The Indian GDP per capita is around $1600 while China's is around $7500.

It is rather amazing how India a capitalist and democratic nation has languished while China, a communist and autocratic nation has prospered.

India appears unable to solve its own problems which are exacerbated by the population growth.

Currently a heat wave is burning India and causing power shortage. It would seem rational that India should be maximising the potential of solar energy in such circumstances, however the leaders don't get the message.

India lacks visionary leaders and in the absence of such leadership will never emerge from its present impoverished state.

Indian leaders just don't get it.

Svengali wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:42pm:

The Indian GDP per capita is around $1600 while China's is around $7500. It is rather amazing how India a capitalist and democratic nation has languished while China, a communist and autocratic nation has prospered. India appears unable to solve its own problems which are exacerbated by the population growth. Currently a heat wave is burning India and causing power shortage. It would seem rational that India should be maximising the potential of solar energy in such circumstances, however the leaders don't get the message. India lacks visionary leaders and in the absence of such leadership will never emerge from its present impoverished state. Indian leaders just don't get it.

2 over populated crap holes heading for oblivion...as Spazgali celebrates  ::)

China’s water resources are overallocated, inefficiently used, and grossly polluted by
human and industrial wastes, to the point that vast stretches of rivers are dead and
dying, lakes are cesspools of waste, groundwater aquifers are over-pumped and unsustainably
consumed, uncounted species of aquatic life have been driven to extinction,
and direct adverse impacts on both human and ecosystem health are widespread and
growing. Figure 5.1 shows the major rivers of China. Of the 20 most seriously polluted
cities in the world, 16 are in China. The major watersheds of the country all suffer
severe pollution. Three hundred million people lack access to safe drinking water.
Desertification, worsened by excessive withdrawals of surface and groundwater, is
growing in northern China (Feng 2007).

Hooray Spazgali, hooray!! ::)


Addressing China’s crippling water problems is hampered by the efforts of local governments
to protect local industries and jobs, government corruption, the desire to
sustain rapid economic growth, and what has been described as the “crippling
weakness” of the leading national environmental regulatory body, the State Environmental
Protection Administration

Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food.
Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries.

Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold.

The sad truth about India is that for decades their best brains have been migrating to the Anglo-Sphere because of better pay rates and promotional opportunities.

Every bright Indian who the West accepts as a migrant is an exercise in stripping India of its best assets.

It's a process of denuding the Indian subcontinent of its richest resource ~ their best brains.

I tried to mount a Ghandi-like sitdown strike in the road outside of Sydney Airport's immigration terminal - but an Indian taxi driver nearly ran me over ...  and so I'll have to go to Plan B.

The indian culture is too rude for it's own good: it's a product of too big a population however so it's not an easy solution.

I think you'll find solar power is the exact solution they don't want to offer their people as whilst it will provide for the people it won't provide for the separation of rich and poor which is what the powerful are going to try and maintain.

Their hand will be forced to make it look as if they are spreading the wealth when it becomes apparent their neighbours are climbing out of poverty... revolution is always around the corner.

____ wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 1:28pm:

Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. .

Yes nothing to do with over population, over use, pollution – its all AGW’s fault!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 1:49pm:

____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. . Yes nothing to do with over population, over use, pollution – its all AGW’s fault!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Human caused climate change ... notice the first word


------------> Human <----------







.

____ wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 2:11pm:

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:49pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. . Yes nothing to do with over population, over use, pollution – its all AGW’s fault!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Human caused climate change ... notice the first word ------------> Human <---------- .

Well when you’re so obtuse and give the one reason for China’s water supply as “AGW did it” expect flack, especially after all the excepts posted. This is not global warming, this is localised environmental degradation.

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 2:22pm:

____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:11pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:49pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. . Yes nothing to do with over population, over use, pollution – its all AGW’s fault!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Human caused climate change ... notice the first word ------------> Human <---------- . Well when you’re so obtuse and give the one reason for China’s water supply as “AGW did it” expect flack, especially after all the excepts posted. This is not global warming, this is localised environmental degradation.

