Sir Bobby your thought on, 'Australia 10 years from now', deserves a thread all of its own.

I acknowledge your original premise.

My idea on Australia 10 years from now:

For a start resources will begin to shrink in the face of overwhelming demand as the world's population spirals out of control.

In America the Fema Concentration Camps will be in operation and a type of genocide aka Hitler style will be in progress. God help you if you are aged, helpless sick or homeless.

In Australia the Muslims will have become a powerful force through sheer weight of numbers thanks to the insanity of people like Malcolm Turnbull , who will have been responsible for huge numbers of Muslim 'refugees???'  (Country Shoppers') coming here.

There will be terrorism, lots of it, as our Country lurches towards civil war.

The only way to avoid this scenario is to block more Muslim migration NOW!!!!!

Alas with our own version of Neville Chamberlain ...Malcolm Turnbull this will not happen.

I will be interested to hear what my fellow posters see as Oz in 2025.

Turnbull will become the longest serving PM
The debt is nearly paid off
Chinese will be Australia's second language
President Trump visited Australia 12 months ago
Muslim Party is now the new Greens and wants Sharia Law
Instead of a Bicycle Lane on our roads - we now have a Muslim lane
Pork industry has found a way to get Halal certification
Climate continues to change daily

red baron wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:07am:

Sir Bobby your thought on, 'Australia 10 years from now', deserves a thread all of its own. I acknowledge your original premise. My idea on Australia 10 years from now: For a start resources will begin to shrink in the face of overwhelming demand as the world's population spirals out of control. In America the Fema Concentration Camps will be in operation and a type of genocide aka Hitler style will be in progress. God help you if you are aged, helpless sick or homeless. In Australia the Muslims will have become a powerful force through sheer weight of numbers thanks to the insanity of people like Malcolm Turnbull , who will have been responsible for huge numbers of Muslim 'refugees???'  (Country Shoppers') coming here. There will be terrorism, lots of it, as our Country lurches towards civil war. The only way to avoid this scenario is to block more Muslim migration NOW!!!!! Alas with our own version of Neville Chamberlain ...Malcolm Turnbull this will not happen. I will be interested to hear what my fellow posters see as Oz in 2025.

Maybe you should write my planned novel 'Austrochine' instead of me doing the hard work.... you've got it all right there.....

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:32am:

red baron wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:07am: Sir Bobby your thought on, 'Australia 10 years from now', deserves a thread all of its own. I acknowledge your original premise. My idea on Australia 10 years from now: For a start resources will begin to shrink in the face of overwhelming demand as the world's population spirals out of control. In America the Fema Concentration Camps will be in operation and a type of genocide aka Hitler style will be in progress. God help you if you are aged, helpless sick or homeless. In Australia the Muslims will have become a powerful force through sheer weight of numbers thanks to the insanity of people like Malcolm Turnbull , who will have been responsible for huge numbers of Muslim 'refugees???'  (Country Shoppers') coming here. There will be terrorism, lots of it, as our Country lurches towards civil war. The only way to avoid this scenario is to block more Muslim migration NOW!!!!! Alas with our own version of Neville Chamberlain ...Malcolm Turnbull this will not happen. I will be interested to hear what my fellow posters see as Oz in 2025. Maybe you should write my planned novel 'Austrochine' instead of me doing the hard work.... you've got it all right there.....

Maybe he will put dialogue in quotes - unlike you.

red baron wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:07am:

Sir Bobby your thought on, 'Australia 10 years from now', deserves a thread all of its own. I acknowledge your original premise. My idea on Australia 10 years from now: For a start resources will begin to shrink in the face of overwhelming demand as the world's population spirals out of control. In America the Fema Concentration Camps will be in operation and a type of genocide aka Hitler style will be in progress. God help you if you are aged, helpless sick or homeless. In Australia the Muslims will have become a powerful force through sheer weight of numbers thanks to the insanity of people like Malcolm Turnbull , who will have been responsible for huge numbers of Muslim 'refugees???'  (Country Shoppers') coming here. There will be terrorism, lots of it, as our Country lurches towards civil war. The only way to avoid this scenario is to block more Muslim migration NOW!!!!! Alas with our own version of Neville Chamberlain ...Malcolm Turnbull this will not happen. I will be interested to hear what my fellow posters see as Oz in 2025.

Ah... the mythical FEMA death camps... The camps with no photos and no evidence and yet something the crazies believe in.

High unemployment, increasing sustenance/ backyard farming and trading/bartering rather than cash or credit card payments.

