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Reclaim Australia protesters have clashed with anti-racism groups and police have used capsicum spray at opposing rallies in Melbourne.    The steps and roads around state parliament have been blocked and police lines are dividing groups, including the Coalition Against Racism and Fascism and right-wing Reclaim Australia. Police have been forced to use capsicum spray to quell crowds and break up tense encounters between the various groups, with anti-racism protesters labelling the others fascists and Nazis. At one stage, anti-racism groups got around police lines, clashing physically with a Reclaim Australia supporter. A Victoria Police spokeswoman said there had been only “minor violence” and the situation appeared under control. Reclaim Australia protesters have been seen carrying signs saying “patriotism is not racism” and “stop non-white immigration”. Their numbers are set to swell on Saturday afternoon as they are joined by members of a splinter group, the United Patriots Front. Rallies are also planned by United Against Islamophobia and Rally Against Racism groups. Coalition Against Racism and Fascism spokeswoman Vashti Kenway said anti-racism groups were mobilising to send a message that their rivals’ views were not acceptable. “The clear message is that Melburnians aren’t going to stand for the kind of far right racist, sexist, homophobic attitudes that have really been embodied in both the United Patriots Front and Reclaim Australia, and that we’re prepared to take a stand in the city, that we’re prepared to say Melbourne is not the place for those kinds of attitudes,” she said. Ms Kenway accused police of overreacting and creating unwarranted hype around the demonstrations but said the protest would continue despite the heavy security. Victoria Greens acting leader Nina Springle said state and federal leaders should condemn Reclaim Australia and reject fear-mongering.     “The so-called Reclaim Australia movement should be called out for what it is: a small but organised group of people stirring up racist fears about Muslims in Australia,” she said. “It’s regrettable that there’s a fringe element that wants to undermine this multicultural harmony.” AAP

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/reclaim-australia-race-rallies-police-use-capsicum-spray/story-e6frg6nf-1227446984748

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 8:58pm:

Reclaim Australia protesters have been seen carrying signs saying “patriotism is not racism” and “stop non-white immigration”

Yes I saw that sign, truly despicable, especially if you read all of it.

Have you seen it Sprint?

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.............A handful of Reclaim Australia protesters found themselves hemmed in next to the Princess Theatre, and were forced to withstand a flurry of punches...... ............Little Bourke St was transformed into a temporary triage centre as scores of injured protesters lay stricken on the ground receiving treatment. The street was littered with empty water and milk bottles used to douse the effects of the spray. Two anti-Islam supporters found themselves under attack after they were chased up Spring St by a baying mob, before being viciously assaulted at a tram stop. One man was seen stamping on another man’s head as he was knocked to the ground. Events started to sour at the start of a rally by anti-Islam group Reclaim Australia when hundreds of anti-racism demonstrators attending the earlier Rally Against Racism protest in Bourke St marched into Spring St..............

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2015/07/18/1227447/186233-30886eda-2cf9-11e5-a522-4b58038690a7.jpg
A Reclaim Australia protester has milk thrown at himby anti-racist protesters. Picture: Jake Nowakowski

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/reclaim-australia-rally-anti-racism-and-anti-islam-groups-clash-in-spring-st/story-fni0fiyv-1227446762773

I find it hard to distinguish one racist group from another...

they all honestly need to take a good look at themselves...

I dont know when any parading through the streets fixed anything to be honest...especially when its tarring everyone with the same brush.

not all Muslims are violent haters... anymore than those who want migrants to this country to live under our culture and not what they left behind...

we need to get whats behind all this???....sometimes its fear... unwarranted fear for the most part....

but bashing each other wont solve it..

My understanding is Reclaim Aust has well marketed legally approved protests planned for months ahead.

the left had a hastily planned rally timed to finish just before the Reclaim March was due to start.
Once the leftys were all fired up, they walked around to the Reclaim Austs march and caused the violence.

the lefts went there on purpose to cause mayhem.
they should have kept away.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

My understanding is Reclaim Aust has well marketed legally approved protests planned for months ahead.

It doesn't matter how well marketed and legal, if your event is protecting the views of literal neo-nazis. I would hope that people would protest such a thing.

No protest or counter protest is going to make the Muslim problem go away. It is only going to get worse.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

the lefts went there on purpose to cause mayhem. they should have kept away.

They should be banned.

what's the matter? the righties get all upset but then cry when someone else gets upset with them?  ;D ;D ;D

typical cowards

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:38pm:

what's the matter? the righties get all upset but then cry when someone else gets upset with them?  ;D ;D ;D

Yes. The leftards said really mean things at the rally today. All we were trying to do was ban all the Muslims.

What's wrong with that?

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2015 at 10:38pm: what's the matter? the righties get all upset but then cry when someone else gets upset with them?  ;D ;D ;D Yes. The leftards said really mean things at the rally today. All we were trying to do was ban all the Muslims. What's wrong with that?

kill them !

issuevoter wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:25pm:

No protest or counter protest is going to make the Muslim problem go away. It is only going to get worse.

Well thats exactly what the left want, its in their DNA, they are genetically predisposed to sh!t in their own nest, whether that is by fiscal irresponsibility, poor immigration choices, socialism or communism, whatever it takes, it does not matter, the establishment must be smashed, the really sad part is most of them don't even realise what they are doing.

John Smith wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:49pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 18th, 2015 at 10:41pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 18th, 2015 at 10:38pm: what's the matter? the righties get all upset but then cry when someone else gets upset with them?  ;D ;D ;D Yes. The leftards said really mean things at the rally today. All we were trying to do was ban all the Muslims. What's wrong with that? kill them !

Exactly. We're just proud New Zealanders standing up for our rights. If the leftards want rallies, they should start their own.

Actually, forget that. If the leftards want rallies, they should join us.

Ban them. Stop them from breeding.

I blame Islam.

Rightards shouldn't be attending such rallies.
Emotional rallies are for weak individuals who need group think.
Leave the rallies to rent a crowd.
Rightards shouldn't care about race.
Indians, Chinese, brilliant business people, small businessmen, send their kids to the most expensive private schools, aspire to great tight knit families, worship success and hard work.
I bet none of my Indian and south Asian friends  were there, emotional outbursts don't compete with growing your business and progressing your family

200 people  ;D ;D ;D seen more in the que for a sausage sizzle at bunnings  ;D, did that idiot from the nationals get up and speak , well whisper, after all only 200 turned up  ;D ;D

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

My understanding is Reclaim Aust has well marketed legally approved protests planned for months ahead. the left had a hastily planned rally timed to finish just before the Reclaim March was due to start. Once the leftys were all fired up, they walked around to the Reclaim Austs march and caused the violence. the lefts went there on purpose to cause mayhem. they should have kept away.

