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Title: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by Ajax on Sep 6^th, 2015 at 10:13pm

Quote:

Saturday, 18 April 2009

CO2 levels may have been over 2000ppm in 1200AD

Another inconvenient truth for warmists. New research suggests that the co2 level of the atmosphere was a lot higher during the Medieval Warm Period than today.

First lets look at a paper that shaped the modern view of past co2 levels.

180 Years of atmospheric CO2 Gas Analysis by Chemical Methods, published in the prestigous Journal "Energy and Environment" by Dr Ernst-Georg Beck.

http://www.biokurs.de/treibhaus/180CO2_supp.htm

The paper is also covered in the media:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/6855

Below I have reproduced some of the data from this study for the purpose of scientific analysis. This data shows that co2 levels were much higher than today in 1940 and 1827:

http://denialdepot.blogspot.com.au/2009/04/co2-levels-may-have-been-over-2000ppm.html

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by Ajax on Sep 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm

The paper here.

http://www.biomind.de/nogreenhouse/daten/EE%2018-2_Beck.pdf

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by Jovial Monk on Sep 6^th, 2015 at 11:28pm

So you are saying high CO2 caused high temperatures in the MWP but increasing CO2 concentrations are not causing warming now? As childish as that?

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by CaptainCopperElephant-gate on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 12:09pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 6^th, 2015 at 11:28pm:

So you are saying high CO2 caused high temperatures in the MWP but increasing CO2 concentrations are not causing warming now? As childish as that?

No, his sources are saying that co2 causes temperature to rise.

The deniers are denying the fact there is a feedback relationship between co2 and temperature: the definition of feedback mechanisms being the fundamental building blocks of what a complex system is!

It's just pause button politics because eventually the argument is seen to be irrational but groupthink will never work it our until the elite have retooled their workshops to take advantage of the new paradigm.

Climate change is still real and ajax knows it: he's just pressing the pause button and lobbying government for more time via propaganda to the voter!! Like all the miners did... same shite different angle!!

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

;)

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by CaptainCopperElephant-gate on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 12:53pm

Mauna Loa is on a Volcano!

That's right, they could have picked anywhere in the world but warmists chose to put the co2 sensor on top of one of the biggest volcanoes in the world! No wonder it shows a rise in co2!

source: just ask ajax 8-)

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by Chimp_Logic on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 1:51pm

I think Batman has been consistently clear on the point that Global temperatures are independent of atmospheric CO2 concentration...

He has been very clear on this point

very clear...If there is one thing that we can give Batman eternal credit for, it's that he has been crystal clear on this point.

Even when he is sooking in public ladies and gentlemen

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by CaptainCopperElephant-gate on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 1:55pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

Batman with a crackpipe hates the kids so much he voted for copper internet!

These lib voters think they have business acumen because they can use a calculator!!

Can batman with a crackpipe tell us how warm we would be on earth without CO2?

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by Chimp_Logic on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 2:08pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 1:55pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

Did Batman vote for Abbott?

Surely you're kidding Copper?

Amazing - to think Australia is now open for business. We are the wonders of the worlders of the economic world. Hockey will steer the ship in the right direction. He knows what he is doing. And if he is uncertain about anything, anything at all, he can always consult with Abbott, Julie, Christopher or even Barnaby...

We are in safe hands now - keep bellowing out that coal smoke ladies and gentlemen.

...nothing to see here - move along

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by CaptainCopperElephant-gate on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 3:06pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 2:08pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 1:55pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

Open for global ridicule: Howard says bugger all,... costello says bugger all,... Hewson aint exactly proud,... none of the past interim leaders have stucken their necks up for the abbott train-crash except for turnbull and he looks so chagrined he may aswell have smoked the boring crack on a friday and found himself unable to face the boss on a monday morning!

it's a friggin joke that crack: too strong,... and too boring!!

(Did i mention the tryhard upper-middle-classes drug of choice was boring ??)

Just listen to abbott go off his head in question time: talk about noise!

:D :D :D

(Hey, no one is backing him either... just a house of shame :D :D :D :D :D :D)

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by Ajax on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 6:40pm

Ladies and gentlemen these Anthropogenic Global Warming religious zealots are so dishonest and misleading its really really sad especially when they claim to be educated people like scientists and lecturers.

First of all a CO2 chimney stack will look like it has nothing coming out of it.

CO2 at one atmosphere 101.3 Kpa solidifies at -78°C, just like water turns into steam at +100°C.

So that stack that hairy arsed baboon has placed in his post above is not CO2 rather its probably steam.

And lets not forget that CO2 follows temperature by a lag of about 800 years, that is if the atmospheric temperature rises, the atmospheric CO2 will follow with a lag of about 800 years.

They're so ferking dishonest it's unbelievable.... >:(

And if CO2 was higher in the MWP and 1940 than today where does that leave you with man being responsible for the current warming and increase in CO2?

I'll tell you bullsh!t artists, it leaves you with your c@ck in your hands w@nkers....... :'(

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by Chimp_Logic on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 7:16pm

Well well well well...look who popped in ladies and gentlemen

If it isnt the great Abbott, Bolt loving child detesting Super hero.

Poor batman, he has stopped crying, but I wonder where he has been all this time?

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by CaptainCopperElephant-gate on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 7:17pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 6:40pm:

You don't realise that this means positive feedback mechanisms exist in the complex system that is climate!

You have no clue ;)

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by Chimp_Logic on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 8:19pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 6:40pm:

Ladies and gentlemen these Anthropogenic Global Warming religious

Feeling a bit insecure are we batman? Using my material now?

You will be posting smoking monkeys soon

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by Ajax on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 6:29pm

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by Fast.Affordable.Sooner. on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 6:33pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 6:29pm:

--> batman with a crackpipe doesn't know what a feedback mechanism is :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: CO2 higher in Medieval Warm Period & 1940
Post by innocentbystander. on Sep 18^th, 2015 at 11:36am

Crack pipes, monkeys, wanking ... another highly scientific discussion ;D