you'd have to go back to the early 2000s to get a lower Preferred Prime Minister rating...

and that was Simon Crean with 14%

at that stage he did the right thing by the party and stood down..

Will Shitten??

I doubt it... he is a self centred rsole who has sold out his own Union Workers to fill his pockets..

Quote:

Newspoll: Bill Shorten now Mr 15pc with voters Labor is facing the same devastating defeat that it suffered at the last federal election, as Bill Shorten’s standing with voters as the alternative prime minister has tumbled to the lowest level for any ALP leader in more than a decade. The latest Newspoll, taken ­exclusively for The Australian, ­reveals Labor’s primary vote has fallen to 33 per cent. Support for the opposition has slumped six points since Malcolm Turnbull replaced Tony Abbott 10 weeks ago and is back to the same level as the 2013 poll, which was the ALP’s worst election result in 80 years.

time to go to an election and get rid of this feral Senate..  :)

Oh yeah, late November is a great time to call an election. Have it on 25/12  :D :D

one thing all the Dudd Labor leaders all have in common..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGK6eBkdSU

What does it matter?  Idiot Tony is gone, idiot conservatives have very limited control over the liberal party now. So, people who would've voted for shorten have already gotten what they wanted. Basically,we've already had an election and conservatives lost miserably. extremist right wing lost. It will not rear its ugly head for quite some time.  Good riddance.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 5:28am:

Quote: Newspoll: Bill Shorten now Mr 15pc with voters Labor is facing the same devastating defeat that it suffered at the last federal election, as Bill Shorten’s standing with voters as the alternative prime minister has tumbled to the lowest level for any ALP leader in more than a decade. The latest Newspoll, taken ­exclusively for The Australian, ­reveals Labor’s primary vote has fallen to 33 per cent. Support for the opposition has slumped six points since Malcolm Turnbull replaced Tony Abbott 10 weeks ago and is back to the same level as the 2013 poll, which was the ALP’s worst election result in 80 years. time to go to an election and get rid of this feral Senate..  :)

Idiot!

Want a one-party state, do you?

Then eff off to somewhere else.

Maybe it's because he wants to charge punters $40 a pack for cigarettes?

What annoys me is how the news directors on our leftwing television stations order their journalists to get Shorten to comment on world affairs right after the PM has been interviewed giving his opinions.

The utter irrelevance of what this little pip-squeak has to say on any issue at all makes for very silly television viewing. 

The sooner Shorten is flushed down the toilet of history as an utter failure the better this country will be.

Let's just hope he's not a floater like someone we know on this board ... 

Wow. .. a lot of hostility from the labrats this morning. .

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 5:37am:

one thing all the Dudd Labor leaders all have in common.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGK6eBkdSU

have you noticed how the rest of the MOB have gone to GROUND...

Bill usually  gets someone else to front for him   Bowen in the past.... however I havent seen hide nor hair of any of them in ages...

where are the sheep he is meant to be leading????????>...

pretty sad isnt it??...I will have to watch QT to check he still has a front bench.. ;D ;D ;D

in times of crisis wheres Labor...

oh thats right in the BUNKER,,

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:26am:

What annoys me is how the news directors on our leftwing television stations order their journalists to get Shorten to comment on world affairs right after the PM has been interviewed giving his opinions. The utter irrelevance of what this little pip-squeak has to say on any issue at all makes for very silly television viewing.

And yet listening to idiot Tony from the backbench, because he was such a terrible pm they got rid of him, is relevant?

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:29am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 5:37am: one thing all the Dudd Labor leaders all have in common.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGK6eBkdSU have you noticed how the rest of the MOB have gone to GROUND... Bill usually  gets someone else to front for him   Bowen in the past.... however I havent seen hide nor hair of any of them in ages... where are the sheep he is meant to be leading????????>... pretty sad isnt it??...I will have to watch QT to check he still has a front bench.. ;D ;D ;D in times of crisis wheres Labor... oh thats right in the BUNKER,,

Who will you be voting for cods? ;D

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 5:48am:

What does it matter?  Idiot Tony is gone, idiot conservatives have very limited control over the liberal party now. So, people who would've voted for shorten have already gotten what they wanted. Basically,we've already had an election and conservatives lost miserably. extremist right wing lost. It will not rear its ugly head for quite some time.  Good riddance.

The execrable  policies remain.

The rot in the party remains.

The perverted and corrupt neo-con ideology remains.

The idiotic Pyne, Brandis etc and the culpable Morriscum and Cabbage-head Dutton remain.

The whole lot need to go.

If you vote based on the leader and not the policies, you DON'T DESERVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:28am:

Wow. .. a lot of hostility from the labrats this morning. .

well after the hoots and hollers over Tonys Mr 17%...

this is revenge at its best....lolololol.. couldnt happen to a nicer feller.

the labs should be ashamed they ever accepted this person as their leader........and at least the POLLS are beginning to show what he is really worth. >:( >:( >:(

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:29am:

in times of crisis wheres Labor... oh thats right in the BUNKER,,

The rest of them have moved around the S-Bend ... but Shorten seems to be a floater ... at least until the next election.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:30am:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:29am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 5:37am: one thing all the Dudd Labor leaders all have in common.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGK6eBkdSU have you noticed how the rest of the MOB have gone to GROUND... Bill usually  gets someone else to front for him   Bowen in the past.... however I havent seen hide nor hair of any of them in ages... where are the sheep he is meant to be leading????????>... pretty sad isnt it??...I will have to watch QT to check he still has a front bench.. ;D ;D ;D in times of crisis wheres Labor... oh thats right in the BUNKER,, Who will you be voting for cods? ;D

how about you tell me who you will vote for FIRST.


has shortarse still got your faith?

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:31am:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:29am: in times of crisis wheres Labor... oh thats right in the BUNKER,, The rest of them have moved around the S-Bend ... but Shorten seems to be a floater ... at least until the next election.

;D

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:31am:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:29am: in times of crisis wheres Labor... oh thats right in the BUNKER,, The rest of them have moved around the S-Bend ... but Shorten seems to be a floater ... at least until the next election.

oh herb.. thats terrible.

they could rename themselves.. the INVISIBLES...

the party you have when you havent got a party...

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:31am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:28am: Wow. .. a lot of hostility from the labrats this morning. . well after the hoots and hollers over Tonys Mr 17%... this is revenge at its best....lolololol.. couldnt happen to a nicer feller. the labs should be ashamed they ever accepted this person as their leader........and at least the POLLS are beginning to show what he is really worth. >:( >:( >:(

Do you even know why you don't like him ? Apart from the fact he is from Labor that is.

when the Unions are inviting Adam B-ant to make speeches at their rallies....


even they must know they have a problem... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:26am:

What annoys me is how the news directors on our leftwing television stations order their journalists to get Shorten to comment on world affairs right after the PM has been interviewed giving his opinions. The utter irrelevance of what this little pip-squeak has to say on any issue at all makes for very silly television viewing.  The sooner Shorten is flushed down the toilet of history as an utter failure the better this country will be. Let's just hope he's not a floater like someone we know on this board ...

Uh, that's called democracy, Herb.

And no, the right-wing-dominated MSM actually DO NOT give Labor anything like equal air-time.

They haven't since at least 2013.

Its time wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:33am:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:31am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:28am: Wow. .. a lot of hostility from the labrats this morning. . well after the hoots and hollers over Tonys Mr 17%... this is revenge at its best....lolololol.. couldnt happen to a nicer feller. the labs should be ashamed they ever accepted this person as their leader........and at least the POLLS are beginning to show what he is really worth. >:( >:( >:( Do you even know why you don't like him ? Apart from the fact he is from Labor that is.

OH YES...

do you really want the LIST.....?????????

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:34am:

when the Unions are inviting Adam B-ant to make speeches at their rallies.... even they must know they have a problem... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yes yes. But will you be voting for Turnbull? Remember all the nasty things you said about him when loser Tony was kicked out?

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:35am:

Its time wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:33am: cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:31am: [quote author=The_Mechanic link=1448306502/8#8 date=1448310500]Wow. .. a lot of hostility from the labrats this morning. . well after the hoots and hollers over Tonys Mr 17%... this is revenge at its best....lolololol.. couldnt happen to a nicer feller. the labs should be ashamed they ever accepted this person as their leader........and at least the POLLS are beginning to show what he is really worth. >:( >:( >:( Do you even know why you don't like him ? Apart from the fact he is from Labor that is.

OH YES...

do you really want the LIST.....?????????
[/quote

Go for it.

Im sure Bull Shitten will come out swinging some time this week... probably put out a red herring like gay marriage or becoming a republic. ..

He'll have some token woman standing behind him nodding her head as he makes his whining address to the leftist media.. ::)

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:36am:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:34am: when the Unions are inviting Adam B-ant to make speeches at their rallies.... even they must know they have a problem... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Yes yes. But will you be voting for Turnbull? Remember all the nasty things you said about him when loser Tony was kicked out?

no darl.. YOU FIRST..

you love shortarse so I presume hes it???>....well its either him or WALLY...

what a choice....hahahahahaha

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:40am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:36am: cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:34am: when the Unions are inviting Adam B-ant to make speeches at their rallies.... even they must know they have a problem... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Yes yes. But will you be voting for Turnbull? Remember all the nasty things you said about him when loser Tony was kicked out? no darl.. YOU FIRST.. you love shortarse so I presume hes it???>....well its either him or WALLY... what a choice....hahahahahaha

Who the hell is Wally?

At this stage I'll probably preference liberals.  As long as the right wing nut jobs remain caged up I have no problem with them.

Labor need to move right now to rid themselves of Bill Shorten.

He is punching way above his ability and it shows.

Regardless of the 'clean sheet' the Royal Commission gave him, his Union background continues to dog him.

People just plain 'don't trust' Shorten. They will take an electoral bath if they go with him.

Kat wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:31am:

If you vote based on the leader and not the policies, you DON'T DESERVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

Better still - make it no longer compulsory for people to attend the polling booths on election day.

Over 50% of the voting public would stay at home on election days if they were free to do so.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:49am:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:40am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:36am: cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:34am: when the Unions are inviting Adam B-ant to make speeches at their rallies.... even they must know they have a problem... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Yes yes. But will you be voting for Turnbull? Remember all the nasty things you said about him when loser Tony was kicked out? no darl.. YOU FIRST.. you love shortarse so I presume hes it???>....well its either him or WALLY... what a choice....hahahahahaha Who the hell is Wally? At this stage I'll probably preference liberals.  As long as the right wing nut jobs remain caged up I have no problem with them.

you dont know who WALLY is you shouldnt be in polsux lolol.......I didnt ask who you will preference... ::) ::)

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:55am:

Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:31am: If you vote based on the leader and not the policies, you DON'T DESERVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE. Better still - make it no longer compulsory for people to attend the polling booths on election day. Over 50% of the voting public would stay at home on election days if they were free to do so.