Thank goodness they were their to keep them in check , we're only just recovering from the universal embarrassment of the right wing loonies at cronulla riots. Good post though in identifying yourself and a few others as hard right , for any newcomers its a good way to know who to avoid or take the piss out of for chits and giggles  ;)

Its time wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 5:26am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 18th, 2015 at 10:12pm: My understanding is Reclaim Aust has well marketed legally approved protests planned for months ahead. the left had a hastily planned rally timed to finish just before the Reclaim March was due to start. Once the leftys were all fired up, they walked around to the Reclaim Austs march and caused the violence. the lefts went there on purpose to cause mayhem. they should have kept away. Thank goodness they were their to keep them in check , we're only just recovering from the universal embarrassment of the right wing loonies at cronulla riots. Good post though in identifying yourself and a few others as hard right , for any newcomers its a good way to know who to avoid or take the piss out of for chits and giggles  ;)

I'm only just recovering from the "beheading sign" Muslim demonstration.

double plus good wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 7:08am:

I'm only just recovering from the "beheading sign" Muslim demonstration.

Saw a photo of a 1488 sign yesterday.

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2015/07/19/1227447/660153-35e6e658-2d9f-11e5-a7c2-8f56938fe831.jpg


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Crowd control ... A woman is cared for after being sprayed by police during a rally to try and stop the Reclaim Australia group from gathering in Melbourne. Picture: Getty

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/pauline-hanson-calls-for-calm-at-reclaim-australia-rallies-in-sydney-queensland-perth-and-hobart/story-fnihslxi-1227447659928

she deserved much worse than that.

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POLICE are out in full force at Reclaim Australia rallies today, as Pauline Hanson called for calm after violent scenes erupted in Melbourne.    As protesters take part in Reclaim Australia rallies around Australia today, Ms Hanson told the Today Show today that the rallies were not “about violence”. Instead, they were about people having the right to actually come and have their say. Ms Hanson will take part in a Rockhampton rally as part of her “Fed Up” tour. “Why do we have to have this violence?,” she said. “I don’t want to see this violence.” “(Reclaim) is people like myself saying to our politicians I’m sick and tired of where you have us headed,” she also said on her official Facebook page. “It is about being an Australian, being proud of who you are and to maintain our culture, way of life and laws.” Photos and video taken by social media users have shown protesters already chanting for “scum” to get off our streets.   As Ms Hanson prepares to run for a seat in the Senate next year, she said her “Fed Up” tour was about touring the country to hear Australians’ concerns. Whether they are fed up with foreign investment, high taxes, losing our farming sector, Ms Hanson said she planned to go to “remote areas where people feel forgot”. When asked why she still felt she had support, she told the Today Show: “Because I’ve never given up and the party won’t. Australians haven’t given up on me. I get so much support Deb that I’m walking around because people say to me, Pauline, you are only saying what we’re thinking but you’ve got the guts to get up and say it.” Ms Hanson’s comments come as rallies are set to get under way across the nation in Queensland, New South Wales, Western Australia and Tasmania.   NEW SOUTH WALES Reclaim Australia began its demonstration further up Martin Place at about 10am. Police have formed a line in front of the anti-racism protesters and several units of mounted officers are around Martin Place. Banners reading “stand with multiculturalism against racism” and “no racism, no Islamophbia” were held high in the cool morning air. Reclaim Australia has called supporters to gather in the same city street a short time later, for what organisers have described as “a public response to the shock of recent atrocities of ‘Islam’s radicals’ both inside and outside of Australia”. Three people in ancient Greek-like military costumes, including helmets and shields, and four men with Australia flags draped on their shoulders are among about 50 people apparently gathered for the Reclaim Australia protest. It’s unlikely they will clash directly with the anti-racist protesters, with police patrolling a “sterile” or buffer zone running across two city blocks. Police were forced to use capsicum spray to control crowds at protests in Melbourne and hundreds of officers blocked streets in front of Parliament House, separating the opposing groups. In NSW, senior police have put would-be protesters on notice. Assistant Commissioner of the NSW Police Alan Clark said the key would be to keep the rallies calm. “I think the key to this operation is to keep two groups separate. We’ve been negotiating with them to try and achieve that and if we can’t achieve it by negotiation we’ll need it to achieve by police operation,” he said today. “We will not tolerate any criminal, anti-social or dangerous behaviour; if you choose to do the wrong thing you’ll be removed and dealt with appropriately. “The same goes for anyone who attempts to cause disharmony or incite conflict with those who may hold opposing views.” QUEENSLAND Queensland Reclaim Australia rallies are planned for the Gold Coast, Cairns, Mackay, Rockhampton, Toowoomba and the Sunshine Coast. Queensland political figure George Christensen will also attend an anti-Islam rally today. Mr Christensen, who represents the seat of Dawson, has agreed to address a Reclaim Australia rally in Mackay. He said on his Facebook page he wanted to “support people who seek to defend our Australian way of life, our culture and our freedoms from the threat of radical Islam”. He said “hell (would) freeze over” before he would give in to those trying to stop him from attending the rally. Liberal National Party Queensland senator Matthew Canavan said Mr Christensen should be judged by what he says, not who he stands alongside. “George is perfectly free, big enough, ugly enough to look after himself,” Mr Canavan told ABC Radio. WESTERN AUSTRALIA A Reclaim Australia rally is planned for Perth, which is set to take place at Solidarity Party opposite Parliament House at 1pm. The organisation’s Facebook page said the peaceful rally was part of a national Reclaim Australia campaign to show “the people of Australia that we have had enough of minorities not fitting in and trying to change our Australian cultural identity”. TASMANIA.....

tbc

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........TASMANIA An anti-Islam rally planned for Hobart is due to include a stop-off at the city’s ABC headquarters where protesters will denounce the public broadcaster. The event is being co-organised by Reclaim Australia and United Patriots Front, with a spokesman for the latter, named only as Danny, saying the ABC detour has been inspired by the decision of Q&A producers to allow convicted criminal Zaky Mallah into the live studio audience to ask a question of a government minister. “We’re going to let them know that we think the ABC is unbalanced, biased and at times dangerous, particularly in relation to Q&A,” he told News Corp. “They put a known terrorist on their show and gave him airtime ... so we need to go by and give them a serve.” The rally is due to start at 10.30am (AEST) on Sunday at Hobart’s Franklin Square, moving through the Elizabeth Street Mall, past the ABC, and ending at the cenotaph. Originally published as Protesters want ‘scum off our streets’ ......

