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Message started by Maqqa on Dec 28th, 2015 at 12:25am

Title: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by Maqqa on Dec 28th, 2015 at 12:25am
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30435548/woolworths-accused-of-un-australian-discrimination-between-chinese-and-english-speaking-customers-over-baby-formula/

Woolworths has been accused of racism after it gave differing limits of baby formula to its English and Chinese speaking customers.

A number of customers have noticed the side-by-side notices in Woolies stores across Australia with the English language sign saying customers can buy four tins, while the Mandarin sign limits it at two units.

"Due to supply issues, sales quantities are limited to four units per customers for Infant Formula. We are working hard to be back in full supply as soon as possible," read the tickets photographed in stores and posted on the Woolworths Facebook page.

The adjacent Mandarin sign reads only two per customer.

Outraged customers said it was "un-Australian" and shameful.

Woolworths responded to a number of complaints on its Facebook page, saying it would pass on feedback to store managers.

"We will pass this feedback on to our Store Manager so they are aware and can take action," the supermarket wrote on Facebook.

Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by Maqqa on Dec 28th, 2015 at 12:27am
There's a shortage of baby formula in China.

Chinese in Australia are buying to send back to China to sell for a profit. This is causing a shortage in Australia i.e. Australian babies are going without milk

Yet the social apologists are all too quick to jump the gun and accuse people of racism.

This is why I fundamentally dislike social apologists


Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by The Grappler on Dec 28th, 2015 at 1:08am
Local dairy factory is slavering at the chops over the FTA and the chance to sell endless supplies of cheese and milk products to China.  That on top of their CEO being convicted of paedophilia and copping seven years.... pillars of the community all......

Not sure that Australian babies would be running short.... but it is only a matter of time before there are adequate supplies to China.

Maybe kids would be better off feeding natural foods.... such as mother's milk in Parliament.... or wherever.... my kids benefited from it, and I seriously think a natural and unprocessed diet is the best in the long term.

Must be my inner hippy.... :-?


Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by Dnarever on Dec 28th, 2015 at 6:24am
Asian groups were going into shopping complexes and buying every can of baby food from every store early in the morning. They would have 4 people or more buying 8 or 10 each from Woolworths and then going to Coles and doing the same thing before moving on to IGA or who ever else was available.

By 9 am a mother could not buy a can of baby formula as every one was out of stock.

Limiting the amount in this situation is not a bad option.


Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by cods on Dec 28th, 2015 at 6:37am
there is NO SHORTAGE IN CHINA macca..

the manufacturer of baby formulas tried to kill them by adulterating the baby powder.... so the Chinese mums are afraid to by their own product......

I would be too..

however this isnt the way to fix it because its black market and only the rich would be able to afford it..

I do not think woollies could careless who bought their goods on their shelves..

they are just trying to do the right thing...by us... and helping stop the BLACKMARKET...

when Aussie mums go to buy the product but the shelf is empty... that is not the right way.....

so tough luck to those who think its unjust..

come up with a better solution....

I am sure the shops will go for it..

Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by freediver on Dec 28th, 2015 at 7:26am
Apparently the Chinese are buying up all sorts of things in Australia - particularly baby formula, vitamin pills etc, because of all the scares they have had with contaminated product. Kind of like the opposite of cheap imports.

If they want to buy from us in bulk at retail prices, put more stock on the shelves.

Apparently in China they are still telling mothers that formula is better than breast milk.

Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by the good ole boys on Dec 28th, 2015 at 7:46am
I assume the 'one child policy' becoming a 'two child policy' is going to have an impact.

Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by Dnarever on Dec 28th, 2015 at 7:46am

freediver wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 7:26am:
Apparently the Chinese are buying up all sorts of things in Australia - particularly baby formula, vitamin pills etc, because of all the scares they have had with contaminated product. Kind of like the opposite of cheap imports.

If they want to buy from us in bulk at retail prices, put more stock on the shelves.

Apparently in China they are still telling mothers that formula is better than breast milk.


If they want to buy from us in bulk at retail prices, put more stock on the shelves.


The shops were putting more stock on the shelves but they were buying it all.

Heard an example where 4 people went in and bought 4 each (16). An hour later they came back to the same Woolworths got 4 more each and went to different registers. In between they had been at Coles doing the same thing. They bought at least 64 cans of baby formula before lunch time.

Apparently in China they are still telling mothers that formula is better than breast milk

In some cases it is true.

Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by Maqqa on Dec 28th, 2015 at 7:55am

cods wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 6:37am:
there is NO SHORTAGE IN CHINA macca..

the manufacturer of baby formulas tried to kill them by adulterating the baby powder.... so the Chinese mums are afraid to by their own product......


That's why there is a shortage

Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by freediver on Dec 28th, 2015 at 8:00am

Quote:
The shops were putting more stock on the shelves but they were buying it all.


If you owned one of these shops, how would you handle this "problem"?

Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by The Grappler on Dec 28th, 2015 at 9:02am

freediver wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 7:26am:
Apparently the Chinese are buying up all sorts of things in Australia - particularly baby formula, vitamin pills etc, because of all the scares they have had with contaminated product. Kind of like the opposite of cheap imports.

If they want to buy from us in bulk at retail prices, put more stock on the shelves.

Apparently in China they are still telling mothers that formula is better than breast milk.


