Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:11am
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:04am:
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The US Government and its military power won't stand a chance against the citizens and their hand guns.
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Title: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by red baron on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:43am
Another day another shooting outrage in the U.S.
A disability centre in the U.S. city of San Bernadino California is the subject of a gun siege reported to be carried out by 3 persons is currently unfolding. Many wounded persons have been evacuated and there are reports of fatalities. Just another day in 'The Land of the Gun'. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:56am
Shows you what happens with slack gun laws -
300 million guns in the USA including millions of military rifles. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 7:02am
its a bit like watching a tired bad Bruce Willis movie over and over and over...
I have no sympathy I am afraid.. I save mine for the people of Paris.... this is more a normal happening for America.. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 7:03am Bobby. wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:56am:
185000 sold in a month bobs.. :'( |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 7:08am 12 dead, so far. Just another day in gun-mad America. They will never, ever learn. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Ex Dame Pansi on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 7:17am cods wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 7:02am:
Cods, I can't believe you said that. You only have sympathy for the victims of terrorist attacks? A disability Centre, they even had less chance to save themselves than the people of Paris. I feel sorry for the victims of all shootings whether it's done by madmen, terrorists, the military or family and friends. ....you are totally forgiven because you did not think this thing through *Namaste |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Ex Dame Pansi on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 7:19am The good people of America will need their guns for the revolution.....I just wish they would lock them up until then. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 7:28am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 7:17am:
yes I did sadly pansi... but give Obama his due he has tried to change the laws over there... and they wont budge.... not an inch... of course those killed its terrible...but over there its inevitable....and this is no surprise........... and I cannot sympathise with a nation that will not even go along with mental checks on gun ownership.... children are shooting other children playing games with real guns... every day over there.... mass shooting are the only thing we hear about....we dont hear about the every day shootings that collectively leave mass shootings for .. dead... sorry.. but you know what I mean... this will make more people rush out and buy more guns....its madness following madness. I have yet to read where there has been a shoot out at any of these mass killings.... I can only guess the gunmen pick days when most people leave their guns at home.... >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 7:30am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 7:19am:
what the point of having them if they are locked up pansi?????>.......... a gun can only do one thing.. BLOW A HOLE IN SOMETHING....IN AMERICA USUALLY SOMEONE.. makes a mockery of being terrified of terrorists... they are worse than terrorists....they kill each other.. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Ex Dame Pansi on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:04am cods wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 7:30am:
Good point. Ordinary, everyday gun crazy people are worse than terrorists. I'd like to see the stats......terrorist V citizen and how much are they spending on the war on terror. There will come a day when the government will turn on its citizens, Americans know this that's why they have some little thing to fight back with........lock the guns up until that day comes, but keep them well maintained in the meantime. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:11am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:04am:
Yes. The US Government and its military power won't stand a chance against the citizens and their hand guns. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:17am
I think it would be more black v white rather than citizens against govt...if that was ever to be the case...
in the mean time.. this will soon be forgotten like Columbine Sandy Hook... the memory blocks out this type of horror... during the lull they actually believe people are working to make it safer.. ::) ::) ::) ::) have you noticed...they only talk gun control when this happens... when the funerals are over... they dont talk about it any more.. >:( >:( makes sense to some. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Kytro on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:18am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 7:19am:
That would have worked in the past, but no longer. If the military turns against the people, they are screwed - guns or not. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 9:08am Bobby. wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:56am:
California has some of the toughest gun laws in the USA. Military style assault rifles have been banned in California for many years, lots of other restrictions as well. Obama was in Paris saying mass shootings don't happen outside of the USA, he must have forgotten the recent attack in Paris. It's not unprecedented for fundamental muslims to target kids, a couple of hundred were killed in the Beslan massacre. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 9:12am |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 9:52am Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 9:08am:
Ah, good. That should provide some relief for the 14 people who are dead. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mortdooley on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:32pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 9:52am:
Farooq Saeed |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:33pm
Farooq Saeed is the name of one of the suspects.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sun Tzu on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:34pm Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:32pm:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mortdooley on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:36pm
How much do you want to bet he is not a Methodist?
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:37pm Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:33pm:
I don't recognise the name. A friend of yours? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:39pm
Farooq Saeed
Not bloody Muslims again is it? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:40pm Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:36pm:
How will that help the people who are dead? Are we going to place bets on the colour of his eyes too? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:40pm double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:39pm:
I think it's a Maori name, Homo. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:41pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:37pm:
Sounds like one of your friends peccahead |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:42pm double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:39pm:
Don't worry the lefties will try to whitewash any mention of this being another muslim shooting the place up |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:44pm Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:42pm:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:45pm Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:42pm:
Mention whatever you like. It won't make the victims come back to life. I feel for those poor people who have been killed, and also for their grieving families. All you seem to care about is finding an excuse for the murderer. Typical apologist behaviour. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:48pm double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:44pm:
Next he will be saying we cannot talk about the religion that motivates these people, if it was done by a Christian he would have no problem mentioning their religion |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:49pm Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:48pm:
How do you know this was religiously motivated? It almost reads like you want it to be. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:50pm Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:48pm:
Talk about whatever you like. Religion, hair colour, number of legs. Whatever tickles your fancy. It won't make the victims come back to life, though. I feel for those poor people who have been killed, and also for their grieving families. All you seem to care about is finding an excuse for the murderer. Typical behaviour from an apologist. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:53pm double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:44pm:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by gandalf on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:56pm
Baron's about ready to ejaculate after hearing the name of the shooter
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:56pm double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:53pm:
For the retarded lefties religion is only important when it's not the Islamic religion motivating these people. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:58pm
"I think what they are getting at there, following the Paris attacks, is that they do not have any direct suggestion at this stage that this is an Islamist-style terrorist attack," said the BBC's James Cook who is at the scene. "Rather, if it is a terrorist attack it is perhaps some kind if home-grown terrorist attack here in the US."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34987697 |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:58pm polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:56pm:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:59pm polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:56pm:
Baron and double plus have already blown their loads on this one. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:00pm double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:58pm:
Double! You promised me if i posted you that song you would behave! |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:00pm double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:58pm:
Hurling abuse is all they have to counter the truth They have nothing. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by gandalf on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:00pm mothra wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:58pm:
Don't bother mothra, it just gets them even more riled up. Best just to let them have their little ejaculation over this and leave them be. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:01pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:59pm:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:01pm mothra wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:00pm:
It might be time for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUuNDb-nm5M |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:02pm
Dear. God.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:03pm mothra wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:00pm:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sun Tzu on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:48pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:59pm:
They shot each other? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:48pm Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:48pm:
In the mouth. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by The Grappler on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:50pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:48pm:
Oh - fer Chrissake - can we get above this petty homo crap once in a day for just five minutes? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:52pm Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:48pm:
Quote:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:56pm Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:52pm:
You expected compassion from ISIS? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:56pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:50pm:
"homo crap"? :-/ |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:58pm Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:52pm:
No surprise there: ISIS are mongrels. They got this bit wrong, though: "Three lions made us proud. They are still alive,” Man and woman dead, so I've heard. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:20pm mothra wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:56pm:
ISIS didn't have much luck when they tried to shoot up that convention in Texas, they were shot dead before they got to the front door. A different result in a state with the toughest gun laws along with gun free zones. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by gandalf on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:20pm
Yeah such heroics, shooting up unarmed people in a disabled centre.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by The Grappler on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:56pm:
'shot each other in the mouth' - jeez guys. I know they have at you a lot, Greg, but no need to respond in kind. Those kids aren't worth the trouble. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:31pm polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:20pm:
The Beslan massacre saw a few hundred kids killed, 9/11,7/7,Bali,Mumbai,Paris,Boston are ther examples of muslims killing unarmed people. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:37pm Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:31pm:
No evidence this has anything to do with Muslims though yet. Rrrrrright? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:38pm mothra wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:37pm:
Farooq's father said he was a devout muslim |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:41pm Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:38pm:
Not that that means his religion had anything to do with it. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by red baron on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:46pm
Thanks Gregg, that's really classy coming from you, after I defended you on another post where you were complaining about being personally vilified.
Seems like you earned after this effort. ;) |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by The Grappler on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:56pm
As I said - this is what happens to a forum when a troll is allowed to run free for far too long. People start sniping at one another and start seeing ghosts in the dark....
