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General Discussion >> Federal Politics >> Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1443656222 Message started by Greens_Win on Oct 1st, 2015 at 9:37am |
Title: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Greens_Win on Oct 1st, 2015 at 9:37am
So now we are part of bombing Syrian groups out to replace Assad ... under the pretence the coalition including Russia is bombing ISIS.
How dumb was it for Turnbull to trust Russia. How dumb was Turnbull not to see this coming. |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Dnarever on Oct 1st, 2015 at 9:39am
I like to see Liberals leaders delving into foreign policy as we seen with Howard the more time he spent stuffing up in this area the less he stuffed up on Australian domestic policy.
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Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Swagman on Oct 1st, 2015 at 10:51am ____ wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 9:37am:
We didn't mind the Soviets bombing the Germans in WW2? What's the diff dumbarse Greens_win? The enemy of my enemy is my friend (for the moment) :D |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Greens_Win on Oct 1st, 2015 at 11:13am Swagman wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 10:51am:
Which enemy? The Russians that shot down MH17 ... or the Syrian attempting to replace Assad that the Russians are now bombing ... or ISIS ??? |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by sir prince duke alevine on Oct 1st, 2015 at 1:42pm
So you support ISIS then?
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Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Greens_Win on Oct 1st, 2015 at 1:58pm
Russia bombing Syrian Groups attempting to remove Assad, that are not connected with ISIS.
And Turnbull backs this. Nothing to do with ISIS. |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Greens_Win on Oct 1st, 2015 at 2:02pm
Russia bombs US-backed forces, leaves IS alone
The Kremlin and the US are at odds over accounts of who Russia bombed in its first Syrian air mission. There are fears American-backed anti-IS forces have been hit by Russian aircrafts carrying out their first bombing missions in Syria. Reports said at least one group, labelled as “Syrian opposition fighters”, who had been trained by the CIA, were hit in the attacks. The New York Times reported a senior US official said at least one and maybe more opposition groups “secretly armed and trained by the CIA” were hit by Russia in the strikes. thenewdaily.com.au/news/2015/10/01/russia-bombs-us-backed-forces-leaves-alone/ Turnbull and his knuckle dragging mob supported Russian bombings !!! |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by sir prince duke alevine on Oct 1st, 2015 at 2:16pm ____ wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 1:58pm:
So who do you prefer take over if Assad gets toppled? ISIS or ISIS? |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Greens_Win on Oct 1st, 2015 at 2:24pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 2:16pm:
It's not just ISIS or ISIS. If you don't know what you are talking about, here is a hint www.google.com.au |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Aussie on Oct 1st, 2015 at 2:31pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 1:42pm:
It is a complex issue, but as best as I can understand it there are three waring mobs. Assad's Government forces fighting Syrian Anti Government forces, and on top of that ISIS fighting whoever they are fighting. Might even be some Kurds in there. The Ruskies have been given the nod by the West (including Australia) to bomb in Syria in the expectation the Russians will target only ISIS. However, the Russians have been a long term ally of Assad's Government, so today's speculation has been whether they are bombing ISIS or the Anti Assad Syrians. |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by issuevoter on Oct 1st, 2015 at 2:47pm
Iraq was better off under Saddam and Syria is better off under Assad. Kabul should have been left to those who captured Kabul. They know how to deal with each other. Read the bottom line.
