Certain posters need to check this site out.  Typos are fine, but blatant grammatical errors are, obviously, inherited and show up your leftard background.

http://www.edufind.com/english-grammar/english-grammar-guide/

There are certain things that indicate a lack of education going back generations of leftard people.

Example:

"should of" (would of, could of).  It IS should HAVE. Also "payed" when it should be PAID.

There are many other examples  ....  I am sure that other posters will remember those who are almost illiterate and post their terrible English here.  :P

* Edited ... typo! ;)

Except that these days you have to allow for predictive text. I find mistakes I didn't make. Google made me do it.

But most of all, we haven't all had the benefit of the same education and we didn't all get the same start.
Doesn't mean you don't have the right to an opinion.

And highly educated opinions are not always the better ones anyway.

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There are certain things which that indicate a lack of education going back generations of leftard people peoples.

People in glass houses, and all that.

In the words of Pink Floyd :

WE DON'T NEED NO EDUCATION  ::)

Settle down Nef; usage dictates language. Like the climate, it always changes...

We all have our pet peeves. Mine is diminutive abbreviation: Footy, Brekky, Lippy, Pollie, Chrissie pressies for the rellies. Its national baby talk.

It's the interwebz, not the classroom.

Do you feel the same way abt txt msg?

We don't do grammar and spelling like we used to when you went to school, nef.

Rightards get caught up in the past.

issuevoter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 6:50am:

We all have our pet peeves. Mine is diminutive abbreviation: Footy, Brekky, Lippy, Pollie, Chrissie pressies for the rellies. Its national baby talk.

....yeah! it's prolly diffrent now in the technological age ha?

At the same time, we shouldn't allow stuff like txtese to completely destroy the beauty of well written English.

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:26am:

At the same time, we shouldn't allow stuff like txtese to completely destroy the beauty of well written English.

I'm sure there will be certain people that will continue to write in the old style.

I've read letters from men serving overseas in WWI....beautiful prose and magnificent use of the English language.

Compare one of hose letters and one from a man serving in Afghanistan, you'll be truly amazed at how quickly language changes.

Luckily we have libraries, we can always look back on the day......and reminisce.

its the same with good writing the emphasis has changed..once upon a time it was a skill to be proud of..now its not even part of the curriculum

its what makes us all individuals really.. imagine if every sentence was perfect...bloody hell!..I wouldnt be allowed on here.. ;D ;D

I wasn't talking about texting "shorthand", that's fine.  I was talking about the way people speak (and, obviously, this comes out in their writing).  Australian Bogan.   

I have seen (and heard) people say "I done" and "I seen" when it should be I did (or I have done) and I saw (or I have seen).  Plus lots of people say "yous" ... it all reflects upon your upbringing. When I hear people using these words, I cringe. No wonder Australians have a reputation of being low class and of criminal background.  You do not learn to use these words at school, you learn them from your parents (and grandparents).


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bogan1 ˈbəʊɡ(ə)n/ nounAustralian/NZinformalderogatory noun: bogan; plural noun: bogans     an uncouth or unsophisticated person, regarded as being of low social status.     "some bogans yelled at us from their cars"

What is you talking about ?

You should of learned the Queens English.

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:20am:

I wasn't talking about texting "shorthand", that's fine.  I was talking about the way people speak (and, obviously, this comes out in their writing).  Australian Bogan.    I have seen (and heard) people say "I done" and "I seen" when it should be I did (or I have done) and I saw (or I have seen).  Plus lots of people say "yous" ... it all reflects upon your upbringing. When I hear people using these words, I cringe. No wonder Australians have a reputation of being low class and of criminal background.  You do not learn to use these words at school, you learn them from your parents (and grandparents). Quote: bogan1 ˈbəʊɡ(ə)n/ nounAustralian/NZinformalderogatory noun: bogan; plural noun: bogans     an uncouth or unsophisticated person, regarded as being of low social status.     "some bogans yelled at us from their cars"

Ah, the language of Shakespeare...almost unintelligible. But, if that's what you want, have at it.

http://www.grammar-monster.com/easily_confused/there_their_theyre.htm

peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument.


:D :D

You have all done good. Go to the top of the class. But leave your books; you'll be back

Yadda wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:36am:

What is you talking about ? You should of learned the Queens English.

Queen's Ingrish twit!  ;D

Here's a classic, but you have to listen carefully. "I bought, or they bought, something along, with whatever." It should be "I brought." It is endemic. You will hear it from Television announcers as well as the general public. We got it from the Brits. A good place to hear it is from the often plummy mouthed experts on Antique Roadshow. I learned it in school, and it took some effort to unlearn it.

Of course using bad English in speech or writing is more than just an education issue in Australia.
It's also in part a "tall poppy" issue. People don't like to demonstrate a capacity to speak or write well in many cases for fear they will attract social criticism for "being better than they ought to be".

Well I say such attitudes are counter productive in many ways and those who hold them can screw themselves.

what for you say this? you no very nice :D :D :D

English Grammar

My Great Grandma was English but my grandma was born in Australia.

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:42am:

peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument. :D :D

Isn't it more likely to be that they have such a weak argument that they find it impossible to enunciate. Not unlike yourself dopey...

Muttley wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:42am: peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument. :D :D Isn't it more likely to be that they have such a weak argument that they find it impossible to enunciate. Not unlike yourself dopey...

yeah Muttley ... I'm sure that someone who says 'their' instead of 'there' does so because their argument is weak ...

Were you born stupid or was it something you studied for?

