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Message started by Ajax on May 29th, 2015 at 10:14pm

Title: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by Ajax on May 29th, 2015 at 10:14pm

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The uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story, writes Christopher Booker.

Christopher Booker
6:25PM GMT 28 Mar 2009

If one thing more than any other is used to justify proposals that the world must spend tens of trillions of dollars on combating global warming, it is the belief that we face a disastrous rise in sea levels. The Antarctic and Greenland ice caps will melt, we are told, warming oceans will expand, and the result will be catastrophe.

Although the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) only predicts a sea level rise of 59cm (17 inches) by 2100, Al Gore in his Oscar-winning film An Inconvenient Truth went much further, talking of 20 feet, and showing computer graphics of cities such as Shanghai and San Francisco half under water. We all know the graphic showing central London in similar plight. As for tiny island nations such as the Maldives and Tuvalu, as Prince Charles likes to tell us and the Archbishop of Canterbury was again parroting last week, they are due to vanish.

But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

Despite fluctuations down as well as up, "the sea is not rising," he says. "It hasn't risen in 50 years." If there is any rise this century it will "not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm". And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by
Al Gore and Co could not possibly come about.


www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of-sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html



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Compelling reading here.

Interview with Dr.Nils-Axel Morner - this guy wrote the laws about tides.


www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerinterview.pdf

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by Ajax on May 29th, 2015 at 10:22pm
LOL The good doctor was using a very famous landmark some tree on a prison island in the Maldives to prove his point that sea level are not rising and then in his own words ?????



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There came an Australian sea-level team, which was for the IPCC and against me. Then the students pulled down the tree by hand! They destroyed the evidence. What kind of people are those?”



Well good doctor i can answer that one LOL they more than likely would have been homosexual communists that go under the banner of the GREENS. LOL

He goes on to say




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They call themselves scientists, and they’re destroying evidence! A scientist should always be open for reinterpretation, but you can never destroy evidence. And they were being watched, thinking they were clever.”



A scientists should always be open for reinterpretation crickeys try telling that to the IPCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

The global warming alarmists have even gone as far as calling scientists who disagree with the global warming religion terrorists!

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by innocentbystander. on May 30th, 2015 at 6:13pm
My personal favourite is when they claim land subsidence as sea level rise  ;D

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by Chimp_Logic on May 30th, 2015 at 6:41pm

innocentbystander. wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
My personal favourite is when they claim land subsidence as sea level rise  ;D


that's your favourite is it innocentmaggot?

Then you will love this from your master. Do you remember the name of the Rio Tinto CEO who said this little gem of wisdom?

".....the Earth's resources are not finite"

I am sure the freak maggot puppet and Dr Sircus disciple would revel in such wise words ladies and gentlemen

There can be no higher form of ignorance and its insane immoral equivalence than to declare oneself, in public, an AGW denialist crack pot. These freak maggots are very special breeds of deranged fascist corporate lunatics ladies and gentlemen

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by rabbitoh08 on May 30th, 2015 at 8:14pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 6:41pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
My personal favourite is when they claim land subsidence as sea level rise  ;D


that's your favourite is it innocentmaggot?

Then you will love this from your master. Do you remember the name of the Rio Tinto CEO who said this little gem of wisdom?

".....the Earth's resources are not finite"

I am sure the freak maggot puppet and Dr Sircus disciple would revel in such wise words ladies and gentlemen

There can be no higher form of ignorance and its insane immoral equivalence than to declare oneself, in public, an AGW denialist crack pot. These freak maggots are very special breeds of deranged fascist corporate lunatics ladies and gentlemen

don't feed the troll

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by innocentbystander. on May 30th, 2015 at 9:33pm
I think you two might suffer from a bit of cranium subsidence  ;D

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by Chimp_Logic on May 30th, 2015 at 10:39pm

innocentbystander. wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 9:33pm:
I think you two might suffer from a bit of cranium subsidence  ;D


that caustic remark was totally uncalled for

I think you should make a sincere and formal apology

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by Ajax on May 31st, 2015 at 9:46am
Got nothing to say about sea levels rising being the biggest bunch of cr@p ever...!!!

All you got is name calling and personal insults.

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by copperinternetISARORT on Jun 1st, 2015 at 1:19pm

rabbitoh08 wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 8:14pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 6:41pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
My personal favourite is when they claim land subsidence as sea level rise  ;D


that's your favourite is it innocentmaggot?

Then you will love this from your master. Do you remember the name of the Rio Tinto CEO who said this little gem of wisdom?

