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Title: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by imcrookonit on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:01am
2200 fewer jobs in state
By DANIEL McCULLOCH July 9, 2015 The Examiner THE state government's promise to create 8000 new jobs is looking more and more tenuous every month, the opposition says. Tasmania's jobless rate climbed to 6.9 per cent in trend terms last month, up from 6.8 per cent in May. Australian Bureau of Statistics figures released on Thursday showed 2200 jobs had disappeared in the state since December, with half of them full-time positions. :( Deputy Premier Jeremy Rockliff said the figures vindicated the government's focus on creating jobs, and said there was clearly more work to do. But he pointed out the state's unemployment rate had fallen since the election and closed in on the national figure, which sits at 6 per cent in seasonally adjusted terms. "Tasmania is now heading in the right direction, our economy is growing, retail trade is at record highs, the building and construction sector is strong and importantly business confidence is high," he said. "It's critically important now that we consolidate the gains of the past 12 months, and build on the growing momentum." However, opposition finance spokesman Scott Bacon said the data should sound alarm bells for a government he claimed were taking a "hands off" approach. :( Mr Bacon said manufacturing, forestry and resources jobs were drying up across the state. "What we want to see from the government now is a long-term plan about diversifying our economy in regional areas," he said. Mr Bacon said the static participation rate, which sits at 60.7 per cent, was also a cause for concern. "We know this means people are less hopeful that they can find work here in Tasmania," he said. "That's why we want to see a clear direction set by the government, so people can have some sense of securing that they can work here in Tasmania." Mr Bacon said the government's 8000 jobs budget promise was appearing increasingly challenging. "Now we know that is becoming less and less likely as each month goes by," he said. :( |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by cods on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:02am
you should chat with your own party the greens about that crook... they have done an awful lot with shutting down the job market in Tassy..
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by gandalf on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:05am
Don't worry, I'm sure we can just continue blaming labor and greens for another couple of decades yet.
cods wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:02am:
see? :D |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by bogarde73 on Jul 10th, 2015 at 3:24pm
It's true though, especially regarding forestry & woodchipping.
On top of that you have so much of agriculture being bought by foreigners. Tourism is not going to be a big employment creator in a place like Tasmania. It's not a Queensland or a Bali. Maybe they should try going back to what they were good at. Offer to take over prison services for other states and build some jails. |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by longweekend58 on Jul 10th, 2015 at 4:41pm
you ban logging, you ban this and you ban that. you block this, halt that and delay soemthing else and then you wonder where the jobs went?
the Greens are the economy's worst enemy. |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by Dame Pansi on Jul 10th, 2015 at 6:41pm
Beautiful one day
Barren the next |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by The Mechanic on Jul 10th, 2015 at 6:59pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 6:41pm:
I tend to agree with your panzi but you just can't shut the entire state of Tasmania down to protect the trees.. you've only done half a job... you have to diversify and create other jobs at the same time to employ those that you have put out of work to protect the environment.. the Greens/Labor shut down all of the jobs but failed to create one new job.. idiots.. I would have said to the logging companies decades ago that they need to have sustainable logging.. plant forests... but they didn't plant hardly one bloody tree to save their own jobs.. it'll take another decade to stabilise Tassi.. at least.. but they do now need to protect their forest and environment as that's what tourists come to see.. which is about the only industry they have left down there... very sad for a Beautiful state.. :( |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by innocentbystander. on Jul 10th, 2015 at 8:16pm
The Greens believe that there are only two legitimate sources of income, welfare or working for the public service.
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by gandalf on Jul 10th, 2015 at 8:26pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 6:59pm:
Thats an argument for resource-rich third world countries - not for first world countries like Australia. If our only hope for our economy is to rape our environment clean - then we really are a basket case of a country. |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by The Grappler on Jul 10th, 2015 at 10:19pm
When were they ever there once prison guard at Port Arthur vanished?
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by Rider on Jul 11th, 2015 at 5:23am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 6:41pm:
It's called harvesting. Like growing vegetables but a bit bigger. Sustainable and creates wealth, jobs and pride. Probably three things missing in your world. |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by Armchair_Politician on Jul 11th, 2015 at 5:37am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 6:41pm:
What that picture conveniently doesn't show is the planting of new trees as part of sustainable logging practice. Try again, loser! |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by Dame Pansi on Jul 11th, 2015 at 7:22am polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 8:26pm:
That's right, if we are relying on forest re-growth for our survival, we are going to run out of time. |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by The Mechanic on Jul 11th, 2015 at 7:32am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 7:22am:
exactly right.. but in the mean time.. Ancient Forests down in Tasmania are being wiped out along with different species of trees.. full forests of leatherwood are being ripped from the face of the earth leaving others unemployed... such as bee keepers who produce the "World Renowned" leatherwood honey... and "IF" they bother to replant at all in Tassi.. they plant Trees.... not FORESTS... >:( and along with all of the destruction of forests and losing plant species... we'll lose some of Australia rare and endangered wildlife.... it makes me sick... >:( |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by The Mechanic on Jul 11th, 2015 at 7:57am
THE FACTS