The troll is dead - let us move on.... |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by gandalf on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:57pm Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:38pm:
And isn't it wonderful - the fact that he went postal and went on that great American cultural tradition - a gun rampage, just shows he's assimilated into American culture. Isn't that what you lot have been calling for? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Honky on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:06pm
Looks like the moslems have taken their campaign to ruin Christmas to another level this year.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by issuevoter on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:09pm polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:57pm:
Is that all you've got? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:11pm ... wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:06pm:
Yes. Obviously. A natural conclusion. ::) |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Honky on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:14pm
When you say "it's got nuffin to do wiv Islam" you forfeit the right to roll your eyes.
Unroll them. Now. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by gandalf on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:18pm issuevoter wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:09pm:
damn.. smacked down by yet another issuevoter killer blow. How ever will I recover? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:31pm ... wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:14pm:
No. I never said anything except we know nothing yet and it is presumptuous to assume. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Honky on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:38pm
We?
Nuh uh. you |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:39pm ... wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:38pm:
I know what you know. That is it is not known what the motive was. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Marla on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:44pm
Well, it's official. I no longer feel safe.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by tickleandrose on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:44pm
This is USA's 351st mass shooting this year. 1042th since Sandy hook.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:47pm tickleandrose wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:44pm:
Those are some terrifying numbers. It's completely out of control. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:47pm
If it sounds like a Muslim
If it looks like a Muslim If it walks like a Muslim |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Bojack Horseman on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:55pm
Muslim surname; must be a terrorist plot
Non-muslim surname: must be a lone nut |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Honky on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:58pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 3:55pm:
A team of 3 wearing body armour and with a getaway vehicle waiting can't be Said to be a lone nut |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Phemanderac on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 4:07pm
Terrible, sad and horrendous thing.
That's all. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 4:21pm cods wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 7:03am:
The Americans are gun crazy madmen. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 4:22pm All I'm seeing in here is people (on the right) making excuses for murderers. Stop blaming a religion, and start blaming the killers. Apologists! |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 4:24pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 4:21pm:
No argument from me. And I have a couple of close friends who are American. Completely normal people, in every way ... UNTIL you mention guns. It's a culture that will never change. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 4:44pm
Rack up another terrorist act for the old muzzie.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Marla on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 4:48pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 4:24pm:
Really? I have a couple of close friends who work at the DMV. What is your point? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Phemanderac on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 4:51pm Marla wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 4:48pm:
Should I be jelly? You guys have friends... |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Marla on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 4:53pm
Syed Farook Most likely he was preaching his "religion of peace."
You sure as poo don't see the Amish pulling poo like this. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by red baron on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:33pm
Gregg regarding your disgusting post at 12.59pm aimed at me.
After your pleas for fairness on another post re vilification which you have been the subject of. I would have thought that you would be the last person on earth to post up such filth. In particular after I went in to bat for you regarding your claims of being vilified on this forum' I now request a formal apology on this post from you. I hope you have the guts to man up and do the right thing...regards Red :) |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:35pm Marla wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 4:53pm:
But you see Christians do it. No market cornered in the home of the free Marla. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Marla on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:40pm
Capitalism has.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Aussie on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:44pm red baron wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:33pm:
I can't see one. A post number would be much more accurate than a time...because we probably do not all have a 'Forum' clocks synchronised. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by John Smith on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:52pm
US media have identified one of the suspects as a man named Syed Farook.
Public records show that a man bearing the same name worked as an environmental health specialist for the department that had gathered for the party, and authorities have said they were looking at reports the attack might be linked to a disgruntled employee. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:53pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 4:24pm:
so true.....I mean this isnt even close to being the worst shooting in that country.. its weird the first thing the yanks do it go looking for the reason behind it????????.. usually the perp is dead.....in this case at least one alive...but at the end of the day.. what excuse is there for mass killing of people who are unarmed defenceless. have no idea what these maniacs want from them????? ...they are unprotected as the cops as per usual are always last to arrive...and they are the ones who are at least armed.....and give back what they get... who cares about the reason... .take the b loody guns off the streets.. when is America going to wake up they a re a laughing stock..in a grim eerie way... |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:55pm John Smith wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:52pm:
amazing isnt it... did you read about the body armour they were all wearing.. and the guns they were using.. the SAS would have been proud of it.. how bloody disgruntled would you have to be??????... can we assume it must take a lot of guts to sack someone in America.. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:58pm John Smith wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:52pm:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:02pm cods wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:55pm:
Disgruntled employees don't return with 2 friends wearing body armour to help shoot the place up. The Ft Hood terror attack was officially called Workplace violence. The muslim who beheaded a grandmother and tried to behead another woman before being shot by a boss who got a gun from his car was classed as workplace violence. The Guns they were using are illegal to own in California which has an assault rifle ban for over 20 years. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by red baron on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:03pm
Fair enough Aussie - I refer to Gregg Pec's reply no 36# on this thread.
I am not thin skinned but that post is way, way over the top. Given Pec's plaintiff victim pleas on his post re Vilification of him, I would have thought that would be the last thing he would do, given that I backed him up on his claims of being vilified. A bit bloody rich!:) |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by John Smith on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:05pm cods wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:55pm:
Because they wore body armour? I thought the whole 'shooting people' thing might have been the biggest indicator that they were disgruntled |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by John Smith on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:06pm double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:58pm:
the only apologist here is you, I haven't even commented on it yet apart from putting up a portion of the story you all seem to have missed. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:14pm John Smith wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:05pm:
really????>...did you see the state of the car they were driving???.. there wasnt much left of it so I am sure their body armour was well and truly shredded as well..... what an amazing country apparently nothing is out of bounds to any man on the street,.. do you think all 3 were disgruntled???...... |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:15pm John Smith wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:06pm:
It's impossible reasoning with them John. They've heard 'Muslim' and they're away. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Honky on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:16pm
Just goes to show you should never hire a moslem.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by John Smith on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:17pm cods wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:14pm:
you shoot people and eventually, someone will shoot back. I'm not surprised they and the car were shot up. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by lee on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:22pm
Perhaps they were really gruntled.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 10:08pm
(1) Syed Rizwan FAROOK
(2) Tashfeen MALIK Nice solid good ol' US of A names there |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 10:21pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:59pm:
A few muslims were jailed for making death threats to the South Park creators, the very people who created the pic peccahead tries to slander me with while he defends his favourite religion hollywoodreporter.com/news/south-creators-threats-man-sentenced-prison-341189 |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Aussie on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 10:22pm Maqqa wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 10:08pm:
Good point Maqqa. Can you tell me the names of the current........oh..................for example.........Australian Davis Cup blokes? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 10:24pm Aussie wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 10:22pm:
Lleyton Hewitt replaced Wally Masur And the other 2 greek blokes who have been playing tennis all their lives and played on the international circuit |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Aussie on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 10:31pm red baron wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:03pm:
That would be a reference to Baronvonvort, not you. Read the previous posts. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by philperth2010 on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 10:41pm
I wonder how long it will take David Leyonhjelm to call for more guns in Australia to make everyone safe???
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Aussie on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 10:46pm
It's quite weird for me. The more I hear about these things, the more I want the right to carry a nasty and deadly hand gun to protect myself and others from these insane arseholes.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 11:03pm Aussie wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 10:46pm:
That's not the answer Aussie. Chances are anyone wanting to cause trouble will be packing bigger heat than you. You are safe. As safe as can be. Guns make people unsafe. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 11:26pm mothra wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 11:03pm:
it only takes one bullet (1) Big heat vs no heat (2) Big heat vs small heat Who would prefer option 1?? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by The Grappler on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 11:28pm mothra wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 11:03pm:
Yes - but they don't know I'm packing heat and can use it. I had a licence for a .38 special - I'm happy with the old 9mm Browning. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by red baron on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:18am
The biggest favour John Howard ever did as Prime Minister was to bring in stringent gun laws.