The public school system and hospitals will be chogging along inefficiently.

Retail shops still boarded up or used for housing.

About $3 trillion national debt.....and climbing.

More young people opting out, similar to the seventies hippy era.

A few more new drugs hit the streets.

More people dying of heat related illnesses.

Politicians still promising to fix it all.

China will be recognised as the new world leader.

America still colonising wherever.

Gold at $10,000 an ounce lol!!!!!

mariacostel wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

Maybe he will put dialogue in quotes - unlike you.

Maybe in ten years time you will be a real whole man or woman....and your wife too.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:10pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:04pm: Maybe he will put dialogue in quotes - unlike you. Maybe in ten years time you will be a real whole man or woman....and your wife too.

I remember you saying you actually bought one of his 'books'. The previews were enough for me. Truly awful.

Maqqa wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:14am:

Turnbull will become the longest serving PM The debt is nearly paid off Chinese will be Australia's second language President Trump visited Australia 12 months ago Muslim Party is now the new Greens and wants Sharia Law Instead of a Bicycle Lane on our roads - we now have a Muslim lane Pork industry has found a way to get Halal certification Climate continues to change daily

The debt will never be paid off in ten years, you are kidding yourself. The debt will grow exponentially year on year.

The righties still fearing the Muzzies.

Weather changes daily.

mariacostel wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:13pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:10pm: mariacostel wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:04pm: Maybe he will put dialogue in quotes - unlike you. Maybe in ten years time you will be a real whole man or woman....and your wife too. I remember you saying you actually bought one of his 'books'. The previews were enough for me. Truly awful.

I thought Grappler's books may have been a bit deep for you maria dear. I can understand your frustration at not getting past the introduction. Perhaps you'd be more suited to the books your husband writes dear......children's tales, are they?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:15pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:14am: Turnbull will become the longest serving PM The debt is nearly paid off Chinese will be Australia's second language President Trump visited Australia 12 months ago Muslim Party is now the new Greens and wants Sharia Law Instead of a Bicycle Lane on our roads - we now have a Muslim lane Pork industry has found a way to get Halal certification Climate continues to change daily The debt will never be paid off in ten years, you are kidding yourself. The debt will grow exponentially year on year. The righties still fearing the Muzzies. Weather changes daily.

True

It took Costello 10 years to pay off the $90B debt Labor left them

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Australia 10 years from now.

Malcolm Turnbull is still PM. However the Liberal Party are now a progressive "small l" liberal party. All the right wing loonies like Abbott and Bernardi have formed a new "rise up Australia" party.

The conservatives are still obsessed with muslims however they have only gone up from 2.2% of the population to 3.0%

The global temperature is now 2 degrees above the pre industrial mean but conservatives are still saying that 8 billion people burning fossil fuels into the atmosphere will have no effect and the warming is purely natural.

Hawthorn have just won their 13th consecutive premiership

Queen Elizabeth passes away but has outlived Charles so William becomes King. Australia still isn't a republic.

Australia becomes the worlds first cashless society. All transactions are now done electronically

The Murdoch media now own 100% of Australian media and give uncritical support to Tony Abbotts rise up Australia party. Despite this Tony Abbott loses his seat at the 2025 election.

maria ahhhh yes.....we have had this conversation before. But I would like you to comment on the fact that Barrack Obama has talked long and loud throughout his administration about his FEMA Camps. P.S. I am going to stay on subject with this but Fema Camps are part of the future terror at least for the U.S.A..

red baron wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:07am:

Sir Bobby your thought on, 'Australia 10 years from now', deserves a thread all of its own. I acknowledge your original premise. My idea on Australia 10 years from now: For a start resources will begin to shrink in the face of overwhelming demand as the world's population spirals out of control. In America the Fema Concentration Camps will be in operation and a type of genocide aka Hitler style will be in progress. God help you if you are aged, helpless sick or homeless. In Australia the Muslims will have become a powerful force through sheer weight of numbers thanks to the insanity of people like Malcolm Turnbull , who will have been responsible for huge numbers of Muslim 'refugees???'  (Country Shoppers') coming here. There will be terrorism, lots of it, as our Country lurches towards civil war. The only way to avoid this scenario is to block more Muslim migration NOW!!!!! Alas with our own version of Neville Chamberlain ...Malcolm Turnbull this will not happen. I will be interested to hear what my fellow posters see as Oz in 2025.

The best way to avoid this scenario is to sober up. Your delusions will disappear as you dry out.

