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Malcolm Turnbull admits to sharing MP’s number MALCOLM Turnbull has confirmed he texted Australia’s spy chief Duncan Lewis with the mobile phone number of Liberal MP and SAS hero Andrew Hastie, who has argued that Islamic teachings are linked to terrorism. The Prime Minister told the Sunday Herald Sun, on his return from Japan, that he did not regard it as instructing the ASIO chief to call Mr Hastie, a family friend of the spy chief. Mr Turnbull’s confirmation follows a storm of controversy that he was using the ASIO chief to silence or “re-educate” critics linked to Tony Abbot. “I certainly did not direct Duncan Lewis to call him, let alone suggest what he would say,’’ Mr Turnbull said. “I welcome Mr Lewis engaging with MPs and senators on these issues.” The Sunday Herald Sun has confirmed that the PM also held private talks with Mr Hastie in Perth on December 9, where he canvassed his views on Islam, before texting the MP’s mobile phone number to ASIO Director-General Duncan Lewis. On Friday, Mr Turnbull publicly denied he had ordered Lewis to talk to “anybody in particular’’ “Look, I haven’t given Duncan Lewis any — I haven’t asked him to do, to give any advice to anybody in particular but I encourage Duncan Lewis to speak to as many people as he can,’’ Mr Turnbull said. However, Mr Hastie said the ASIO chief’s call was a “bolt from the blue’’. “I certainly didn’t expect to hear from the head of the ASIO,’’ Mr Hastie said. “I was called out of the blue. When the head of ASIO calls, you pick up. At no point did I feel that my ability to speak my mind was affected. Look, to be honest, I am my own man. I stand by everything I’ve said about Islam. “I know my views don’t accord with some of Malcolm’s but that’s fine, the Liberal Party is a broad church. I didn’t expect this story to appear in the press.’’ But other MPs insisted that the former SAS commander was asked by the ASIO chief to pass on ASIO’s message to other MPs. The ASIO chief’s calls to Dan Tehan, the chairman of the Joint Standing Committee on Intelligence Committee, were entirely routine and Mr Tehan has defended the contact as a completely normal part of Mr Lewis’s job. Mr Turnbull has previously stated — following reports that Mr Lewis was calling “Coalition MPs’’ — that he had phoned two MPs.

oh ok,

so now Turncoat is using the Head of ASIO to silence MPs who speak out about Islam and Terrorist

Turnbull is a Traitor..  >:(

One would expect the head of ASIO would have more knowledge on the subject than any MP's....Advising people to pull their heads in about inciting hatred against any particular minority group is just common sense IMO....Dog whistling politics does nobody any good apart from those who suck in the gullible!!!

:-? :-? :-?

What disturbs me more is that Hastie knew it was the Boss of ASIO!  Huh.......???????????????  A new MHR has the number of the Boss of ASIO on his phone?  Doesn't that compromise the ASIO Boss?  Surely there ought be a very solid impregnable wall between a bloke in that position and the general tea lady Member of Parliament?

Further, if Turnbull did not want this bloke to ring Hastie...he had no need to give him Hastie's number.  Hastie already had it.  Therefore, Turnbull is an outright liar.


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I was called out of the blue. When the head of ASIO calls, you pick up.

Aussie wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 2:46pm:

What disturbs me more is that Hastie knew it was the Boss of ASIO!  Huh.......???????????????  A new MHR has the number of the Boss of ASIO on his phone?  Doesn't that compromise the ASIO Boss?  Surely there ought be a very solid impregnable wall between a bloke in that position and the general tea lady Member of Parliament? Further, if Turnbull did not want this bloke to ring Hastie...he had no need to give him Hastie's number.  He already had it.  Therefore, Turnbull is an outright liar. Quote: I was called out of the blue. When the head of ASIO calls, you pick up.

Errr....perhaps one of Hastie's staffers told him "the head of ASIO is on the phone boss", although it sounds like he got Hastie's private number because his electoral number would have been easy to find....just a thought!!!