Ah, yes, this old saw again...

Conservatives LOVE this idea because they THINK that Labor voters won't bother, thereby giving the fascists an open run.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:55am:

Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:31am: If you vote based on the leader and not the policies, you DON'T DESERVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE. Better still - make it no longer compulsory for people to attend the polling booths on election day. Over 50% of the voting public would stay at home on election days if they were free to do so.

has shortarse got any policies... hilarious...probably free Uni.. free POWER...double the dole..open borders.. ::) ::)

red baron wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:53am:

Labor need to move right now to rid themselves of Bill Shorten. He is punching way above his ability and it shows. Regardless of the 'clean sheet' the Royal Commission gave him, his Union background continues to dog him. People just plain 'don't trust' Shorten. They will take an electoral bath if they go with him.

He's still dragging that rape charge against him like a dead cat on a string ...

Some of us haven't forgotten.

Our Leftwing print and television media have buried that stinking carcass in a shallow grave somewhere, and yet if it was Howard who had been accused of this it would be making the news on a daily basis for months on end like the 'Children Overboard!' stitch-up.   

red baron wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:53am:

Labor need to move right now to rid themselves of Bill Shorten. He is punching way above his ability and it shows. Regardless of the 'clean sheet' the Royal Commission gave him, his Union background continues to dog him. People just plain 'don't trust' Shorten. They will take an electoral bath if they go with him.

could you see shortarse at the APEC... omg talk about cringe cringe...

I didnt see that clean sheet the Royal gave him rb...

I thought he looked dead uncomfortable...and hes left a heap of ex mates out to dry....smacks of krudd and gillard all over again...

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 7:03am:

red baron wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:53am: Labor need to move right now to rid themselves of Bill Shorten. He is punching way above his ability and it shows. Regardless of the 'clean sheet' the Royal Commission gave him, his Union background continues to dog him. People just plain 'don't trust' Shorten. They will take an electoral bath if they go with him. could you see shortarse at the APEC... omg talk about cringe cringe... I didnt see that clean sheet the Royal gave him rb... I thought he looked dead uncomfortable...and hes left a heap of ex mates out to dry....smacks of krudd and gillard all over again...

So cods, who will you be voting for????  I answered, now it's your turn dear! 

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:59am:

has shortarse got any policies... hilarious...probably free Uni.. free POWER...double the dole..open borders.. ::) ::)

Raise the Aged Pension by $100 a fortnight? ....  Not that I'd accept it, of course.  8-) ::)

Kat wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:59am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:55am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:31am: If you vote based on the leader and not the policies, you DON'T DESERVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE. Better still - make it no longer compulsory for people to attend the polling booths on election day. Over 50% of the voting public would stay at home on election days if they were free to do so. Ah, yes, this old saw again... Conservatives LOVE this idea because they THINK that Labor voters won't bother, thereby giving the fascists an open run.

LOL In case you hadn't noticed the Coalition has Labor so far behind, only the margin is in question.  And yes, if voting were optional it is largely the labor-voting bogans who would stay at home.

Kat wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:59am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:55am: Over 50% of the voting public would stay at home on election days if they were free to do so. Ah, yes, this old saw again... Conservatives LOVE this idea because they THINK that Labor voters won't bother, thereby giving the fascists an open run.

It's called the ... 'Donkey Vote' ... something the Labor Party has been relying upon for yonkers to supplement the numbers that branch-stacking wins them in high-density inner-city ethnic suburbs.

Kat wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:08am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 5:28am: Quote: Newspoll: Bill Shorten now Mr 15pc with voters Labor is facing the same devastating defeat that it suffered at the last federal election, as Bill Shorten’s standing with voters as the alternative prime minister has tumbled to the lowest level for any ALP leader in more than a decade. The latest Newspoll, taken ­exclusively for The Australian, ­reveals Labor’s primary vote has fallen to 33 per cent. Support for the opposition has slumped six points since Malcolm Turnbull replaced Tony Abbott 10 weeks ago and is back to the same level as the 2013 poll, which was the ALP’s worst election result in 80 years. time to go to an election and get rid of this feral Senate..  :) Idiot! Want a one-party state, do you? Then eff off to somewhere else.

That's PRECISELY what you want. You've said as much in the past. Won't ever consider voting Liberal. Doesn't leave you much options. It's either Liberal/National or Labor. So there's your one-party state right there in your own cavernous, empty head.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 7:11am:

That's PRECISELY what you want. You've said as much in the past. Won't ever consider voting Liberal. Doesn't leave you much options. It's either Liberal/National or Labor. So there's your one-party state right there in your own cavernous, empty head.

Well said - and let's be frank about this - on social issues there's only the thickness of a Credit Card between Labor and Liberal policy.

It's only in economic management that the gap between the two widens to any significance.

why I cant stand bill.

he deserts his mates...check Bob Kernohan.
he climbs over people to get to the top.. check krudd and gillard as just TWO....

he cheats on his wife.......check pregnant mistress.

he was accused of rape.... where there smoke..

he jumps in for any glory no matter who he tread on..   ask paul howes...

hes an opportunist of the worst kind.. ask gillard...

he has no moral compass....ask all the women in the Unions where he honed his skills...then ask his ex wife.

FOR THOSE WHO MISSED IT, BOB'S RESPONSE TO BILL SHORTEN'S PLEDGE TO FIX BULLYING



Wed 13 Feb 2013 02:51:39 pm/55 COMMENTS
Bob Kernohan said:
"Bill Shorten should hang his head in shame, but of course he won't, this bloke has no moral conscience.
Bill Shorten was a young man that I nurtured, indeed I became his mentor in terms of providing Bill with an opportunity to have a career in the union.
I blame myself as much as anyone for allowing people like Shorten to infiltrate the AWU. Bill never came from the true blue working class, he was a uni student and a career political public servant, similar to Rudd in the Goss Government.
Bill Shorten was my campaign manager when I opposed and campaigned against Wilson and Gillard for fraud. For the record Bill Shorten, Chris Hayse, Conroy, Roxon,Swan, Feeney, Ludwig,Howes and others knew full well about the fraud perpetrated by Gillard and Wilson in what is now known as the AWU scandal.
Shorten said to me when I asked him for his support after Wilson and Gillard were exposed for ripping off hundreds of thousands of dollars from the AWU, "Bob think of your future, Wilson has gone, everyone else is moving on, BULTISH, BULTISH.
Not long after I received death threats, bullets in my mail box, bullied out of my office, and badly assulted. I am wondering Bill, will this legislation be retrospective?, Only asking.....
Bob Kernohan
Wed 13 Feb 2013 02:51:39 pm/55 COMMENTS
MORE


shortarse kept Bob Kenohan waiting 9 years to get the  payout money he was owed by the AWU...

all out of spite and because he had the POWER...

Bob wouldnt shut up.. Bob couldnt be bought....

but thats the type of person you have as leader.....

this is but a small list I dont have all day I am afraid...

if you think like Bill, this will mean nothing to you...

you are not shocked by disloyalty.. or no conscience.. no integrity cheating and lying... >:( >:( he is guilty of all that.

but I am.. I am really turned off by that....

this man has a dreadful history...... you are welcome to him... but you will find my dislike of him goes a lot deeper than him just being Labor..

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 7:04am:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:03am: red baron wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:53am: Labor need to move right now to rid themselves of Bill Shorten. He is punching way above his ability and it shows. Regardless of the 'clean sheet' the Royal Commission gave him, his Union background continues to dog him. People just plain 'don't trust' Shorten. They will take an electoral bath if they go with him. could you see shortarse at the APEC... omg talk about cringe cringe... I didnt see that clean sheet the Royal gave him rb... I thought he looked dead uncomfortable...and hes left a heap of ex mates out to dry....smacks of krudd and gillard all over again... So cods, who will you be voting for????  I answered, now it's your turn dear!

sorry who did you say you would vote for...


preferences are not votes in my book.....who want second or third best... no thanks.


may as well give the gold medal to the person who runs last.

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 7:19am:

why I cant stand bill. he deserts his mates...check Bob Kernohan. he climbs over people to get to the top.. check krudd and gillard as just TWO.... he cheats on his wife.......check pregnant mistress. he was accused of rape.... where there smoke.. he jumps in for any glory no matter who he tread on..   ask paul howes... hes an opportunist of the worst kind.. ask gillard... he has no moral compass....ask all the women in the Unions where he honed his skills...then ask his ex wife. FOR THOSE WHO MISSED IT, BOB'S RESPONSE TO BILL SHORTEN'S PLEDGE TO FIX BULLYING Wed 13 Feb 2013 02:51:39 pm/55 COMMENTS Bob Kernohan said: "Bill Shorten should hang his head in shame, but of course he won't, this bloke has no moral conscience. Bill Shorten was a young man that I nurtured, indeed I became his mentor in terms of providing Bill with an opportunity to have a career in the union. I blame myself as much as anyone for allowing people like Shorten to infiltrate the AWU. Bill never came from the true blue working class, he was a uni student and a career political public servant, similar to Rudd in the Goss Government. Bill Shorten was my campaign manager when I opposed and campaigned against Wilson and Gillard for fraud. For the record Bill Shorten, Chris Hayse, Conroy, Roxon,Swan, Feeney, Ludwig,Howes and others knew full well about the fraud perpetrated by Gillard and Wilson in what is now known as the AWU scandal. Shorten said to me when I asked him for his support after Wilson and Gillard were exposed for ripping off hundreds of thousands of dollars from the AWU, "Bob think of your future, Wilson has gone, everyone else is moving on, BULTISH, BULTISH. Not long after I received death threats, bullets in my mail box, bullied out of my office, and badly assulted. I am wondering Bill, will this legislation be retrospective?, Only asking..... Bob Kernohan Wed 13 Feb 2013 02:51:39 pm/55 COMMENTS MORE shortarse kept Bob Kenohan waiting 9 years to get the  payout money he was owed by the AWU... all out of spite and because he had the POWER... Bob wouldnt shut up.. Bob couldnt be bought.... but thats the type of person you have as leader..... this is but a small list I dont have all day I am afraid... if you think like Bill, this will mean nothing to you... you are not shocked by disloyalty.. or no conscience.. no integrity cheating and lying... >:( >:( he is guilty of all that. but I am.. I am really turned off by that.... this man has a dreadful history...... you are welcome to him... but you will find my dislike of him goes a lot deeper than him just being Labor..