Watch Obama talk about his Fema Camps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkSkQgnEV-Q

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:19pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:13pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:10pm: mariacostel wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:04pm: Maybe he will put dialogue in quotes - unlike you. Maybe in ten years time you will be a real whole man or woman....and your wife too. I remember you saying you actually bought one of his 'books'. The previews were enough for me. Truly awful. I thought Grappler's books may have been a bit deep for you maria dear. I can understand your frustration at not getting past the introduction. Perhaps you'd be more suited to the books your husband writes dear......children's tales, are they?

Have you actually read any real books before? Are you aware of the rules of writing, of grammar and construction?

Apparently not. and that makes two of you.

red baron wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:26pm:

maria ahhhh yes.....we have had this conversation before. But I would like you to comment on the fact that Barrack Obama has talked long and loud throughout his administration about his FEMA Camps. P.S. I am going to stay on subject with this but Fema Camps are part of the future terror at least for the U.S.A..

And I keep asking for proof and you routinely provide none. Don't you worry that the kind of people who believe you are Pansi and Light - two posters with scarcely a brain cell between them?

If you have a case then make it. Don't pull out the same garbage from anti-Obama clowns which says nothing at all and yet you think constitutes proof.

If they exist, find photographs.

red baron wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:35pm:

Watch Obama talk about his Fema Camps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkSkQgnEV-Q

You really do sound silly looking at stuff like this.

I just suffered thru one of these nutjob videos.  The 'proof' of a FEMA camp consists of video of a poorly maintained rather obvious storage facility next to a rail line. No people anywhere. No 'gun towers'. No anything. At least he claimed the barbed wire was pointing inside than then videoing it showing it was actually the other way!

You have to be really quite crazy to think any of these people carry anything like any credibility.

Maqqa wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:24pm:

Turnbull will become the longest serving PM

http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/Hysterical-Laughing-Gif-07.gif

he'll be lucky if he survives the next election.

red baron wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:07am:

Sir Bobby your thought on, 'Australia 10 years from now', deserves a thread all of its own. I acknowledge your original premise. My idea on Australia 10 years from now: For a start resources will begin to shrink in the face of overwhelming demand as the world's population spirals out of control. In America the Fema Concentration Camps will be in operation and a type of genocide aka Hitler style will be in progress. God help you if you are aged, helpless sick or homeless. In Australia the Muslims will have become a powerful force through sheer weight of numbers thanks to the insanity of people like Malcolm Turnbull , who will have been responsible for huge numbers of Muslim 'refugees???'  (Country Shoppers') coming here. There will be terrorism, lots of it, as our Country lurches towards civil war. The only way to avoid this scenario is to block more Muslim migration NOW!!!!! Alas with our own version of Neville Chamberlain ...Malcolm Turnbull this will not happen. I will be interested to hear what my fellow posters see as Oz in 2025.

Thanks Baron,
as I said - we'll be over run with Mosques & Islamic terrorism.

The Mussies will out breed us so in 10 years time there will at least a million of them.

Even the $1 billion  we spend every year to eradicate terrorism won't work.

Hopefully, more old & religious people pass the way to their heaven. Leave ratio of independent smart people grows 10% higher. Lead this country smart enough to become a republic. Everybody becomes a true citizen instead of a peasent. Using their logical sense instead of religous passion to make decisions and take responsibility. Terrorism is caused by unequal economy development problem + stupid education + no social ladder, root cause is not religion.

Dear Maria, have you gone to the U Tube address I supplied on this post, with Obama speaking about his Fema Camps?

Bet you haven't... :D :D :D  Bet you haven't... ;D ;D ;D...Bet you haven't... ;) ;) ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkSkQgnEV-Q

red baron wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:35pm:

Watch Obama talk about his Fema Camps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkSkQgnEV-Q

Not once did he say the word 'FEMA,' or the word 'camp.'  I've seen that video before.  It is a cleverly edited thing showing images to match her dialogue.  But, in any event....FEMA not mentioned at all.

Hi Aussie....and where do you think these people chosen for Obama's "Prolonged Detention' will be housed.

Have you looked at the countless videos I and others have posted on this site showing Fema Camps in full living colour.

They are concentration camps by any other name..including the guard towers, sophisticated security precautions..the razor wire. The compounds without windows (think Auschwitz)

They exist and I have posted numerous photos of them from around the United States because they are there in each and every State of the Union. And...they are geared to take large numbers of people, like thousands.

Why would Obama be spending thousands and thousand of millions on these facilities if he didn't intend  to use them?

