Response to AHPRA number 2.
Dear AHPRA,
1. I have no concern if you cancel my registration
2. I have no concern if you cancel my passport
3. I knew where I was coming
4. I intend to stay here
5. I anticipated an arrest warrant, hence why I left in secret
6. None of the case you put forward has indicated to me a malicious character on my behalf and it is this injustice within the Australian judicial system that was a catalyst for me to leave.
Do as you please, I no longer consider myself an Australian,
The continuous bombing of civillian targets here by the coalition has done nothing but dissapoint me of the country I once loved so much
regards
Tareq Kamleh

www.facebook.com/tareq.kamleh.7


How many civilians dead are the abbott mob complicit of?

____ wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 12:37pm:

Response to AHPRA number 2. Dear AHPRA, 1. I have no concern if you cancel my registration 2. I have no concern if you cancel my passport 3. I knew where I was coming 4. I intend to stay here 5. I anticipated an arrest warrant, hence why I left in secret 6. None of the case you put forward has indicated to me a malicious character on my behalf and it is this injustice within the Australian judicial system that was a catalyst for me to leave. Do as you please, I no longer consider myself an Australian, The continuous bombing of civillian targets here by the coalition has done nothing but dissapoint me of the country I once loved so much regards Tareq Kamleh www.facebook.com/tareq.kamleh.7 How many civilians dead are the abbott mob complicit of?

The greens believe propaganda from muslims yet hate the Christians and jews,has there ever been a more morally bankrupt political party.

The Australian planes are not targeting civillians,in fact if you look at their sortie record they refrain from bombing targets that could have civillians many times they return to base without bombing anything.

Did you know Australia is bombing the devout muslims who throw poofs like you from the tallest buildings,would you prefer we did nothing and just stand by while poofs like you are being thrown from buildings?
Is this what you support greenswine?
www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=gays+thrown+building

It's rightwing propaganda that pushes Greens hate religions. There are no facts to back it up.

As for propaganda from muslims, the abbott mob funding people smugglers shows it is worth listening to both sides before drawing a conclusion.

Now we have a doctor assisting babies like this one pictured.

As for throwing poofs from high building, the abbott mob wants to return gay refugees from their offshore gulags to the perpetrators of these actions. So these refugees can be pushed off too.

Because abbott hates gays also.

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____ wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 1:24pm:

Because abbott hates gays also.

Tony has a gay sister,does he hate his sister?

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 1:29pm:

____ wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 1:24pm: Because abbott hates gays also. Tony has a gay sister,does he hate his sister?

Yes.

Like he hates wind turbines, the constitution, women, the court system, independent human rights commissioners ... and so on.

yet another shyte topic Greenswine???
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
LW progs like yourself HATE
They hate individuals, their fellow countrymen and dissent. :D :D :D :D :D

Any posters who don't post on topic will be ignored.

Any pathetic gay fool who starts threads which totally lie in the title, and go on to misrepresent the truth,  will be pitied.

____ wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 1:39pm:

Any posters who don't post on topic will be ignored.

Really, you do that anyway when people ask you simple questions you find inconvenient to your misguided beliefs...
You also make extremely biased ignorant and hubristic comments about individuals all the time...  perhaps it is you we should all ignore.

Dropping bombs in war zones doesn't kill civilians?

Why is it frowned on by the hard right to have a debate. They hated it over Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Syria.

How many civilian men women and children are being killing by Australian dropped bombs?

Resolute wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 1:50pm:

Any pathetic gay fool who starts threads which totally lie in the title, and go on to misrepresent the truth,  will be pitied.

I like the fact that Dr Derka Derka proves my point about these dipsticks, that they don't see themselves as Australians, don't want to be Australian and are delusional when it comes to the real world vs Islam... or as it is really islam vs the rest.

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 1:57pm:

____ wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 1:39pm: Any posters who don't post on topic will be ignored. Really, you do that anyway when people ask you simple questions you find inconvenient to your misguided beliefs... You also make extremely biased ignorant and hubristic comments about individuals all the time...  perhaps it is you we should all ignore.

Ask him about wasting your time, Grendel.

Resolute wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 1:50pm:

Any pathetic gay fool who starts threads which totally lie in the title, and go on to misrepresent the truth,  will be pitied.

dont forget MOCKED.

green_poof only wants the law changed so gays can screw their brother (and yes, he is on record saying that)

____ wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 12:37pm:

Response to AHPRA number 2. Dear AHPRA, 1. I have no concern if you cancel my registration 2. I have no concern if you cancel my passport 3. I knew where I was coming 4. I intend to stay here 5. I anticipated an arrest warrant, hence why I left in secret 6. None of the case you put forward has indicated to me a malicious character on my behalf and it is this injustice within the Australian judicial system that was a catalyst for me to leave. Do as you please, I no longer consider myself an Australian, The continuous bombing of civillian targets here by the coalition has done nothing but dissapoint me of the country I once loved so much regards Tareq Kamleh www.facebook.com/tareq.kamleh.7 How many civilians dead are the abbott mob complicit of?

