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Title: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 5:38am

http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/peter-dutton-left-redfaced-after-texting-mishap-20160103-glyll6.html

Well done warne ::)

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Dnarever on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:01am

They don't like being caught out the poor old Liberals.

You wouldn't want any sensitive information in this dopes hands you would never know who he might send it to.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by macman on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:09am

How has this clown survived as a minister? He must have something on Turdbull to still be there after all his f$%^ups.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Dnarever on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:18am

macman wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:09am:

How has this clown survived as a minister? He must have something on Turdbull to still be there after all his f$%^ups.

The primary criteria for a Liberal ministership is who you support in the leadership ballot.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by mothra on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:23am

What an idiot. It's like the Liberals are determined to embarrass us as much as possible on a global scale.

Not only that but referring to a woman as a witch in a derogatory way is highly sexist.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Saul Goodman on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:58am

He is not the smartest card in the pack is he?

;D

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Dnarever on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:32am

mothra wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

What an idiot. It's like the Liberals are determined to embarrass us as much as possible on a global scale.

Not only that but referring to a woman as a witch in a derogatory way is highly sexist.

Not really he is comparing her in terms reserved for a female Prime Minister, high praise I would think.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Dnarever on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:35am

Saul Goodman wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:58am:

He is not the smartest card in the pack is he?

;D

Unfortunately as embarrassing as it is he is very competitive in the pack he is in.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Kiron22 on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am

The Liberal party is filled with probably the dumbest ****s in Parliament. How Dutton, Ley or Hunt got into leadership positions in this country is beyond me. While Hunt I guess you can explain as basically the real world Smithers, Dutton and Ley are the human equivalent of potatoes.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by The Grappler on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 11:49am

Kiron22 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

You forgot Cash - who could forget the Fremantle Cockney voice rants.... gutter trash elevated to the sewer.....

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 11:59am

macman wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:09am:

How has this clown survived as a minister?

The Libs don't have many people qualified to be ministers.

Tony Abbott was the Prime Minister, remember.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 11:59am:

macman wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:09am:

How has this clown survived as a minister?

The Libs don't have many people qualified to be ministers.

Tony Abbott was the Prime Minister, remember.

Many a political history book will also include Johnny Howard in that saga of nothingness 8-) 8-)

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:11pm

mothra wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

What an idiot. It's like the Liberals are determined to embarrass us as much as possible on a global scale.

Not only that but referring to a woman as a witch in a derogatory way is highly sexist.

How else is a witch to be referenced? The whole literature is derogatory, not to mention the bloodthirsty reality that it invoked.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by cods on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:12pm

oh look the lefties have another Dutton thread...

goodness me THIS IS BIG news all right..

the excitement might even flush shortarse out of his bunker...

goodness me.. news flash news flash..

the lefties have something to crow about at long last...

is this the 3rd or 4th thread on this...

wow A BIG Day ALRIGHT>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Saul Goodman on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:17pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 11:49am:

Kiron22 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

You forgot Cash - who could forget the Fremantle Cockney voice rants.... gutter trash elevated to the sewer.....

Is that Cockney, it is flaming grating what ever it is!

She does sort of drone on.

Can you imagine having sex with her?

I wont go any further..........

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Aussie on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:20pm

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

Is this the same 'cods' who wailed loud and long when I also complained about multiple Threads on the same issue? Is it, 'cods?' "Shurely not."

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by davo on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:22pm

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:22pm

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

look over there: there's no copper internet over there ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Go the innovation special hop start to jewish silver tongue ville yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:23pm

Saul Goodman wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 11:49am:

Kiron22 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

You forgot Cash - who could forget the Fremantle Cockney voice rants.... gutter trash elevated to the sewer.....

Is that Cockney, it is flaming grating what ever it is!

She does sort of drone on.

Can you imagine having sex with her?

I wont go any further..........

If she was turned around yeh: but how do you keep a mutt like that turned around?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:25pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:01am:

They don't like being caught out the poor old Liberals.

You wouldn't want any sensitive information in this dopes hands you would never know who he might send it to.

More importantly: why was her number on his phone?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Saul Goodman on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:27pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:23pm:

Saul Goodman wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 11:49am:

Kiron22 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

You forgot Cash - who could forget the Fremantle Cockney voice rants.... gutter trash elevated to the sewer.....