I don't want to hear that bullsh.t line, "guns don't kill, people kill". That is the biggest copout I have ever heard. For most of my working life I have been around guns both in the military and the Police. The less guns out there, the safer you are. You only have to look at the statistics that prove this. Gun deaths here 1.4 per 1 million people, gun deaths U.S.A. 30 per 1 million people a year. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:19am red baron wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:18am:
+1 |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:25am Aussie wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 10:46pm:
Yes Aussie - people of high standing in our community such as lawyers, judges, teachers etc should be able to carry a hand gun with a special license & character test for use if there is a terrorist or other attack. I'd feel a lot safer. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:29am red baron wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:18am:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 4th, 2015 at 7:29am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:29am:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 4th, 2015 at 8:04am double plus good wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 7:29am:
"Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 4th, 2015 at 8:08am
If you question climate science - you are a denier
If you question illegal entrants - you are a racist If you question Islam - you are a Islamaphobic The left do not want you to question anything. Independent thoughts are discouraged |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Gnads on Dec 4th, 2015 at 8:12am Maqqa wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 8:08am:
Absolutely |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 4th, 2015 at 8:19am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 8:04am:
its very noticeable gweg....how you only choose the really extreme posters on here of which every country has its share... to engage with.. many of us do dare to question the behaviour of certain Muslims...and they are not islamophobics.....just having their say??.. how dare you describe every one on here that you disagree with in this derogatory way... just to get your pompous rocks off... I do not hate MUSLIMS>.. I dont even know one....unlike you who seems to have surrounded himself with foreign cultures of all kinds....and is therefore an authority on all of them... >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 4th, 2015 at 8:21am Maqqa wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 8:08am:
as far as I am concerned those people are so ful of themselves... they do not see further than their own prejudices funny if it wasnt so annoying and childish... dunno about you I left all that behind when I left school.. >:( |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Panther on Dec 4th, 2015 at 8:58am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 8:04am:
Source: NYTimes Quote:
Walks like a DUCK...........Quacks like a DUCK.......It's probably a ....................... |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:19am
if the yanks didnt look into any terrorist association links... then we would all say they are MAD..
yet when they do... certain ill informed people call them names.. hohum... so predictable.. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:31am cods wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:19am:
Its called demonising, demagoguery If it quacks like a radical muslim If it sounds like a radical muslim If it walks like a radical muslim Then call it a radical Muslim |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Panther on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:34am cods wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:19am:
Just like when the Left used the word "RACIST", they are now trying to do the same thing with their contrived word "ISLAMOPHOBIA", by calling people "ISLAMOPHOBES", they are desperate to shut off Freedom of Speech.....to silence debate. That dog won't hunt no more! |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:35am Maqqa wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:31am:
sorry macca I refuse to use the term MUSLIM when it comes to ISIS and the like.. they are just plain BAD PEOPLE>..there is no religion involved in that kind of HATRED.... |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:36am cods wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:35am:
Well said, cods. Very well said. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Kytro on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:37am
This is no more or less terrorism than any other mass shooting is, and frankly it does not really matter what the motivations are in terms of effect.
If guns are easier to get, then it stands to reason it's easier to carry out this sort of attack. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:37am cods wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:35am:
But Islamic teaching is the basis of their anarchy They use Sharia Law There's not one Christian/Buddhist/Jew/Shiek amongst them |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Panther on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:39am |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:39am Kytro wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:37am:
But the State in which this happened has strict gun laws |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:40am Maqqa wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:39am:
Not strict enough, though. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:40am Maqqa wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:37am:
You're making excuses for murderers. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:43am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:40am:
The couple has set aside a room to build pipe bombs with thousands of rounds of ammo at the home and in the car Tough gun laws won't change their ideology or access to weapons The child that killed a police work in Australia - gun control in Australia did not prevent him from getting a gun |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by issuevoter on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:45am
Their is an OP-ED in the New York Times, written by Muslim journalist, which states: "Muslims are America's best defense against ISIS."
It is immediate obfuscation in the use a chimera to take the blame; a typical post-atrocity cover for Islam. What he is in fact saying is, "Relax, don't fight us, while we cut your balls off." |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:46am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:40am:
So identifying a common link is now "making excuses"? Using your method - environmentalists can't make a common link between carbon emission and climate change If you do make a link then you are making excuses for climate changing |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by gandalf on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:47am Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:02pm:
let the mistruths fly. 1. there were not 3 gunmen there were 2 (husband wife or partners) 2. There was no body armour worn. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:48am issuevoter wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:45am:
A muslim academic said the radicalised youths who kill are just "kids being kids" nothing to see here move on |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Panther on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:55am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:40am:
It's the same old tune, we need stronger gun laws......when that don't work, we need even stronger gun laws......when that don't work, we need even stronger gun laws......when that don't work, we need even stronger gun laws......when that don't work, we need even stronger gun laws......when that don't work, we need even stronger gun laws......when that don't work, we need even stronger gun laws......when that don't work, we need even stronger gun laws. There's no end in sight......insanity is doing the same thing over & over hoping for a different outcome! Why don't you just punish criminals with laws on the books, & treat the mentally deranged...,.,..nothing will stop gun violence completely, but proper education, adequate punishment, & proactive medical treatment which will slow the rate down considerably without destroying the rights of good, law abiding, people. Isn't it odd, when a terrorist, a criminal, or a crazed gunman shoots & kills people, the first response is to immediately go after the rights of good, law-abiding citizens, the completely innocent overwhelming majority, which never has & never will stop mass murder.......the illegal activity of terrorists, criminals, & the mentally deranged. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:56am
It's called Islamaphobia-phobia
ie a phobia of being Islamaphobia |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:04am cods wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:35am:
Muslims are followers of Islam cods, there's no getting away from it. What you're doing is refusing to believe that muslims could ever be violent. There's little point trying to block it out of your mind when there's muslim violence perpertrated around the world in the name of Islam |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:06am Maqqa wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:43am:
Gun control won't stop all crime, and nobody is suggesting such nonsense. However, less guns on the street is a good thing. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:09am Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:04am:
Nobody is refusing to believe that Muslims can be violent. Many people are making excuses for murderers, though. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:13am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:09am:
They are ALL Muslims who directly use Islam and Islamic Laws to encourage and justify murder |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:18am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:06am:
What does "good thing" look like? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by gandalf on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:27am Maqqa wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:18am:
hmmm I'm guessing less than one mass shooting per day maybe? We’re now averaging more than one mass shooting per day in 2015 |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by innocentbystander. on Dec 4th, 2015 at 12:47pm
These crazy muslims remind me of that old Charles Bronson movie Telefon were the soviets hypnotise a bunch of psychopaths, insert them into American society as sleepers, then for years they just carry on as normal, working, raising a family, doing all the usual normal stuff until one day the soviets make a phone call to them and whisper a secret code word in their ear, then whammo, this wakes them up and they go nuts and embark on a kill crazy rampage.
I think this time though its allah whispering in the psychos ears. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 4th, 2015 at 1:41pm
Pickering takes up the microphone again ...
"The word “radicalised” has been injected into the Islam debate specifically to distance the “good” Muslim from the “bad” one. How often does the apologist for Islam say, “... don’t be so racist, I have lovely Muslim friends”? Yesterday’s slaughter was just another instance of Islamic terrorism that proves it's only safe to be a friend of a Muslim if you too are a Muslim. "One neighbour explains she did not report the activity for fear of being labelled a racist. How well the Left's tags of Islamophobe, racist and bigot are working to increase the terrorists' success rates! "Farook’s links with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are the worst links imaginable and as long as all Security Agencies continue to take the easy option of appeasement as a solution these senseless killings will continue. Governments are now locked into weak electorally palatable responses due to multiplying Muslim numbers. If Islamic terrorism was confined to a small group of 20 the authorities would have wiped them out after the first incident, as they would have the KKK". link |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 4th, 2015 at 1:42pm innocentbystander. wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 12:47pm:
;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by The Grappler on Dec 4th, 2015 at 2:01pm Maqqa wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:48am:
"He's not the Mahdi - he's just a very naughty boy!" |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Phemanderac on Dec 4th, 2015 at 2:40pm
Of course when stronger gun laws do work, then we have all those lip quivering, self obsessed guns for security blanket needing babies whining like stuck pigs for ever and a day....