With that name I am not sure he had much Australian family history anyway.
He can leave as quick as he came.
Never understood who some immigrants think they are to dictate to locals.

Thanks to Uncle Sam and his cohorts (Australia)

http://www.artsjournal.com/herman/images/liberated_boy.jpg

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 5:42pm:

Thanks to Uncle Sam and his cohorts (Australia) http://www.artsjournal.com/herman/images/liberated_boy.jpg

And of course no blame whatsoever placed on the terrorist groups.
The mind of the left winger is just idiotic.

Really?
open the other eye and grow a brain eh pansi.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 5:46pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 5:42pm: Thanks to Uncle Sam and his cohorts (Australia) http://www.artsjournal.com/herman/images/liberated_boy.jpg And of course no blame whatsoever placed on the terrorist groups. The mind of the left winger is just idiotic.

Tell me Mr Hicks, what are we doing in the Land of Arabs.  You tell me that.

How absurd is it that Abbott gets to be all angry about Australian amateur civilians being there to do some killing, yet he is all hawkish about our Australian professional killers being there to do some mass killings?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 5:42pm:

Thanks to Uncle Sam and his cohorts (Australia) http://www.artsjournal.com/herman/images/liberated_boy.jpg

How do you know that wasn't the result of ISIS terrorists?

Aussie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 5:53pm:

what are we doing in the Land of Arabs.  You tell me that.

Introducing democracy so that they no longer have to live like animals in a jungle.

Here's a fact for you Pansi....  ISIS kills more Muslims and innocents than we do.

innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 6:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 5:53pm: what are we doing in the Land of Arabs.  You tell me that. Introducing democracy so that they no longer have to live like animals in a jungle.

By what right do we get to tell Arabs how to run their Countries?  I'll tell you....none, we have no right whatsoever, even if some local Tribe Leader invites us to give him a hand to win his shite fight.

The fact that some of you look at the picture Pansi posted and your only response is "Yeah well, the other guy is worse" shows very black hearts.

Shame on you.

Aussie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 6:14pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 6:07pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 5:53pm: what are we doing in the Land of Arabs.  You tell me that. Introducing democracy so that they no longer have to live like animals in a jungle. By what right do we get to tell Arabs how to run their Countries?  I'll tell you....none, we have no right whatsoever, even if some local Tribe Leader invites us to give him a hand to win his shite fight.

I agree, all troops and aid out of the shitholes.  Close the borders, leave the shitholes alone.  No matter what the bugger they get up to.  We have no right to tell them not to do ethnic cleansing or indulge in progroms. 

The must we should do is a symbolic smack delivered by way of the United Nations. 

mothra wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 6:22pm:

The fact that some of you look at the picture Pansi posted and your only response is "Yeah well, the other guy is worse" shows very black hearts. Shame on you.

So the truth is shameful.... ::) ::) ::)
that's a very interesting pov...  seen a shrink lately? :D
Nice simplistic strawman BTW :D :D :D :D :D

Aussie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 5:53pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 5:46pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 5:42pm: Thanks to Uncle Sam and his cohorts (Australia) http://www.artsjournal.com/herman/images/liberated_boy.jpg And of course no blame whatsoever placed on the terrorist groups. The mind of the left winger is just idiotic. Tell me Mr Hicks, what are we doing in the Land of Arabs.  You tell me that.

the problem is this aussie.  the answer to that question is a moral one and one that considers the rights of the innocents - something you have little to no regard for.  ISIS is murdering and raping (including chldren) its way across the M-E.  You dont think we should do something about that?  Tell me why we fought the nazis in WW2?  they werent threatening us, were they?

mothra wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 6:22pm:

The fact that some of you look at the picture Pansi posted and your only response is "Yeah well, the other guy is worse" shows very black hearts. Shame on you.

the 'shame' you claim began with pansi who used the picture to blame america for it with zero evidence to that effect.  From thereon, it was only ever going to go downhill.

War can't be fun without a little bit of collateral damage.....but it's worth it, no?


US airstrikes civilians killed

The Syrian Organization for Human Rights said in October that 32 civilians had been killed following the first month of coalition air strikes in Syria

As of January 5, the US has carried out 1,350 air strikes against Islamic State militants with 687 in Iraq and 663 in Syria, according to a Pentagon spokeswoman,

"What I know is that Central Command is investigating several (of) what they believe to be credible allegations of civilian casualties," Pentagon spokesman Rear Admiral John Kirby told reporters, according to AFP.