".....the Earth's resources are not finite"

I am sure the freak maggot puppet and Dr Sircus disciple would revel in such wise words ladies and gentlemen

There can be no higher form of ignorance and its insane immoral equivalence than to declare oneself, in public, an AGW denialist crack pot. These freak maggots are very special breeds of deranged fascist corporate lunatics ladies and gentlemen

don't feed the troll

are you trying to kill the internet  8-) 8-)

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by copperinternetISARORT on Jun 1st, 2015 at 1:28pm

Ajax wrote on May 29th, 2015 at 10:14pm:

Quote:
The uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story, writes Christopher Booker.

Christopher Booker
6:25PM GMT 28 Mar 2009

If one thing more than any other is used to justify proposals that the world must spend tens of trillions of dollars on combating global warming, it is the belief that we face a disastrous rise in sea levels. The Antarctic and Greenland ice caps will melt, we are told, warming oceans will expand, and the result will be catastrophe.

Although the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) only predicts a sea level rise of 59cm (17 inches) by 2100, Al Gore in his Oscar-winning film An Inconvenient Truth went much further, talking of 20 feet, and showing computer graphics of cities such as Shanghai and San Francisco half under water. We all know the graphic showing central London in similar plight. As for tiny island nations such as the Maldives and Tuvalu, as Prince Charles likes to tell us and the Archbishop of Canterbury was again parroting last week, they are due to vanish.

But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

Despite fluctuations down as well as up, "the sea is not rising," he says. "It hasn't risen in 50 years." If there is any rise this century it will "not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm". And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by
Al Gore and Co could not possibly come about.


www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of-sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html


[quote]Compelling reading here.

Interview with Dr.Nils-Axel Morner - this guy wrote the laws about tides.


www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerinterview.pdf
[/quote]


weird photo

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by Ajax on Jun 7th, 2015 at 11:19am


That's the tree those homosexual greens working for the IPCC pulled out of the ground.

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by John_Taverner on Jun 7th, 2015 at 7:08pm

Ajax wrote on May 29th, 2015 at 10:22pm:
LOL The good doctor was using a very famous landmark some tree on a prison island in the Maldives to prove his point that sea level are not rising and then in his own words ?????


- and being ignorant, you can't see the fallacy in using a single point on the globe as evidence for a global phenomenon.




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Nelson's "find" is a man some of us found years ago and have seen as a source of wild entertainment ever since. He's called Nils-Axel Mörner, and among his claims to fame are that he possesses paranormal abilities to find water and metal using a dowsing rod, and that he has discovered "the Hong Kong of the [ancient] Greeks" in Sweden.

The celebrated debunker of cobblers James Randi challenged Mörner to demonstrate his expertise with a dowsing rod, but he "consistently refused to be tested". He did however, allow his paranormal abilities to be examined on Swedish television, using a test that Mörner himself devised: dowsing for a packet of sugar concealed under one of 10 cups. Needless to say, he failed, blaming, as such people so often do, "interference" and "influences".


Where do you find all these nuts? He travelled to this place in the Maldives, and not only did he just measure a single fixed "tidal gauge" (ok tree) he actually used the wrong tree for his measurements.  ;D

He's a good "mate" of Monckton's too. (Not that there is anything wrong with that)

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by John_Taverner on Jun 7th, 2015 at 7:25pm
Ajax, This is a world map showing Glacial Isostatic Adjustment (GIA).

Some parts of the world's landmasses are rising, while others are falling. (Superimpose on that an increase in Ocean level.)

Can you find the Maldives on that map?

That's right. It corresponds to an area of very little isostatic adjustment. Do you know how much isostatic rebound and other local effects can vary on a local scale?



Be ashamed.

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by Ajax on Jun 8th, 2015 at 10:17am

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 7th, 2015 at 7:25pm:
Ajax, This is a world map showing Glacial Isostatic Adjustment (GIA).

Some parts of the world's landmasses are rising, while others are falling. (Superimpose on that an increase in Ocean level.)

Can you find the Maldives on that map?

That's right. It corresponds to an area of very little isostatic adjustment. Do you know how much isostatic rebound and other local effects can vary on a local scale?



Be ashamed.


Johno according to your mod's predictions the Maldives should be in 2015 underwater, especially that tree those homosexual greens from the IPCC knocked over.

Unfortunately for you that is not that case......!!!!!!

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by John_Taverner on Jun 8th, 2015 at 10:30am
Who is my mod?  I'm not aware of any predictions about the Maldives in 2015.

Are you saying that all IPCC contributing Scientists are homosexuals?   ;D ;D

This beats them all.