Give me a break. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by issuevoter on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:15pm
Farook: a good example of a devout Muslim.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/12/03/syed-farook-san-bernardino-devout-muslim-terrorist-was-living-the-american-dream/ |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:25pm Phemanderac wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 2:40pm:
If guns were made illegal in the US, the prison population would increase by 25% and it would cost the government billions to police the black-market, and the Bad Guys would always have access to fire arms no matter what the laws say about it. What we don't hear is how many people in the US save their lives and the lives of their families because they have a gun in the home. 33,000 Americans die by gun-fire each year, and it would be fair to say that a goodly percentage of this was innocent people defending themselves. The rest are criminals shooting criminals - a public service performed by the criminals themselves. These small 'rampage' killings are nothing within the context of a nation of hundreds of millions of people. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by garbonzo on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:35pm
Very obvious those two had a plan. Might have been moved up for some reason, non-halal food at the Christmas party, alcohol being served, or just being Christmas and celebrating the birth of Jesus and so obviously superior to Mohammed in every way - but who knows. My guess is the terrorist Syed decided to advance his plan during the early stage of the party, displeased with something - took off and went home and told the wife it is game on. We'll do it for Islam...and move on to another target afterwards. Might need armed guards for Christmas functions in the western world now....Thanks politicians. We owe you....for your foolish import of many many millions, across the western world, inherently against our way of life. Next election will be a treat. Liberals, Labor, and Greens dead last on our ballots. Australian Liberty Alliance is the only solution to nearly every issue you've so ineptly handled. Anyone who cares about the future should join...now.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by garbonzo on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:43pm
[/quote] If guns were made illegal in the US, the prison population would increase by 25% and it would cost the government billions to police the black-market, and the Bad Guys would always have access to fire arms no matter what the laws say about it.
What we don't hear is how many people in the US save their lives and the lives of their families because they have a gun in the home. 33,000 Americans die by gun-fire each year, and it would be fair to say that a goodly percentage of this was innocent people defending themselves. The rest are criminals shooting criminals - a public service performed by the criminals themselves. These small 'rampage' killings are nothing within the context of a nation of hundreds of millions of people. [/quote] I found the same stat broken down. Of those 33,000...21,000 were suicide. Another 500+ accidental. Not sure how much would be gang violence, latino, black, etc....but it would be thousands as well. So regular law abiding Americans killed by crooks, domestics, mass murder, terrorism etc? I'm guessing 6-7,000 a year at worst. Still way too many.... |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cosanostra on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:19pm garbonzo wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:35pm:
Yes I had these bag of dicks pegged as muslims the moment I heard about it. The turd probably cracked a fat at one of the reindeer in attendance and thought allah would pounce on him. He just happened to be stocking up on ammo at home in his garage and have a willing hijabi wife waiting at home in case he got offended at the work Christmas party by happy people. yah right. ROFL ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Agnes on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:28pm
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:36pm
You read social media from the U.S and there's an air of; "I've never invaded Iraq. I don't persecute Muslims. I'm a law abiding, tax paying gun owner. You, the government have failed to protect us. Why should I give up my gun? So some crazy Muslim can get his 72 virgins by killing me and my family in the local shopping centre? Not without a fight douche-bag".
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cosanostra on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:37pm
The military need to round these feckers up in London, the areas they control are obvious. You can't even walk through them. Round every single one up and lock the feckers up period.
The same with france and every other country. No more dicking around. If moderates want to pretend the Quran doesn't teach violence then no problems. Let them live in peace but the moment they start sheet up lock em up as well. These bag of dicks only understand one thing, force. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:56pm
No comment alevine. You were banging on post after post when the Christian nutter went on a rampage.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:00pm Aussie wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 10:46pm:
Yes Aussie - people of high standing in our community such as lawyers, judges, teachers etc should be able to carry a hand gun with a special license & character test for use if there is a terrorist or other attack. I'd feel a lot safer. Wouldn't kids at school feel safer too? I mean they see terrorist attacks on TV all the time - they know they are defenseless. All school teachers who want to - should be armed & trained to protect our kids. Any comments? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Setanta on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:01pm double plus good wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
And that doesn't sound a little crazy to you, DPG? The US is a democracy, supposedly, so if the govt has done something it is sanctioned by the people, they voted the polies in, to do their bidding. If you live in a country like the western democracies you cannot say "I didn't" as an excuse when your country does something. You can tell your govt "Not in my name!" but you must still accept responsibility for what you(the people(sic)) have voted for. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:04pm Setanta wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:01pm:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by philperth2010 on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:10pm
There is a problem with radical Islam were deluded individuals can justify their actions with ancient text....All religions persecute to some extent based on what they want to achieve in the name of their God....If religion cannot be part of the solution it is part of the problem!!!
:-? :-? :-? Never confuse the faith with the supposedly faithful. Randy K. Milholland, Something Positive Comic, 10-19-06 |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Setanta on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:29pm double plus good wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:04pm:
If that is the case, why vote? Whether we like it or not, I don't, we are responsible for our govts in democracies. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Setanta on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:37pm philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:10pm:
Yes. I was sacked for not being a christian. Legal discrimination. The reason was, "what would you tell a child when they are having problems with their work on a computer? I would pray with them that they overcome and persevere, what would you do?" A: I would show them what they did wrong, show them ways to find the help they need for the task, help them to understand the software and nomenclature, show them how to overcome their problem. Nope, we'd rather someone to pray with them. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cosanostra on Dec 4th, 2015 at 11:08pm philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:10pm:
And never confuse a faith that teaches they can still do this sheet today with others that do not teach that such as christianity and others. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by philperth2010 on Dec 4th, 2015 at 11:08pm Setanta wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 10:37pm:
It sounds like you were in the wrong job anyway....Teaching someone how to be independent goes against the grain of religion!!! :-? :-? :-? Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people. Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007 ;) ;) ;) |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Setanta on Dec 4th, 2015 at 11:35pm philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 11:08pm:
Was a good job really. I don't mind people having beliefs I don't hold. I was there 18 years. I just think discrimination is nasty from wherever it comes. That it is legal, is criminal. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by ian on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:23am
Nothing to do with gun laws. Everything to do with Islamic culture.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by philperth2010 on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:35am cosanostra wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 11:08pm:
Some Christian Churches quote Leviticus 20:13 and have covered up sexual abuse of children....They still do that crap today....Ever heard of the Westboro Baptist Church??? :-? :-? :-? http://www.religioustolerance.org/bibl_hate1.htm http://heavy.com/news/2015/12/westboro-baptist-church-san-bernardino-inland-regional-center-shooting-victims-funerals-picket-protest-stop-twitter-syed-farook-tashfeen-malik/ |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cosanostra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:39am philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:35am:
Anyone can quote Leviticus out of context until the cows come home Christianity still does not teach they can do that to this day. That was quoted from the old testament. Like I said "And never confuse a faith that teaches they can still do this sheet today with others that do not teach that such as Christianity and others." |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cosanostra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:42am philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 11:08pm:
Rational arguments certainly don't work on non religious people either. So we can all drop the silly I know more than you bullsheet. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by philperth2010 on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:01am cosanostra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:42am:
I am still waiting for you to have a rational argument....I am an agnostic which means I respect all people have a right to what ever faith they choose to follow....My problem is with people who refuse to accept failings in their own religion yet have no problem finding fault in others....I have never claimed to know more than anybody but if that is what you believe who am I to argue!!! :) :) :) With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. Steven Weinberg (1933 - ), quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999 |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cosanostra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:21am philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:01am:
No you're not but that's besides the point. philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:01am:
I don't care what you think you are. Yet here you disrespect them by quoting "Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people. " As if you have some higher intellect by quoting it. Personally to me it shows you have less and are closed minded. philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:01am:
My problem is with people who see failings in other peoples religions yet have no idea about those religions in question.... Much like you quoting Leviticus out of context . The only reason you even state that is your problem above is to oppose the general consensus there is no other reason. philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:01am:
An ignorant liar philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:01am:
Incorrect. evil ˈiːv(ə)l,-vɪl/Submit adjective 1. profoundly immoral and wicked. "his evil deeds" synonyms: wicked, bad, wrong, morally wrong, wrongful, immoral, sinful, ungodly, unholy, foul, vile, base, ignoble, dishonourable, corrupt, iniquitous, depraved, degenerate, villainous, nefarious, sinister, vicious, malicious, malevolent, demonic, devilish, diabolic, diabolical, fiendish, dark, black-hearted; More An agnostic is one who believes it impossible to know anything about God or about the creation of the universe and refrains from commitment to any religious doctrine. An atheist is one who denies the existence of a deity or of divine beings. Just so you know what one is. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by miketrees on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:28am
I think the US is a lost cause in the case of gun control.