Is that Cockney, it is flaming grating what ever it is!

She does sort of drone on.

Can you imagine having sex with her?

I wont go any further..........

If she was turned around yeh: but how do you keep a mutt like that turned around?

Do you mind!

I am no turd burgler!

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:41pm

Saul Goodman wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:27pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:23pm:

Saul Goodman wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 11:49am:

Kiron22 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

You forgot Cash - who could forget the Fremantle Cockney voice rants.... gutter trash elevated to the sewer.....

Is that Cockney, it is flaming grating what ever it is!

She does sort of drone on.

Can you imagine having sex with her?

I wont go any further..........

If she was turned around yeh: but how do you keep a mutt like that turned around?

Do you mind!

I am no turd burgler!

lol, are you for friggin serial?

Is doggy style turd burglaring or are you just being gross for shites and giggles on your own behalf?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:54pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:01am:

They don't like being caught out the poor old Liberals.

You wouldn't want any sensitive information in this dopes hands you would never know who he might send it to.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by cods on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:13pm

well we know we are in good company when drah joins in..... ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D

thank god hes on the darkside...

give me Dutton any day... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:16pm

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:13pm:

well we know we are in good company when drah joins in..... ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D

thank god hes on the darkside...

give me Dutton any day... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What party are you going to vote for at the next election, cods?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by cods on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:01am:

They don't like being caught out the poor old Liberals.

You wouldn't want any sensitive information in this dopes hands you would never know who he might send it to.

that is just sooooooo CUTE....soooooo original.. I wonder who thinks them up..

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:17pm

Kiron22 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

Yet they rule. Where are Labor and the Greens again?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by cods on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:16pm:

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:13pm:

well we know we are in good company when drah joins in..... ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D

thank god hes on the darkside...

give me Dutton any day... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What party are you going to vote for at the next election, cods?

maybe none.......at this stage I cant see anything I would wipe my feet on. let a lone vote for..

how about you???.. you voting IN SHORTARSE hes your HERO isnt he?..being a staunch union man...

even though I know you cant vote FOR HIM..

but for his hand picked party man in your electorate??..

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:19pm

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:01am:

They don't like being caught out the poor old Liberals.

You wouldn't want any sensitive information in this dopes hands you would never know who he might send it to.

that is just sooooooo CUTE....soooooo original.. I wonder who thinks them up..

Wonder no more.

https://independentaustralia.net/about

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:20pm

He shouldn't apologise. If he meant it, he should stand his ground. He only apologised because the cultural environment demands people apoloigse when they offend someone.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by cods on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:21pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:17pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

Yet they rule. Where are Labor and the Greens again?

they are even lower on the scale of brains....WALLY AND BILLYNUMNUTS...they make an excellent duo...

shame isnt it.. no matter what they come up with we can always better them...

I think its so funny...

dutton makes a boo boo that just about everyone has done at some stage of their lives... and LOOK AT THE ATTENTION THEY ARE GIVING HIM..

I cant wait for BILLYNUMNUTS to bring it up in Parliament... ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by cods on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:19pm:

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 6:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:01am:

They don't like being caught out the poor old Liberals.

You wouldn't want any sensitive information in this dopes hands you would never know who he might send it to.

that is just sooooooo CUTE....soooooo original.. I wonder who thinks them up..

Wonder no more.

https://independentaustralia.net/about

nah keep your communist links mate I prefer to make up my own mind...

so who you voting for????

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:24pm

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:18pm:

how about you???.. you voting IN SHORTARSE hes your HERO isnt he?.

No hero of mine.

I'll be placing the Liberal Party last.

The Labor Party will (probably) be second last.

An independent will probably receive my first preference.

I'll have to see all the candidates first, before I make my final decision.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:21pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:17pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

Yet they rule. Where are Labor and the Greens again?

Labor is the dumbest of the 3 parties by far. At least the Greens are consistent in the type of people they attract. Labor, on the other hand, the so-called working mans' party, is full of elitist fools who think gay marriage and open borders are the most important issues facing the working classes. Absolute fools.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:47pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:21pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:17pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

Yet they rule. Where are Labor and the Greens again?