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:31pm:

Muttley wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 2:19pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:42am: peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument. :D :D Isn't it more likely to be that they have such a weak argument that they find it impossible to enunciate. Not unlike yourself dopey... yeah Muttley ... I'm sure that someone who says 'their' instead of 'there' does so because their argument is weak ... Were you born stupid or was it something you studied for?

There ya go dopey, you're as thick as pig sh!t.......and you prove it every time you respond..... :D :D :D :D ;D

Muttley wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 2:31pm: Muttley wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 2:19pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:42am: peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument. :D :D Isn't it more likely to be that they have such a weak argument that they find it impossible to enunciate. Not unlike yourself dopey... yeah Muttley ... I'm sure that someone who says 'their' instead of 'there' does so because their argument is weak ... Were you born stupid or was it something you studied for? There ya go dopey, you're as thick as pig sh!t.......and you prove it every time you respond..... :D :D :D :D ;D

I'll have to take your word for it

after all, you're the expert in pig sh!t.

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 5:36pm:

Except that these days you have to allow for predictive text. I find mistakes I didn't make. Google made me do it. But most of all, we haven't all had the benefit of the same education and we didn't all get the same start. Doesn't mean you don't have the right to an opinion. And highly educated opinions are not always the better ones anyway.

I've long held the policy that I prefer to listen to what a man is saying (different context back then) rather than the way he is saying it.  8-)

An' 'at's roight, two, bruvvas...

Does 'paid out' spell the same, or is it 'payed out'?  As in 'really paid him out, eh?  (chortle, chortle)...

issuevoter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 12:47pm:

Here's a classic, but you have to listen carefully. "I bought, or they bought, something along, with whatever." It should be "I brought." It is endemic. You will hear it from Television announcers as well as the general public. We got it from the Brits. A good place to hear it is from the often plummy mouthed experts on Antique Roadshow. I learned it in school, and it took some effort to unlearn it.

I don't know why people get those mixed up.  I was taught that bring = brought and buy = bought.  Rather easy to remember.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:30pm:

English Grammar My Great Grandma was English but my grandma was born in Australia.

Doesn't matter if you were born in Australia, India, USA, Canada, Kenya, South Africa, or a couple of dozen other places, it's still the English language.
And it's a brilliant language and it deserves the best treatment it can get.
In fact some of the best English speakers are in India.

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:01pm:

Of course using bad English in speech or writing is more than just an education issue in Australia. It's also in part a "tall poppy" issue. People don't like to demonstrate a capacity to speak or write well in many cases for fear they will attract social criticism for "being better than they ought to be". Well I say such attitudes are counter productive in many ways and those who hold them can screw themselves.

I doubt the "tall poppy" issue has anything to do with people who don't speak/understand proper English.

When I was at school we had English Composition and English Literature.  Two entirely different subjects and in English Composition we had Grammar (or Grandma  ;)) drummed into us. 

However, the Aussie dialect is renown to be very lazy and it has nothing to do with how "posh" you speak.  TV News readers mispronounce words .... and even an Australian Prime Minister got certain pronunciations way off beam.  ;D

No, I'm definitely right here Neferti, as usual.
Bad English is part of a long standing cultural cringe.

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I doubt the "tall poppy" issue has anything to do with people who don't speak/understand proper correct English.

Aussie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:55pm:

Quote: I doubt the "tall poppy" issue has anything to do with people who don't speak/understand proper correct English.

Piss off, arsie.

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:54pm:

No, I'm definitely right here Neferti, as usual. Bad English is part of a long standing cultural cringe.

I know what you mean.  However, some of it dates back to the First Fleeters. Those who say "I done" and "I seen" and use "yous" as a plural for "you" learned this at their (uneducated) Mother's knee and not at school.

There is yet another saying that I see regularly on these Forums and those posting it must have learned it from their Mum.  "Each to their own" ..... it is actually "To each their own".

So many irritations (Aussie included), so little time to change people.  ;D

E&OE  ;)

I have been looking at rural real estate ads and noticed lots of places have their own “orchid.”  :D :D :D

Another common misuse is “adds” when “ads” are meant.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

lots of places have their own “orchid

it's a popular flower

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:06pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 2:54pm: No, I'm definitely right here Neferti, as usual. Bad English is part of a long standing cultural cringe. I know what you mean.  However, some of it dates back to the First Fleeters. Those who say "I done" and "I seen" and use "yous" as a plural for "you" learned this at their (uneducated) Mother's knee and not at school. There is yet another saying that I see regularly on these Forums and those posting it must have learned it from their Mum.  "Each to their own" ..... it is actually "To each their own". So many irritations (Aussie included), so little time to change people.  ;D E&OE  ;)

"To each his own."

In this instance, 'his' is a generic pronoun.

E&OE noted.

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:42am:

peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument. :D :D

I don't have a problem with your use of the English language, John. :P

I love the Aussie accent it is just the BOGAN lot that make me cringe and they give Australia a bad name. Going grocery shopping in the afternoon in your PJs ... and barefoot? Unbelievable. Uncouth is the word, I think. :-[

0rchid is probably predictive text gone unchecked, which is a disgrace in itself.

The Heartless Felon wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

Neferti wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:06pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 2:54pm: No, I'm definitely right here Neferti, as usual. Bad English is part of a long standing cultural cringe. I know what you mean.  However, some of it dates back to the First Fleeters. Those who say "I done" and "I seen" and use "yous" as a plural for "you" learned this at their (uneducated) Mother's knee and not at school. There is yet another saying that I see regularly on these Forums and those posting it must have learned it from their Mum.  "Each to their own" ..... it is actually "To each their own". So many irritations (Aussie included), so little time to change people.  ;D E&OE  ;) "To each his own." In this instance, 'his' is a generic pronoun.