The US has been joined in airstrikes in Syria by Bahrain, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. The US-led coalition conducting airstrikes in Iraq includes Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, the Netherlands and Britain.


http://rt.com/news/220507-us-airstrikes-civilians-killed/

Actually, Pansi, in the context of wars from the 20th Century on - that is a very low relative number of civilian deaths.  All during the 20th Century the primary casualties of war were civilians.

So far this is a very constrained one... not quite the industrial war of the First and Second World Wars and a few others worthy of mention.

Not saying that to justify it in any way - just saying.

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 6:09pm:

Here's a fact for you Pansi....  ISIS kills more Muslims and innocents than we do.

That's a fact, but let's not make it a competition.

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 5:53pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 5:46pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 5:42pm: Thanks to Uncle Sam and his cohorts (Australia) http://www.artsjournal.com/herman/images/liberated_boy.jpg And of course no blame whatsoever placed on the terrorist groups. The mind of the left winger is just idiotic. Tell me Mr Hicks, what are we doing in the Land of Arabs.  You tell me that. the problem is this aussie.  the answer to that question is a moral one and one that considers the rights of the innocents - something you have little to no regard for.  ISIS is murdering and raping (including chldren) its way across the M-E.  You dont think we should do something about that?  Tell me why we fought the nazis in WW2?  they werent threatening us, were they?

Oh....so we justify it on the basis of morality.  Okay, so provided we can get morally outraged, it's okay that we go barging into someone else's shitfight in their Country, and take sides because only one side will be acting morally.    We pull out our guns as the Sheriff of Morals.  Gee, if that were true, we are very selective about where we allow our moral outrage to manifest itself with our professional killers.  How do we decide which rape or murder is more immoral?  Is it the one in Arabia, or in say Africa, or Thailand...where?

As for the Second World War, from memory, we got involved because Menzies, being a loyal lap dog to all things Great Britain, decided we should.  His very words of Declaration of War even made it plain that our sticking our nose in (from the other side of the Planet where we were in total safety) was a direct consequence of the Declaration of War against Germany made by the bloody Poms.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:08am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 6:09pm: Here's a fact for you Pansi....  ISIS kills more Muslims and innocents than we do. That's a fact, but let's not make it a competition.

Well there's certainly no competition regards your stupidity...  you should think about what you type before you do.
This whole topic is rubbish... and you with your comments add to it's stupidity.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:08am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 6:09pm: Here's a fact for you Pansi....  ISIS kills more Muslims and innocents than we do. That's a fact, but let's not make it a competition.

ISIS already are.  it would be nice for once if you could accept that the real enemy here is ISIS and not every western govt you have a beef with - ie all of them.

Aussie wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 3:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 7:33pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 5:53pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 5:46pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 5:42pm: Thanks to Uncle Sam and his cohorts (Australia) http://www.artsjournal.com/herman/images/liberated_boy.jpg And of course no blame whatsoever placed on the terrorist groups. The mind of the left winger is just idiotic. Tell me Mr Hicks, what are we doing in the Land of Arabs.  You tell me that. the problem is this aussie.  the answer to that question is a moral one and one that considers the rights of the innocents - something you have little to no regard for.  ISIS is murdering and raping (including chldren) its way across the M-E.  You dont think we should do something about that?  Tell me why we fought the nazis in WW2?  they werent threatening us, were they? Oh....so we justify it on the basis of morality.  Okay, so provided we can get morally outraged, it's okay that we go barging into someone else's shitfight in their Country, and take sides because only one side will be acting morally.    We pull out our guns as the Sheriff of Morals.  Gee, if that were true, we are very selective about where we allow our moral outrage to manifest itself with our professional killers.  How do we decide which rape or murder is more immoral?  Is it the one in Arabia, or in say Africa, or Thailand...where? As for the Second World War, from memory, we got involved because Menzies, being a loyal lap dog to all things Great Britain, decided we should.  His very words of Declaration of War even made it plain that our sticking our nose in (from the other side of the Planet where we were in total safety) was a direct consequence of the Declaration of War against Germany made by the bloody Poms.

and when the japanese came our way who made the big difference?  THE AMERICANS.  why did they not just protect themselves and leave the rest of the planet to the Axis powers??  I submit that the reason they did that will eternally escape you because you are without empathy for anyone.

You rant about morals but have no clue what they are.  You would walk past a man raping a woman and do nothing because it has nothing to do with you.  You already stated you didnt give a crap about the innocent victims of MH17 so you record for having no soul is already well established.