Is that why they have opposed Libs nasty policy that attacks the lower socio economic at every opportunity , ok got it ::)

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Bam on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 9:07pm

macman wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:09am:

How has this clown survived as a minister? He must have something on Turdbull to still be there after all his f$%^ups.

If Dutton was sacked, the far right in the Liberal party would not like it. Coalition ministries are delicately balanced - not only do the Nationals have to be given their quota, so do the various factions in the Liberal party. Then there's the need to reward those who supported the leader. That's why Coalition ministries always have a few underwhelming ministers - the mediocre are handed ministries not because they are the best talent but because they are in the "right" party or faction.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 9:10pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Labor, on the other hand, the so-called working mans' party, is full of elitist fools who think gay marriage and open borders are the most important issues facing the working classes.

Wrong, yet again.

http://www.alp.org.au/policy_commitments

http://www.alp.org.au/what_we_re_for

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Aussie on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 9:13pm

Bam wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 9:07pm:

macman wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:09am:

How has this clown survived as a minister? He must have something on Turdbull to still be there after all his f$%^ups.

It's a shame we have a parallel Thread on the same issue. I agree with you Bam, and my reasons are on that other Thread.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Dnarever on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 9:15pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:21pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:17pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

Yet they rule. Where are Labor and the Greens again?

Anyone supporting a party that had Tony Abbott as leader has forfeit the right to talk about dumb and wrong anyway.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Dnarever on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 9:26pm

Quote:

They breed them smart at Lib HQ

They should be keeping their breeding laboratory in a different room from their lavatory, the error is obvious.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 9:10pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Labor, on the other hand, the so-called working mans' party, is full of elitist fools who think gay marriage and open borders are the most important issues facing the working classes.

Wrong, yet again.

http://www.alp.org.au/policy_commitments

http://www.alp.org.au/what_we_re_for

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

How am I wrong?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:06pm

Its time wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:47pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Is that why they have opposed Libs nasty policy that attacks the lower socio economic at every opportunity , ok got it ::)

They may oppose the Liberal's economic reforms but that matters little when they have a high immigration intake and an open border policy for asylum ~~shoppers~~ seekers. The working classes have to compete with an extra 100,000s workers each year.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:12pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 9:10pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Labor, on the other hand, the so-called working mans' party, is full of elitist fools who think gay marriage and open borders are the most important issues facing the working classes.

Wrong, yet again.

http://www.alp.org.au/policy_commitments

http://www.alp.org.au/what_we_re_for

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

How am I wrong?

Labor do not think that "gay marriage and open borders are the most important issues facing the working classes."

http://www.alp.org.au/policy_commitments

http://www.alp.org.au/what_we_re_for

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by The Grappler on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:24pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:06pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:47pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Is that why they have opposed Libs nasty policy that attacks the lower socio economic at every opportunity , ok got it ::)

For the umpteenth time - there have never been 'open borders' - any applicant for asylum has been obliged to pass stringent tests. You seem to think that onshore processing means they're already here, even when they're in camps in SA and WA.

open border
" a situation in which goods and people can enter and leave a country easily: open border between sth and sth There should be an open border between the two countries. an open borders agreement"

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/open-border

What exactly is 'easy' about going into a camp at Exmouth while being subjected to a battery of tests and examinations?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 9:10pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Labor, on the other hand, the so-called working mans' party, is full of elitist fools who think gay marriage and open borders are the most important issues facing the working classes.

Wrong, yet again.

http://www.alp.org.au/policy_commitments

http://www.alp.org.au/what_we_re_for

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

How am I wrong?

Labor do not think that "gay marriage and open borders are the most important issues facing the working classes."

http://www.alp.org.au/policy_commitments

http://www.alp.org.au/what_we_re_for

True. They stopped caring for the working classes years ago.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by The Grappler on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:26pm

http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1415/AsylumFacts

Executive summary

Australia has a long history of accepting refugees for resettlement and over 800,000 refugees and displaced persons have settled in Australia since 1945.

There is a difference between an asylum seeker and a refugee—asylum seekers are people seeking international protection but whose claims for refugee status have not yet been determined.

Although those who come to Australia by boat seeking Australia’s protection are classified by Australian law to be ‘unlawful non-citizens’, they have a right to seek asylum under international law and not be penalised for their mode of entry.

