Malcolm Turnbull, Paedophilia & Pornography: 8 Disturbing Connections

1. Supporting Naked Child Photographer, Bill Henson

In May 2008, following complaints from the public, NSW Police raided a so-called “art exhibition” in the Sydney suburb of Paddington, and confiscated about 20 photographs of naked children. The so-called “artist” responsible for the photos is Bill Henson, a well-known photographer. It was later discovered that Henson had travelled to primary schools to hunt down potential “models” for his “art”.

2. Defending Pro-Paedophile Organisations

spycatcher-the-candid-autobiography-of-a-senior-intelligence-officer-peter-wright-viking-0670820555The Spycatcher case was a 1980s legal case in Australia concerning the publication of a book by former MI5 intelligence officer, Peter Wright.

The British Conservative government of Margaret Thatcher argued that the book threatened national security, and shouldn’t be published.

Wright’s publishers hired Turnbull as their lawyer, and in pushing the case for the book’s publication, Turnbull tried to argue that MI5 was illegally surveilling innocent organisations, and suppressing whistle-blowers like Wright. He cited the surveillance of, among others, the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL).

3. Bringing Porno Magazines to Australia

turnbull_playboyIn 1978, acting for his client, Australian Consolidated Press, Turnbull travels to the US to organise a deal to produce an Australian version of the American pornographic magazine, Playboy.

4. Porn & Paedophilia on SBS: Turnbull Did Nothing

sbs-pornAs Communications Minister, Malcolm Turnbull was responsible for the public broadcaster, SBS. Despite this, he did absolutely nothing about the continuous stream of pornographic filth that appears on this taxpayer-funded network.

5. Sydney Homosexual Mardi Gras Attendee
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Turnbull with lesbian ABC presenter Fran Kelly @ the 2015 Sydney Mardi Gras

Turnbull is an attendee at the annual Sydney Mardi Gras, an event that harbors and celebrates some very disturbing groups and individuals.

Peter Tatchell, for instance, is a veteran British/Australian homosexual activist and UK Greens Party member, who told The Guardian newspaper in June, 1997 that:


“The positive nature of some child-adult sexual relationships is not confined to non-Western cultures. Several of my friends – gay and straight, male and female – had sex with adults from the age of 9 to 13

6. Sex Jokes in Front of Children

turnbull_drag-queenIn April of this year, Turnbull attended an obscene homosexual/transvestite party at the Birdsville Hotel in remote western Queensland, where he made filthy jokes alongside a drag queen comedian named ‘Sofia’.

7. Turnbull’s Comrades: Keneally, Kirby & Kinsey
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Tom Keneally

Malcolm Turnbull associates himself with some disturbing people. Author Thomas Keneally, for instance, is a very close associate of Turnbull’s, and a fellow Australian Republican Movement co-founder. Turnbull calls him “beaming and brilliant“, and in 2011 launched one of his books.

In 2006 Keneally was a member of the Advertising Standards Board that approved an obscene “Lolita-style” jeans advertisement for public dissemination, including large billboards. The photographer was Terry Richardson, who has a long history of producing obscenity, and has been accused of sexual assault by multiple women.

Herald Sun columnist Andrew Bolt called the board members “barbarians” and said the approval was “a gift to pedophiles”.

8. Support for Islam

Malcolm Turnbull is infamous for his contributions on Islam. He says Islam is an “ancient religion of great scholarship” and that we should embrace Muslim immigration. This is perhaps unsurprising when you consider some of the issues on which Islam is in agreement with leftist-‘progressives’.

Islam, of course, permits sexual activity between adults and prepubescent children. Indeed the Islamic “prophet” himself, whose life is considered the gold standard for piety, had vaginal intercourse with one of his “wives” when she was only 9 years of age.9

see the complete web site at

stopturnbull. com/ malcolm-turnbull-paedophilia-child-pornography/

Cool story, bro.

You should thank Gillard for NDIS.

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Greggary peccary openly supports the right of adult males to have sexual relations with young children. How is this acceptable?

you can tell a lot from a mans past,

I hope the liberals have got a close eye on this pervert.