Where would any politician start? What would gun control look like in the US? The "War on guns" is probably never going to start. Perhaps the only way to stop mass shootings is to arm everyone. That is so absurd I cant believe I just wrote that |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:03am cosanostra wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:37pm:
Correct. But jailing them only keeps them in the system like fleas on a dog. With their illegal mobile phones they organise drug deals, terrorist hits, 'radicalisation' programs, people smuggling, and the rest. Deportation is the only permanent solution ... with every last one of their extended families, of course. 'Root-and-branch'. It's like doing an 'uninstall' on the computer where you use an application that seeks out and uninstalls every little trace of the offending party that's hidden in various places throughout your system. Total elimination. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:06am philperth2010 wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 11:08pm:
;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:34am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:03am:
That sounds like a final solution to the Muslim question. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Ex Dame Pansi on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:40am miketrees wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:28am:
I get your drift. The USA, it is what it is and can only get worse. So be it. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Ex Dame Pansi on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:45am Cosanostra and Garbonzo.....it looks like maria and longies rels have turned up for Christmas. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:58am
We constantly see one party send off troops on some bloody, misguided adventure. The other party howls in protest. When the other party eventually gets into power, does it bring the troops home? Nooooo! Setanta, do you really hold the majority of voters responsible for this?
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 7:08am Bobby. wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:34am:
Korrect. The Final Solution to the Jewish Problem began as a compulsory deportation to Israel organised by Adolf Eichmann. Many hundreds were shipped out of Germany for this destination. But then Herman Goering (not Goebbels, Hitler, or Himmler) - decided at a meeting that instead of deportation - extermination was the best option. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by bogarde73 on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:34am
But don't forget such worthies as the UK & the US rejected the Jews Hitler wanted to deport, knowing full well what their fate would be.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:38am bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:34am:
The Muslims are now more hated than the Jews ever were - I know what Hitler would have done - buy hey - we're the good guys. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:39am bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:34am:
I dont recall that boges... got the link???....in fact I dont recall Hitler trying to deport them... he wanted them GONE> |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:39am
read "exterminated"
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by philperth2010 on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:43am ian wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:23am:
Errr....Accept all those mass shootings that are not committed by Muslims....I guess we should just ignore them so we can keep up the outrage??? :-? :-? :-? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:46am cods wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:39am:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by bogarde73 on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:50am
The link is in the histories cods. The Germans from 1935 to1938 were happy and willing to deport Jews, except those they saw as communists or dangerous intellectuals. But there were no takers. The British, Australians & Americans were to a greater or less degree antisemitic. And the Brits were fearful of trouble in Palestine if more were sent there.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:54am bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:34am:
I have yet to read the book on that to find out what was the real reason the British refused them entry. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by aussie100percent on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:57am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:54am:
THE REAL reason boags has it right |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:00am bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:34am:
To be fair - that's not entirely true. At that time there was no hint of extermination camps - it was all about moving the Jews and other 'undesirables' eastwards to Labour Camps in forested areas. Not even the Jews on these ships had a clue of what was eventually decided to be their fate. If they had known, they would have beached the ships somewhere along the South America coast and taken refuge there. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by philperth2010 on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:05am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:00am:
Sounds like you need to brush up on your history Herb!!! ::) ::) ::) http://www.history.com/topics/kristallnacht http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27373131 |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:05am Bobby. wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:38am:
Korrect, Bobby. We mustn't let our imaginations wander with ideas that might frighten the horses. 8-) |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:14am
The story so far
[list bull-redarrow] Unfortunately there were no suicide vest so I can't call this radical muslim attack |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:18am
Interesting that some of our less than enthusiastic about refugee members are waxing nostalgic about the Voyage of the Damned.
It was precisely this incident and others like it that saw the drawing up of the UNHRC Refugee Convention. Mistakes of the past anybody? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:19am bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 9:50am:
I have never heard of it sorry.....seems odd that they took them in when war began... |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:20am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:05am:
Then - what is the final solution to the Muslim question? Ship them all to Iran where they can be with their buddies? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:24am mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:18am:
when the UN convention was initiated.....we didnt have terrorism to worry about.. did we... war was over JUST...and everyone was sickened by it.... and yes GERMAN concentration camps were very much on the agenda....and a lot of displaced persons.... you would have had to been there to appreciate what the climate was like....I would imagine... so to compare those times with today is a bit of a stretch to my way of thinking.. the world has become more violent more sophisticated even the poorest have weapons and power..... refugees are now a BUSINESS...people smugglers are conning people left right and centre.. and the UN is condoning them... you really think by us living in the past... will stop the bad guys winning this war????>.. REALLY. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:26am philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:05am:
I I highly recommend to you the book 'The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich' by William L. Shirer. I read it shortly after it came out. What Shirer does is carefully describe the difference between a Concentration Camp and an Extermination Camp so that the average reader will be disabused of the idea that the two are one and the same. They are not. But it's true that after the Germans decided on a program of extermination, they continued to use the term 'Concentration' in all their paperwork so as to hide what was really going on in these camps. Dachau was a genuine 'Concentration Camp' which saw a lot of the inmates released back into the community after they'd served some time there before the war. It was only later that it became an extermination camp. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:26am Bobby. wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:20am:
greater UNDERSTANDING bobs from all sides.... if we stop saying ISIS and their likes are MUSLIMS.. it would be a start.. they a re twisted and fanatical... they have nothing to do with religion. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:28am Bobby. wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:20am:
The solution is make them stay where they are but also for us to live with a clear conscience i.e. their safety To make them stay there you have to remove the danger Iraq and Lybia has proven that radical Islamic terrorism is like a weed and you cannot physically destroy it 100%. So you need a gardener around to maintain peace and order This is where the political solution comes in. You have to negotiate with a group of rebels that can work together who will act as the gardener We also know that the rebels are from different areas and even they don't get along e.g. Iraq Turnbull and others are working on this before the UN send in the ground troops |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:29am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:26am:
what were they in concentration camps for herb..just for being a JEW?......so that makes it k I guess. >:( >:( sorry mate not in my book....they were all illegal and in most cases death camps.. a terrible stain on human history... |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:29am cods wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:26am:
But we need a final solution otherwise Australia will be turned into Muslim cesspool with terrorist attacks every 2nd day. It will be terrible to live here 10 years from now. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:30am cods wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:24am:
I disagree Cods. The people fleeing are fleeing terrorism. Terrorists don't get on leaky boats so they can spend years in detention. These are people fleeing persecution and violence. People smuggling has always been a business. Nothing new there. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:34am mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:18am:
The UNHRC was drawn up with it mind to specifically address the problem of how to deal with the millions of displaced people who roamed Europe at the end of WWII. None of the signatories had it in mind that it would one day be used by Leftwing self-haters as an instrument for seeding the Western nations with millions of incompatible Muslims. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by philperth2010 on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:37am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:26am:
Take a look at the links I posted Herb....The Jews where being persecuted in Nazi Germany before the war....The fact that the extermination camps came later is ignoring the reality faced by Jews in Nazi Germany....Do you seriously believe that being shipped to a concentration camp was acceptable and the Jews should have just sucked it up....Is being locked up without committing a crime is something you believe was acceptable??? :-? :-? :-? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:44am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:34am:
The signatories had in mind that desperate and displaced people were cared for by the global community. Precisely what is needed right now. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by aussie100percent on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:48am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:34am:
You people are way way of topic..This thread is about those murdering scum mozzies in San Bernadino >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:50am Bobby. wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:20am:
Deportation is the answer, Bobby. There are 47 Muslim-majority countries to disperse them amongst. That's a veritable embarrassment of choices for the deportees to nominate for where they would like to be jetted to. Instead of insane amounts like $14.7 million dollars going towards schemes to save those at risk of suicide - this sort of money could finance the transfer of our Muslim trouble-makers to places out of sight and out of mind somewhere in the Middle East and elsewhere. The millions in government subsidies that go to our Islamic schools could be redirected to finance the Deportation Scheme. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:56am mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:44am:
None of the people signing those papers would have imagined in their wildest dreams that what they were signing was a Suicide Note that would one day allow Muslims in their millions to invade the West without a shot being fired. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:59am
Stop importing Muslims. Send non-citizens home. Start with the basics.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:04am Bobby. wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:29am:
What do I really and sincerely believe will be the Final Solution to the Muslim Question in Australia? Partition. They'll be given their own little theocratic state within the landmass of this continent. A hundred years from now. Two hundred years from now ... whatever. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:06am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:04am:
Why? When the vast majority assimilate just fine? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:09am mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:06am:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:10am double plus good wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:09am:
But those not assimilating are not coming here by boat. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:13am mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:10am:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by bogarde73 on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:15am Maqqa wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:14am:
We know who they were and what they were Macca. What to do about it will eventually come down to how fearful the populations of the west become and how their govts will react to that. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:19am mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:06am:
Nonsense. Any Muslim parading around in a hijab or a big black beard in a Western society is demonstrating a defiant and arrogant attitude towards the cultural secular norm of the indigenous locals. It has its parallel in refusing to stand up in court 'for religious reasons'. It's all defiant behaviour that has a middle finger held up to the host nation that is stupid enough to accept these Time Traveler migrants from the Middle Ages. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:21am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:19am:
I suggest you know about as much about Muslims as you do about women Herbie. Most Muslims assimilate just fine. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:24am mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:21am:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:27am double plus good wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:24am:
I'm sure you'd find many Muslims prepared to bend that rule Double. Most of them are very moderate. But why would you want to marry somebody whose ideology differs so very much from your own? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:34am mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:27am:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:35am double plus good wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:34am:
There are significant idealogical differences between you and a Muslim Double. And i said moderate Muslims. Most in Australia are moderate Muslims. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:39am mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:35am:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:39am mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:21am:
No they don't. 'Integrate'? - yes. 'Assimilate'? - no. Born-in-Australia Muslims are playing Arabic, Turkish or Pakistani music in their cars as they drive along our roads. I hear it all the time. SBS TV and Radio services depend for their very existence on the fact that Muslims and others haven't assimilated into the Australian mainstream, but are cultural ghettoists who are determined to live as close as possible to the life their immigrant parents came from. The Auburn City Council Deputy Mayor is a case in point. Well integrated - but otherwise wants nothing to do with 'assimilation'. His wedding was a showcase of defiance against the local Australian culture. Which brings us to 'multiculturalism', dear Mothra ... What do you suppose that means? It's our government telling our migrant community to by all means resist assimilation into the Australia Way, and we'll be satisfied if they only go so far as to integrate. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:42am mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:27am:
... dear O dear O dear ... and Christ wept. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:44am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:42am:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by red baron on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:49am
They will never integrate.
