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Message started by Lord Herbert on Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:15am

Title: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:15am
What a remarkable coincidence:-

"The ASIO documents showed the Sydney and Melbourne suburbs where people who have gone to fight in the Middle East have come from.

The maps laid out on a table for Tony Abbott showed highlighted suburbs in Sydney including Lidcombe, Greenacre, Punchbowl, Bankstown, Auburn and Lakemba".


link

What an extraordinary coincidence that these very same suburbs are immediately identified by Sydneysiders as where the Muslim community lives.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:21am

Ah, Herbie "logic"!

All terrorists are Muslims, therefore, all Muslims are terrorists.

Here Herbie, have a banana:


(All banans are yellow, therefore, all things yellow are bananas)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Yadda on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:21am:
Ah, Herbie "logic"!

All terrorists are Muslims, therefore, all Muslims are terrorists.

Here Herbie, have a banana:


(All banans are yellow, therefore, all things yellow are bananas)



Yadda corrects;

"All moslems are moslems, therefore, all moslems are terrorists."




CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0

Quote:

Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.


ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers'].


.....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.







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Yadda said....

Quote:

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.


Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."




Today, many moslems - living in Australia - are insisting that we, Australians, must be forced to believe the incredible;

"I'm a moslem, and i worship Allah, and i revere Mohammed his messenger.

And i know that Allah calls for the enslavement and/or murder of all non-moslems - THROUGH JIHAD [religious fighting, when moslems have that 'opportunity'].

But i don't follow that part of my faith.

HONEST!"



Dictionary;
incredible = =
1 impossible to believe.
2 difficult to believe; extraordinary.




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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda



QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?





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Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW,      TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.



Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;


Quote:

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:15pm

Yadda wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:21am:
Ah, Herbie "logic"!

All terrorists are Muslims, therefore, all Muslims are terrorists.

Here Herbie, have a banana:


(All banans are yellow, therefore, all things yellow are bananas)



Yadda corrects;

"All moslems are moslems, therefore, all moslems are terrorists."



Greg corrects.

"All moslems are moslems, therefore, all moslems are moslems."

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by issuevoter on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:21pm
Bauchi, Nigeria, June 24th.


About 40 people have been killed by suspected Boko Haram militants who torched houses and shot people as they fled in two villages in northeast Nigeria's Borno state, witnesses told Reuters on Wednesday.

The attackers, who arrived on motorcycles and vehicles mounted with guns, shot residents and looted shops in the villages of Debiro Biu and Debiro Hawul late on Monday night and into Tuesday morning, the witnesses said.

Local police confirmed the attacks took place but declined to comment further.

Details of the attack did not emerge for several hours due to poor telecommunications networks in the remote villages in northeast Nigeria, a region in which Boko Haram has killed thousands in a six-year bid to set up an Islamic state.

Muslims, nice folks!

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:25pm

issuevoter wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:21pm:
Muslims, nice folks!



Some of them are very nice.

I just had one in my office.

Lovely fellow, and a lovely family.

At no time did he threaten to cut my head off.

Go figure.




Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Resolute on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:21pm:
Muslims, nice folks!



Some of them are very nice.

I just had one in my office.

Lovely fellow, and a lovely family.

At no time did he threaten to cut my head off.

Go figure.


Maybe he thought you weren't worth the effort?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Yadda on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:34pm

Yadda wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:12pm:

Yadda corrects;

"All moslems are moslems, therefore, all moslems are terrorists."


< ----------      Everyone today, in the higher echelon of ASIO, knows that it is true.

But it isn't politically correct to speak such a truth.



It is the truth whose name must not be spoken!!!!

"All moslems are moslems, therefore, all moslems are terrorists."






"But it isn't politically correct to speak such a truth."


John 12:42
Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:
43  For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.


Romans 2:28
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29  But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by freediver on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:21am:
Ah, Herbie "logic"!

All terrorists are Muslims, therefore, all Muslims are terrorists.


Nice rant Greg. Would you mind pointing out where he said these things?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by rabbitoh08 on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:50pm

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:21am:
Ah, Herbie "logic"!

All terrorists are Muslims, therefore, all Muslims are terrorists.


Nice rant Greg. Would you mind pointing out where he said these things?


You fail to see the sentiment that Greggery implies in this statement:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:15am:
What an extraordinary coincidence that these very same suburbs are immediately identified by Sydneysiders as where the Muslim community lives.




Really?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:50pm

Resolute wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:21pm:
Muslims, nice folks!



Some of them are very nice.

I just had one in my office.

Lovely fellow, and a lovely family.

At no time did he threaten to cut my head off.

Go figure.


Maybe he thought you weren't worth the effort?



No, it's just that he's a normal person.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:53pm

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:21am:
Ah, Herbie "logic"!

All terrorists are Muslims, therefore, all Muslims are terrorists.


Nice rant Greg. Would you mind pointing out where he said these things?



What do you think old Herbie was getting at here:

"What an extraordinary coincidence that these very same suburbs are immediately identified by Sydneysiders as where the Muslim community lives."  ?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by issuevoter on Jun 25th, 2015 at 6:27pm
Yeah Muslims are nice folks. 40 Nigerians don't matter.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2015 at 6:30pm

issuevoter wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 6:27pm:
Yeah Muslims are nice folks. 40 Nigerians don't matter.



Some are, some aren't.

Same can be said for all groups of people.

You shouldn't let your Islamophobia get in the way of reality.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 25th, 2015 at 6:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:21am:
Ah, Herbie "logic"!

All terrorists are Muslims, therefore, all Muslims are terrorists.


Nice rant Greg. Would you mind pointing out where he said these things?



What do you think old Herbie was getting at here:

"What an extraordinary coincidence that these very same suburbs are immediately identified by Sydneysiders as where the Muslim community lives."  ?


The Muslim Community and their 'leaders' never stop telling us - (and any government official who will listen to them) - that these terrorists - both here and abroad - are NOT 'real' Muslims as what they advocate is NOT genuine Islam.

It's strange indeed that all these terrorist sympathisers just happen to all come from the same Muslim ghetto suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne - and yet according to the Muslim Community they are NOT Muslims, and should NOT be identified by the media as part of the Muslim Community.

O the irony!

Kudos to Abbott for helping the Muslim Community and their 'leaders' from not only removing these terrorists from the Muslim community for being fraudulent and phony Muslims, but also for removing them from Australian citizenship as well.

But then, lo and behold! - upon hearing of this new initiative to bannish these terrorists - the Muslim community and their ghetto 'leaders' all of a sudden are seen to embrace these 'false' non-Muslim Muslims as though they are one of their own - by bitching and whining that they should be allowed to return to Australia and not be de-registered as Australian citizens.

Make up your mind, boys!

The Muslim Community says: "These are not real Muslims. They're not one of us".

Abbott says: "We're going to strip them of their citizenship".

(long pause as Muslim Community leaders go into a huddle)..

and then: "STOP THIS RACISM BY THE ABBOTT GOVERNMENT!! IT'S RACIST FOR ABBOTT TO TARGET MUSLIM TERRORISTS ONLY!!"

Jesus. What a comedy.

The two-faced, having-it-both-ways hypocrisy is blinding.



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Secret Wars on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:21am:
Ah, Herbie "logic"!

All terrorists are Muslims, therefore, all Muslims are terrorists.


Nice rant Greg. Would you mind pointing out where he said these things?



What do you think old Herbie was getting at here:

"What an extraordinary coincidence that these very same suburbs are immediately identified by Sydneysiders as where the Muslim community lives."  ?


To borrow from your exact same antics from yesterday, can you point out where Herbie mentioned anything about terrorists? 

I have read it carefully and he mentions nothing about terrorists. 

* and carry on saying the same thing till everyone else gives up out of sheer exhaustion and better things to do and thus, you win at the internets.  Yayyyyyyy for you*

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by freediver on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:21am:
Ah, Herbie "logic"!

All terrorists are Muslims, therefore, all Muslims are terrorists.


Nice rant Greg. Would you mind pointing out where he said these things?



What do you think old Herbie was getting at here:

"What an extraordinary coincidence that these very same suburbs are immediately identified by Sydneysiders as where the Muslim community lives."  ?


Here's a tip Greg. If you are confused about what he was trying to say, ask. Picking a random unrelated soundbite that you do understand and pretending that is what he actually said just makes you look silly.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:33pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:21am:
Ah, Herbie "logic"!

All terrorists are Muslims, therefore, all Muslims are terrorists.


Nice rant Greg. Would you mind pointing out where he said these things?



What do you think old Herbie was getting at here:

"What an extraordinary coincidence that these very same suburbs are immediately identified by Sydneysiders as where the Muslim community lives."  ?


To borrow from your exact same antics from yesterday, can you point out where Herbie mentioned anything about terrorists? 

I have read it carefully and he mentions nothing about terrorists. 



Put your glasses on and go back to his OP.

You will find the word "link", in red.

Use your mouse to click onto that link.

Then, you will be taken to the subject of Herbie's post.

Actually, don't worry, I'll do it for you.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-25/tony-abbott-accuses-labor-of-insulting-asio-over-use-of-maps/6572112

Now, from the link that Herbie provided you will find this:

"Prime Minister Tony Abbott has accused Labor of insulting Australia's top spies by questioning the use of terrorist recruiting maps during a media event at ASIO's headquarters."

I suggest paper towels, if you want to remove that egg from your face.





Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Secret Wars on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 12:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 11:21am:
Ah, Herbie "logic"!

All terrorists are Muslims, therefore, all Muslims are terrorists.


Nice rant Greg. Would you mind pointing out where he said these things?



What do you think old Herbie was getting at here:

"What an extraordinary coincidence that these very same suburbs are immediately identified by Sydneysiders as where the Muslim community lives."  ?


To borrow from your exact same antics from yesterday, can you point out where Herbie mentioned anything about terrorists? 

I have read it carefully and he mentions nothing about terrorists. 



Put your glasses on and go back to his OP.

You will find the word "link", in red.

Use your mouse to click onto that link.

Then, you will be taken to the subject of Herbie's post.

Actually, don't worry, I'll do it for you.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-25/tony-abbott-accuses-labor-of-insulting-asio-over-use-of-maps/6572112

Now, from the link that Herbie provided you will find this:

"Prime Minister Tony Abbott has accused Labor of insulting Australia's top spies by questioning the use of terrorist recruiting maps during a media event at ASIO's headquarters."

I suggest paper towels, if you want to remove that egg from your face.


No paper towel required.  I demonstrated the exact same idiot antics you use. 

Cept I don't have as much patience and lack of better things to do than you, therefore could not be bothered doing it post after post after post after post. 

And here is me moving on from engaging with an idiot.  The field is yours, you win at the internets.   :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:41pm

Then, to continue the theme of his thread on terrorism:

"The Muslim Community and their 'leaders' never stop telling us - (and any government official who will listen to them) - that these terrorists - both here and abroad - are NOT 'real' Muslims as what they advocate is NOT genuine Islam.

"It's strange indeed that all these terrorist sympathisers just happen to all come from the same Muslim ghetto suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne - and yet according to the Muslim Community they are NOT Muslims, and should NOT be identified by the media as part of the Muslim Community.

"O the irony!

"Kudos to Abbott for helping the Muslim Community and their 'leaders' from not only removing these terrorists from the Muslim community for being fraudulent and phony Muslims, but also for removing them from Australian citizenship as well.

"But then, lo and behold! - upon hearing of this new initiative to bannish these terrorists - the Muslim community and their ghetto 'leaders' all of a sudden are seen to embrace these 'false' non-Muslim Muslims as though they are one of their own - by bitching and whining that they should be allowed to return to Australia and not be de-registered as Australian citizens."


You copped a double yolker.



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Secret Wars on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:57pm
Yours was the second post dill.    ::) ::)

That was the post being addressed. 

You cannot use subsequent posts to bolster your idiot antics of your first post. 

Actually I correct that, you cannot honestly use subsequent posts to bolster your first, where I was pointing out and used  the tactics you used, from yesterday.   

You know, or should know that of course.  But you prefer to dissemble, distract, obsessively worry side points of pedantism and otherwise engage in irrelevancies. 

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:59pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 7:57pm:
Yours was the second post dill.    ::) ::)

That was the post being addressed. 

You cannot use subsequent posts to bolster your idiot antics of your first post. 

Actually I correct that, you cannot honestly use subsequent posts to bolster your first, where I was pointing out and used  the tactics you used, from yesterday.   

You know, or should know that of course.  But you prefer to dissemble, distract, obsessively worry side points of pedantism and otherwise engage in irrelevancies. 



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msmnb676RxI

The egg is already there.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:32am
"But it's NOT Islam - you fools!"