Lets not forget that he's dumb-as.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 7:02am:

red baron wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:53am: Labor need to move right now to rid themselves of Bill Shorten. He is punching way above his ability and it shows. Regardless of the 'clean sheet' the Royal Commission gave him, his Union background continues to dog him. People just plain 'don't trust' Shorten. They will take an electoral bath if they go with him. He's still dragging that rape charge against him like a dead cat on a string ... Some of us haven't forgotten. Our Leftwing print and television media have buried that stinking carcass in a shallow grave somewhere, and yet if it was Howard who had been accused of this it would be making the news on a daily basis for months on end like the 'Children Overboard!' stitch-up.

it should never be forgotten....this is the type of person we are dealing with....I have just read once again how that awful man treated Bob Kernohan..one of the few people in the AWU with integrity.....they all but killed him...and that was a man who mentored Bill.... >:( >:( >:( >:(.. imagine what he would do to his enemies.... >:(

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 7:27am:

Lets not forget that he's dumb-as.

I dont think so.. look where he is.. and look where krudd and gillard are...

hes the artful dodger....very highly skilled in the take no prisoners dept.. >:( >:( >:(

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:59am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:55am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:31am: If you vote based on the leader and not the policies, you DON'T DESERVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE. Better still - make it no longer compulsory for people to attend the polling booths on election day. Over 50% of the voting public would stay at home on election days if they were free to do so. has shortarse got any policies... hilarious...probably free Uni.. free POWER...double the dole..open borders.. ::) ::)

Shorten has released a lot of policies. You just need to read them cods.

Everybody concentrating on Shorten’s popularity. Who cares?

Howard was preferred PM over Rudd and we all know how that turned out.

It is the economy, stupid!

It is the economy and the lack of any ability by Mal and Morriscum to manage it will lose the Libs the next election. MYEFO will be interesting. The next Budget will be a bigger bodge than the previous two.

The Newspoll this week showed no rise in the Coalition support. How long before we see a decrease? MYEFO?

Then Malodorous wants to increase the GST and broaden the base. The original GST replaced various sales taxes and was still inflationary—a 1% spike some of you may remember.

If the GST is broadened the inflationary impact will be much larger because there are currently no taxes on food. Libs say they can offer compensation “just like for the Carbon Price” but are they going to triple the tax free threshold again? To $54,000? (3 x $18,000)

Next election will be won by Labor because the Libs cannot manage the economy.

It’s the economy, stupid!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 7:11am:

Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:08am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 5:28am: Quote: Newspoll: Bill Shorten now Mr 15pc with voters Labor is facing the same devastating defeat that it suffered at the last federal election, as Bill Shorten’s standing with voters as the alternative prime minister has tumbled to the lowest level for any ALP leader in more than a decade. The latest Newspoll, taken ­exclusively for The Australian, ­reveals Labor’s primary vote has fallen to 33 per cent. Support for the opposition has slumped six points since Malcolm Turnbull replaced Tony Abbott 10 weeks ago and is back to the same level as the 2013 poll, which was the ALP’s worst election result in 80 years. time to go to an election and get rid of this feral Senate..  :) Idiot! Want a one-party state, do you? Then eff off to somewhere else. That's PRECISELY what you want. You've said as much in the past. Won't ever consider voting Liberal. Doesn't leave you much options. It's either Liberal/National or Labor. So there's your one-party state right there in your own cavernous, empty head.

Horseshit! That's ALL in your twisted imagination.

And no, I'll NEVER vote for extremist, far-right sh1t like this current 'government'.

YOU are the scumbags who want a tame (or no) Senate.

YOU scumbags are the ones slashing rights, liberties and freedoms.

YOU scumbags are the ones who keep dragging us into wars which have NOTHING to do with us.

YOU scumbags are the ones trying to divide society.

YOU scumbags want the less-fortunate to just go away and die.

YOU scumbags breach human rights with your FILTHY refugee policies.

YOU scumbags are the ones who think non-compulsory voting means only the Left won't bother.

YOU scumbags are a fokking BLIGHT on this once-great country, and a far bigger threat than ISIL could ever be.

And YOU scumbags deserve to fokking suffer for it.

Kat wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 7:45am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:11am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:08am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 5:28am: Quote: Newspoll: Bill Shorten now Mr 15pc with voters Labor is facing the same devastating defeat that it suffered at the last federal election, as Bill Shorten’s standing with voters as the alternative prime minister has tumbled to the lowest level for any ALP leader in more than a decade. The latest Newspoll, taken ­exclusively for The Australian, ­reveals Labor’s primary vote has fallen to 33 per cent. Support for the opposition has slumped six points since Malcolm Turnbull replaced Tony Abbott 10 weeks ago and is back to the same level as the 2013 poll, which was the ALP’s worst election result in 80 years. time to go to an election and get rid of this feral Senate..  :) Idiot! Want a one-party state, do you? Then eff off to somewhere else. That's PRECISELY what you want. You've said as much in the past. Won't ever consider voting Liberal. Doesn't leave you much options. It's either Liberal/National or Labor. So there's your one-party state right there in your own cavernous, empty head. Horseshit! That's ALL in your twisted imagination. And no, I'll NEVER vote for extremist, far-right sh1t like this current 'government'. See, I was right. YOU are the scumbags who want a tame (or no) Senate. Wrong, we want a Senate that truly represents the people, not the farce we have now. YOU scumbags are the ones slashing rights, liberties and freedoms. Only for those who wish to do us harm. Are you so upset because you're planning mass murder and your efforts are being thwarted? YOU scumbags are the ones who keep dragging us into wars which have NOTHING to do with us. God forbid we should do our part in the international community to help others simply because we can. YOU scumbags are the ones trying to divide society. No, you are by insisting on idiotic ideas like "Islam isn't the problem with religiously-motivated violence". YOU scumbags want the less-fortunate to just go away and die. Now you're just making crap up. YOU scumbags breach human rights with your FILTHY refugee policies. How many diead at sea under Labor and how many have died at sea under the Coalition? Even you, with your rudimentary grasp on mathematics should be able to work that one out. YOU scumbags are the ones who think non-compulsory voting means only the Left won't bother. They won't. YOU scumbags are a fokking BLIGHT on this once-great country. Can I buy you a handbag full of scum this Christmas? And YOU scumbags deserve to fokking suffer for it. I'll take that as a yes.  :)

Kat wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:59am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:55am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:31am: If you vote based on the leader and not the policies, you DON'T DESERVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE. Better still - make it no longer compulsory for people to attend the polling booths on election day. Over 50% of the voting public would stay at home on election days if they were free to do so. Ah, yes, this old saw again... Conservatives LOVE this idea because they THINK that Labor voters won't bother, thereby giving the fascists an open run.

Its just the Pommie showing in him, looking down on the working class who vote left.

The comment here, that Bill Shorten is 'as dumb as sh.t' is a standout. His performance against Turnbull, an erudite and intelligent man speaks volumes.

Quite frankly, Shorten is an embarrassment when he gets into a verbal duel with Turnbull. Even when Shorten has the benefit of facts on his side, he doesn't seem to be able to make any headway in the verbal duelling.

Time to go Bill.

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 7:03am:

red baron wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:53am: Labor need to move right now to rid themselves of Bill Shorten. He is punching way above his ability and it shows. Regardless of the 'clean sheet' the Royal Commission gave him, his Union background continues to dog him. People just plain 'don't trust' Shorten. They will take an electoral bath if they go with him. could you see shortarse at the APEC... omg talk about cringe cringe... I didnt see that clean sheet the Royal gave him rb... I thought he looked dead uncomfortable...and hes left a heap of ex mates out to dry....smacks of krudd and gillard all over again...

Cringe, Gringe Eh?

Do you think he would have been any worse than Abbott, tongue hanging out walking like a monkey, threatening to shirt front a world leader!

Thats what I call cringe, cringe!

Who are you voting for again next election cods? Mal?

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 8:15am:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:03am: red baron wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:53am: Labor need to move right now to rid themselves of Bill Shorten. He is punching way above his ability and it shows. Regardless of the 'clean sheet' the Royal Commission gave him, his Union background continues to dog him. People just plain 'don't trust' Shorten. They will take an electoral bath if they go with him. could you see shortarse at the APEC... omg talk about cringe cringe... I didnt see that clean sheet the Royal gave him rb... I thought he looked dead uncomfortable...and hes left a heap of ex mates out to dry....smacks of krudd and gillard all over again... Cringe, Gringe Eh? Do you think he would have been any worse than Abbott, tongue hanging out walking like a monkey, threatening to shirt front a world leader! Thats what I call cringe, cringe! Who are you voting for again next election cods? Mal?

You mean a mass-murdering dictator, right? 

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 8:11am:

Its just the Pommie showing in him, looking down on the working class who vote left.

;D

I'm an Equal Opportunity Hater, Red!

I hate anybody ... high-born or low ... who votes 'Labor' without giving a rat's arse if this puts the country into deep shít financially that the next incoming Liberal party will have to clean up.

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 8:15am:

Do you think he would have been any worse than Abbott, tongue hanging out walking like a monkey, threatening to shirt front a world leader!

:P

;D ;D ;D

red baron wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 8:14am:

The comment here, that Bill Shorten is 'as dumb as sh.t' is a standout. His performance against Turnbull, an erudite and intelligent man speaks volumes. Quite frankly, Shorten is an embarrassment when he gets into a verbal duel with Turnbull. Even when Shorten has the benefit of facts on his side, he doesn't seem to be able to make any headway in the verbal duelling. Time to go Bill.

Turnbull hasn't thrown a punch yet

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 7:33am:

Shorten has released a lot of policies. You just need to read them cods.

And that's why he's at 15%  ;D ;D

Maqqa wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 8:48am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:33am: Shorten has released a lot of policies. You just need to read them cods. And that's why he's at 15%  ;D ;D

;D ;D ;D

He walked right into that one, didn't he?!

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 8:15am:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:03am: red baron wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:53am: Labor need to move right now to rid themselves of Bill Shorten. He is punching way above his ability and it shows. Regardless of the 'clean sheet' the Royal Commission gave him, his Union background continues to dog him. People just plain 'don't trust' Shorten. They will take an electoral bath if they go with him. could you see shortarse at the APEC... omg talk about cringe cringe... I didnt see that clean sheet the Royal gave him rb... I thought he looked dead uncomfortable...and hes left a heap of ex mates out to dry....smacks of krudd and gillard all over again... Cringe, Gringe Eh? Do you think he would have been any worse than Abbott, tongue hanging out walking like a monkey, threatening to shirt front a world leader! Thats what I call cringe, cringe! Who are you voting for again next election cods? Mal?

