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Message started by progressiveslol on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:46pm

Title: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:46pm
CO2 residence time said to be 40 years, not 1000 per previous claims

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/11/24/co2-residence-time-said-to-be-40-years-not-1000-as-noaa-claims/

Our political parties can now put their carbon taxes to bed.

Abstract


Quote:
Surplus CO2 is removed from the atmosphere by natural sinks at rate, proportional to the surplus CO2 concentration. In other words, it undergoes exponential decay with a single decay constant. This conclusion is rigorously proven, using first principles and relatively recent observations of oceans. Historical data for CO2 concentrations and emissions from 1958–2013 are then used to calculate the half-life of the surplus concentration. This theoretically derived formula is found to be an excellent match to the historical CO2 concentrations over the measurement period. Furthermore, the “initial” CO2 concentration in the formula came out to be very close to the likely “pre-industrial” CO2 concentration. Based on the used datasets, the half-life of the surplus concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is found to be approximately 40 years.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by lee on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:50pm
Climate change last of 16 on a UN survey, of what people feel important.

http://data.myworld2015.org/

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Swagman on Nov 26th, 2015 at 7:33am

Quote:
Based on the used datasets, the half-life of the surplus concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is found to be approximately 40 years.


.........beer goes flat a mite quicker than that  :D

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by mariacostel on Nov 26th, 2015 at 7:37am

lee wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:50pm:
Climate change last of 16 on a UN survey, of what people feel important.

http://data.myworld2015.org/



Where is the uber-expensive, super-important UN conference on roads and healthcare?

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Maqqa on Nov 26th, 2015 at 8:47am
Climate DENIERS the lot of you!!!

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Daleks_net_MUST_EXTERMINATE on Nov 27th, 2015 at 11:34am

Swagman wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 7:33am:

Quote:
Based on the used datasets, the half-life of the surplus concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is found to be approximately 40 years.


.........beer goes flat a mite quicker than that  :D

Meaning what?

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Greens_Win on Nov 27th, 2015 at 11:42am
Politicians Suck :
Australian politicians, parties, elections and party policies.

Why would a certain group of posters be panicking and create a cherry picked topic thread in the political section?


could it be this?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1448545235

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Cliff48 on Nov 27th, 2015 at 11:47am
When I went to school I learnt that the Earth's atmosphere is a thin layer of gases that surrounds the Earth. It composed of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 0.9% argon, 0.03% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.

If we manage to make changes to this composition, it surely must make changes to life and climate .
Are all denialists so stupid as to believe it will have no affect?

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 27th, 2015 at 1:39pm

Cliff48 wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 11:47am:
When I went to school I learnt that the Earth's atmosphere is a thin layer of gases that surrounds the Earth. It composed of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 0.9% argon, 0.03% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.

If we manage to make changes to this composition, it surely must make changes to life and climate .
Are all denialists so stupid as to believe it will have no affect?

Yup.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 27th, 2015 at 1:53pm

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 11:42am:
Politicians Suck :
Australian politicians, parties, elections and party policies.

Why would a certain group of posters be panicking and create a cherry picked topic thread in the political section?


could it be this?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1448545235

Not worried about that. Actually glad the taxing labor party are still talking about taxing people more and more.

Luv it

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 27th, 2015 at 1:53pm

Cliff48 wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 11:47am:
When I went to school I learnt that the Earth's atmosphere is a thin layer of gases that surrounds the Earth. It composed of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 0.9% argon, 0.03% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.

If we manage to make changes to this composition, it surely must make changes to life and climate .
Are all denialists so stupid as to believe it will have no affect?

0.0??? of a %. Yes it is all powerful. Talk about dopey to think 0.0??? of a % of CO2 is all that powerful and with a residence time of 40 years.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Daleks_net_MUST_EXTERMINATE on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:05pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 1:53pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 11:47am:
When I went to school I learnt that the Earth's atmosphere is a thin layer of gases that surrounds the Earth. It composed of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 0.9% argon, 0.03% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.

If we manage to make changes to this composition, it surely must make changes to life and climate .
Are all denialists so stupid as to believe it will have no affect?

0.0??? of a %. Yes it is all powerful. Talk about dopey to think 0.0??? of a % of CO2 is all that powerful and with a residence time of 40 years.

--> quantitative argument says: do whatever you want and maintain the status quo  ::) ::)

--> progs doesn't even know how models, complete with error values, run his world !!!


;D

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Daleks_net_MUST_EXTERMINATE on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:06pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 1:53pm:

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 11:42am:
Politicians Suck :
Australian politicians, parties, elections and party policies.

