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Title: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:41pm
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Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Armchair_Politician on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:43pm
It was zero when Rudd won office the first time.
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Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by John Smith on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:44pm
I don't know why you persist with this nail ... the adults are in charge now and there is no longer a budget emergency.
Try to keep up. |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by davo on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:45pm
Thank goodness the Libs are in charge "we have a plan the plan is working and we're sticking with the plan''.
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Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:48pm oh dear wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:45pm:
the plan is to have no plan :D LOL |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:49pm John Smith wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:44pm:
I was just mesmerized by the 37 mill a day in interest payments alone !! Never mind the principal :( |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Sprintcyclist on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:50pm Quote:
yes, Tony Abbott said this some time ago. it is not rocket science and he does have a degree in economics. He said "We are not paying off the interest on our debt, and if you do not do that you are stuffed." |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Armchair_Politician on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:51pm
If only we'd had someone even half-competent as Treasurer during Labor's six disastrous years in office. Such a pity we got that economic illiterate/vandal Wayne Swan...
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Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:53pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:51pm:
you mean Wayne Goose :D LOL As equally useless compared to what we have now !! |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by The Grappler on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:54pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:43pm:
A glitch brought about by selling off the furniture to turn it into firewood so the people could buy it back while freezing, thus paying twice for what they once owned outright ........... This was a deliberate minefield set for any Labor government, and any other government as well.... or just plain societal/ecnomic incompetence. |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by davo on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:57pm
Yeah your right the guy took quick action when faced with the GFC which left Australia relatively unscathed.
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Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 18th, 2015 at 10:11pm John Smith wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:44pm:
Emergency or not, 3/4 of the 1.1 Billion per month leaves our shores never to be seen again ... over a decade, that's $750 million x 12 x 10 = $90 billion ... gone! |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 18th, 2015 at 10:14pm John Smith wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:44pm:
Emergency or not, 3/4 of the 1.1 Billion per month leaves our shores never to be seen again ... over a decade, that's $750 million x 12 x 10 = $90 billion ... gone! |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Swagman on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:30pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:43pm:
..........oops.....an inconvenient truth :D |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by crocodile on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:37pm Swagman wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:30pm:
Not true. There were still $50 billion worth of outstanding bonds. |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by crocodile on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:40pm Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 10:14pm:
Where do you form the idea that $1.1 billion / month leaves our shores never to be seen again. |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by crocodile on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:44pm Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:49pm:
Peter Jean ( the author ) hasn't the foggiest idea about what he's banging on about. In real terms the feds pay no interest at all. |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Swagman on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:46pm crocodile wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:37pm:
So? Balance sheets have debits and credits. The net figure is the pertinent one.... |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Karnal on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:51pm
Just think of all the anti-terrorism.ads Mr Abbott could fund with that.
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Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Karnal on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:54pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:50pm:
But good on him for doubling it anyway. |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Swagman on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:55pm Karnal wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:51pm:
Who? |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by crocodile on Dec 19th, 2015 at 12:00am Swagman wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:46pm:
That may be so but it wasn't zero. Just a stickler for detail. In any case, without a debt market how would the RBA possibly manage monetary policy and set interest rate targets. |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Dec 19th, 2015 at 12:02am Karnal wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:54pm:
:) |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 19th, 2015 at 4:34am
Yeah, $70Bn debt was paid by selling at firesale prices public assets.
Then we had the boom and the profligate twins Howard and Costello blew the boom revenue on tax cuts and pork and built that into the Budget. We know from MYEFO the stupid Libs have no intention of removing that profligacy from the Budget. But the Shorten Labor govt will from next year start doing just that. Howard left like a $700Bn infrastructure deficit. |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 19th, 2015 at 5:29am Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:41pm:
Good post sir Nail, notice how the Govt. always goes after the weak & disadvantaged for cutting costs & more tax - never the big companies like Apple & Google for tax? |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 19th, 2015 at 5:41am
Typical neocon behavior, Bobby.
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Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by sir prince duke alevine on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:26am Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 9:43pm:
Debt has ballooned thanks to the Liberals and Nationals. Incompetent!!!!!! |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 19th, 2015 at 6:30am Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 5:41am:
Yes Jovial - punish the weak & easy targets - let the big guys get off scott free. |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Armchair_Politician on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:00am Karnal wrote on Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:51pm:
Given what happened in Paris, it'd be money well spent. |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Armchair_Politician on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:02am Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 19th, 2015 at 4:34am:
If you're referring to the debt when Howard took over, it was $96 billion, not $70 billion. As for this fictional deficit you constantly and wrongly refer to, there was no deficit when he left office - only a $22 billion surplus. |
Title: Re: $37 million a day just to pay nation’s interest Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 19th, 2015 at 7:20am
Not fictional, Armpit, structural.
I will keep it simple for the RWNJs here. The boom we had 2001–7 generated boom revenues. Do you disagree, Armpit? Good economic management would have seen the govt book the surpluses, do some work on infrastructure, education etc to boost productivity. Not the idiots Howard & Costello. Into the boom they poured fuel, tax cuts for the rich, pork, wealthfare and the like. Instead of spending on infrastructure Howard raided the infrastructure Budget to get bigger “surpluses” so he could spend more on buying elections. The boom grew bigger, as did inflation. Borrow to spend became the catchcry and credit cards, personal loans and mortgages were raised and increased with gusto. These tax cuts etc were built into the Budget—you cannot deny that we are still paying the Costello tax cuts, right Armpit? And the super tax concessions, estimated to cost the Budget $170Bn over the forward estimates. Do you think these are imaginary, Armpit? CGT excemption, Health Care Rebate etc etc are still being paid too, aren’t they Armpit? These exist (look up Tax expenditures and you will see them in the 2015/16 Budget. What is missing tho now compared the boom times of H&C? Can you answer that, Armpit? It is boom time revenue, right Armpit? We are paying tax cuts and other items (rorts) that we now do not have the revenue for. Not only that, the end of the boom saw households realise that they were in debt up to their eyeballs and no more big increases in house values. The savings ratio shot up as housholds deleveraged (paid down mortgages, personal loans and credit cards.) Households also disleveraged, built up savings. The deleveraging is still going one, John Smith reported people were about 3 years ahead on their mortgage payments. Into this situation abbott and hokey drew up their disastrous 2014 Budget. The result—the savings ratio increased again, spending fell. Now we have low wages growth, increasing unemployment (whatever nonsense the ABS figures show) and Morriscum is trying to apply austerity. We will never dig ourselves out the pit the Howard/Costello, abbott/hokey and turncoat/morriscum have dug without a change in government next year! |
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