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/pauline-hanson-calls-for-calm-at-reclaim-australia-rallies-in-sydney-queensland-perth-and-hobart/story-fnihslxi-1227447659928

Enquiring mind wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:32pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 18th, 2015 at 10:12pm: the lefts went there on purpose to cause mayhem. they should have kept away. They should be banned.

They should be sent back where they came from.

Victoria Greens acting leader Nina Springle said state and federal leaders should condemn Reclaim Australia and reject fear-mongering.
   
“The so-called Reclaim Australia movement should be called out for what it is: a small but organised group of people stirring up racist fears about Muslims in Australia,” she said.

“It’s regrettable that there’s a fringe element that wants to undermine this multicultural harmony.”

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 11:36am:

she deserved much worse than that.

What do you think she deserves Sprint? I'm interested.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 1:20pm:

Victoria Greens acting leader Nina Springle said state and federal leaders should condemn Reclaim Australia and reject fear-mongering.     “The so-called Reclaim Australia movement should be called out for what it is: a small but organised group of people stirring up racist fears about Muslims in Australia,” she said. “It’s regrettable that there’s a fringe element that wants to undermine this multicultural harmony.”

Gotta agree

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...........“The point is Islam isn’t just a faith, it’s also a totalitarian ideology and there are substantial percentages of Islamists who do want to take over,” he said...........

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/reclaim-australia-race-rallies-police-use-capsicum-spray/story-e6frg6nf-1227446984748

Honestly, I don't see why this socialist alliance sees the need to stage these counter protests. I mean 200 rednecks for effs sake - just leave them alone and let them remain obscure and unnoticed. They don't deserve this publicity.

At least the Australian Defence League don't attack the cops and hold up beheading signs.

I saw a couple of anaemic looking do gooders thrown around like rag dolls by thd police. It was fantastic!

“It’s regrettable that there’s a fringe element that wants to undermine this multicultural harmony.” AAP

Multiculturalism will never be harmonious. That's the nature of the beast

Multiculturalism.....is it popular.
I think it is, AS LONG AS the new cultures really say thank you to the fine people of australia.

So i think the vietnamese, by and large, the indians, the chinese, the japanese (mainly tourists) and certainly a lot of the lebanese , the turks, the greeks, the italians.

They are great people and have improved the country.

But no one wants the socialist alliance and their angry, neurotic, anxious, emotional hordes of losers TELLING the rest of australia HOW ITS GOING TO BE.

I agree with Gandalf.
In so many ways these angry loser feral "rent a crowd" are such a trun off that one almost ends up supporting Hansen and her ilk by default.

The lack of emotional intelligence and the lack of understanding shown by the left is breath taking.

Rudd and Gillard MUST have done polling that showed australia did not want open borders. Otherwise why did they come down with their Manus Island solution.

So, if we assume the majority of australians have SOME unease about multi culturalism, then why, on earth, would the left just constantly fuel this unease with their ratbag, chaotic, anarchist , show-pony, media whoring.
They are seriously the most mindless individuals.

i think its great only 200 people turn up.
The majority of australians dont feel the need to be egotistical show offs like the socialist alliance. We just get on with it.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 6:27pm:

one almost ends up supporting Hansen and her ilk by default.

I heard her speak today.

I was surprised how many blatant lies were in her speech.  If your haven't bothered to check snopes before sprouting "facts" at a gathering you probably should seriously assess your abilities.

what did she say?

That there are certain areas in Sydney that police aren't allowed was the most notable.

I could listen to it again, there were more.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 6:27pm:

one almost ends up supporting Hansen and her ilk by default.

So, you support blatant lies?

Yes?

What's the weather like today in W.A (White Australia), Pecker?

double plus good wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 7:47pm:

What's the weather like today in W.A (White Australia), Pecker?

Wet and windy.

Just like your mum.

She says 'Hi', by the way.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 8:58pm:

Quote: Reclaim Australia protesters have clashed with anti-racism groups and police have used capsicum spray at opposing rallies in Melbourne.    The steps and roads around state parliament have been blocked and police lines are dividing groups, including the Coalition Against Racism and Fascism and right-wing Reclaim Australia. Police have been forced to use capsicum spray to quell crowds and break up tense encounters between the various groups, with anti-racism protesters labelling the others fascists and Nazis. At one stage, anti-racism groups got around police lines, clashing physically with a Reclaim Australia supporter. A Victoria Police spokeswoman said there had been only “minor violence” and the situation appeared under control. Reclaim Australia protesters have been seen carrying signs saying “patriotism is not racism” and “stop non-white immigration”. Their numbers are set to swell on Saturday afternoon as they are joined by members of a splinter group, the United Patriots Front. Rallies are also planned by United Against Islamophobia and Rally Against Racism groups. Coalition Against Racism and Fascism spokeswoman Vashti Kenway said anti-racism groups were mobilising to send a message that their rivals’ views were not acceptable. “The clear message is that Melburnians aren’t going to stand for the kind of far right racist, sexist, homophobic attitudes that have really been embodied in both the United Patriots Front and Reclaim Australia, and that we’re prepared to take a stand in the city, that we’re prepared to say Melbourne is not the place for those kinds of attitudes,” she said. Ms Kenway accused police of overreacting and creating unwarranted hype around the demonstrations but said the protest would continue despite the heavy security. Victoria Greens acting leader Nina Springle said state and federal leaders should condemn Reclaim Australia and reject fear-mongering.     “The so-called Reclaim Australia movement should be called out for what it is: a small but organised group of people stirring up racist fears about Muslims in Australia,” she said. “It’s regrettable that there’s a fringe element that wants to undermine this multicultural harmony.” AAP http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/reclaim-australia-race-rallies-police-use-capsicum-spray/story-e6frg6nf-1227446984748

