Household gas prices will soon surge by 30 per cent, according to new research by ANZ, with the price rise also having the potential to send parts of Australia's already struggling industrial sector out of business.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-23/household-industrial-gas-prices-to-surge/6642976

Whilst screwing the aussie consumer ... you can expect the same with meat and agriculture too

And as a bonus you can have a 457 doing the job you used to do. Well done Libs.

Those already on the edge, a Baird ~  Abbott 15% GST increase to come.

We need a gas reservation policy here. A lower price for domestically consumed gas and a higher price for exported gas. We wouldn't be the first in the world to do it. Why should it be extracted here and sold at a global price instead of getting our own gas cheaper?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 3:08pm:

We need a gas reservation policy here. A lower price for domestically consumed gas and a higher price for exported gas. We wouldn't be the first in the world to do it. Why should it be extracted here and sold at a global price instead of getting our own gas cheaper?

Blasphemer, what sort of liberal are you?

John Smith wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:25pm:

Household gas prices will soon surge by 30 per cent, according to new research by ANZ, with the price rise also having the potential to send parts of Australia's already struggling industrial sector out of business. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-23/household-industrial-gas-prices-to-surge/6642976 Whilst screwing the aussie consumer ... you can expect the same with meat and agriculture too

Only the ABC would report a boom as doom and gloom.... :D

Swagman wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 2:25pm: Household gas prices will soon surge by 30 per cent, according to new research by ANZ, with the price rise also having the potential to send parts of Australia's already struggling industrial sector out of business. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-23/household-industrial-gas-prices-to-surge/6642976 Whilst screwing the aussie consumer ... you can expect the same with meat and agriculture too Only the ABC would report a boom as doom and gloom.... :D

a boom? I believe the were reporting about the likely price hikes now that we're selling all our resources overseas.

Whilst it may be boom for the few thousand shareholders, it is all gloom for the other 23 million Aussies likely to be affected.

Quote:

Another of the report's authors, ANZ's co-head of Australian economics, Felicity Emmett, said the surge in LNG exports will be a net benefit for the country despite the higher domestic prices. "There will be the benefits to growth and the benefits to the trade balance and also higher government revenues both at the Commonwealth level and the state level," she said. ANZ expects LNG to overtake iron ore as the key driver of Australian exports by next year, also reversing the current trade deficit.

Smithy says that Abbott's FTAs already helping the economy....... [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

Smithy is exactly right (one of those incredibly rare occasions  :D) :D :D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 3:08pm:

We need a gas reservation policy here. A lower price for domestically consumed gas and a higher price for exported gas. We wouldn't be the first in the world to do it. Why should it be extracted here and sold at a global price instead of getting our own gas cheaper?

Exactly......

Swagman wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:26pm:

Quote: Another of the report's authors, ANZ's co-head of Australian economics, Felicity Emmett, said the surge in LNG exports will be a net benefit for the country despite the higher domestic prices. "There will be the benefits to growth and the benefits to the trade balance and also higher government revenues both at the Commonwealth level and the state level," she said. ANZ expects LNG to overtake iron ore as the key driver of Australian exports by next year, also reversing the current trade deficit. Smithy says that Abbott's FTAs already helping the economy....... [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] Smithy is exactly right (one of those incredibly rare occasions  :D) :D :D

you had to much beer already?

where did I say that?


Swagman wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:26pm:

Another of the report's authors, ANZ's co-head of Australian economics, Felicity Emmett,

John Smith wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:25pm:

Household gas prices will soon surge by 30 per cent, according to new research by ANZ, with the price rise also having the potential to send parts of Australia's already struggling industrial sector out of business. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-23/household-industrial-gas-prices-to-surge/6642976 Whilst screwing the aussie consumer ... you can expect the same with meat and agriculture too

while we all know you are an ignorant tosser, I am surprised to see you didnt know that this particular problem has been coming for YEARS....


and yet at the same time, you lot oppose Coal Seam Gas...

interesting how dumb you can be.

Last month at a high-level industry course on Coal Seam Gas we were asked (by a local council) how to change people's silly opinions about CSG.  My comment was to just let them run out of gas or price it so high they cannot use it.

Maybe I was listened to!!!

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 5:02pm:

Last month at a high-level industry course on Coal Seam Gas we were asked (by a local council) how to change people's silly opinions about CSG.  My comment was to just let them run out of gas or price it so high they cannot use it. Maybe I was listened to!!!

