You ever wonder why muslims are so stupid as to jump into leaky boats, overload them to point of absolute absurdity?  These brain dead idiots are going to paradise if they drown.

Classifications of Martyrs
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Shaykh Gibril Fouad Haddad Many types of death have been described as martyrdom (shahada) by the Prophet (upon him blessings and peace) in his hadiths, which were gathered in a monograph by Shaykh `Abd Allah al-Ghumari entitled Ithaf al-Nubala’ bi-Fadl al-Shahada wa-Anwa` al-Shuhada’ from which I gathered most of the following: 1. Abu Hurayra (Allah be well-pleased with him) reported that the Prophet said: “Who do you reckon to be martyr (shaheed) among you?” They replied: “The one who is killed in the way of Allah.” He said: “In that case the martyrs among my people would be few!” They asked: “Messenger of Allah! Then who are the martyrs?” He said: “He who is killed in the way of  Allah is a martyr; he who dies naturally in the Cause of Allah is a martyr; he who dies of plague is a martyr; he who dies of a stomach disease is a martyr; and he who is drowned is a martyr.” [Sahih Muslim]. When he was asked why plague is considered as martyrdom, he replied: “It used to be a form of punishment that Allah would send on people, but He made it a mercy for the believers. Any believer who perseveres through it will get the reward of a martyr.” 2. “There are five kinds of martyrs: One who dies of plague; one who dies of a disease of the stomach or intestines; one who drowns; one who is crushed in a collapsing building; and one who is martyred in the way of Allah.” [al-Bukhari, Muslim, Malik] 3. “He who is killed in the way of Allah is a martyr; he who dies of plague is a martyr; a woman who dies due to pregnancy and a woman who dies during delivery, her baby will drag her into Paradise with the umbilical cord.” Musnad Ahmad. 4. “The one who dies of Dhaatul-Janb is a martyr.” Ibn Hibban and others. Dhatul-Janb is a disease in which a swelling happens in a membrane under the rib bones that could lead to death. From the contemporary diseases to which this also applies is death due to cancer. 5. “Dying due to the plague is martyrdom.” al-Bukhari and Muslim. 6. “Whoever is killed defending his property is a martyr.” al-Bukhari and Muslim 7. “He who dies defending his property is a martyr; he who dies in defense of his own life is a martyr; he who dies in defense of his faith is a martyr; and he who dies in defense of his family is a martyr.” Al-Tabarani. 8. “Dying in fire is a martyrdom.” Al-Tabarani and Ibn Hibban. 9. “The keeper of my Sunna at the time my Community has lapsed into corruption will receive the reward of a martyr.” Al-Tabarani. 10. “Anyone who asks for shahada truthfully shall be given it even if it does not happen to him” i.e. even if he dies peacefully in his bed.  Narrated in the Four Sunan. 11. “Whoever leaves his house in the way of Allah then dies or is killed is a shaheed, whether his horse or camel tramples him, or a venomous animal stings him, or he dies in his bed, or in any kind of death Allah wills, truly he is a shaheed and shall have Paradise.” Sunan Abi Dawud and al-Hakim. 12. “There are seven kinds of martyrdom other then being killed in the way of Allah: the victim of a stomach disease (al-mabtun) is a shaheed; the victim of fire is a shaheed; the drowned person is a shaheed; the victim of cancer is a shaheed; the victim of plague is a shaheed; the victim of debris is a shaheed; a woman who dies from complications of pregnancy is a shaheed.” Ahmad, the Sunan, al-Hakim and Ibn Hibban, Sahih. 13. “Whoever dies as a stranger or in a strange land dies a shaheed.” Narrated by Ibn Majah and declared sound by al-Daraqutni. 14. “Whoever recites the Divine Names in the last three verses of Surat al-Hashr after the dawn or after Maghrib then dies that day or that night, dies a shaheed.” Al-Tirmidhi (hasan). 15. From Anas: the Messenger of Allah (upon him blessings and peace) told me: “My son, if you are able to always be on wudu‘ then do so, for the angel of death when he seizes the servant’s soul while the latter is in wudu‘, he records martyrdom for him.” Al-Bayhaqi in Shu`ab al-Iman and al-Hakeem al-Tirmidhi in Nawadir al-Usul. 16. “Whoever prays duha; fasts three days of the month; and never omits witr, shall receive the reward of a martyr.” Al-Tabarani in al-Kabir. 17. “If death comes to the student of knowledge while he is thus engaged, he dies as a martyr.” Al-Bazzar with a very weak chain. 18. “Whoever falls passionately in love (`ashiqa) but remains chaste and keeps his love secret then dies, dies a shaheed.” Narrated by al-Hakim and others. The hafiz Mughultay said: “Its chain is like the sun, there is not the least doubt over its soundness whatsoever.” 19. “Whoever dies the night before Jumu`ah or the day of Jumu`ah will be spared the punishment of the grave; and he shall come on the Day of Resurrection bearing the stamp of martyrs.” Abu Nu`aym from Jabir but the most authentic part is the first part. 20. “The rider who dies thrown off by his mount is a shaheed.” Al-Tabarani. 21. “The one who speaks to a tyrannical leader and commands and forbids him, then the latter kills him–he is a shaheed.” Al-Hakim. 22. “The muezzin who expects reward is like the bloodied shaheed and when he dies and is buried the worms leave him alone.” Al-Tabarani.

moses wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:08pm:

You ever wonder why ...

Nope.

I wonder why some people are so paralysed with irrational fear & hatred, that they can't even drag themselves out of bed in the morning.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:15pm:

I wonder why some people are so paralysed with irrational fear & hatred,

You are the one with an irrational fear of licensed firearm owners who the Police commissioner says are no danger to public safety.

Peccahead is a hoplophobe.

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:15pm: I wonder why some people are so paralysed with irrational fear & hatred, You are the one with an irrational fear of licensed firearm owners who the Police commissioner says are no danger to public safety. Peccahead is a hoplophobe.

If that's what the police commissioner says, he's an absolute idiot.

Nobody can accurately predict how people will or will not act in the future.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:25pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:15pm: I wonder why some people are so paralysed with irrational fear & hatred, You are the one with an irrational fear of licensed firearm owners who the Police commissioner says are no danger to public safety. Peccahead is a hoplophobe. If that's what the police commissioner says, he's an absolute idiot. Nobody can accurately predict how people will or will not act in the future.

More evidence for peccahead's hoplophobia

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:25pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:15pm: I wonder why some people are so paralysed with irrational fear & hatred, You are the one with an irrational fear of licensed firearm owners who the Police commissioner says are no danger to public safety. Peccahead is a hoplophobe. If that's what the police commissioner says, he's an absolute idiot. Nobody can accurately predict how people will or will not act in the future. More evidence for peccahead's hoplophobia

I didn't even mention a gun.

I said the police commissioner is an idiot.

Try to keep up - there's a good lad.

Nobody can accurately predict how people will or will not act in the future.

Being a licensed firearm owner doesn't mean that you will never commit a crime.

Anyone who believes such nonsense is clearly in need of some professional help.

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:23pm:

... licensed firearm owners who the Police commissioner says are no danger to public safety.

Excellent.

All we need do to ensure that our cities are safe, is issue everyone with a firearm and a license.

Brilliant!

When a violent offender comes out of prison, we just give them a firearm and a license and everything will be OK.

They'll never be a danger to anyone ever again (after all, you did say that "licensed firearm owners ... are no danger to public safety").

You and your police commissioner buddy have found a fool proof way of preventing crime: just issue everyone with a firearm and a license.

Brilliant!

moses wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:08pm:

You ever wonder why muslims are so stupid as to jump into leaky boats, overload them to point of absolute absurdity?  These brain dead idiots are going to paradise if they drown.

Funny, I thought it was their retarded brain due to inbreeding.

Probably got a lot to do with it also.

But you can't improve without destroying islam, so the future looks bleak for you gandalf.

I often wonder why too, Moses. Why did God create such beautiful fruits and flowers for us to enjoy? Why did He give us each other in order to discover His own presence? Why did He give us problems and struggles to overcome and bring us gratitude? Why did He breathe life into all atoms and cells to experience His own presence in the very struggle of being?

We have so much to be thankful for - even our burdens are blessings. I often wonder why I've been given so much in this life when I've given so little in return. Sometimes my anger, doubt and ignorance clouds the presence of God in everything, but my wonder helps me remember who we truly are.

We must have wonder. I'm glad you wonder too. We all wonder, just as God wondered each and every one of us into being.