Did you go sprint or are you like your beloved Abort with zero conviction ?

aquascoot wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 6:27pm:

Multiculturalism.....is it popular. I think it is, AS LONG AS the new cultures really say thank you to the fine people of australia. So i think the vietnamese, by and large, the indians, the chinese, the japanese (mainly tourists) and certainly a lot of the lebanese , the turks, the greeks, the italians. They are great people and have improved the country. But no one wants the socialist alliance and their angry, neurotic, anxious, emotional hordes of losers TELLING the rest of australia HOW ITS GOING TO BE. I agree with Gandalf. In so many ways these angry loser feral "rent a crowd" are such a trun off that one almost ends up supporting Hansen and her ilk by default. The lack of emotional intelligence and the lack of understanding shown by the left is breath taking. Rudd and Gillard MUST have done polling that showed australia did not want open borders. Otherwise why did they come down with their Manus Island solution. So, if we assume the majority of australians have SOME unease about multi culturalism, then why, on earth, would the left just constantly fuel this unease with their ratbag, chaotic, anarchist , show-pony, media whoring. They are seriously the most mindless individuals. i think its great only 200 people turn up. The majority of australians dont feel the need to be egotistical show offs like the socialist alliance. We just get on with it.

Wasnt it the asian invasion with you right wing nutters about 15 years back , italians and greeks before that , jesus who ya gonna hate next when you get bored of them  ::)

Its time wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 7:54pm:

Wasnt it the asian invasion with you right wing nutters about 15 years back

In my day it was the Vietnamese in Cabramatta and the drug triads. That as well as the usual whinging about Aborigines, family reunion immigration, refugees, Japanese and Chinese investors etc. Then Pauline came along and united them all.

Whats funny though is that muslims were never top of the agenda back then.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 8:14pm:

Whats funny though is that muslims were never top of the agenda back then.

Everyone just used to think they were quaint and harmless ... right up until they decided to start taking their lunatic book of insane garbage literally.  :(

What was made quite clear at these rallies was that the insane left were there primarily to attack the police, its a bit of sport for them apparently, years of PC garbage has taught the smelly feral protesters that the police are a soft target that can be attacked with impunity.

In fact if the police weren't there they wouldn't have turned up at all, they certainly wouldn't have had the courage to confront the other pack of m0rons if the police weren't their to protect their idiotic arses. 

innocentbystander. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 9:32pm:

In fact if the police weren't there they wouldn't have turned up at all, they certainly wouldn't have had the courage to confront the other pack of m0rons if the police weren't their to protect their idiotic arses.

You are foolish if that is the way you read it.

Look at the HUGE number difference between the reclaim and the counter-protesters, and the fact that police had to escort people into the rally through them.

Stratos wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 9:38pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 9:32pm: In fact if the police weren't there they wouldn't have turned up at all, they certainly wouldn't have had the courage to confront the other pack of m0rons if the police weren't their to protect their idiotic arses. You are foolish if that is the way you read it. Look at the HUGE number difference between the reclaim and the counter-protesters, and the fact that police had to escort people into the rally through them.

Most of them looked like they had been sniffing glue all morning, they wouldn't have needed a police escort if the police didn't turn up, they weren't attacking the other protestors they were attacking the coppers because they are cowardly little leftist scum that knows full well that the police will get in a whole heap of sh!t if they harm a single hair on that empty head of theirs, unlike the other m0rons there that were probably the type to bash you to death over a parking spot. 

innocentbystander. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 9:43pm:

knows full well that the police will get in a whole heap of sh!t if they harm a single hair on that empty head of theirs

You must have been watching a different protest, or removed yourself entirely from reality.

My condolences.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 8:14pm:

Its time wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 7:54pm: Wasnt it the asian invasion with you right wing nutters about 15 years back In my day it was the Vietnamese in Cabramatta and the drug triads. That as well as the usual whinging about Aborigines, family reunion immigration, refugees, Japanese and Chinese investors etc. Then Pauline came along and united them all. Whats funny though is that muslims were never top of the agenda back then.

the vietnamese, the greeks, the italians, the chinese.
These groups have integrated well and reached out to "real australia'.
the chinese resturants are a great feature of every country town.
the greek food festival is the biggest food festival in brisbane.

i call on muslims to stop the snarling and anger and victim status and reach out to real australia.
if every muslim family had a barbeque this sunday and invited a dozens aussies over for a feed on morrocan lamb and some belly dancing, the problem would be solved.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:49am:

he vietnamese, the greeks, the italians, the chinese. These groups have integrated well and reached out to "real australia'.

and yet the rednecks used to whinge about being overtaken by them back in their day too ... the arguments always remains the same, only the race changes

innocentbystander. wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:54pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 18th, 2015 at 10:25pm: No protest or counter protest is going to make the Muslim problem go away. It is only going to get worse. Well thats exactly what the left want, its in their DNA, they are genetically predisposed to sh!t in their own nest, whether that is by fiscal irresponsibility, poor immigration choices, socialism or communism, whatever it takes, it does not matter, the establishment must be smashed, the really sad part is most of them don't even realise what they are doing.

Its in the right's DNA, they are genetically predisposed to sh!t in everyone else's but their own nest.

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 9:39am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20th, 2015 at 7:49am: he vietnamese, the greeks, the italians, the chinese. These groups have integrated well and reached out to "real australia'. and yet the rednecks used to whinge about being overtaken by them back in their day too ... the arguments always remains the same, only the race changes

Like i said John, lets build a cohesive society and the quickest way to do that is for the muslim community to reach out and engage and the easiest route is through the stomach.
easy-peasy

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

My understanding is Reclaim Aust has well marketed legally approved protests planned for months ahead. the left had a hastily planned rally timed to finish just before the Reclaim March was due to start. Once the leftys were all fired up, they walked around to the Reclaim Austs march and caused the violence. the lefts went there on purpose to cause mayhem. they should have kept away.

http://www.brainyquote.com/photos/e/edmundburke377528.jpg





The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil
is for good men to do nothing.


- Edmund Burke

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:49am:

the vietnamese, the greeks, the italians, the CHINESE. These groups have INTEGRATED well and reached out to "real australia'.