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Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Aussie on Oct 1st, 2015 at 2:57pm issuevoter wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 2:47pm:
The bottom line mirrors my sentiment. All you have to do is walk around the Canberra War Memorial and you will see the names of the same places coming up over and over. Arabia is for Arabs ~ let them fight over it as they have been for centuries. Sure, that means minorities will be persecuted. They leave and seek asylum elsewhere. The model of the West going in with guns to support a persecuted minority group does not work. |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by sir prince duke alevine on Oct 1st, 2015 at 3:11pm ____ wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 2:24pm:
Oh, you mean you expect the 4 anti-Assad fighters trained by CIA to take over? Here's a hint: the greens redundant rainbow feel good diplomacy doesn't work in this case. It really is either a madman who at least defends minorities vs madmen who don't discriminate against anyone when it comes to killing. |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Greens_Win on Oct 1st, 2015 at 3:44pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 3:11pm:
I meant ... educate yourself ... and an add on ... stop putting your words into other poster's mouth. |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by sir prince duke alevine on Oct 1st, 2015 at 3:56pm ____ wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 3:44pm:
I think if anyone needs to educate themselves on the issues relating to the middle east it is the pretend left wing that you represent. It is because of people like you, constantly criticising and never offering an adequate solution, that groups such as ISIS are end up thriving. What is the Greens alternative? To block ears and eyes, and pretend everything will be okay? |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Greens_Win on Oct 1st, 2015 at 5:18pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 3:56pm:
You blundered in and have been off the mark on the issue. You are in no position to question other's views when you have revealed you don't understand the situation. Alternative to what? Going in blindly without a plan, without an exit strategy and be drawn in further ... just to repeat it again and again and again. Greens : Step one ... have a debate in parliaments and let's hear what Turnbull's mob and the Labor mob's plans are. And when everyone can see both are suicide missions, then listen to the Greens plan. |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 1st, 2015 at 5:23pm
Greens don’t have a plan.
There are Kurds fighting Assad and ISIS in Syria and fighting ISIS in Iraq. Doing a good job too, tho they lack heavy weapons. So, if the Russkies didn’t bomb ISIS did they bomb the Kurds perhaps? |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Greens_Win on Oct 1st, 2015 at 5:44pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 5:23pm:
How do you know. All you do is run around like a headless chook, claiming everyone besides labor is conservative. |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by sir prince duke alevine on Oct 1st, 2015 at 7:45pm ____ wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 5:18pm:
Gotta love the greens plan. "Let's debate what's happening in Syria." That'll end the civil war. Must be great to live in a bubble. |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Greens_Win on Oct 1st, 2015 at 7:48pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 7:45pm:
When you grow out of nappies, give me a shout. |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 1st, 2015 at 7:51pm ____ wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 5:44pm:
I just point out the Greens are conservative and have to be so because they have to play to their base. I notice you have never been able to refute that. Greens also never have a plan or realistic policy for anything, they are not a Party of government. Gestures and hollow rhetoric more their thing. |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Dame Pansi on Oct 1st, 2015 at 7:56pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 5:23pm:
Apparently they bombed the Free Syrian Army, but who knows? That is most likely US propaganda. I saw John Kerrie squealing like a banshee on the news tonight. I can see a US or one of their allies plane getting struck by a Russian missile soon.....then all hell will break loose. WWIII. ......where will the government put all the conscientious objectors when they call for compulsory service? |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Greens_Win on Oct 1st, 2015 at 8:10pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 7:51pm:
Why bother refute your opinions when they are fact free zones. |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 1st, 2015 at 8:18pm ____ wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 8:10pm:
Of course they are! Keep telling yourself that! You will fool someone, maybe. So, tell me, what is the Greens’ policy on Syria? Just go home, I suppose? |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by Greens_Win on Oct 1st, 2015 at 8:31pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 8:18pm:
First things first ~ bring our planes home. With no clear objective, all our bombing is doing is adding to the chaos. Or has lib lab a clear objective? |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Oct 1st, 2015 at 8:44pm ____ wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 8:31pm:
Protecting the Jews stolen territory , conservative mantra . |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by sir prince duke alevine on Oct 1st, 2015 at 8:46pm ____ wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 7:48pm:
When your party becomes realistic give me a shout. It's ridicoulous that these prancy fairies pretend to have taken over the left side of politics. A bunch of lunatics too worried about being pc to ever be taken seriously in anything other than what should be on the lunch menu at Parliament House. |
Title: Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Post by sir prince duke alevine on Oct 1st, 2015 at 8:51pm ____ wrote on Oct 1st, 2015 at 8:31pm:
The objective is to bomb strategic ISIS targets. It's only the greens who are too dumb a party, and too PC, to recognise that sometimes life can't just be a big talkfest. |
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