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Message started by John Smith on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:35am

Title: libs taking developers bribes
Post by John Smith on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:35am
A prominent Northern Territory developer has been selected as the preferred tenderer of an area of "prime Crown land" near Darwin.

Annual donor returns to the Australian Electoral Commission revealed Halikos donated $100,000 to the Country Liberals (CLP) and $90,000 to Labor, in 2012-13.

In that same year, director John Halikos also made a personal $50,000 donation to the CLP.

Northern Territory Electoral Commission records show Labor received a $10,000 donation in the last two financial years worth of published data for donors – but the CLP received a total of $200,000 from the company and Mr Halikos in that same period.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-04/halikos-wins-berrimah-farm-development-tender/6909762

It's time they banned political donations

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by Swagman on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:38am
So are union fees going to be banned as well in Smithville?  :D


Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by John Smith on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:43am
you keep asking the same dumb question Swag ... what's the matter? memory failing you?

They should ban ALL political donations to individuals or to parties.

If someone wants to donate because they are altruistic to they can donate to a govt pool, where the money is then distributed across to all parties by an third party on a pro rata basis so that no one owes anyone any favors

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by Kytro on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:01am
Donations will not be banned outright, due to the High Court ruling.

However, they can be banned in specific cases, due to a different High Court ruling.


Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by Maqqa on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:24am
Who assessed the tender?

If you think the tender process is flawed - lets see your evidence

If you think it's biased - lets see the evidence.

Last but not least it's interesting the article does not show who the 2nd and 3rd tenderers are and how much they contributed

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by Bam on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:41am

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:43am:
you keep asking the same dumb question Swag ... what's the matter? memory failing you?

They should ban ALL political donations to individuals or to parties.

If someone wants to donate because they are altruistic to they can donate to a govt pool, where the money is then distributed across to all parties by an third party on a pro rata basis so that no one owes anyone any favors

Agree

We're not likely to see any change though, the rich and powerful like to keep the current system.

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by John Smith on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:57am

Maqqa wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:24am:
Who assessed the tender?

If you think the tender process is flawed - lets see your evidence

If you think it's biased - lets see the evidence.

Last but not least it's interesting the article does not show who the 2nd and 3rd tenderers are and how much they contributed


lets see the evidence? really Gumpy? that's your answer?  ;D ;D ;D

you think if I ask nicely the govt. will show me every tender application they received?

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by John Smith on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:58am

Maqqa wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:24am:
Last but not least it's interesting the article does not show who the 2nd and 3rd tenderers are and how much they contributed



so because everyone is trying to bribe their way into a govt. contract that makes it OK?  :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:24am

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:35am:
A prominent Northern Territory developer has been selected as the preferred tenderer of an area of "prime Crown land" near Darwin.

Annual donor returns to the Australian Electoral Commission revealed Halikos donated $100,000 to the Country Liberals (CLP) and $90,000 to Labor, in 2012-13.

In that same year, director John Halikos also made a personal $50,000 donation to the CLP.

Northern Territory Electoral Commission records show Labor received a $10,000 donation in the last two financial years worth of published data for donors – but the CLP received a total of $200,000 from the company and Mr Halikos in that same period.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-04/halikos-wins-berrimah-farm-development-tender/6909762

It's time they banned political donations


So this developer gives practically the same amount of money to both major parties and all of a sudden the Liberals are taking bribes? you're truly delusional, lol!!!  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by John Smith on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:39am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:24am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:35am:
A prominent Northern Territory developer has been selected as the preferred tenderer of an area of "prime Crown land" near Darwin.

Annual donor returns to the Australian Electoral Commission revealed Halikos donated $100,000 to the Country Liberals (CLP) and $90,000 to Labor, in 2012-13.

In that same year, director John Halikos also made a personal $50,000 donation to the CLP.

Northern Territory Electoral Commission records show Labor received a $10,000 donation in the last two financial years worth of published data for donors – but the CLP received a total of $200,000 from the company and Mr Halikos in that same period.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-04/halikos-wins-berrimah-farm-development-tender/6909762

It's time they banned political donations


So this developer gives practically the same amount of money to both major parties and all of a sudden the Liberals are taking bribes? you're truly delusional, lol!!!  ;D ;D ;D



same amount of money? maths is not your forte is it?

Northern Territory Electoral Commission records show Labor received a $10,000 donation in the last two financial years worth of published data for donors – but the CLP received a total of $200,000 from the company and Mr Halikos in that same period

and I don't think you get it , these companies aren't bribing the libs because they like the libs, they are bribing ALL parties to try and hedge their bets, but with the highest amount usually going to the party they think is most likely to win the next election or most likely to return the favour ...