It is a wondrous world, no?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:23pm: ... licensed firearm owners who the Police commissioner says are no danger to public safety. Excellent. All we need do to ensure that our cities are safe, is issue everyone with a firearm and a license. Brilliant! When a violent offender comes out of prison, we just give them a firearm and a license and everything will be OK. They'll never be a danger to anyone ever again (after all, you did say that "licensed firearm owners ... are no danger to public safety"). You and your police commissioner buddy have found a fool proof way of preventing crime: just issue everyone with a firearm and a license. Brilliant!

Gawd, you are thicker then crusty old molasses. Thicker than aged turd. Thicker than osmium.

Soren wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 6:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:46pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:23pm: ... licensed firearm owners who the Police commissioner says are no danger to public safety. Excellent. All we need do to ensure that our cities are safe, is issue everyone with a firearm and a license. Brilliant! When a violent offender comes out of prison, we just give them a firearm and a license and everything will be OK. They'll never be a danger to anyone ever again (after all, you did say that "licensed firearm owners ... are no danger to public safety"). You and your police commissioner buddy have found a fool proof way of preventing crime: just issue everyone with a firearm and a license. Brilliant! Gawd, you are thicker then crusty old molasses. Thicker than aged turd. Thicker than osmium.

This is thick:

"... licensed firearm owners who the Police commissioner says are no danger to public safety."

And by the way, stop sending those threatening PMs.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 6:07pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 6:04pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:46pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:23pm: ... licensed firearm owners who the Police commissioner says are no danger to public safety. Excellent. All we need do to ensure that our cities are safe, is issue everyone with a firearm and a license. Brilliant! When a violent offender comes out of prison, we just give them a firearm and a license and everything will be OK. They'll never be a danger to anyone ever again (after all, you did say that "licensed firearm owners ... are no danger to public safety"). You and your police commissioner buddy have found a fool proof way of preventing crime: just issue everyone with a firearm and a license. Brilliant! Gawd, you are thicker then crusty old molasses. Thicker than aged turd. Thicker than osmium. This is thick: "... licensed firearm owners who the Police commissioner says are no danger to public safety." And by the way, stop sending those threatening PMs.

Which terrorist in Australia was a licensed firearm owner, turd?


Which threatening PMs are you referring to, (p)Rick?

Yes, we all wonder why. Who shoots the guns? What threatening PMs? Who is the tjurd?

All important things to ponder.

Soren wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 6:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 6:07pm: Soren wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 6:04pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:46pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:23pm: ... licensed firearm owners who the Police commissioner says are no danger to public safety. Excellent. All we need do to ensure that our cities are safe, is issue everyone with a firearm and a license. Brilliant! When a violent offender comes out of prison, we just give them a firearm and a license and everything will be OK. They'll never be a danger to anyone ever again (after all, you did say that "licensed firearm owners ... are no danger to public safety"). You and your police commissioner buddy have found a fool proof way of preventing crime: just issue everyone with a firearm and a license. Brilliant! Gawd, you are thicker then crusty old molasses. Thicker than aged turd. Thicker than osmium. This is thick: "... licensed firearm owners who the Police commissioner says are no danger to public safety." And by the way, stop sending those threatening PMs. Which terrorist in Australia was a licensed firearm owner, turd? Which threatening PMs are you referring to, (p)Rick?

Ah, Soren "thinks" that the only people who are a danger to public safety are terrorists.

The "brain" washing is almost complete.

Can I expect another threatening PM now, Soren?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 6:38pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 6:07pm: Soren wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 6:04pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:46pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:23pm: ... licensed firearm owners who the Police commissioner says are no danger to public safety. Excellent. All we need do to ensure that our cities are safe, is issue everyone with a firearm and a license. Brilliant! When a violent offender comes out of prison, we just give them a firearm and a license and everything will be OK. They'll never be a danger to anyone ever again (after all, you did say that "licensed firearm owners ... are no danger to public safety"). You and your police commissioner buddy have found a fool proof way of preventing crime: just issue everyone with a firearm and a license. Brilliant! Gawd, you are thicker then crusty old molasses. Thicker than aged turd. Thicker than osmium. This is thick: "... licensed firearm owners who the Police commissioner says are no danger to public safety." And by the way, stop sending those threatening PMs. Which terrorist in Australia was a licensed firearm owner, turd? Which threatening PMs are you referring to, (p)Rick? Ah, Soren "thinks" that the only people who are a danger to public safety are terrorists. The "brain" washing is almost complete. Can I expect another threatening PM now, Soren?

I have never come across anyone as deformed in his character as you. It is really fascinating. You are carrying an enormous nightmare on your back, all the time. I can see you are suffering but perversely you are clinging to your deformity and hideousness. To you it's either the comfort of that familiar hideousness or the terrifying unknown.



PB or Chimp are lucid and credible compared you you. And PB is nothing but a stupid, tendentious, distorting, lying Paki arsefancier. But he knows that. Even Chimp knows that he nothing but an ape.

But you beat them all. Frightened, deformed - and also unaware, unmoored. No matter what, you will never have an insight into who you are.  You are the definitional psychopath - zero insight into your own state of being.i

Soren wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 7:55pm:

I have never come across anyone ...

Sir Booby tells a different story.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, old boy.

Soren wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 7:55pm:

PB is nothing but a stupid, tendentious, distorting, lying Paki arsefancier.

Watch out Karnal - the old boy's getting frisky.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 7:55pm: I have never come across anyone ... Sir Booby tells a different story. Not that there's anything wrong with that, old boy.

I have often wondered why we seek love in so few places when love is there for all. I have often wondered why we hate others when the object of our affliction lies in ourselves.

I wonder these things, and many more.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 8:01pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 7:55pm: PB is nothing but a stupid, tendentious, distorting, lying Paki arsefancier. Watch out Karnal - the old boy's getting frisky.

He’s supposed to have had his sleeper by now. I’ll get the restraints out just in case.

I have often wondered why they don’t just go to sleep.

Karnal wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 7:58pm: Soren wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 7:55pm: I have never come across anyone ... Sir Booby tells a different story. Not that there's anything wrong with that, old boy. I have often wondered why we seek love in so few places when love is there for all. I have often wondered why we hate others when the object of our affliction lies in ourselves. I wonder these things, and many more.

Most people that can't get laid or a partner wonder such such things.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 7:55pm: I have never come across anyone ... Sir Booby tells a different story. Not that there's anything wrong with that, old boy.

.... deformed in his character as you. It is really fascinating. You are carrying an enormous nightmare on your back, all the time. I can see you are suffering but perversely you are clinging to your deformity and hideousness. To you it's either the comfort of that familiar hideousness or the terrifying unknown.



PB or Chimp are lucid and credible compared you you. And PB is nothing but a stupid, tendentious, distorting, lying Paki arsefancier. But he knows that. Even Chimp knows that he nothing but an ape.

But you beat them all. Frightened, deformed - and also unaware, unmoored. No matter what, you will never have an insight into who you are.  You are the definitional psychopath - zero insight into your own state of being.




I think your role on this earth is to be a warning to the rest of us - beware lest you turn into something like Gweg Da Turd.

You do perform a public service as a continuous deterrent - look at gweg, you could be like him if you surrender your judgement, humanity, morals, reason.


Ta, turd. Salute yourself.  You DO have a use. 

Soren wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 8:34pm:

I think

Soren, let's be realistic.

There's not a single forum member who believes that.

Not even you.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 8:37pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 8:34pm: I think Soren, let's be realistic. There's not a single forum member who believes that. J Not even you.

Shouldn't you be starting a new thread about how sore your vajayjay is after Soren has once again filled it with sand?

AtticusserFincherary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 8:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 8:37pm: Soren wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 8:34pm: I think Soren, let's be realistic. There's not a single forum member who believes that. J Not even you. Shouldn't you be starting a new thread about how sore your vajayjay is after Soren has once again filled it with sand?

Shouldn't you be writing out your lines:

"double plus good should not accuse people of being paedophiles".

;D

You can chalk that one up with the many, many others where you have been completely wrong.

That's a longer list than you have of pre primary and day care centres in your area.

AtticusserFincherary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 9:07pm:

You can chalk that one up with the many, many others where you have been completely wrong. That's a longer list than you have of pre primary and day care centres in your area.

;D   

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greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 8:37pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 8:34pm: I think Soren, let's be realistic. There's not a single forum member who believes that. Not even you.

Yes, Greggery, Soren is filled with wonder. He burns with curiousity about his fellow human souls. He seeks, as do we all,  to understand all creation through them.