Or we could dig the whole place up, export it and keep just enough for domestic use...............at top dollar.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 2:25pm: Household gas prices will soon surge by 30 per cent, according to new research by ANZ, with the price rise also having the potential to send parts of Australia's already struggling industrial sector out of business. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-23/household-industrial-gas-prices-to-surge/6642976 Whilst screwing the aussie consumer ... you can expect the same with meat and agriculture too while we all know you are an ignorant tosser, I am surprised to see you didnt know that this particular problem has been coming for YEARS.... and yet at the same time, you lot oppose Coal Seam Gas... interesting how dumb you can be.

Ohh I knew it was coming, I always said that when the libs won office costs of living will rise :D :D

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 5:02pm:

Last month at a high-level industry course on Coal Seam Gas we were asked (by a local council) how to change people's silly opinions about CSG.  My comment was to just let them run out of gas or price it so high they cannot use it. Maybe I was listened to!!!

or alternatively, keep Australia's gas for Australia, and let china frak their waterways  :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:50pm:

Swagman wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 4:26pm: Quote: Another of the report's authors, ANZ's co-head of Australian economics, Felicity Emmett, said the surge in LNG exports will be a net benefit for the country despite the higher domestic prices. "There will be the benefits to growth and the benefits to the trade balance and also higher government revenues both at the Commonwealth level and the state level," she said. ANZ expects LNG to overtake iron ore as the key driver of Australian exports by next year, also reversing the current trade deficit. Smithy says that Abbott's FTAs already helping the economy....... [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] Smithy is exactly right (one of those incredibly rare occasions  :D) :D :D you had to much beer already? where did I say that?

......it is the title of your thread Johnny  :D ;D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 3:08pm:

We need a gas reservation policy here. A lower price for domestically consumed gas and a higher price for exported gas. We wouldn't be the first in the world to do it. Why should it be extracted here and sold at a global price instead of getting our own gas cheaper?

This is how residents of oil-exporting countries can pay just a few cents a litre for petrol, while commanding market prices for exports. Why can't we do this?

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 5:02pm:

Last month at a high-level industry course on Coal Seam Gas we were asked (by a local council) how to change people's silly opinions about CSG.  My comment was to just let them run out of gas or price it so high they cannot use it. Maybe I was listened to!!!

In 10 years, CSG will be totally unnecessary. By then, we will be able to manufacture methane industrially using sunshine, air and water. We can already do this with diesel, and methane is a far simpler molecule.

WA reserves 15% of its gas for domestic use with little to no damage to investment nor has it created sovereign risk, with $88 billion invested in WA gas production since reservation was introduced in 2006....How will this policy help our manufactures remain competitive???

:-? :-? :-?

Swagman wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 5:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 4:50pm: Swagman wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 4:26pm: Quote: Another of the report's authors, ANZ's co-head of Australian economics, Felicity Emmett, said the surge in LNG exports will be a net benefit for the country despite the higher domestic prices. "There will be the benefits to growth and the benefits to the trade balance and also higher government revenues both at the Commonwealth level and the state level," she said. ANZ expects LNG to overtake iron ore as the key driver of Australian exports by next year, also reversing the current trade deficit. Smithy says that Abbott's FTAs already helping the economy....... [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] Smithy is exactly right (one of those incredibly rare occasions  :D) :D :D you had to much beer already? where did I say that? ......it is the title of your thread Johnny  :D ;D

no it's not ... the title of my thread is hepling, which is about as much help to the economy as the FTA's  :D :D :D

Bam wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:03pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 3:08pm: We need a gas reservation policy here. A lower price for domestically consumed gas and a higher price for exported gas. We wouldn't be the first in the world to do it. Why should it be extracted here and sold at a global price instead of getting our own gas cheaper? This is how residents of oil-exporting countries can pay just a few cents a litre for petrol, while commanding market prices for exports. Why can't we do this?

Why? Well the govt makes money via royalties etc, Australians pay more for a product. It's like a tax on Australians but done through trade rather than govt and you cannot "blame" the govt. A 30% rise in the price is also a 30% rise in GST revenues on it. Win - win, for govt.