They will grow prosperous due to the enormous generosity this Country offers. They will grow strong and when they are strong enough, they will challenge us right to our face. That's when the freaking bomb will go off on this ideology, that Threatens to tear our Country apart. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Black Orchid on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:51am |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:57am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:39am:
Assimilate into a multi-cultural society Herbie. Integrate and assimilate. You're not assimilating particularly well though are you? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:22pm
The lawyer for the male terrorist said the following
[list bull-redarrow] This is on the back of the fact that the workers gave them a baby shower several months ago Political correctness gone wild |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by innocentbystander. on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:26pm
This whole sorry San Bernadino massacre affair has sent my lefty artist friend completely over the edge, he hates white christian Americans more than ever now and is telling the whole world via facebook :(
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:35pm innocentbystander. wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:26pm:
but 70% of Americans are Christians |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:56pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:57am:
;D ;D ;D Best laugh I've had today. mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:57am:
I actually think I'm in the majority, Mothra. The Silent Majority. Did you hear Abbott's speech to British politicians at The Margaret Thatcher Lecture? Here's a part of it. I believe the majority of unhyphenated Australians agree with Abbott on the issue of Western nations being at risk of falling foul of too much Islamic immigration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K30w_o52fEI |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:05pm Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 12:56pm:
I know you like a good panic Herbie, especially when you can be outraged at the same time but you're being silly. You are talking about 2% of the population. Most of whom have assimilated and integrated nicely. Sharia Law is not on the horizon. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:14pm
These people were heard yelling "Allah Snack bar"
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:15pm red baron wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:49am:
The people who will rule NSW without actually being in government will be the Indian and Chinese community. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by aquascoot on Dec 5th, 2015 at 3:23pm Black Orchid wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:51am: yes black orchid. its fairly damming . people like Mothra are really living in the world of "the emperor has no clothes". they deny the bleeding obvious. i think their fearful little minds wont let them face the truth. cowardly in a way, too scared to confront a bully, they seek to appease a bully. they would have done well dealing with hitler in 1938... peace in our time, hay Mothra :( :( |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by aquascoot on Dec 5th, 2015 at 3:27pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
sure, it will in all likelihood never happen to herb, but lefties feel all this "compassion" for people in boats yet think the shooting up of disability centre full of fine citizens is , dare i say, to be treated flippantly, almost as if they cant feel any empathy with the panic these workers must have felt, but they can feel empathy with the panic of someone on a sinking boat. theres some strange psychopathology going on amongst people of this ilk. People who think like you mothra. its inconsistent at best, its evil at worst |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 3:34pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
its not the ones that assimilate mothra if you think the ones that dont are nothing to worry about.. good luck with that.. just take a look at what happening in Libya... Quote:
its like a creeping disease... one we cant actually see until it causes damage........ sorry mothra with your bizarre way of dealing with this... we are all SITTING DUCKS>> |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 3:37pm aquascoot wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 3:27pm:
thats a bit strong aqua I am sure mothra thinks that thats being very Christian and if we all took a leaf out of her book.. the world would change tomorrow... I wonder if anyone has applied that psychology to serial murderers?????.... ::) ::) ::) if i am nice to you will you stop doing what you are doing????>.. ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by aquascoot on Dec 5th, 2015 at 4:00pm cods wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 3:37pm:
generally speaking, being supplicating to a bully only encourages them. :( :( |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 4:06pm aquascoot wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 3:27pm:
Oh get your hand off it Scoot. Where have i done anything but condemn the shoot-up? I feel empathy for all victims of crime aand boat drownings too. I'm just not forming a lynching party. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 4:08pm cods wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 3:37pm:
Could you be more patronising? Or more wrong as to regarding how i think? If the best you can do is put words in my mouth to argue a very simple premise, then you might want to go back to the drawing board. The queue forms to the right. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by aquascoot on Dec 5th, 2015 at 4:57pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 4:06pm:
Sooooo some truely top class americans are nice enough to throw a baby shower for young mohammed and get butchered as a way of showing thanks.... exactly WHAT would it take for you to form a "lynching party" :-? :-? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:28pm aquascoot wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 4:57pm:
I like to think that there is nothing that would make me form a lynching party. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:31pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:28pm:
Let's ask the families of the 14 who died if they'd like to form a lynching party |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:34pm Maqqa wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:31pm:
Are you advocating for vigilante "justice" Maqqa? You really think we can behave like that? Precisely who does that make us better than? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:34pm
Would you patronise a Lebanese Muslim restaurant where only 2% of the meals were lethally poisonous while 98% of the dishes were okay?