Britain's Muslim community has prime minister David Cameron working hard for them as a Human Shield and as an apologist for Islam. He gets Mad as Hell when even Leftwing media organisations like the BBC use taboo terms such as 'Islamic State'.

And then we have Abbott talking about the 'Daesh' in reference to Muslims attempting to establish an Islamic State in the Middle East.

There isn't a hope in hell of any resolution to this murderous Islamic activism for as long as our own political leaders are helping the Muslim communities propagate the silly fiction that none of this violence has anything to do with Islam.

link


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Yadda on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:27am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:32am:
"But it's NOT Islam - you fools!"

Britain's Muslim community has prime minister David Cameron working hard for them as a Human Shield and as an apologist for Islam. He gets Mad as Hell when even Leftwing media organisations like the BBC use taboo terms such as 'Islamic State'.

And then we have Abbott talking about the 'Daesh' in reference to Muslims attempting to establish an Islamic State in the Middle East.



There isn't a hope in hell of any resolution to this murderous Islamic activism for as long as our own political leaders are helping the Muslim communities propagate the silly fiction that none of this violence has anything to do with Islam.



link



Exactly so!

Exactly so!

Exactly so!


4 times, exactly so!



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:04am
The problem is politics, Yadda.

For as long as our politicians are more interested in harvesting Minority votes in order to keep themselves in government - and riding the Public Servant taxpayer-funded Gravy Train ~ they'll keep on pretending they're not aware of the Elephant-in-the-room that's sh*tting all over the national carpet.

They'll budget for millions of extra dollars to "fight terrorism" ~ but don't DARE call this terrorism a product of Islam.

Any euphemism will do ~ but please, not "Islam", thank you very much.

We have elections to win.

'Minorities' to curry favour with.

'Community leaders' to placate and appease.

We're politicians .. deceitful ... gutless ... and totally duplicitous as guardians and preservers of the nation's cultural heritage and ethos.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Marla on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 6:45pm:
Jesus. What a comedy.

The two-faced, having-it-both-ways hypocrisy is blinding.



There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Yadda on Jun 30th, 2015 at 11:47am

Marla wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am:

There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.



Marla,

Herb is merely standing upon a different mountain top, from you.

You do not, or 'cannot', see what Herb sees.

So from your perspective [from your mountain top] Herb is wrong.



But, if Herb is standing upon a different mountain top from you,     you are not seeing what he sees.

Who is correct ?

The disparity will be resolved,       one way,      or another.




A fire is coming, which will destroy all which is false.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Marla on Jun 30th, 2015 at 12:33pm
Sounds more like a heap to me. And one of his own making.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 30th, 2015 at 1:16pm

Marla wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am:
There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.


Muslims are allowed to tell whopping great lies Marla are you aware of this fact?


sunnah.com/bukhari/53/3

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 30th, 2015 at 1:16pm

Marla wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am:
There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.


;D ;D ;D

That's funny.

I once tried starting other topics as a refreshing change, but soon found them being swamped by thread graffiti artists, Taggers, and sundry one-liner forum vandals who very soon drove me back to the Muslim threads where Freediver and gandalf concentrate their posts, and where any hooliganism is soon noticed by them.

Hence, the Muslim threads are where you can say your piece without too much interference from the juvenile delinquent section of the membership here.

Stray from where FD and gandalf post the majority of their opinions and arguments, and you can expect nothing but graffiti vandalism in response to whatever you'd like to say.

I now confine myself to where the Forum Board's CCTV cameras are situated ... and that's in the threads where gandalf and Freediver spend most of their time here.

Do you believe Freediver and gandalf also have a 24/7 theme park twirling in their mind as you believe I do? Or would you rather not say?

Since WWII the greatest threat by far that is facing Western civilisation is that of Islam having breached the gates of our homelands via the immigration of millions of Muslims whom our politicians must now appease and accommodate.

I don't know about the news services where you are, but not a single day goes by here in Sydney when the news does not include an item or two about Muslim crime in our streets - usually a shooting - or something about the latest atrocities committed by Muslims.

Pick up any newspaper, any day of the week - and if there isn't a story about Muslims Behaving Badly within the first two pages - then we all rush out to buy a Lottery ticket for this being so unusual.

Marla - be glad there are people taking this threat seriously, and who care that their future generations should not live in societies which are split between Muslims and The Rest as is the case in Lebanon, India, and elsewhere.






Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by freediver on Jun 30th, 2015 at 6:25pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Marla wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am:
There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.


;D ;D ;D

That's funny.

I once tried starting other topics as a refreshing change, but soon found them being swamped by thread graffiti artists, Taggers, and sundry one-liner forum vandals who very soon drove me back to the Muslim threads where Freediver and gandalf concentrate their posts, and where any hooliganism is soon noticed by them.

Hence, the Muslim threads are where you can say your piece without too much interference from the juvenile delinquent section of the membership here.

Stray from where FD and gandalf post the majority of their opinions and arguments, and you can expect nothing but graffiti vandalism in response to whatever you'd like to say.

I now confine myself to where the Forum Board's CCTV cameras are situated ... and that's in the threads where gandalf and Freediver spend most of their time here.

Do you believe Freediver and gandalf also have a 24/7 theme park twirling in their mind as you believe I do? Or would you rather not say?

Since WWII the greatest threat by far that is facing Western civilisation is that of Islam having breached the gates of our homelands via the immigration of millions of Muslims whom our politicians must now appease and accommodate.

I don't know about the news services where you are, but not a single day goes by here in Sydney when the news does not include an item or two about Muslim crime in our streets - usually a shooting - or something about the latest atrocities committed by Muslims.

Pick up any newspaper, any day of the week - and if there isn't a story about Muslims Behaving Badly within the first two pages - then we all rush out to buy a Lottery ticket for this being so unusual.

Marla - be glad there are people taking this threat seriously, and who care that their future generations should not live in societies which are split between Muslims and The Rest as is the case in Lebanon, India, and elsewhere.


OzPolitic never closes.

I would date it from the fall of communism. The Muslims are nowhere near as organised.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:52pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Marla wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am:
There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.


;D ;D ;D

That's funny.

I once tried starting other topics as a refreshing change, but soon found them being swamped by thread graffiti artists, Taggers, and sundry one-liner forum vandals who very soon drove me back to the Muslim threads where Freediver and gandalf concentrate their posts, and where any hooliganism is soon noticed by them.


I fear you've blighted your copy book, Herbie.

Perhaps if you made an effort that didn't denigrate others, you might find people more willing to listen to you.   Otherwise you'll continue to be seen as a joke and a troll by most posters.    ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Secret Wars on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Marla wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am:
There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.


;D ;D ;D

That's funny.

I once tried starting other topics as a refreshing change, but soon found them being swamped by thread graffiti artists, Taggers, and sundry one-liner forum vandals who very soon drove me back to the Muslim threads where Freediver and gandalf concentrate their posts, and where any hooliganism is soon noticed by them.


I fear you've blighted your copy book, Herbie.

Perhaps if you made an effort that didn't denigrate others, you might find people more willing to listen to you.   Otherwise you'll continue to be seen as a joke and a troll by most posters.    ::)


Most?  Can you cite this survey? 

Nahh just smacking with you, I know you can't, just me pretending to be a lefty for a bit.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lionel Edriess on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:01pm


Brian Ross wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Marla wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am:
There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.


;D ;D ;D

That's funny.

I once tried starting other topics as a refreshing change, but soon found them being swamped by thread graffiti artists, Taggers, and sundry one-liner forum vandals who very soon drove me back to the Muslim threads where Freediver and gandalf concentrate their posts, and where any hooliganism is soon noticed by them.


I fear you've blighted your copy book, Herbie.

Perhaps if you made an effort that didn't denigrate others, you might find people more willing to listen to you.   Otherwise you'll continue to be seen as a joke and a troll by most posters.    ::)


Oh, the irony!



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:02pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Marla wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am:
There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.


;D ;D ;D

That's funny.

I once tried starting other topics as a refreshing change, but soon found them being swamped by thread graffiti artists, Taggers, and sundry one-liner forum vandals who very soon drove me back to the Muslim threads where Freediver and gandalf concentrate their posts, and where any hooliganism is soon noticed by them.


I fear you've blighted your copy book, Herbie.

Perhaps if you made an effort that didn't denigrate others, you might find people more willing to listen to you.   Otherwise you'll continue to be seen as a joke and a troll by most posters.    ::)


Most? 



The vast majority, actually.



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Secret Wars on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Marla wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am:
There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.


;D ;D ;D

That's funny.

I once tried starting other topics as a refreshing change, but soon found them being swamped by thread graffiti artists, Taggers, and sundry one-liner forum vandals who very soon drove me back to the Muslim threads where Freediver and gandalf concentrate their posts, and where any hooliganism is soon noticed by them.


I fear you've blighted your copy book, Herbie.

Perhaps if you made an effort that didn't denigrate others, you might find people more willing to listen to you.   Otherwise you'll continue to be seen as a joke and a troll by most posters.    ::)


Most? 



The vast majority, actually.


Again, you got the survey to cite?  Nahhhhhh course you don't.  I am just funning. 

Maybe I should have just said link?  To make it more obvious the tools that are used. 

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:08pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Marla wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am:
There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.


;D ;D ;D

That's funny.

I once tried starting other topics as a refreshing change, but soon found them being swamped by thread graffiti artists, Taggers, and sundry one-liner forum vandals who very soon drove me back to the Muslim threads where Freediver and gandalf concentrate their posts, and where any hooliganism is soon noticed by them.


I fear you've blighted your copy book, Herbie.

Perhaps if you made an effort that didn't denigrate others, you might find people more willing to listen to you.   Otherwise you'll continue to be seen as a joke and a troll by most posters.    ::)


Most? 



The vast majority, actually.


Again, you got the survey to cite? 



There was a poll conducted on this forum, and Herbie came out at number one.

In fact, nobody else even came close.



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lionel Edriess on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:11pm


greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:08pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Marla wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am:
There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.


;D ;D ;D

That's funny.

I once tried starting other topics as a refreshing change, but soon found them being swamped by thread graffiti artists, Taggers, and sundry one-liner forum vandals who very soon drove me back to the Muslim threads where Freediver and gandalf concentrate their posts, and where any hooliganism is soon noticed by them.


I fear you've blighted your copy book, Herbie.

Perhaps if you made an effort that didn't denigrate others, you might find people more willing to listen to you.   Otherwise you'll continue to be seen as a joke and a troll by most posters.    ::)


Most? 



The vast majority, actually.


Again, you got the survey to cite? 



There was a poll conducted on this forum, and Herbie came out at number one.

In fact, nobody else even came close.



You excluded yourself, of course?



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Secret Wars on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:08pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Marla wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am:
There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.


;D ;D ;D

That's funny.

I once tried starting other topics as a refreshing change, but soon found them being swamped by thread graffiti artists, Taggers, and sundry one-liner forum vandals who very soon drove me back to the Muslim threads where Freediver and gandalf concentrate their posts, and where any hooliganism is soon noticed by them.


I fear you've blighted your copy book, Herbie.

Perhaps if you made an effort that didn't denigrate others, you might find people more willing to listen to you.   Otherwise you'll continue to be seen as a joke and a troll by most posters.    ::)


Most? 



The vast majority, actually.


Again, you got the survey to cite? 



There was a poll conducted on this forum, and Herbie came out at number one.

In fact, nobody else even came close.


I am not going to take your word for it, hell you cannot even quote honestly without trying to change meaning.  So link? 

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:13pm

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:08pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Marla wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am:
There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.


;D ;D ;D

That's funny.

I once tried starting other topics as a refreshing change, but soon found them being swamped by thread graffiti artists, Taggers, and sundry one-liner forum vandals who very soon drove me back to the Muslim threads where Freediver and gandalf concentrate their posts, and where any hooliganism is soon noticed by them.


I fear you've blighted your copy book, Herbie.

Perhaps if you made an effort that didn't denigrate others, you might find people more willing to listen to you.   Otherwise you'll continue to be seen as a joke and a troll by most posters.    ::)


Most? 



The vast majority, actually.


Again, you got the survey to cite? 



There was a poll conducted on this forum, and Herbie came out at number one.

In fact, nobody else even came close.



You excluded yourself, of course?



I didn't conduct the poll.

My name did come up, though.

However, Herbie won by a country mile.

Why wouldn't he?


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Secret Wars on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:23pm
Desire to censor and drive away? 

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lionel Edriess on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:26pm


greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:13pm:

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:08pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Marla wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 10:11am:
There must be a anti-Muslim carnival theme park that never closes playing your head at all times, Herb.


;D ;D ;D

That's funny.