Although the numbers fluctuate, usually only a small proportion of asylum applicants in Australia arrive by boat—most arrive by air with a valid visa and then go on to pursue asylum claims. While the number of boat arrivals has risen substantially in recent years, it is worth noting that even in high arrival years they still comprise just over half of onshore asylum seekers in Australia and a greater proportion of those arriving by boat are recognised as refugees. In 2014, arrival numbers fell again and there was only one boat arrival in Australia. As a result, the majority of asylum applicants arrived by air.

There is no orderly queue for asylum seekers to join. Only a very small proportion of asylum seekers are registered with the UNHCR and only about one per cent of those recognised by the UNHCR as refugees who meet the resettlement criteria are subsequently resettled to another country.

All unauthorised boat arrivals in Australia are subject to the same assessment criteria as other asylum applicants and are also subject to comprehensive security and health checks.

Claims that refugees in Australia are entitled to higher benefits than other social security recipients are unfounded.

The Australian Government usually allocates around 13,750 places to refugees and others with humanitarian needs under its planned Humanitarian Program. Historically, the majority of these places are granted to offshore refugees referred to Australia by the UNHCR, but some are given to refugees who arrived by air or boat and were granted protection visas onshore. However, even during high boat arrival periods, onshore grants to boat and air arrivals combined still only comprise about 50 per cent of Australia’s Humanitarian Program.

The number of people arriving unauthorised by boat in Australia is small in comparison to the numbers arriving in other parts of the world such as Europe. Similarly, the number of asylum claims lodged in Australia is small in comparison to the USA and Europe.

While about 20 developed nations, including Australia, participate formally in the UNHCR’s refugee resettlement program, the vast majority of asylum seekers and refugees are actually hosted in developing countries.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:26pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 9:10pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Labor, on the other hand, the so-called working mans' party, is full of elitist fools who think gay marriage and open borders are the most important issues facing the working classes.

Wrong, yet again.

http://www.alp.org.au/policy_commitments

http://www.alp.org.au/what_we_re_for

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

How am I wrong?

Labor do not think that "gay marriage and open borders are the most important issues facing the working classes."

http://www.alp.org.au/policy_commitments

http://www.alp.org.au/what_we_re_for

True.

There you go.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:28pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:24pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:06pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:47pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Is that why they have opposed Libs nasty policy that attacks the lower socio economic at every opportunity , ok got it ::)

It's probably become more stringent now the Liberals are in charge. Under Labor all one had to do was spin some story about persecution.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:30pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:06pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:47pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Is that why they have opposed Libs nasty policy that attacks the lower socio economic at every opportunity , ok got it ::)

No the libs did that in collaboration with the greens removing market testing on 457s

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by The Grappler on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:30pm

Just to bring reality back into play:-

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:30pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:24pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:06pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:47pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Is that why they have opposed Libs nasty policy that attacks the lower socio economic at every opportunity , ok got it ::)

You seem to think.

Link?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by The Grappler on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:35pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

It's probably become more stringent now the Liberals are in charge. Under Labor all one had to do was spin some story about persecution.

You say, probably - meaning you aren't sure. That is assumption. The tests are the same as before - I think. People applying still have to pass medical, character, and identity tests - the only difference is that the LNP has decreed that any arriving by boat, who are not supposed to be punished in any way for their method of arrival, will not be settled here, but will be sent post haste to the Malaria/Typhoid/Cholera/AIDS Belt, where they will make a living selling their daughters into sex slavery or by growing poppies in the Golden Triangle for some drug warlord.......

No punishment there.... nah.....

I studied this stuff at Uni level, but that was in 2005.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:36pm

Its time wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:06pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:47pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Is that why they have opposed Libs nasty policy that attacks the lower socio economic at every opportunity , ok got it ::)

No the libs did that in collaboration with the greens removing market testing on 457s

Labor had 6 years to cut right back on immigration and didn't.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:40pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

It's probably become more stringent now the Liberals are in charge. Under Labor all one had to do was spin some story about persecution.