Oh, many think, but few seek to understand. We must revere such seekers among us, just as we honour and revere the prophets of the past - and of the future.

Each of us may be such a prophet - if not now, but then.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 9:14pm:

AtticusserFincherary wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 9:07pm: You can chalk that one up with the many, many others where you have been completely wrong. That's a longer list than you have of pre primary and day care centres in your area. ;D

Do you only use puppets to put your targets at ease or do you also have a bag of lollies too?

Moses: "You ever wonder why muslims are so stupid as to jump into leaky boats, overload them to point of absolute absurdity?  These brain dead idiots are going to paradise if they drown."

Of course, they always have paradise for back up. But the number-one reason is a chance at taking advantage of gullible Western legal systems in the spread of Islam. Which is also the reason why people like Gandalf and David Hicks don't move to Mecca.

issuevoter wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 9:26pm:

Moses: "You ever wonder why muslims are so stupid as to jump into leaky boats, overload them to point of absolute absurdity?  These brain dead idiots are going to paradise if they drown." Of course, they always have paradise for back up. But the number-one reason is a chance at taking advantage of gullible Western legal systems in the spread of Islam. Which is also the reason why people like Gandalf and David Hicks don't move to Mecca.

Exactly, they need to ruin other peoples societies before moving on. Like termites.

issuevoter wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 9:26pm:

Moses: "You ever wonder why muslims are so stupid as to jump into leaky boats, overload them to point of absolute absurdity?  These brain dead idiots are going to paradise if they drown." Of course, they always have paradise for back up. But the number-one reason is a chance at taking advantage of gullible Western legal systems in the spread of Islam. Which is also the reason why people like Gandalf and David Hicks don't move to Mecca.

We all have access to paradise, Issue but only if we seek it first, in this life. A life of sadness, bitterness and futility only leads to hell.

A life of wonder leads to paradise, as every school child knows.

May I suggest you wear a fire resistant suit then for when your turn for hell comes.

You wonder why muslims are incessantly killing people? muslims non muslims, it makes no difference, the killings go on.

The  meaning  of  islam  is  submission  to  the  will  of
allah.

islam divides the world into dar al-islam, literally the house or region of submission, those lands under  muslim / sharia  government 

The remainder is called  dar  al-harb,  the house or region of war, those lands where muslims (as you think a muslim should be) are  in  the  minority.

This differentiation between people does not only mean muslim and non muslim.

Any muslims who lives under a dissimilar code (don't submit to allah exactly the way you think they should) can be slotted into dar  al-harb.

The muslims who all live and want sharia law, consider muslims who are not totally committed to sharia to be in dar al-harb, hence the everlasting killing of each other.   

For  muslims  peace  cannot  be achieved untill the whole world is dar al-islam.

Until that time there will be conflict in dar al-harb.

The trouble is the pro sharia extremists are the higher grade of muslim according to islam and muslims and their apologists stay well away from doing something about the evil in the qur'an. 

As I've always said islam is divinely led by a doctrine of death and destruction.

There will never be peace on earth until muslims expunge the hatred and childish stupidity from their sacred texts.

Problem is they can't without destroying islam, so they are quiet happy for islamic sponsored human misery to run unabated, rather than acknowledge that islam, allah, muhammad and the qur'an simply are not acceptable in any decent 21st century civilized society.

islam is a 7th century handbook for committing human rights atrocities against any of your fellow man you differ with.

Google dar al-islam dar  al-harb

What moses stated, in post #33,     .....is a fair assessment, imo.



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Google;
Koran, is, a terrorist instruction manual

n.b.
Every devout moslem, considers the words, the content, of the Koran to be a holy guide [as per, Allah's words], as to how a devout moslem should live his life, every day.


gandalf,

Any contest, on the claim i have made, above  ['Every devout moslem, considers the words, the content,....'] ?



Google;
parallels between Islam and the Mafia




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CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0

Quote:

Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems. ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers']. .....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac" - Yadda QUESTION; What about the innocent moslems ? IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems. How so [logically] ? QUESTION; How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ? QUESTION; How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ? QUESTION; How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

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IMAGE...
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/_admin/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/129.jpeg

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami



Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior January 18, 2012 Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong "...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance. When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-islamic-behavior/



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And your own moslem 'friend(s)' ???


QUESTION;

If your own moslem 'friend', is indeed a moslem,       .....then where does his/her real allegiance and real friendship lay ?



Google;
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"



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Quote:

July 28, 2006 Islamic Dictionary for Infidels ...Robert Spencer, ..."Religious deception of unbelievers is indeed taught by the Qur'an itself: "Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them" (Qur'an 3:28). In other words, don't make friends with unbelievers except to "guard yourselves from them": pretend to be their friends so that you can strengthen yourself against them. The distinguished Qur'anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that this verse teaches that if "believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers," they may "show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly."

Google

moses wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:08pm:

You ever wonder why ...

... Yadda is allowed to be out in public?

Yes.  Every day.


http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/16181215/6/stock-photo-16181215-crazy-man-in-straight-jacket-with-crossed-eyes-.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 8:23pm:

moses wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:08pm: You ever wonder why ... ... Yadda is allowed to be out in public? Yes.  Every day. http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/16181215/6/stock-photo-16181215-crazy-man-in-straight-jacket-with-crossed-eyes-.jpg

"Yadda is allowed to be out in public?"



Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.         :)


That i am a person who can freely walk the streets of Australia.

And that i can freely express my opinions and views, on a public forum like OzPol, here in Australia.

The poor thing that you are.




greggery,

Yeah, people like me, should not be permitted to open their mouths.

That is correct.

Yes ?

And, that is YOUR opinion, on the issue of free and open debate,          .....on a public forum like OzPol, here in Australia.




greggery,

You are a FASCIST BIGOT.

Don't deny it.




Concise Ox Dictionary;
bigot = =
a person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others.

n.b.
Bigots, are those people who are,
".....intolerant of the opinions of others."



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Yadda said....

Quote:

I have been 60+ years on this planet, and have been a peaceable and law abiding Australian citizen. I have never been to goal. I have never been charged with, nor convicted of, any criminal offence. I have never had a drink driving charge or conviction. I have never had an illicit drug possession/use charge or conviction.

Google

Yes,  Greggery, we all wonder why. We also wonder why we do not allow ourselves to be in private, within ourselves.

Coming to know thyself is the only way to paradise. The Kingdom, as we know, lies within. We must keep wondering why. Why?

Oh, we can fill our minds and our worlds with words. We can fill up our days with the words and deeds of others, blaming evil-doers, blaming justice, blaming God Himself. We can point out the mote in the eye of our brother, because it’s all so hard to cast out the beam in our own.

But we can only change by wondering why. Yes, why do we allow ourselves to be in public? But why not in private, within ourselves?

God may take away our hands, our tongues, our eyes. But we are all still free to wonder why.

Yadda wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 8:23pm: moses wrote on Dec 10th, 2015 at 3:08pm: You ever wonder why ... ... Yadda is allowed to be out in public? Yes.  Every day. http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/16181215/6/stock-photo-16181215-crazy-man-in-straight-jacket-with-crossed-eyes-.jpg "Yadda is allowed to be out in public?" Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.         :) That i am a person who can freely walk the streets of Australia. And that i can freely express my opinions and views, on a public forum like OzPol, here in Australia. The poor thing that you are. greggery, Yeah, people like me, should not be permitted to open their mouths. That is correct. Yes ? And, that is YOUR opinion, on the issue of free and open debate,          .....on a public forum like OzPol, here in Australia. greggery, You are a FASCIST BIGOT. Don't deny it. Concise Ox Dictionary; bigot = = a person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others. n.b. Bigots, are those people who are, ".....intolerant of the opinions of others." . Yadda said.... Quote: I have been 60+ years on this planet, and have been a peaceable and law abiding Australian citizen. I have never been to goal. I have never been charged with, nor convicted of, any criminal offence. I have never had a drink driving charge or conviction. I have never had an illicit drug possession/use charge or conviction. Google

As you can see, Yadda also wonders why.

Y?

Yadda wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:30pm:

greggery, Yeah, people like me, should not be permitted to open their mouths. That is correct. Yes ? And, that is YOUR opinion, on the issue of free and open debate,          .....on a public forum like OzPol, here in Australia. greggery, You are a FASCIST BIGOT. Don't deny it. Concise Ox Dictionary; bigot = = a person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others. n.b. Bigots, are those people who are, ".....intolerant of the opinions of others."

greggery,

I do not want to restrict expression, and free and open debate,          .....on a public forum.