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 2:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What disturbs me more is that Hastie knew it was the Boss of ASIO!  Huh.......???????????????  A new MHR has the number of the Boss of ASIO on his phone?  Doesn't that compromise the ASIO Boss?  Surely there ought be a very solid impregnable wall between a bloke in that position and the general tea lady Member of Parliament? Further, if Turnbull did not want this bloke to ring Hastie...he had no need to give him Hastie's number.  He already had it.  Therefore, Turnbull is an outright liar. Quote: I was called out of the blue. When the head of ASIO calls, you pick up. Errr....perhaps one of Hastie's staffers told him "the head of ASIO is on the phone boss", although it sounds like he got Hastie's private number because his electoral number would have been easy to find....just a thought!!! :-? :-? :-?

No-one's secretary picks up the mobile phone of their Boss.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 2:35pm:

One would expect the head of ASIO would have more knowledge on the subject than any MP's....Advising people to pull their heads in about inciting hatred against any particular minority group is just common sense IMO....Dog whistling politics does nobody any good apart from those who suck in the gullible!!! :-? :-? :-?

I'm not sure if you are trying to be stupid deliberately

but surely its not that hard to understand that it was Turncoat that told the HEAD BOSS at ASIO to call up MPs and suggest that they "SHUT UP"

where's your crying about democracy now?

BlueBeard wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:35pm: One would expect the head of ASIO would have more knowledge on the subject than any MP's....Advising people to pull their heads in about inciting hatred against any particular minority group is just common sense IMO....Dog whistling politics does nobody any good apart from those who suck in the gullible!!! :-? :-? :-? I'm not sure if you are trying to be stupid deliberately but surely its not that hard to understand that it was Turncoat that told the HEAD BOSS at ASIO to call up MPs and suggest that they "SHUT UP" where's your crying about democracy now?

In a very general sense, I see nothing untoward in Turnbull asking the ASIO Boss to call Hastie on the issue.  I see plenty wrong with him so obviously lying about it.

Who’s leaking this? Turnbull?

Karnal wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 3:11pm:

Who’s leaking this? Turnbull?

Only three knew.  Turnbull, Hastie and the ASIO Boss, and you can eliminate the latter.  Hastie is an ambitious arsehole (I know....you'll just have to accept that) and he is an Abbott acolyte.  My money is on him.

Aussie wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 2:46pm:

What disturbs me more is that Hastie knew it was the Boss of ASIO!  Huh.......???????????????  A new MHR has the number of the Boss of ASIO on his phone?  Doesn't that compromise the ASIO Boss?  Surely there ought be a very solid impregnable wall between a bloke in that position and the general tea lady Member of Parliament? Further, if Turnbull did not want this bloke to ring Hastie...he had no need to give him Hastie's number.  Hastie already had it.  Therefore, Turnbull is an outright liar. Quote: I was called out of the blue. When the head of ASIO calls, you pick up.

The head of ASIO is a family friend of Hastie's.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 4:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What disturbs me more is that Hastie knew it was the Boss of ASIO!  Huh.......???????????????  A new MHR has the number of the Boss of ASIO on his phone?  Doesn't that compromise the ASIO Boss?  Surely there ought be a very solid impregnable wall between a bloke in that position and the general tea lady Member of Parliament? Further, if Turnbull did not want this bloke to ring Hastie...he had no need to give him Hastie's number.  Hastie already had it.  Therefore, Turnbull is an outright liar. Quote: I was called out of the blue. When the head of ASIO calls, you pick up. The head of ASIO is a family friend of Hastie's.

We all read that.  It's in the OP.  Changes nothing.