His, her, their, its .... whatever.  ;) It is "to each .... own" not "Each to .... own".  got it? 8-)

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

I have been looking at rural real estate ads and noticed lots of places have their own “orchid.”  :D :D :D Another common misuse is “adds” when “ads” are meant.

Do they mean Orchard, perhaps?

Using correct grammar is a great idea...

However, the use and/or misuse of it is in no way a left vs right issue - that is just a dumb way to frame the debate and is an instant lose.

Someone else already pointed out that grammar (and by extension) language is a fluid thing. So, the good language and Grammar of bygone days would be foreign to us today. Even those of us who think we know it all about grammar.

It seems to me that clear communication is far more important at the end of the day, even considering that sometimes (at least) correct grammar helps make that message clearer - it is not always the case. As has been pointed out, generally when it comes to forums - grammar is only mentioned when the debate is already lost.

That is kind of funny when the OP is about grammar...

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:22pm:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:18pm: Neferti wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:06pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 2:54pm: No, I'm definitely right here Neferti, as usual. Bad English is part of a long standing cultural cringe. I know what you mean.  However, some of it dates back to the First Fleeters. Those who say "I done" and "I seen" and use "yous" as a plural for "you" learned this at their (uneducated) Mother's knee and not at school. There is yet another saying that I see regularly on these Forums and those posting it must have learned it from their Mum.  "Each to their own" ..... it is actually "To each their own". So many irritations (Aussie included), so little time to change people.  ;D E&OE  ;) "To each his own." In this instance, 'his' is a generic pronoun. His, her, their, its .... whatever.  ;) It is "to each .... own" not "Each to .... own".  got it? 8-)

Yup, I've got it, but you said, '...it is actually "To each their own."'
That's pretty definite.
Anyway, language and the way people use it is always changing. Old farts like me may not always like the changes but that's the way she goes: peoples is lazy...

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:27pm:

Using correct grammar is a great idea... However, the use and/or misuse of it is in no way a left vs right issue - that is just a dumb way to frame the debate and is an instant lose.

I was NOT talking about informal posts on a Political Forum that talks about everything but politics.


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Someone else already pointed out that grammar (and by extension) language is a fluid thing. So, the good language and Grammar of bygone days would be foreign to us today. Even those of us who think we know it all about grammar.

"bygone days" huh? Would you take notice if somebody in "AUTHORITY" said "everything I done?" (instead of did?) or "see yous later"?  How proud you would be to see a Prime Minister speak thus?


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It seems to me that clear communication is far more important at the end of the day, even considering that sometimes (at least) correct grammar helps make that message clearer - it is not always the case. As has been pointed out, generally when it comes to forums - grammar is only mentioned when the debate is already lost.

Waffle. Waffle. Waffle. 

Well done. 10/10

The Heartless Felon wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

Yup, I've got it, but you said, '...it is actually "To each their own."' That's pretty definite. Anyway, language and the way people use it is always changing. Old farts like me may not always like the changes but that's the way she goes: peoples is lazy...

At least you don't drive a taxi.  ;)

Pet hates …

Common misuse of there/their/they're probably cannot be blamed on parents.  They are all pronounced similarly.  Slipping through the cracks in English class would more likely be the cause of such misuse.

The same could be said for the misuse of your/you're.

More and more people nowadays obviously do not understand the correct usage of to/too.

However, misuse of then/than could be attributed to learned home vernacular.

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All of the above rules are taught in primary school.

Another pet hate …

“I couldn't care less” -v- “I could care less”.

“I couldn't care less” means that you don't care at all about something so, in effect, you could not care any less ie  you care so little about something that you “couldn't care less”.  It is an old British/English term.

“I could care less” is a logically flawed variant that popped up in the USA in the 1960s and makes no sense in the context that it is often mistakenly used.   In using this term you are literally saying that it is possible for you to care less than you care now ie you actually care to begin with.

“I couldn't care less” is the correct term.

There was a great comedy sketch some years back, that had public school type correcting a Cockney.

"It is not free, it is three."

"That wo' I said, free."

"No, no. Its not free it is th . . .ree. How do you spell it?"

"Ya don't spell it, ya git. Its a numbah!"

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:49pm:

Pet hates … Common misuse of there/their/they're probably cannot be blamed on parents.  They are all pronounced similarly.  Slipping through the cracks in English class would more likely be the cause of such misuse. The same could be said for the misuse of your/you're. More and more people nowadays obviously do not understand the correct usage of to/too. However, misuse of then/than could be attributed to learned home vernacular.

Or even of/off. Amazing.

It's the "I done", "I seen" and "yous" that really makes me cringe.

Lose/loose. The TV generation.

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:42am: peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument. :D :D I don't have a problem with your use of the English language, John. :P I love the Aussie accent it is just the BOGAN lot that make me cringe and they give Australia a bad name. Going grocery shopping in the afternoon in your PJs ... and barefoot? Unbelievable. Uncouth is the word, I think. :-[

My wife saw that on her first shopping trip after moving to Australia, she was absolutely gob smacked and so shocked her jaw dropped ...she stood there staring with her mouth wide open, unable to move

I had to pull her away because I thought the girl she was staring at might start something


She came from a country where going to the corner store involved putting on your Sunday best. Now she's almost used to it .

Txt and Facebook abbreviations used by some people irritate me.  We are breeding an illiterate generation who have no idea how to spell and who think that whatever auto correct inserts (quite often wrongly) must be correct   ::)

I have to admit that I have never seen anyone shopping in the PJs   :o

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:16pm:

Txt Text and Facebook abbreviations used by some people irritate me.  We are breeding an illiterate generation who have no idea how to spell and who think that whatever auto correct inserts (quite often wrongly) must be correct   ::)

Txt (and not text) is the common usage for txt/text messaging but, yes, it is digital slang.