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2015/06/09/1227390/326062-b2f42324-0d6d-11e5-b08a-ef2f23067d2e.jpg

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/chinese-language-signs-urge-buyers-to-buy-into-sydney-real-estate/story-fnpn0zn5-1227390326116


Real estate advertisements in Mandarin. Mind you this is not in China, but right in the heart of Sydney Australia. Basically what this real estate agent meant is that he ONLY serves and caters to chinese people.

The chinese have integrated well huh?

Jackness wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 5:55pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20th, 2015 at 7:49am: the vietnamese, the greeks, the italians, the CHINESE. These groups have INTEGRATED well and reached out to "real australia'. http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2015/06/09/1227390/326062-b2f42324-0d6d-11e5-b08a-ef2f23067d2e.jpg http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/chinese-language-signs-urge-buyers-to-buy-into-sydney-real-estate/story-fnpn0zn5-1227390326116 Real estate advertisements in Mandarin. Mind you this is not in China, but right in the heart of Sydney Australia. Basically what this real estate agent meant is that he ONLY serves and caters to chinese people. The chinese have integrated well huh?

they've integrated very well.
in 10 years time when a lefty wants a job, he'll need to fill in the application in mandarin and work for $5 an hour.(cash in hand)

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 6:04pm:

they've integrated very well. in 10 years time when a lefty wants a job, he'll need to fill in the application in mandarin and work for $5 an hour.(cash in hand)

This just shows the idiot you are when you don't get the point that I'm trying to convey. If my statement is too much for your understanding, then I'll make it simpler for you.

What i'm trying to say is that when you put up advertisements (especially real estate ones) in your native language (as opposed to the national language, English) catering only to your race and community, then that shows you have not integrated well into the mainstream society.

So in other words NO the chinese have not integrated well into the Australian society.

Jackness wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 6:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20th, 2015 at 6:04pm: they've integrated very well. in 10 years time when a lefty wants a job, he'll need to fill in the application in mandarin and work for $5 an hour.(cash in hand) This just shows the idiot you are when you don't get the point that I'm trying to convey. If my statement is too much for your understanding, then I'll make it simpler for you. What i'm trying to say is that when you put up advertisements in your native language (as opposed to the national language, English) catering only to your race and community, then that shows you have not integrated well into the mainstream society. So in other words NO the chinese have not integrated well into the Australian society.

i know mate, i know.  My point is because they are smarter, work harder and are much better capitalists, they are going to take over and we are going to have to assimilate into the new asian australia. Not a bad thing either. It seems to me that only asia aspires to true rightard beliefs and the rightard code of honour.
i was in vietnam a few years back and the kids were so smart, so resilient, so aspirational, so ambitious, so obviously going to succeed. It made me proud to talk to the mum and dad who were already planning to send these little terriers to the states to get degrees.
You see, its only right and its only natural that the alphas, the rightards, the movers and shakers, the risk takers should rule.
This is why asia is in the ascendency and the west and europe are floundering.
We are led by socialist european with big welfare, socialist obama and socialist tony.
They do nothing but punish the entrepreneur and steal from him to suckle the leaners.
But the asian!!!
He understands how the world works.
Get on board mate.
Learn an asian language and get your kids into a private school full of smart asians.
Its your only hope.

I dont think the CFMEU and the socialist alliance are going to stand up to the ruthless asian businessman.
Happy days  ;) ;)

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 6:04pm:

Jackness wrote on Jul 20th, 2015 at 5:55pm: aquascoot wrote on Jul 20th, 2015 at 7:49am: the vietnamese, the greeks, the italians, the CHINESE. These groups have INTEGRATED well and reached out to "real australia'. http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2015/06/09/1227390/326062-b2f42324-0d6d-11e5-b08a-ef2f23067d2e.jpg http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/chinese-language-signs-urge-buyers-to-buy-into-sydney-real-estate/story-fnpn0zn5-1227390326116 Real estate advertisements in Mandarin. Mind you this is not in China, but right in the heart of Sydney Australia. Basically what this real estate agent meant is that he ONLY serves and caters to chinese people. The chinese have integrated well huh? they've integrated very well. in 10 years time when a lefty wants a job, he'll need to fill in the application in mandarin and work for $5 an hour.(cash in hand)

....and righties fill in the application in English and work for $200 an hour?.....in ya dreams aquascoot. It will still be the 1% and the 99% and you will still be part of the 99%.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

i know mate, i know.  My point is because they are smarter, work harder and are much better capitalists, they are going to take over and we are going to have to assimilate into the new asian australia. Not a bad thing either. It seems to me that only asia aspires to true rightard beliefs and the rightard code of honour. i was in vietnam a few years back and the kids were so smart, so resilient, so aspirational, so ambitious, so obviously going to succeed. It made me proud to talk to the mum and dad who were already planning to send these little terriers to the states to get degrees.

Then fking migrate over to Asia if you love it so much over there.

Jackness wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20th, 2015 at 6:19pm: i know mate, i know.  My point is because they are smarter, work harder and are much better capitalists, they are going to take over and we are going to have to assimilate into the new asian australia. Not a bad thing either. It seems to me that only asia aspires to true rightard beliefs and the rightard code of honour. i was in vietnam a few years back and the kids were so smart, so resilient, so aspirational, so ambitious, so obviously going to succeed. It made me proud to talk to the mum and dad who were already planning to send these little terriers to the states to get degrees. Then fking migrate over to Asia if you love it so much over there.

why ??

the big spending, deficit loving leftie and rightie governments are going to sell the place to the asians so pansi can have free false teeth and a cruise on P and O every year.

I'll just wait here and embrace the new asian overlords who will probably put an end to this rorting by australian leaners

Look at that picture of Mr Wu from LJ Hooker.
probably works 7 days a week. has his kids in a great private school.
saving for his 4th investment property whilst pansi is at a socialist alliance rally or down the pokies.

I hope one day to meet him, shake his hand and ask if he has any smart children to marry off to mine, thereby helping my dynastic succession plans

Ironically, fundamentalist Muslims killed 32 leftists in Turkey the other day.

Read about it here: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33606291

Yeah, those dangerous lefties protesting for community harmony and solidarity, they are the real monsters, not the UPF who call for Terrorist attacks against Non-Whites and Left Wing political groups, celebrate and call for the murder of activists and engage in violent death threats against people who are critical of them.