I wonder that if anyone asked you to define 'the right thing to do' you would even understand the question.

Quote:

and when the japanese came our way who made the big difference?  THE AMERICANS.  why did they not just protect themselves and leave the rest of the planet to the Axis powers??  I submit that the reason they did that will eternally escape you because you are without empathy for anyone.

Come on melielongtime.  Let's not re-write the history of WW2 in the Pacific.  The 'sleeping bear' got in here because it was aroused by some kerfuffle at Pearl Harbour and from that moment on, that Bear was after Tojo with or without us.  It was lucky coincidence that the interests of the Bear and the Kangaroo were the same at the relevant time.

Aussie wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:13pm:

Quote: and when the japanese came our way who made the big difference?  THE AMERICANS.  why did they not just protect themselves and leave the rest of the planet to the Axis powers??  I submit that the reason they did that will eternally escape you because you are without empathy for anyone. Come on melielongtime.  Let's not re-write the history of WW2 in the Pacific.  The 'sleeping bear' got in here because it was aroused by some kerfuffle at Pearl Harbour and from that moment on, that Bear was after Tojo with or without us.  It was lucky coincidence that the interests of the Bear and the Kangaroo were the same at the relevant time.

How about a link?

The terrorist scumbags use civilians as shields and this bloke is concerned about civilian casualties, bullshit....Australia should not be involved in a civil war but at least try to be objective before sticking up for these scumbags Greens!!!

>:( >:( >:(

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 6:09pm:

Here's a fact for you Pansi....  ISIS kills more Muslims and innocents than we do.

That doesn't make the ones we kill any less dead.

(Just another fact for you)

You can't win with you do-gooders. Do something and it's wrong. Don't do something and it's wrong. ISIS is a humanitarian disaster.

double plus good wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:13pm: Quote: and when the japanese came our way who made the big difference?  THE AMERICANS.  why did they not just protect themselves and leave the rest of the planet to the Axis powers??  I submit that the reason they did that will eternally escape you because you are without empathy for anyone. Come on melielongtime.  Let's not re-write the history of WW2 in the Pacific.  The 'sleeping bear' got in here because it was aroused by some kerfuffle at Pearl Harbour and from that moment on, that Bear was after Tojo with or without us.  It was lucky coincidence that the interests of the Bear and the Kangaroo were the same at the relevant time. How about a link?

Sure thing.  No worries.

Link.

Aussie wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:26pm:

double plus good wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:20pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:13pm: Quote: and when the japanese came our way who made the big difference?  THE AMERICANS.  why did they not just protect themselves and leave the rest of the planet to the Axis powers??  I submit that the reason they did that will eternally escape you because you are without empathy for anyone. Come on melielongtime.  Let's not re-write the history of WW2 in the Pacific.  The 'sleeping bear' got in here because it was aroused by some kerfuffle at Pearl Harbour and from that moment on, that Bear was after Tojo with or without us.  It was lucky coincidence that the interests of the Bear and the Kangaroo were the same at the relevant time. How about a link? Sure thing.  No worries. Link.

Well done. No link I see. Oh well. I think I'll proceed on to somebody with half a brain.

double plus good wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: double plus good wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:20pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:13pm: Quote: and when the japanese came our way who made the big difference?  THE AMERICANS.  why did they not just protect themselves and leave the rest of the planet to the Axis powers??  I submit that the reason they did that will eternally escape you because you are without empathy for anyone. Come on melielongtime.  Let's not re-write the history of WW2 in the Pacific.  The 'sleeping bear' got in here because it was aroused by some kerfuffle at Pearl Harbour and from that moment on, that Bear was after Tojo with or without us.  It was lucky coincidence that the interests of the Bear and the Kangaroo were the same at the relevant time. How about a link? Sure thing.  No worries. Link. Well done. No link I see. Oh well. I think I'll proceed on to somebody with half a brain.

Bad move.  You'll be outgunned.

Aussie wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:30pm:

double plus good wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:28pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: double plus good wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:20pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:13pm: Quote: and when the japanese came our way who made the big difference?  THE AMERICANS.  why did they not just protect themselves and leave the rest of the planet to the Axis powers??  I submit that the reason they did that will eternally escape you because you are without empathy for anyone. Come on melielongtime.  Let's not re-write the history of WW2 in the Pacific.  The 'sleeping bear' got in here because it was aroused by some kerfuffle at Pearl Harbour and from that moment on, that Bear was after Tojo with or without us.  It was lucky coincidence that the interests of the Bear and the Kangaroo were the same at the relevant time. How about a link? Sure thing.  No worries. Link. Well done. No link I see. Oh well. I think I'll proceed on to somebody with half a brain. Bad move.  You'll be outgunned.

