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Message started by it_is_the_light on Nov 21st, 2015 at 11:31pm

Title: US Created Terror
Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 21st, 2015 at 11:31pm
http://www.globalresearch.ca/bashar-al-assad-interview-al-qaeda-was-created-by-the-americans-with-the-help-of-saudi-wahhabi-money-turkey-saudi-arabia-qatar-support-isis/5490372

Bashar Al-Assad Interview: “Al Qaeda was Created by the Americans With the Help of Saudi Wahhabi Money”. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar Support ISIS

By SANA
Global Research, November 20, 2015
TV Channel RAI UNO 19 November 2015



Damascus, SANA-President Bashar al-Assad gave an interview to Italian TV channel RAI UNO. Below you will find the full transcript of this interview:

Question 1: Mr. President, thanks for the opportunity of talking to you. Let’s start from Paris. How did you react to the news coming from Paris?

President Assad: We can start by saying it’s a horrible crime, and at the same time it’s a sad event when you hear about innocents being killed without any reason and for nothing, and we understand in Syria the meaning of losing a dear member of the family or a dear friend, or anyone you know, in such a horrible crime. We’ve been suffering from that for the past five years. We feel for the French as we feel for the Lebanese a few days before that, and for the Russians regarding the airplane that’s been shot down over Sinai, and for the Yemenis maybe, but does the world, especially the West, feel for those people, or only for the French? Do they feel for the Syrians that have been suffering for five years from the same kind of terrorism? We cannot politicize feeling, feeling is not about the nationality, it’s about the human in general.

Question 2: There’s Daesh behind that. But from here, from this point of view, from here from Damascus, how strong Daesh is? How do you think we can fight terrorists on the ground?

President al-Assad: ISIS has no incubator in Syria

President Assad: If you want to talk about the strength of Daesh, the first thing you have to ask is how much incubator, real incubator, natural incubator, you have in a certain society. Till this moment, I can tell you Daesh doesn’t have the natural incubator, social incubator, within Syria. This is something very good and very assuring, but at the same time, if it’s becoming chronic, this kind of ideology can change the society.

Question 3: Yes, but some of the terrorists were trained here, in Syria, just a few kilometers from here. What does it mean?

President Assad: That’s by the support of the Turks and the Saudi and Qatari and of course the Western policy that supported the terrorists in different ways since the beginning of the crisis, of course, but that’s not the issue. First of all, if you don’t have the incubator, you shouldn’t worry, but second, they can be strong as long as they have strong support from different states, whether Middle Eastern states or Western states.

Question 4: Mr. President, there are speculations in the West, that say that you were one of who supported Daesh in the beginning of the crisis, because of dividing the opposition, because of dividing the rebels. How do you react?

President al-Assad:Al Qaeda was created by the Americans

President Assad: Actually, according to what some American officials said, including Hillary Clinton, Al Qaeda was created by the Americans with the help of Saudi Wahabi money and ideology, and of course, many other officials said the same in the United States. And ISIS and al-Nusra, they are offshoots of Al Qaeda. Regarding ISIS, it started in Iraq, it was established in Iraq in 2006, and the leader was al-Zarqawi who was killed by the American forces then, so it was established under the American supervision in Iraq, and the leader of ISIS today, who is called Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, he was in the American prisons, and he was put in New York in their prisons, and he was released by them. So, it wasn’t in Syria, it didn’t start in Syria, it started in Iraq, and it started before that in Afghanistan according to what they said, and Tony Blair recently said that yes, the Iraqi war helped create ISIS. So, their confession is the most important evidence regarding your question.

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 21st, 2015 at 11:33pm

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by sedi on Nov 21st, 2015 at 11:39pm
Oh look its jmcare with his light hate on ::)

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 21st, 2015 at 11:54pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef2ifTaatbs

ISIS Invasion All By Design

Published on Nov 20, 2015
Zbigniew Brzezinski’s world dominating elitist management of Eurasia is completing its final maneuvers on the Grand Chessboard. As the United States hijacked world superpower government veers down the path to an engineered final endgame towards completion of a corporcratic New World Order. The primacy of the last remaining superpower i.e. the United States and the importance of destabilization in the Middle East and the acquisition of the wealth of Eurasia. Has reached its summit. Now, the next phase is being unleashed on an unsuspecting populous.