Would you take your family there on a regular basis and assure them ... "Hey! Relax! Don't be so racist! Don't be so xenophobic and bigotted! There's only a 2% chance we won't make it home after this meal! Sheesh - some people! Scaredy-cats! nya nya nya!" Would you, Mothra? ANSWER THE QUESTION! 8-) |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:35pm Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:34pm:
What a ridiculous analogy. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:43pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:34pm:
I am saying lets ask the families of those who die rather than proceed based on philosophical idealism of a perfect world France bombed Raqqa as retaliation without the approval from the UN - that's vigilante |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:50pm Maqqa wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:43pm:
You are suggesting that the best course of action be determined by people who are out of their minds with grief? Can you not imagine the consequences of such a thing? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by aquascoot on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:52pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:50pm:
justice ? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:56pm aquascoot wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:52pm:
No. That's not justice. It is revenge. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:59pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 4:06pm:
neither is anyone else... just how would you deal with this epidemic in a way that would stop it??>.. its all very well being touchy feely...but we need ACTIONS not words... sometimes.. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:04pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 4:08pm:
well there you go... jumping to conclusions AGAIN.. they were not meant for YOUR mouth.. just all those do gooders out there who think turning a blind eye will make it all go away. and sadly thats how you come across.. on here... and your sarcasm isnt that great either.. ::) ::) but I try to ignore it.. you dont like anyone telling you how you are seen to be on here..do you???... |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:09pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:56pm:
so if one of your children were murdered in cold blood you would turn the other cheek?????.. no matter which course is taken it will always have a touch of revenge in it.... call it satisfaction call it grief....but at the end of the day.. I am sure you would want something???.. for the death of your loved ones. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by aquascoot on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:10pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:56pm:
i have always found revenge to be the purest of motives |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:14pm cods wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:04pm:
So which is it Cods? Not meant for my "mouth" (although they were addressed to me) but for all the "do-gooders" which is how i come across? Didn't really think that through did you? And what do you mean i don't like people telling me how i am seen on here? I cop it daily. Fortunately, the posters i respect and admire tend to be in agreement with me, so i persevere. You're a funny old stick Cods. You're the first one to cry out when people get personal but you can never seem to help getting personal yourself. How i'm seen on here. Jesus christ. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:15pm cods wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:09pm:
I would want the perpetrator locked up in jail. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:16pm aquascoot wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:10pm:
Then, as i have always suspected, you are a very base creature. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:20pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:15pm:
good.. how would you go about catching them?????? and then keeping them safe in jail.. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:32pm cods wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:20pm:
The police would catch them. Hopefully. The prisons and the courts are responsible for their incarceration. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:33pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:14pm:
there you go again... my first post was everyone the likes of greg who says no no no every Muslim in AUstralia is nice and wouldnt harm a fly.......how he knows that I wouldnt know.. you also say.. turn the other cheek...thats what I meant the second post.. you want to take everything i say personally not much I can do about that... but if you take a look just about everyone who disagrees with you.. gets a serve....not an argument but a crack about them and the way they view life.. you last sentence is all about ME....being personal.. but of course thats not YOU being personal is it?? why does Jesus get a mention??.... when someone claims JUSTICE you call it REVENGE.. I get called a funny old stick.. I am sure that means OLD means MIND GONE>. have I got news for you? anyway I wont come back you obviously dont wish to discuss the topic. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:34pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:32pm:
why didnt I THINK OF THAT! so simple. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:37pm cods wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:34pm:
Too busy being a smart arse probably. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by aquascoot on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:44pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:16pm:
base as in "back to basics" one decides what behaviours are acceptable. if a behaviour outside of what is acceptable occurs, one corrects the bad behaviour immediately. in fact , the longer one takes to correct a bad behviour and the less consistent one is in correcting a bad behaviour , the worse for both parties. america has been suffering for its inaction since 9/11. the neville chamberlain defence. next week, obama will give czechoslovakia to ISIS ;) |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:48pm aquascoot wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:44pm:
Base adjective, baser, basest. 1. morally low; without estimable personal qualities; dishonorable; meanspirited; selfish; cowardly. 2. of little or no value; worthless: hastily composed of base materials. 3. debased or counterfeit:an attempt to eliminate the base coinage. 4. characteristic of or befitting an inferior person or thing. 5. of illegitimate birth. 6. not classical or refined:base language. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by John Smith on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:51pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:48pm:
works just as well if you replace the word 'base' with scoots name |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by aquascoot on Dec 5th, 2015 at 7:18pm John Smith wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:51pm:
Mans mind, stretched to a new idea, never goes back to its original dimension. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:35pm
Codsy, I remember you got very upset about me making the point about how you would react if it was one of your kids that was murdered by the Charlie Hebdo killers. It's fair to say we've moved past the point of 'prodding the bees hive'. Don't you think?
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:44pm cods wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:26am:
But we need a final solution otherwise Australia will be turned into Muslim cesspool with terrorist attacks every 2nd day. It will be terrible to live here 10 years from now. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:47pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:44pm:
No it won't Bobby. We are talking about 2% of the population. That figure is not likely to rise very sharply in 10 years. Everything will be fine. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:53pm double plus good wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:35pm:
can you explain... the connection between the Hebdo massacre and the San Bernadino one...???? CHarlie Hebdo was warned... what would happen.. was the Christmas Party warned...dpg???>. I havent read that bit.. I find your analogy appalling to be honest.. did CHarlie Hebdo sack someone and pizzz them off I dont think so I think it was more like pulling the tail on a very angry tiger... or shall we say... angry beehive... >:( >:(.. the good souls at the Christmas Party as far as I know.. did not a thing..to deserve being gunned down... perhaps you can explain it better.. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:55pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:37pm:
goodness me... is that whats called being personal???... cant be.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D not from she who must not be named.. couldnt be!!! |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:58pm cods wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:55pm:
She who must not be named? :o And Cods, you were being a smart arse. Denying it? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:01pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:47pm:
That's what they said in Israel but the Muslims won the war in the bedrooms. They out breed us 10 to 1. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by mothra on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:04pm
They never said that in Israel.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:06pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 10:44pm:
If we still have people like Soren, Herbie, double plus good, Maqqa, et al. then yes, it will be terrible. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:07pm mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:04pm:
You're right - they always had a rational fear of Muslims. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Marla on Dec 6th, 2015 at 5:26am Maqqa wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:43pm:
WTF??? France (or any other sovereign nation) doesn't need UN approval to retaliate in an act of war - only from its own Parliament. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 6th, 2015 at 7:12am mothra wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 5:56pm:
What is judicial punishment if not revenge on behalf of the victims? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 6th, 2015 at 7:32am Marla wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 5:26am:
Exactly. As the United Nations operates on International Socialist principles and ideology, it's therefore not politically impartial with its decisions, and so it should be ignored by any country that values its own sovereign right to make decisions for itself. And what's wrong with vigilante action against an enemy that's killing your people on the streets of their own generational homeland? Good to see you back here again, Marla (even if you are a little skinny and need fattening up for your wedding night). |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by red baron on Dec 6th, 2015 at 7:56am
The United Nations - wants to run the World but never wants to get its hands dirty.
The record of the United Nations in War Zones is a litany of cowardice. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:02am red baron wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 7:56am:
not wrong... I dont think they want to RUN anything to be honest... its must be one long amazing LUNCH after another.... have you seen the buildings they work out of around the world.... ::) ::) ::) that alone is a disgrace....when you think of all the countries still waiting for fresh water.... >:( >:( and we spent zillions getting a seat on the toothlesstiger....to satisfy one persons ego.. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by double plus good on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:03am
Cods, the point i was trying to make related to provocation to murder. The insinuation from the left has always been that the killing was somehow justified (like printing satirical cartoons). Can we all just agree now that Islam is about hatred of Jews, Christians and progressive western-style democracy? Yes, that's right folks, Muslims hate us.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Lord Herbert on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:07am red baron wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 7:56am:
The Srebrenica genocide. And then the 800,000 slaughtered Ugandan genocide was its greatest shame - with this happening while a Ugandan was the Head Honcho at UN headquarters who sat on his hands and did nothing. He apologised later for his inaction - which I thought was very decent of him ... |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:07am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 7:32am:
we are meant to leave it to the police.. who will jail them and take care of them???... if you hit back.. you are behaving as bad as the bad guy??.....its the left approach.... turn the other cheek.. get out of Syria... and we wont be involved.. so simple why didnt you think of that..herb? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:13am double plus good wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:03am:
total rubbish..... ISLAM true ISLAM doesnt spread hatred.... its been highjacked and sadly for a long time the true Muslim has turned a blind eye to what has been going on... just like a lot of lefties on here want OZ to turn a blindeye to what is happening.. in the hope it will self destruct and go away all of its own accord... this massacre was not provoked.. by those who are dead.... in fact provocation seems to be a last resort now... we are coming down to killing for killings sake... these extremists enjoy it...and they are spreading... but close your eyes.. and you wont notice it.. >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:13am cods wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:07am:
get out of Syria - no way - we're going to turn Raqqua into another Hiroshima. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:15am Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:07am:
Somalia...by the time the UN makes any form of move... its far too late...the damage and the spread of evil is on the march.. Havent seen the UN comment on Libya yet either... I guess the cancer isnt at crisis stage like Syria yet. >:( |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:16am Bobby. wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:13am:
its what lefties on here are crying out for us to do.... ::) ::) ::) ::) or havent you noticed that? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 6th, 2015 at 10:09am cods wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:16am:
No - the lefties want to give Muslims free entry to Australia & access to social security. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 6th, 2015 at 10:12am cods wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 8:15am:
Thanks to Obama the Islamic state is strong in Libya, Gaddafi abandoned his WMD program when he saw what happened to Iraq under Bush, under the Kenyan he was sodomised with a knife before he was killed. The Islamic state is also getting a hold in Afghanistan, more good work from the leftists. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Marla on Dec 6th, 2015 at 10:19am
Try Western capitalism and imperialism.