Why would a certain group of posters be panicking and create a cherry picked topic thread in the political section?


could it be this?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1448545235

Not worried about that. Actually glad the taxing labor party are still talking about taxing people more and more.

Luv it

Progs knows how the world works  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Maqqa on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:37pm
Climate Change has cause an increase in terrorist activities

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:39pm

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:37pm:
Climate Change has cause an increase in terrorist activities

Yes the greens and labor have been doing everything they can to bring down the Australian economy and to degrade the Australian way of life

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Maqqa on Nov 27th, 2015 at 3:03pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:39pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:37pm:
Climate Change has cause an increase in terrorist activities

Yes the greens and labor have been doing everything they can to bring down the Australian economy and to degrade the Australian way of life



You would have seen my thread about the Evolution of Climate Change

In the 1970's they said carbon emissions cause global cooling

Then they changed their mind and said carbon emissions cause global warming

Now they are taking a bet each way and say it's "climate change"

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Daleks_net_MUST_EXTERMINATE on Nov 27th, 2015 at 3:10pm

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 3:03pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:39pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:37pm:
Climate Change has cause an increase in terrorist activities

Yes the greens and labor have been doing everything they can to bring down the Australian economy and to degrade the Australian way of life



You would have seen my thread about the Evolution of Climate Change

In the 1970's they said carbon emissions cause global cooling

Then they changed their mind and said carbon emissions cause global warming

Now they are taking a bet each way and say it's "climate change"

Who's 'they'?.....thanx broseph  :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Daleks_net_MUST_EXTERMINATE on Nov 27th, 2015 at 3:11pm

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:37pm:
Climate Change has cause an increase in terrorist activities

it would be hot out in all those deserts.. did i spell that right?

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 27th, 2015 at 3:20pm

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 3:03pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:39pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:37pm:
Climate Change has cause an increase in terrorist activities

Yes the greens and labor have been doing everything they can to bring down the Australian economy and to degrade the Australian way of life



You would have seen my thread about the Evolution of Climate Change

In the 1970's they said carbon emissions cause global cooling

Then they changed their mind and said carbon emissions cause global warming

Now they are taking a bet each way and say it's "climate change"

It all boils down to

"I don't like that you are doing what you want, as apposed to what I want you to be doing"

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Daleks_net_MUST_EXTERMINATE on Nov 27th, 2015 at 4:04pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 3:20pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 3:03pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:39pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:37pm:
Climate Change has cause an increase in terrorist activities

Yes the greens and labor have been doing everything they can to bring down the Australian economy and to degrade the Australian way of life



You would have seen my thread about the Evolution of Climate Change

In the 1970's they said carbon emissions cause global cooling

Then they changed their mind and said carbon emissions cause global warming

Now they are taking a bet each way and say it's "climate change"

It all boils down to

"I don't like that you are doing what you want, as apposed to what I want you to be doing"

..because progs said so it must be  :D :D

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by mariacostel on Nov 27th, 2015 at 5:24pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 3:20pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 3:03pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:39pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:37pm:
Climate Change has cause an increase in terrorist activities

Yes the greens and labor have been doing everything they can to bring down the Australian economy and to degrade the Australian way of life



You would have seen my thread about the Evolution of Climate Change

In the 1970's they said carbon emissions cause global cooling

Then they changed their mind and said carbon emissions cause global warming

Now they are taking a bet each way and say it's "climate change"

It all boils down to

"I don't like that you are doing what you want, as apposed to what I want you to be doing"


I think it is much simpler. For some people there simply MUST be a dire global emergency to which they must throw all their efforts and other people's money into. End one emergency and another springs up. There is always one and the arguments are always variations on a theme - we must spend trillions of dollars to fund something or other always centred on the third world.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 27th, 2015 at 5:35pm
And all conservatives are petrified at the thought of change—probably why so many never really grow up—and make ideology take the place of science. That doesn’t work.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 27th, 2015 at 7:58pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 5:35pm:
And all conservatives are petrified at the thought of change—probably why so many never really grow up—and make ideology take the place of science. That doesn’t work.

Confused. Are you talking about the church of climatology. If not, it helps if you don't mumble.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:04pm
Nice deflection, bro.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:31pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:04pm:
Nice deflection, bro.

I thought the part where you said
Quote:
and make ideology take the place of science

was a perfect fit for the church of climatology. Nothing else even comes close, hence the confusion.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Greens_Win on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:03pm
I wonder if climate denialists have risk management strategies ~ like any form of insurance.


And I wonder if denials think humans are currently able to change the global climate, within a very short period.