In the words of Albert Pike Satanist, Ku Klux Klan founder, and revered prophet of the New World Order. “…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

But there is hope. Perhaps the mechanization of order out of chaos is caving in upon itself. The time to awaken the sleeping giant has arrived.

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by Setanta on Nov 21st, 2015 at 11:59pm

wiseguy wrote on Nov 21st, 2015 at 11:39pm:
Oh look its jmcare with his light hate on ::)


It's E.T.s fault. It's a mistranslation of heart light.

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by freediver on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 8:40am
Whatever happens, Muslims are the victims and America is at fault.

Always. Absolutely. Never-ever.

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 8:44am

freediver wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 8:40am:
Whatever happens, Muslims are the victims and America is at fault.

Always. Absolutely. Never-ever.


many blessings freediver

yet this marine explains what many know already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0KfAqu1KOM

the US funds the terror group IS with their yank military hardware,paid and drugged up mercinaries and weapons

you of and in due course with no doubt

have seen their shiney 4WD's and US humvees

yet either way

be at peace

namaste

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by issuevoter on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 8:52am
The Saudi Wahhabis' money is more or less correct, but it only took advantage of the frustration among Middle Eastern populations when they saw the humiliation of their military in the 1960s and later. It was the end of Gadhafi style military Pan Arabism. At that point the ayatollahs and other witch-doctors of Islam seize public attention with long harangues against the evils of Western influence on their young people. Where some educated MEs were developing progressive views, they were quickly swamped by ignorant populations turning to Mohamed's little book for solace.

As for Assad's assertion that the USA created Al Q. You could look it that way, but it is convoluted, and it gives a huge amount of credit to the Americans who had no particular view on Islam when they were playing Chess with the Soviets in the cold war. And to say the US admin suddenly turned around and set its sights on Islam is just childish. We can dismiss Assad's obvious attempt to discredit his most vocal opponent. Personally, I am glad the Russians have come to his aid. While he is a villain, so is every other authority in the ME.

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by freediver on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 8:54am
Shall we forgive them their shiny cars?

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 9:02am
master Light has a point -

it does seem strange that a rag tag army of  30,000 Muslims can take on the whole world
& have us all living in fear.

It doesn't make sense -

I mean the Yanks have at least 4 aircraft carriers in the Middle East -
plus access to many land air bases -

they could level Raqqah & Mosul in about 2 days of conventional bombing.

Let's see if the French & the Russians can get rid of them as they have joined forces now.

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by freediver on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 9:08am
We have been trying to figure out which side to take for a few years. Remember the "they are all baddies" speech? No-one wants to go in and babysit them towards civilisation. Originally we were hoping to get rid of Assad, but the Russians recently decided he is a better option than ISIS, and it looks like the rest are following.

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 9:12am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYONiyG-CZk

ISIS = MOSSAD

here is some truth from 1990 ...

why does IS never attack israel ????????

think first then speak beloved beings

namaste

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 9:26am

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 21st, 2015 at 11:31pm:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/bashar-al-assad-interview-al-qaeda-was-created-by-the-americans-with-the-help-of-saudi-wahhabi-money-turkey-saudi-arabia-qatar-support-isis/5490372

Bashar Al-Assad Interview: “Al Qaeda was Created by the Americans With the Help of Saudi Wahhabi Money”. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar Support ISIS



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Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by Marla on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 9:35am
Please stop with posting your lame Alex Jone$ rhetoric.


Hippie.

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 10:05am

Marla wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 9:35am:
Please stop with posting your lame Alex Jone$ rhetoric.


Hippie.



Hey Marla,
how come a skinny chick like you - munching a sandwich -
from the other side of the world
posts on an Australian political forum?

with curiosity

namaste

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 11:55am

Marla wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 9:35am:
Please stop with posting your lame Alex Jone$ rhetoric.