Imagine believing that the states only backed Australia only because of Pearl Harbour. :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ I love your simple world outlook.

double plus good wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:24pm:

ISIS is a humanitarian disaster.

You seem to be arguing with yourself.

double plus good wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:28pm:

Oh well. I think I'll proceed on to somebody with half a brain.

And pool your resources?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTz7kk7CIAAFy5m.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:34pm:

double plus good wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ISIS is a humanitarian disaster. You seem to be arguing with yourself.

I suppose you think we should sit back while a bunch of muslim fanatics slaughter anybody that doesn't have the same mental illness. The same muslim fanatics who would have an old buggerer like you thrown off a building.

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:21pm:

The terrorist scumbags use civilians as shields and this bloke is concerned about civilian casualties, bullshit....Australia should not be involved in a civil war but at least try to be objective before sticking up for these scumbags Greens!!! >:( >:( >:(

I am asking about the bombing of civilians by Australia.
Not nice of you calling civilians and Australians scumbags.

And what's this terrorist crap. It's a civil war.

double plus good wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:34pm: double plus good wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ISIS is a humanitarian disaster. You seem to be arguing with yourself. I suppose you think we should sit back while a bunch of muslim fanatics slaughter anybody that doesn't have the same mental illness. The same muslim fanatics who would have an old buggerer like you thrown off a building.

You mean like what we are doing concerning africa.

Boko Haram Islamist group spreads terror to Niger, killing at least 40

www.christiantoday.com/article/boko.haram.islamist.group.spreads.terror.to.niger.killing.at.least.40/56778.htm

____ wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:38pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:21pm: The terrorist scumbags use civilians as shields and this bloke is concerned about civilian casualties, bullshit....Australia should not be involved in a civil war but at least try to be objective before sticking up for these scumbags Greens!!! >:( >:( >:( I am asking about the bombing of civilians by Australia. Not nice of you calling civilians and Australians scumbags. And what's this terrorist crap. It's a civil war.

Not nice of you calling civilians and Australians terrorists Greens....The OP gives you away mate!!!

::) ::) ::)

____ wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:38pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:21pm: The terrorist scumbags use civilians as shields and this bloke is concerned about civilian casualties, bullshit....Australia should not be involved in a civil war but at least try to be objective before sticking up for these scumbags Greens!!! >:( >:( >:( I am asking about the bombing of civilians by Australia. Not nice of you calling civilians and Australians scumbags. And what's this terrorist crap. It's a civil war.

I agree with you, withdraw the Air Force and troops and let them have at each other. 

The world will lose a few historic sites and irreplaceable archaeology while they do it, but meh.  Nothing like the moral high ground looking on and doing nothing. 

____ wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:40pm:

double plus good wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:34pm: double plus good wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ISIS is a humanitarian disaster. You seem to be arguing with yourself. I suppose you think we should sit back while a bunch of muslim fanatics slaughter anybody that doesn't have the same mental illness. The same muslim fanatics who would have an old buggerer like you thrown off a building. You mean like what we are doing concerning africa. Boko Haram Islamist group spreads terror to Niger, killing at least 40 www.christiantoday.com/article/boko.haram.islamist.group.spreads.terror.to.niger.killing.at.least.40/56778.htm

What about Somalia. America sent marines in to guard the humanitarian effort.

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:42pm:

____ wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:38pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:21pm: The terrorist scumbags use civilians as shields and this bloke is concerned about civilian casualties, bullshit....Australia should not be involved in a civil war but at least try to be objective before sticking up for these scumbags Greens!!! >:( >:( >:( I am asking about the bombing of civilians by Australia. Not nice of you calling civilians and Australians scumbags. And what's this terrorist crap. It's a civil war. Not nice of you calling civilians and Australians terrorists Greens....The OP gives you away mate!!! ::) ::) ::)

The cut and paste of the Doctor's facebook page hours before the abbott mob had it taken down.

double plus good wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:45pm:

____ wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:40pm: double plus good wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:34pm: double plus good wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ISIS is a humanitarian disaster. You seem to be arguing with yourself. I suppose you think we should sit back while a bunch of muslim fanatics slaughter anybody that doesn't have the same mental illness. The same muslim fanatics who would have an old buggerer like you thrown off a building. You mean like what we are doing concerning africa. Boko Haram Islamist group spreads terror to Niger, killing at least 40 www.christiantoday.com/article/boko.haram.islamist.group.spreads.terror.to.niger.killing.at.least.40/56778.htm What about Somalia. America sent marines in to guard the humanitarian effort.

Africa's a little bigger than Somalia.

What of Abbott, aren't the civilians in africa worth bombing?