Bam wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:07pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 5:02pm: Last month at a high-level industry course on Coal Seam Gas we were asked (by a local council) how to change people's silly opinions about CSG.  My comment was to just let them run out of gas or price it so high they cannot use it. Maybe I was listened to!!! In 10 years, CSG will be totally unnecessary. By then, we will be able to manufacture methane industrially using sunshine, air and water. We can already do this with diesel, and methane is a far simpler molecule.

dream on. If that were true there would already be places doing this.  Promised technology is often a false hope. Im still waiting for my jet pack.

John Smith wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:50pm:

Swagman wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 4:26pm: Quote: Another of the report's authors, ANZ's co-head of Australian economics, Felicity Emmett, said the surge in LNG exports will be a net benefit for the country despite the higher domestic prices. "There will be the benefits to growth and the benefits to the trade balance and also higher government revenues both at the Commonwealth level and the state level," she said. ANZ expects LNG to overtake iron ore as the key driver of Australian exports by next year, also reversing the current trade deficit. Smithy says that Abbott's FTAs already helping the economy....... [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] Smithy is exactly right (one of those incredibly rare occasions  :D) :D :D you had to much beer already? where did I say that? Swagman wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 4:26pm: Another of the report's authors, ANZ's co-head of Australian economics, Felicity Emmett,

Na h - he said HEPLING the economy - it's an ancient Blagislavian term meaning rooting..... but he wasn't allowed to say rooting....

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:33pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 6:07pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 5:02pm: Last month at a high-level industry course on Coal Seam Gas we were asked (by a local council) how to change people's silly opinions about CSG.  My comment was to just let them run out of gas or price it so high they cannot use it. Maybe I was listened to!!! In 10 years, CSG will be totally unnecessary. By then, we will be able to manufacture methane industrially using sunshine, air and water. We can already do this with diesel, and methane is a far simpler molecule. dream on. If that were true there would already be places doing this.  Promised technology is often a false hope. Im still waiting for my jet pack.

https://www.yahoo.com/travel/jet-pack-travel-is-about-to-become-a-reality-124669630847.html

There ya go, 2 second google search.

Swagman wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 2:25pm: Household gas prices will soon surge by 30 per cent, according to new research by ANZ, with the price rise also having the potential to send parts of Australia's already struggling industrial sector out of business. Whilst screwing the aussie consumer ... you can expect the same with meat and agriculture too Only the ABC would report a boom as doom and gloom.... :D

Only the ABC??
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2015/7/23/australian-news/household-gas-bills-jump-30

In a few days rest of commer
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-23/household-industrial-gas-prices-to-surge/6642976

Its time wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:24pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 6:33pm: Bam wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 6:07pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 5:02pm: Last month at a high-level industry course on Coal Seam Gas we were asked (by a local council) how to change people's silly opinions about CSG.  My comment was to just let them run out of gas or price it so high they cannot use it. Maybe I was listened to!!! In 10 years, CSG will be totally unnecessary. By then, we will be able to manufacture methane industrially using sunshine, air and water. We can already do this with diesel, and methane is a far simpler molecule. dream on. If that were true there would already be places doing this.  Promised technology is often a false hope. Im still waiting for my jet pack. https://www.yahoo.com/travel/jet-pack-travel-is-about-to-become-a-reality-124669630847.html There ya go, 2 second google search.

'about to' is not 'is'. Plus a jetpack that cannot be afforded or probably be licensed to use is hardly the same as what the space age promised.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:56pm:

Its time wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 7:24pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 6:33pm: Bam wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 6:07pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 5:02pm: Last month at a high-level industry course on Coal Seam Gas we were asked (by a local council) how to change people's silly opinions about CSG.  My comment was to just let them run out of gas or price it so high they cannot use it. Maybe I was listened to!!! In 10 years, CSG will be totally unnecessary. By then, we will be able to manufacture methane industrially using sunshine, air and water. We can already do this with diesel, and methane is a far simpler molecule. dream on. If that were true there would already be places doing this.  Promised technology is often a false hope. Im still waiting for my jet pack. https://www.yahoo.com/travel/jet-pack-travel-is-about-to-become-a-reality-124669630847.html There ya go, 2 second google search. 'about to' is not 'is'. Plus a jetpack that cannot be afforded or probably be licensed to use is hardly the same as what the space age promised.

Sell some of your literature , and your ford escort for a down payment