As you were.

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:19pm:

Txt (and not text) is the common usage for txt/text messaging. As you were.

Oh I know.  But I thought those abbreviations annoyed you.

Aussie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:20pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:19pm: Txt (and not text) is the common usage for txt/text messaging. As you were. Oh I know.  But I thought those abbreviations annoyed you.

You annoy me too.   :)

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:20pm: Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:19pm: Txt (and not text) is the common usage for txt/text messaging. As you were. Oh I know.  But I thought those abbreviations annoyed you. You annoy me too.   :)

My life would not be good, if I didn't.

issuevoter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:00pm:

There was a great comedy sketch some years back, that had public school type correcting a Cockney. "It is not free, it is three." "That wo' I said, free." "No, no. Its not free it is th . . .ree. How do you spell it?" "Ya don't spell it, ya git. Its a numbah!"

What????

:-/

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:14pm:

Neferti wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:18pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:42am: peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument. :D :D I don't have a problem with your use of the English language, John. :P I love the Aussie accent it is just the BOGAN lot that make me cringe and they give Australia a bad name. Going grocery shopping in the afternoon in your PJs ... and barefoot? Unbelievable. Uncouth is the word, I think. :-[ My wife saw that on her first shopping trip after moving to Australia, she was absolutely gob smacked and so shocked her jaw dropped ...she stood there staring with her mouth wide open, unable to move I had to pull her away because I thought the girl she was staring at might start something She came from a country where going to the corner store involved putting on your Sunday best. Now she's almost used to it .

I've never seen such a thing.

And I was born here.

Going shopping in your pyjamas???

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:51pm:

All of the above rules are taught in primary school.

For many people that was a long time ago and particularly people in manual labour employment may not have had the need to revisit the lessons in decades.

I tend to get most of them right much of the time but occasionally stuff one up, I also spell terribly.

I find that some of the most literally correct posters typically have the worst grasp of content (tend to have a message that isn't worth the effort) and often have very low comprehension skills. They will reply beautifully to a post they didn't understand at all.

A number of people who have problems with grammar hit the nail on the head with their content, I prefer this to people making stupid posts with great grammar witch whitch which is rather common.

English? forged it. I have forgodden it.

PISS OFF Aussie or I will report you.

This is MY topic and nobody is abusing anyone.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:51pm: All of the above rules are taught in primary school. For many people that was a long time ago and particularly people in manual labour employment may not have had the need to revisit the lessons in decades. I tend to get most of them right much of the time but occasionally stuff one up, I also spell terribly. I find that some of the most literally correct posters typically have the worst grasp of content (tend to have a message that isn't worth the effort) and often have very low comprehension skills. They will reply beautifully to a post they didn't understand at all. A number of people who have problems with grammar hit the nail on the head with their content, I prefer this to people making stupid posts with great grammar witch whitch which is rather common.

Precisely. You can't judge the content by how prettily it's wrapped.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:14pm: Neferti wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:18pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 11:42am: peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument. :D :D I don't have a problem with your use of the English language, John. :P I love the Aussie accent it is just the BOGAN lot that make me cringe and they give Australia a bad name. Going grocery shopping in the afternoon in your PJs ... and barefoot? Unbelievable. Uncouth is the word, I think. :-[ My wife saw that on her first shopping trip after moving to Australia, she was absolutely gob smacked and so shocked her jaw dropped ...she stood there staring with her mouth wide open, unable to move I had to pull her away because I thought the girl she was staring at might start something She came from a country where going to the corner store involved putting on your Sunday best. Now she's almost used to it . I've never seen such a thing. And I was born here. Going shopping in your pyjamas???

I have been in a number of suburbs where it is not uncommon. I don't get it and there was a time when I found it embarrassing but seem to have grown accustomed to it.

It does not tend to be sexy PJ's more flannelette or robes but still it isn't what I grew up expecting to see.

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:32pm:

PISS OFF Aussie or I will report you. This is MY topic and nobody is abusing anyone.

That is precisely why he is here.

It's your topic...and as such, he intends to trash it.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:14pm: Neferti wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:18pm: [quote author=John_Smith link=1446535347/15#15 7date=1446601325]peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument. :D :D I don't have a problem with your use of the English language, John. :P I love the Aussie accent it is just the BOGAN lot that make me cringe and they give Australia a bad name. Going grocery shopping in the afternoon in your PJs ... and barefoot? Unbelievable. Uncouth is the word, I think. :-[/quote] My wife saw that on her first shopping trip after moving to Australia, she was absolutely gob smacked and so shocked her jaw dropped ...she stood there staring with her mouth wide open, unable to move I had to pull her away because I thought the girl she was staring at might start something She came from a country where going to the corner store involved putting on your Sunday best. Now she's almost used to it . I've never seen such a thing. And I was born here. Going shopping in your pyjamas??? [quote author=Jim_Puddle-Duck link=1446535347/65#65 date=1446618876] I have been in a number of suburbs where it is not uncommon. I don't get it and there was a time when I found it embarrassing but seem to have grown accustomed to it. It does not tend to be sexy PJ's more flannelette or robes but still it isn't what I grew up expecting to see.

Well.