The whole issue is a patchwork of bullshite and hypocrisy ... and we are on a course to defeat yet again because of this.

Still no one is looking at the reason this whole issue started in the first place ... that's because some western governments, like australia's, doesn't want this solved.

It's a tool for undermining the plebs.

____ wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:52pm:

double plus good wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:45pm: ____ wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:40pm: double plus good wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:34pm: double plus good wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ISIS is a humanitarian disaster. You seem to be arguing with yourself. I suppose you think we should sit back while a bunch of muslim fanatics slaughter anybody that doesn't have the same mental illness. The same muslim fanatics who would have an old buggerer like you thrown off a building. You mean like what we are doing concerning africa. Boko Haram Islamist group spreads terror to Niger, killing at least 40 www.christiantoday.com/article/boko.haram.islamist.group.spreads.terror.to.niger.killing.at.least.40/56778.htm What about Somalia. America sent marines in to guard the humanitarian effort. Africa's a little bigger than Somalia. What of Abbott, aren't the civilians in africa worth bombing? The whole issue is a patchwork of bullshite and hypocrisy ... and we are on a course to defeat yet again because of this. Still no one is looking at the reason this whole issue started in the first place ... that's because some western governments, like australia's, doesn't want this solved. It's a tool for undermining the plebs.

I'm starting to agree with you actually. Stay out of it. Particularly Africa. We agree.

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:44pm:

____ wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:38pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:21pm: The terrorist scumbags use civilians as shields and this bloke is concerned about civilian casualties, bullshit....Australia should not be involved in a civil war but at least try to be objective before sticking up for these scumbags Greens!!! >:( >:( >:( I am asking about the bombing of civilians by Australia. Not nice of you calling civilians and Australians scumbags. And what's this terrorist crap. It's a civil war. I agree with you, withdraw the Air Force and troops and let them have at each other.  The world will lose a few historic sites and irreplaceable archaeology while they do it, but meh.  Nothing like the moral high ground looking on and doing nothing.

That's a ripper.  Australia, in my name, and to keep me safe ought send its professional killers into another Country, kill some locals just to preserve their wallpaper.  Yeas!

Aussie wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 8:16pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:44pm: ____ wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:38pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:21pm: The terrorist scumbags use civilians as shields and this bloke is concerned about civilian casualties, bullshit....Australia should not be involved in a civil war but at least try to be objective before sticking up for these scumbags Greens!!! >:( >:( >:( I am asking about the bombing of civilians by Australia. Not nice of you calling civilians and Australians scumbags. And what's this terrorist crap. It's a civil war. I agree with you, withdraw the Air Force and troops and let them have at each other.  The world will lose a few historic sites and irreplaceable archaeology while they do it, but meh.  Nothing like the moral high ground looking on and doing nothing.  That's a ripper.  Australia, in my name, and to keep me safe ought send its professional killers into another Country, kill some locals just to preserve their wallpaper.  Yeas!

Who is that directed at? 

Anyone who reckons we ought send our professional killers to preserve the wallpaper used by the locals in some other Country.

Aussie wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 8:35pm:

Anyone who reckons we ought send our professional killers to preserve the wallpaper used by the locals in some other Country.

What about preserving the locals?

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 8:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 8:35pm: Anyone who reckons we ought send our professional killers to preserve the wallpaper used by the locals in some other Country. What about preserving the locals?

Nah, none of my business. 

etc etc etc.

____ wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 7:38pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:21pm: The terrorist scumbags use civilians as shields and this bloke is concerned about civilian casualties, bullshit....Australia should not be involved in a civil war but at least try to be objective before sticking up for these scumbags Greens!!! >:( >:( >:( I am asking about the bombing of civilians by Australia. Not nice of you calling civilians and Australians scumbags. And what's this terrorist crap. It's a civil war.

So far you haven't shown we've bombed any civilians or that there have been civilian casualties due to collateral damage.
:D :D :D :D :D ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Grendel wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 10:15pm:

____ wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:38pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:21pm: The terrorist scumbags use civilians as shields and this bloke is concerned about civilian casualties, bullshit....Australia should not be involved in a civil war but at least try to be objective before sticking up for these scumbags Greens!!! >:( >:( >:( I am asking about the bombing of civilians by Australia. Not nice of you calling civilians and Australians scumbags. And what's this terrorist crap. It's a civil war. So far you haven't shown we've bombed any civilians or that there have been civilian casualties due to collateral damage. :D :D :D :D :D ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Australians are dropping bombs on populations ... are the bombs specially designed to avoid civilians in those populations?

Grendel wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2015 at 10:15pm:

So far you haven't shown we've bombed any civilians or that there have been civilian casualties due to collateral damage.