You do realise that Putin has his political enemies murdered, right?

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 8:54am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 8:48am: Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:33am: Shorten has released a lot of policies. You just need to read them cods. And that's why he's at 15%  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D He walked right into that one, didn't he?!

http://i.imgur.com/Wvcn9RI.gif

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 9:03am:

You do realise that Putin has his political enemies murdered, right?

Ahhhh polonium - the poison of choice by all modern KGB  :o :o

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 7:19am:

why I cant stand bill. he deserts his mates...check Bob Kernohan. he climbs over people to get to the top.. check krudd and gillard as just TWO.... he cheats on his wife.......check pregnant mistress. he was accused of rape.... where there smoke.. he jumps in for any glory no matter who he tread on..   ask paul howes... hes an opportunist of the worst kind.. ask gillard... he has no moral compass....ask all the women in the Unions where he honed his skills...then ask his ex wife. FOR THOSE WHO MISSED IT, BOB'S RESPONSE TO BILL SHORTEN'S PLEDGE TO FIX BULLYING Wed 13 Feb 2013 02:51:39 pm/55 COMMENTS Bob Kernohan said: "Bill Shorten should hang his head in shame, but of course he won't, this bloke has no moral conscience. Bill Shorten was a young man that I nurtured, indeed I became his mentor in terms of providing Bill with an opportunity to have a career in the union. I blame myself as much as anyone for allowing people like Shorten to infiltrate the AWU. Bill never came from the true blue working class, he was a uni student and a career political public servant, similar to Rudd in the Goss Government. Bill Shorten was my campaign manager when I opposed and campaigned against Wilson and Gillard for fraud. For the record Bill Shorten, Chris Hayse, Conroy, Roxon,Swan, Feeney, Ludwig,Howes and others knew full well about the fraud perpetrated by Gillard and Wilson in what is now known as the AWU scandal. Shorten said to me when I asked him for his support after Wilson and Gillard were exposed for ripping off hundreds of thousands of dollars from the AWU, "Bob think of your future, Wilson has gone, everyone else is moving on, BULTISH, BULTISH. Not long after I received death threats, bullets in my mail box, bullied out of my office, and badly assulted. I am wondering Bill, will this legislation be retrospective?, Only asking..... Bob Kernohan Wed 13 Feb 2013 02:51:39 pm/55 COMMENTS MORE shortarse kept Bob Kenohan waiting 9 years to get the  payout money he was owed by the AWU... all out of spite and because he had the POWER... Bob wouldnt shut up.. Bob couldnt be bought.... but thats the type of person you have as leader..... this is but a small list I dont have all day I am afraid... if you think like Bill, this will mean nothing to you... you are not shocked by disloyalty.. or no conscience.. no integrity cheating and lying... >:( >:( he is guilty of all that. but I am.. I am really turned off by that.... this man has a dreadful history...... you are welcome to him... but you will find my dislike of him goes a lot deeper than him just being Labor..

My first preference will be with either the sex party, democrats or the socialist alliance if they are around.  But given they will not win the seat, my preferences will be with most probably the libs at this stage over labor.  Depends.  Def greens last,  pu55y party has no convictions. 

Now, who will you be voting?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 7:51am:

Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:45am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:11am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:08am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 5:28am: Quote: Newspoll: Bill Shorten now Mr 15pc with voters Labor is facing the same devastating defeat that it suffered at the last federal election, as Bill Shorten’s standing with voters as the alternative prime minister has tumbled to the lowest level for any ALP leader in more than a decade. The latest Newspoll, taken ­exclusively for The Australian, ­reveals Labor’s primary vote has fallen to 33 per cent. Support for the opposition has slumped six points since Malcolm Turnbull replaced Tony Abbott 10 weeks ago and is back to the same level as the 2013 poll, which was the ALP’s worst election result in 80 years. time to go to an election and get rid of this feral Senate..  :) Idiot! Want a one-party state, do you? Then eff off to somewhere else. That's PRECISELY what you want. You've said as much in the past. Won't ever consider voting Liberal. Doesn't leave you much options. It's either Liberal/National or Labor. So there's your one-party state right there in your own cavernous, empty head. Horseshit! That's ALL in your twisted imagination. And no, I'll NEVER vote for extremist, far-right sh1t like this current 'government'. See, I was right. YOU are the scumbags who want a tame (or no) Senate. Wrong, we want a Senate that truly represents the people, not the farce we have now. YOU scumbags are the ones slashing rights, liberties and freedoms. Only for those who wish to do us harm. Are you so upset because you're planning mass murder and your efforts are being thwarted? YOU scumbags are the ones who keep dragging us into wars which have NOTHING to do with us. God forbid we should do our part in the international community to help others simply because we can. YOU scumbags are the ones trying to divide society. No, you are by insisting on idiotic ideas like "Islam isn't the problem with religiously-motivated violence". YOU scumbags want the less-fortunate to just go away and die. Now you're just making crap up. YOU scumbags breach human rights with your FILTHY refugee policies. How many diead at sea under Labor and how many have died at sea under the Coalition? Even you, with your rudimentary grasp on mathematics should be able to work that one out. YOU scumbags are the ones who think non-compulsory voting means only the Left won't bother. They won't. YOU scumbags are a fokking BLIGHT on this once-great country. Can I buy you a handbag full of scum this Christmas? And YOU scumbags deserve to fokking suffer for it. I'll take that as a yes.  :)

Why don't you go somewhere private, and spontaneously combust?

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:28am:

Wow. .. a lot of hostility from the labrats this morning. .

I know, Mechanic. You think they could at least be civil.

Dickheads.

Maqqa wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 8:46am:

red baron wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 8:14am: The comment here, that Bill Shorten is 'as dumb as sh.t' is a standout. His performance against Turnbull, an erudite and intelligent man speaks volumes. Quite frankly, Shorten is an embarrassment when he gets into a verbal duel with Turnbull. Even when Shorten has the benefit of facts on his side, he doesn't seem to be able to make any headway in the verbal duelling. Time to go Bill. Turnbull hasn't thrown a punch yet

If he did it would be his first.

Kat wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:51am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:45am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:11am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:08am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 5:28am: Quote: Newspoll: Bill Shorten now Mr 15pc with voters Labor is facing the same devastating defeat that it suffered at the last federal election, as Bill Shorten’s standing with voters as the alternative prime minister has tumbled to the lowest level for any ALP leader in more than a decade. The latest Newspoll, taken ­exclusively for The Australian, ­reveals Labor’s primary vote has fallen to 33 per cent. Support for the opposition has slumped six points since Malcolm Turnbull replaced Tony Abbott 10 weeks ago and is back to the same level as the 2013 poll, which was the ALP’s worst election result in 80 years. time to go to an election and get rid of this feral Senate..  :) Idiot! Want a one-party state, do you? Then eff off to somewhere else. That's PRECISELY what you want. You've said as much in the past. Won't ever consider voting Liberal. Doesn't leave you much options. It's either Liberal/National or Labor. So there's your one-party state right there in your own cavernous, empty head. Horseshit! That's ALL in your twisted imagination. And no, I'll NEVER vote for extremist, far-right sh1t like this current 'government'. See, I was right. YOU are the scumbags who want a tame (or no) Senate. Wrong, we want a Senate that truly represents the people, not the farce we have now. YOU scumbags are the ones slashing rights, liberties and freedoms. Only for those who wish to do us harm. Are you so upset because you're planning mass murder and your efforts are being thwarted? YOU scumbags are the ones who keep dragging us into wars which have NOTHING to do with us. God forbid we should do our part in the international community to help others simply because we can. YOU scumbags are the ones trying to divide society. No, you are by insisting on idiotic ideas like "Islam isn't the problem with religiously-motivated violence". YOU scumbags want the less-fortunate to just go away and die. Now you're just making crap up. YOU scumbags breach human rights with your FILTHY refugee policies. How many diead at sea under Labor and how many have died at sea under the Coalition? Even you, with your rudimentary grasp on mathematics should be able to work that one out. YOU scumbags are the ones who think non-compulsory voting means only the Left won't bother. They won't. YOU scumbags are a fokking BLIGHT on this once-great country. Can I buy you a handbag full of scum this Christmas? And YOU scumbags deserve to fokking suffer for it. I'll take that as a yes.  :) Why don't you go somewhere private, and spontaneously combust?

Because showing the wrongness in your idiotic comments is much more fun!  :)

Kat wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

Why don't you go somewhere private, and spontaneously combus

just as you think some people cant go any lower..

they surprise you...


what a disgusting thing to say.

is this cyber bullying....if it is its time fd did something about it.. >:( >:(

if its too hot in the kitchen get out...simple really..

there cannot be any place on here for this type of bullying..

It's tit for tat - and really - time the personal stuff stopped here.  Discuss - don't abuse.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 11:14am:

Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 10:14am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:51am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:45am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:11am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:08am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 5:28am: Quote: Newspoll: Bill Shorten now Mr 15pc with voters Labor is facing the same devastating defeat that it suffered at the last federal election, as Bill Shorten’s standing with voters as the alternative prime minister has tumbled to the lowest level for any ALP leader in more than a decade. The latest Newspoll, taken ­exclusively for The Australian, ­reveals Labor’s primary vote has fallen to 33 per cent. Support for the opposition has slumped six points since Malcolm Turnbull replaced Tony Abbott 10 weeks ago and is back to the same level as the 2013 poll, which was the ALP’s worst election result in 80 years. time to go to an election and get rid of this feral Senate..  :) Idiot! Want a one-party state, do you? Then eff off to somewhere else. That's PRECISELY what you want. You've said as much in the past. Won't ever consider voting Liberal. Doesn't leave you much options. It's either Liberal/National or Labor. So there's your one-party state right there in your own cavernous, empty head. Horseshit! That's ALL in your twisted imagination. And no, I'll NEVER vote for extremist, far-right sh1t like this current 'government'. See, I was right. YOU are the scumbags who want a tame (or no) Senate. Wrong, we want a Senate that truly represents the people, not the farce we have now. YOU scumbags are the ones slashing rights, liberties and freedoms. Only for those who wish to do us harm. Are you so upset because you're planning mass murder and your efforts are being thwarted? YOU scumbags are the ones who keep dragging us into wars which have NOTHING to do with us. God forbid we should do our part in the international community to help others simply because we can. YOU scumbags are the ones trying to divide society. No, you are by insisting on idiotic ideas like "Islam isn't the problem with religiously-motivated violence". YOU scumbags want the less-fortunate to just go away and die. Now you're just making crap up. YOU scumbags breach human rights with your FILTHY refugee policies. How many diead at sea under Labor and how many have died at sea under the Coalition? Even you, with your rudimentary grasp on mathematics should be able to work that one out. YOU scumbags are the ones who think non-compulsory voting means only the Left won't bother. They won't. YOU scumbags are a fokking BLIGHT on this once-great country. Can I buy you a handbag full of scum this Christmas? And YOU scumbags deserve to fokking suffer for it. I'll take that as a yes.  :) Why don't you go somewhere private, and spontaneously combust? Because showing the wrongness in your idiotic comments is much more fun!  :)

I suppose it might be - IF I was wrong.