BlueBeard wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 8:01pm:

Malcolm Turnbull, Paedophilia & Pornography: 8 Disturbing Connections 1. Supporting Naked Child Photographer, Bill Henson In May 2008, following complaints from the public, NSW Police raided a so-called “art exhibition” in the Sydney suburb of Paddington, and confiscated about 20 photographs of naked children. The so-called “artist” responsible for the photos is Bill Henson, a well-known photographer. It was later discovered that Henson had travelled to primary schools to hunt down potential “models” for his “art”.

And what charges were brought? None. You know why? because taking photos of children naked isn't pornography simply because of that fact.

There is no evidence at all that Bill Henson is in anyway a paedophile or interested in children in a sexual manner.

Kytro wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 12:12pm:

BlueBeard wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:01pm: Malcolm Turnbull, Paedophilia & Pornography: 8 Disturbing Connections 1. Supporting Naked Child Photographer, Bill Henson In May 2008, following complaints from the public, NSW Police raided a so-called “art exhibition” in the Sydney suburb of Paddington, and confiscated about 20 photographs of naked children. The so-called “artist” responsible for the photos is Bill Henson, a well-known photographer. It was later discovered that Henson had travelled to primary schools to hunt down potential “models” for his “art”. And what charges were brought? None. You know why? because taking photos of children naked isn't pornography simply because of that fact. There is no evidence at all that Bill Henson is in anyway a paedophile or interested in children in a sexual manner.

yes well..

maybe that statement says more about you than anything else. sicko

Love the title of this thread it is perfectly suited to treacherous turnbull

BlueBeard wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:15pm:

Kytro wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 12:12pm: BlueBeard wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:01pm: Malcolm Turnbull, Paedophilia & Pornography: 8 Disturbing Connections 1. Supporting Naked Child Photographer, Bill Henson In May 2008, following complaints from the public, NSW Police raided a so-called “art exhibition” in the Sydney suburb of Paddington, and confiscated about 20 photographs of naked children. The so-called “artist” responsible for the photos is Bill Henson, a well-known photographer. It was later discovered that Henson had travelled to primary schools to hunt down potential “models” for his “art”. And what charges were brought? None. You know why? because taking photos of children naked isn't pornography simply because of that fact. There is no evidence at all that Bill Henson is in anyway a paedophile or interested in children in a sexual manner. yes well.. maybe that statement says more about you than anything else. sicko

I'm not the one who thinks naked children are sexual beings.

The OP is a pile of rubbish from someone whose obsessions are deeply suspicious.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:12pm:

The OP is a pile of rubbish from someone whose obsessions are deeply suspicious.

you are either a liar, a pedo supporter or an ignorant twat.

which is it?



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MALCOLM Turnbull has defended beleaguered photographer Bill Henson, saying police should not be "tramping" through art galleries.    But Kevin Rudd is standing by his condemnation of Henson's pictures of naked young teens, which he last week described as “absolutely revolting”. Charges are expected to be laid after police last week seized 20 Henson photographs of a naked girl and boy, believed to be aged 12 and 13, from Sydney's Roslyn Oxley9 gallery.

BlueBeard wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 6:12pm: The OP is a pile of rubbish from someone whose obsessions are deeply suspicious. you are either a liar, a pedo supporter or an ignorant twat. which is it? Quote: MALCOLM Turnbull has defended beleaguered photographer Bill Henson, saying police should not be "tramping" through art galleries.    But Kevin Rudd is standing by his condemnation of Henson's pictures of naked young teens, which he last week described as “absolutely revolting”. Charges are expected to be laid after police last week seized 20 Henson photographs of a naked girl and boy, believed to be aged 12 and 13, from Sydney's Roslyn Oxley9 gallery.

What about it?  You have a problem with people having different opinions that you? Problems with people having the audacity to THINK through issues first before vomiting their mindless reactions in public as you do?

In my experience, people with an obsession like this have a secret weakness for this same kind of thing. You would be well advised not to tell everyone of whats on your computer.

Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter.

ian wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 12:28am:

Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter.

Oh look somebody else who thinks naked children are sexual. Have you ever stopped on consider it might be you who has the problem here.

Kytro wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:43am:

ian wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 12:28am: Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter. Oh look somebody else who thinks naked children are sexual. Have you ever stopped on consider it might be you who has the problem here.