I want people to tell me their point of view,       .....and i want them to defend it, if they can,         .....in free and open debate.

The expression of IDEAS, in an environment of free and open debate, is politically healthy.

Free and open debate,        ....is a contest of IDEAS !!!


e.g.
A person like Donald Trump ?

If you disagree with his opinions and views, express that disagreement.

But don't try to gag him, don't try to silence his views, his opinion,      by shouting him down, or by denying him a forum to speak.

If you disagree with his opinions and views, debate him, DEFEAT HIM IN FREE AND OPEN DEBATE,        ....if you think that your own opinion and views, are superior to his.





But you, and people from your side of politics [and, moslems too],           .....they are the ones who simply want to 'shut down' and silence,        ....anyone who does not agree with their worldview.

QUESTION;

Why would you do that ???

Why would you support that kind of political 'climate' or political 'environment' ???

A political 'environment', where only the powerful and only those who are 'approved',     ....are allowed to express an opinion ???



greggery,

That is how DICTATORS and DICTATORSHIPS 'work'.

That is how FASCISTS and FASCIST GOVERNMENTS 'work'.

They seize political power,         .....and then they shut down all public expression which could be critical of their rule, and of their conduct.




greggery,

Again, you are a FASCIST BIGOT.

That is what is in your heart.

i.e.
Murder.

That is the way to silence people, and every fascist knows that.

Reply to post #37


Yes Karnal.

No need to enter into reasoned debate.

No need to present an argument           [....that you would then have to be prepared to defend].

Just denigrate me.

Just disparage me.



Dictionary;
denigrate = = criticize unfairly; disparage.


Dictionary;
disparage = = represent as being of little worth;   scorn.




Yep, you are a real intellectual giant, aren't you Karnal.         :)

Intellectual giant ????

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I think Karnal has a bit of a drinking problem.

Yadda wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:18pm:

But you, and people from your side of politics [and, moslems too],           .....they are the ones who simply want to 'shut down' and silence,        ....anyone who does not agree with their worldview. QUESTION; Why would you do that ??? Why would you support that kind of political 'climate' or political 'environment' ??? A political 'environment', where only the powerful and only those who are 'approved',     ....are allowed to express an opinion ??? greggery, That is how DICTATORS and DICTATORSHIPS 'work'. That is how FASCISTS and FASCIST GOVERNMENTS 'work'. They seize political power,         .....and then they shut down all public expression which could be critical of their rule, and of their conduct.

"They seize political power,         .....and then they shut down all public expression which could be critical of their rule, and of their conduct."



An example of this is happening today, right in front of our eyes !!

Turkey.

ian wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 10:55pm:

I think Karnal has a bit of a drinking problem.

LOL

Yadda wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 9:30pm:

Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.

Yes.

Insane people should be locked away from the rest of society.

I wonder why it is that you are allowed to walk the streets.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 9:30pm: Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.        Yes. Insane people should be locked away from the rest of society. I wonder why it is that you are allowed to walk the streets.

Taking a wild guess I'd say that it is because Yadda is not insane.

You on the other hand come across as a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

abdullah wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 11:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:49pm: Yadda wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 9:30pm: Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.        Yes. Insane people should be locked away from the rest of society. I wonder why it is that you are allowed to walk the streets. Taking a wild guess .

We're not here to find out who your father is.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 11:56pm:

abdullah wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:52pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:49pm: Yadda wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 9:30pm: Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.        Yes. Insane people should be locked away from the rest of society. I wonder why it is that you are allowed to walk the streets. Taking a wild guess . We're not here to find out who your father is.

Well done *Golf Clap* small steps little fella small steps.

abdullah wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:56pm: abdullah wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:52pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:49pm: Yadda wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 9:30pm: Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.        Yes. Insane people should be locked away from the rest of society. I wonder why it is that you are allowed to walk the streets. Taking a wild guess . We're not here to find out who your father is. Well done *Golf Clap* small steps little fella small steps.

Indeed.

We'll find him/it eventually.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:12am:

abdullah wrote on Dec 12th, 2015 at 12:00am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:56pm: abdullah wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:52pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:49pm: Yadda wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 9:30pm: Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.        Yes. Insane people should be locked away from the rest of society. I wonder why it is that you are allowed to walk the streets. Taking a wild guess . We're not here to find out who your father is. Well done *Golf Clap* small steps little fella small steps. Indeed. We'll find him/it eventually.

Oh so now you and everyone inside your head are here to find my father now.

I hope you get over your schizophrenic mental problem soon.

Yes, we all wonder.

It is a jolly world, no?

There is no we, just you, and all those inside your head.

I agree it appears a jolly old world inside looney Pakistani heads these days.

Give allah and mohammad a big juicy kiss for us all.

abdullah wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 12:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2015 at 12:12am: abdullah wrote on Dec 12th, 2015 at 12:00am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:56pm: abdullah wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:52pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:49pm: Yadda wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 9:30pm: Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.        Yes. Insane people should be locked away from the rest of society. I wonder why it is that you are allowed to walk the streets. Taking a wild guess . We're not here to find out who your father is. Well done *Golf Clap* small steps little fella small steps. Indeed. We'll find him/it eventually. Oh so now you are here to find my father now.

It's our civic duty,

We'll flush him out eventually.

Good point, Greggery. No one’s unflushable.

This part was stated by peckerhead

"I wonder why some people are so paralysed with irrational fear & hatred, that they can't even drag themselves out of bed in the morning."

President Obama plans to resettle 10,000 Syrian refugees in the U.S. during fiscal year 2016. Since FY2016 began on October 1, a total of 528 Syrian refugees have been admitted into the U.S. They comprise 522 (98.8 percent) Sunni Muslims and six Christians – three Catholic, one Orthodox, one Greek Orthodox and one simply described as “Christian.”

According to Refugee Processing Center data, 137 of the 528 (25.9 percent) admitted since Oct. 1 are men aged between 14 and 50; 117 (22.1 percent) are women aged 14-50; 250 (47.3 percent) are children, of whom 132 are boys and 118 are girls; and 24 (4.5 percent) are older than 50, of whom 12 are men and 12 women.

Since the Syrian civil war began in mid-March 2011, a total of 2,401 Syrian refugees have been admitted into the U.S.  Of those, 2,241 (93.3 percent) were Sunni Muslims, an additional 60 were described simply as “Moslem,” and 13 were Shia.

Only 54 (2.2 percent) were Christian (including five Orthodox, one Greek Orthodox and four Catholics). The remaining religious breakdown was eight Jehovah’s Witness, six Zoroastrians, three atheists, two Baha’i, one Yazidi, seven “no religion” and six “other religion.”

What do all reckon to that?

Yes PeckerHead is a Racist Bigot and also a commie!

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 9:30pm: Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.        Yes. Insane people should be locked away from the rest of society. I wonder why it is that you are allowed to walk the streets.

greggery,

Yep, i agree.

I suggest, that you contact [by email ?] your local commonwealth parliamentary representative,     ....and appraise him/her of your concerns about a certain poster, here on OzPol !



greggery,

To underline your concerns,         ....you could provide your commonwealth parliamentary representative with a few links to some of my posts, here on OzPol.

That will surely see some action taken!!!



http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449724120/34#34

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449724120/39#39

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1447536334/0#0

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1447575146/46#46

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1447804617/5#5

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1443403858/0#0

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1420940572/0#0

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1445652153/0#0

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1444453452/0#0

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1445304771/0#0

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1418244166/15#15



p.s.
If there is anyone else here on OzPol who is of the opinion that i am 'insane',            .....then i suggest that YOU TOO, contact by email, your local commonwealth parliamentary representative,           .....and include all of the links [above] to [some of] my posts, here on OzPol.         !!!!!!!         :)

And remember, it is your civic duty as a concerned citizen of Australia, to do this.      :)



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'Normal' criminal behaviour - in mankind
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1293669294/0#0

Quote:

A simple definition of SANITY/INSANITY. Typically, an unrestrained sane person will act in ways which are harmless to others, and in ways which are creative, and productive [for himself, others, and society]. And typically, and conversely, an unrestrained INSANE person will act in ways which are harmful and destructive to himself, and, or, others around him.

We all wonder why, Y. You're free to wonder too.

Karnal wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 6:37pm:

We all wonder why, Y. You're free to wonder too.

We all being all the voices inside your head.