But, I'm not.

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 12:08pm:

Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 10:14am: Why don't you go somewhere private, and spontaneously combus just as you think some people cant go any lower.. they surprise you... what a disgusting thing to say. is this cyber bullying....if it is its time fd did something about it.. >:( >:( if its too hot in the kitchen get out...simple really.. there cannot be any place on here for this type of bullying..

Oh, grow the hell up!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 11:14am:

Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 10:14am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:51am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:45am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:11am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:08am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 5:28am: Quote: Newspoll: Bill Shorten now Mr 15pc with voters Labor is facing the same devastating defeat that it suffered at the last federal election, as Bill Shorten’s standing with voters as the alternative prime minister has tumbled to the lowest level for any ALP leader in more than a decade. The latest Newspoll, taken ­exclusively for The Australian, ­reveals Labor’s primary vote has fallen to 33 per cent. Support for the opposition has slumped six points since Malcolm Turnbull replaced Tony Abbott 10 weeks ago and is back to the same level as the 2013 poll, which was the ALP’s worst election result in 80 years. time to go to an election and get rid of this feral Senate..  :) Idiot! Want a one-party state, do you? Then eff off to somewhere else. That's PRECISELY what you want. You've said as much in the past. Won't ever consider voting Liberal. Doesn't leave you much options. It's either Liberal/National or Labor. So there's your one-party state right there in your own cavernous, empty head. Horseshit! That's ALL in your twisted imagination. And no, I'll NEVER vote for extremist, far-right sh1t like this current 'government'. See, I was right. YOU are the scumbags who want a tame (or no) Senate. Wrong, we want a Senate that truly represents the people, not the farce we have now. YOU scumbags are the ones slashing rights, liberties and freedoms. Only for those who wish to do us harm. Are you so upset because you're planning mass murder and your efforts are being thwarted? YOU scumbags are the ones who keep dragging us into wars which have NOTHING to do with us. God forbid we should do our part in the international community to help others simply because we can. YOU scumbags are the ones trying to divide society. No, you are by insisting on idiotic ideas like "Islam isn't the problem with religiously-motivated violence". YOU scumbags want the less-fortunate to just go away and die. Now you're just making crap up. YOU scumbags breach human rights with your FILTHY refugee policies. How many diead at sea under Labor and how many have died at sea under the Coalition? Even you, with your rudimentary grasp on mathematics should be able to work that one out. YOU scumbags are the ones who think non-compulsory voting means only the Left won't bother. They won't. YOU scumbags are a fokking BLIGHT on this once-great country. Can I buy you a handbag full of scum this Christmas? And YOU scumbags deserve to fokking suffer for it. I'll take that as a yes.  :) Why don't you go somewhere private, and spontaneously combust? Because showing the wrongness in your idiotic comments is much more fun!  :)

to be honest.. its not hard..

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 5:30pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 11:14am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 10:14am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:51am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:45am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:11am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:08am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 5:28am: Quote: Newspoll: Bill Shorten now Mr 15pc with voters Labor is facing the same devastating defeat that it suffered at the last federal election, as Bill Shorten’s standing with voters as the alternative prime minister has tumbled to the lowest level for any ALP leader in more than a decade. The latest Newspoll, taken ­exclusively for The Australian, ­reveals Labor’s primary vote has fallen to 33 per cent. Support for the opposition has slumped six points since Malcolm Turnbull replaced Tony Abbott 10 weeks ago and is back to the same level as the 2013 poll, which was the ALP’s worst election result in 80 years. time to go to an election and get rid of this feral Senate..  :) Idiot! Want a one-party state, do you? Then eff off to somewhere else. That's PRECISELY what you want. You've said as much in the past. Won't ever consider voting Liberal. Doesn't leave you much options. It's either Liberal/National or Labor. So there's your one-party state right there in your own cavernous, empty head. Horseshit! That's ALL in your twisted imagination. And no, I'll NEVER vote for extremist, far-right sh1t like this current 'government'. See, I was right. YOU are the scumbags who want a tame (or no) Senate. Wrong, we want a Senate that truly represents the people, not the farce we have now. YOU scumbags are the ones slashing rights, liberties and freedoms. Only for those who wish to do us harm. Are you so upset because you're planning mass murder and your efforts are being thwarted? YOU scumbags are the ones who keep dragging us into wars which have NOTHING to do with us. God forbid we should do our part in the international community to help others simply because we can. YOU scumbags are the ones trying to divide society. No, you are by insisting on idiotic ideas like "Islam isn't the problem with religiously-motivated violence". YOU scumbags want the less-fortunate to just go away and die. Now you're just making crap up. YOU scumbags breach human rights with your FILTHY refugee policies. How many diead at sea under Labor and how many have died at sea under the Coalition? Even you, with your rudimentary grasp on mathematics should be able to work that one out. YOU scumbags are the ones who think non-compulsory voting means only the Left won't bother. They won't. YOU scumbags are a fokking BLIGHT on this once-great country. Can I buy you a handbag full of scum this Christmas? And YOU scumbags deserve to fokking suffer for it. I'll take that as a yes.  :) Why don't you go somewhere private, and spontaneously combust? Because showing the wrongness in your idiotic comments is much more fun!  :) to be honest.. its not hard..

it is very easy. Anyhow, kat just spits anger and bile. Nothing he says has any considered value.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

Nothing he says has any considered value.

and you think anything you have to say does?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

red baron wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 8:14am:

The comment here, that Bill Shorten is 'as dumb as sh.t' is a standout. His performance against Turnbull, an erudite and intelligent man speaks volumes. Quite frankly, Shorten is an embarrassment when he gets into a verbal duel with Turnbull. Even when Shorten has the benefit of facts on his side, he doesn't seem to be able to make any headway in the verbal duelling. Time to go Bill.

Turnbull can't speak for poo, because the media spins Turnbull as a "wonderful statesman" doesn't make it true (what the bugger does that even mean?)

I've watched Turnbull over several years closely, he's an arrogant condescending prick who personally abuses critics and just spouts hyperbolic nonsense.

Shorten's public personal is atrocious (but he is much better in Parliament) but the idea that Turnbull is this amazing character is literally a figment cooked up by the media which is still riding firmly on his dick while at the same time I don't think I've ever seen a positive article on Shorten in the media. Never. I couldn't name a single one.

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:47pm:

red baron wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 8:14am: The comment here, that Bill Shorten is 'as dumb as sh.t' is a standout. His performance against Turnbull, an erudite and intelligent man speaks volumes. Quite frankly, Shorten is an embarrassment when he gets into a verbal duel with Turnbull. Even when Shorten has the benefit of facts on his side, he doesn't seem to be able to make any headway in the verbal duelling. Time to go Bill. Turnbull can't speak for poo, because the media spins Turnbull as a "wonderful statesman" doesn't make it true (what the bugger does that even mean?) I've watched Turnbull over several years closely, he's an arrogant condescending prick who personally abuses critics and just spouts hyperbolic nonsense. Shorten's public personal is atrocious (but he is much better in Parliament) but the idea that Turnbull is this amazing character is literally a figment cooked up by the media which is still riding firmly on his dick while at the same time I don't think I've ever seen a positive article on Shorten in the media. Never. I couldn't name a single one.

Turnbull is recycled rubbish who was overturned by the worst and dumbest PM in living memory.

An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit.

double plus good wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 3:50am:

An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit.

Cutting boxes for 8 hrs?

The first thing—the very first thing—Turnbull actually did, confirming the lease by the Chinese govt of the Port of Darwin, including the military wharf, was a horrendous mistake.

Hubris, not reading his brief properly because he knows everything.

Meanwhile the economy is turning to sh1t. Wonderful PM otherwise  ::)

double plus good wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 3:50am:

An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit.

;D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 11:14am:

Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 10:14am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:51am: Kat wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:45am: Horseshit! That's ALL in your twisted imagination. And no, I'll NEVER vote for extremist, far-right sh1t like this current 'government'. See, I was right. YOU are the scumbags who want a tame (or no) Senate. Wrong, we want a Senate that truly represents the people, not the farce we have now. YOU scumbags are the ones slashing rights, liberties and freedoms. Only for those who wish to do us harm. Are you so upset because you're planning mass murder and your efforts are being thwarted? YOU scumbags are the ones who keep dragging us into wars which have NOTHING to do with us. God forbid we should do our part in the international community to help others simply because we can. YOU scumbags are the ones trying to divide society. No, you are by insisting on idiotic ideas like "Islam isn't the problem with religiously-motivated violence". YOU scumbags want the less-fortunate to just go away and die. Now you're just making crap up. YOU scumbags breach human rights with your FILTHY refugee policies. How many diead at sea under Labor and how many have died at sea under the Coalition? Even you, with your rudimentary grasp on mathematics should be able to work that one out. YOU scumbags are the ones who think non-compulsory voting means only the Left won't bother. They won't. YOU scumbags are a fokking BLIGHT on this once-great country. Can I buy you a handbag full of scum this Christmas? And YOU scumbags deserve to fokking suffer for it. I'll take that as a yes.  :) Why don't you go somewhere private, and spontaneously combust? Because showing the wrongness in your idiotic comments is much more fun!  :)

You probably need to get more than about 10% of your comments correct to do that or as in this example you will have the opposite effect.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 5:22am:

The first thing—the very first thing—Turnbull actually did, confirming the lease by the Chinese govt of the Port of Darwin, including the military wharf, was a horrendous mistake. Hubris, not reading his brief properly because he knows everything. Meanwhile the economy is turning to sh1t. Wonderful PM otherwise  ::)

Regardless, I'd say the people are quite relieved to be past the Gillard/Rudd/Abbott era so they'll continue to go easy on Turnbull.  I don't think anyone's in a mood for a 6th PM.  And given shorten is still associated with rudd/Gillard so I doubt people would entertain him any longer.