Hippie.


these are facts

there is no alex jones on this video ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYONiyG-CZk

ISIS = MOSSAD

here is some truth from 1990 ...

why does IS never attack israel ????????

namaste

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:06pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 11:55am:

Marla wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 9:35am:
Please stop with posting your lame Alex Jone$ rhetoric.


Hippie.


these are facts

there is no alex jones on this video ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYONiyG-CZk

ISIS = MOSSAD

here is some truth from 1990 ...

why does IS never attack israel ????????

namaste



Pure coincidence which is forgiven as ISIS stands for

Islamic State in Syria.

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by issuevoter on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:42pm
Bobby, it is not Australia. It is cyber space. Do you only contribute to forums from Australian sources?

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:46pm

issuevoter wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:42pm:
Bobby, it is not Australia. It is cyber space. Do you only contribute to forums from Australian sources?



You sound like Dennis Hopper:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5JXrP8yv8o

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by issuevoter on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:59pm
It is an interesting perspective. Here is an OP-Ed from the New York Times, a more level headed view than the sensationalism Light Boy finds so thrilling.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/21/opinion/saudi-arabia-an-isis-that-has-made-it.html?_r=1

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by jmjcare on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 11:19pm
“Frighten the West”: The Israeli Roots of Terrorism

Updated November 21, 2015

“How does it feel, in the light of all that’s going on, to be the father of terrorism in the Middle East?”
“In the Middle East?” he [Begin] bellowed, in his thick, cartoon accent. “In all the world!”
- Russell Warren Howe interview with Menachem Begin, January 1974

He [Pinhas Lavon] inspired and cultivated the negative adventuristic trend in the army and preached the doctrine that not the Arab countries but the Western Powers are the enemy, and the only way to deter them from their plots is through direct actions that will terrorize them.
- Israeli prime minister Moshe Sharett in 1955 writing about Pinhas Lavon, defense minister during the “Lavon Affair,” an Israeli false-flag terrorist bombing campaign against U.S. and British agencies in Egypt, July 1954.

The “War on Terror” is a massive fraud based on deception and illusion. As long as Western governments and societies allow themselves to be deceived about the true nature of terrorism, the “War on Terror” and the threat it is meant to eradicate will only get worse.  For our political leaders and media to go along with false-flag deceptions and to slog away at phantoms is to ensure that the “War on Terror” will go on for a very long time.  The only way to liberate ourselves and our nations from this madness is to expose the true source of terrorism.

So, here we are, fourteen years after 9-11, having waged two wars of aggression in which millions of lives have been ruined, having endured the imposition of draconian “anti-terrorism” legislation, and having wasted trillions in the “War on Terror” – and still there is no end in sight. 

In spite of all this effort and money spent, the threat of global terrorism seems to gaining strength every day, as we can see from the recent downing of the Russian plane in the Sinai and the attacks in Paris. Clearly, we must be doing something wrong.

It should be obvious to anyone who thinks about terrorism and the global “War on Terror” that we have utterly failed to understand and address the root causes of terrorism.  This is true whether we are talking about false-flag terrorism, such as 9-11, or real ‘terrorism’, such as what we see when Palestinians take up arms against the Israeli occupation.

In the latter case, our leaders and the so-called “international community” have completely failed to address the grievous injustices suffered by the Palestinians living under Israeli occupation since 1948.

The day after the recent attacks in Paris, Margot Wallstrom, the Swedish foreign minister, appeared on Swedish TV and explained how the Israeli occupation was at the root of Palestinian violence, saying, “… you come back to situations like that in the Middle East where not least the Palestinians see that there isn't any future (for them). (The Palestinians) either have to accept a desperate situation or resort to violence."

Unfortunately, there are few politicians in the Western world who are willing to articulate such common-sense truths, and even fewer who are willing to do something about it.  Because the global community has failed to put pressure on Israel, the Zionist occupation has grown and intensified creating an unjust situation that produces violence, as it will until an equitable solution is found.

As for false-flag terrorism, such as 9-11 and other atrocities, there is an appalling lack of moral courage on the part of world leaders to stand up and say that we have been deceived about what happened on 9-11. The failure on the part of our political, religious, and academic leaders to challenge the false narrative of 9-11 has enabled the fraudulent “War on Terror” to go on, at great expense to our nations and societies.