Aussie wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 4:27pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What disturbs me more is that Hastie knew it was the Boss of ASIO!  Huh.......???????????????  A new MHR has the number of the Boss of ASIO on his phone?  Doesn't that compromise the ASIO Boss?  Surely there ought be a very solid impregnable wall between a bloke in that position and the general tea lady Member of Parliament? Further, if Turnbull did not want this bloke to ring Hastie...he had no need to give him Hastie's number.  Hastie already had it.  Therefore, Turnbull is an outright liar. Quote: I was called out of the blue. When the head of ASIO calls, you pick up. The head of ASIO is a family friend of Hastie's. We all read that.  It's in the OP.  Changes nothing.

If Turnbull wants the ASIO chief to talk to MPs thats his prerogative as he is PM. What concerns be though is the desperation of the Left to do everything possible not to have the words "Islam" and "terrorism" used in the same sentence. The loony Left would much rather stick their collective heads up their arses than acknowledge  (much less deal with) the problem of Islamic terrorism.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 4:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 4:29pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 4:27pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What disturbs me more is that Hastie knew it was the Boss of ASIO!  Huh.......???????????????  A new MHR has the number of the Boss of ASIO on his phone?  Doesn't that compromise the ASIO Boss?  Surely there ought be a very solid impregnable wall between a bloke in that position and the general tea lady Member of Parliament? Further, if Turnbull did not want this bloke to ring Hastie...he had no need to give him Hastie's number.  Hastie already had it.  Therefore, Turnbull is an outright liar. Quote: I was called out of the blue. When the head of ASIO calls, you pick up. The head of ASIO is a family friend of Hastie's. We all read that.  It's in the OP.  Changes nothing. If Turnbull wants the ASIO chief to talk to MPs thats his prerogative as he is PM. What concerns be though is the desperation of the Left to do everything possible not to have the words "Islam" and "terrorism" used in the same sentence. The loony Left would much rather stick their collective heads up their arses than acknowledge  (much less deal with) the problem of Islamic terrorism.

Indeed it is.  So, why did he lie about it?

BlueBeard wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:35pm: One would expect the head of ASIO would have more knowledge on the subject than any MP's....Advising people to pull their heads in about inciting hatred against any particular minority group is just common sense IMO....Dog whistling politics does nobody any good apart from those who suck in the gullible!!! :-? :-? :-? I'm not sure if you are trying to be stupid deliberately but surely its not that hard to understand that it was Turncoat that told the HEAD BOSS at ASIO to call up MPs and suggest that they "SHUT UP" where's your crying about democracy now?

Before you start calling me stupid....Where did I say he didn't???

:-? :-? :-?

Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.
Euripides (484 BC - 406 BC), The Bacchae, circa 407 B.C.

Aussie wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 5:15pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 4:36pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 4:29pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 4:27pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What disturbs me more is that Hastie knew it was the Boss of ASIO!  Huh.......???????????????  A new MHR has the number of the Boss of ASIO on his phone?  Doesn't that compromise the ASIO Boss?  Surely there ought be a very solid impregnable wall between a bloke in that position and the general tea lady Member of Parliament? Further, if Turnbull did not want this bloke to ring Hastie...he had no need to give him Hastie's number.  Hastie already had it.  Therefore, Turnbull is an outright liar. Quote: I was called out of the blue. When the head of ASIO calls, you pick up. The head of ASIO is a family friend of Hastie's. We all read that.  It's in the OP.  Changes nothing. If Turnbull wants the ASIO chief to talk to MPs thats his prerogative as he is PM. What concerns be though is the desperation of the Left to do everything possible not to have the words "Islam" and "terrorism" used in the same sentence. The loony Left would much rather stick their collective heads up their arses than acknowledge  (much less deal with) the problem of Islamic terrorism. Indeed it is.  So, why did he lie about it?

When did he lie about it?

