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Message started by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 21st, 2015 at 6:16pm

Title: supercapacitors
Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 21st, 2015 at 6:16pm
supercapacitors: There a pretty good chance that the next time you buy an automobile, even if it's not an EV, it's going to have a supercapacitor in it

source: http://www.maxwell.com/solutions/transportation/auto/start-stop-micro-hybrid

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Yes, change is afoot  :-? :-?

Title: Re: supercapacitors
Post by Pho Huc on Nov 27th, 2015 at 11:17am
Im more interested in Aluminium/lithium air battery tech. that's the game changer.

British researchers just finished testing a alu/O2 thats retains 95% of its capacity after 100 charge/discharge cycles.

It has an energy density comparable to gasoline, since electric is so much more efficient from thermodynamic standpoint its effectively twice as good.   

Title: Re: supercapacitors
Post by Daleks_net_MUST_EXTERMINATE on Nov 27th, 2015 at 1:58pm

Pho Huc wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 11:17am:
Im more interested in Aluminium/lithium air battery tech. that's the game changer.

British researchers just finished testing a alu/O2 thats retains 95% of its capacity after 100 charge/discharge cycles.

It has an energy density comparable to gasoline, since electric is so much more efficient from thermodynamic standpoint its effectively twice as good.   

- how long a life does 100 discharges represent?

Title: Re: supercapacitors
Post by crocodile on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:03pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 1:58pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 11:17am:
Im more interested in Aluminium/lithium air battery tech. that's the game changer.

British researchers just finished testing a alu/O2 thats retains 95% of its capacity after 100 charge/discharge cycles.

It has an energy density comparable to gasoline, since electric is so much more efficient from thermodynamic standpoint its effectively twice as good.   

- how long a life does 100 discharges represent?


Haven't time to check right now but I'm almost sure that Aluminium - air batteries are not rechargeable.

Title: Re: supercapacitors
Post by Pho Huc on Dec 12th, 2015 at 11:32pm
The battery could last many years in a charged state(depending on construction) and is 100% deep cycle.

100 discharge cycles isn't a time frame, rather a measure of how often they can be recharged- A lithium battery can get around 500 cycles before hitting the wall.

Its a big step up over previous aluminum/air tech batteries which could only manage a single discharge cycle before the anode got gunked up and they stopped working(which is what Crocodile is referring to).

Title: Re: supercapacitors
Post by John_Taverner on Jan 17th, 2016 at 9:58pm

crocodile wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 2:03pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 1:58pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 11:17am:
Im more interested in Aluminium/lithium air battery tech. that's the game changer.

British researchers just finished testing a alu/O2 thats retains 95% of its capacity after 100 charge/discharge cycles.

It has an energy density comparable to gasoline, since electric is so much more efficient from thermodynamic standpoint its effectively twice as good.   

- how long a life does 100 discharges represent?


Haven't time to check right now but I'm almost sure that Aluminium - air batteries are not rechargeable.

They are rechargeable only mechanically-by replacing the aluminium.

Battery storage is the subject of major confusion amongst energy suppliers. If we ever get to the stage of energy trading by domestic generators, then batteries will become really viable. Until then, we'll have to wait until the suppliers catch up..


Title: Re: supercapacitors
Post by Sir lastnail on Jan 31st, 2016 at 5:41pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 21st, 2015 at 6:16pm:
supercapacitors: There a pretty good chance that the next time you buy an automobile, even if it's not an EV, it's going to have a supercapacitor in it

source: http://www.maxwell.com/solutions/transportation/auto/start-stop-micro-hybrid

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Yes, change is afoot  :-? :-?


what are you talking about. The CSIRO used supercaps in its hybrid E-Commodore way back in 2000 when it was subsequenly mothballed into a Museum because Holden said the public were not ready for it so kept making gas guzzling Commodore heaps of sh.t !!





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