Yadda wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 6:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:49pm: Yadda wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 9:30pm: Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.        Yes. Insane people should be locked away from the rest of society. I wonder why it is that you are allowed to walk the streets. greggery, Yep, i agree.

Have yourself committed then.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 9:30pm: Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.        Yes. Insane people should be locked away from the rest of society. I wonder why it is that you are allowed to walk the streets.

You are not locked up for being Insane yet and are still on the streets.

Ever wondered why muslims are able to carry out the most inhumane of atrocities against their fellow man, actually go into a euphoric stupor while perpetrating these depravities against human beings?

A group of pagans carrying out their 7th century blood lusts without blinking an eye.

Fanaticism at it's evil worst, with talking rocks and trees:



The Black Stone called al-Hajar-ul-Aswad

Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 961; Ibn Maajah, 2944
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning the Stone:
“By Allaah, Allaah will bring it forth on the Day of Resurrection, and it will have two eyes with which it will see and a tongue with which it will speak, and it will testify in favour of those who touched it in sincerity.”

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Sahih Bukhari 4:56:784
The Prophet used to stand by a tree or a date-palm on Friday. Then an
Ansari woman or man said. "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we make a pulpit for you?" He replied, "If you wish." So they made a pulpit for him and when it was Friday, he proceeded towards the pulpit (for delivering the sermon). The date-palm cried like a child! The Prophet descended (the pulpit) and embraced it while it continued moaning like a child being quieted. The Prophet said, "It was crying for (missing) what it used to hear of religious knowledge given near to it.

Narrated Abu Huraira Sahih Bukhari 4:54:482:
Allah's Apostle said, "The (Hell) Fire complained to its Lord saying, 'O my Lord! My different parts eat up each other.' So, He allowed it to take two breaths, one in the winter and the other in summer, and this is the reason for the severe heat and the bitter cold you find (in weather)."

Narrated ‘Abdur-Rahman Sahih Bukhari 5:58:199: 
"I asked Masruq, ‘Who informed the Prophet about the Jinns at the night when they heard the Qur'an?’ He said, ‘Your father ‘Abdullah informed me that a tree informed the Prophet about them.’"

Sahih Muslim 30:5654:
Jabir b. Samura reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: I recognise the stone in Mecca which used to pay me salutations before my advent as a Prophet and I recognise that even now.

Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 791:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6981:
Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

abdullah wrote on Dec 12^th, 2015 at 7:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 11:49pm: Yadda wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 9:30pm: Yeah, that fact must really 'grate' with someone like yourself.        Yes. Insane people should be locked away from the rest of society. I wonder why it is that you are allowed to walk the streets. You are not locked up .

Correct.  I'm sane.

Apologist.

moses wrote on Dec 17^th, 2015 at 2:55pm:

Ever wondered why muslims are able to carry out the most inhumane of atrocities against their fellow man, actually go into a euphoric stupor while perpetrating these depravities against human beings? A group of pagans carrying out their 7th century blood lusts without blinking an eye. Fanaticism at it's evil worst, with talking rocks and trees: The Black Stone called al-Hajar-ul-Aswad Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 961; Ibn Maajah, 2944 The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning the Stone: “By Allaah, Allaah will bring it forth on the Day of Resurrection, and it will have two eyes with which it will see and a tongue with which it will speak, and it will testify in favour of those who touched it in sincerity.” Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Sahih Bukhari 4:56:784 The Prophet used to stand by a tree or a date-palm on Friday. Then an Ansari woman or man said. "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we make a pulpit for you?" He replied, "If you wish." So they made a pulpit for him and when it was Friday, he proceeded towards the pulpit (for delivering the sermon). The date-palm cried like a child! The Prophet descended (the pulpit) and embraced it while it continued moaning like a child being quieted. The Prophet said, "It was crying for (missing) what it used to hear of religious knowledge given near to it. Narrated Abu Huraira Sahih Bukhari 4:54:482: Allah's Apostle said, "The (Hell) Fire complained to its Lord saying, 'O my Lord! My different parts eat up each other.' So, He allowed it to take two breaths, one in the winter and the other in summer, and this is the reason for the severe heat and the bitter cold you find (in weather)." Narrated ‘Abdur-Rahman Sahih Bukhari 5:58:199:  "I asked Masruq, ‘Who informed the Prophet about the Jinns at the night when they heard the Qur'an?’ He said, ‘Your father ‘Abdullah informed me that a tree informed the Prophet about them.’" Sahih Muslim 30:5654: Jabir b. Samura reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: I recognise the stone in Mecca which used to pay me salutations before my advent as a Prophet and I recognise that even now. Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 791: Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: I heard Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' " Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6981: Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

We all wonder why, Moses. The great religious texts help us to ponder, but we do the wondering ourselves.

It is truly a wondrous world.

arrated by al-Tirmidhi, 961; Ibn Maajah, 2944
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning the Stone:
“By Allaah, Allaah will bring it forth on the Day of Resurrection, and it will have two eyes with which it will see and a tongue with which it will speak, and it will testify in favour of those who touched it in sincerity.”


over 1500 of these pagan half-wits were crushed to death this year alone, let alone the hundreds more that were injured, trying to ingratiate themselves with a stone that is going to get eyes and a tongue in order testify for their benefit.

What a bunch of heathenish imbeciles.

But then again muslims and their aploogists won't have it any other way.

We must keep wondering, Moses. We must never stop. We live, love and wonder why. Man does not live on.bread alone, but by the very breath of God.

Ever wondered why muslims are trapped in their blood lust?

Genesis 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

Genesis 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

muhammad, claiming to be an apostle of allah, was able to take the arabs and instill religious fanaticism into their daily lives turning them into a zombie like death cult, rape, torture and murder the norm against all men muslim or non muslim.

This death cult has been with us now for almost 1400 years.

muhammad"s modus operandi involved an aggressive “bloody-sword” ideology. The sword” became “the key to heaven and hell,” and whoever died in battle received pardon from all sin and entered into the joys of a sensual paradise (allah's brothel in the sky filled with houri's with big breasts).

The blood sword ideology practiced in all muslim nations. Right now today (2015), in countries where islam prevails, persecution against non-muslims is rampant.

muslim terrorist rapists torturers and mass murderers are not an expression of muslim radicalism; it is islam in its purest form.

It's the fruition of“his hand against every man”!

Satanic muslims fulfilling their biblical destiny

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I read the below on the net, seems spot on to me

The Curse of Cain

Posted by Daniel Greenfield Monday June 30  2014

Here

After Cain killed his brother, the Lord told him, "A fugitive and a wanderer shalt thou be in the earth."

But the natural order has been reversed, instead the Abels, if they survive, become homeless wanderers and the Cains build their Caliphates on the tombs of their victims.

"Cursed shall you be from the earth," the Lord said, and so it has been. 

The earth under their feet may be cursed, it yields nothing but sand and thistles, but they are nomads, forgetting agriculture, remembering only their tradecraft of murder. They become worshipers of death dreaming of the green verdant fields of paradise which they can reach only if they kill enough men, women and children.

Leaving devastation behind them, dead lands, lost cultures, widows and orphans, they claw their way up to heaven on a ladder of bones.

Everything around them dies until the only green is on their flags. They are cursed from the earth and they curse the earth. Where they go, the world dies.

It is not murder that makes it impossible for Abel to live with Cain says the State Department, says the European Union and says the New York Times. It is Abel's fields and houses that provoke Cain.

The PLO formed a unity government with Hamas and the loud voice of consensus, the voice of men who imagine that they become god when they speak in a single voice, is that it was the Israeli houses that were to blame. It is not Cain's fault that he kills. It is Abel's fault that he builds.

Of the three kidnapped and murdered boys, two Israeli and one American, Jodi Rudoren of the New York Times wrote, "Palestinians... see the very act of attending (school) yeshiva in a West Bank settlement as provocation."

Abel is forever provoking Cain who rises up and kills him. And if only Abel hadn't had so many sheep, if only he hadn't built so well, if only he hadn't made the desert bloom, if only he hadn't won so many wars and if only G-d didn't appear to favor him.

Cain sows fields of corpses of the innocent for the Lord and he still does not understand why his sacrifice is not accepted and why the earth he dwells on is cursed.

Abel does his best to appease Cain with gifts of earth, but the earth is useless to Cain. What good is cursed earth to cursed men? What can a man plant in the desert? What can he harvest when everything dies at his touch? All he can offer is a harvest of death.