It’s the economy, stupid.

double plus good wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 3:50am:

An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit.

An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12.

Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting.

I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you?

Kat wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 6:43am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting.

Now, now Kat, sparky is doing the best he can.  Box cutting is very hard for the poor fella, he is still trying to learn how to use the Stanley knife.  The slider is not an easy thing to operate!

;)

Kat wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 6:43am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you?

Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 7:06am:

Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you? Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive.

Who are you to judge?  If Kat makes enough for themselves and their family by working 4 hrs a week then that's up to Kat. Not you.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 7:06am:

Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you? Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive.

It might be, IF it WAS only four hours a week.

But, it's not.

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 7:24am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06am: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you? Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive. Who are you to judge?  If Kat makes enough for themselves and their family by working 4 hrs a week then that's up to Kat. Not you.

He brings it on himself. and 4 hours a week is not even remotely impressive. Most high school students do more than that.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 7:39am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:24am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06am: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you? Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive. Who are you to judge?  If Kat makes enough for themselves and their family by working 4 hrs a week then that's up to Kat. Not you. He brings it on himself. and 4 hours a week is not even remotely impressive. Most high school students do more than that.

That's not the point. The question is why does anyone need to work more than 4 hours, if they don't need to?  Stop being so prescribed to these "societal norms". I applaud anyone for making their own decisions, that work for the lifestyle they are after. 

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 7:53am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:24am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06am: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you? Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive. Who are you to judge?  If Kat makes enough for themselves and their family by working 4 hrs a week then that's up to Kat. Not you. He brings it on himself. and 4 hours a week is not even remotely impressive. Most high school students do more than that. That's not the point. The question is why does anyone need to work more than 4 hours, if they don't need to?  Stop being so prescribed to these "societal norms". I applaud anyone for making their own decisions, that work for the lifestyle they are after.

Kat carries on like a headless chook about the dole - because he lives on it so much. So when he takes pride in a mere 4 hours of work we see just how small his work ethic is.  And earning a whole $50/hour for a part-time gig?  Not that much really especially if it was just for 4 hours. Make it 25 hours a week every week and he has something.

Kat is an angry, angry scumbag who brings it all upon himself.

Kat said he worked 4 hours yesterday, did not say he did no work apart from that.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:53am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:24am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06am: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you? Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive. Who are you to judge?  If Kat makes enough for themselves and their family by working 4 hrs a week then that's up to Kat. Not you. He brings it on himself. and 4 hours a week is not even remotely impressive. Most high school students do more than that. That's not the point. The question is why does anyone need to work more than 4 hours, if they don't need to?  Stop being so prescribed to these "societal norms". I applaud anyone for making their own decisions, that work for the lifestyle they are after.  Kat carries on like a headless chook about the dole - because he lives on it so much. So when he takes pride in a mere 4 hours of work we see just how small his work ethic is.  And earning a whole $50/hour for a part-time gig?  Not that much really especially if it was just for 4 hours. Make it 25 hours a week every week and he has something. Kat is an angry, angry scumbag who brings it all upon himself.

Kat seems like a normal person following a passion.  Well done to him.

As for the dole, if Kat is entitled to it then he can use it.  Blame the law, not the person.  I don't see you nut jobs crying about rich scumbags constantly using loopholes to avoid tax.

I just love it when a bitter old bat tries to denigrate someone for working 4 hours, when she herself doesn't work ANY.

:D :D :D :D

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:53am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:24am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06am: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you? Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive. Who are you to judge?  If Kat makes enough for themselves and their family by working 4 hrs a week then that's up to Kat. Not you. He brings it on himself. and 4 hours a week is not even remotely impressive. Most high school students do more than that. That's not the point. The question is why does anyone need to work more than 4 hours, if they don't need to?  Stop being so prescribed to these "societal norms". I applaud anyone for making their own decisions, that work for the lifestyle they are after.  Kat carries on like a headless chook about the dole - because he lives on it so much. So when he takes pride in a mere 4 hours of work we see just how small his work ethic is.  And earning a whole $50/hour for a part-time gig?  Not that much really especially if it was just for 4 hours. Make it 25 hours a week every week and he has something. Kat is an angry, angry scumbag who brings it all upon himself.

Thats four hours more than you did you lazy fat prick!

I bet your gut hangs over the key board  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 8:28am:

Kat said he worked 4 hours yesterday, did not say he did no work apart from that.

Yeah he did that 4 hours the week before as well.

I thought you said your job was permanent. Four hours is definitely a casual span of hours. I'm coming up to my twenty year long service and I work a 50 hour week. You can tell the difference in attitudes. The four hour a day bike assembler is a nasty, resentful bong frog. Yeah, Labor!!!

50 hours minus the 3 hours you spend posting here.

;) ;)

double plus good wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 10:21am:

I thought you said your job was permanent. Four hours is definitely a casual span of hours. I'm coming up to my twenty year long service and I work a 50 hour week. You can tell the difference in attitudes. The four hour a day bike assembler is a nasty, resentful bong frog. Yeah, Labor!!!

Yeah bludges all week so he can do his 10 hours overtime on Saturday

double plus good wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 10:21am:

I thought you said your job was permanent. Four hours is definitely a casual span of hours. I'm coming up to my twenty year long service and I work a 50 hour week. You can tell the difference in attitudes. The four hour a day bike assembler is a nasty, resentful bong frog. Yeah, Labor!!!

No its not.  It can be part time, sparky.  Plus, you dont really work do you? I mean, cutting boxes...isnt that something they let you do to just make you feel good?

double plus good wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 10:21am:

I thought you said your job was permanent. Four hours is definitely a casual span of hours. I'm coming up to my twenty year long service and I work a 50 hour week. You can tell the difference in attitudes. The four hour a day bike assembler is a nasty, resentful bong frog. Yeah, Labor!!!

You ever heard the term permanent part time ?

Or are you aware of the wind down provisions available prior to retirement ?

Do you know that limited hours can be a provision of returning to work after an injury ?

Any number of explanations possible without jumping to incorrect assumptions so no 4 hr shifts are definitely not necessarily casual hours.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 7:39am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:24am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06am: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you? Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive. Who are you to judge?  If Kat makes enough for themselves and their family by working 4 hrs a week then that's up to Kat. Not you. He brings it on himself. and 4 hours a week is not even remotely impressive. Most high school students do more than that.

The point is, forkstick, that it's NOT 4 hours a week.

That's YOUR belief. And, as usual, it is devoid of the facts.

My comment was what I earned YESTERDAY, and was an example, nothing more.

It's NOT what I'll earn for the week, not even close.

So STHU, you haven't a clue what you're on about.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:53am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:24am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06am: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you? Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive. Who are you to judge?  If Kat makes enough for themselves and their family by working 4 hrs a week then that's up to Kat. Not you. He brings it on himself. and 4 hours a week is not even remotely impressive. Most high school students do more than that. That's not the point. The question is why does anyone need to work more than 4 hours, if they don't need to?  Stop being so prescribed to these "societal norms". I applaud anyone for making their own decisions, that work for the lifestyle they are after.  Kat carries on like a headless chook about the dole - because he lives on it so much. So when he takes pride in a mere 4 hours of work we see just how small his work ethic is.  And earning a whole $50/hour for a part-time gig?  Not that much really especially if it was just for 4 hours. Make it 25 hours a week every week and he has something. Kat is an angry, angry scumbag who brings it all upon himself.

Corkhead, I support a ferking footy team too, but that doesn't mean I play.

Christ, but you're thick.

Kat wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 11:26am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:24am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06am: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you? Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive. Who are you to judge?  If Kat makes enough for themselves and their family by working 4 hrs a week then that's up to Kat. Not you. He brings it on himself. and 4 hours a week is not even remotely impressive. Most high school students do more than that. The point is, forkstick, that it's NOT 4 hours a week. That's YOUR belief. And, as usual, it is devoid of the facts. My comment was what I earned YESTERDAY, and was an example, nothing more. It's NOT what I'll earn for the week, not even close. So STHU, you haven't a clue what you're on about.

yeah you guys..

just because kat works 4 hours doesn't mean he loses his dole money...

do yeah.. he's earning plenty more..

courtesy of the tax payer !!

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 11:29am:

Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 11:26am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:24am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06am: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you? Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive. Who are you to judge?  If Kat makes enough for themselves and their family by working 4 hrs a week then that's up to Kat. Not you. He brings it on himself. and 4 hours a week is not even remotely impressive. Most high school students do more than that. The point is, forkstick, that it's NOT 4 hours a week. That's YOUR belief. And, as usual, it is devoid of the facts. My comment was what I earned YESTERDAY, and was an example, nothing more. It's NOT what I'll earn for the week, not even close. So STHU, you haven't a clue what you're on about. yeah you guys.. just because kat works 4 hours doesn't mean he loses his dole money... do yeah.. he's earning plenty more.. courtesy of the tax payer !!

;D ;D ;D  K-MART paying $50 an hour to unpack bikes DONT THINK SO  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Kat's not winding down for retirement. He still smokes bongs: that's traditionally a habit that is well given up by the time a person reaches their fifties.

double plus good wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

Kat's not winding down for retirement. He still smokes bongs: that's traditionally a habit that is well given up by the time a person reaches their fifties.

what do you mean  katbuggerstick smokes boongs  ;)

aussie100percent wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 12:00pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 11:29am: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 11:26am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:24am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06am: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you? Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive. Who are you to judge?  If Kat makes enough for themselves and their family by working 4 hrs a week then that's up to Kat. Not you. He brings it on himself. and 4 hours a week is not even remotely impressive. Most high school students do more than that. The point is, forkstick, that it's NOT 4 hours a week. That's YOUR belief. And, as usual, it is devoid of the facts. My comment was what I earned YESTERDAY, and was an example, nothing more. It's NOT what I'll earn for the week, not even close. So STHU, you haven't a clue what you're on about. yeah you guys.. just because kat works 4 hours doesn't mean he loses his dole money... do yeah.. he's earning plenty more.. courtesy of the tax payer !! ;D ;D ;D  K-MART paying $50 an hour to unpack bikes DONT THINK SO  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

They don't - I don't work FOR them, I just work there.

double plus good wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

Kat's not winding down for retirement. He still smokes bongs: that's traditionally a habit that is well given up by the time a person reaches their fifties.

Idiot.

Go and see if your single braincell can find a mate.