Just because you were shown up, don't get your knickers in a twist. Just relax and go with the flow. The flow of being wrong.

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 2:22pm:

____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:11pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:49pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. . Yes nothing to do with over population, over use, pollution – its all AGW’s fault!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Human caused climate change ... notice the first word ------------> Human <---------- . Well when you’re so obtuse and give the one reason for China’s water supply as “AGW did it” expect flack, especially after all the excepts posted. This is not global warming, this is localised environmental degradation.

Their monsoon is one of the most depended upon weather events on earth: if AGW is responsible for affecting that you have potential for very great political upheaval!

____ wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 2:28pm:

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:22pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:11pm: HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:49pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. . Yes nothing to do with over population, over use, pollution – its all AGW’s fault!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Human caused climate change ... notice the first word ------------> Human <---------- . Well when you’re so obtuse and give the one reason for China’s water supply as “AGW did it” expect flack, especially after all the excepts posted. This is not global warming, this is localised environmental degradation. Just because you were shown up, don't get your knickers in a twist. Just relax and go with the flow. The flow of being wrong.

China’s water resources are overallocated, inefficiently used, and grossly polluted by
human and industrial wastes, to the point that vast stretches of rivers are dead and
dying, lakes are cesspools of waste, groundwater aquifers are over-pumped and unsustainably
consumed, uncounted species of aquatic life have been driven to extinction,
and direct adverse impacts on both human and ecosystem health are widespread and
growing. Figure 5.1 shows the major rivers of China. Of the 20 most seriously polluted
cities in the world, 16 are in China. The major watersheds of the country all suffer
severe pollution. Three hundred million people lack access to safe drinking water.
Desertification, worsened by excessive withdrawals of surface and groundwater, is
growing in northern China (Feng 2007).

I think I see the problem, your brains are in your arse, and well then you get buggered and well you know the rest….

A study by the China's Ministry of Water Resources found that approximately 55% of China's 50,000 rivers that existed in the 1990s have ... disappeared.

According to Jiang Liping, senior irrigation specialist at the World Bank in Beijing, China is over-exploiting its groundwater by 22 billion cubic meters a year


Amazing figure!!! All put down to overuse…. :o

____ wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 1:28pm:

Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold.

Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well.

China's water efficiency is another problem. Industry in China continues to expand and compared to other countries, is highly inefficient. Liping said, "water use efficiency and water productivity in both industry and agriculture are very low."



Don’t the spazos on here keep telling us to look to China for great environmental practice?

Spazos….lol  ;D

Another challenge China faces is logistics. More than 60% of China's water is in the southern part of the country, but most of the usage is in the north and coastlines.

As Debra Tan, Head of China Water Risk, a Hong Kong-based non-profit explains, "45% of China's GDP is derived from water-scarce provinces. It is not easy to grow your economy with limited water and geographical issues beyond your control."

Beijing and other northern cities get most of their water from underground aquifers. Over the last five decades, China has had to drill increasingly deeper to gain access to water.

According to research from author Lester Brown, key aquifers are declining by as much as 3 metres / 10 feet per year. This increases drilling expenses and energy usage and has also lead to an increase in arsenic poisoning.

An August, 2013 study published in the journal Science, found that as many as 20 million people in China may be affected by arsenic-contaminated groundwater. Testing for contaminated wells, however, is resource- and time-intensive given China's geographic size.

SCAPEGOAT ALERT (even after all the evidence to the contrary, they throw up climate change)A study by Shourong Wang and Zuqiang Zhang concluded that climate change is compounding the problem. The authors found that China's average temperature rose by 1.1°C from 1908 to 2007. They expect that from 2000, the annual mean air temperature in China will rise by 1.3 to 2.1°C by 2020 and 2.3 to 3.3°C by 2050.

According to China Daily, Chen Lei, Minister of Water Resources, said, "global climate change could further exacerbate existing problems over water security, water supply and farming irrigation."