There was a scandal some years ago about exactly that kind of misleading statement from vendors....

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/nestles-infant-formula-scandal-2012-6#the-baby-killer-blew-the-lid-off-the-formula-industry-in-1974-1

New York City’s campaign against infant formula inspired us to look into the dubious history of this product.Outrage started in the 1970s, when Nestle was accused of getting third world mothers hooked on formula, which is less healthy and more expensive than breast milk.

The allegations led to hearings in the Senate and the World Health organisation, resulting in a new set of marketing rules.

Yet infant formula remains a $11.5-billion-and-growing market.

'The Baby Killer' blew the lid off the formula industry in 1974.




Social rights groups began dragging the industry's exploitative practices into the spotlight in the early 1970s.

The New Internationalist published an exposé on Nestlé's marketing practices in 1973, 'Babies Mean Business,' which described how the company got Third World mothers hooked on baby formula.

But it was 'The Baby Killer,' a booklet published by London's War On Want organisation in 1974, that really blew the lid off the baby formula industry.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott

A boycott was launched in the United States on July 7, 1977, against the Swiss-based Nestlé corporation. It spread in the United States, and expanded into Europe in the early 1980s. It was prompted by concern about Nestlé's "aggressive marketing" of breast milk substitutes, particularly in less economically developed countries (LEDCs), largely among the poor. The boycott has been canceled and renewed based upon scrutiny of the business practices of Nestlé and other substitute manufacturers monitored by the International Baby Food Action Network (IBFAN). Organizers of the boycott encourage the practice of newborn nutrition via natural breast milk and claim that use of the substitutes represent a health risk for infants. As of 2013, the Nestlé boycott is coordinated by the International Nestlé Boycott Committee, the secretariat for which is the UK group Baby Milk Action.

Now where is Longmania to tell me that 'google' is not research...... just provides historical links, neh?  Guess some of us have to do the work while others sit back and snipe, eh?

Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by The Grappler on Dec 28th, 2015 at 9:04am
Children are better off on mother's milk and unprocessed foods....

Again - must be my inner hippy.

Oh - to be fair - I believe a lot of the problems with third world kids came from mixing formula with the local water using unhygienic techniques...


Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by John Smith on Dec 28th, 2015 at 4:20pm

freediver wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 8:00am:

Quote:
The shops were putting more stock on the shelves but they were buying it all.


If you owned one of these shops, how would you handle this "problem"?



If I was the shop owner I'D SELL IT TO THEM BY THE PALLET.

Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by Dnarever on Dec 28th, 2015 at 4:35pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 4:20pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 8:00am:

Quote:
The shops were putting more stock on the shelves but they were buying it all.


If you owned one of these shops, how would you handle this "problem"?



If I was the shop owner I'D SELL IT TO THEM BY THE PALLET.


The major stores risk having their loyal customers doing their full $350 weekly shop somewhere else for the long term and they also know that they sell all the formula anyway. Big risk for no real gain.

Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by Gnads on Dec 28th, 2015 at 5:52pm
Tell me how they get all this baby formula out of the country once they have collected as much as they do?

It can't be taken out in personal luggage.

Sounds nearly like it would have to be a smuggling/drug type operation to get that bulk overseas. 

Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by Sun Tzu on Dec 28th, 2015 at 5:59pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 5:52pm:
Tell me how they get all this baby formula out of the country once they have collected as much as they do?

It can't be taken out in personal luggage.

Sounds nearly like it would have to be a smuggling/drug type operation to get that bulk overseas. 


Gnads has been imbibing too much baby formula. Now you are thinking like a baby.

Taper off gently and use your pacifier.

Please don't spit the dummy.

Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by Gnads on Dec 28th, 2015 at 6:06pm

Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 5:52pm:
Tell me how they get all this baby formula out of the country once they have collected as much as they do?

It can't be taken out in personal luggage.

Sounds nearly like it would have to be a smuggling/drug type operation to get that bulk overseas. 


Gnads has been imbibing too much baby formula. Now you are thinking like a baby.

Taper off gently and use your pacifier.

Please don't spit the dummy.


Why... because you can't answer a simple question?

or because you're just an anti-australian, anti-Caucasian trolling prat?

Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by Sun Tzu on Dec 28th, 2015 at 6:17pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 6:06pm:

Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 5:52pm:
Tell me how they get all this baby formula out of the country once they have collected as much as they do?

It can't be taken out in personal luggage.

Sounds nearly like it would have to be a smuggling/drug type operation to get that bulk overseas. 


Gnads has been imbibing too much baby formula. Now you are thinking like a baby.

Taper off gently and use your pacifier.

Please don't spit the dummy.


Why... because you can't answer a simple question?

or because you're just an anti-australian, anti-Caucasian trolling prat?


I believe this product will make Gnads more agreeable:


Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by Gnads on Dec 28th, 2015 at 8:04pm
You hypocrite take some of your own medicine

you're on here griping more than most

Title: Re: Social apologists strikes again - baby formula
Post by Dnarever on Dec 28th, 2015 at 8:45pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 5:52pm:
Tell me how they get all this baby formula out of the country once they have collected as much as they do?

It can't be taken out in personal luggage.

Sounds nearly like it would have to be a smuggling/drug type operation to get that bulk overseas. 


Brown cardboard box's with an address label and stamps.  It isn't illegal to send baby food overseas.

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