Kat wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 12:26pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:02pm: Kat's not winding down for retirement. He still smokes bongs: that's traditionally a habit that is well given up by the time a person reaches their fifties. Idiot. Go and see if your single braincell can find a mate.

THAT WAS bloody quick your here !  ;)

Why do conservatives spend so much effort in trying to predict what everyone else does and thinks and why are they all so poor at it ?

What are you disagreeing with, Kant? You once complained about the basics card taking away your RIGHT to buy a foil, so it kan't be the bongs question.  It must be the question of your age. Either way I doubt you're over fifty. So what's your problem?

Kat is his own worst enemy by telling these tools about his life.

Dont feed the dopes Kat.

Don't talk to Kant about dope.

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

Kat is his own worst enemy by telling these tools about his life. Dont feed the dopes Kat.

Being homeless is bound to colour your perceptions and cause bitterness and anger at your life's choices.

Kat wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 12:26pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:02pm: Kat's not winding down for retirement. He still smokes bongs: that's traditionally a habit that is well given up by the time a person reaches their fifties. Idiot.

How dare you. That's Longy's post.

Now that he's gone though, I guess it's up for grabs.

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:26pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:02pm: Kat's not winding down for retirement. He still smokes bongs: that's traditionally a habit that is well given up by the time a person reaches their fifties. Idiot. How dare you. That's Longy's post. Now that he's gone though, I guess it's up for grabs.

Maria has dibs on it still.

double plus good wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 1:09pm:

What are you disagreeing with, Kant? You once complained about the basics card taking away your RIGHT to buy a foil, so it kan't be the bongs question.  It must be the question of your age. Either way I doubt you're over fifty. So what's your problem?

Go and look-up the word, 'rhetorical'.

You could also try, 'example'.

You DO know how to use a dictionary, I suppose?

Dnarever wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 3:45pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 2:06pm: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:26pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:02pm: Kat's not winding down for retirement. He still smokes bongs: that's traditionally a habit that is well given up by the time a person reaches their fifties. Idiot. How dare you. That's Longy's post. Now that he's gone though, I guess it's up for grabs. Maria has dibs on it still.

Yes, Dnarever, but I don't think Maria is qualified. Maria doesn't have basic year 9 maths, you see. She's a retired housewife.

Even if she does know about integral calculus.

Straight from the Shitten book of denials. I suppose putting bikes together just wouldn't be possible with a bong over.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 10:43am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 10:21am: I thought you said your job was permanent. Four hours is definitely a casual span of hours. I'm coming up to my twenty year long service and I work a 50 hour week. You can tell the difference in attitudes. The four hour a day bike assembler is a nasty, resentful bong frog. Yeah, Labor!!! You ever heard the term permanent part time ? Or are you aware of the wind down provisions available prior to retirement ? Do you know that limited hours can be a provision of returning to work after an injury ? Any number of explanations possible without jumping to incorrect assumptions so no 4 hr shifts are definitely not necessarily casual hours.

You have been around here long enough to know of Kats repeated whines about the dole. Clearly he is only recently off the dole or still on it with the occasional 'huge' 4 hour shift.

Kat wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 11:26am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:24am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06am: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you? Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive. Who are you to judge?  If Kat makes enough for themselves and their family by working 4 hrs a week then that's up to Kat. Not you. He brings it on himself. and 4 hours a week is not even remotely impressive. Most high school students do more than that. The point is, forkstick, that it's NOT 4 hours a week. That's YOUR belief. And, as usual, it is devoid of the facts. My comment was what I earned YESTERDAY, and was an example, nothing more. It's NOT what I'll earn for the week, not even close. So STHU, you haven't a clue what you're on about.

A more effective rebuttal would be the actual number of hours you worked but I guess saying that you workd 8 hours a week wasnt going to help your cause, right?

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 4:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:45pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 2:06pm: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:26pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:02pm: Kat's not winding down for retirement. He still smokes bongs: that's traditionally a habit that is well given up by the time a person reaches their fifties. Idiot. How dare you. That's Longy's post. Now that he's gone though, I guess it's up for grabs. Maria has dibs on it still. Yes, Dnarever, but I don't think Maria is qualified. Maria doesn't have basic year 9 maths, you see. She's a retired housewife. Even if she does know about integral calculus.

Many High School students do too. It is you - the self-proclaimed teacher - who is apparently unaware that they still teach calculus.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 4:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:45pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 2:06pm: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:26pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:02pm: Kat's not winding down for retirement. He still smokes bongs: that's traditionally a habit that is well given up by the time a person reaches their fifties. Idiot. How dare you. That's Longy's post. Now that he's gone though, I guess it's up for grabs. Maria has dibs on it still. Yes, Dnarever, but I don't think Maria is qualified. Maria doesn't have basic year 9 maths, you see. She's a retired housewife. Even if she does know about integral calculus. Many High School students do too. It is you - the self-proclaimed teacher - who is apparently unaware that they still teach calculus.

Yes, dear, but Longy gave me the honourary title of fake teacher.

IDIOT.

Karnel my dear, I dont like my best girls talking nasty to each other.

Maria can be a bit testy at times, ignore her is my advice.

Love Your Best Pal and very personal friend  ..Red

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 5:54pm:

Karnel my dear, I dont like my best girls talking nasty to each other. Maria can be a bit testy at times, ignore her is my advice. Love Your Best Pal and very personal friend  ..Red

Red and I are comrades. We go back three wars.

Maria is still only new to the board.

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 5:58pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 5:54pm: Karnel my dear, I dont like my best girls talking nasty to each other. Maria can be a bit testy at times, ignore her is my advice. Love Your Best Pal and very personal friend  ..Red Red and I are comrades. We go back three wars. Maria is still only new to the board.

Well my dear, I cannot but love a girl with those mysterious dark eyes wearing  a burka.

Ooooo it makes me shiver thinking about it.

I think I need a lie down.   ;) ;) ;)

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 6:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 5:58pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 5:54pm: Karnel my dear, I dont like my best girls talking nasty to each other. Maria can be a bit testy at times, ignore her is my advice. Love Your Best Pal and very personal friend  ..Red Red and I are comrades. We go back three wars. Maria is still only new to the board. Well my dear, I cannot but love a girl with those mysterious dark eyes wearing  a burka. Ooooo it makes me shiver thinking about it. I think I need a lie down.   ;) ;) ;)

You’re welcome to have a w@nk if you want. Don’t forget Maria.

She drives a Camry if that’s any help.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 12:39pm:

Why do conservatives spend so much effort in trying to predict what everyone else does and thinks and why are they all so poor at it ?

they're so miserable in their own lives that the only way they can make themselves feel good is by pretending everyone else has it worse.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 10:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 10:21am: I thought you said your job was permanent. Four hours is definitely a casual span of hours. I'm coming up to my twenty year long service and I work a 50 hour week. You can tell the difference in attitudes. The four hour a day bike assembler is a nasty, resentful bong frog. Yeah, Labor!!! You ever heard the term permanent part time ? Or are you aware of the wind down provisions available prior to retirement ? Do you know that limited hours can be a provision of returning to work after an injury ? Any number of explanations possible without jumping to incorrect assumptions so no 4 hr shifts are definitely not necessarily casual hours. You have been around here long enough to know of Kats repeated whines about the dole. Clearly he is only recently off the dole or still on it with the occasional 'huge' 4 hour shift.

clearly? why? because he defends the unemployed? 

you really should ask for a refund

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 5:13pm:

Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 11:26am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:39am: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:24am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06am: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:50am: An eight hour shift would straighten up Kat's attitude a bit. An 8-hour shift would probably kill you, never mind 12. Funny how those who do eff-all like to denigrate those who get things done - must be some kind of guilt-shifting. I earned over $200 for 4 hours WORK yesterday, how about you? Which would mean a lot more if you were getting paid that rate for 40 hrs/week 52 weeks a year.  But 4 hours A WEEK is unimpressive. Who are you to judge?  If Kat makes enough for themselves and their family by working 4 hrs a week then that's up to Kat. Not you. He brings it on himself. and 4 hours a week is not even remotely impressive. Most high school students do more than that. The point is, forkstick, that it's NOT 4 hours a week. That's YOUR belief. And, as usual, it is devoid of the facts. My comment was what I earned YESTERDAY, and was an example, nothing more. It's NOT what I'll earn for the week, not even close. So STHU, you haven't a clue what you're on about. A more effective rebuttal would be the actual number of hours you worked but I guess saying that you workd 8 hours a week wasnt going to help your cause, right?

you might even be in a position to critique him if you had actually worked more than 4 hrs he mentioned  :D :D :D :D :D

I swear Maria just comes to these boards to put other people down.

Her self esteem must be dreadful.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 10:43am: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 10:21am: I thought you said your job was permanent. Four hours is definitely a casual span of hours. I'm coming up to my twenty year long service and I work a 50 hour week. You can tell the difference in attitudes. The four hour a day bike assembler is a nasty, resentful bong frog. Yeah, Labor!!! You ever heard the term permanent part time ? Or are you aware of the wind down provisions available prior to retirement ? Do you know that limited hours can be a provision of returning to work after an injury ? Any number of explanations possible without jumping to incorrect assumptions so no 4 hr shifts are definitely not necessarily casual hours. You have been around here long enough to know of Kats repeated whines about the dole. Clearly he is only recently off the dole or still on it with the occasional 'huge' 4 hour shift.

Once again, dumbass... since you didn't seem to grasp the concept the first time.


Quote:

Corkhead, I support a ferking footy team too, but that doesn't mean I play.

mothra wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 6:59pm:

I swear Maria just comes to these boards to put other people down. Her self esteem must be dreadful.

You actually think she has self esteem?

I reckon it comes from years of hubby telling her how dumb she is. She should speak up. Afterall, Domestic violence is a hot topic this week

Unemployed people would hate to have Kant as their defence counsel.

Vote for Bill Shorten -

to pay $40 for a packet of cigarettes.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 8:28pm:

Vote for Bill Shorten - to pay $40 for a packet of cigarettes.

Don't be nieve booby, every party puts up cigarettes .... when was the last time any party served a full term without raising the tax on smokes?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 8:28pm:

Vote for Bill Shorten - to pay $40 for a packet of cigarettes.

don't smoke..

smoking is only for social outcasts..  ;D

as for the rest of the dribble the labrats have been going on about in this thread.. it just goes to prove that only an idiot would vote for Bill Shorten, and, that there's plenty of them about on this forum...  :D

by the way..

by Bull Shittens own standards, he should knife himself in the back and instate a new Labor Leader..