I know denialists hate partaking in debates over issues they haven't been schooled in answering, so will avoid these two questions like the plague. Helps to expose these denialists as cowardly.




Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:22pm

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:03pm:
I wonder if climate denialists have risk management strategies ~ like any form of insurance.
What is the point of this question if only to assume insurance is warranted, which it isn't

And I wonder if denials think humans are currently able to change the global climate, within a very short period.
Not even able to in the long term. Mother nature is your changer for good and bad within bounds

I know denialists hate partaking in debates over issues they haven't been schooled in answering, so will avoid these two questions like the plague. Helps to expose these denialists as cowardly.
Really. You give yourself too much credit


Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Greens_Win on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:29pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:22pm:

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:03pm:
I wonder if climate denialists have risk management strategies ~ like any form of insurance.
What is the point of this question if only to assume insurance is warranted, which it isn't

And I wonder if denials think humans are currently able to change the global climate, within a very short period.
Not even able to in the long term. Mother nature is your changer for good and bad within bounds

I know denialists hate partaking in debates over issues they haven't been schooled in answering, so will avoid these two questions like the plague. Helps to expose these denialists as cowardly.
Really. You give yourself too much credit

The first question still remains unanswered.

The second, a full on nuclear war would cause rapid climate change.
Proving humans have the ability to change the global climate.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Greens_Win on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:36pm
If humans deforested the whole planet. Would that change the global climate?

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by mariacostel on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:56am

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
If humans deforested the whole planet. Would that change the global climate?



If we executed all gays, would that change the climate?  It might make the world a HAPPIER place!

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:59am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:56am:

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
If humans deforested the whole planet. Would that change the global climate?



If we executed all gays, would that change the climate?  It might make the world a HAPPIER place!

How would executing happy people make the world happy?  What?

Anyway, I vote we execute conservatives.  They are already too looney to ever be productive to society, and with them gone we will finally end so many of the worlds evils.  Religion for one... :)))) xenophobia... Stupidity ( at least massively reduced)...

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by mariacostel on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:15am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:59am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:56am:

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
If humans deforested the whole planet. Would that change the global climate?



If we executed all gays, would that change the climate?  It might make the world a HAPPIER place!

How would executing happy people make the world happy?  What?

Anyway, I vote we execute conservatives.  They are already too looney to ever be productive to society, and with them gone we will finally end so many of the worlds evils.  Religion for one... :)))) xenophobia... Stupidity ( at least massively reduced)...



oh alevine...  Did you not see the absurd comment I was responding to?  Did you not realising that I was responding to the absurd WITh the absurd?


Seriously people... do any of you actually READ any literature?

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:17am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:15am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:59am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:56am:

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
If humans deforested the whole planet. Would that change the global climate?



If we executed all gays, would that change the climate?  It might make the world a HAPPIER place!

How would executing happy people make the world happy?  What?

Anyway, I vote we execute conservatives.  They are already too looney to ever be productive to society, and with them gone we will finally end so many of the worlds evils.  Religion for one... :)))) xenophobia... Stupidity ( at least massively reduced)...



oh alevine...  Did you not see the absurd comment I was responding to?  Did you not realising that I was responding to the absurd WITh the absurd?


Seriously people... do any of you actually READ any literature?

Yep, reading the last tsar right now.

But you qualified your absurd comment with "might make the world happy". Not certain why you would think that?

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Greens_Win on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:20am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:56am:

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
If humans deforested the whole planet. Would that change the global climate?



If we executed all gays, would that change the climate?  It might make the world a HAPPIER place!



In current polling, a third of climate denialists think humans are responsible for the warming while thinking chimate change isn't real.
Time to educate you silly bastards.

If humans deforested the planet, will it change the climate?

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:34am

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:56am:

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
If humans deforested the whole planet. Would that change the global climate?



If we executed all gays, would that change the climate?  It might make the world a HAPPIER place!



So that's your plan. Kill all the happy people via AGW.

If humans deforested the planet, will it change the climate?

According to AGW pseudo science, you could pave it with bitumen and concrete and it has little affect on temperature.


Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Greens_Win on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:38am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:34am:

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:56am:

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
If humans deforested the whole planet. Would that change the global climate?



If we executed all gays, would that change the climate?  It might make the world a HAPPIER place!



So that's your plan. Kill all the happy people via AGW.

If humans deforested the planet, will it change the climate?

According to AGW pseudo science, you could pave it with bitumen and concrete and it has little affect on temperature.



I am asking what you think.
Do you have to email exxon first to ask what your opinion is first?