That is what he brings to the faintly remembered Creator he calls Allah. From Iraq to Iran, from Kuwait to Saudi Arabia, from Nigeria to Somalia, from Pakistan to Indonesia, he holds up human heads and cries, "Allahu Akbar."

As if G-d needs such petty proofs of superiority.

Cain cannot be appeased with earth. The earth is his curse. All that lives hates him and he hates all that lives. He tortures animals and raises dead crops. He kills his daughters and sisters, his mother, the source of his life and the source of his future, for the same honor that made Cain the first killer.

There is no use negotiating with Cain. There is no compromise that he will accept. Cain is his own curse. He loves death and that is all he will ever have. His acolytes cry, "We love death, you love life."

Cain was meant to wander the earth. To be a rootless nomad whose curse of death would not collect in any single place. He was not meant to build kingdoms of death. He was not meant to rule over a Caliphate of death and a culture of death.

There is no room for Cain anywhere. Where he remains there will be death and suffering. He will kill because it is all he can do. He has nothing else to offer the world, his own kind or the Creator.

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The curse of the earth that he brings can only be lifted when he is removed from it. Only when Cain is driven out, will the land come into its fullness, will the people know peace and will the shadow lift from the valleys, mountains, rivers and cities of the land.

Cain seeks sympathy in his wanderings. With bloody hands, he pleads his case. Every one of his victims made him do it. From the east to the west and the north to the south, they all started it.

He kills from one end of the world to the next and it is never his fault. Each time, each Abel did it.

That is why the Lord put the mark of the killer on Cain's forehead. All were meant to know what Cain was and to move him along, prevent him from settling down, becoming offended and killing over his long lost honor, and then beginning a war that would lead to his own death and the deaths of others.

Cain was not to be killed. It was no use killing him because all men have a little Cain in them. The curse of Cain infects in many forms. Nazism, Communism and Islam are only a few examples of the disease. Instead Cain was meant to be a living example of the futility of evil. His accursed nature made him into a living symbol of death. Each thing he touched would be cursed by his existence.

When we remember what Cain is, when we know what his signs, the swastika, the sickle and the crescent, represent, then he is no threat to us.

We move him onward, we cast him out and drive him away before he kills us and we kill him and the cycle of bloodshed that he starts everywhere he goes begins again.

It is when we forget that he becomes truly dangerous. When Abel and Cain cannot be told apart, then Cain can pretend that he is the victim and that Abel was the killer. The blood soaks into the earth and he washes his hands of it and pretends that he knows nothing about it. Men begin playing detectives, they search for the root cause of Cain's crimes and try to understand what provoked him this time.

But even when the Lord does not speak to men, the blood can still be heard crying from the earth. A thousand years of blood, the blood of men, women and children from every race and every part of the world.

Cain has made a mountain of corpses. His Caliphate was built on bones. His code is cruelty and his holy book is written in blood on the flayed skins of his murdered victims.

A thousand years of blood calls from the earth. The cries of peoples long vanished from the earth warn us that we will either drive out Cain or his curse will fill our lands with blood and dust and all that we love and all that we have worked for will die at his cursed touch.

Yes, Moses, we’ve all wondered why. Why did our Saviour ask His Father to forgive them for they know not what they do?

Why do you think thiswas, Moses? I do wonder.

Didn't Christ have a specific purpose here on earth? The finalization of the law? Whereby mankind entered into a new era of justification by faith?

Wasn't Christ the antithesis of all that islam  / muslims stand for?

muslims by their own volition are the cursed on this earth, they are the satanic Cains of this world.

A threat and burden to all mankind.

1400 years of blind fanaticism following a deformed psychopath, whipping themselves into a blood crazed euphoria each and every time they get the chance to commit the foulest of atrocities against their fellow man.


pure islam in action 

Good wondering, Moses. Maybe one day we will understand.

Karnal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 5:15pm:

Good wondering, Moses. Maybe one day we will understand.

You are a parody of yourself, PB, and all the other PC useless idiots.

"One day we will understand" = "We have no enemies, only friends whose grievences we haven't yet accommodated".

Soren wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 6:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 5:15pm: Good wondering, Moses. Maybe one day we will understand. You are a parody of yourself, PB, and all the other PC useless idiots. "One day we will understand" = "We have no enemies, only friends whose grievences we haven't yet accommodated".

You wonder too, dear chap. Do you know what you are?

You’re a seeker.

moses wrote on Dec 17^th, 2015 at 2:55pm:

Ever wondered why muslims are able to carry out the most inhumane of atrocities against their fellow man, actually go into a euphoric stupor while perpetrating these depravities against human beings? A group of pagans carrying out their 7th century blood lusts without blinking an eye. Fanaticism at it's evil worst, with talking rocks and trees: The Black Stone called al-Hajar-ul-Aswad Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 961; Ibn Maajah, 2944 The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning the Stone: “By Allaah, Allaah will bring it forth on the Day of Resurrection, and it will have two eyes with which it will see and a tongue with which it will speak, and it will testify in favour of those who touched it in sincerity.” Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Sahih Bukhari 4:56:784 The Prophet used to stand by a tree or a date-palm on Friday. Then an Ansari woman or man said. "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we make a pulpit for you?" He replied, "If you wish." So they made a pulpit for him and when it was Friday, he proceeded towards the pulpit (for delivering the sermon). The date-palm cried like a child! The Prophet descended (the pulpit) and embraced it while it continued moaning like a child being quieted. The Prophet said, "It was crying for (missing) what it used to hear of religious knowledge given near to it. Narrated Abu Huraira Sahih Bukhari 4:54:482: Allah's Apostle said, "The (Hell) Fire complained to its Lord saying, 'O my Lord! My different parts eat up each other.' So, He allowed it to take two breaths, one in the winter and the other in summer, and this is the reason for the severe heat and the bitter cold you find (in weather)." Narrated ‘Abdur-Rahman Sahih Bukhari 5:58:199:  "I asked Masruq, ‘Who informed the Prophet about the Jinns at the night when they heard the Qur'an?’ He said, ‘Your father ‘Abdullah informed me that a tree informed the Prophet about them.’" Sahih Muslim 30:5654: Jabir b. Samura reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: I recognise the stone in Mecca which used to pay me salutations before my advent as a Prophet and I recognise that even now. Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 791: Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: I heard Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' " Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6981: Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

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[quote author=moses link=1449724120/66#66 date=1451192759]Ever wondered why muslims are trapped in their blood lust?

Genesis 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

Genesis 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

muhammad, claiming to be an apostle of allah, was able to take the arabs and instill religious fanaticism into their daily lives turning them into a zombie like death cult, rape, torture and murder the norm against all men muslim or non muslim.

This death cult has been with us now for almost 1400 years.

muhammad"s modus operandi involved an aggressive “bloody-sword” ideology. The sword” became “the key to heaven and hell,” and whoever died in battle received pardon from all sin and entered into the joys of a sensual paradise (allah's brothel in the sky filled with houri's with big breasts).

The blood sword ideology practiced in all muslim nations. Right now today (2015), in countries where islam prevails, persecution against non-muslims is rampant.

muslim terrorist rapists torturers and mass murderers are not an expression of muslim radicalism; it is islam in its purest form.

It's the fruition of“his hand against every man”!

Satanic muslims fulfilling their biblical destiny

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I read the below on the net, seems spot on to me

The Curse of Cain

Posted by Daniel Greenfield Monday June 30  2014

Here

After Cain killed his brother, the Lord told him, "A fugitive and a wanderer shalt thou be in the earth."

But the natural order has been reversed, instead the Abels, if they survive, become homeless wanderers and the Cains build their Caliphates on the tombs of their victims.

"Cursed shall you be from the earth," the Lord said, and so it has been. 

The earth under their feet may be cursed, it yields nothing but sand and thistles, but they are nomads, forgetting agriculture, remembering only their tradecraft of murder. They become worshipers of death dreaming of the green verdant fields of paradise which they can reach only if they kill enough men, women and children.

Leaving devastation behind them, dead lands, lost cultures, widows and orphans, they claw their way up to heaven on a ladder of bones.

Everything around them dies until the only green is on their flags. They are cursed from the earth and they curse the earth. Where they go, the world dies.

It is not murder that makes it impossible for Abel to live with Cain says the State Department, says the European Union and says the New York Times. It is Abel's fields and houses that provoke Cain.

The PLO formed a unity government with Hamas and the loud voice of consensus, the voice of men who imagine that they become god when they speak in a single voice, is that it was the Israeli houses that were to blame. It is not Cain's fault that he kills. It is Abel's fault that he builds.