I've yet to see such a thing.  :-? :-/

I've never seen somebody shopping in their pyjamas. I live at the beach so i see many people shopping in their swimming gear but never pyjamas.

mothra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:29pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:51pm: All of the above rules are taught in primary school. For many people that was a long time ago and particularly people in manual labour employment may not have had the need to revisit the lessons in decades. I tend to get most of them right much of the time but occasionally stuff one up, I also spell terribly. I find that some of the most literally correct posters typically have the worst grasp of content (tend to have a message that isn't worth the effort) and often have very low comprehension skills. They will reply beautifully to a post they didn't understand at all. A number of people who have problems with grammar hit the nail on the head with their content, I prefer this to people making stupid posts with great grammar witch whitch which is rather common. Precisely. You can't judge the content by how prettily it's wrapped.

Nor can people be bothered reading rants that are very poorly and hastily put together  and it is usually the barbs, rants or hasty put downs that are the worst.

If someone has a clear message and well thought out post but is remiss in the spelling/grammar department they should be listened to without judgment but more often than not it is the feisty ones looking for a reaction who are the worst destroyers of the English language.

Not always ...  but often.

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:32pm:

PISS OFF Aussie or I will report you. This is MY topic and nobody is abusing anyone.

No.........and be my guest......report me.  (Nobody owns a topic, and I have no idea why you introduced 'abuse' into the discussion.)

Who remembers the 2000 Sydney OLYMPICS?

Initially I was a little embarrassed about everyone yelling "Aussie Aussie Aussie, oi oi oi."

Then .......

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

Who remembers the 2000 Sydney OLYMPICS? Initially I was a little embarrassed about everyone yelling "Aussie Aussie Aussie, oi oi oi." Then .......

Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi does my head in.

I loathe it.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:51pm: All of the above rules are taught in primary school. For many people that was a long time ago and particularly people in manual labour employment may not have had the need to revisit the lessons in decades. I tend to get most of them right much of the time but occasionally stuff one up, I also spell terribly. I find that some of the most literally correct posters typically have the worst grasp of content (tend to have a message that isn't worth the effort) and often have very low comprehension skills. They will reply beautifully to a post they didn't understand at all. A number of people who have problems with grammar hit the nail on the head with their content, I prefer this to people making stupid posts with great grammar witch whitch which is rather common.

As far as I'm concerned, if something is taught in primary school, it's basic knowledge.

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:39pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:33pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:29pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:51pm: All of the above rules are taught in primary school. For many people that was a long time ago and particularly people in manual labour employment may not have had the need to revisit the lessons in decades. I tend to get most of them right much of the time but occasionally stuff one up, I also spell terribly. I find that some of the most literally correct posters typically have the worst grasp of content (tend to have a message that isn't worth the effort) and often have very low comprehension skills. They will reply beautifully to a post they didn't understand at all. A number of people who have problems with grammar hit the nail on the head with their content, I prefer this to people making stupid posts with great grammar witch whitch which is rather common. Precisely. You can't judge the content by how prettily it's wrapped. Nor can people be bothered reading rants that are very poorly and hastily put together  and it is usually the barbs, rants or hasty put downs that are the worst. If someone has a clear message and well thought out post but is remiss in the spelling/grammar department they should be listened to without judgment but more often than not it is the feisty ones looking for a reaction who are the worst destroyers of the English language. Not always ...  but often.

That said but one of the most abusive posters on here dresses it up in finery.

I find grammar is of no indication of abuse.

Except the trolls who don't even try.

I cringed everytime I saw that ad with that cringeworthy Lara Bingle. 

You should hear the radio ads that Fosters peddles in America.  Talk about embarrassing.   

:)

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:45pm:

You should hear the radio ads that Fosters peddles in America.  Talk about embarrassing.

Well, it's an embarrassing beer.

mothra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:47pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:45pm: You should hear the radio ads that Fosters peddles in America.  Talk about embarrassing.    Well, it's an embarrassing beer.

I wouldn't know because I don't drink beer.  Fosters peddle it in the USA as our most popular beer and the ads they inflict on the public over there would make a 'bogan' appear like royalty.

They should be ashamed.

mothra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:42pm:

Neferti wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:41pm: Who remembers the 2000 Sydney OLYMPICS? Initially I was a little embarrassed about everyone yelling "Aussie Aussie Aussie, oi oi oi." Then ....... Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi does my head in. I loathe it.

I recall that made its debut with the Australian Swimming Team during some World event in Canada a couple of decades ago.  I agree that it is and always was cringeworthy.

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:51pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:47pm: Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:45pm: You should hear the radio ads that Fosters peddles in America.  Talk about embarrassing.    Well, it's an embarrassing beer. I wouldn't know because I don't drink beer.  Fosters peddle it in the USA as our most popular beer and the ads they inflict on the public over there would make a 'bogan' appear like royalty. They should be ashamed.

They do that in the UK also, so i hear.

Never met an Australian who drinks Foster's. It's swill.

Aussie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:51pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:42pm: Neferti wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:41pm: Who remembers the 2000 Sydney OLYMPICS? Initially I was a little embarrassed about everyone yelling "Aussie Aussie Aussie, oi oi oi." Then ....... Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi does my head in. I loathe it. I recall that made its debut with the Australian Swimming Team during some World event in Canada a couple of decades ago.  I agree that it is and always was cringeworthy.

Did I not tell you to PISS OFF?

MY THREAD and you, arsie, are NOT WELCOME.  PISS OFF.

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:51pm: mothra wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:42pm: Neferti wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:41pm: Who remembers the 2000 Sydney OLYMPICS? Initially I was a little embarrassed about everyone yelling "Aussie Aussie Aussie, oi oi oi." Then ....... Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi does my head in. I loathe it. I recall that made its debut with the Australian Swimming Team during some World event in Canada a couple of decades ago.  I agree that it is and always was cringeworthy. Did I not tell you to PISS OFF? MY THREAD and you, arsie, are NOT WELCOME.  PISS OFF.