Rather than demanding an investigation of 9-11 and working from what the evidence proved, our leaders allowed themselves to be deceived into war based on false media reports and lies from government officials.  The fact that the ‘crime of the century’ was not even investigated as a crime does not seem to disturb the political and media elites in the United States. A false narrative was prepared ahead of time, as were military assets, and the war in Afghanistan began before the dust had even settled at the World Trade Center.  The French military response after the recent attacks in Paris was even hastier, coming only two days later.

Today, fourteen years after 9-11, the terrorism that we are experiencing is beginning to look very much like that depicted in the Israeli-produced film, Brazil.  This film, produced in 1985 by Arnon Milchan, Israel’s super-agent in Hollywood, is set in a bleak society in the future where senseless acts of terrorism occur frequently as the government wages war against terrorists in some distant land.  Why did Milchan make this movie?  Where did he get these ideas from?

We need to understand that Arnon Milchan is not just another Mossad agent in Hollywood; he is at the very top of the Israeli state intelligence/criminal network.  In the Israeli-written biography, Confidential:  The Life Of Secret Agent Turned Hollywood Tycoon (2011), it is revealed how Milchan was involved in espionage, big-ticket arms-dealing, and obtaining sensitive technology and materials for Israel's nuclear weapons program.

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by jmjcare on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 11:23pm
Interviewed regarding Milchan's intelligence activities, Israeli President Shimon Peres stated:

Arnon is a special man. It was I who recruited him… When I was at the Ministry of Defense, Arnon was involved in numerous defense-related procurement activities and intelligence operations. His strength is in making connections at the highest levels… His activities gave us a huge advantage, strategically, diplomatically and technologically.

The authors established that "at least through the mid-1980s [Milchan] was a full-fledged operative for Israel’s top-secret intelligence agency, Lakam. His activities included "buying components to build and maintain Israel’s nuclear arsenal" and supervising "government-backed accounts and front companies that financed the special needs of the entirety of Israel’s intelligence operations outside the country."

Milchan clearly occupies a position at the very top of Israeli intelligence.  Although he was at the center of an operation that smuggled hundreds of triggers for nuclear bombs to Israel, he was never prosecuted, while the people beneath him were.

The terrorism in Milchan’s film Brazil made in the 1980s shows amazing prescience of our world today.  Milchan showed similar prescience of the events of 9-11 in his first film, The Medusa Touch (1978), in which a Boeing 747 crashes into a skyscraper.  Later, in 2000, a remotely-hijacked aircraft is flown into the World Trade Center in the pilot episode of “The Lone Gunmen,” a television series produced by Arnon Milchan’s close friend and business partner, Rupert Murdoch.

Arnon Milchan, the Mossad Mogul of Hollywood, didn't dream up these terror scenarios on his own.  These plots are based on what Milchan knew about the future plans of Israeli intelligence. He is, after all, a very close personal friend of Shimon Peres, the godfather and chief architect of Israel’s high-tech military and unlawful nuclear arsenal.

More to the point, Shimon Peres has always supported the use of terror to coerce the West to support Israel’s strategic goals. As Israel’s prime minister Moshe Sharett wrote about Shimon Peres in 1955:  “he wants to frighten the West into supporting Israel’s aims.”

As I prove in my Solving 9-11 books, the false-flag terrorism of 9-11 was an Israeli idea from the beginning, first articulated by a former head of the Mossad in the 1970s.  At the same time that Isser Harel was describing how Arab terrorists would attack the tallest towers in New York City, Benjamin Netanyahu was holding an international conference of Western leaders in Jerusalem (1979) to promote the global “War on Terror.” Both concepts are the products of Israeli strategic planners.

Today, Benjamin Netanyahu is the prime minister of Israel and his fraudulent “War on Terror” is in full swing.  Western nations, including France, who seek to overthrow the elected government of Syria, are lining up to bomb a besieged nation that is virtually defenseless.  The French military has now reacted to an unsolved act of terrorism by bombing Syria, as the United States bombed Afghanistan in October 2001 – without presenting any evidence to prove that the true source of the Paris attacks is from Syria.