Another problem is that China's primary energy source is coal. Coal production is a water-intensive process and also has other ecological side effects, which further pollute China's water supply.

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 2:49pm:

A study by the China's Ministry of Water Resources found that approximately 55% of China's 50,000 rivers that existed in the 1990s have ... disappeared. According to Jiang Liping, senior irrigation specialist at the World Bank in Beijing, China is over-exploiting its groundwater by 22 billion cubic meters a year Amazing figure!!! All put down to overuse…. :o

One might say they acknlowledged the problem a long time ago and implemented one child policy for good reason  :o :o

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 2:54pm:

____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well.

glaciers are compacted snow

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 2:55pm:

China's water efficiency is another problem. Industry in China continues to expand and compared to other countries, is highly inefficient. Liping said, "water use efficiency and water productivity in both industry and agriculture are very low." Don’t the spazos on here keep telling us to look to China for great environmental practice? Spazos….lol  ;D

who said that?

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 3:27pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:54pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well. glaciers are compacted snow

And snow fields are not glaciers

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 3:00pm:

Another challenge China faces is logistics. More than 60% of China's water is in the southern part of the country, but most of the usage is in the north and coastlines. As Debra Tan, Head of China Water Risk, a Hong Kong-based non-profit explains, "45% of China's GDP is derived from water-scarce provinces. It is not easy to grow your economy with limited water and geographical issues beyond your control." Beijing and other northern cities get most of their water from underground aquifers. Over the last five decades, China has had to drill increasingly deeper to gain access to water. According to research from author Lester Brown, key aquifers are declining by as much as 3 metres / 10 feet per year. This increases drilling expenses and energy usage and has also lead to an increase in arsenic poisoning. An August, 2013 study published in the journal Science, found that as many as 20 million people in China may be affected by arsenic-contaminated groundwater. Testing for contaminated wells, however, is resource- and time-intensive given China's geographic size. SCAPEGOAT ALERT (even after all the evidence to the contrary, they throw up climate change)A study by Shourong Wang and Zuqiang Zhang concluded that climate change is compounding the problem. The authors found that China's average temperature rose by 1.1°C from 1908 to 2007. They expect that from 2000, the annual mean air temperature in China will rise by 1.3 to 2.1°C by 2020 and 2.3 to 3.3°C by 2050. According to China Daily, Chen Lei, Minister of Water Resources, said, "global climate change could further exacerbate existing problems over water security, water supply and farming irrigation." Another problem is that China's primary energy source is coal. Coal production is a water-intensive process and also has other ecological side effects, which further pollute China's water supply.

I think you need to provide a link to those crazy temperature predictions for credibility purposes  ::) ::)

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:27pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:54pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well. glaciers are compacted snow And snow fields are not glaciers

so how do glaciers exist?

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 2:54pm:

____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well.

The Tibetan Plateau covers an area of approximately 2,500,000 km2. The glaciers in the Himalayans and Karakoram ranges cover a total area of approximately 40,800km2 and are the sources of the major river systems of the Tibetan Plateau region.  These glaciers supply water to almost 1.5 billion people in Asia; almost a quarter of the world’s population. Estimates indicate that approximately six to 45 per cent of flows in the major rivers are dependent on glacial melt; this increases to 70 per cent in summer.

Reports indicate that the glaciers in the Himalayas are melting rapidly. An increase in glacial melt could cause significant disruptions to the region’s future water security. The countries that depend most on water from the Tibetan Plateau are Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand and the countries of the Mekong sub-region, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam.

www.futuredirections.org.au/publications/food-and-water-crises/1709-climate-change-in-the-tibetan-plateau-region-glacial-melt-and-future-water-security.html

____ wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 3:35pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:54pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well. The Tibetan Plateau covers an area of approximately 2,500,000 km2. The glaciers in the Himalayans and Karakoram ranges cover a total area of approximately 40,800km2 and are the sources of the major river systems of the Tibetan Plateau region.  These glaciers supply water to almost 1.5 billion people in Asia; almost a quarter of the world’s population. Estimates indicate that approximately six to 45 per cent of flows in the major rivers are dependent on glacial melt; this increases to 70 per cent in summer. Reports indicate that the glaciers in the Himalayas are melting rapidly. An increase in glacial melt could cause significant disruptions to the region’s future water security. The countries that depend most on water from the Tibetan Plateau are Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand and the countries of the Mekong sub-region, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. www.futuredirections.org.au/publications/food-and-water-crises/1709-climate-change-in-the-tibetan-plateau-region-glacial-melt-and-future-water-security.html

And if the glaciers are melting, it means those countries would receive more water, not less.

Also, if the glaciers are the water source for the rivers that supply the countries, doesn't that mean that the glaciers have been melting for thousands, if not millions of years?

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 3:38pm:

____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:35pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:54pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well. The Tibetan Plateau covers an area of approximately 2,500,000 km2. The glaciers in the Himalayans and Karakoram ranges cover a total area of approximately 40,800km2 and are the sources of the major river systems of the Tibetan Plateau region.  These glaciers supply water to almost 1.5 billion people in Asia; almost a quarter of the world’s population. Estimates indicate that approximately six to 45 per cent of flows in the major rivers are dependent on glacial melt; this increases to 70 per cent in summer. Reports indicate that the glaciers in the Himalayas are melting rapidly. An increase in glacial melt could cause significant disruptions to the region’s future water security. The countries that depend most on water from the Tibetan Plateau are Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand and the countries of the Mekong sub-region, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. www.futuredirections.org.au/publications/food-and-water-crises/1709-climate-change-in-the-tibetan-plateau-region-glacial-melt-and-future-water-security.html And if the glaciers are melting, it means those countries would receive more water, not less. Also, if the glaciers are the water source for the rivers that supply the countries, doesn't that mean that the glaciers have been melting for thousands, if not millions of years?

Gizmo again chooses to overlook the "melting rapidly" fact.

It appears that Gizmo believes that Global Warming and the eventual demise of glaciers is beneficial to mankind.

Svengali wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 3:45pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:38pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:35pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:54pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well. The Tibetan Plateau covers an area of approximately 2,500,000 km2. The glaciers in the Himalayans and Karakoram ranges cover a total area of approximately 40,800km2 and are the sources of the major river systems of the Tibetan Plateau region.  These glaciers supply water to almost 1.5 billion people in Asia; almost a quarter of the world’s population. Estimates indicate that approximately six to 45 per cent of flows in the major rivers are dependent on glacial melt; this increases to 70 per cent in summer. Reports indicate that the glaciers in the Himalayas are melting rapidly. An increase in glacial melt could cause significant disruptions to the region’s future water security. The countries that depend most on water from the Tibetan Plateau are Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand and the countries of the Mekong sub-region, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. www.futuredirections.org.au/publications/food-and-water-crises/1709-climate-change-in-the-tibetan-plateau-region-glacial-melt-and-future-water-security.html And if the glaciers are melting, it means those countries would receive more water, not less. Also, if the glaciers are the water source for the rivers that supply the countries, doesn't that mean that the glaciers have been melting for thousands, if not millions of years? Gizmo again chooses to overlook the "melting rapidly" fact. It appears that Gizmo believes that Global Warming and the eventual demise of glaciers is beneficial to mankind.

Are they, in fact, 'melting rapidly'??? Or is that just the opinion of the World Wildlife Fund?