Presuming your post is correct, then how does that refute an open border policy when Labor wouldn't 'turn back the boats' once the quota was reached?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 11:04pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:36pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:06pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:47pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Is that why they have opposed Libs nasty policy that attacks the lower socio economic at every opportunity , ok got it ::)

No the libs did that in collaboration with the greens removing market testing on 457s

Labor had 6 years to cut right back on immigration and didn't.

If there is so many here turkn our jerbs already as you seem to think , why do we need to import them to fill a supposed skills shortage ?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 5:00am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:21pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:17pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

Yet they rule. Where are Labor and the Greens again?

Actually, it's the nutters in the conservative wing of the lib/nats who are the only ones left thinking same sex marriage is a big issue. The rest just want to pass the legislation and move on with life.

Doc, as someone with a Ph.D. In political something or rather, why do you oppose secular states?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Dnarever on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 10:12am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:36pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:06pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:47pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Is that why they have opposed Libs nasty policy that attacks the lower socio economic at every opportunity , ok got it ::)

No the libs did that in collaboration with the greens removing market testing on 457s

Labor had 6 years to cut right back on immigration and didn't.

Labor tightened 457 rules ?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Dnarever on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 10:16am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:40pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

It's probably become more stringent now the Liberals are in charge. Under Labor all one had to do was spin some story about persecution.

Presuming your post is correct, then how does that refute an open border policy when Labor wouldn't 'turn back the boats' once the quota was reached?

Turning back refugee applicants is a breach of our UN agreement on human rights.

Allowing refugee applicants has nothing to do with open boarders, that is a very different thing.

A quota is just an arbitrary BS number that somebody made up.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 8:01pm

Its time wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 11:04pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:36pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:06pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:47pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

Is that why they have opposed Libs nasty policy that attacks the lower socio economic at every opportunity , ok got it ::)

No the libs did that in collaboration with the greens removing market testing on 457s

Labor had 6 years to cut right back on immigration and didn't.

If there is so many here turkn our jerbs already as you seem to think , why do we need to import them to fill a supposed skills shortage ?

We don't.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 8:03pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 5:00am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:21pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:17pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

Yet they rule. Where are Labor and the Greens again?

Gay marriage affects about .000001% of the population. It does nothing to help the working classes.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 8:07pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 10:16am:

Turning back refugee applicants is a breach of our UN agreement on human rights.

That agreement can be ignored or withdrawn.

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Allowing refugee applicants has nothing to do with open boarders, that is a very different thing.

Without an enforced quota, it becomes open borders.

Quote:

A quota is just an arbitrary BS number that somebody made up.

Qutoas are set by the government of the day. It was 12,000, then it moved to 20,000, and it's now back to 12,000, I think. Labor want to raise it to 13,500(?). But you are correct, in that the figure can be changed at the government's discretion.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by The Grappler on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 9:16pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:40pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

It's probably become more stringent now the Liberals are in charge. Under Labor all one had to do was spin some story about persecution.

Presuming your post is correct, then how does that refute an open border policy when Labor wouldn't 'turn back the boats' once the quota was reached?

It is not the right or duty of government to intercept vessels of a foreign nation on the High Seas, and that means there are no rights adhering to that government to 'turn back the boats' until such time as they reach territorial waters. It is at that point that refugee claimants may legally and legitimately request asylum from an officer of the nation..... so you can see how this legal situation places a government in a situation difficult to win IF the intention is to NOT process those who arrive in this manner.

So no - not turning back boats is not an 'open border policy' - it is strict adherence to Law, and in no way opens the border to persons who will not be detained and processed, thus obviating the entire concept of the border being open, since those people may NOT enter the nation and go about any business they choose, but rather are detained for processing and tests.

The ONLY excuse used to 'turn back the boats', and the only thing that gives that action legitimacy is by adhering to it the label of 'humanitarian act', based on the idea that turning them back is saving them from a watery death.

This is very shaky ground and has nothing to do with border security, but is a humanitarian gesture.. or rather is border security disguised as a humanitarian gesture.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 10:29pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 8:03pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 5:00am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:21pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 7:17pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

Yet they rule. Where are Labor and the Greens again?

Gay marriage affects about .000001% of the population. It does nothing to help the working classes.

So why do you keep talking about it? The rest of us just wish to pass it and move on with life.