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More Fema photos:

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Thousands of coffins ordered by Obama.

The U.S. Armed Forces aren't losing thousands of souls currently..They why did Obama order thousands of coffins?

H'mmmm something he's not sharing with his Country?

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Why do those photos have not attribution to them?

Aussie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:35pm: Watch Obama talk about his Fema Camps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkSkQgnEV-Q Not once did he say the word 'FEMA,' or the word 'camp.'  I've seen that video before.  It is a cleverly edited thing showing images to match her dialogue.  But, in any event....FEMA not mentioned at all.

You said he was talking about FEMA.  He did not, and the only place of detention he named was Gitmo where the US has held nasties without charge or trial for ages.  (And yeas, I've looked at all your videos and photos, and also at the many, many sites which debunk your theory.  I'm really not interested in hyped up garbage.)

beer wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 3:41pm:

Hopefully, more old & religious people pass the way to their heaven. Leave ratio of independent smart people grows 10% higher.

So Old people are not smart people? Or religious people are not smart people?

A new study from Rice University-

'“No one today can deny that there is a popular ‘warfare’ framing between science and religion,” said the study’s principal investigator, Elaine Howard Ecklund, founding director of Rice University’s Religion and Public Life Program and the Herbert S. Autrey Chair in Social Sciences. “This is a war of words fueled by scientists, religious people and those in between.”

The study’s results challenge longstanding assumptions about the science-faith interface. While it is commonly assumed that most scientists are atheists, the global perspective resulting from the study shows that this is simply not the case.

“More than half of scientists in India, Italy, Taiwan and Turkey self-identify as religious,” Ecklund said. “And it’s striking that approximately twice as many ‘convinced atheists’ exist in the general population of Hong Kong, for example, (55 percent) compared with the scientific community in this region (26 percent).” '
http://news.rice.edu/2015/12/03/first-worldwide-survey-of-religion-and-science-no-not-all-scientists-are-atheists/#sthash.iGPILVYC.dpuf

The fact that Fema Camps exist is not in dispute...Go to Google World and look at them for yourself.

Obama has never disputed the fact that Fema Camps exist..It is the sinister hidden agenda for the purpose that they are really there that is in dispute.

You don't build 'emergency relief centres then set them up like Auschwitz

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Obama has never disputed the fact that Fema Camps exist...

I have not heard him dispute the existence of leprechauns either.

Perhaps we can get back to the main game of this thread.

What do you see Australia being like in 2025 Aussie?

red baron wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 5:48pm:

Perhaps we can get back to the main game of this thread. What do you see Australia being like in 2025 Aussie?

I'm no good at reading tea leaves.  One thing is certain.  Unless we start doing something about either making more bitumen or fewer cars on roads,  both sides of every urban street will be where cars are parked.

Australia has totally eradicated islam from its shores.
Mosques have been confiscated and the funds used to pay for damages caused by islam.
Many people are sterilised.

Most thought by the genius blogger 'Sprintcyclist' have been adopted.
It has led to a much better Australia

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:25pm:

Australia has totally eradicated islam from its shores. Mosques have been confiscated and the funds used to pay for damages caused by islam. Many people are sterilised.

Sprint showing his Christianity again :D :D :D

Aussie that's Sydney right now, one big car park. Driving in Sydney is frantic and whatever you do, don't break down.

Aussie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 6:24pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:48pm: Perhaps we can get back to the main game of this thread. What do you see Australia being like in 2025 Aussie? I'm no good at reading tea leaves.  One thing is certain.  Unless we start doing something about either making more bitumen or fewer cars on roads,  both sides of every urban street will be where cars are parked.

"They" could just stop people over 70 driving cars!  Would give you blokes who drive taxis and Uber more custom.  ;)

lee wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

beer wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 3:41pm: Hopefully, more old & religious people pass the way to their heaven. Leave ratio of independent smart people grows 10% higher. So Old people are not smart people? Or religious people are not smart people? A new study from Rice University- '“No one today can deny that there is a popular ‘warfare’ framing between science and religion,” said the study’s principal investigator, Elaine Howard Ecklund, founding director of Rice University’s Religion and Public Life Program and the Herbert S. Autrey Chair in Social Sciences. “This is a war of words fueled by scientists, religious people and those in between.” The study’s results challenge longstanding assumptions about the science-faith interface. While it is commonly assumed that most scientists are atheists, the global perspective resulting from the study shows that this is simply not the case. “More than half of scientists in India, Italy, Taiwan and Turkey self-identify as religious,” Ecklund said. “And it’s striking that approximately twice as many ‘convinced atheists’ exist in the general population of Hong Kong, for example, (55 percent) compared with the scientific community in this region (26 percent).” ' http://news.rice.edu/2015/12/03/first-worldwide-survey-of-religion-and-science-no-not-all-scientists-are-atheists/#sthash.iGPILVYC.dpuf

Your comment is a good example to show the major difference between religious people and independent people.