• Tasmania’s old growth forests are home to the world’s tallest hardwood trees and a wealth of threatened wildlife such as the Tasmanian Wedge Tailed Eagle, the Swift Parrot and the Giant Fresh Water Crayfish just to name a couple • Areas of forest that have received calls for World Heritage Nomination are still being clearfelled and woodchipped and their native wildlife deliberately poisoned and shot >:( • Over 10,000 football fields of native forests are logged every year on public land. This is an area equivalent to 200 square kilometers, or over 500 times the size of the Royal Botanic Gardens in Melbourne • Tasmania’s Tall wet eucalypt forest has borne the brunt of this logging and clearing for plantations 90% of native forests logged end up as woodchips • The rate of forest clearance and subsequent conversion to plantation is the highest in Australia • The estimated number of jobs in logging Tasmania’s old growth forests is about 325. The estimated number of jobs that would be created by protecting them and re-configuring mills is well over 900. |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by ImSpartacus2 on Jul 11th, 2015 at 8:04am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 7:32am:
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by ImSpartacus2 on Jul 11th, 2015 at 8:15am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 7:57am:
THE FACTS;This isn't just happening in Tasmania. I just came back from the Amazon (wonderful trip, thank you) and same thing is happening there. Everything that took nature billions of years to create is being decimated and turned into plastic so that a few in stretch limos can have more money then they deserve or need. Capitalism is destroying the earth and everything and everyone on it. |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by Rider on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:16am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 7:57am:
WOW did you say 200 Sq km......you do realize Australia's land mass is 7,680,000 Sq Km?? Tasmania needs to lift it's game, pathetic effort. We all can't be employed wiping bird sh1t off solar panels ya know! |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by ImSpartacus2 on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:43am Rider wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:16am:
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by Rider on Jul 11th, 2015 at 12:45pm ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 8:15am:
The old socialism masquerading as environmentalism. Another fraud exposed. bugger off back to Cuba, live the dream why don't ya? |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by ImSpartacus2 on Jul 11th, 2015 at 4:50pm Rider wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 12:45pm:
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by longweekend58 on Jul 11th, 2015 at 5:17pm ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 4:50pm:
The estimated number of jobs in logging Tasmania’s old growth forests is about 325. The estimated number of jobs that would be created by protecting them and re-configuring mills is well over 900. really?? 900 jobs to 'protect' forests that havent needed anyone before? sounds like vain imagining. |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by The Mechanic on Jul 11th, 2015 at 6:16pm
i'd like to see this thread in General plz...
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by ImSpartacus2 on Jul 11th, 2015 at 6:29pm longweekend58 wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 5:17pm:
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by The Mechanic on Jul 11th, 2015 at 6:42pm Quote:
Number One contributors to the Tasmanian economy along with Metals Quote:
I have been going down to Tasmania for over 25 years and I have seen all of the tourism changes... the growth in ecotourism has blown me away... but also at the same time I have seen huge drops in forests as I travel around Tassie... once where I drove/rode for miles and miles through forests.. are now open crap land... :( |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by longweekend58 on Jul 11th, 2015 at 7:01pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 6:42pm:
I have been going down to Tasmania for over 25 years and I have seen all of the tourism changes... the growth in ecotourism has blown me away... but also at the same time I have seen huge drops in forests as I travel around Tassie... once where I drove/rode for miles and miles through forests.. are now open crap land... :([/quote] Tourism might be nice but it is still little more than the industry you have when you dont have any ACTUAL industry. |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by The Mechanic on Jul 11th, 2015 at 7:17pm longweekend58 wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 7:01pm:
Tourism might be nice but it is still little more than the industry you have when you dont have any ACTUAL industry.[/quote] they used to have a big mining industry but like all mining its unsustainable... you can grow woodchip plantations on the mainland if they want... but its easier and cheaper to destroy ancient forest in Tasmania.. that's why the f**kers are there.... once you rip out the ancient forests and torch it into history along with the endangered animals... you have lot BOTH industries... both industries gone... that's not hard to understand... |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by The Mechanic on Jul 11th, 2015 at 7:21pm
the first time I went to Port Author it had one little dirt car park...
now... they have sealed multilevel car/bus parks where thousands of tourists flood in... the same with Cradle Mountain... a small dirt car park... you visited the rangers hut before going down to lake dove... now... a couple of kilometres before the rangers hut.... a massive sealed car park... café and bookings.. boom gates to control the flow of cars going in and out.. massive... ecotourism is booming in Tassie.. they need to grow it |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by longweekend58 on Jul 11th, 2015 at 9:00pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 7:17pm:
they used to have a big mining industry but like all mining its unsustainable... you can grow woodchip plantations on the mainland if they want... but its easier and cheaper to destroy ancient forest in Tasmania.. that's why the f**kers are there.... once you rip out the ancient forests and torch it into history along with the endangered animals... you have lot BOTH industries... both industries gone... that's not hard to understand... [/quote] so what you are saying is that Tasmania needs industry. But is there ANY industry that the Greens would allow? Why is it that the state with the biggest Green vote has the worse economy? perhaps there is a connection? |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by The Grappler on Jul 12th, 2015 at 2:05am longweekend58 wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 9:00pm:
so what you are saying is that Tasmania needs industry. But is there ANY industry that the Greens would allow? Why is it that the state with the biggest Green vote has the worse economy? perhaps there is a connection?[/quote] The size of the State and its industrial base have a not mo re to do with it. If ever there was proof that the Banana Republic Mode did not work for Australia and Australians - Tasmania is it...... |
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Title: Re: The Jobs Have Disappeared In Tasmania Post by The Mechanic on Jul 12th, 2015 at 9:55am
So where's our local Greens hero in all of this?
Green Swine... He's chasing the carbon tax and gay Rainbows which will do nothing to protect our last bit of ancient forests and endangered species. ... What kind of fraudulent sellout turd would do this? ?? A man who puts his own ass reaming ahead of everything important in the world. .. What a total fake. .. >:( |
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