US airstrikes civilians killed

32 in one month

The Syrian Organization for Human Rights said in October that 32 civilians had been killed following the first month of coalition air strikes in Syria


(page 2 of this very thread)

On D day hundreds of French civilians were accidentally killed during the invasion, if only they left Adolph Hitler alone to rule Europe those civilians could have been saved.

____ wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2015 at 7:10am:

Australians are dropping bombs on populations ... are the bombs specially designed to avoid civilians in those populations?

The less civilian survival, the less people seeking refuge and asylum.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2015 at 8:52am:

____ wrote on Jun 23rd, 2015 at 7:10am: Australians are dropping bombs on populations ... are the bombs specially designed to avoid civilians in those populations? The less civilian survival, the less people seeking refuge and asylum.

Sounds like a plan.

____ wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2015 at 7:10am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 10:15pm: ____ wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:38pm: philperth2010 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 7:21pm: The terrorist scumbags use civilians as shields and this bloke is concerned about civilian casualties, bullshit....Australia should not be involved in a civil war but at least try to be objective before sticking up for these scumbags Greens!!! >:( >:( >:( I am asking about the bombing of civilians by Australia. Not nice of you calling civilians and Australians scumbags. And what's this terrorist crap. It's a civil war. So far you haven't shown we've bombed any civilians or that there have been civilian casualties due to collateral damage. :D :D :D :D :D ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Australians are dropping bombs on populations ... are the bombs specially designed to avoid civilians in those populations?

Actually they are droping bombs on Targets, MILITARY TARGETS, ISIL TARGETS, you seem to have forgotten that in their first 5 missions, it was widely reported that the Australian RAAF refused to drop bombs because they felt it was unsafe to do so regards the civilian population.  Nothing in their value system or rules of engagement have changed.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2015 at 7:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 10:15pm: So far you haven't shown we've bombed any civilians or that there have been civilian casualties due to collateral damage. US airstrikes civilians killed 32 in one month The Syrian Organization for Human Rights said in October that 32 civilians had been killed following the first month of coalition air strikes in Syria (page 2 of this very thread)

SO PANSI SUDDENLY WE ARE AMERICANS EH?
:D :D :D :D :D
You have just proven you have no credibility.
Yet again.
If I was you I'd leave that "crown" to Greenswine.

This is the difference between Americans and Australians...  and as reported recently, we are still sticking to the same rules of engagement today.


Quote:

Our pilots refused to bomb 40 times By Frank Walker March 14, 2004 Australia's F/A-18 pilots defied the orders of American commanders and refused to drop their bombs on up to 40 missions during the invasion of Iraq, it can now be revealed. In a remarkable account of how our airmen applied Australian rules of engagement, an RAAF pilot has told The Sun-Herald each of the 14 RAAF Hornet pilots aborted three to four bombing runs because intelligence given at pre-flight briefings did not concur with what they found at the target.

 


Quote:

But Australia's Defence Force chief, General Peter Cosgrove backed the pilots' action, and said there were no recriminations. Squadron Leader Daryl Pudney last week described how he and other Australian F/A-18 pilots were forced to weigh up the risk of civilian casualties in a split second before dropping their bombs.

Quote:

He said pilots broke off many missions after they saw the target and decided there was not a valid military reason to drop their bombs.

Quote:

But it appears there were fundamental differences between the US dominated headquarters and Australian pilots over what constituted a valid military target. Squadron Leader Pudney said under Australia's rules of engagement pilots had to ask themselves on each mission whether it was right to drop their bombs. "Each guy would have made that decision once to half a dozen times in the conflict. It was presented as being just one pilot in one incident, but it was all of us several times," he said. "We were providing an identification of targets in conjunction with ground forces, and if we were not 100 per cent sure we were taking out a valid military target in accordance with our specifications we just did not drop."

Quote:

Squadron Leader Pudney said he could not comment on the reasons they aborted specific missions. But it seems that it was often to avoid the unnecessary killing of civilians. "As we approached the target area we confirmed we had the right place. Then we'd run a check provided through our training that we were doing the right thing by our rules of engagement.

Quote:

Squadron Leader Pudney said he did not believe the US Air Force was more trigger happy, but they operated under different laws of engagement.