I once tried starting other topics as a refreshing change, but soon found them being swamped by thread graffiti artists, Taggers, and sundry one-liner forum vandals who very soon drove me back to the Muslim threads where Freediver and gandalf concentrate their posts, and where any hooliganism is soon noticed by them.


I fear you've blighted your copy book, Herbie.

Perhaps if you made an effort that didn't denigrate others, you might find people more willing to listen to you.   Otherwise you'll continue to be seen as a joke and a troll by most posters.    ::)


Most? 



The vast majority, actually.


Again, you got the survey to cite? 



There was a poll conducted on this forum, and Herbie came out at number one.

In fact, nobody else even came close.



You excluded yourself, of course?



I didn't conduct the poll.

My name did come up, though.

However, Herbie won by a country mile.

Why wouldn't he?


You have a point there.

Perhaps he doesn't attract the usual crowd of fawning Leftists, Greens, Muslim apologists, gay sycophants and semi-illiterate cheer-squads.

Or perhaps it's because he doesn't confuse erudition with education?

Sound about right?

8-)



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 1st, 2015 at 10:48am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:52pm:
 Otherwise you'll continue to be seen as a joke and a troll by most posters.    ::)


Brian - I have long since stopped reading your posts for the very good reason that all you ever present is not personal opinion, but Political Correctness to the umpth degree. Any damn fool can write your posts for you.

It takes very little effort to write commentary that dares not offend any of the minorities from any point of view.

Bland, feeble, lacklustre, ingratiating, and anal-receptive posts that consistently curry favour with the minorities marks you out to be a Vichy Australian who has no loyalty to his own generational national tribe.

I'm applying to Peter Dutton's Canberra office to have you de-registered as an Australian citizen.

I'll then be linking you up with the Dalai Lama so you can both drift around the world as a rudderless couple of bludging Stateless Persons ... (not even Gillard agreed to meet him last time he was in Australia).


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 1st, 2015 at 10:54am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:08pm:
There was a poll conducted on this forum, and Herbie came out at number one.

In fact, nobody else even came close.


Link?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 1st, 2015 at 10:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:13pm:
I didn't conduct the poll.

My name did come up, though.

However, Herbie won by a country mile.

Why wouldn't he?


Because I don't live in the country?  8-)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 1st, 2015 at 11:17am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 10:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:13pm:
I didn't conduct the poll.

My name did come up, though.

However, Herbie won by a country mile.

Why wouldn't he?


Because I don't live in the country?  8-)



However, Herbie won by a country mile.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 1st, 2015 at 11:23am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 11:17am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 10:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 9:13pm:
I didn't conduct the poll.

My name did come up, though.

However, Herbie won by a country mile.

Why wouldn't he?


Because I don't live in the country?  8-)



However, Herbie won by a country mile.


bugger*n' oath.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:00pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 10:48am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:52pm:
 Otherwise you'll continue to be seen as a joke and a troll by most posters.    ::)


Brian - I have long since stopped reading your posts for the very good reason that all you ever present is not personal opinion, but Political Correctness to the umpth degree. Any damn fool can write your posts for you.


Really?  I am so glad, my work here is done it seems, Herbie.  I'll just invite the nearest fool to write my posts for me!   Oh, Herbie???   :)


Quote:
It takes very little effort to write commentary that dares not offend any of the minorities from any point of view.


Why should I set out to offend people, Herbie?   What is the value in that?  All you're doing is deliberately getting peoples' dander all excited and now achieving a dialogue, which is of course the purpose of discussion, now isn't it?   ::)


Quote:
Bland, feeble, lacklustre, ingratiating, and anal-receptive posts that consistently curry favour with the minorities marks you out to be a Vichy Australian who has no loyalty to his own generational national tribe.

I'm applying to Peter Dutton's Canberra office to have you de-registered as an Australian citizen.


Except I am solely an Australian citizen, I was born here, unlike a certain immigrant we could all name.  Of course that makes deregistering me as an Australian an awful lot harder than deregistering you, now doesn't it, Herbie?    ::)


Quote:
I'll then be linking you up with the Dalai Lama so you can both drift around the world as a rudderless couple of bludging Stateless Persons ... (not even Gillard agreed to meet him last time he was in Australia).


The Dalai Llama is supported by the Tibetan community worldwide, Herbie...    ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by double plus good on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:00pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 10:48am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 30th, 2015 at 8:52pm:
 Otherwise you'll continue to be seen as a joke and a troll by most posters.    ::)


Brian - I have long since stopped reading your posts for the very good reason that all you ever present is not personal opinion, but Political Correctness to the umpth degree. Any damn fool can write your posts for you.


Really?  I am so glad, my work here is done it seems, Herbie.  I'll just invite the nearest fool to write my posts for me!   Oh, Herbie???   :)


Quote:
It takes very little effort to write commentary that dares not offend any of the minorities from any point of view.


Why should I set out to offend people, Herbie?   What is the value in that?  All you're doing is deliberately getting peoples' dander all excited and now achieving a dialogue, which is of course the purpose of discussion, now isn't it?   ::)

[quote]
Bland, feeble, lacklustre, ingratiating, and anal-receptive posts that consistently curry favour with the minorities marks you out to be a Vichy Australian who has no loyalty to his own generational national tribe.

I'm applying to Peter Dutton's Canberra office to have you de-registered as an Australian citizen.


Except I am solely an Australian citizen, I was born here, unlike a certain immigrant we could all name.  Of course that makes deregistering me as an Australian an awful lot harder than deregistering you, now doesn't it, Herbie?    ::)


Quote:
I'll then be linking you up with the Dalai Lama so you can both drift around the world as a rudderless couple of bludging Stateless Persons ... (not even Gillard agreed to meet him last time he was in Australia).


The Dalai Llama is supported by the Tibetan community worldwide, Herbie...    ::)[/quote]The other day you posted an article about some people protesting against a mosque being built on the sunshine coast. In Lakemba some time back a street protest by muslims protested against a catholic building be built. Same reason. As an Australian how can you post one example and not the other?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:30pm

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:16pm:
The other day you posted an article about some people protesting against a mosque being built on the sunshine coast. In Lakemba some time back a street protest by muslims protested against a catholic building be built. Same reason. As an Australian how can you post one example and not the other?


The Catholic example was a joke, Joyce...    ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by double plus good on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:30pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:16pm:
The other day you posted an article about some people protesting against a mosque being built on the sunshine coast. In Lakemba some time back a street protest by muslims protested against a catholic building be built. Same reason. As an Australian how can you post one example and not the other?


The Catholic example was a joke, Joyce...    ::)
No it wasn't.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by double plus good on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:34pm
Catholic Youth Centre approved for Lakemba – sparks outrage in community
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The Catholic Young Men's Society site has been approved in Lakemba. Local Muslims are unhappy about Catholics moving in to their area.


The Catholic Young Men’s Society site has been approved in Lakemba. Local Muslims are unhappy about Catholics moving in to their area.
26 November, 2014. 15:48

ERROL PARKER | Editor-at-large | errol@betootaadvocate.com

AUSTRALIANS HAVE FLOCKED to the streets of Lakemba to protest after City of Canterbury Council approved plans to build a Catholic Young Men’s Society club in the predominantly Islamic suburb.

There were ugly scenes outside the council offices before the meeting with more than a dozen police officers on hand to keep protesters in check.

Despite strong community protest from some residents, Canterbury City Council voted in favour of the Catholic community centre in Lakemba 8 votes to 5.

A Catholic church was recently approved in the area this month to serve the region’s growing Christian community.

Locals have expressed their seething anger at the Council, saying that they don’t want Catholics living in their suburb.

“I don’t want these wine-sipping child-molesting sickos living near me or my family,” says one Haldon Street business owner.

“Catholics fail to assimilate in to other cultures. They form ghettos and build their own clubs like this f**king CYMS bulls**t.”

Saint Patrick’s Welfare Association Inc secretary Paul-Martin O’Leary addressed the council meeting on behalf of the applicants said he was disappointed to see the scenes outside upon arriving.

“I was sad that when I arrived here tonight to see what I did outside,” Mr O’Leary said.

“Catholic people are doctors, nurses, engineers, they work in the public and private sectors,”

“Please do consider that we don’t want to disturb your way of life. This Catholic hall is a multicultural example of Australia,”

“This country is our home, and we’re exactly like you.”

The Catholic Young Men’s Society on Haldon Street is expected to be constructed in two stages with the first stage of the development including the construction of 400sq m hall that will include a kitchen, toilets and other amenities.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:37pm

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:30pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:16pm:
The other day you posted an article about some people protesting against a mosque being built on the sunshine coast. In Lakemba some time back a street protest by muslims protested against a catholic building be built. Same reason. As an Australian how can you post one example and not the other?


The Catholic example was a joke, Joyce...    ::)
No it wasn't.


Provide a reference which doesn't refer back to the original blog message then, as its source...    ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by double plus good on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:37pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:30pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:16pm:
The other day you posted an article about some people protesting against a mosque being built on the sunshine coast. In Lakemba some time back a street protest by muslims protested against a catholic building be built. Same reason. As an Australian how can you post one example and not the other?


The Catholic example was a joke, Joyce...    ::)
No it wasn't.


Provide a reference which doesn't refer back to the original blog message then, as its source...    ::)
How do you it didn't happen?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:41pm

Quote:
Betoota Advocate

Look, it happens to the best of us. Unfortunately, our good friends at Deadspin were recently taken in by a fake story from the Betoota Advocate. The Olympics is not going to have 3-on-3 basketball. But why not? Sillier things have been Olympic sports in the past.

Frankly I’m just waiting for the day when I uncritically re-report some story from a fake news site. It’s bound to happen. It’s only a matter of time. Let’s call it Actually’s Law. But yeah, the Betoota Advocate is generally not funny, which is part of the problem.

[url=http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/01/the-9-worst-fake-news-sites/]Source[/url]

The Betoota Advocate is a satirical fake news blog.    ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:42pm

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:41pm:
How do you it didn't happen?


Because of the source of the report.   ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by double plus good on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:43pm
ADICAL Muslim leaders have been slammed for holding a protest about Thursday’s terror raids at a sacred war memorial in Sydney.

Several hundred people gathered in Lakemba on Thursday night to hear controversial Hizt ut-Tahrir spokesman Uthman Badar warn of growing anger among the Islamic community over perceived victimisation.

Terror Raids
Community leader Uthman Badar speaks at the protest.
Mr Badar chose the steps of Lakemba War Memorial to deliver his speech, and a crowd gathered on the lawns of Canterbury Council’s RSL Reserve.

Parliamentary Secretary for the Centenary of ANZAC, David Elliott, said he was horrified protesters had used the war memorial for their protest: “… war memorials are sacred places. Veterans consider them with the same reverence as a gravesite. To use memorials in this manner shows contempt for the sacrifice of our servicemen and women.


“It is a dark day for our veterans when they are forced to watch these sacred sites used as a backdrop for protests against the rule of law. These radicals need to be reminded that freedom of speech is a hard-fought-for luxury.

“They shouldn’t try the patience of decent and fair-minded Australians, because I suspect it is fast running out.”

RSL members were also said to be furious about the choice of location, which is designated public land.



This didn't happen either then?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 1st, 2015 at 8:15pm

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:37pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:30pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:16pm:
The other day you posted an article about some people protesting against a mosque being built on the sunshine coast. In Lakemba some time back a street protest by muslims protested against a catholic building be built. Same reason. As an Australian how can you post one example and not the other?


The Catholic example was a joke, Joyce...    ::)
No it wasn't.


Provide a reference which doesn't refer back to the original blog message then, as its source...    ::)
How do you it didn't happen?




Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by double plus good on Jul 1st, 2015 at 8:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 8:15pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:37pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:30pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:16pm:
The other day you posted an article about some people protesting against a mosque being built on the sunshine coast. In Lakemba some time back a street protest by muslims protested against a catholic building be built. Same reason. As an Australian how can you post one example and not the other?


The Catholic example was a joke, Joyce...    ::)
No it wasn't.


Provide a reference which doesn't refer back to the original blog message then, as its source...    ::)
How do you it didn't happen?



He didn't prove anything. We all know about Islamic protest in Australia.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 1st, 2015 at 8:20pm

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 8:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 8:15pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:37pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:30pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:16pm:
The other day you posted an article about some people protesting against a mosque being built on the sunshine coast. In Lakemba some time back a street protest by muslims protested against a catholic building be built. Same reason. As an Australian how can you post one example and not the other?


The Catholic example was a joke, Joyce...    ::)
No it wasn't.


Provide a reference which doesn't refer back to the original blog message then, as its source...    ::)
How do you it didn't happen?



He didn't prove anything. We all know about Islamic protest in Australia.




Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 1st, 2015 at 8:27pm

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 8:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 8:15pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:37pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:30pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:16pm:
The other day you posted an article about some people protesting against a mosque being built on the sunshine coast. In Lakemba some time back a street protest by muslims protested against a catholic building be built. Same reason. As an Australian how can you post one example and not the other?


The Catholic example was a joke, Joyce...    ::)
No it wasn't.


Provide a reference which doesn't refer back to the original blog message then, as its source...    ::)
How do you it didn't happen?



He didn't prove anything. We all know about Islamic protest in Australia.



Tell us again about how they want to ban Christmas.



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 1st, 2015 at 9:03pm

double plus good wrote on Jul 1st, 2015 at 7:43pm:
ADICAL Muslim leaders have been slammed for holding a protest about Thursday’s terror raids at a sacred war memorial in Sydney.

Several hundred people gathered in Lakemba on Thursday night to hear controversial Hizt ut-Tahrir spokesman Uthman Badar warn of growing anger among the Islamic community over perceived victimisation.

Terror Raids
Community leader Uthman Badar speaks at the protest.
Mr Badar chose the steps of Lakemba War Memorial to deliver his speech, and a crowd gathered on the lawns of Canterbury Council’s RSL Reserve.

Parliamentary Secretary for the Centenary of ANZAC, David Elliott, said he was horrified protesters had used the war memorial for their protest: “… war memorials are sacred places. Veterans consider them with the same reverence as a gravesite. To use memorials in this manner shows contempt for the sacrifice of our servicemen and women.


“It is a dark day for our veterans when they are forced to watch these sacred sites used as a backdrop for protests against the rule of law. These radicals need to be reminded that freedom of speech is a hard-fought-for luxury.

“They shouldn’t try the patience of decent and fair-minded Australians, because I suspect it is fast running out.”

RSL members were also said to be furious about the choice of location, which is designated public land.

This didn't happen either then?


Oh, that happened alright.   Why did you attempt to use a joke blog as a source?    ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Karnal on Jul 2nd, 2015 at 12:07am
Homo is a joke source too, you know.

But every night he goes home alone.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by double plus good on Jul 2nd, 2015 at 5:35am

Karnal wrote on Jul 2nd, 2015 at 12:07am:
Homo is a joke source too, you know.

But every night he goes home alone.
Brian and Karnal love sticking up for violent Islamic protests.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 2nd, 2015 at 6:23pm
Let's take a short break while we hear from Pat Condell how it is that so much of what we think is a product of Islam, has in fact nothing to do with Islam ...  you misguided fools.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N46mIHEGHN0


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 2nd, 2015 at 7:15pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 2nd, 2015 at 6:23pm:
Let's take a short break while we hear from Pat Condell how it is that so much of what we think is a product of Islam, has in fact nothing to do with Islam ...  you misguided fools.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N46mIHEGHN0

He is spot on.

Islam has nuffin' to do wiv Islam.

Madness.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:40pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 2nd, 2015 at 6:23pm:
Let's take a short break while we hear from Pat Condell how it is that so much of what we think is a product of Islam, has in fact nothing to do with Islam ...  you misguided fools.


Nothing new from the entertainer, Herbie?

I wonder how much of Christianity has little to do with Christ?   ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 8:51pm
After what Donald Trump said about the Hispanics in America, someone ought to hire him to make a speech in the UK and Australia to tell the local Muslims that if they're 'offended' by the Western liberal culture of the host country - then they should pack up their hijabs and their Korans and migrate to a Muslim country where their precious 'sensitivities' are accommodated by default in those societies.

link

It really is time our politicians took a leadership role in solving the Immigrant Muslim Problem before it gets a lot worse than it already is.

It really is approaching the time when our politicians should take off the gloves and start a proactive campaign to repatriate back to their Islamic homelands those Muslim families who continue to bitch and whine about their cultural sensitivities not being respected.

Give them a parting cheque and wave them "Goodbye" at the airport with a One Way ticket.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 9:58pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 8:51pm:
It really is approaching the time when our politicians should take off the gloves and start a proactive campaign to repatriate back to their Islamic homelands those Muslim families who continue to bitch and whine about their cultural sensitivities not being respected.



Who are they, Herbie?

I've not seen any.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Yadda on Jul 4th, 2015 at 1:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 9:58pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 8:51pm:
It really is approaching the time when our politicians should take off the gloves and start a proactive campaign to repatriate back to their Islamic homelands

those Muslim families who continue to bitch and whine about their cultural sensitivities not being respected.



Who are they, Herbie?

I've not seen any.



IMAGE...




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Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 8:51pm:

It really is approaching the time when our politicians should        take off the gloves and start a proactive campaign to repatriate back to their Islamic homelands

those Muslim families who continue to bitch and whine about their cultural sensitivities not being respected.



Herb,

Especially, when 'Aussie' moslems can be seen marching down 'MAIN ST', Australia,          demanding their 'human right' to practice their religion,       and demanding their religious cultural right [i.e. the murder of infidels!!],      without encumbrance [from restrictive and 'oppressive' infidel laws], HERE, in Australia!!


IMO, all of the people identified, in these images, should have be identified, rounded up,      and then put into a purpose built internment camp, FOR THE REST OF THEIR NATURAL LIVES!   [as enemies of the government, of the people of Australia]

-------- >

IMAGE...


"BEHEAD ALL THOSE WHO INSULT THE PROPHET"

Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.


'Aussie' moslems on a Sydney street, openly demonstrating and exposing to public view, the violent religious bigotry which ISLAM, has put into their hearts.

'Aussie' moslems on a Sydney street, openly demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion'.

Demanding the 'religious freedom', to kill people who offend them, because they do not believe as they [moslems] believe.



< ---------    Those 'Aussie' moslems are engaging in the commission of a HATE CRIME,       on 'MAIN ST', Australia!!!

Those 'Aussie' moslems are inciting cultural and political hatred and cultural and political violence,      against all Australians [i.e. against the government, of the people of Australia].

And those 'Aussie' moslems are engaged in this type of incitement, inter-cultural and political hatred,    simply because many of us, are not moslems, and because Australians do not share the views and opinions of 'Aussie' moslems.

!!!!!!



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ISLAMIC DOCTRINE.....

MURDERING DISBELIEVERS IS LAWFUL


THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260




ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06


ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."




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Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW,      TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.



Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;


Quote:

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 6th, 2015 at 12:46pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9SIcIvuKWQ

http://www.patcondell.net/islam-in-the-workplace/

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 6th, 2015 at 4:02pm
Good one.

And still the British pooblic vote in the same old parties that guarantee that these Muslim absurdities will continue to be protected and sponsored by them under 'Religious Freedom' and 'Human Rights' clauses.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 6th, 2015 at 4:26pm
Pat has made another vid about Brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8bmMrfMYw

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 6th, 2015 at 6:26pm
The tragedy of Western societies is that those who should be in politics and running the agenda for preserving the national heritage of their generational citizens - aren't.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Hot Breath on Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:47pm

Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Pat has made another vid about Brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8bmMrfMYw


Still resorting to the entertainer to do your business and thinking for you Soren?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:58am

|dev|null wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Pat has made another vid about Brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8bmMrfMYw


Still resorting to the entertainer to do your business and thinking for you Soren?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

You are invited to counter any of his argument, if you are able.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 7th, 2015 at 9:13am

|dev|null wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Pat has made another vid about Brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8bmMrfMYw


Still resorting to the entertainer to do your business and thinking for you Soren?   



Sore End should do a double act with the comedian - he could be his straight man.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Karnal on Jul 7th, 2015 at 10:05am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 9:13am:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Pat has made another vid about Brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8bmMrfMYw


Still resorting to the entertainer to do your business and thinking for you Soren?   



Sore End should do a double act with the comedian - he could be his straight man.



Abbott in Abbott and Costello was a mean old bastard. He was the tightest straight man in the business.

Could that work?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 7th, 2015 at 12:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 9:13am:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Pat has made another vid about Brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8bmMrfMYw


Still resorting to the entertainer to do your business and thinking for you Soren?   



Sore End should do a double act with the comedian - he could be his straight man.


You are invited to counter any of his argument, if you are able.

So is PB.

None of you have ever been able to offer any counter-arguments to any of Condell's points, ever. Until you do you are just sneering and snarling as usual.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 7th, 2015 at 1:08pm

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 9:13am:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Pat has made another vid about Brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8bmMrfMYw


Still resorting to the entertainer to do your business and thinking for you Soren?   



Sore End should do a double act with the comedian - he could be his straight man.


You are invited to counter any of his argument, if you are able.



Comedians have skits, not arguments.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Karnal on Jul 7th, 2015 at 3:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 1:08pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 9:13am:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Pat has made another vid about Brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8bmMrfMYw


Still resorting to the entertainer to do your business and thinking for you Soren?   



Sore End should do a double act with the comedian - he could be his straight man.


You are invited to counter any of his argument, if you are able.



Comedians have skits, not arguments.


The old boy has stilts.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 7th, 2015 at 7:14pm

Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 12:46pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9SIcIvuKWQ
]


So, if a Hindu buckles under the pressure of being persecuted that is a good thing as against a Muslim who fights back, Soren?

Of course, we know you enjoy persecuting people who are different, so of course you'd endorse what this entertainer is saying.  You were aware he's making these Islamophobic videos for his own enjoyment?   You were aware that he is in fact an entertainer, Soren?    ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 7th, 2015 at 7:16pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 6:26pm:
The tragedy of Western societies is that those who should be in politics and running the agenda for preserving the national heritage of their generational citizens - aren't.


Of course they are, Herbie.  They just have a more open, a more cosmopolitan vision than you want them to.  Society is changing, Herbie.  It is not frozen in time.   ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 7th, 2015 at 7:18pm

|dev|null wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Pat has made another vid about Brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8bmMrfMYw


Still resorting to the entertainer to do your business and thinking for you Soren?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D



Of course he is.  He'd rather use a video from an entertainer than to actually articulate his own arguments in his own words.   It's easier for him this way.  Such a sad, sad, man.    ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 1:08pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 9:13am:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Pat has made another vid about Brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8bmMrfMYw


Still resorting to the entertainer to do your business and thinking for you Soren?   



Sore End should do a double act with the comedian - he could be his straight man.


You are invited to counter any of his argument, if you are able.



Comedians have skits, not arguments.

You stupid coward. You have no counter-argument - so you pretend HE hasn't presented any.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 7:18pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Pat has made another vid about Brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8bmMrfMYw


Still resorting to the entertainer to do your business and thinking for you Soren?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D



Of course he is.  He'd rather use a video from an entertainer than to actually articulate his own arguments in his own words.   It's easier for him this way.  Such a sad, sad, man.    ::)

You stupid coward. You have no counter-argument - so you pretend HE hasn't presented any.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 7:14pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 12:46pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9SIcIvuKWQ
]


So, if a Hindu buckles under the pressure of being persecuted that is a good thing as against a Muslim who fights back, Soren?

Of course, we know you enjoy persecuting people who are different, so of course you'd endorse what this entertainer is saying.  You were aware he's making these Islamophobic videos for his own enjoyment?   You were aware that he is in fact an entertainer, Soren?    ::)



Fight back?  Didn't the Muslim want to come to a Western country? And if not, why doesn't he go away?  Didn't he acquire citizenship? What the bloody hell is he fighting back against, Brain? If he can't be bothered to fit in, what the f Vck is he doing here?  Do they migrate to the West to fight back against Western norms and customs?


Please explain.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 7:16pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 6:26pm:
The tragedy of Western societies is that those who should be in politics and running the agenda for preserving the national heritage of their generational citizens - aren't.


Of course they are, Herbie.  They just have a more open, a more cosmopolitan vision than you want them to.  Society is changing, Herbie.  It is not frozen in time.   ::)

How has Islam improved any Western society?

More female genital mutilation, more gender segregation, more religious rent-seeking, more division, more terrorism, more crime, more aggro, more friction, more restrictions on freedoms, more unease all round.

I cannot thing of a single social, political, ethical, cultural or artistic improvement that Islam can claim as its contribution to Western societies. I can onlyt find negatives and degradations. You will be able to even up the balance, no doubt.

Let's hear it, Brain.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 7th, 2015 at 10:57pm

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 7:18pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 7:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Pat has made another vid about Brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8bmMrfMYw


Still resorting to the entertainer to do your business and thinking for you Soren?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D



Of course he is.  He'd rather use a video from an entertainer than to actually articulate his own arguments in his own words.   It's easier for him this way.  Such a sad, sad, man.    ::)

You stupid coward. You have no counter-argument - so you pretend HE hasn't presented any.


Well, actually I did and you replied to it, Soren.   This was a comment on Hot Breath's comment, nothing more.   Good to see your keeping up your skills at ad hominem debate, Soren.   ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 7th, 2015 at 11:03pm

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
Fight back?  Didn't the Muslim want to come to a Western country?