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 3:38pm:

____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:35pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:54pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well. The Tibetan Plateau covers an area of approximately 2,500,000 km2. The glaciers in the Himalayans and Karakoram ranges cover a total area of approximately 40,800km2 and are the sources of the major river systems of the Tibetan Plateau region.  These glaciers supply water to almost 1.5 billion people in Asia; almost a quarter of the world’s population. Estimates indicate that approximately six to 45 per cent of flows in the major rivers are dependent on glacial melt; this increases to 70 per cent in summer. Reports indicate that the glaciers in the Himalayas are melting rapidly. An increase in glacial melt could cause significant disruptions to the region’s future water security. The countries that depend most on water from the Tibetan Plateau are Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand and the countries of the Mekong sub-region, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. www.futuredirections.org.au/publications/food-and-water-crises/1709-climate-change-in-the-tibetan-plateau-region-glacial-melt-and-future-water-security.html And if the glaciers are melting, it means those countries would receive more water, not less. Also, if the glaciers are the water source for the rivers that supply the countries, doesn't that mean that the glaciers have been melting for thousands, if not millions of years?

Correct. i.e major flooding in Bangladesh.

And as the glaciers decrease in size due to humans cooking the climate, what happens next to flow from melting glacier water.?

____ wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 3:54pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:38pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:35pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:54pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well. The Tibetan Plateau covers an area of approximately 2,500,000 km2. The glaciers in the Himalayans and Karakoram ranges cover a total area of approximately 40,800km2 and are the sources of the major river systems of the Tibetan Plateau region.  These glaciers supply water to almost 1.5 billion people in Asia; almost a quarter of the world’s population. Estimates indicate that approximately six to 45 per cent of flows in the major rivers are dependent on glacial melt; this increases to 70 per cent in summer. Reports indicate that the glaciers in the Himalayas are melting rapidly. An increase in glacial melt could cause significant disruptions to the region’s future water security. The countries that depend most on water from the Tibetan Plateau are Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand and the countries of the Mekong sub-region, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. www.futuredirections.org.au/publications/food-and-water-crises/1709-climate-change-in-the-tibetan-plateau-region-glacial-melt-and-future-water-security.html And if the glaciers are melting, it means those countries would receive more water, not less. Also, if the glaciers are the water source for the rivers that supply the countries, doesn't that mean that the glaciers have been melting for thousands, if not millions of years? Correct. i.e major flooding in Bangladesh. And as the glaciers decrease in size due to humans cooking the climate, what happens next to flow from melting glacier water.?

The snow fall replenishes it, as has been happening for eons.

gizmo doesn't like dimensional analysis  8-) 8-)

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 3:58pm:

____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:54pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:38pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:35pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:54pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well. The Tibetan Plateau covers an area of approximately 2,500,000 km2. The glaciers in the Himalayans and Karakoram ranges cover a total area of approximately 40,800km2 and are the sources of the major river systems of the Tibetan Plateau region.  These glaciers supply water to almost 1.5 billion people in Asia; almost a quarter of the world’s population. Estimates indicate that approximately six to 45 per cent of flows in the major rivers are dependent on glacial melt; this increases to 70 per cent in summer. Reports indicate that the glaciers in the Himalayas are melting rapidly. An increase in glacial melt could cause significant disruptions to the region’s future water security. The countries that depend most on water from the Tibetan Plateau are Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand and the countries of the Mekong sub-region, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. www.futuredirections.org.au/publications/food-and-water-crises/1709-climate-change-in-the-tibetan-plateau-region-glacial-melt-and-future-water-security.html And if the glaciers are melting, it means those countries would receive more water, not less. Also, if the glaciers are the water source for the rivers that supply the countries, doesn't that mean that the glaciers have been melting for thousands, if not millions of years? Correct. i.e major flooding in Bangladesh. And as the glaciers decrease in size due to humans cooking the climate, what happens next to flow from melting glacier water.? The snow fall replenishes it, as has been happening for eons.

lol, now gizmo wants to talk about balance ...  ::) ::)

..he'll be pulling out unlabelled graphs next  8-) 8-)

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 3:58pm:

____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:54pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:38pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:35pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:54pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well. The Tibetan Plateau covers an area of approximately 2,500,000 km2. The glaciers in the Himalayans and Karakoram ranges cover a total area of approximately 40,800km2 and are the sources of the major river systems of the Tibetan Plateau region.  These glaciers supply water to almost 1.5 billion people in Asia; almost a quarter of the world’s population. Estimates indicate that approximately six to 45 per cent of flows in the major rivers are dependent on glacial melt; this increases to 70 per cent in summer. Reports indicate that the glaciers in the Himalayas are melting rapidly. An increase in glacial melt could cause significant disruptions to the region’s future water security. The countries that depend most on water from the Tibetan Plateau are Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand and the countries of the Mekong sub-region, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. www.futuredirections.org.au/publications/food-and-water-crises/1709-climate-change-in-the-tibetan-plateau-region-glacial-melt-and-future-water-security.html And if the glaciers are melting, it means those countries would receive more water, not less. Also, if the glaciers are the water source for the rivers that supply the countries, doesn't that mean that the glaciers have been melting for thousands, if not millions of years? Correct. i.e major flooding in Bangladesh. And as the glaciers decrease in size due to humans cooking the climate, what happens next to flow from melting glacier water.? The snow fall replenishes it, as has been happening for eons.

Precipitation adding to glaciers as in the past is not a certainty with runaway climate change.

Thats the thing about runaway climate change, it's like playing russian roulette.

____ wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:06pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:58pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:54pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:38pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:35pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:54pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well. The Tibetan Plateau covers an area of approximately 2,500,000 km2. The glaciers in the Himalayans and Karakoram ranges cover a total area of approximately 40,800km2 and are the sources of the major river systems of the Tibetan Plateau region.  These glaciers supply water to almost 1.5 billion people in Asia; almost a quarter of the world’s population. Estimates indicate that approximately six to 45 per cent of flows in the major rivers are dependent on glacial melt; this increases to 70 per cent in summer. Reports indicate that the glaciers in the Himalayas are melting rapidly. An increase in glacial melt could cause significant disruptions to the region’s future water security. The countries that depend most on water from the Tibetan Plateau are Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand and the countries of the Mekong sub-region, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. www.futuredirections.org.au/publications/food-and-water-crises/1709-climate-change-in-the-tibetan-plateau-region-glacial-melt-and-future-water-security.html And if the glaciers are melting, it means those countries would receive more water, not less. Also, if the glaciers are the water source for the rivers that supply the countries, doesn't that mean that the glaciers have been melting for thousands, if not millions of years? Correct. i.e major flooding in Bangladesh. And as the glaciers decrease in size due to humans cooking the climate, what happens next to flow from melting glacier water.? The snow fall replenishes it, as has been happening for eons. Precipitation adding to glaciers is not a certainty with runaway climate change.

Don't worry... he's going to start pulling out the unlabelled graphs to trick the kiddies soon  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh get your head out of your arse.

This isn't about climate change, this is about 1 billion people and massive economic growth and a massive industrial machine turning the country to crap.

25,000 rivers gone.

And Spazgali reckons it's awesome. ::)

____ wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:06pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:58pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:54pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:38pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:35pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:54pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well. The Tibetan Plateau covers an area of approximately 2,500,000 km2. The glaciers in the Himalayans and Karakoram ranges cover a total area of approximately 40,800km2 and are the sources of the major river systems of the Tibetan Plateau region.  These glaciers supply water to almost 1.5 billion people in Asia; almost a quarter of the world’s population. Estimates indicate that approximately six to 45 per cent of flows in the major rivers are dependent on glacial melt; this increases to 70 per cent in summer. Reports indicate that the glaciers in the Himalayas are melting rapidly. An increase in glacial melt could cause significant disruptions to the region’s future water security. The countries that depend most on water from the Tibetan Plateau are Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand and the countries of the Mekong sub-region, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. www.futuredirections.org.au/publications/food-and-water-crises/1709-climate-change-in-the-tibetan-plateau-region-glacial-melt-and-future-water-security.html And if the glaciers are melting, it means those countries would receive more water, not less. Also, if the glaciers are the water source for the rivers that supply the countries, doesn't that mean that the glaciers have been melting for thousands, if not millions of years? Correct. i.e major flooding in Bangladesh. And as the glaciers decrease in size due to humans cooking the climate, what happens next to flow from melting glacier water.? The snow fall replenishes it, as has been happening for eons. Precipitation adding to glaciers as in the past is not a certainty with runaway climate change. Thats the thing about runaway climate change, it's like playing russian roulette.