Aussie wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 2:57pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What disturbs me more is that Hastie knew it was the Boss of ASIO!  Huh.......???????????????  A new MHR has the number of the Boss of ASIO on his phone?  Doesn't that compromise the ASIO Boss?  Surely there ought be a very solid impregnable wall between a bloke in that position and the general tea lady Member of Parliament? Further, if Turnbull did not want this bloke to ring Hastie...he had no need to give him Hastie's number.  He already had it.  Therefore, Turnbull is an outright liar. Quote: I was called out of the blue. When the head of ASIO calls, you pick up. Errr....perhaps one of Hastie's staffers told him "the head of ASIO is on the phone boss", although it sounds like he got Hastie's private number because his electoral number would have been easy to find....just a thought!!! :-? :-? :-? No-one's secretary picks up the mobile phone of their Boss.

Never said they did and conceded as much....OK!!!

::) ::) ::)

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 6:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 5:15pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 4:36pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 4:29pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 4:27pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What disturbs me more is that Hastie knew it was the Boss of ASIO!  Huh.......???????????????  A new MHR has the number of the Boss of ASIO on his phone?  Doesn't that compromise the ASIO Boss?  Surely there ought be a very solid impregnable wall between a bloke in that position and the general tea lady Member of Parliament? Further, if Turnbull did not want this bloke to ring Hastie...he had no need to give him Hastie's number.  Hastie already had it.  Therefore, Turnbull is an outright liar. Quote: I was called out of the blue. When the head of ASIO calls, you pick up. The head of ASIO is a family friend of Hastie's. We all read that.  It's in the OP.  Changes nothing. If Turnbull wants the ASIO chief to talk to MPs thats his prerogative as he is PM. What concerns be though is the desperation of the Left to do everything possible not to have the words "Islam" and "terrorism" used in the same sentence. The loony Left would much rather stick their collective heads up their arses than acknowledge  (much less deal with) the problem of Islamic terrorism. Indeed it is.  So, why did he lie about it? When did he lie about it?

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“Look, I haven’t given Duncan Lewis any — I haven’t asked him to do, to give any advice to anybody in particular but I encourage Duncan Lewis to speak to as many people as he can,’’ Mr Turnbull said.

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 6:47pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:57pm: philperth2010 wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What disturbs me more is that Hastie knew it was the Boss of ASIO!  Huh.......???????????????  A new MHR has the number of the Boss of ASIO on his phone?  Doesn't that compromise the ASIO Boss?  Surely there ought be a very solid impregnable wall between a bloke in that position and the general tea lady Member of Parliament? Further, if Turnbull did not want this bloke to ring Hastie...he had no need to give him Hastie's number.  He already had it.  Therefore, Turnbull is an outright liar. Quote: I was called out of the blue. When the head of ASIO calls, you pick up. Errr....perhaps one of Hastie's staffers told him "the head of ASIO is on the phone boss", although it sounds like he got Hastie's private number because his electoral number would have been easy to find....just a thought!!! :-? :-? :-? No-one's secretary picks up the mobile phone of their Boss. Never said they did and conceded as much....OK!!! ::) ::) ::)

Sorry, I did not see where you had conceded.

Aussie wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 7:38pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 6:47pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:57pm: philperth2010 wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What disturbs me more is that Hastie knew it was the Boss of ASIO!  Huh.......???????????????  A new MHR has the number of the Boss of ASIO on his phone?  Doesn't that compromise the ASIO Boss?  Surely there ought be a very solid impregnable wall between a bloke in that position and the general tea lady Member of Parliament? Further, if Turnbull did not want this bloke to ring Hastie...he had no need to give him Hastie's number.  He already had it.  Therefore, Turnbull is an outright liar. Quote: I was called out of the blue. When the head of ASIO calls, you pick up. Errr....perhaps one of Hastie's staffers told him "the head of ASIO is on the phone boss", although it sounds like he got Hastie's private number because his electoral number would have been easy to find....just a thought!!! :-? :-? :-? No-one's secretary picks up the mobile phone of their Boss. Never said they did and conceded as much....OK!!! ::) ::) ::) Sorry, I did not see where you had conceded.