Quote:

First Australian air strike in Iraq bombs Isis target, says ADF The Australian government last week formally approved the deployment of Super Hornets to Iraq to take part in US-led air strikes against Isis targets. The confirmation of the first strikes on Thursday came a day after defence officials said RAAF aircraft had carried out three missions but had not fired on any targets. In one case, Australian Super Hornets pulled out of an air strike on an Isis target when the risk of killing civilians became too high, defence officials said at a media briefing on Wednesday.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2015 at 7:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 10:15pm: So far you haven't shown we've bombed any civilians or that there have been civilian casualties due to collateral damage. US airstrikes civilians killed 32 in one month The Syrian Organization for Human Rights said in October that 32 civilians had been killed following the first month of coalition air strikes in Syria (page 2 of this very thread)

You seem to have a great difficulty in recognising which country we live in.  we live in AUSTRALIA not the US.

and you might get more credibility if you also listed the numbers of civilians killed by ISIS along with the number of women and children raped and murdered.

But you wont.

Isnt it amazing how they defend the right if ISIS to bomb, murder and rape civilians but get on their high horse over western powers doing the same.

Grendel wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2015 at 2:09pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 23rd, 2015 at 7:47am: Grendel wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 10:15pm: So far you haven't shown we've bombed any civilians or that there have been civilian casualties due to collateral damage. US airstrikes civilians killed 32 in one month The Syrian Organization for Human Rights said in October that 32 civilians had been killed following the first month of coalition air strikes in Syria (page 2 of this very thread) SO PANSI SUDDENLY WE ARE AMERICANS EH? :D :D :D :D :D

Er, yes. We're allied with them.

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2015 at 4:50pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 23rd, 2015 at 2:09pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 23rd, 2015 at 7:47am: Grendel wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 10:15pm: So far you haven't shown we've bombed any civilians or that there have been civilian casualties due to collateral damage. US airstrikes civilians killed 32 in one month The Syrian Organization for Human Rights said in October that 32 civilians had been killed following the first month of coalition air strikes in Syria (page 2 of this very thread) SO PANSI SUDDENLY WE ARE AMERICANS EH? :D :D :D :D :D Er, yes. We're allied with them.

So what. Your boy fought with The Free Syrian Army and they are allied with ISIS. But they aint the same right?

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2015 at 4:50pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 23rd, 2015 at 2:09pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 23rd, 2015 at 7:47am: Grendel wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 10:15pm: So far you haven't shown we've bombed any civilians or that there have been civilian casualties due to collateral damage. US airstrikes civilians killed 32 in one month The Syrian Organization for Human Rights said in October that 32 civilians had been killed following the first month of coalition air strikes in Syria (page 2 of this very thread) SO PANSI SUDDENLY WE ARE AMERICANS EH? :D :D :D :D :D Er, yes. We're allied with them.

Well I'm sorry Troll that you can't be bothered reading information people post that explains things very clearly.
Stop wasting my time with your ignorant trolling.

The coalition of the willing.

We, Australia are partners with America in this war duh!


US airstrikes civilians killed

32 in one month

The Syrian Organization for Human Rights said in October that 32 civilians had been killed following the first month of coalition air strikes in Syria

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2015 at 5:30pm:

____ wrote on Jun 21st, 2015 at 12:37pm: Response to AHPRA number 2. Dear AHPRA, 1. I have no concern if you cancel my registration 2. I have no concern if you cancel my passport 3. I knew where I was coming 4. I intend to stay here 5. I anticipated an arrest warrant, hence why I left in secret 6. None of the case you put forward has indicated to me a malicious character on my behalf and it is this injustice within the Australian judicial system that was a catalyst for me to leave. Do as you please, I no longer consider myself an Australian, The continuous bombing of civillian targets here by the coalition has done nothing but dissapoint me of the country I once loved so much regards Tareq Kamleh www.facebook.com/tareq.kamleh.7 How many civilians dead are the abbott mob complicit of? With that name I am not sure he had much Australian family history anyway. He can leave as quick as he came. Never understood who some immigrants think they are to dictate to locals.

Infamous Australian ISIS propagandist ‘Dr Jihad’ found alive in an Iraqi prison
The notorious Perth-born pediatrician and Islamic State operative Tareq Kamleh is alive in an Iraqi prison, one of 13 Australian men hoping to be released and returned home


One of the nation’s most infamous Islamic State fighters, the Perth-born pediatrician dubbed “Dr Jihad” widely presumed to have been killed in Syria nearly a ­decade ago, is alive, imprisoned in an Iraqi jail and one of 13 ­Australian men linked to the terror group hoping to be released and returned home.

Only weeks after the controversial return of 10 ISIS brides and their children from Syria, the Labor government is understood to be aware that Tareq Kamleh, the former Adelaide playboy-turned-ISIS saviour, is locked inside a high-security Baghdad prison, undergoing interrogation by the country’s elite counter-­terrorism judiciary.

Kamleh’s survival is detailed in court documents, seen by The Australian, which show the 41-year-old did not perish in the final bloody siege of Raqqa in 2017 as his family and authorities believed.