So, you're suggesting that religious and racial persecution are the norm in Western countries, Soren?  That Muslims should just keep their heads down and put up with the slurs made against them all the time?   ::)


Quote:
And if not, why doesn't he go away?  Didn't he acquire citizenship? What the bloody hell is he fighting back against, Brain? If he can't be bothered to fit in, what the f Vck is he doing here?  Do they migrate to the West to fight back against Western norms and customs?

Please explain.


"Sometimes survival isn't enough", was the line in an American civil rights film I once saw, Soren and those words have always stayed with me.  "Sometimes survival isn't enough."   Muslim people are well, people, Soren and deserve the same consideration that all other people do.  A Muslim person should be able to walk down the street with their head held high, looking each and everyone of their fellow citizens in the eyes and expect to be treated decently and with respect.   Their religious beliefs deserve to be respected as well.  Being a non-Christian deserves just as much respect as a Christian's beliefs.   Something I note you refuse to do.   You won't even tolerate their beliefs or their presence in Australia or any other Western country.    ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 8th, 2015 at 11:55am

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 12:50pm:
None of you have ever been able to offer any counter-arguments to any of Condell's points, ever. Until you do you are just sneering and snarling as usual.


It just proves their dislike of what Condell says is based purely upon set-in-concrete Leftwing ideology and not upon rational argument.

 

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 8th, 2015 at 2:48pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 11:03pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
Fight back?  Didn't the Muslim want to come to a Western country?


So, you're suggesting that religious and racial persecution are the norm in Western countries, Soren?  That Muslims should just keep their heads down and put up with the slurs made against them all the time?   ::)


Quote:
And if not, why doesn't he go away?  Didn't he acquire citizenship? What the bloody hell is he fighting back against, Brain? If he can't be bothered to fit in, what the f Vck is he doing here?  Do they migrate to the West to fight back against Western norms and customs?

Please explain.


"Sometimes survival isn't enough", was the line in an American civil rights film I once saw, Soren and those words have always stayed with me.  "Sometimes survival isn't enough."   Muslim people are well, people, Soren and deserve the same consideration that all other people do.  A Muslim person should be able to walk down the street with their head held high, looking each and everyone of their fellow citizens in the eyes and expect to be treated decently and with respect.   Their religious beliefs deserve to be respected as well.  Being a non-Christian deserves just as much respect as a Christian's beliefs.   Something I note you refuse to do.   You won't even tolerate their beliefs or their presence in Australia or any other Western country.    ::)



Self-segregation (Muslim practice) is not the same as the segregation that the civil rights movement challenged, Brain.

Religious or other believes do not 'deserve' to be respected. If they are stupid, cruel, oppressive, they deserve scorn and opposition only. Some Christian beliefs are not 'respected' for just such reasons and Islam has no special claim to respect. The ever-present threat of violence if sufficient respect is not shown must not be confused with Islam 'deserving' respect.
There must be no special consideration for any belief system.


It is sign of your confusion to suggest that if one belief system is respected then all others must also be respected.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:56pm

Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
Self-segregation (Muslim practice) is not the same as the segregation that the civil rights movement challenged, Brain.


Why shouldn't they be allowed to practice (within the existing law) their religion, Soren?  Remember, "sometimes, survival isn't enough".  Why do they have to go underground just to not offend you?  What law requires that in Australia, Soren?  Remember Section 116 of the Australian Constitution?


Quote:
The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.


See that, "shall not make any law...for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion."  Islam is a religion, Soren.   No Government in Australia can pass a law which prohibits the free exercise of any religion.   Time you realised that and learned to deal with it.   ::)

Muslims who are citizens are covered by the provisions of our Constitution.  Good luck trying to organise a referendum to rescind Section 116.    ::) ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
Self-segregation (Muslim practice) is not the same as the segregation that the civil rights movement challenged, Brain.


Why shouldn't they be allowed to practice (within the existing law) their religion, Soren?  Remember, "sometimes, survival isn't enough".  Why do they have to go underground just to not offend you?  What law requires that in Australia, Soren?  Remember Section 116 of the Australian Constitution?



Why should I not be able to express my disdain and disapproval for their self-segregation? I am not making them go underground, I am just expressing what I thing of their religion.



Perfectly OK and constitutional.

What is NOT ok is their going apeshite  if someone doesn't respect Mohammed. religious freedom doesn't mean respect. They are free to practice their religion and I am free to think and say that it is something I dislike and do not support.
I am not an employer, I am not a government department, I can therefore freely say if I do not like  belief system or a religion.


We do not have to LIKE Islam, Brain. Not yet, not yet.




Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:27pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 11:55am:

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 12:50pm:
None of you have ever been able to offer any counter-arguments to any of Condell's points, ever. Until you do you are just sneering and snarling as usual.


It just proves their dislike of what Condell says is based purely upon set-in-concrete Leftwing ideology and not upon rational argument.

 



No.

He's a comedian.

He doesn't have an argument - he has a skit.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:37pm

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:46pm:
How has Islam improved any Western society?



How have you?


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:37pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:46pm:
How has Islam improved any Western society?



How have you?

I am not revolting against it, two-fire-doors.    And I have been upholding and supporting its values, just as a BTW.


Cheeses, you are a fascinatingly stupid specimen, aren't you? We are discussing Islam  - and then you switch to me, just when I caught you out for having no answer.  And you think you are some sort of tactical fricken cleverdick!!   Your obliviousness to your shallowness is what I enjoy most about your posts. You just do not realise how thick and stupid you really are.  You are a laughable thicko, gweg.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:06pm

Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:37pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:46pm:
How has Islam improved any Western society?



How have you?

I am not revolting.



Don't underestimate yourself, Sore End.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:06pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:37pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:46pm:
How has Islam improved any Western society?



How have you?

I am not revolting.



Don't underestimate yourself, Sore End.

Your obliviousness to your shallowness is what I enjoy most about your posts. You just do not realise how thick and stupid you really are.  You are a laughable thicko, gweg.

Title: What motivates Sore End?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:21pm

Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:06pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:37pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:46pm:
How has Islam improved any Western society?



How have you?

I am not revolting.



Don't underestimate yourself, Sore End.

Your obliviousness to your shallowness is what I enjoy most about your posts.


As long as you're enjoying them.  That's the main thing.



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 9th, 2015 at 12:05am

Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
Self-segregation (Muslim practice) is not the same as the segregation that the civil rights movement challenged, Brain.


Why shouldn't they be allowed to practice (within the existing law) their religion, Soren?  Remember, "sometimes, survival isn't enough".  Why do they have to go underground just to not offend you?  What law requires that in Australia, Soren?  Remember Section 116 of the Australian Constitution?



Why should I not be able to express my disdain and disapproval for their self-segregation? I am not making them go underground, I am just expressing what I thing of their religion.


What you "thing of their religion"?  I'm sorry, it appears your ability to type in English is failing you, Soren.    ::)


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by freediver on Jul 9th, 2015 at 12:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 11:03pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
Fight back?  Didn't the Muslim want to come to a Western country?


So, you're suggesting that religious and racial persecution are the norm in Western countries, Soren?  That Muslims should just keep their heads down and put up with the slurs made against them all the time?   ::)


Quote:
And if not, why doesn't he go away?  Didn't he acquire citizenship? What the bloody hell is he fighting back against, Brain? If he can't be bothered to fit in, what the f Vck is he doing here?  Do they migrate to the West to fight back against Western norms and customs?

Please explain.


"Sometimes survival isn't enough", was the line in an American civil rights film I once saw, Soren and those words have always stayed with me.  "Sometimes survival isn't enough."   Muslim people are well, people, Soren and deserve the same consideration that all other people do.  A Muslim person should be able to walk down the street with their head held high, looking each and everyone of their fellow citizens in the eyes and expect to be treated decently and with respect.   Their religious beliefs deserve to be respected as well.  Being a non-Christian deserves just as much respect as a Christian's beliefs.   Something I note you refuse to do.   You won't even tolerate their beliefs or their presence in Australia or any other Western country.    ::)


That's just stupid Brian, and it is telling that it comes from the same person who insists he has neither the right or ability to criticise other cultures or religions.

If someone makes sexism, racism, mass murder etc part of their religion, does that mean you would respect sexism, racism and mass murder? If someone makes the mockery of Islam part of their religion, would you respect the mockery of Islam?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Yadda on Jul 9th, 2015 at 1:08pm

freediver wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 12:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 11:03pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
Fight back?  Didn't the Muslim want to come to a Western country?


So, you're suggesting that religious and racial persecution are the norm in Western countries, Soren?  That Muslims should just keep their heads down and put up with the slurs made against them all the time?   ::)


Quote:
And if not, why doesn't he go away?  Didn't he acquire citizenship? What the bloody hell is he fighting back against, Brain? If he can't be bothered to fit in, what the f Vck is he doing here?  Do they migrate to the West to fight back against Western norms and customs?

Please explain.


"Sometimes survival isn't enough", was the line in an American civil rights film I once saw, Soren and those words have always stayed with me.  "Sometimes survival isn't enough."   Muslim people are well, people, Soren and deserve the same consideration that all other people do.  A Muslim person should be able to walk down the street with their head held high, looking each and everyone of their fellow citizens in the eyes and expect to be treated decently and with respect.   Their religious beliefs deserve to be respected as well.  Being a non-Christian deserves just as much respect as a Christian's beliefs.   Something I note you refuse to do.   You won't even tolerate their beliefs or their presence in Australia or any other Western country.    ::)


That's just stupid Brian,        and it is telling that it comes from the same person who insists he has neither the right or ability to criticise other cultures or religions.

If someone makes sexism, racism, mass murder etc part of their religion, does that mean you would respect sexism, racism and mass murder? If someone makes the mockery of Islam part of their religion, would you respect the mockery of Islam?




"Stupid is, as stupid does."
- Homer Simpson

IMAGE...




Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Yadda on Jul 9th, 2015 at 1:15pm

freediver wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 12:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 11:03pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
Fight back?  Didn't the Muslim want to come to a Western country?


So, you're suggesting that religious and racial persecution are the norm in Western countries, Soren?  That Muslims should just keep their heads down and put up with the slurs made against them all the time?   ::)


Quote:
And if not, why doesn't he go away?  Didn't he acquire citizenship? What the bloody hell is he fighting back against, Brain? If he can't be bothered to fit in, what the f Vck is he doing here?  Do they migrate to the West to fight back against Western norms and customs?

Please explain.


"Sometimes survival isn't enough", was the line in an American civil rights film I once saw, Soren and those words have always stayed with me.  "Sometimes survival isn't enough."   Muslim people are well, people, Soren and deserve the same consideration that all other people do.  A Muslim person should be able to walk down the street with their head held high, looking each and everyone of their fellow citizens in the eyes and expect to be treated decently and with respect.   Their religious beliefs deserve to be respected as well.  Being a non-Christian deserves just as much respect as a Christian's beliefs.   Something I note you refuse to do.   You won't even tolerate their beliefs or their presence in Australia or any other Western country.    ::)


That's just stupid Brian, and it is telling that it comes from the same person who insists he has neither the right or ability to criticise other cultures or religions.

If someone makes sexism, racism, mass murder etc part of their religion, does that mean you would respect sexism, racism and mass murder?


If someone makes the mockery of Islam part of their religion, would you respect the mockery of Islam?



e.g.

ISLAM teaches moslems, to DISRESPECT all other faiths and, to DISRESPECT their followers - as the imams teach the moslems, that ISLAM alone, is a Allah's perfect religion.



e.g.

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110




Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 9th, 2015 at 1:16pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 12:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 11:03pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
Fight back?  Didn't the Muslim want to come to a Western country?


So, you're suggesting that religious and racial persecution are the norm in Western countries, Soren?  That Muslims should just keep their heads down and put up with the slurs made against them all the time?   ::)


Quote:
And if not, why doesn't he go away?  Didn't he acquire citizenship? What the bloody hell is he fighting back against, Brain? If he can't be bothered to fit in, what the f Vck is he doing here?  Do they migrate to the West to fight back against Western norms and customs?

Please explain.


"Sometimes survival isn't enough", was the line in an American civil rights film I once saw, Soren and those words have always stayed with me.  "Sometimes survival isn't enough."   Muslim people are well, people, Soren and deserve the same consideration that all other people do.  A Muslim person should be able to walk down the street with their head held high, looking each and everyone of their fellow citizens in the eyes and expect to be treated decently and with respect.   Their religious beliefs deserve to be respected as well.  Being a non-Christian deserves just as much respect as a Christian's beliefs.   Something I note you refuse to do.   You won't even tolerate their beliefs or their presence in Australia or any other Western country.    ::)


That's just stupid Brian, and it is telling that it comes from the same person who insists he has neither the right or ability to criticise other cultures or religions.