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Nov 4th, 2015 at 12:49pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:39am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:24am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:35am:
A prominent Northern Territory developer has been selected as the preferred tenderer of an area of "prime Crown land" near Darwin.

Annual donor returns to the Australian Electoral Commission revealed Halikos donated $100,000 to the Country Liberals (CLP) and $90,000 to Labor, in 2012-13.

In that same year, director John Halikos also made a personal $50,000 donation to the CLP.

Northern Territory Electoral Commission records show Labor received a $10,000 donation in the last two financial years worth of published data for donors – but the CLP received a total of $200,000 from the company and Mr Halikos in that same period.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-04/halikos-wins-berrimah-farm-development-tender/6909762

It's time they banned political donations


So this developer gives practically the same amount of money to both major parties and all of a sudden the Liberals are taking bribes? you're truly delusional, lol!!!  ;D ;D ;D



same amount of money? maths is not your forte is it?

Northern Territory Electoral Commission records show Labor received a $10,000 donation in the last two financial years worth of published data for donors – but the CLP received a total of $200,000 from the company and Mr Halikos in that same period

and I don't think you get it , these companies aren't bribing the libs because they like the libs, they are bribing ALL parties to try and hedge their bets, but with the highest amount usually going to the party they think is most likely to win the next election or most likely to return the favour ...



And who would've thought the Libs would pay it back and some,  well i never .

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by Maqqa on Nov 4th, 2015 at 1:35pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:57am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:24am:
Who assessed the tender?

If you think the tender process is flawed - lets see your evidence

If you think it's biased - lets see the evidence.

Last but not least it's interesting the article does not show who the 2nd and 3rd tenderers are and how much they contributed


lets see the evidence? really Gumpy? that's your answer?  ;D ;D ;D

you think if I ask nicely the govt. will show me every tender application they received?


The alternative is to make ill-informed comments like the ones we are seeing from the left

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 4th, 2015 at 1:49pm

Its time wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 12:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:39am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:24am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:35am:
A prominent Northern Territory developer has been selected as the preferred tenderer of an area of "prime Crown land" near Darwin.

Annual donor returns to the Australian Electoral Commission revealed Halikos donated $100,000 to the Country Liberals (CLP) and $90,000 to Labor, in 2012-13.

In that same year, director John Halikos also made a personal $50,000 donation to the CLP.

Northern Territory Electoral Commission records show Labor received a $10,000 donation in the last two financial years worth of published data for donors – but the CLP received a total of $200,000 from the company and Mr Halikos in that same period.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-04/halikos-wins-berrimah-farm-development-tender/6909762

It's time they banned political donations


So this developer gives practically the same amount of money to both major parties and all of a sudden the Liberals are taking bribes? you're truly delusional, lol!!!  ;D ;D ;D



same amount of money? maths is not your forte is it?

Northern Territory Electoral Commission records show Labor received a $10,000 donation in the last two financial years worth of published data for donors – but the CLP received a total of $200,000 from the company and Mr Halikos in that same period

and I don't think you get it , these companies aren't bribing the libs because they like the libs, they are bribing ALL parties to try and hedge their bets, but with the highest amount usually going to the party they think is most likely to win the next election or most likely to return the favour ...



And who would've thought the Libs would pay it back and some,  well i never .


You mean like when Rudd and then Gillard used taxpayer funds to repay Unions to the tune of $7m for campaign contributions in both their elections and tried to justify it as "training". Sound familiar? Think TURC...

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Nov 4th, 2015 at 2:14pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 1:49pm:

Its time wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 12:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:39am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:24am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:35am:
A prominent Northern Territory developer has been selected as the preferred tenderer of an area of "prime Crown land" near Darwin.

Annual donor returns to the Australian Electoral Commission revealed Halikos donated $100,000 to the Country Liberals (CLP) and $90,000 to Labor, in 2012-13.

In that same year, director John Halikos also made a personal $50,000 donation to the CLP.

Northern Territory Electoral Commission records show Labor received a $10,000 donation in the last two financial years worth of published data for donors – but the CLP received a total of $200,000 from the company and Mr Halikos in that same period.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-04/halikos-wins-berrimah-farm-development-tender/6909762

It's time they banned political donations


So this developer gives practically the same amount of money to both major parties and all of a sudden the Liberals are taking bribes? you're truly delusional, lol!!!  ;D ;D ;D



same amount of money? maths is not your forte is it?

Northern Territory Electoral Commission records show Labor received a $10,000 donation in the last two financial years worth of published data for donors – but the CLP received a total of $200,000 from the company and Mr Halikos in that same period

and I don't think you get it , these companies aren't bribing the libs because they like the libs, they are bribing ALL parties to try and hedge their bets, but with the highest amount usually going to the party they think is most likely to win the next election or most likely to return the favour ...