Covert to Marxism. Now. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 6th, 2015 at 10:24am Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 10:12am:
well I dont know whos to blame I think we all are..... but the UN is a disgrace...we shouldnt be dependent on America to do the running... if the bloody UN can call Iraq and illegal war... then let them call the shots instead of wailing like a stuck pig..which as far as i am concerned is all they do. we have huge costly HEAVY tyrannic groups all over the place... look at the Football Federation ... ::) look at the Olympic federation.. ::).do we know any of these people and how they get where they are???>.. sure as hell we dont yet we pick up the bill... didnt Australia donate $48mil to FIFA.... which went where????????>.... |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 6th, 2015 at 10:26am Bobby. wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 10:09am:
no thats only those who arrive by boat....via people smugglers.....they are unhappy we are bombing ISIS they think if he have our head in the sand.. those nasties wont notice us.. ::) ::) it makes sense to them... thats all I am saying. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 6th, 2015 at 10:27am
Hi Cods,
who brought them here? :'( |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by philperth2010 on Dec 6th, 2015 at 11:01am Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 10:12am:
Bush, Blair and Howard are responsible for the establishment of ISIS....Everything from here on in can be directly attributed to their stupidity and lies!!! :-? :-? :-? |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Soren on Dec 6th, 2015 at 7:45pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:06pm:
There were NO people like me et al 10 years ago (14, to be exact). I was as stupid and naive and smug on 10 September 2001 as you have remained ever since, turd. Muslims have become emboldened and Muslims terrorism is now a daily event. SO I have changed from my 10 September self but you haven't. You remain smug, stupid, unflushable and a turd. The jig is up with Islam, you blind, deaf, stupid, smug fool. They kill Westerners randombly in the name of Allah, Mohammed and the Koran. You insist it has nuffin to do wiv Allah, Mohammed and the Koran or all the other people who take their giuiance from Allah, Mohammed and the Koran. Thick and blind doesn't even begin to describe you, turd.i |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 6th, 2015 at 9:25pm
Allah Snack-bar
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by red baron on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:19pm
Hearing Barrack Obama bleat on about the killings just about made me sick.
This President promised so much and not only did not deliver but has impeded the progress of Freedom and Justice in huge ways. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:23pm Soren wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 7:45pm:
Hmmm ... excuses again :-/ |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:31pm red baron wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:19pm:
well as far as I can see HE HAS AT LEAST TRIED.... we are amazed at the POWER the gun lobby has over there... I remember when the head of the FBI died..Hoover.. Bobby Kennedy said.. he would never allow anyone to have that much POWER ever again... I certainly have no ides what Power he was referring too.. but I presume above what any President said....and this looks to be the case with the gun lobby over there... their POWER is enormous.. how! who knows.. its more than shops closing down...and the constitution....times and weapons have changed so much...I can only guess it wont be long before they can buy bombs on the internet.... America... where all ferals live. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:32pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 10:27am:
who what bobs.. youve lost me. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by cods on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:35pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 11:06pm:
why do you hate so many members here greg??>. wouldnt be because of differences of opinions would it? nothing as childish as that I am sure.. I think its healthy we all think from different perspectives...it doesnt mean anyones bad or ugly.. just a little misguided perhaps.. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by red baron on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:39pm
The only thing Obama has really tried on is attempting constantly to water down the bill of rights and muzzle Americans.
He has also spent a fortune on the Fema Camps throughout the Country and turned them into possible future concentration camps. Aid centres have become something Hitler would be proud of. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 7th, 2015 at 5:03pm cods wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:35pm:
I've never said that I hate any forum members. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Secret Wars on Dec 7th, 2015 at 5:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 5:03pm:
He might just be doing a verbal on you, you know, like wot you do to others. ;D |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Soren on Dec 8th, 2015 at 5:06pm philperth2010 wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 11:01am:
Your sort of prog can never decide whether they were idiots or evil geniuses who manipulated 1.6 billion Muslims plus the rest of the world. If they were so stupid how could they fool the world? And what does it say about Muslims who can be 'trickled' into becoming evil head hackers, rapists, slave traders and murderers by three fools in suits on the other side of the globe? How could three fools rob those Muslims of all ability to self-determine their lives without turning into such monsters? You must have a mindless theory for that too. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 8th, 2015 at 5:40pm red baron wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:19pm:
The promises he made yesterday was the same ones he made when he became president i.e. there's nothing new All he's saying is "I have no new ideas" |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by red baron on Dec 8th, 2015 at 6:01pm
Obama has plenty of ideas Maqqa. They are all to do with the breaking down of the Bill of Rights which founded the Country.
Obama wants to imprison people for 'crimes they are likely to commit'. He must have watched Minority Report with Tom Cruise for the inspiration. Not to be held back he has turned all FEMA ...emergency aid camps in America into Nazis like concentration camps with 'inward' facing razor wire and buildings with no windows and state of the art security monitoring systems. Who said Obama hasn't got any fresh ideas, even if he did steal them.....(from Hitler) |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 8th, 2015 at 8:37pm red baron wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 6:01pm:
He seems to be pro-Islamic (1) Reduce bombings from 1000/day to 20/day and often 80% of the plans coming back with their load intact because you can't bomb if you see women and children. So all ISIS has to do is put women and children around their headquarters (2) He was more angry at the Republicans after the Paris attacks (3) He believes the greatest threat is Climate Change (4) His solution to California attack is gun control |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by ian on Dec 8th, 2015 at 9:04pm Maqqa wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 8:37pm:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by issuevoter on Dec 8th, 2015 at 9:53pm ian wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
This has been the Muslim strategy for twenty years, if you only consider the recent Holy War. They do not form a military. They are armed civilians. All they have to do is hide their armament and walk away to avoid their enemy. Under the circumstance, when their women and children get caught up in this pointless Jihad, it is their doing. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by ian on Dec 8th, 2015 at 9:58pm issuevoter wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 9:53pm:
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Maqqa on Dec 9th, 2015 at 1:52am ian wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
The US is leading the war in Syria Australia was asked to give aid to their efforts - not to lead it |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by philperth2010 on Dec 9th, 2015 at 4:00am Soren wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 5:06pm:
There were no WMD's in Iraq!!! The evidence used to justify the WMD's in Iraq was fabricated by the US and its allies!!! The US deposed the Government of Saddam Hussein who then all defected to form ISIS!!! US biggest ally Saudi Arabia are up to their teeth in terrorism!!! It is accepted wisdom that the US lead invasion of Iraq left a vacuum that ISIS filled!!! When you attack a nation its people will fight back....This is called war!!! ::) ::) ::) Get all the fools on your side and you can be elected to anything. Frank Dane |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 9th, 2015 at 6:00am
Don't worry - Trump will keep the Mussies out.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 9th, 2015 at 6:18am
https://youtu.be/uHLg8LfIkm4
San Bernardino victims daughter exposes her mother to be a fake and shooters’ family attorney speaks out |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by garbonzo on Dec 28th, 2015 at 7:00pm
Setanta, I have to agree a bit. Your job was to help students work thru their issues with IT. Prayer alone might not do that. You need to priortise your teaching technique to make it relevant to all students, most of which would not be practising Christians students (although they may consider themselves Christians -which is good of course). Anyway, you need to exhibit tolerance and joy in teaching. I'm not talking from the viewpoint of the village idiot - I have taught at university level. But we need to think about all students, getting them aboard the learning train....and for Muslim students, getting them aboard as well, even if the have to cut loose of the dragging caboose lobotomy....to achieve a life of intellectual and personal freedom, and - of course - self-respect and dignity in a western world they, or their parents chose for them. In a perfect world, they would realise there are other religions that may be suited to their personal thoughts and life philosophy. Religions which will never pose no physical, ideological, or financial threats to modern Australia. And that should always be encouraged. IF they continue with Islam we can only hope they engage it, and us with tolerance that Mohammed was incapable of. IF not than they wil be dealt with at some point. My guess is that education and lifestyle will encourage young Muslims to stray to a life of tolerance and understanding. But if petrodollars (especially Saudi) enforce a different path....than we are in trouble. Muslims need to consider the future, their future. And how they can continue to enjoy our way of life - with a stern religion which wants to destroy it. It's up to them. There are options, pleasant and unpleasant.
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by red baron on Dec 29th, 2015 at 1:23pm
The 'Way of the Gun' is too deeply entrenched into American mainstream culture.
It would take a massive change of direction, in which Americans would be forced to embrace really tough Gun Laws. I do not believe for one second that the Country is prepared to do that. Any Politician peddling that line will quickly find themselves sidelined by the powerful gun lobby. There will be many more tragedies surrounding extremists with guns and it won't be just Muslims who are to blame. |
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Title: Re: San Bernadino shootings U.S. Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 29th, 2015 at 1:27pm red baron wrote on Dec 29th, 2015 at 1:23pm:
Hmmm, I agree with every line. http://earthsky.org/space/when-is-the-next-blue-moon |
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