If someone makes sexism, racism, mass murder etc part of their religion, does that mean you would respect sexism, racism and mass murder?


If someone makes the mockery of Islam part of their religion, would you respect the mockery of Islam?



e.g.

ISLAM teaches moslems, to DISRESPECT all other faiths and, to DISRESPECT their followers - as ISLAM alone, is a Allah's perfect religion.



e.g.

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110



You never blame the individual who does the killing - you always blame a belief system and/or a book.

Why is that?  Why do you always make excuses for these murderers?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Yadda on Jul 9th, 2015 at 1:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

ISLAM teaches moslems, to DISRESPECT all other faiths and, to DISRESPECT their followers - as ISLAM alone, is a Allah's perfect religion.



e.g.

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110



You never blame the individual who does the killing - you always blame a belief system and/or a book.

Why is that?  Why do you always make excuses for these murderers?



Response     ------- >

Yadda said...
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1436235905/51#51

Quote:

greggery,

Regards your post #50.

Another epic fail, in logic and reason.


I'll give you 100% though,       for 'unsupported opinion', and for empty name calling  ["terrorist sympathisers"].




Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 9th, 2015 at 1:23pm


You never blame the individual who does the killing - you always blame a belief system and/or a book.

Why is that?  Why do you always make excuses for these murderers?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by moses on Jul 9th, 2015 at 3:18pm

Quote:
You never blame the individual who does the killing - you always blame a belief system and/or a book.

Why is that?  Why do you always make excuses for these murderers?


The book and belief system is the root cause of islamic atrocities.

muslims are the product of 50 odd generations of absolute submission to the root cause of islamic depravity.

The book and the belief system has to be entirely reformed, before we can expect to see any change in the behavioural pattern of muslims.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 9th, 2015 at 3:22pm

moses wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

Quote:
You never blame the individual who does the killing - you always blame a belief system and/or a book.

Why is that?  Why do you always make excuses for these murderers?


The book and belief system is the root cause of islamic atrocities.

muslims are the product of 50 odd generations of absolute submission to the root cause of islamic depravity.

The book and the belief system has to be entirely reformed, before we can expect to see any change in the behavioural pattern of muslims.




Another apologist for killers.

Why is it that not one of you has the balls to blame the individual that holds the knife/gun/bomb?

Cowards, perhaps?



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by moses on Jul 9th, 2015 at 3:31pm
muslims and their apologists may bend over backwards to excuse the root cause of degenerate muslim behaviour (their book and belief system).

Can you give an example of how to blame a muslim.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 9th, 2015 at 7:34pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 12:05am:

Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
Self-segregation (Muslim practice) is not the same as the segregation that the civil rights movement challenged, Brain.


Why shouldn't they be allowed to practice (within the existing law) their religion, Soren?  Remember, "sometimes, survival isn't enough".  Why do they have to go underground just to not offend you?  What law requires that in Australia, Soren?  Remember Section 116 of the Australian Constitution?



Why should I not be able to express my disdain and disapproval for their self-segregation? I am not making them go underground, I am just expressing what I think of their religion.


What you "think of their religion"?  I'm sorry, it appears your ability to type in English is failing you, Soren.    ::)

Corrected.

What's your response, BGB (other than stupid eye-rolling):

Why should I not be able to express my disdain and disapproval for their self-segregation? I am not making them go underground, I am just expressing what I think of their religion.




Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 9th, 2015 at 7:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 3:22pm:

moses wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

Quote:
You never blame the individual who does the killing - you always blame a belief system and/or a book.

Why is that?  Why do you always make excuses for these murderers?


The book and belief system is the root cause of islamic atrocities.

muslims are the product of 50 odd generations of absolute submission to the root cause of islamic depravity.

The book and the belief system has to be entirely reformed, before we can expect to see any change in the behavioural pattern of muslims.




Another apologist for killers.

Why is it that not one of you has the balls to blame the individual that holds the knife/gun/bomb?

Cowards, perhaps?

Because they are all say they are soldiers of Allah, that they act in the name of Islam - they all do.

Are you a racist bigot, gweg, and refuse to take them at their word simply because they are not white Northern Europeans?



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 9th, 2015 at 7:42pm

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 7:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 3:22pm:

moses wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

Quote:
You never blame the individual who does the killing - you always blame a belief system and/or a book.

Why is that?  Why do you always make excuses for these murderers?


The book and belief system is the root cause of islamic atrocities.

muslims are the product of 50 odd generations of absolute submission to the root cause of islamic depravity.

The book and the belief system has to be entirely reformed, before we can expect to see any change in the behavioural pattern of muslims.




Another apologist for killers.

Why is it that not one of you has the balls to blame the individual that holds the knife/gun/bomb?

Cowards, perhaps?

Because they are all say they are soldiers of Allah, that they act in the name of Islam - they all do.



Who does the killing - Allah, Islam, or the humans?

Take your time to think about it.

(Hint: the answer is "the humans").

So, why don't you ever put the blame on the humans?  Why do you always make excuses for these murderers by putting the blame on a book and a belief system?

You can tell us the truth.  We won't judge you.  Why are you a terrorist apologist?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 7:42pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 7:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 3:22pm:

moses wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

Quote:
You never blame the individual who does the killing - you always blame a belief system and/or a book.

Why is that?  Why do you always make excuses for these murderers?


The book and belief system is the root cause of islamic atrocities.

muslims are the product of 50 odd generations of absolute submission to the root cause of islamic depravity.

The book and the belief system has to be entirely reformed, before we can expect to see any change in the behavioural pattern of muslims.




Another apologist for killers.

Why is it that not one of you has the balls to blame the individual that holds the knife/gun/bomb?

Cowards, perhaps?

Because they are all say they are soldiers of Allah, that they act in the name of Islam - they all do.



Who does the killing - Allah, Islam, or the humans?

Take your time to think about it.

(Hint: the answer is "the humans").

So, why don't you ever put the blame on the humans?  Why do you always make excuses for these murderers by putting the blame on a book and a belief system?

You can tell us the truth.  We won't judge you.  Why are you a terrorist apologist?

Murderers acting in the name of Islam.



There are no similar murderers acting in the name of any other creed or religion or ideology- so Islam MUST be recognised as a significant motivation (except for blind and stupid ijits like you, gweg).


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:06pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:37pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:46pm:
How has Islam improved any Western society?



How have you?

I am not revolting.



Don't underestimate yourself, Sore End.




Your pr!ck must be bleeding raw, gweg, with the amount of  excruciating dry wanking you do on these boards, you sad, irrelevant little union official.

Fap on. That's all you can do.





Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:37pm

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:27pm:
Islam MUST be recognised as a significant motivation



Motivation?  Sure.

Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them, though?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:27pm:
Islam MUST be recognised as a significant motivation



Motivation?  Sure.

Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them, though?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?

THEY say it is their motivation, ya brainless fapper. Are you disputing THEIR ability to identify THEIR own motivations, you racist bigot?




Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by freediver on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:27pm:
Islam MUST be recognised as a significant motivation



Motivation?  Sure.

Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them, though?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?


So why did you push that idiotic nonsense about Aussie Muslims raping and pillaging their way across western Sydney instead of the middle east for some other reason if they were not Muslims? Did you forget what flavour of stupid you were spewing this week?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:56pm

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:27pm:
Islam MUST be recognised as a significant motivation



Motivation?  Sure.

Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them, though?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?

THEY say it is their motivation, ya brainless person. Are you disputing THEIR ability to identify THIR own motivations, you racist bigot?



Put your glasses on, Sore End.

I said: "Motivation?  Sure."

That means I agree with you.

That is, I agree that they are motivated by Islam.

Just so that you understand: they are, without a shadow of a doubt, motivated by Islam.

Right, now that we have that out of the way ...

... Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 9th, 2015 at 10:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:27pm:
Islam MUST be recognised as a significant motivation



Motivation?  Sure.

Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them, though?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?

THEY say it is their motivation, ya brainless person. Are you disputing THEIR ability to identify THIR own motivations, you racist bigot?



Put your glasses on, Sore End.

I said: "Motivation?  Sure."

That means I agree with you.

That is, I agree that they are motivated by Islam.

Just so that you understand: they are, without a shadow of a doubt, motivated by Islam.

Right, now that we have that out of the way ...

... Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?

What 'excuse' ya pillock??


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 9th, 2015 at 10:33pm

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 10:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:27pm:
Islam MUST be recognised as a significant motivation



Motivation?  Sure.

Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them, though?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?

THEY say it is their motivation, ya brainless person. Are you disputing THEIR ability to identify THIR own motivations, you racist bigot?



Put your glasses on, Sore End.

I said: "Motivation?  Sure."

That means I agree with you.

That is, I agree that they are motivated by Islam.

Just so that you understand: they are, without a shadow of a doubt, motivated by Islam.

Right, now that we have that out of the way ...

... Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?

What 'excuse' ya pillock??



Islam, ya terrorist apologist.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 9th, 2015 at 11:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 10:33pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 10:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:27pm:
Islam MUST be recognised as a significant motivation



Motivation?  Sure.

Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them, though?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?

THEY say it is their motivation, ya brainless person. Are you disputing THEIR ability to identify THIR own motivations, you racist bigot?



Put your glasses on, Sore End.

I said: "Motivation?  Sure."

That means I agree with you.

That is, I agree that they are motivated by Islam.

Just so that you understand: they are, without a shadow of a doubt, motivated by Islam.

Right, now that we have that out of the way ...

... Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?

What 'excuse' ya pillock??



Islam, ya terrorist apologist.

Thank you for remaining incoherent.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 9th, 2015 at 11:09pm

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 11:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 10:33pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 10:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:27pm:
Islam MUST be recognised as a significant motivation



Motivation?  Sure.

Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them, though?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?

THEY say it is their motivation, ya brainless person. Are you disputing THEIR ability to identify THIR own motivations, you racist bigot?



Put your glasses on, Sore End.

I said: "Motivation?  Sure."

That means I agree with you.

That is, I agree that they are motivated by Islam.

Just so that you understand: they are, without a shadow of a doubt, motivated by Islam.

Right, now that we have that out of the way ...

... Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?

What 'excuse' ya pillock??



Islam, ya terrorist apologist.

Thank you .



You're welcome.

Terrorist apologist.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Yadda on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:16am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 1:23pm:

You never blame the individual who does the killing - you always blame a belief system and/or a book.

Why is that?

Why do you always make excuses for these murderers?


< ---------

Incoherent and illogical.


Dictionary;
incoherent = = incomprehensible or confusing in speech or writing.     internally inconsistent; illogical.


Still no logical proposition.




.




In a sane world,       a nation like Australia would simply decide to BAN the PRACTICE of ISLAM, within Australia.

How?

Easy.


All it would take, would be for our federal parliament to pass legislation to BAN the PRACTICE of ISLAM, within Australia.

To make ISLAM a proscribed philosophy, within Australia.



BUT WHY?

Easy.


CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0

Quote:

Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.


ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers'].


.....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.








.




WHY?

Easy.


Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda



QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?





.





WHY?

Easy.


Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW,      TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.



Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;


Quote:

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4





.





WHY?

Easy.


Quote:

" "You're never too young to be a soldier of Kalifah."

...and [these moslem children] promise to die fighting to end Democracy in Australia"






Watch a group of moslem children, being coached by moslem adults, to hate Australia, and Australians,
......HERE, WITHIN AUSTRALIA.       !!!!

And of course this cultural coaching of moslem children is all happening behind closed doors, and out of the public eye.


------------- >

Muslims brainwash children in Australia  -------- >   goto 43 sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:24am

Apologist.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Yadda on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:46am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:24am:

Apologist.


< ---------

Still empty name calling ["Apologist."].


Still nothing but incoherent and illogical posts from,    ....greggery.


Dictionary;
incoherent = = incomprehensible or confusing in speech or writing.     internally inconsistent; illogical.


Still no logical proposition.





Nothing has changed in the last 5 minutes;


greggery is still an apologist, for a murderous death cult and its members.



greggery wants to silence anyone who is calling for ISLAM and moslems, to be put under moral scrutiny.



greggery still refuses to present an argument for any action which would effectively counter a murderous death cult and its members.



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 10th, 2015 at 12:12pm

More excuses.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Phemanderac on Jul 10th, 2015 at 12:33pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:16am:
In a sane world,       a nation like Australia would simply decide to BAN the PRACTICE of ISLAM, within Australia.

How?

Easy.


All it would take, would be for our federal parliament to pass legislation to BAN the PRACTICE of ISLAM, within Australia.

To make ISLAM a proscribed philosophy, within Australia.


Actually, a sane world would ban the practice of any organised religion...

How?

Easy, at least in Australia.