Though nice to see that despite all the UPF's internet tough guy online and threatening the murder of the leftist counter-rally they are sent running when confronted with what is largely left wing students.

The sad thing is following trends in the US and Europe, it's only a matter of time before one of these nutters starts murdering people.

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 11:01pm:

Yeah, those dangerous lefties protesting for community harmony and solidarity, they are the real monsters, not the UPF who call for Terrorist attacks against Non-Whites and Left Wing political groups, celebrate and call for the murder of activists and engage in violent death threats against people who are critical of them. Though nice to see that despite all the UPF's internet tough guy online and threatening the murder of the leftist counter-rally they are sent running when confronted with what is largely left wing students. The sad thing is following trends in the US and Europe, it's only a matter of time before one of these nutters starts murdering people.

Well, fundamentalist Muslims have already started murdering people, yet you seem to have little to say about that. We better protest against those nasty white people instead who may happen to murder someone, someday. That'll fix the problem.  :D


Anyway, isn't it ironic that those lefties in Australia had their brethren murdered by the people they're protecting.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 11:11pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 11:01pm: Yeah, those dangerous lefties protesting for community harmony and solidarity, they are the real monsters, not the UPF who call for Terrorist attacks against Non-Whites and Left Wing political groups, celebrate and call for the murder of activists and engage in violent death threats against people who are critical of them. Though nice to see that despite all the UPF's internet tough guy online and threatening the murder of the leftist counter-rally they are sent running when confronted with what is largely left wing students. The sad thing is following trends in the US and Europe, it's only a matter of time before one of these nutters starts murdering people. Well, fundamentalist Muslims have already started murdering people, yet you seem to have little to say about that. We better protest against those nasty white people instead who may happen to murder someone, someday. That'll fix the problem.  :D Anyway, isn't it ironic that those lefties in Australia had their brethren murdered by the people they're protecting.

Yet I don't blame all Muslims for a minority, like I don't consider all conservatives to be insane UPF psychopaths.

One of the most hilarious things about you right wingers is that you spout your hatred against Islam (under the guise of hating Daesh) and the attack the left yet the number one fighting force against ISIL/ISIS/Daesh is a force of Communists and Feminists, the PYD with their YPG and YPJ forces which have seized almost the entirety of Northern Syria and are already within Kilometers of the Daesh capital.

Also your views, along with the rhetoric of reclaim would be considered horrific to PYD and their forces as they stress the importance of harmony between ethnic and religious groups as they lay the groundwork for a new Communist/Socialist society in Northern Syria.

Also Right Wing Terrorism is considered a larger threat in the western world than Islamo-Fascism. far-right groups have killed numerous people and engaged in several massacres in the US and Europe and have planned to carry out horrific attacks.

Just what OP needs...another leftard.

double plus good wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:51am:

Just what OP needs...another leftard.

:D :D
leftards rarely have businesses to run. they are , by definition not movers and shakers and engaged in the economy. This gives them free time to attend rallies and post dribble on the internet

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:50pm:

Ironically, fundamentalist Muslims killed 32 leftists in Turkey the other day. Read about it here: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33606291

It's sort of a win-win situation

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:45am:

It's sort of a win-win situation

Killing innocent people - a win

- Sprintcyclist, 23/7/2015

Congrats on taking place as the most despicable person on the forum.

Stratos wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:50am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 7:45am: It's sort of a win-win situation Killing innocent people - a win - Sprintcyclist, 23/7/2015 Congrats on taking place as the most despicable person on the forum.

::) the big baby is just attention seeking , we all know he doesn't know much, it's debatable he even suspects a thing.

Stratos wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:50am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 7:45am: It's sort of a win-win situation Killing innocent people - a win - Sprintcyclist, 23/7/2015 Congrats on taking place as the most despicable person on the forum.

Thanks, it took a lot of hard work.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:50pm:

Ironically, fundamentalist Muslims killed 32 leftists in Turkey the other day. Read about it here: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33606291

the irony is awesome

double plus good wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:51am:

Just what OP needs...another leftard.

and an insane one at that.  Most of what he says are lies and the rest exaggerations and errors of fact.

yep, just another typical leftie green.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 9:38am:

double plus good wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 4:51am: Just what OP needs...another leftard. and an insane one at that.  Most of what he says are lies and the rest exaggerations and errors of fact. yep, just another typical leftie green.

Exaggerations?

Like you know crap about the conflict? PYD, PKK and Turkish Communist party forces are within 40 kilometers of Al Raqqah, they have linked Cizre and Kobane which has seriously cut off supplies to Daesh from Turkey and the only thing stopping them from moving across to link Afrin is threat of Turkish retaliation. They have been by far the most effective fighting force against Daesh taking huge swaths of land from Daesh and linking almost the entire north of Syria into a Communist Confederation.

When Daesh had Sinjar surrounded and the Barzani's right wing Peshmerga fled and left the Yazidi's defenceless to be massacred, who came in and saved the day? The PYD and PKK, cutting an entire corridor through the ISIS forces in little time allowing the tens of thousands of refugees to escape into safe Kurdish territory, only then did the west and the Peshmerga show up, claiming "They were getting reinforcements" and took the entire credit for the operation. The PKK and PYD also work in Iraq training local militias and the Peshmerga as they have 30+ years experience fighting Iran, Iraqi Government, Syrian Government and Turkish Government.

So please, tell me how the "left" loves Daesh when we are the only force that has been effective in fighting them. If you actually want to trace Daesh ideology, it doesn't take long to see that much of the batshit Fascist ideology that is now present in radical Islam was actually taught by right wingers from the west which is why much of the propaganda is literally 1:1 lifted from early 20th century racist european propaganda and racial theory.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:49am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 8:14pm: Its time wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 7:54pm: Wasnt it the asian invasion with you right wing nutters about 15 years back In my day it was the Vietnamese in Cabramatta and the drug triads. That as well as the usual whinging about Aborigines, family reunion immigration, refugees, Japanese and Chinese investors etc. Then Pauline came along and united them all. Whats funny though is that muslims were never top of the agenda back then. the vietnamese, the greeks, the italians, the chinese. These groups have integrated well and reached out to "real australia'. the chinese resturants are a great feature of every country town. the greek food festival is the biggest food festival in brisbane. i call on muslims to stop the snarling and anger and victim status and reach out to real australia. if every muslim family had a barbeque this sunday and invited a dozens aussies over for a feed on morrocan lamb and some belly dancing, the problem would be solved.