And who would've thought the Libs would pay it back and some,  well i never .


You mean like when Rudd and then Gillard used taxpayer funds to repay Unions to the tune of $7m for campaign contributions in both their elections and tried to justify it as "training". Sound familiar? Think TURC...


Nope cant remember

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by John Smith on Nov 4th, 2015 at 2:33pm

Maqqa wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 1:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:57am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:24am:
Who assessed the tender?

If you think the tender process is flawed - lets see your evidence

If you think it's biased - lets see the evidence.

Last but not least it's interesting the article does not show who the 2nd and 3rd tenderers are and how much they contributed


lets see the evidence? really Gumpy? that's your answer?  ;D ;D ;D

you think if I ask nicely the govt. will show me every tender application they received?


The alternative is to make ill-informed comments like the ones we are seeing from the left


really? you say that while still supporting the libs versions of the non NBN to labors NBN?  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by John Smith on Nov 4th, 2015 at 2:34pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 1:49pm:

Its time wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 12:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:39am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:24am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:35am:
A prominent Northern Territory developer has been selected as the preferred tenderer of an area of "prime Crown land" near Darwin.

Annual donor returns to the Australian Electoral Commission revealed Halikos donated $100,000 to the Country Liberals (CLP) and $90,000 to Labor, in 2012-13.

In that same year, director John Halikos also made a personal $50,000 donation to the CLP.

Northern Territory Electoral Commission records show Labor received a $10,000 donation in the last two financial years worth of published data for donors – but the CLP received a total of $200,000 from the company and Mr Halikos in that same period.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-04/halikos-wins-berrimah-farm-development-tender/6909762

It's time they banned political donations


So this developer gives practically the same amount of money to both major parties and all of a sudden the Liberals are taking bribes? you're truly delusional, lol!!!  ;D ;D ;D



same amount of money? maths is not your forte is it?

Northern Territory Electoral Commission records show Labor received a $10,000 donation in the last two financial years worth of published data for donors – but the CLP received a total of $200,000 from the company and Mr Halikos in that same period

and I don't think you get it , these companies aren't bribing the libs because they like the libs, they are bribing ALL parties to try and hedge their bets, but with the highest amount usually going to the party they think is most likely to win the next election or most likely to return the favour ...



And who would've thought the Libs would pay it back and some,  well i never .


You mean like when Rudd and then Gillard used taxpayer funds to repay Unions to the tune of $7m for campaign contributions in both their elections and tried to justify it as "training". Sound familiar? Think TURC...


what are you? stupid? Don't bother answering!

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by stunspore on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:43pm
Yet another link where it has gone off topic.  But what else is new for the diehard libs when their team has done something wrong.  Start trying to divert attention elsewhere rather than defend the indefensible.

Title: Re: libs taking developers bribes
Post by Bam on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:14pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 1:49pm:

Its time wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 12:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:39am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:24am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:35am:
A prominent Northern Territory developer has been selected as the preferred tenderer of an area of "prime Crown land" near Darwin.

Annual donor returns to the Australian Electoral Commission revealed Halikos donated $100,000 to the Country Liberals (CLP) and $90,000 to Labor, in 2012-13.

In that same year, director John Halikos also made a personal $50,000 donation to the CLP.

Northern Territory Electoral Commission records show Labor received a $10,000 donation in the last two financial years worth of published data for donors – but the CLP received a total of $200,000 from the company and Mr Halikos in that same period.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-04/halikos-wins-berrimah-farm-development-tender/6909762

It's time they banned political donations


So this developer gives practically the same amount of money to both major parties and all of a sudden the Liberals are taking bribes? you're truly delusional, lol!!!  ;D ;D ;D



same amount of money? maths is not your forte is it?

Northern Territory Electoral Commission records show Labor received a $10,000 donation in the last two financial years worth of published data for donors – but the CLP received a total of $200,000 from the company and Mr Halikos in that same period

and I don't think you get it , these companies aren't bribing the libs because they like the libs, they are bribing ALL parties to try and hedge their bets, but with the highest amount usually going to the party they think is most likely to win the next election or most likely to return the favour ...



And who would've thought the Libs would pay it back and some,  well i never .


You mean like when Rudd and then Gillard used taxpayer funds to repay Unions to the tune of $7m for campaign contributions in both their elections and tried to justify it as "training". Sound familiar? Think TURC...

7 million? Is that all?

One of the first things the Abbott government did was give Murdoch nearly one BILLION dollars. Payback, no doubt, for Murdoch helping to get them elected.

When there's eventually a Royal Commission into Liberal party corruption, Liberals WILL end up in jail.

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