Lucky thing we don't have 'runaway climate change' happening then, isn't it??
"Unusual ice

The Karakoram is a picturesque chain of snowy peaks along the border of India, Pakistan and China. It's part of the larger Himalaya mountain chain, which is losing its glaciers as the climate warms.

Yet observations in the Karakoram region reveal that the glaciers there are stable, and snowfall is increasing instead of decreasing.

"I really wanted to dive deeply into why that is," Kapnick said.

She and her colleagues collected data on recent precipitation and temperatures from the Pakistan Meteorological Department and other sources, including satellite data. They combined this information with climate models to track changes in three regions of the Himalayas between 1861 and 2100: the Karakoram; the central Himalayas; and the southeast Himalayas which included part of the Tibetan Plateau."

http://www.livescience.com/48256-asia-karakoram-glaciers-stability.html

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:14pm:

Lucky thing we don't have 'runaway climate change' happening then, isn't it?? "Unusual ice The Karakoram is a picturesque chain of snowy peaks along the border of India, Pakistan and China. It's part of the larger Himalaya mountain chain, which is losing its glaciers as the climate warms. Yet observations in the Karakoram region reveal that the glaciers there are stable, and snowfall is increasing instead of decreasing. "I really wanted to dive deeply into why that is," Kapnick said. She and her colleagues collected data on recent precipitation and temperatures from the Pakistan Meteorological Department and other sources, including satellite data. They combined this information with climate models to track changes in three regions of the Himalayas between 1861 and 2100: the Karakoram; the central Himalayas; and the southeast Himalayas which included part of the Tibetan Plateau." http://www.livescience.com/48256-asia-karakoram-glaciers-stability.html

There are mixed messages in the asian snowscape  ;) ;)

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:14pm:

____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:06pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:58pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:54pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:38pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:35pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:54pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well. The Tibetan Plateau covers an area of approximately 2,500,000 km2. The glaciers in the Himalayans and Karakoram ranges cover a total area of approximately 40,800km2 and are the sources of the major river systems of the Tibetan Plateau region.  These glaciers supply water to almost 1.5 billion people in Asia; almost a quarter of the world’s population. Estimates indicate that approximately six to 45 per cent of flows in the major rivers are dependent on glacial melt; this increases to 70 per cent in summer. Reports indicate that the glaciers in the Himalayas are melting rapidly. An increase in glacial melt could cause significant disruptions to the region’s future water security. The countries that depend most on water from the Tibetan Plateau are Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand and the countries of the Mekong sub-region, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. www.futuredirections.org.au/publications/food-and-water-crises/1709-climate-change-in-the-tibetan-plateau-region-glacial-melt-and-future-water-security.html And if the glaciers are melting, it means those countries would receive more water, not less. Also, if the glaciers are the water source for the rivers that supply the countries, doesn't that mean that the glaciers have been melting for thousands, if not millions of years? Correct. i.e major flooding in Bangladesh. And as the glaciers decrease in size due to humans cooking the climate, what happens next to flow from melting glacier water.? The snow fall replenishes it, as has been happening for eons. Precipitation adding to glaciers as in the past is not a certainty with runaway climate change. Thats the thing about runaway climate change, it's like playing russian roulette. Lucky thing we don't have 'runaway climate change' happening then, isn't it?? "Unusual ice The Karakoram is a picturesque chain of snowy peaks along the border of India, Pakistan and China. It's part of the larger Himalaya mountain chain, which is losing its glaciers as the climate warms. Yet observations in the Karakoram region reveal that the glaciers there are stable, and snowfall is increasing instead of decreasing. "I really wanted to dive deeply into why that is," Kapnick said. She and her colleagues collected data on recent precipitation and temperatures from the Pakistan Meteorological Department and other sources, including satellite data. They combined this information with climate models to track changes in three regions of the Himalayas between 1861 and 2100: the Karakoram; the central Himalayas; and the southeast Himalayas which included part of the Tibetan Plateau." http://www.livescience.com/48256-asia-karakoram-glaciers-stability.html