In this forum, under political view, my argument has nothing to do with science.

The point is whether your mind is free, smart, independent or not. You can see, religious people easily bring up and quote someone's opinion to supoort yours. It is simila to you quote something from Bible, it's your thinking habit. To be contrast, people think more and independently, start from some known poins, find evidences or observe facts, abstract some theories out then summarize some results. The results are very likely to be wrong, but it's your true own opinion, it can later be corrcted through practice, your way of thinking, your common sense get more and more close to truth in this process. You mind is open in this case. You don't need an authority above you to guide.

Having a religion, having a god, having a queen, having a big boss to tell you what you should do, that's the fundamental difference. Can you understand?

Scientists say they believe in something, it is very likely they don't want to be different to other religious people arround them. Saying something doesn't mean they really agree something. Any adult knows this, if you don't know, suggest you watch more TV news, to see the performance of those politicians more, they are very good at this.

Science doesn't refuse existence of supreme ruling power, it is exactly what science is looking for. Can you think and answer what is science can not accept from religious teaching? :D

beer wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 7:59pm:

Your comment is a good example to show the major difference between religious people and independent people.

You claim thoughts that are not your own, they have been formed for you;  how sad.
I am an agnostic as far as religion is concerned, so it is not religious fervour that brought the post to your attention.


beer wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 7:59pm:

Scientists say they believe in something, it is very likely they don't want to be different to other religious people arround them.

So that explains the variation in the beliefs of scientists, even within cultures?

Very delusional.

@lee, I don't want to argue with you, I totally understand why you believe and think in your current way. I do think religion like yours will exist for very verry long time. I also respect religion's ability and value in terms of building a peaceful social order, especially Christianity teachings.

I just want to show you what's the difference in my view. It maybe right, maybe wrong, but definitely different to yours.

The point is I and people like me don't find evidences and support from upper authorities, but from experience and common logical sense. In your view, probably religion and science is in opposite positions, but I suppose you may put them in a greater position on top of normal people. But I tell you in my view, science is only a tool, it's not something mystery but totally understandable. We don't believe in science, there is nothing to believe in. I don't believe in my drilling machine, right? When I find a new model of driller, it drills faster, more stable, more reliable, cheaper, I will use the new model.

So we learn e=mc2, because it is current right model, when we discuss physics questions we can quote and use this, but I don't need to emphasize it  is said by Einstan to make it sounds more correct. If I use it in my discussion, I can put a reference in the page footer to quote Einstan's name, it is to respect his effort and work but not to worship him.

beer wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

@lee, I don't want to argue with you, I totally understand why you believe and think in your current way. I do think religion like yours will exist for very verry long time. I also respect religion's ability and value in terms of building a peaceful social order, especially Christianity teachings.

Please explain what you believe agnostic means?

Me, I am a sceptic. That's what science is all about. Put up a hypothesis, clearly explained, working papers etc, and let others see if they can disprove the hypothesis.  it is not a belief system.

red baron wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:07am:

Sir Bobby your thought on, 'Australia 10 years from now', deserves a thread all of its own. I acknowledge your original premise. My idea on Australia 10 years from now: For a start resources will begin to shrink in the face of overwhelming demand as the world's population spirals out of control. In America the Fema Concentration Camps will be in operation and a type of genocide aka Hitler style will be in progress. God help you if you are aged, helpless sick or homeless. In Australia the Muslims will have become a powerful force through sheer weight of numbers thanks to the insanity of people like Malcolm Turnbull , who will have been responsible for huge numbers of Muslim 'refugees???'  (Country Shoppers') coming here. There will be terrorism, lots of it, as our Country lurches towards civil war. The only way to avoid this scenario is to block more Muslim migration NOW!!!!! Alas with our own version of Neville Chamberlain ...Malcolm Turnbull this will not happen. I will be interested to hear what my fellow posters see as Oz in 2025.

There is no need for any concern because ten years from now Australia will be very prosperous province of China.

No Athos...the Muslims wouldn't stand for it!