Are you a moon landing denier too by any chance?  ;D

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by Ajax on Jun 8th, 2015 at 10:42am

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 10:30am:
Who is my mod?  I'm not aware of any predictions about the Maldives in 2015.


Quite true Johno according to your mob they (the Maldives) should now be underwater in 2015.


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Are you saying that all IPCC contributing Scientists are homosexuals?   ;D ;D


I said that it was those homosexual greens working for the IPCC......interpret as you like.....!!!!


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This beats them all.


What its impossible for scientists to be gay.....???????
hhhmmmnnnn....doubt that.....????


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Are you a moon landing denier too by any chance?  ;D


Moonlanding....I was watching Dagwood & Blonde when my show got interrupted with some clowns bouncing around over at area 51 claiming to be on the moon.

There space craft squeaky clean like it had been mister sheen cleaned it, flags waving in the wind, men bouncing around in half slow mo, all quite boring.

I was clad to get back to dagwood & blondie.

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by John_Taverner on Jun 8th, 2015 at 10:58am

Ajax wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 10:42am:
Moonlanding....I was watching Dagwood & Blonde when my show got interrupted with some clowns bouncing around over at area 51 claiming to be on the moon.

There space craft squeaky clean like it had been mister sheen cleaned it, flags waving in the wind, men bouncing around in half slow mo, all quite boring.

I was clad to get back to dagwood & blondie.


You are a moon landing conspiracy nut!   :o

That was just a stab in the dark

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by Ajax on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:01am

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 10:58am:

Ajax wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 10:42am:
Moonlanding....I was watching Dagwood & Blonde when my show got interrupted with some clowns bouncing around over at area 51 claiming to be on the moon.

There space craft squeaky clean like it had been mister sheen cleaned it, flags waving in the wind, men bouncing around in half slow mo, all quite boring.

I was clad to get back to dagwood & blondie.


You are a moon landing conspiracy nut!   :o

That was just a stab in the dark


I also believe that the twin towers came down because of control demolition.... 8-)

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by John_Taverner on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:03am

Ajax wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:01am:
I also believe that the twin towers came down because of control demolition.... 8-)


ok. That's nice.  I think I'm wasting my time here.

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by Ajax on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:04am

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:03am:

Ajax wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:01am:
I also believe that the twin towers came down because of control demolition.... 8-)


ok. That's nice.  I think I'm wasting my time here.


Good get lost.... >:( 8-)

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by John_Taverner on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:10am
What about vaccinations? Are you against vaccinations too?

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by Ajax on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:12am

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:10am:
What about vaccinations? Are you against vaccinations too?


I don't get vaccinated for flue if that's what your on about.

But I have for most of the major viruses.

What are you trying to prove Johno.......?????

Ok i'll ask you a question......?

Are you a homosexual..........?

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by copperinternetISARORT on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:51am

Ajax wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:01am:

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 10:58am:

Ajax wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 10:42am:
Moonlanding....I was watching Dagwood & Blonde when my show got interrupted with some clowns bouncing around over at area 51 claiming to be on the moon.

There space craft squeaky clean like it had been mister sheen cleaned it, flags waving in the wind, men bouncing around in half slow mo, all quite boring.

I was clad to get back to dagwood & blondie.


You are a moon landing conspiracy nut!   :o

That was just a stab in the dark


I also believe that the twin towers came down because of control demolition.... 8-)

yet duplicitously sew all this together by actually believing we are going to mine moon-rock to stop climate change by turning to nuclear fusion  ;D ;D

Yeh, we all know how the boring crack party conversation works  ::) ::) ::)

(If complex systems don't exist then how does a mobile phone work btw  :) :))

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by John_Taverner on Jun 8th, 2015 at 12:41pm

Ajax wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:12am:

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:10am:
What about vaccinations? Are you against vaccinations too?


I don't get vaccinated for flue if that's what your on about.

But I have for most of the major viruses.

What are you trying to prove Johno.......?????

Ok i'll ask you a question......?

Are you a homosexual..........?


No. I'm happily married with grown-up kids.  So if you're looking for a gay marriage partner, you will have to look elsewhere.

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by Ajax on Jun 8th, 2015 at 12:46pm

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 12:41pm:

Ajax wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:12am:

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 11:10am:
What about vaccinations? Are you against vaccinations too?


I don't get vaccinated for flue if that's what your on about.

But I have for most of the major viruses.

What are you trying to prove Johno.......?????

Ok i'll ask you a question......?

Are you a homosexual..........?