No worries....At least you are not as conceited as Blue who runs away from his mistakes instead of owning up!!!

:-? :-? :-?

Aussie wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 3:11pm: Who’s leaking this? Turnbull? Only three knew.  Turnbull, Hastie and the ASIO Boss, and you can eliminate the latter.  Hastie is an ambitious arsehole (I know....you'll just have to accept that) and he is an Abbott acolyte.  My money is on him.

Well, we know it’s not the spy chief. He’s never even had his name in the paper - until this.

And we know it’s not the PM. He’s in the Cloak of Silence with the chief.

Hastings? Military family, ex-SAS, a new MP, answerable to the PM. It’s not Hastings.

So which other ex-Liberal leader gets "Canberra inside gossip" handed to him by his old friends?

Anyone?

Karnal wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 8:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 3:29pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 3:11pm: Who’s leaking this? Turnbull? Only three knew.  Turnbull, Hastie and the ASIO Boss, and you can eliminate the latter.  Hastie is an ambitious arsehole (I know....you'll just have to accept that) and he is an Abbott acolyte.  My money is on him. Well, we know it’s not the spy chief. He’s never even had his name in the paper - until this. And we know it’s not the PM. He’s in the Cloak of Silence with the spy chief. Hastings? Military family, ex-SAS, a new MP, answerable to the PM. It’s not Hastings. So which other ex-Liberal leader gets "Canberra inside gossip" handed to him by his old friends? Anyone?

Okay......I ought to have acknowledged that Hastie could have bitched to Abbott..........who leaked.

Same deal in my head.

Well, it certainly is a broad-church...

I wonder, could broad-church be a euphemism for a party in disarray? Sometimes maybe?

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 2:35pm:

One would expect the head of ASIO would have more knowledge on the subject than any MP's....Advising people to pull their heads in about inciting hatred against any particular minority group is just common sense IMO....Dog whistling politics does nobody any good apart from those who suck in the gullible!!! :-? :-? :-?

Hear, Hear!  :)

BlueBeard wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 2:29pm:

oh ok, so now Turncoat is using the Head of ASIO to silence MPs who speak out about Islam and Terrorist Turnbull is a Traitor..  >:(

I agree.

I will NOT be voting for the Liberal Party if he leads them into the election.

I would never vote Labor or Green either.

Aussie wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 8:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 8:20pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 3:29pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 3:11pm: Who’s leaking this? Turnbull? Only three knew.  Turnbull, Hastie and the ASIO Boss, and you can eliminate the latter.  Hastie is an ambitious arsehole (I know....you'll just have to accept that) and he is an Abbott acolyte.  My money is on him. Well, we know it’s not the spy chief. He’s never even had his name in the paper - until this. And we know it’s not the PM. He’s in the Cloak of Silence with the spy chief. Hastings? Military family, ex-SAS, a new MP, answerable to the PM. It’s not Hastings. So which other ex-Liberal leader gets "Canberra inside gossip" handed to him by his old friends? Anyone? Okay......I ought to have acknowledged that Hastie could have bitched to Abbott..........who leaked. Same deal in my head.

Bitched? I doubt it. To Abbott? I doubt that too. Hastie’s new and green. He’s SAS, so all info would be on a need to know basis. He now answers to Turnbul.

Abbott has someone doing his work for him. A mole, if you will.

Thoughts?

I would have thought, and hoped, that the head of our spy services would be able to get Hasties phone number without having to call the PM .....

doesn't inspire a lot of confidence into our spy services if they can't

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 8:05am:

I would have thought, and hoped, that the head of our spy services would be able to get Hasties phone number without having to call the PM ..... doesn't inspire a lot of confidence into our spy services if they can't

It reads to me as if this was a Turnbull strategy. It's good politics. Turnbull's using the agencies.

The leak, however, is the nub of the issue. When are ASIO's phone calls EVER reported in the news?