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Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:40am

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:38am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:34am:

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:56am:

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
If humans deforested the whole planet. Would that change the global climate?



If we executed all gays, would that change the climate?  It might make the world a HAPPIER place!



So that's your plan. Kill all the happy people via AGW.

If humans deforested the planet, will it change the climate?

According to AGW pseudo science, you could pave it with bitumen and concrete and it has little affect on temperature.



I am asking what you think.
Do you have to email exxon first to ask what your opinion is first?

Why would I stoop to your tin foil hat lunacy

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Greens_Win on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:43am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:40am:

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:38am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:34am:

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:56am:

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
If humans deforested the whole planet. Would that change the global climate?



If we executed all gays, would that change the climate?  It might make the world a HAPPIER place!



So that's your plan. Kill all the happy people via AGW.

If humans deforested the planet, will it change the climate?

According to AGW pseudo science, you could pave it with bitumen and concrete and it has little affect on temperature.



I am asking what you think.
Do you have to email exxon first to ask what your opinion is first?

Why would I stoop to your tin foil hat lunacy



So you are not allowed to answer questions on your opinion. Are you too stupid to be trusted?

If humans deforested every tree on the planet, would it change the climate.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:46am

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:43am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:40am:

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:38am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:34am:

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:56am:

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
If humans deforested the whole planet. Would that change the global climate?



If we executed all gays, would that change the climate?  It might make the world a HAPPIER place!



So that's your plan. Kill all the happy people via AGW.

If humans deforested the planet, will it change the climate?

According to AGW pseudo science, you could pave it with bitumen and concrete and it has little affect on temperature.



I am asking what you think.
Do you have to email exxon first to ask what your opinion is first?

Why would I stoop to your tin foil hat lunacy



So you are not allowed to answer questions on your opinion. Are you too stupid to be trusted?

If humans deforested every tree on the planet, would it change the climate.

That is a question that is too dumb to answer, because you know it wouldn't happen and the outcome would be of 100% where CO2 is only going to be in the 0.0???% of the atmosphere.

Keep with reality dopey.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by Greens_Win on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:50am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:46am:

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:43am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:40am:

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:38am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:34am:

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:56am:

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
If humans deforested the whole planet. Would that change the global climate?



If we executed all gays, would that change the climate?  It might make the world a HAPPIER place!



So that's your plan. Kill all the happy people via AGW.

If humans deforested the planet, will it change the climate?

According to AGW pseudo science, you could pave it with bitumen and concrete and it has little affect on temperature.



I am asking what you think.
Do you have to email exxon first to ask what your opinion is first?

Why would I stoop to your tin foil hat lunacy



So you are not allowed to answer questions on your opinion. Are you too stupid to be trusted?

If humans deforested every tree on the planet, would it change the climate.

That is a question that is too dumb to answer, because you know it wouldn't happen and the outcome would be of 100% where CO2 is only going to be in the 0.0???% of the atmosphere.

Keep with reality dopey.



So you admit 100% deforestation would cause climate change.

How about 50% deforestation of the world's old growth forests, would that change the global climate?

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:56am

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:50am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:46am:

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:43am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:40am:

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:38am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:34am:

____ wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:56am:

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
If humans deforested the whole planet. Would that change the global climate?



If we executed all gays, would that change the climate?  It might make the world a HAPPIER place!



So that's your plan. Kill all the happy people via AGW.

If humans deforested the planet, will it change the climate?

According to AGW pseudo science, you could pave it with bitumen and concrete and it has little affect on temperature.



I am asking what you think.
Do you have to email exxon first to ask what your opinion is first?

Why would I stoop to your tin foil hat lunacy



So you are not allowed to answer questions on your opinion. Are you too stupid to be trusted?

If humans deforested every tree on the planet, would it change the climate.

That is a question that is too dumb to answer, because you know it wouldn't happen and the outcome would be of 100% where CO2 is only going to be in the 0.0???% of the atmosphere.

Keep with reality dopey.



So you admit 100% deforestation would cause climate change.

How about 50% deforestation of the world's old growth forests, would that change the global climate?

Also putting a tube from the ocean to outter space and pumping out h2o, but it isn't going to happen.

Now you are talking old growth. What happen to full on deforestation you originally mentioned.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by The_Barnacle on Nov 28th, 2015 at 11:12am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

Quote:
Surplus CO2 is removed from the atmosphere by natural sinks at rate, proportional to the surplus CO2 concentration. In other words, it undergoes exponential decay with a single decay constant. This conclusion is rigorously proven, using first principles and relatively recent observations of oceans. Historical data for CO2 concentrations and emissions from 1958–2013 are then used to calculate the half-life of the surplus concentration. This theoretically derived formula is found to be an excellent match to the historical CO2 concentrations over the measurement period. Furthermore, the “initial” CO2 concentration in the formula came out to be very close to the likely “pre-industrial” CO2 concentration. Based on the used datasets, the half-life of the surplus concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is found to be approximately 40 years.