Like most parents, we dont see naked kids as sexual. In fact, usually that is because they are having a nappy changed or having a bath because they are filthy - hardly erotic activities.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:50am:

Kytro wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 7:43am: ian wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 12:28am: Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter. Oh look somebody else who thinks naked children are sexual. Have you ever stopped on consider it might be you who has the problem here. Like most parents, we dont see naked kids as sexual. In fact, usually that is because they are having a nappy changed or having a bath because they are filthy - hardly erotic activities.

what are you talking about you sick freak. it wasn't Ian trawling primary school grounds looking for children to prey on like Henson and his supporters. how stupid could you be?


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“I call on you to take a stand against the sexual exploitation of children and prevent this from going ahead,’’ he states. “I understand that life is complex and there are always competing interests, but the day we think it is acceptable to display images of a naked girl being strangled by a naked boy, or a girl being smeared in menstrual blood, is the day we have well and truly slid into the grey soup of moral relativism.’’

The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography.

Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him.

BlueBeard wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:33am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 7:50am: Kytro wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 7:43am: ian wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 12:28am: Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter. Oh look somebody else who thinks naked children are sexual. Have you ever stopped on consider it might be you who has the problem here. Like most parents, we dont see naked kids as sexual. In fact, usually that is because they are having a nappy changed or having a bath because they are filthy - hardly erotic activities. what are you talking about you sick freak. it wasn't Ian trawling primary school grounds looking for children to prey on like Henson and his supporters. how stupid could you be?

If by trawling you mean there with the schools consent, the school approaching the parents and getting their consent.

This wasn't some dude rolling around in van with a pair of binoculars. Get a grip, and perhaps direct some of that anger at actual peadophiles who abuse kids.

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography. Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him.

That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find. UNfortunately the usual moralist crusaders have turned a fairly simple definition - 'child porn' - into things that are neither pornographic or even naked, do not even have a child in it and are neither a video nor a picture.  The scope of the CP legislation should scare people. Getting registered as a sex offender for having a simpson's character cartoon is a bad thing.

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography. Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him.

oh my god,,

you'd have to be braindead to compare that poor girl being Napalmed to the sick perverted pictures of Henson,

unbelievable  :o

BlueBeard wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 11:48am: The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography. Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him. oh my god,, you'd have to be braindead to compare that poor girl being Napalmed to the sick perverted pictures of Henson, unbelievable  :o

Yeah, Henson was much less explicit and exploitative. The news paper printed a 9yo stark naked girl screaming and showing everything. Try it today and you'd get ten years jail.

Kytro wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:43am:

ian wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 12:28am: Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter. Oh look somebody else who thinks naked children are sexual. Have you ever stopped on consider it might be you who has the problem here.

I dont think naked kids are sexual, my intent is to protect children from those who do. Henson being one of them. Public pictures of naked children play right along with pedophilic fantasies. Want to know what convicted pedophiles say  about naked children?  'they are beautiful", exactly what Henson and his supporters are saying.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:38pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 11:48am: The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography. Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him. That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find. UNfortunately the usual moralist crusaders have turned a fairly simple definition - 'child porn' - into things that are neither pornographic or even naked, do not even have a child in it and are neither a video nor a picture.  The scope of the CP legislation should scare people. Getting registered as a sex offender for having a simpson's character cartoon is a bad thing.

Nonsense, child porn is about context. A picture of your own young child in your photo album is not porn, on some peds computer it is.

ian wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 8:12pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 3:38pm: Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 11:48am: The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography. Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him. That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find. UNfortunately the usual moralist crusaders have turned a fairly simple definition - 'child porn' - into things that are neither pornographic or even naked, do not even have a child in it and are neither a video nor a picture.  The scope of the CP legislation should scare people. Getting registered as a sex offender for having a simpson's character cartoon is a bad thing. Nonsense, child porn is about context. A picture of your own young child in your photo album is not porn, on some peds computer it is.

Try explaining that to the judge.  The rules on CP are very well defined and scarily broad.

ian wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

Kytro wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 7:43am: ian wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 12:28am: Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter. Oh look somebody else who thinks naked children are sexual. Have you ever stopped on consider it might be you who has the problem here. I dont think naked kids are sexual, my intent is to protect children from those who do. Henson being one of them. Public pictures of naked children play right along with pedophilic fantasies. Want to know what convicted pedophiles say  about naked children?  'they are beautiful", exactly what Henson and his supporters are saying.

That's your entire argument? There is absolutely no evidence he finds them sexual. A photograph of a landscape is beautiful, but that does not mean you are having dirt thoughts about it.