No. I'm happily married with grown-up kids.  So if you're looking for a gay marriage partner, you will have to look elsewhere.


Glad to hear that Johno.......!!!!

As am I..... 8-) ;) :)

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by copperinternetISARORT on Jun 8th, 2015 at 12:55pm
Let us all change subject and do a circle jerk about circle jerks... meanwhile fossil fuels get to keeping making bazillions for the planet accountants of the world who all had kids for no reason other than to continue the hate  ::)

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by John_Taverner on Jun 8th, 2015 at 2:42pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 12:55pm:
Let us all change subject and do a circle jerk about circle jerks... meanwhile fossil fuels get to keeping making bazillions for the planet accountants of the world who all had kids for no reason other than to continue the hate  ::)


That about sums it up, but where do you start when you're dealing with a multiple conspiracy theory nut? Maybe you don't. He just dug a hole for himself.

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by copperinternetISARORT on Jun 8th, 2015 at 3:11pm

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 2:42pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 12:55pm:
Let us all change subject and do a circle jerk about circle jerks... meanwhile fossil fuels get to keeping making bazillions for the planet accountants of the world who all had kids for no reason other than to continue the hate  ::)


That about sums it up, but where do you start when you're dealing with a multiple conspiracy theory nut? Maybe you don't. He just dug a hole for himself.

before everyone goes home(during the long and boringly extended come-down period) they always say: "..we're going to the moon to mine the moonrock anyway fella so the worlds going to fusion technology to solve climate change anyway ya know so ya know whatever you know my dad said so and...ya know..!" it just never stops ...! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

::) ::)

We all know the conversation: and we call this the clever country and everyknows we have just invested in  copper internet after we built the asian century  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

...i mean  :o :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

** Yeh, go the John Howard anthology along with the Tony Howard anthology not to mention the Bjorn Lomborg anthology associatied with it all  ::) ::) (Without mining Australia stops etc...)  8-)

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by copperinternetISARORT on Jun 8th, 2015 at 3:11pm

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 2:42pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 12:55pm:
Let us all change subject and do a circle jerk about circle jerks... meanwhile fossil fuels get to keeping making bazillions for the planet accountants of the world who all had kids for no reason other than to continue the hate  ::)


That about sums it up, but where do you start when you're dealing with a multiple conspiracy theory nut? Maybe you don't. He just dug a hole for himself.

before everyone goes home(during the long and boringly extended come-down period) they always say: "..we're going to the moon to mine the moonrock anyway fella so the worlds going to fusion technology to solve climate change anyway ya know so ya know whatever you know my dad said so and...ya know..!" it just never stops ...! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

::) ::)

We all know the conversation: and we call this the clever country and everyknows we have just invested in  copper internet after we built the asian century  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

...i mean  :o :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

** Yeh, go the John Howard anthology along with the Tony Howard anthology not to mention the Bjorn Howard anthology associated with it all  ::) ::) (Without mining Australia stops etc...)  8-)

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by Ajax on Jun 13th, 2015 at 2:35pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 3:11pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 2:42pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 12:55pm:
Let us all change subject and do a circle jerk about circle jerks... meanwhile fossil fuels get to keeping making bazillions for the planet accountants of the world who all had kids for no reason other than to continue the hate  ::)


That about sums it up, but where do you start when you're dealing with a multiple conspiracy theory nut? Maybe you don't. He just dug a hole for himself.

before everyone goes home(during the long and boringly extended come-down period) they always say: "..we're going to the moon to mine the moonrock anyway fella so the worlds going to fusion technology to solve climate change anyway ya know so ya know whatever you know my dad said so and...ya know..!" it just never stops ...! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

::) ::)

We all know the conversation: and we call this the clever country and everyknows we have just invested in  copper internet after we built the asian century  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

...i mean  :o :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

** Yeh, go the John Howard anthology along with the Tony Howard anthology not to mention the Bjorn Howard anthology associated with it all  ::) ::) (Without mining Australia stops etc...)  8-)


Don't feed this troll


Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by copperinternetISARORT on Jun 16th, 2015 at 10:23pm
lol, lee hates kids so much he voted for copper internet and still insists everyone else is a troll !!

Title: Re: Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
Post by Ajax on Jun 20th, 2015 at 10:36am
I go down to the coast on a regular basis.

I haven't seen an increase in sea levels.

Yet according to the IPCC computer models the Maldives should be under water right now, that means we should have noticed something on our shores...!!!

Don't worry ladies and gentlemen all these predictions and forecasts are from the IPCC climate model computers.

Reality is as the good doctor says in the OP.

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