You do understand what a "half life" is don't you?
That means after 40 years half of the surplus CO2 that we put into the atmosphere is still there.
So it will continue to accumulate at an alarming rate.
Given that this study was undertaken by climate change skeptics I would suggest that the 40 year half life is probably a conservative estimate but as 7 billion people continue to pump CO2 into the atmosphere it will continue to accumulate even with a half life of approximately 40 years.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 28th, 2015 at 12:06pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 11:12am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

Quote:
Surplus CO2 is removed from the atmosphere by natural sinks at rate, proportional to the surplus CO2 concentration. In other words, it undergoes exponential decay with a single decay constant. This conclusion is rigorously proven, using first principles and relatively recent observations of oceans. Historical data for CO2 concentrations and emissions from 1958–2013 are then used to calculate the half-life of the surplus concentration. This theoretically derived formula is found to be an excellent match to the historical CO2 concentrations over the measurement period. Furthermore, the “initial” CO2 concentration in the formula came out to be very close to the likely “pre-industrial” CO2 concentration. Based on the used datasets, the half-life of the surplus concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is found to be approximately 40 years.


You do understand what a "half life" is don't you?
That means after 40 years half of the surplus CO2 that we put into the atmosphere is still there.
So it will continue to accumulate at an alarming rate.
Given that this study was undertaken by climate change skeptics I would suggest that the 40 year half life is probably a conservative estimate but as 7 billion people continue to pump CO2 into the atmosphere it will continue to accumulate even with a half life of approximately 40 years.

The point about knowing the half life is more like 40 years compared to AGW pseudo science 1000 years, is that you do not have to panic about catastrophic situations like our dopey friend said " the dams are going to dry up because the ground will soak up all the rain "

It goes from we must do something now, to when we can prove the link between co2 and temperature warming, we will have enough time to change our ways.

Take the 1000 year residence time and you have yourself a panic story.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by The_Barnacle on Nov 28th, 2015 at 12:27pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 12:06pm:
The point about knowing the half life is more like 40 years compared to AGW pseudo science 1000 years, is that you do not have to panic about catastrophic situations like our dopey friend said " the dams are going to dry up because the ground will soak up all the rain "

It goes from we must do something now, to when we can prove the link between co2 and temperature warming, we will have enough time to change our ways.

Take the 1000 year residence time and you have yourself a panic story.


How do you know that a half life of 40 years is safe?
Climate scientists also never claimed a half life of 1000 years
"half life" and "atmospheric residence time" are two completely different things. By trying to compare apples and oranges you are just exposing your own scientific ignorance

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 28th, 2015 at 1:01pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 12:06pm:
The point about knowing the half life is more like 40 years compared to AGW pseudo science 1000 years, is that you do not have to panic about catastrophic situations like our dopey friend said " the dams are going to dry up because the ground will soak up all the rain "

It goes from we must do something now, to when we can prove the link between co2 and temperature warming, we will have enough time to change our ways.

Take the 1000 year residence time and you have yourself a panic story.


How do you know that a half life of 40 years is safe?
Climate scientists also never claimed a half life of 1000 years
"half life" and "atmospheric residence time" are two completely different things. By trying to compare apples and oranges you are just exposing your own scientific ignorance

Panic over. DEAD.

Title: Re: Taxes not needed. Catostrophic Climate Change DIED
Post by mariacostel on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:14pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:17am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:15am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:59am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:56am:

____ wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
If humans deforested the whole planet. Would that change the global climate?



If we executed all gays, would that change the climate?  It might make the world a HAPPIER place!

How would executing happy people make the world happy?  What?

Anyway, I vote we execute conservatives.  They are already too looney to ever be productive to society, and with them gone we will finally end so many of the worlds evils.  Religion for one... :)))) xenophobia... Stupidity ( at least massively reduced)...



oh alevine...  Did you not see the absurd comment I was responding to?  Did you not realising that I was responding to the absurd WITh the absurd?


Seriously people... do any of you actually READ any literature?

Yep, reading the last tsar right now.

But you qualified your absurd comment with "might make the world happy". Not certain why you would think that?



It really wasnt that hard to work out that the response was satirical.  I am slowly getting used to the idea that the average person here is quite the uneducated dullard.

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