How exactly would a child be threatened by being in his art? Please inform me.

Kytro wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 8:01am:

ian wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 8:09pm: Kytro wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 7:43am: ian wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 12:28am: Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter. Oh look somebody else who thinks naked children are sexual. Have you ever stopped on consider it might be you who has the problem here. I dont think naked kids are sexual, my intent is to protect children from those who do. Henson being one of them. Public pictures of naked children play right along with pedophilic fantasies. Want to know what convicted pedophiles say  about naked children?  'they are beautiful", exactly what Henson and his supporters are saying. That's your entire argument? There is absolutely no evidence he finds them sexual. A photograph of a landscape is beautiful, but that does not mean you are having dirt thoughts about it. How exactly would a child be threatened by being in his art? Please inform me.

I didnt 'like' Henson's stuff and thought they were inappropriate.  But I think that about a lot of things that are legal. It is what we call out her on the Right s 'free thought and opinion'.  But I'll be damned if I am going to let it be called child porn just to satisfy the extremists that would ban all photography of any child (actually suggested!), police checks to babysit your grandkids, playgrounds out-of-bounds for ANY adult (actually in place).

And despite all this nonsense, the rate of child abuse has not changed at all.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

Kytro wrote on Dec 9th, 2015 at 8:01am: ian wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 8:09pm: Kytro wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 7:43am: ian wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 12:28am: Henson needs to be locked away and treated as the pedophile he is. Turnbull is off track here and needs to re examine his comments on the matter. Oh look somebody else who thinks naked children are sexual. Have you ever stopped on consider it might be you who has the problem here. I dont think naked kids are sexual, my intent is to protect children from those who do. Henson being one of them. Public pictures of naked children play right along with pedophilic fantasies. Want to know what convicted pedophiles say  about naked children?  'they are beautiful", exactly what Henson and his supporters are saying. That's your entire argument? There is absolutely no evidence he finds them sexual. A photograph of a landscape is beautiful, but that does not mean you are having dirt thoughts about it. How exactly would a child be threatened by being in his art? Please inform me. I didnt 'like' Henson's stuff and thought they were inappropriate.  But I think that about a lot of things that are legal. It is what we call out her on the Right s 'free thought and opinion'.  But I'll be damned if I am going to let it be called child porn just to satisfy the extremists that would ban all photography of any child (actually suggested!), police checks to babysit your grandkids, playgrounds out-of-bounds for ANY adult (actually in place). And despite all this nonsense, the rate of child abuse has not changed at all.

I have not even seen his work, but I'm assuming that little escapade would have ended with charges had there been a chance for successful conviction meaning that it almost certainly wasn't sexual in nature.

It's utterly ridiculous when magazines and the like have people the same age clothed but in provocative poses and that's a-ok.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:38pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 11:48am: The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography. Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him. That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find..

No, dear, pornography is defined by the intent of the pornographer to arouse sexual desire. A news photo has no such intention, naked or otherwise.

Nor does any photo or artwork that shows nudity without this intention.

Melanias purse wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 3:38pm: Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 11:48am: The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography. Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him. That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find.. No, dear, pornography is defined by the intent of the pornographer to arouse sexual desire. A news photo has no such intention, naked or otherwise. Nor does any photo or artwork that shows nudity without this intention.

You really ought to keep up.  That legal defintion has long since been done away with. OTHERS determine if something is pornographic or not.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:24am:

Melanias purse wrote on Dec 9th, 2015 at 10:14am: mariacostel wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 3:38pm: Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 11:48am: The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography. Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him. That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find.. No, dear, pornography is defined by the intent of the pornographer to arouse sexual desire. A news photo has no such intention, naked or otherwise. Nor does any photo or artwork that shows nudity without this intention. You really ought to keep up.  That legal defintion has long since been done away with. OTHERS determine if something is pornographic or not.

It would seem you are correct, we no longer have a legal definition of quite a few things, it's mob rule, who can be most offended & get as many as possible onboard the outrage bus.

Personally I'll have legal definition thanks, even if at times I don't agree.

At least it is consistent.

I mean look how fickle the public is, prime example is LNP supporters here.

6 months ago Turnbull sucked now his a GOD.

Here are some links to understand some of the OP allegations in context....Pretty sure someone has a vendetta against Mr Turnbull???