And you didn't answer, doc, how can someone as educated as you want to ignore the secular nature of our political system?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Karnal on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 11:25pm

I’m more curious about why Mistie referred to the working classes. He usually pretends class doesn’t exist.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Dnarever on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:11am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:40pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

It's probably become more stringent now the Liberals are in charge. Under Labor all one had to do was spin some story about persecution.

Presuming your post is correct, then how does that refute an open border policy when Labor wouldn't 'turn back the boats' once the quota was reached?

The ONLY excuse used to 'turn back the boats', and the only thing that gives that action legitimacy is by adhering to it the label of 'humanitarian act', based on the idea that turning them back is saving them from a watery death.

Forcing them to make the crossing a second time after reaching safety is only increasing the risk ?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Dnarever on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:15am

They breed them smart at Lib HQ

Some say that there is a 50/50 chance that if they appoint another 3 ministers they may get their combined front bench IQ into double figures. Many doubt that they currently have the right 3 elected Liberals to achieve this result.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by The Grappler on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:16am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:11am:

Forcing them to make the crossing a second time after reaching safety is only increasing the risk ?

A thinking person would have to say so. The risk increases exponentially with each successive attempt at a crossing.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 5:42am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 10:29pm:

So why do you keep talking about it? The rest of us just wish to pass it and move on with life.

Why does Labor keep talking about it?

Quote:

And you didn't answer, doc, how can someone as educated as you want to ignore the secular nature of our political system?

İ can't follow this line of argument: there should be gay marriage because of ... the secular nature of our political system?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 5:43am

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 11:25pm:

I’m more curious about why Mistie referred to the working classes. He usually pretends class doesn’t exist.

Where have İ denied class?

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 5:44am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 7:15am:

Yet, they rule while Labor and The Greens languish behind.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 5:48am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:40pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

It's probably become more stringent now the Liberals are in charge. Under Labor all one had to do was spin some story about persecution.

Presuming your post is correct, then how does that refute an open border policy when Labor wouldn't 'turn back the boats' once the quota was reached?

İ'll say it again: without an enforced quota it is open borders.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Dnarever on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 6:10am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 5:48am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:40pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 4^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

It's probably become more stringent now the Liberals are in charge. Under Labor all one had to do was spin some story about persecution.

Presuming your post is correct, then how does that refute an open border policy when Labor wouldn't 'turn back the boats' once the quota was reached?

İ'll say it again: without an enforced quota it is open borders.

Your opinion requires a different definition to what an open boarder is to any definition currently in use.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Dnarever on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 6:27am

They breed them smart at Lib HQ

The front bench breeding programme.

The Liberalosaurusdrongo.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 6:45am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 5:42am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 10:29pm:

So why do you keep talking about it? The rest of us just wish to pass it and move on with life.

Why does Labor keep talking about it?

Quote:

And you didn't answer, doc, how can someone as educated as you want to ignore the secular nature of our political system?

İ can't follow this line of argument: there should be gay marriage because of ... the secular nature of our political system?

Really, doc? People are only talking a out it becauae virtually everyone except a few conservative nutjobs wants to just get it over and done with.

And the line of argument has to do with providing a valid reason against gay marriage that is secular in nature. Religion needs to stay out of politics.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 7:28am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 6:45am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 5:42am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 5^th, 2016 at 10:29pm:

So why do you keep talking about it? The rest of us just wish to pass it and move on with life.

Why does Labor keep talking about it?

Quote:

And you didn't answer, doc, how can someone as educated as you want to ignore the secular nature of our political system?

İ can't follow this line of argument: there should be gay marriage because of ... the secular nature of our political system?

Really, doc? People are only talking a out it becauae virtually everyone except a few conservative nutjobs wants to just get it over and done with.

İf lefties never brought it up to begin with the conversation wouldn't exist at all. İmagine all this time and effort placed on something like unemployment.

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And the line of argument has to do with providing a valid reason against gay marriage that is secular in nature. Religion needs to stay out of politics.

İ've never argued agianst gay marriage. İ have, however, argued against the normalisation of sh*t punching and gayness in general. This hasn't been based in religion either, but that such normalisation isn't found in history and that normal people instinctively recoil from sh*t.

Title: Re: They breed them smart at Lib HQ
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 7:29am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 6:10am: