016 at 8:53pm
Some of them got caught rooting the carcasses too. 

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by the good ole boys on Jan 5th, 2016 at 3:43am
That's alright, its halal.

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Maqqa on Jan 5th, 2016 at 7:48am
The carcass caught syphillis and had to be put down

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 5th, 2016 at 7:58am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 2:33pm:

the good ole boys wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
The company probably employed these people because nobody else wanted the job. They will have to beg them to come back.

How desirable is a job in an abattoir or meat packing plant?

Only cretins like the right wing Islamophobes on Ozpolitic would work there.
I suppose you suck meat for a living?


The company employs 155,000 in 68 countries

200 Muslims cause them problems


Well, not anymore. Problem solved and lesson learnt

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by the good ole boys on Jan 5th, 2016 at 8:23am
Too right, Sprint. Don't take your eyes off the carcasses.

Title: Re: Muslims strike over prayers rescheduling
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 5th, 2016 at 5:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:11pm:

ian wrote on Jan 4th, 2016 at 12:04pm:
white flag accepted. Next.


No flag.

I still call bullshit on this story.



you are more of a sissy-pants than you used to be. now you wont accept 5 media reports of an event?


you were already pretty worthless. this just completes the process.

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