All it would take, would be for our federal parliament to pass legislation to BAN the PRACTICE of ORGANISED religion, within Australia.


To make ORGANISED religion a proscribed act, within Australia.

There, fixed.

Of course, another very sane act would be to hold individual to account for the choices that they make, particularly when those choices are murderous, destructive and/or cause mental, physical and/or emotional harm....

Seems that this is the point some apparently very astute observers are choosing to disregard.

This is all about choices that individuals make - on both sides of the chat...

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by freediver on Jul 10th, 2015 at 12:40pm

Quote:
Actually, a sane world would ban the practice of any organised religion...

How?

Easy.


No consitutional or human rights issues to worry about hey?


Quote:
Seems that this is the point some apparently very astute observers are choosing to disregard.


You mean all those critics of Islam calling for Muslims to be excused of their crimes on account of Islam? No matter how stupid Greg's arguments, he can always find someone to parrot them.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:01pm

Phemanderac wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 12:33pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:16am:
In a sane world,       a nation like Australia would simply decide to BAN the PRACTICE of ISLAM, within Australia.

How?

Easy.


All it would take, would be for our federal parliament to pass legislation to BAN the PRACTICE of ISLAM, within Australia.

To make ISLAM a proscribed philosophy, within Australia.


Actually, a sane world would ban the practice of any organised religion...

How?

Easy, at least in Australia.


All it would take, would be for our federal parliament to pass legislation to BAN the PRACTICE of ORGANISED religion, within Australia.


To make ORGANISED religion a proscribed act, within Australia.

There, fixed.

Of course, another very sane act would be to hold individual to account for the choices that they make, particularly when those choices are murderous, destructive and/or cause mental, physical and/or emotional harm....

Seems that this is the point some apparently very astute observers are choosing to disregard.

This is all about choices that individuals make - on both sides of the chat...



Except such a law wouldn't last five minutes before the High Court because of Section 116 of the Australian Constitution.    ::) ::)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:56pm:
Just so that you understand: they are, without a shadow of a doubt, motivated by Islam.

Right, now that we have that out of the way ...

... Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?



So we agree that they are motivated by Islam - but if I say that they are motivated by Islam I am an apologist.


You are truly the stupidest pr!ck who has ever disgraced these boards, thicko.  Just dense like cold concrete.





Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:35pm

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:56pm:
Just so that you understand: they are, without a shadow of a doubt, motivated by Islam.

Right, now that we have that out of the way ...

... Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?


So we agree that they are motivated by Islam - but if I say that they are motivated by Islam I am an apologist.



Of course we agree.  I've never said anything to the contrary.

However, you allow them to use that motivation as an excuse.  I don't.

You're an apologist  I'm not.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:35pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:56pm:
Just so that you understand: they are, without a shadow of a doubt, motivated by Islam.

Right, now that we have that out of the way ...

... Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?


So we agree that they are motivated by Islam - but if I say that they are motivated by Islam I am an apologist.



Of course we agree.  I've never said anything to the contrary.

However, you allow them to use that motivation as an excuse.  I don't.

You're an apologist  I'm not.



Since when has motivation been irrelevant in human action?

The law - you are big on the law without knowing anything about it - weighs up agency, intention, motivation in every action that comes before it. Effect is secondary to agency. Agency is made up of intention, motivation, conscience.



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:51pm

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:35pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 9:56pm:
Just so that you understand: they are, without a shadow of a doubt, motivated by Islam.

Right, now that we have that out of the way ...

... Why do you continue to use it as an excuse for them?

Why are you a terrorist apologist?


So we agree that they are motivated by Islam - but if I say that they are motivated by Islam I am an apologist.



Of course we agree.  I've never said anything to the contrary.

However, you allow them to use that motivation as an excuse.  I don't.

You're an apologist  I'm not.



Since when has motivation been irrelevant in human action?

The law - you are big on the law without knowing anything about it - weighs up agency, intention, motivation in every action that comes before it. Effect is secondary to agency. Agency is made up of intention, motivation, conscience.



There you go, making excuses for terrorists again.

Tut tut, apologist.



Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
There you go, making excuses for terrorists again.

Tut tut, apologist.

Phew - thanks!!!!  For a moment I thought you actually had an argument.  But you have confirmed that you are just a trolling thicko with no actual point or idea.

THANKS!!


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:56pm

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
There you go, making excuses for terrorists again.

Tut tut, apologist.

For a moment I thought



A very brief moment.

Keep apologising for them, apologist.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
There you go, making excuses for terrorists again.

Tut tut, apologist.

For a moment I thought



A very brief moment.

Keep apologising for them, apologist.

..I thought you actually had an argument.  But you have confirmed that you are just a trolling thicko with no actual point or idea.

THANKS, THICKO!!!  Troll on, you sad little onanist.




Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:18pm

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
There you go, making excuses for terrorists again.

Tut tut, apologist.

For a moment I thought



A very brief moment.

Keep apologising for them, apologist.

..I thought



For just a very brief moment.

Apologist.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:18pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
There you go, making excuses for terrorists again.

Tut tut, apologist.

For a moment I thought



A very brief moment.

Keep apologising for them, apologist.

..I thought



For just a very brief moment.

Apologist.

;D

You are a sad w@anker and even you know it, firedoors.  Troll on, that's what you do.




Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:24pm

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:18pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
There you go, making excuses for terrorists again.

Tut tut, apologist.

For a moment I thought



A very brief moment.

Keep apologising for them, apologist.

..I thought



For just a very brief moment.

Apologist.

;D

You are a sad w@anker and even you know it, firedoors.  Troll on, that's what you do.



Keep making excuses for killers - that's what you do.

Apologist.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:24pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:18pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
There you go, making excuses for terrorists again.

Tut tut, apologist.

For a moment I thought



A very brief moment.

Keep apologising for them, apologist.

..I thought



For just a very brief moment.

Apologist.

;D

You are a sad w@anker and even you know it, firedoors.  Troll on, that's what you do.



Keep making excuses for killers - that's what you do.

Apologist.

I am delighted to see you so willing to make an utter fool of yourself, gweg.  There are many idiots on god's green earth but you stand alone, gweg, proud, eager even, to be noticed as a prize m0ron.

Carry on, you amuse and delight us all.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2015 at 5:18pm

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:24pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:18pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
There you go, making excuses for terrorists again.

Tut tut, apologist.

For a moment I thought



A very brief moment.

Keep apologising for them, apologist.

..I thought



For just a very brief moment.

Apologist.

;D

You are a sad w@anker and even you know it, firedoors.  Troll on, that's what you do.



Keep making excuses for killers - that's what you do.

Apologist.

I am delighted to see you so willing to make an utter fool of yourself, gweg.  There are many idiots on god's green earth but you stand alone, gweg, proud, eager even, to be noticed as a prize m0ron.

Carry on, you amuse and delight us all.



Apologist.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 17th, 2015 at 11:31am
I don't want any of you FOOLS trying to hang this on Islam in any shape or form.

I will report any RACIST attempts to blame this on ISLAM to Freediver.

link

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Pho Huc on Jul 17th, 2015 at 12:37pm
its obvious-he was brainwashed by the UFC  8-)

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 17th, 2015 at 12:42pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 17th, 2015 at 11:31am:
I don't want any of you FOOLS trying to hang this on Islam in any shape or form.

I will report any RACIST attempts to blame this on ISLAM to Freediver.

link



Indeed, Herbie.

The blame lies with Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez.

Any attempt to blame Islam, would be a clear case of making excuses for a murderer.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Phemanderac on Jul 17th, 2015 at 1:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:01pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 12:33pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:16am:
In a sane world,       a nation like Australia would simply decide to BAN the PRACTICE of ISLAM, within Australia.

How?

Easy.


All it would take, would be for our federal parliament to pass legislation to BAN the PRACTICE of ISLAM, within Australia.

To make ISLAM a proscribed philosophy, within Australia.


Actually, a sane world would ban the practice of any organised religion...

How?

Easy, at least in Australia.


All it would take, would be for our federal parliament to pass legislation to BAN the PRACTICE of ORGANISED religion, within Australia.


To make ORGANISED religion a proscribed act, within Australia.

There, fixed.

Of course, another very sane act would be to hold individual to account for the choices that they make, particularly when those choices are murderous, destructive and/or cause mental, physical and/or emotional harm....

Seems that this is the point some apparently very astute observers are choosing to disregard.

This is all about choices that individuals make - on both sides of the chat...



Except such a law wouldn't last five minutes before the High Court because of Section 116 of the Australian Constitution.    ::) ::)


That's probably true, it's just that it's a bit tough in modern Australia to remember there is a constitution.

I am none too convinced we follow it with any degree of consistency - it seems more for convenience.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 17th, 2015 at 1:57pm

Phemanderac wrote on Jul 17th, 2015 at 1:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:01pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 12:33pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 10th, 2015 at 11:16am:
In a sane world,       a nation like Australia would simply decide to BAN the PRACTICE of ISLAM, within Australia.

How?

Easy.


All it would take, would be for our federal parliament to pass legislation to BAN the PRACTICE of ISLAM, within Australia.

To make ISLAM a proscribed philosophy, within Australia.


Actually, a sane world would ban the practice of any organised religion...

How?

Easy, at least in Australia.


All it would take, would be for our federal parliament to pass legislation to BAN the PRACTICE of ORGANISED religion, within Australia.


To make ORGANISED religion a proscribed act, within Australia.

There, fixed.

Of course, another very sane act would be to hold individual to account for the choices that they make, particularly when those choices are murderous, destructive and/or cause mental, physical and/or emotional harm....

Seems that this is the point some apparently very astute observers are choosing to disregard.

This is all about choices that individuals make - on both sides of the chat...



Except such a law wouldn't last five minutes before the High Court because of Section 116 of the Australian Constitution.    ::) ::)


That's probably true, it's just that it's a bit tough in modern Australia to remember there is a constitution.

I am none too convinced we follow it with any degree of consistency ...



Indeed.

We have a Prime Minister, even though there's no mention of that position in The Constitution.

And, we let people with dual citizenship sit in parliament, even though The Constitution forbids it.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 17th, 2015 at 1:59pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 17th, 2015 at 11:31am:
I don't want any of you FOOLS trying to hang this on Islam in any shape or form.

I will report any RACIST attempts to blame this on ISLAM to Freediver.

link


The USA will probably call that one workplace violence herb

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Phemanderac on Jul 17th, 2015 at 2:00pm
I find it hilarious that the one simple word being overlooked is choice...

choice
[chois]
Spell Syllables
Synonyms Examples Word Origin
noun
1. an act or instance of choosing; selection:
Her choice of a computer was made after months of research. His parents were not happy with his choice of friends.
2. the right, power, or opportunity to choose; option:
The child had no choice about going to school.
3. the person or thing chosen or eligible to be chosen:
This book is my choice. He is one of many choices for the award.
4. an alternative:
There is another choice.
5. an abundance or variety from which to choose:
a wide choice of candidates.
6. something that is preferred or preferable to others; the best part of something:
Mare's Nest is the choice in the sixth race.
7. a carefully selected supply:
This restaurant has a fine choice of wines.

adjective, choicer, choicest.
9. worthy of being chosen; excellent; superior.
10. carefully selected:
choice words.
11. (in the grading of beef in the U.S.) rated between prime and good.
Idioms
12. of choice, that is generally preferred:
A detached house is still the home of choice.

You see that - it matters not what the "motivation" is, ultimately, because it all comes down to the decision the individual makes - the CHOICE they make to take action, whether that be to do the greater good or the greater evil.

Those who do not grasp this simple fact of life are the real apologists and excuse makers. Perhaps that is their choice, although it seems pretty obvious that, like those they apologise for, they will not take any responsibility for the choices they make.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 17th, 2015 at 2:06pm

Phemanderac wrote on Jul 17th, 2015 at 2:00pm:
You see that - it matters not what the "motivation" is, ultimately, because it all comes down to the decision the individual makes - the CHOICE they make to take action, whether that be to do the greater good or the greater evil.

Those who do not grasp this simple fact of life are the real apologists and excuse makers. Perhaps that is their choice, although it seems pretty obvious that, like those they apologise for, they will not take any responsibility for the choices they make.



100% correct.

Too many apologists for murderers on this forum.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 17th, 2015 at 7:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 17th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Jul 17th, 2015 at 2:00pm:
You see that - it matters not what the "motivation" is, ultimately, because it all comes down to the decision the individual makes - the CHOICE they make to take action, whether that be to do the greater good or the greater evil.

Those who do not grasp this simple fact of life are the real apologists and excuse makers. Perhaps that is their choice, although it seems pretty obvious that, like those they apologise for, they will not take any responsibility for the choices they make.



100% correct.