Yeas Dear, you did tell me to 'PISS OFF," and I didn't.  No-one owns any Thread, and I do not need your 'welcome mat' to post here.

Bugger, wot?

mothra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:29pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:51pm: All of the above rules are taught in primary school. For many people that was a long time ago and particularly people in manual labour employment may not have had the need to revisit the lessons in decades. I tend to get most of them right much of the time but occasionally stuff one up, I also spell terribly. I find that some of the most literally correct posters typically have the worst grasp of content (tend to have a message that isn't worth the effort) and often have very low comprehension skills. They will reply beautifully to a post they didn't understand at all. A number of people who have problems with grammar hit the nail on the head with their content, I prefer this to people making stupid posts with great grammar witch whitch which is rather common. Precisely. You can't judge the content by how prettily it's wrapped.

The content is often lost if not wrapped reasonably well.

I am not talking about the odd spelling or grammatical mistake here and there.  It is still easy enough to read and understand the content.

Quite often though posts are long winded and riddled with spelling mistakes and poor grammar.  The most common being lack of punctuation.  If you have to wrinkle your brow and really concentrate in order to understand the content then, more often than not, the message will be lost.

I don't read these posts and I am guessing that I am not the only one.    Therefore their 'message', whatever it is,  is lost.

Another topic ruined by Aussie  :'(

Bump some of your own posts.  I am sure that will help   :)

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:33pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:29pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:51pm: All of the above rules are taught in primary school. For many people that was a long time ago and particularly people in manual labour employment may not have had the need to revisit the lessons in decades. I tend to get most of them right much of the time but occasionally stuff one up, I also spell terribly. I find that some of the most literally correct posters typically have the worst grasp of content (tend to have a message that isn't worth the effort) and often have very low comprehension skills. They will reply beautifully to a post they didn't understand at all. A number of people who have problems with grammar hit the nail on the head with their content, I prefer this to people making stupid posts with great grammar witch whitch which is rather common. Precisely. You can't judge the content by how prettily it's wrapped. The content is often lost if not wrapped reasonably well. I am not talking about the odd spelling or grammatical mistake here and there.  It is still easy enough to read and understand the content. Quite often though posts are long winded and riddled with spelling mistakes and poor grammar.  The most common being lack of punctuation.  If you have to wrinkle your brow and really concentrate in order to understand the content then, more often than not, the message will be lost. I don't read these posts and I am guessing that I am not the only one.    Therefore their 'message', whatever it is,  is lost.

Yeah i  find big 'block' posts with no punctuation too hard to read most of the time.

Mothra: "Yeah i  find big 'block' posts with no punctuation too hard to read most of the time."

I take it this sentence's errors are meant to be ironic.

With those long winded posts you can tell, in the first paragraph, whether they will be worth reading. That is if such divisions have been applied. You can also tell whether or not a poster has the smallest grasp of English composition.

It is very easy to denigrate the appreciation of language with brave dismissals.

Reading and writing are our most important and fundamental accomplishments. In many walks of life, a person's command of the English Language, and their ability to present their ideas clearly and succinctly, will form a major contribution to their achievements.

I had an English Gram-ma in my lineage.

I think ill of those who would disparage her memory.

First it was apostrophes ......

And now .........

>:(

I'm gunna learn yous all how to speak English proper.

Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:51pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:47pm: Black Orchid wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:45pm: You should hear the radio ads that Fosters peddles in America.  Talk about embarrassing.    Well, it's an embarrassing beer. I wouldn't know because I don't drink beer.  Fosters peddle it in the USA as our most popular beer and the ads they inflict on the public over there would make a 'bogan' appear like royalty. They should be ashamed.

They have to sell it in the US and International market - nobody will drink it here.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:38pm:

I'm gunna learn yous all how to speak English proper.

;D ;D ;D

If you have that ability, and a qualification, you'd be a dead cert for an interpreter's job at Centrelink! Big bucks and no fux given.

Lionel Edriess wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:38pm: I'm gunna learn yous all how to speak English proper. ;D ;D ;D If you have that ability, and a qualification, you'd be a dead cert for an interpreter's job at Centrelink! Big bucks and no fux given.

Yous guys dunno what yous is doin.

mothra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:

I've never seen somebody shopping in their pyjamas. I live at the beach so i see many people shopping in their swimming gear but never pyjamas.

I live at the beach

I live near the beach and have seen both at the same time, not sure how much I would like to live at the beach.

My Grandmother lived waterfront and it was a hassle keeping those king tides out of the house at times. Though fishing the front lawn was interesting.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:46pm:

Lionel Edriess wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:42pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:38pm: I'm gunna learn yous all how to speak English proper. ;D ;D ;D If you have that ability, and a qualification, you'd be a dead cert for an interpreter's job at Centrelink! Big bucks and no fux given. Yous guys dunno what yous is doin.

You should team up with Longy and teach ciphering as well.

Lionel Edriess wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:35pm:

I had an English Gram-ma in my lineage. I think ill of those who would disparage her memory. First it was apostrophes ...... And now ......... >:(

I had an English Great-Gram-Ma... trouble is we're discussing how English Grammar Grates for some.... but yous all learned it at school...

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:48pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:38pm: I've never seen somebody shopping in their pyjamas. I live at the beach so i see many people shopping in their swimming gear but never pyjamas. I live at the beach I live near the beach and have seen both at the same time, not sure how much I would like to live at the beach. My Grandmother lived waterfront and it was a hassle keeping those king tides out of the house at times. Though fishing the front lawn was interesting.