Statistics show unemployment and crime rates amongst the Vietnamese descendants to be about as high as the rates amongst the Lebanese muslim descendants. And unemployment and crime is always the measure people use to argue that the Lebanese muslims have not integrated.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 1:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20th, 2015 at 7:49am: polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 8:14pm: Its time wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 7:54pm: Wasnt it the asian invasion with you right wing nutters about 15 years back In my day it was the Vietnamese in Cabramatta and the drug triads. That as well as the usual whinging about Aborigines, family reunion immigration, refugees, Japanese and Chinese investors etc. Then Pauline came along and united them all. Whats funny though is that muslims were never top of the agenda back then. the vietnamese, the greeks, the italians, the chinese. These groups have integrated well and reached out to "real australia'. the chinese resturants are a great feature of every country town. the greek food festival is the biggest food festival in brisbane. i call on muslims to stop the snarling and anger and victim status and reach out to real australia. if every muslim family had a barbeque this sunday and invited a dozens aussies over for a feed on morrocan lamb and some belly dancing, the problem would be solved. Statistics show unemployment and crime rates amongst the Vietnamese descendants to be about as high as the rates amongst the Lebanese muslim descendants. And unemployment and crime is always the measure people use to argue that the Lebanese muslims have not integrated.

Yep, also these idiots fail to remember the EXACT same campaign against the Vietnamese.

"Violent thugs running drug cartels!"

"Fifth Column undercover Communist insurgents ready to commit terror attacks!"

"Communist Vietnamese drug cartels terrorize good god fearing white people"

"Vietnamese taking over Australia and they are going to introduce Communist law!"

In fact, the rise of neo-fascism and extreme xenophobia in Australian politics is DIRECTLY from anti-Vietnamese propaganda. Pauline Hanson didn't give a bugger about Muslims, she was rallying against the Vietnamese, Howard stole that and rallied against Asians during the 90s.

It was only after 9/11 that the quiet Muslim communities "Those guys that make kebabs for you to eat when are off your head on pingas after seeing Tiesto and PvD, it's the 90s baby!" became the target of Australian xenophobia and the Vietnamese became "good businessmen and well integrated" (just like the rallying against the Greeks, Japanese/Koreans and Germans before them)

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 12:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 9:38am: double plus good wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 4:51am: Just what OP needs...another leftard. and an insane one at that.  Most of what he says are lies and the rest exaggerations and errors of fact. yep, just another typical leftie green. Exaggerations? Like you know crap about the conflict? PYD, PKK and Turkish Communist party forces are within 40 kilometers of Al Raqqah, they have linked Cizre and Kobane which has seriously cut off supplies to Daesh from Turkey and the only thing stopping them from moving across to link Afrin is threat of Turkish retaliation. They have been by far the most effective fighting force against Daesh taking huge swaths of land from Daesh and linking almost the entire north of Syria into a Communist Confederation. When Daesh had Sinjar surrounded and the Barzani's right wing Peshmerga fled and left the Yazidi's defenceless to be massacred, who came in and saved the day? The PYD and PKK, cutting an entire corridor through the ISIS forces in little time allowing the tens of thousands of refugees to escape into safe Kurdish territory, only then did the west and the Peshmerga show up, claiming "They were getting reinforcements" and took the entire credit for the operation. The PKK and PYD also work in Iraq training local militias and the Peshmerga as they have 30+ years experience fighting Iran, Iraqi Government, Syrian Government and Turkish Government. So please, tell me how the "left" loves Daesh when we are the only force that has been effective in fighting them. If you actually want to trace Daesh ideology, it doesn't take long to see that much of the batshit Fascist ideology that is now present in radical Islam was actually taught by right wingers from the west which is why much of the propaganda is literally 1:1 lifted from early 20th century racist european propaganda and racial theory.

someone is apparently unaware of the massive bombings and so on from the RIGHT-WING GOVTS which have been the only thing effective in stopping ISIS.

You are just another far-left idiot.  seen your type plenty of times before.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 1:45pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 12:37pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 9:38am: double plus good wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 4:51am: Just what OP needs...another leftard. and an insane one at that.  Most of what he says are lies and the rest exaggerations and errors of fact. yep, just another typical leftie green. Exaggerations? Like you know crap about the conflict? PYD, PKK and Turkish Communist party forces are within 40 kilometers of Al Raqqah, they have linked Cizre and Kobane which has seriously cut off supplies to Daesh from Turkey and the only thing stopping them from moving across to link Afrin is threat of Turkish retaliation. They have been by far the most effective fighting force against Daesh taking huge swaths of land from Daesh and linking almost the entire north of Syria into a Communist Confederation. When Daesh had Sinjar surrounded and the Barzani's right wing Peshmerga fled and left the Yazidi's defenceless to be massacred, who came in and saved the day? The PYD and PKK, cutting an entire corridor through the ISIS forces in little time allowing the tens of thousands of refugees to escape into safe Kurdish territory, only then did the west and the Peshmerga show up, claiming "They were getting reinforcements" and took the entire credit for the operation. The PKK and PYD also work in Iraq training local militias and the Peshmerga as they have 30+ years experience fighting Iran, Iraqi Government, Syrian Government and Turkish Government. So please, tell me how the "left" loves Daesh when we are the only force that has been effective in fighting them. If you actually want to trace Daesh ideology, it doesn't take long to see that much of the batshit Fascist ideology that is now present in radical Islam was actually taught by right wingers from the west which is why much of the propaganda is literally 1:1 lifted from early 20th century racist european propaganda and racial theory. someone is apparently unaware of the massive bombings and so on from the RIGHT-WING GOVTS which have been the only thing effective in stopping ISIS. You are just another far-left idiot.  seen your type plenty of times before.

The sporadic bombing campaign while has helped, is not everything and while it helps disrupting Daesh convoys, does little in urban combat which most battles take place. You can't win a war from the skies. Also there has been little bombing against Daesh forces in the massive mobilization and push  towards Al-Raqqah and literally no bombing in Al-Hasakah.