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/art-owner-turnbull-defends-henson/story-e6frg6nf-1111116466749

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/two-moments-of-legal-genius-which-tell-you-more-about-malcolm-turnbull-than-anything-hes-ever-done-in-politics/news-story/99b294dda251d4c3b7de3a5240c1b42b

http://www.smh.com.au/national/turnbulls-playboy-moment-20090605-by2f.html

http://stopturnbull.com/

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mariacostel wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:24am:

Melanias purse wrote on Dec 9th, 2015 at 10:14am: mariacostel wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 3:38pm: Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 11:48am: The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography. Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him. That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find.. No, dear, pornography is defined by the intent of the pornographer to arouse sexual desire. A news photo has no such intention, naked or otherwise. Nor does any photo or artwork that shows nudity without this intention. You really ought to keep up.  That legal defintion has long since been done away with. OTHERS determine if something is pornographic or not.

Yes, it varies from state to state, but basically covers:

Depictions of:

* Explicit sex
* In a sexual context
* Any abuse / torture

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:33am:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 9th, 2015 at 10:24am: Melanias purse wrote on Dec 9th, 2015 at 10:14am: mariacostel wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 3:38pm: Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 11:48am: The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography. Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him. That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find.. No, dear, pornography is defined by the intent of the pornographer to arouse sexual desire. A news photo has no such intention, naked or otherwise. Nor does any photo or artwork that shows nudity without this intention. You really ought to keep up.  That legal defintion has long since been done away with. OTHERS determine if something is pornographic or not. It would seem you are correct, we no longer have a legal definition of quite a few things, it's mob rule, who can be most offended & get as many as possible onboard the outrage bus. Personally I'll have legal definition thanks, even if at times I don't agree. At least it is consistent. I mean look how fickle the public is, prime example is LNP supporters here. 6 months ago Turnbull sucked now his a GOD.

Legal definitions are fine but the CP one is scary. Finnigan got 15 months jail (suspended) for 45 seconds worth of looking at material he saw on google.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:24am:

Melanias purse wrote on Dec 9th, 2015 at 10:14am: mariacostel wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 3:38pm: Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 11:48am: The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography. Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him. That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find.. No, dear, pornography is defined by the intent of the pornographer to arouse sexual desire. A news photo has no such intention, naked or otherwise. Nor does any photo or artwork that shows nudity without this intention. You really ought to keep up.  That legal defintion has long since been done away with. OTHERS determine if something is pornographic or not.

No, dear, that’s still the definition in NSW. You still live in Sydney, yes?

Feel free to post changes to NSW legislation that update the definition of child pornography though. I’ll be happy to eat my hat in the interest of truth and justice.

ian wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 8:12pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 3:38pm: Kiron22 wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 11:48am: The Bill Henson "controversy" is so embarrassing from a global art standpoint. Lets cover up all the renaissance great painting as well because they have naked children. Ban that picture of the Vietnamese girl fleeing Napalm bombing, she's naked thus pornography. Rudd's moronic bible thumping moralist attitude really is one of the main reasons I dislike him. That photo defined the war. It is everywhere and yet, it is undeniable child porn by any definition you care to find. UNfortunately the usual moralist crusaders have turned a fairly simple definition - 'child porn' - into things that are neither pornographic or even naked, do not even have a child in it and are neither a video nor a picture.  The scope of the CP legislation should scare people. Getting registered as a sex offender for having a simpson's character cartoon is a bad thing. Nonsense, child porn is about context. A picture of your own young child in your photo album is not porn, on some peds computer it is.

Alas, Ian, no, that’s not it either. The images themselves are tested in court, not any fantasies someone might have about them. Pornography is about the intent of the producer.

Artists, film makers, producers of anatomy textbooks, and yes, creators of underwear catalogues, all are still free to produce images of children if their intent is not erotic.

In a legal sense, one’s gaze does not eroticize an image, even though we all know beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are those among us who are aroused by the sight of horses, for example, but a horse-fancier looking at a naked filly does not deem such an image pornographic, no matter how sexy that horse may be.

Sure, in an ethical sense, we might balk at paedophiles wanking over teenybopper mags, but such images are still legal. Susan Sontag had a lot to say about the ethics of pornography and the sexual gaze of the viewer, but the law has to apply to everyone equally.

We still don’t convict people for their desire, no matter how much popular opinion has changed on this issue. The construction of an image is what’s deemed to be erotic in law, not the desire of the viewer.