Best way to catch land sharks.....

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:37pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:27pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:14pm: Neferti wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:18pm: [quote author=John_Smith link=1446535347/15#15 7date=1446601325]peoples only focuses on grammar when they've lost the argument. :D :D I don't have a problem with your use of the English language, John. :P I love the Aussie accent it is just the BOGAN lot that make me cringe and they give Australia a bad name. Going grocery shopping in the afternoon in your PJs ... and barefoot? Unbelievable. Uncouth is the word, I think. :-[/quote] My wife saw that on her first shopping trip after moving to Australia, she was absolutely gob smacked and so shocked her jaw dropped ...she stood there staring with her mouth wide open, unable to move I had to pull her away because I thought the girl she was staring at might start something She came from a country where going to the corner store involved putting on your Sunday best. Now she's almost used to it . I've never seen such a thing. And I was born here. Going shopping in your pyjamas??? [quote author=Jim_Puddle-Duck link=1446535347/65#65 date=1446618876] I have been in a number of suburbs where it is not uncommon. I don't get it and there was a time when I found it embarrassing but seem to have grown accustomed to it. It does not tend to be sexy PJ's more flannelette or robes but still it isn't what I grew up expecting to see. Well. I've yet to see such a thing.  :-? :-/

It was originally popular with Indians and Asians but has spread into the Aussie bogan community, it can include rolling pins and a face mask at worst. You probably think I am joking and I wish that I was.

What about master Light's language?


Example


Quote:

paedophile sympathisers will be exposed . what reaction are you alluding to ..... these beings are divine feminine beings transforming into adolescence this is not for dribbling old fools to leer and take ungranted liberties . to think there is a reaction wanting from an old predatory male looking to take advantage of this critical stage in a females evolutionary process is not of a divine nature . your programming has had an effect it would seem however in the divine realms all your predatory thought are revealed yes and in rolfs case its a systematic paedophilic intent from a collective group of elite satanic freemasonic paedophiles and the network supporting the delivery of innocent victims from the social services police magistrates courts the UN all all kingpin elite world governments collecting the photographs to be used for blackmail , they all watch each other and have the dirt ,and as such the freemasonic oath binds them unto a collective agenda and through the courts on the appeal process these usually get let off or buy off whomever is the victim ... simply pay to rape this is by the order of the jesuit vatican and the recent papal bull announcing it to be a criminal offence to expose any of it . this is what brought down the paedophile ratzinger and ushered in pope francis both are members of the ninth circle ... and as such they have both witnessed and participated in satanic child sacrificial rites . consequently these are both black magicians , satanic paedophiles and minions of the dark . if any are in confusion , one such as I am exposes the darkness without permission or approval yes this work is not for the faint hearted beloved ones ... and this is why and from the energy in which I emanate in whom I am as a humble servant in the divine and sacred LIGHT as we continue to monitor all thoughts word and deed ,and so it is namaste ॐ

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:53pm:

Lionel Edriess wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:35pm: I had an English Gram-ma in my lineage. I think ill of those who would disparage her memory. First it was apostrophes ...... And now ......... >:( I had an English Great-Gram-Ma... trouble is we're discussing how English Grammar Grates for some.... but yous all learned it at school...

Well, there are (or were) the Great Grammar Schools, and then there were the Greater Public Schools - so, yes, we did learn it at school.

Actually, to be more precise, it was beaten into us by Irish Catholic nuns under the guise of educators while we were in primary school.

Do you remember the little glass bottles of flavoured milk that used to be doled out at 'play-lunch'? They were always warmed in the sun before we got them. I vividly remember doing balances in journals and ledgers (in £sd) at primary school.

So, grammar is not a subject at school anymore, just like maths is now taught with bunches of sticks. English competency, or its Australian equivalent, is now assumed. Small wonder we now have elitism when we compare socio-economic groups within towns and cities that have been 'blended'.

So go ahead and disparage those who would value the use and diversity of the English language, both written and spoken. You are probably one of those who call out 'grammar nazis'. Good for you!

It's probably been a long time since you've given consideration on how such minor details impact on a prospective employer. Then again, if you're employed to dig holes, all you need is a strong back and a rudimentary understanding of your gang's collective lingo.

Do you expect all our recent Syrian refugees to be able to communicate with us on our forum, even if they stumbled upon it? No doubt a complete understanding of the English language to these people is as confusing as an understanding of the Quran is to us infidels.

I'll admit there exists a certain amount of entitlement amongst those who appreciate the nuances of the English language. It's a bit like the 'old school tie' thing. One has to learn how to adapt their language according to their audience - comment, irony, sarcasm and insult can all hinge on inflection and perception.

And, again, you interpret my message as you do because you lack the visual clues and vocal inflections that may influence my intended meaning if I were speaking to you face to face.

The grammar I knew has been dead twenty years.

8-)

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:38pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:27pm: Using correct grammar is a great idea... However, the use and/or misuse of it is in no way a left vs right issue - that is just a dumb way to frame the debate and is an instant lose. I was NOT talking about informal posts on a Political Forum that talks about everything but politics.

Nor was I per se, I was responding to that which you actually wrote...


Neferti wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 5:22pm:

Certain posters need to check this site out.  Typos are fine, but blatant grammatical errors are, obviously, inherited and show up your leftard background. http://www.edufind.com/english-grammar/english-grammar-guide/ There are certain things that indicate a lack of education going back generations of leftard people.

So, obviously it's not a grammar issue, what is it then? Poor communication on your part, a lack of integrity, dishonesty or just a knee jerk response without thought?