John Smith wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 8:28pm: Vote for Bill Shorten - to pay $40 for a packet of cigarettes. Don't be naive booby, every party puts up cigarettes .... when was the last time any party served a full term without raising the tax on smokes?

I read somewhere that a higher percentage of Labor voters smoke.
This means that food will be denied to poor children to pay for cigarettes.

That shows you how out of touch Bill Shorten is with Labor voters.

Shorten is an idiot & the worst Labor leader they have ever had.

John Smith wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 7:06pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:59pm: I swear Maria just comes to these boards to put other people down. Her self esteem must be dreadful. You actually think she has self esteem? I reckon it comes from years of hubby telling her how dumb she is. She should speak up. Afterall, Domestic violence is a hot topic this week

Hubby drives off to work in the Merc while Maria has to squeeze into that awful Camry for her tennis and golf dates with the gals.

Maria is definitely the victim here.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 8:28pm:

Vote for Bill Shorten - to pay $40 for a packet of cigarettes.

Vote Malcontent Fullofbull.

$40 Cigarettes via GST increase plus cost increase to everything else as well.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 8:59pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 8:28pm: Vote for Bill Shorten - to pay $40 for a packet of cigarettes. Don't be naive booby, every party puts up cigarettes .... when was the last time any party served a full term without raising the tax on smokes? I read somewhere that a higher percentage of Labor voters smoke. This means that food will be denied to poor children to pay for cigarettes. That shows you how out of touch Bill Shorten is with Labor voters. Shorten is an idiot & the worst Labor leader they have ever had.

I read somewhere that you're a daft twit.

I guess thats must be right.

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06pm: mothra wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:59pm: I swear Maria just comes to these boards to put other people down. Her self esteem must be dreadful. You actually think she has self esteem? I reckon it comes from years of hubby telling her how dumb she is. She should speak up. Afterall, Domestic violence is a hot topic this week Hubby drives off to work in the Merc while Maria has to squeeze into that awful Camry for her tennis and golf dates with the gals. Maria is definitely the victim here.

She sure is. I wonder if she can claim compo from the govt.

John Smith wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 10:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 9:04pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 8:59pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 8:28pm: Vote for Bill Shorten - to pay $40 for a packet of cigarettes. Don't be naive booby, every party puts up cigarettes .... when was the last time any party served a full term without raising the tax on smokes? I read somewhere that a higher percentage of Labor voters smoke. This means that food will be denied to poor children to pay for cigarettes. That shows you how out of touch Bill Shorten is with Labor voters. Shorten is an idiot & the worst Labor leader they have ever had. I read somewhere that you're a daft twit. I guess thats must be right.

Gee wizz - where did you read that?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 10:23pm:

Gee wizz - where did you read that?

several people have posted it on here

John Smith wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 10:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 9:17pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06pm: mothra wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:59pm: I swear Maria just comes to these boards to put other people down. Her self esteem must be dreadful. You actually think she has self esteem? I reckon it comes from years of hubby telling her how dumb she is. She should speak up. Afterall, Domestic violence is a hot topic this week Hubby drives off to work in the Merc while Maria has to squeeze into that awful Camry for her tennis and golf dates with the gals. Maria is definitely the victim here. She sure is. I wonder if she can claim compo from the govt.

She’s entitled to a pension, so why not?

The rich pay it ALL.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 10:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 10:20pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 9:04pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 8:59pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 8:28pm: Vote for Bill Shorten - to pay $40 for a packet of cigarettes. Don't be naive booby, every party puts up cigarettes .... when was the last time any party served a full term without raising the tax on smokes? I read somewhere that a higher percentage of Labor voters smoke. This means that food will be denied to poor children to pay for cigarettes. That shows you how out of touch Bill Shorten is with Labor voters. Shorten is an idiot & the worst Labor leader they have ever had. I read somewhere that you're a daft twit. I guess thats must be right. Gee wizz - where did you read that?

probably from his own dribble bobby...

we all know that John Smith - aka Dopey Smurf - has little or no intelligent input on this forum..

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 5:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 10:23pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 10:20pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 9:04pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 8:59pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 8:28pm: Vote for Bill Shorten - to pay $40 for a packet of cigarettes. Don't be naive booby, every party puts up cigarettes .... when was the last time any party served a full term without raising the tax on smokes? I read somewhere that a higher percentage of Labor voters smoke. This means that food will be denied to poor children to pay for cigarettes. That shows you how out of touch Bill Shorten is with Labor voters. Shorten is an idiot & the worst Labor leader they have ever had. I read somewhere that you're a daft twit. I guess thats must be right. Gee wizz - where did you read that? probably from his own dribble bobby... we all know that John Smith - aka Dopey Smurf - has little or no intelligent input on this forum..

Yes - Smith is just a troll so we should probably ignore him.

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 5:27pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 5:16pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 4:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:45pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 2:06pm: Kat wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:26pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 12:02pm: Kat's not winding down for retirement. He still smokes bongs: that's traditionally a habit that is well given up by the time a person reaches their fifties. Idiot. How dare you. That's Longy's post. Now that he's gone though, I guess it's up for grabs. Maria has dibs on it still. Yes, Dnarever, but I don't think Maria is qualified. Maria doesn't have basic year 9 maths, you see. She's a retired housewife. Even if she does know about integral calculus. Many High School students do too. It is you - the self-proclaimed teacher - who is apparently unaware that they still teach calculus. Yes, dear, but Longy gave me the honourary title of fake teacher. IDIOT.

Oh I don't think it is honorary at all. I would say it is a proven fact given the deplorable knowledge of High School curriculum.

mothra wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 6:59pm:

I swear Maria just comes to these boards to put other people down. Her self esteem must be dreadful.

My self esteem is quite fine. Why don't you ask people like kytro. I can disagree with him and he with me and then move on. The difference is that he is smart, understands how to construct an argument and provides solid information. He is a good debater. You - and some like you - are just plain dumb and ignorant.  And I say so. Impolite perhaps... but not wrong.

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06pm: mothra wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:59pm: I swear Maria just comes to these boards to put other people down. Her self esteem must be dreadful. You actually think she has self esteem? I reckon it comes from years of hubby telling her how dumb she is. She should speak up. Afterall, Domestic violence is a hot topic this week Hubby drives off to work in the Merc while Maria has to squeeze into that awful Camry for her tennis and golf dates with the gals. Maria is definitely the victim here.

I actually prefer the camry. it is roomier and easier to drive.  I am not a 'car person' so I am more interested in function than high performance.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 7:56am:

mothra wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:59pm: I swear Maria just comes to these boards to put other people down. Her self esteem must be dreadful. My self esteem is quite fine. Why don't you ask people like kytro. I can disagree with him and he with me and then move on. The difference is that he is smart, understands how to construct an argument and provides solid information. He is a good debater. You - and some like you - are just plain dumb and ignorant.  And I say so. Impolite perhaps... but not wrong.

Why dont you yourself meet good debating standards then?

mariacostel wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 7:56am:

mothra wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:59pm: I swear Maria just comes to these boards to put other people down. Her self esteem must be dreadful. My self esteem is quite fine. Why don't you ask people like kytro. I can disagree with him and he with me and then move on. The difference is that he is smart, understands how to construct an argument and provides solid information. He is a good debater. You - and some like you - are just plain dumb and ignorant.  And I say so. Impolite perhaps... but not wrong.

You are rude to everybody Maria. The way you talk to Kat and Aussie is disgusting. You are simply a miserable human being.

As for being dumb, why do i then keep besting you in debate? Without the need for name calling and simply making things up as you do?

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2015 at 10:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 10:22pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 9:17pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 7:06pm: mothra wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:59pm: I swear Maria just comes to these boards to put other people down. Her self esteem must be dreadful. You actually think she has self esteem? I reckon it comes from years of hubby telling her how dumb she is. She should speak up. Afterall, Domestic violence is a hot topic this week Hubby drives off to work in the Merc while Maria has to squeeze into that awful Camry for her tennis and golf dates with the gals. Maria is definitely the victim here. She sure is. I wonder if she can claim compo from the govt. She’s entitled to a pension, so why not? The rich pay it ALL.

If you include Longy she is probably entitled to two pensions.

'Cause Kant and Aussie are charm personified!
;D ;D ;D

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 7:59am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 7:56am: mothra wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:59pm: I swear Maria just comes to these boards to put other people down. Her self esteem must be dreadful. My self esteem is quite fine. Why don't you ask people like kytro. I can disagree with him and he with me and then move on. The difference is that he is smart, understands how to construct an argument and provides solid information. He is a good debater. You - and some like you - are just plain dumb and ignorant.  And I say so. Impolite perhaps... but not wrong. Why dont you yourself meet good debating standards then?

How would I do that?  good debating requires at least TWO good debaters. Usually, that is too difficult or there are 2-3 good ones and 15 imbeciles (like you) jumping into the fray.

mothra wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:04am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 7:56am: mothra wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:59pm: I swear Maria just comes to these boards to put other people down. Her self esteem must be dreadful. My self esteem is quite fine. Why don't you ask people like kytro. I can disagree with him and he with me and then move on. The difference is that he is smart, understands how to construct an argument and provides solid information. He is a good debater. You - and some like you - are just plain dumb and ignorant.  And I say so. Impolite perhaps... but not wrong. You are rude to everybody Maria. The way you talk to Kat and Aussie is disgusting. You are simply a miserable human being. As for being dumb, why do i then keep besting you in debate? Without the need for name calling and simply making things up as you do?

Kat and Aussie ARE disgusting or are you the only person who hasnt noticed that?

As for your self-congratulation... it says more about your paucity of character and intelligence than anything I could say.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 5:09pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 8:04am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 7:56am: mothra wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 6:59pm: I swear Maria just comes to these boards to put other people down. Her self esteem must be dreadful. My self esteem is quite fine. Why don't you ask people like kytro. I can disagree with him and he with me and then move on. The difference is that he is smart, understands how to construct an argument and provides solid information. He is a good debater. You - and some like you - are just plain dumb and ignorant.  And I say so. Impolite perhaps... but not wrong. You are rude to everybody Maria. The way you talk to Kat and Aussie is disgusting. You are simply a miserable human being. As for being dumb, why do i then keep besting you in debate? Without the need for name calling and simply making things up as you do? Kat and Aussie ARE disgusting or are you the only person who hasnt noticed that? As for your self-congratulation... it says more about your paucity of character and intelligence than anything I could say.

There is no excuse to belittle them for what they do for a living. It is just snobbery.

And Maria, you might want to tone down on the ad hominems and the whole just making stuff up if you want to be taken seriously as a debater.