Too many apologists for murderers on this forum.



And what is the basis of an individual's choice of action??


Er... the balance of motivations.

But as we have learned in these past few years, everyone is motivated by their systems of belief except Muslims when they behave badly. Uniquely, Muslims never choose to act on the basis of their Islamic convictions when they do bad things. When they do nice things, of course its is ALL motivated by Islam, not personal, unfathomable choice.
Allahu Akhbaring Muslims wreacking havoc have nuffin' to do wiv Islam.


On the other hand, everyone who is critical of Islam is motivated by nothing but 'Islamophobia' while Muslims are never motivated by Islam.  I wonder why this piece of nonsense  was not revealed in the Koran. It is the kind of bizarre nonsense that the book is filled with.

Gwegowy s***g your d*** approvingly should be warning enough that you are on a completely wrong track.  But I do not think you are the kind of person who would take such unmissable and alarming warning sign into account.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Karnal on Jul 18th, 2015 at 5:53pm

Soren wrote on Jul 17th, 2015 at 7:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 17th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Jul 17th, 2015 at 2:00pm:
You see that - it matters not what the "motivation" is, ultimately, because it all comes down to the decision the individual makes - the CHOICE they make to take action, whether that be to do the greater good or the greater evil.

Those who do not grasp this simple fact of life are the real apologists and excuse makers. Perhaps that is their choice, although it seems pretty obvious that, like those they apologise for, they will not take any responsibility for the choices they make.



100% correct.

Too many apologists for murderers on this forum.



And what is the basis of an individual's choice of action??


Er... the balance of motivations.

But as we have learned in these past few years, everyone is motivated by their systems of belief except Muslims when they behave badly. Uniquely, Muslims never choose to act on the basis of their Islamic convictions when they do bad things. When they do nice things, of course its is ALL motivated by Islam, not personal, unfathomable choice.
Allahu Akhbaring Muslims wreacking havoc have nuffin' to do wiv Islam.


And what do we call those who's motivation is to carpetbomb the tinted races?

Life, liberty and the persuit of happiness, innit.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 19th, 2015 at 9:56am

Soren wrote on Jul 17th, 2015 at 7:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 17th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Jul 17th, 2015 at 2:00pm:
You see that - it matters not what the "motivation" is, ultimately, because it all comes down to the decision the individual makes - the CHOICE they make to take action, whether that be to do the greater good or the greater evil.

Those who do not grasp this simple fact of life are the real apologists and excuse makers. Perhaps that is their choice, although it seems pretty obvious that, like those they apologise for, they will not take any responsibility for the choices they make.



100% correct.

Too many apologists for murderers on this forum.



And what is the basis of an individual's choice of action??


Er... the balance of motivations.

But as we have learned in these past few years, everyone is motivated by their systems of belief except Muslims when they behave badly. Uniquely, Muslims never choose to act on the basis of their Islamic convictions when they do bad things. When they do nice things, of course its is ALL motivated by Islam, not personal, unfathomable choice.
Allahu Akhbaring Muslims wreacking havoc have nuffin' to do wiv Islam.


On the other hand, everyone who is critical of Islam is motivated by nothing but 'Islamophobia' while Muslims are never motivated by Islam.  I wonder why this piece of nonsense  was not revealed in the Koran. It is the kind of bizarre nonsense that the book is filled with.

Gwegowy s***g your d*** approvingly should be warning enough that you are on a completely wrong track.  But I do not think you are the kind of person who would take such unmissable and alarming warning sign into account.



More excuses from Sore End.

Motivation doesn't kill.  People kill.

Why do you defend murderers?

Apologist.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by gandalf on Jul 19th, 2015 at 10:25am

Soren wrote on Jul 17th, 2015 at 7:34pm:
But as we have learned in these past few years, everyone is motivated by their systems of belief except Muslims when they behave badly. Uniquely, Muslims never choose to act on the basis of their Islamic convictions when they do bad things. When they do nice things, of course its is ALL motivated by Islam, not personal, unfathomable choice.
Allahu Akhbaring Muslims wreacking havoc have nuffin' to do wiv Islam.


If only you could hear your own hypocricy S.

Is it not your argument that the peaceful and tolerant behaviour of the vast majority of muslims is not motivated by their religious beliefs?

You would never attribute good behaviour by muslims to their religious convictions - no matter how many times they cite their beliefs as justification. You will mock and sneer at them  as liars and hypocrites. And you will do this despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of muslims do this.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 19th, 2015 at 4:09pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 10:25am:

Soren wrote on Jul 17th, 2015 at 7:34pm:
But as we have learned in these past few years, everyone is motivated by their systems of belief except Muslims when they behave badly. Uniquely, Muslims never choose to act on the basis of their Islamic convictions when they do bad things. When they do nice things, of course its is ALL motivated by Islam, not personal, unfathomable choice.
Allahu Akhbaring Muslims wreacking havoc have nuffin' to do wiv Islam.


If only you could hear your own hypocricy S.

Is it not your argument that the peaceful and tolerant behaviour of the vast majority of muslims is not motivated by their religious beliefs?

You would never attribute good behaviour by muslims to their religious convictions - no matter how many times they cite their beliefs as justification. You will mock and sneer at them  as liars and hypocrites. And you will do this despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of muslims do this.


This is a silly argument, Gandy. You are trying to exaggerate things into caricatures (and we know how dangerous caricatures are in the eyes of some Muslims.)

JUST BECAUSE not every single Muslims from Mauritania to Pakistan is violent does not mean that these countries are not the way they are because of the influence of Islam.

The more Islam, the less freedom, less learning, less dynamism, human achievement. There is simply no exception.


Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by gandalf on Jul 19th, 2015 at 4:26pm
My point still stands S.

I'm looking at the individual level: you will never believe a peaceful, tolerant muslim when he says his Islamic faith motivates him to be peaceful and tolerant. Am I right? Or is that 'caricaturing' things too much? Prove me wrong then - show your capacity to acknowledge the goodwill of muslims and the good things their faith can inspire.

For me its a simple game of sums: the vast majority of muslims are peaceful and have no murderous intent. A tiny minority of muslims do. That should be enough to prove who are the "right" muslims. Yes it is more complicated - and you will seek to muddy the waters by pointing out that most of the 'peaceful' muslims are not devout, and therefore aren't motivated by their religion. But then I will counter by saying a good chunk (if not most) of the 'crazies' are not devout either. Not really - only in the sense that they are 'devoutly' looking forward to getting materialistic rewards for being killed on the battlefield - but otherwise don't really give a damn about all the articles of the Islamic faith. So clearly it cuts both ways, and we therefore find that the simplistic 'more non-terrorists than terrorist muslims' formula is as appropriate as any.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by freediver on Jul 19th, 2015 at 6:02pm

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I'm looking at the individual level: you will never believe a peaceful, tolerant muslim when he says his Islamic faith motivates him to be peaceful and tolerant. Am I right? Or is that 'caricaturing' things too much? Prove me wrong then - show your capacity to acknowledge the goodwill of muslims and the good things their faith can inspire.


Take Gandalf for example. What does Gandalf's Islamic faith motivate him to say about executing gays?


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For me its a simple game of sums: the vast majority of muslims are peaceful and have no murderous intent. A tiny minority of muslims do.


It does not hurt as much to be killed by a tiny minority. There's nothing worse than the vast majority hacking your head off.


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That should be enough to prove who are the "right" muslims.


Are they the ones who refrain from executing gays, or the ones who refrain from thinking that gays should be executed?


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Yes it is more complicated - and you will seek to muddy the waters by pointing out that most of the 'peaceful' muslims are not devout, and therefore aren't motivated by their religion. But then I will counter by saying a good chunk (if not most) of the 'crazies' are not devout either. Not really - only in the sense that they are 'devoutly' looking forward to getting materialistic rewards for being killed on the battlefield - but otherwise don't really give a damn about all the articles of the Islamic faith. So clearly it cuts both ways, and we therefore find that the simplistic 'more non-terrorists than terrorist muslims' formula is as appropriate as any.


Are you suggesting that the 100 or so Aussie Muslims who traveled to the middle east to participate in the latest rape and pillage festival did so for the vast riches? IS have released propaganda videos showing them living the high life. They were eating a small plate of food off the floor.

In any case, is it not part of Islam to go into battle to acquire wealth, land and bitches?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by gandalf on Jul 19th, 2015 at 6:27pm
Well done FD - one of your best posts of completely inane non-points.

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Soren on Jul 20th, 2015 at 8:08pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
My point still stands S.

I'm looking at the individual level: you will never believe a peaceful, tolerant muslim when he says his Islamic faith motivates him to be peaceful and tolerant. Am I right? Or is that 'caricaturing' things too much? Prove me wrong then - show your capacity to acknowledge the goodwill of muslims and the good things their faith can inspire.

For me its a simple game of sums: the vast majority of muslims are peaceful and have no murderous intent. A tiny minority of muslims do. That should be enough to prove who are the "right" muslims. Yes it is more complicated - and you will seek to muddy the waters by pointing out that most of the 'peaceful' muslims are not devout, and therefore aren't motivated by their religion. But then I will counter by saying a good chunk (if not most) of the 'crazies' are not devout either. Not really - only in the sense that they are 'devoutly' looking forward to getting materialistic rewards for being killed on the battlefield - but otherwise don't really give a damn about all the articles of the Islamic faith. So clearly it cuts both ways, and we therefore find that the simplistic 'more non-terrorists than terrorist muslims' formula is as appropriate as any.



Not being a murderous, submission-demanding bastard is not a unique Islamic teaching.

It is being a normal person.  Islam didn't introduce 'normal'.  You cannot claim 'normal' as an Islamic achievement or innovation.


Islam introduced Submission, death for apostates, jihad, world-wide domination.




Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Pho Huc on Jul 20th, 2015 at 8:34pm

Soren wrote on Jul 20th, 2015 at 8:08pm:
[quote author=gandalf link=1435194910/155#155 date=1437287183]

It is being a normal person.  Islam didn't introduce 'normal'.  You cannot claim 'normal' as an Islamic achievement or innovation.


Islam introduced Submission, death for apostates, jihad, world-wide domination.


Islam didn't introduce any new human behaviors. we were doing everything we are doing now pre-Islam, and we will be doing everything we are doing now post-Islam.

And as for introducing that list of scary concepts i'm pretty sure the Mayans nailed most of those things several thousand years pre-Muhammad. 

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Karnal on Jul 20th, 2015 at 8:38pm

Soren wrote on Jul 20th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
My point still stands S.

I'm looking at the individual level: you will never believe a peaceful, tolerant muslim when he says his Islamic faith motivates him to be peaceful and tolerant. Am I right? Or is that 'caricaturing' things too much? Prove me wrong then - show your capacity to acknowledge the goodwill of muslims and the good things their faith can inspire.

For me its a simple game of sums: the vast majority of muslims are peaceful and have no murderous intent. A tiny minority of muslims do. That should be enough to prove who are the "right" muslims. Yes it is more complicated - and you will seek to muddy the waters by pointing out that most of the 'peaceful' muslims are not devout, and therefore aren't motivated by their religion. But then I will counter by saying a good chunk (if not most) of the 'crazies' are not devout either. Not really - only in the sense that they are 'devoutly' looking forward to getting materialistic rewards for being killed on the battlefield - but otherwise don't really give a damn about all the articles of the Islamic faith. So clearly it cuts both ways, and we therefore find that the simplistic 'more non-terrorists than terrorist muslims' formula is as appropriate as any.



Not being a murderous, submission-demanding bastard is not a unique Islamic teaching.

It is being a normal person.  Islam didn't introduce 'normal'.  You cannot claim 'normal' as an Islamic achievement or innovation.


Islam introduced Submission, death for apostates, jihad, world-wide domination.


All values you’ve espoused on a daily basis, old chap.

It is a jolly world, no?

Title: Re: But it's NOT Islam - you fools!
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 21st, 2015 at 6:38pm

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Laurent Sourisseau, editor of the snarky French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, said in a recent interview that the publication will no longer publish cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

Deutsche Welle reported on Saturday that Sourisseau told the German magazine Stern that Charlie Hebdo had accomplished its mission: “We’ve done our job. We have defended the right to caricature.”

The decision comes six-odd months after the militant Kouachi brothers stormed the magazine’s Paris offices in a deadly siege that left 12 people dead at the office. The victims included Charlie Hebdo’s editor at the time, Stephane “Charb” Charbonnier, and veteran cartoonists Jean “Cabu” Cabut, Bernard “Tignous” Verlhac and Georges Wolinski.

http://www.newsweek.com/charlie-hebdo-will-cease-publishing-cartoons-prophet-muhammad-355272


The religion of peace for the win....via violence and intimidation.   ::)

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