10/10 indeed.

Neferti wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:38pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:27pm: [quote]Someone else already pointed out that grammar (and by extension) language is a fluid thing. So, the good language and Grammar of bygone days would be foreign to us today. Even those of us who think we know it all about grammar. "bygone days" huh? Would you take notice if somebody in "AUTHORITY" said "everything I done?" (instead of did?) or "see yous later"?  How proud you would be to see a Prime Minister speak thus?

Yep, bygone days, you know like,

"It seems she hangs upon the cheek of night like a rich jewel in an Ethiope's ear" . - (Act I, Scene V). Romeo and Juliet...

It would be equally difficult dealing with someone in Authority using language from bygone days...

I am sure it would be hard for some to respect a politician who spoke thus... Therefore I am quite surprised at those who respect one that says things like the suppository of wisdom...

Oh, and traditionally, it's not a very Australian attitude to "listen to someone in Authority"...

Probably our undeniable convict heritage or something.

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:37am:

Neferti wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:38pm: Phemanderac wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:27pm: [quote]Someone else already pointed out that grammar (and by extension) language is a fluid thing. So, the good language and Grammar of bygone days would be foreign to us today. Even those of us who think we know it all about grammar. "bygone days" huh? Would you take notice if somebody in "AUTHORITY" said "everything I done?" (instead of did?) or "see yous later"?  How proud you would be to see a Prime Minister speak thus? Yep, bygone days, you know like, "It seems she hangs upon the cheek of night like a rich jewel in an Ethiope's ear" . - (Act I, Scene V). Romeo and Juliet... It would be equally difficult dealing with someone in Authority using language from bygone days... I am sure it would be hard for some to respect a politician who spoke thus... Therefore I am quite surprised at those who respect one that says things like the suppository of wisdom...

      "Shall I compare thee to a summer's day,
       Or simply whop it up thee straight away?"

Ah, Shakespeare...

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:38am:

Oh, and traditionally, it's not a very Australian attitude to "listen to someone in Authority"... Probably our undeniable convict heritage or something.

Where did I mention LISTENING to someone in Authority?

Most Australians do NOT have a convict heritage .... you probably do. That's why you are so anal retentive.  ;D

Quote:

That's why you are so anal retentive.

That is atrocious English Grammar.  There are two correct options:

(a)  That's why you are so anally retentive.
(b)  That's why you are anal retentive.

People in glass houses never learn, do they.

Neferti wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:38am: Oh, and traditionally, it's not a very Australian attitude to "listen to someone in Authority"... Probably our undeniable convict heritage or something. Where did I mention LISTENING to someone in Authority? Most Australians do NOT have a convict heritage .... you probably do. That's why you are so anal retentive.  ;D

Yes, real Australians do, not blow ins.

Aussie wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:39pm:

Quote: That's why you are so anal retentive. That is atrocious English Grammar.  There are two correct options: (a)  That's why you are so anally retentive. (b)  That's why you are anal retentive. People in glass houses never learn, do they.

You haven't, oh the irony of this nut. ::)

Aussie wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:39pm:

Quote: That's why you are so anal retentive. That is atrocious English Grammar.  There are two correct options: (a)  That's why you are so anally retentive. (b)  That's why you are anal retentive. People in glass houses never learn, do they.

[edit]The term anal retentive (also anally retentive), commonly abbreviated to anal, is used to describe a person who pays such attention to detail that the obsession becomes an annoyance to others, potentially to the detriment of the anal-retentive person. The term derives from Freudian psychoanalysis.[/edit]

You, too, are VERY ANAL arsie.  ;D

NB the reference to being an "annoyance".  Fits you like a glove.  So EffOff.

Quote:

So EffOff.

Not on your nelly.  You started this Thread, complaining about grammar used by others, and yet you are, as I have demonstrated, completely inept at it.

'Sucks to be you, wot, a class above us crass Queensland public schooled bogans?'

I think your nappy needs changing.  ;D

Neferti wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 4:39pm: Quote: That's why you are so anal retentive. That is atrocious English Grammar.  There are two correct options: (a)  That's why you are so anally retentive. (b)  That's why you are anal retentive. People in glass houses never learn, do they. [edit]The term anal retentive (also anally retentive), commonly abbreviated to anal, is used to describe a person who pays such attention to detail that the obsession becomes an annoyance to others, potentially to the detriment of the anal-retentive person. The term derives from Freudian psychoanalysis.[/edit] You, too, are VERY ANAL arsie.  ;D NB the reference to being an "annoyance".  Fits you like a glove.  So EffOff.

Not quoting Wikipedia I hope, which is the top search result for your edit. Apparently it's(Wiki) flawed, but feel free to pick another link that says exactly the same thing but is not linked to Wiki, much more reputable.

What a load of $h1t.

Neferti wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:38am: Oh, and traditionally, it's not a very Australian attitude to "listen to someone in Authority"... Probably our undeniable convict heritage or something. Where did I mention LISTENING to someone in Authority?

I'm sorry, yes I did misquote you...

To be fair though one would naturally assume that a person starting a thread about the language we use and the way we use it would have made the simply and logical connection between "taking notice of someone" and listening to them, after all, do you not need to listen in order to "take notice"?



Neferti wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

Most Australians do NOT have a convict heritage .... you probably do. That's why you are so anal retentive.  ;D

Most Australians would not be here if not for OUR convict heritage.

That is our shared story.

Your assumptions regarding my heritage are making an ass out of you...

Anal retentive eh? You started the thread about Grammar and, very ironically, are the one making the errors.

You really meant what you said when you said you had nothing to discuss with me didn't you...