Of the three kidnapped and murdered boys, two Israeli and one American, Jodi Rudoren of the New York Times wrote, "Palestinians... see the very act of attending (school) yeshiva in a West Bank settlement as provocation."

Abel is forever provoking Cain who rises up and kills him. And if only Abel hadn't had so many sheep, if only he hadn't built so well, if only he hadn't made the desert bloom, if only he hadn't won so many wars and if only G-d didn't appear to favor him.

Cain sows fields of corpses of the innocent for the Lord and he still does not understand why his sacrifice is not accepted and why the earth he dwells on is cursed.

Abel does his best to appease Cain with gifts of earth, but the earth is useless to Cain. What good is cursed earth to cursed men? What can a man plant in the desert? What can he harvest when everything dies at his touch? All he can offer is a harvest of death.

That is what he brings to the faintly remembered Creator he calls Allah. From Iraq to Iran, from Kuwait to Saudi Arabia, from Nigeria to Somalia, from Pakistan to Indonesia, he holds up human heads and cries, "Allahu Akbar."

As if G-d needs such petty proofs of superiority.

Cain cannot be appeased with earth. The earth is his curse. All that lives hates him and he hates all that lives. He tortures animals and raises dead crops. He kills his daughters and sisters, his mother, the source of his life and the source of his future, for the same honor that made Cain the first killer.

There is no use negotiating with Cain. There is no compromise that he will accept. Cain is his own curse. He loves death and that is all he will ever have. His acolytes cry, "We love death, you love life."

Cain was meant to wander the earth. To be a rootless nomad whose curse of death would not collect in any single place. He was not meant to build kingdoms of death. He was not meant to rule over a Caliphate of death and a culture of death.

There is no room for Cain anywhere. Where he remains there will be death and suffering. He will kill because it is all he can do. He has nothing else to offer the world, his own kind or the Creator.

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You wonder why too, Skippy, I can tell. Fairy tales are a way to help us wonder. Can we be a brave, fearless soldier? Can we be a devoted, tireless tailor or shoemaker? Can we be a good, pretty wife? 

We all wonder this, I’m sure.

Fairy tails are just stories which often have parallels in the physical and  psychological reality of the world.

moses wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 2:05pm:

Fairy tails are just stories which often have parallels in the physical and  psychological reality of the world.

Yep, Christianity is a fairytale. Islam is a fairytale. All religions are fairy tales. God is a fairy tale for those too afraid to face the harsh reality of nothing more to look forward to than maggots eating away at their flesh when they die. Better to get cremated. 8-)

skippy. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 3:40pm:

moses wrote on Dec 29th, 2015 at 2:05pm: Fairy tails are just stories which often have parallels in the physical and  psychological reality of the world. Yep, Christianity is a fairytale. Islam is a fairytale. All religions are fairy tales. God is a fairy tale for those too afraid to face the harsh reality of nothing more to look forward to than maggots eating away at their flesh when they die. Better to get cremated. 8-)

You, Sir, are correct.

Ever wondered why?

nope .... can't say that I have.

And yet....  Real people got gunned down in Paris because of that fairy tale.

You have to come up with something better than 'nya, nya nya, fairytales' - if you want to live without submitting to that fairy tale, that is.

You can't go around in Iran or Saudi carrying on about 'it's just a fairy tale', you know.

Soren wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

And yet....  Real people got gunned down in Paris because of that fairy tale. You have to come up with something better than 'nya, nya nya, fairytales' - if you want to live without submitting to that fairy tale, that is. You can't go around in Iran or Saudi carrying on about 'it's just a fairy tale', you know.

true ... they were demented. Just as is everyone else that runs their lives based on fairy tales

Yet the fairy tale of islam has millions of muslims fleeing around the globe like a horde of unhinged infernal ghouls.

All the result of their own free choice to submit to the diabolical fairy stories of a deformed psychopath.

Brain dead zombies, totally trapped by their unholy submission to evil, never daring to question their own stupidity, always blaming everybody else.

Their fiendish mindset is fully endorsed by the self-loathing apologists, who also are trapped by their hatred of the Jews, Christians, Americans, the west etc.

Apologists are never able to to criticize the fairy tale of the cursed muslims, always attempting to equate fairy tales as all being equal, never can they admit that some fairy tales analogously denote good, others declare pure evil as their core narration.

So islamic Cain will run for some time yet plying his evil trade of death and desolation, fully patronized by his apologists.

Ah if only it was all a fairy tale, or a bad dream.

However methinks the fairy tale will have to be played out, right to it's blood soaked end, for good to triumph over evil.

moses wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 2:38pm:

Yet the fairy tale of islam has millions of muslims fleeing around the globe like a horde of unhinged infernal ghouls. All the result of their own free choice to submit to the diabolical fairy stories of a deformed psychopath. Brain dead zombies, totally trapped by their unholy submission to evil, never daring to question their own stupidity, always blaming everybody else. Their fiendish mindset is fully endorsed by the self-loathing apologists, who also are trapped by their hatred of the Jews, Christians, Americans, the west etc. Apologists are never able to to criticize the fairy tale of the cursed muslims, always attempting to equate fairy tales as all being equal, never can they admit that some fairy tales analogously denote good, others declare pure evil as their core narration. So islamic Cain will run for some time yet plying his evil trade of death and desolation, fully patronized by his apologists. Ah if only it was all a fairy tale, or a bad dream. However methinks the fairy tale will have to be played out, right to it's blood soaked end, for good to triumph over evil.

Anyone that believes in any fairy tale God is a nutter. Believing in a Christian God makes you just as big a nutter as the nutters that believe in Islam.
In fact Christian nutters are even worse, most of them had the opportunity of an education that could cure them of their imbecilic ways by educating them In reality but they still believe in the fairies. While many Muslims never had the same opportunity of having an education in reality.
We should just lock the whole lot of the God botherers, bible bashers and Muhammad Maniacs, in one place and let them wipe each other out. Then the rest of the world can get on with living the only life they're ever going to have and we can cease hearing all this bullshit about who's God has the biggest dick. ::) ::)

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skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 4:10pm:

moses wrote on Dec 30th, 2015 at 2:38pm: Yet the fairy tale of islam has millions of muslims fleeing around the globe like a horde of unhinged infernal ghouls. All the result of their own free choice to submit to the diabolical fairy stories of a deformed psychopath. Brain dead zombies, totally trapped by their unholy submission to evil, never daring to question their own stupidity, always blaming everybody else. Their fiendish mindset is fully endorsed by the self-loathing apologists, who also are trapped by their hatred of the Jews, Christians, Americans, the west etc. Apologists are never able to to criticize the fairy tale of the cursed muslims, always attempting to equate fairy tales as all being equal, never can they admit that some fairy tales analogously denote good, others declare pure evil as their core narration. So islamic Cain will run for some time yet plying his evil trade of death and desolation, fully patronized by his apologists. Ah if only it was all a fairy tale, or a bad dream. However methinks the fairy tale will have to be played out, right to it's blood soaked end, for good to triumph over evil. Anyone that believes in any fairy tale God is a nutter. Believing in a Christian God makes you just as big a nutter as the nutters that believe in Islam. In fact Christian nutters are even worse, most of them had the opportunity of an education that could cure them of their imbecilic ways by educating them In reality but they still believe in the fairies. While many Muslims never had the same opportunity of having an education in reality. We should just lock the whole lot of the God botherers, bible bashers and Muhammad Maniacs, in one place and let them wipe each other out. Then the rest of the world can get on with living the only life they're ever going to have and we can cease hearing all this bullshit about who's God has the biggest dick. ::) ::)

Good post.

I thought for a brief moment that last line read "whose God is the biggest dick..." which made me laugh almost as much as when I read it properly...

Don't worry, I won't make a habit of this.

skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 4:10pm:

Anyone that believes in any fairy tale God is a nutter. Believing in a Christian God makes you just as big a nutter as the nutters that believe in Islam. In fact Christian nutters are even worse, most of them had the opportunity of an education that could cure them of their imbecilic ways by educating them In reality but they still believe in the fairies. While many Muslims never had the same opportunity of having an education in reality. We should just lock the whole lot of the God botherers, bible bashers and Muhammad Maniacs, in one place and let them wipe each other out. Then the rest of the world can get on with living the only life they're ever going to have and we can cease hearing all this bullshit about who's God has the biggest dick. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

for a fine example of how great the god botherers are, I thoroughly recommend you watch 'We Were Children' on NITV. Just be prepared to shed some tears.