The day after the attacks in Paris, French President François Hollande said, "An act of war was committed by a terrorist army, DAESH [ISIS], a jihadist army, against France… An act of war prepared, planned, from outside, with outside complicity which an investigation will establish."

This is almost identical to statements from U.S. leaders after 9-11 who took the nation to war saying that evidence to support their case would be presented in the near future.  In the fourteen years since the invasion of Afghanistan, however, we have not seen one piece of evidence linking the Taliban with the events of 9-11. Our government and media were willing partners in the criminal deception that took the U.S. military into Afghanistan.

From the little we know about the terrorists in Paris, there is certainly not enough evidence to warrant a massive bombing campaign in Syria.  For all we know the terrorists could have been controlled by a non-Syrian agency who wants France to bomb Syria. Now that the French police have killed Abdel Hamid Abaaoud, the Moroccan-Belgian who is said to be the mastermind of the attacks, there will be less information available to find the true source of the terrorism.

We can’t accept that our leaders take our nations to war based merely on deceptions and illusions.  We will never end terrorism and the fraudulent “War on Terror” by lashing out at the terrorist Bogeyman and destroying nations in the process.  The only way to end the fraudulent “War on Terror” is by exposing who is really behind terrorism and ending the deception.

http://www.bollyn.com/#article_15333

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by Wiseguy on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 11:29pm

What a sick mentally derange little man you are light.

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by jmjcare on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 10:01pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBEsJwR0VVU

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:02am
https://www.rt.com/uk/312840-ISIS-funding-west-Rusi/

ISIS funding rooted in West, says UK analyst

Published time: 19 Aug, 2015 14:25



Shadowy pockets of the financial sector, NGOs and charities are increasingly vulnerable to “terrorist financing abuse” as lone actors seek to unleash domestic terror attacks, a British analyst says.

Tom Keatinge, director at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) Center for Financial Crime and Security Studies, argues the West’s strategy for disrupting terrorist financing is short-sighted.

In a piece of analysis published on Monday, the ex-City of London banker said the world’s most pressing “terrorist finance risk” lies closer to home than Western counter-terror policy acknowledges.

Keatinge argued operations to disrupt terror-related financial flows presume the illicit funds’ sources are located in some far-flung destination, but in reality may are rooted in the West.

https://youtu.be/3EDA_jFRvSY

The ex-financer, who joined RUSI in 2014, says growing evidence suggests “so-called lone actors” are seeking to unleash terror attacks in their home countries.

“Whilst moving money across borders to Daesh [Islamic State] from countries in Europe has become increasingly challenging, raising small amounts of legitimate funding for homeland attacks remains frighteningly easy,” he said.

The ex-City banker stressed pay day lenders and student loans – in addition to NGOs and charitable fundraising – are vulnerable to terrorist infiltration.

“For those planning terrorist attacks, the high interest rates on such products are of no consequence,” he said.

“These sums may seem small, but individual attacks are ‘cheap’ to fund – the 7/7 bombings in London are estimated to have cost less than £8,000 [US$12,500], including trips overseas in preparation.”

https://youtu.be/hbFegK51LWg

Keatinge also noted cash is fraudulently accessed in states like Britain and funneled to terrorists abroad. In November, Scotland’s counter-terror chief Terri Nicholson echoed this view when he warned Britain’s welfare system had been infiltrated by terrorists in the Middle East.

In February, a campaign group stationed in Syria said illicit oil trading, illegal drugs and internet cafes were lucrative sources of funding for Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS). The campaign group further claimed clandestine deals with Syria’s Assad regime were in operation at the time to sell the Syrian government gas and electricity that was under IS control.

In September, a report produced by US intelligence officials and other experts found the IS is wealthier than any other terror group in history.

The study said the group pocketed more than $3 million per day from oil sales, and also earned large sums from human trafficking and extortion.

Title: Re: US Created Terror
Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 24th, 2015 at 9:54am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiTzH2SIEbs

ISIS' #1 Backer Revealed

Published on Nov 23, 2015
Alex Jones talks with Infowars reporter Paul Joseph Watson about how ISIS is being funded and who is doing it.

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