The truth is that the PYD and PKK are just superior fighters to everyone in the region by a large margin, even in the most dire moments of Kobane, you had maybe <700 PYD holding off several Daesh battalions and dozens of tanks for over a month without a single bomb dropped from Western forces.

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 1:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 1:45pm: Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 12:37pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 9:38am: double plus good wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 4:51am: Just what OP needs...another leftard. and an insane one at that.  Most of what he says are lies and the rest exaggerations and errors of fact. yep, just another typical leftie green. Exaggerations? Like you know crap about the conflict? PYD, PKK and Turkish Communist party forces are within 40 kilometers of Al Raqqah, they have linked Cizre and Kobane which has seriously cut off supplies to Daesh from Turkey and the only thing stopping them from moving across to link Afrin is threat of Turkish retaliation. They have been by far the most effective fighting force against Daesh taking huge swaths of land from Daesh and linking almost the entire north of Syria into a Communist Confederation. When Daesh had Sinjar surrounded and the Barzani's right wing Peshmerga fled and left the Yazidi's defenceless to be massacred, who came in and saved the day? The PYD and PKK, cutting an entire corridor through the ISIS forces in little time allowing the tens of thousands of refugees to escape into safe Kurdish territory, only then did the west and the Peshmerga show up, claiming "They were getting reinforcements" and took the entire credit for the operation. The PKK and PYD also work in Iraq training local militias and the Peshmerga as they have 30+ years experience fighting Iran, Iraqi Government, Syrian Government and Turkish Government. So please, tell me how the "left" loves Daesh when we are the only force that has been effective in fighting them. If you actually want to trace Daesh ideology, it doesn't take long to see that much of the batshit Fascist ideology that is now present in radical Islam was actually taught by right wingers from the west which is why much of the propaganda is literally 1:1 lifted from early 20th century racist european propaganda and racial theory. someone is apparently unaware of the massive bombings and so on from the RIGHT-WING GOVTS which have been the only thing effective in stopping ISIS. You are just another far-left idiot.  seen your type plenty of times before. The sporadic bombing campaign while has helped, is not everything and while it helps disrupting Daesh convoys, does little in urban combat which most battles take place. You can't win a war from the skies. Also there has been little bombing against Daesh forces in the massive mobilization and push  towards Al-Raqqah and literally no bombing in Al-Hasakah. The truth is that the PYD and PKK are just superior fighters to everyone in the region by a large margin, even in the most dire moments of Kobane, you had maybe <700 PYD holding off several Daesh battalions and dozens of tanks.

yeah the bombing that has killed nearly a third of the ISIS forces is ineffective.

Not met an old-school commie for quite a while. I thought you were all dead. Your political ideology is certainly so.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:04pm:

yeah the bombing that has killed nearly a third of the ISIS forces is ineffective. Not met an old-school commie for quite a while. I thought you were all dead. Your political ideology is certainly so.

Killed a third of Daesh forces? Hahaha, what? It's not even known how large Daesh are, estimates of ground troops range from 30,000 to 150,000.

Again, you can't win a war from the skies, this is basic military strategy 101.

Also again, the PYD and PKK scored siginificant victories and carved out huge territory from Daesh long before the bombing campaigns even began. There are currently no bombing campaigns taking place around Al-Hasakah which is the major battle taking place which the PYD alone turned around.

Most of the bombing is targeted in Iraq anyway suppording the Peshmerga. Bombing in Syria has been sporadic at best and targeted at Daesh HQ and convoys.

There really isn't any point debating me on this, I'm in personal contact with members of military forces fighting Daesh from the PYD forces to the FSA factions getting news on Syria in almost a daily basis.

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:12pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 2:04pm: yeah the bombing that has killed nearly a third of the ISIS forces is ineffective. Not met an old-school commie for quite a while. I thought you were all dead. Your political ideology is certainly so. Killed a third of Daesh forces? Hahaha, what? It's not even known how large Daesh are, estimates of ground troops range from 30,000 to 150,000. Again, you can't win a war from the skies, this is basic military strategy 101. Also again, the PYD and PKK scored siginificant victories and carved out huge territory from Daesh long before the bombing campaigns even began. There are currently no bombing campaigns taking place around Al-Hasakah which is the major battle taking place which the PYD alone turned around. Most of the bombing is targeted in Iraq anyway suppording the Peshmerga. Bombing in Syria has been sporadic at best and targeted at Daesh HQ and convoys. There really isn't any point debating me on this, I'm in personal contact with members of military forces fighting Daesh from the PYD forces to the FSA factions getting news on Syria in almost a daily basis.

your credibility isnt very high so claiming 'special information' isnt going to help.  if the right-wing govts stopped their attacks on ISIS your mob of petty goons would be overrun very quickly. The claim you cannot win a war from the air is a bit simplistic at best. Or are the worlds air-forces a bit pointless?  why dont you ask the estimated 15,000 dead ISIS idiots - all killed from bombings.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:20pm:

your credibility isnt very high

You're right Longy - far more credible to say something like one third of Daesh has been wiped out by US led bombing - based on nothing at all.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:39pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 2:20pm: your credibility isnt very high You're right Longy - far more credible to say something like one third of Daesh has been wiped out by US led bombing - based on nothing at all.

Tony told him. Must be true  ::)

Also looks like Reclaim were bringing guns to the protests which were seized by police.

Such peaceful protesters. Also activists I know are getting death threats from them.

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:09pm:

Also looks like Reclaim were bringing guns to the protests which were seized by police.

'Where did you hear that?

Stratos wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:20pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 4:09pm: Also looks like Reclaim were bringing guns to the protests which were seized by police. 'Where did you hear that?

3awdotcomdotau/news/revealed-firearm-seized-from-busload-of-protesters-heading-to-antiislam-rally-20150723-giinar

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:39pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 2:20pm: your credibility isnt very high You're right Longy - far more credible to say something like one third of Daesh has been wiped out by US led bombing - based on nothing at all.

you do know that was the allied military statement, not my own, right? The only regret is that it isnt 100%.  the world needs to be rid of these vermin. they are the nazis of our era.

Stratos wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:20pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2015 at 4:09pm: Also looks like Reclaim were bringing guns to the protests which were seized by police. 'Where did you hear that?

https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/29005305/gun-seized-before-reclaim-protest-in-vic/

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:35pm:

you do know that was the allied military statement, not my own, right?

still copy / pasting I see  :D :D :D :D