The apologists grovel and roll over in abject submission to the fairy tale of their choice.

They are livid that the islamic Cain has them totally subdued with his death and destruction.

But they are powerless to do anything.

Their hatred of the Whites, Jews, Christians, America and the west renders them impotent, totally dictates their meekness, they are forced by their own will to accept the curse of Cain as their behavioural standard.

Always blaming others, never having the courage to decry the greatest evil ever to be spawned on this earth islamic satanism.

Desperate to apportion blame to other fairy tales.

moses wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 2:38pm:

Yet the fairy tale of islam has millions of muslims fleeing around the globe like a horde of unhinged infernal ghouls. All the result of their own free choice to submit to the diabolical fairy stories of a deformed psychopath. Brain dead zombies, totally trapped by their unholy submission to evil, never daring to question their own stupidity, always blaming everybody else. Their fiendish mindset is fully endorsed by the self-loathing apologists, who also are trapped by their hatred of the Jews, Christians, Americans, the west etc. Apologists are never able to to criticize the fairy tale of the cursed muslims, always attempting to equate fairy tales as all being equal, never can they admit that some fairy tales analogously denote good, others declare pure evil as their core narration. So islamic Cain will run for some time yet plying his evil trade of death and desolation, fully patronized by his apologists. Ah if only it was all a fairy tale, or a bad dream. However methinks the fairy tale will have to be played out, right to it's blood soaked end, for good to triumph over evil.

Good post moses.


Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


.....those who rush, to submit to evil, and ignorance,         .....so as to be 'accepted'.



John 12:42
Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:
43  For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.





skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 4:10pm:

Anyone that believes in any fairy tale God is a nutter. Believing in a Christian God makes you just as big a nutter as the nutters that believe in Islam. In fact Christian nutters are even worse, most of them had the opportunity of an education that could cure them of their imbecilic ways by educating them In reality but they still believe in the fairies. While many Muslims never had the same opportunity of having an education in reality. We should just lock the whole lot of the God botherers, bible bashers and Muhammad Maniacs, in one place and let them wipe each other out. Then the rest of the world can get on with living the only life they're ever going to have and we can cease hearing all this bullshit about who's God has the biggest dick. ::) ::)

Rubbish post.

......and, my God is bigger than their rubbish god.

:)

Look out for the fire ants boyths. :-*

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Yadda wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

and, my God is bigger than their rubbish god.

it's the same god you dickhead ... you just call him by a different name. :D :D :D

skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 6:27pm:

Look out for the fire ants boyths. :-*

see image.....     post #88




Homosexuality


Matthew 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


Mark 13:14
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

QUESTION;
Where is 'the holy place' ?            [1 Corinthians 3:16-17    1 Corinthians 6:19   !! ]




Luke 16:15
And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.


Daniel 9:26
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27  And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


God's word describes the practice of homosexuality as an abomination [to our creator].

And yet, what do men do,      .....in their wisdom ?

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Google;
homosexual christian clergy

Google;
ordination of LGBT christian clergy

Google;
gay bishops, christian church



Homosexuals are among the most politically 'progressive' group of people we can know.      [....its all about tolerance, you see!]

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1434160480/2#2


And homosexuals are the people at the forefront of those who ridicule and hate God.


Hate God,         ....yet, they [homosexuals] love, and are those who today, seem to want to display their own tolerance,          .....of every vile philosophy of man that is known or invented


Romans 1:28
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29  Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30  Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31  Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

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Watch our for ants in your pants, yadda yudda boom. :-*

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 6:43pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 30th, 2015 at 5:59pm: and, my God is bigger than their rubbish god. it's the same god you dickhead ... you just call him by a different name.

John_Smith,

No he isn't.

You are mistaken.




The 'Allah' deity of 1,400 years ago.

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"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4


"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123




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Yahweh of 3,400 years ago [the Exodus God]

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Exodus 12:49
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.


Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him...


Exodus 23:9
Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger...


Leviticus 19:33
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34  But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself...

n.b.
.....and thou shalt love him as thyself


Leviticus 25:47-49
[these verses clearly speak of [and reveal that it was entirely 'lawful'] for Hebrews [themselves] to become bond servants [slaves], to prosperous strangers living among the Hebrews.]


Deuteronomy 1:16
And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.


Deuteronomy 10:17-19
For the LORD your God... loveth the stranger, ...Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.


Deuteronomy 24:17
Thou shalt not pervert the judgment of the stranger, nor of the fatherless; nor take a widow's raiment to pledge:
18  But thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt, and the LORD thy God redeemed thee thence: therefore I command thee to do this thing.


Deuteronomy 27:19
Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger...



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Allah, and the God of Israel, are not the same god or, person.

Not unless Yahweh, of 3,400 years ago [the Exodus God], has had a personality transplant, into the 'Allah' of 1,400 years ago.

COMPARE THE CHARACTER OF THE 'PERSONS' WHO INSPIRED THE TEXTS ABOVE!



Google;
a different god, allah

Google;
allah another god

God, allah and Jehovah are all based on the same story. Same person, different person doing the telling.

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2015 at 8:18pm:

God, allah and Jehovah are all based on the same story. Same person, different person doing the telling.

Well you believe that,    .....if you want to.



That is what we are all here to do.

To observe, and to make choices, based upon what we [each] observe in the world.

You have.

I have.

John Smith wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 4:52pm:

Ever wondered why? nope .... can't say that I have.

We all wonder why, JS. We're curious. We have a burning thirst for knowledge.

We all come to this board to learn from each other, no?

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 5:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 29th, 2015 at 4:52pm: Ever wondered why? nope .... can't say that I have. We all wonder why, JS. We're curious. We have a burning thirst for knowledge. We all come to this board to learn from each other, no?

ohh god no .... learn from this rabble? You must be kidding?

I'd rather ask the mussel man next door. He's much more moderate than this lot.

John Smith wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 8:05pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:00pm: John Smith wrote on Dec 29th, 2015 at 4:52pm: Ever wondered why? nope .... can't say that I have. We all wonder why, JS. We're curious. We have a burning thirst for knowledge. We all come to this board to learn from each other, no? ohh god no .... learn from this rabble? You must be kidding? I'd rather ask the mussel man next door. He's much more moderate than this lot.

Think you mean Mussulman John. Unless you mean a guy who sells seafood....

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 8:05pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:00pm: John Smith wrote on Dec 29th, 2015 at 4:52pm: Ever wondered why? nope .... can't say that I have. We all wonder why, JS. We're curious. We have a burning thirst for knowledge. We all come to this board to learn from each other, no? ohh god no .... learn from this rabble? You must be kidding? I'd rather ask the mussel man next door. He's much more moderate than this lot. Think you mean Mussulman John. Unless you mean a guy who sells seafood....

Miam miam.

John Smith wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 8:05pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:00pm: John Smith wrote on Dec 29th, 2015 at 4:52pm: Ever wondered why? nope .... can't say that I have. We all wonder why, JS. We're curious. We have a burning thirst for knowledge. We all come to this board to learn from each other, no? ohh god no .... learn from this rabble? You must be kidding? I'd rather ask the mussel man next door. He's much more moderate than this lot.

You have one next door? So does Homo. His is a tree lopper.

Our thirst for knowledge is relentless, you see.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 8:05pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:00pm: John Smith wrote on Dec 29th, 2015 at 4:52pm: Ever wondered why? nope .... can't say that I have. We all wonder why, JS. We're curious. We have a burning thirst for knowledge. We all come to this board to learn from each other, no? ohh god no .... learn from this rabble? You must be kidding? I'd rather ask the mussel man next door. He's much more moderate than this lot. Think you mean Mussulman John. Unless you mean a guy who sells seafood....

;D ;D ;D ;D

last night reply 98 was from Aussie .... now it's K's ... what happened to Aussies post?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 1^st, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 8:05pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:00pm: John Smith wrote on Dec 29th, 2015 at 4:52pm: Ever wondered why? nope .... can't say that I have. We all wonder why, JS. We're curious. We have a burning thirst for knowledge. We all come to this board to learn from each other, no? ohh god no .... learn from this rabble? You must be kidding? I'd rather ask the mussel man next door. He's much more moderate than this lot. Think you mean Mussulman John. Unless you mean a guy who sells seafood....

no, if I wanted to write mussulman I would have.
That's generally how it works you know. :D :D

Not necessarily.
Some people don't know things.

You know we all don't have same levels of education etc.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 9:24am:

Not necessarily. Some people don't know things. You know we all don't have same levels of education etc.

what happened to Aussies reply?