Quote:

Understanding the snowfall in the Karakoram and the rest of the Himalayas is important for teasing out regional variations in climate change

I am not sure why you used this link since it backs human global warming and the retreating of the majority of glaciers, and so the water flow into rivers in India, China and beyond. 

It backs the posts I have made.

____ wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:24pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:14pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:06pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:58pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:54pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:38pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:35pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:54pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well. The Tibetan Plateau covers an area of approximately 2,500,000 km2. The glaciers in the Himalayans and Karakoram ranges cover a total area of approximately 40,800km2 and are the sources of the major river systems of the Tibetan Plateau region.  These glaciers supply water to almost 1.5 billion people in Asia; almost a quarter of the world’s population. Estimates indicate that approximately six to 45 per cent of flows in the major rivers are dependent on glacial melt; this increases to 70 per cent in summer. Reports indicate that the glaciers in the Himalayas are melting rapidly. An increase in glacial melt could cause significant disruptions to the region’s future water security. The countries that depend most on water from the Tibetan Plateau are Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand and the countries of the Mekong sub-region, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. www.futuredirections.org.au/publications/food-and-water-crises/1709-climate-change-in-the-tibetan-plateau-region-glacial-melt-and-future-water-security.html And if the glaciers are melting, it means those countries would receive more water, not less. Also, if the glaciers are the water source for the rivers that supply the countries, doesn't that mean that the glaciers have been melting for thousands, if not millions of years? Correct. i.e major flooding in Bangladesh. And as the glaciers decrease in size due to humans cooking the climate, what happens next to flow from melting glacier water.? The snow fall replenishes it, as has been happening for eons. Precipitation adding to glaciers as in the past is not a certainty with runaway climate change. Thats the thing about runaway climate change, it's like playing russian roulette. Lucky thing we don't have 'runaway climate change' happening then, isn't it?? "Unusual ice The Karakoram is a picturesque chain of snowy peaks along the border of India, Pakistan and China. It's part of the larger Himalaya mountain chain, which is losing its glaciers as the climate warms. Yet observations in the Karakoram region reveal that the glaciers there are stable, and snowfall is increasing instead of decreasing. "I really wanted to dive deeply into why that is," Kapnick said. She and her colleagues collected data on recent precipitation and temperatures from the Pakistan Meteorological Department and other sources, including satellite data. They combined this information with climate models to track changes in three regions of the Himalayas between 1861 and 2100: the Karakoram; the central Himalayas; and the southeast Himalayas which included part of the Tibetan Plateau." http://www.livescience.com/48256-asia-karakoram-glaciers-stability.html Quote: Understanding the snowfall in the Karakoram and the rest of the Himalayas is important for teasing out regional variations in climate change I am not sure why you used this link since it backs human global warming and the retreating of the majority of glaciers, and so the water flow into rivers in India, China and beyond.  It backs the posts I have made.

No, you posted that the Karakoram glaciers were melting rapidly, that article shows that the opposite is true.

Quote:

author=Deathridesahorse link=1432608146/29#29 date=1432620028 lol, now gizmo wants to talk about balance ...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes ..he'll be pulling out unlabelled graphs next  Cool Cool

Let us pray that is all Gizmo pulls out.

Svengali wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:32pm:

Let us pray that is all Gizmo pulls out.

This isn't about climate change, this is about 1 billion people and massive economic growth and a massive industrial machine turning the country to crap.

25,000 rivers gone.

And Spazgali reckons it's awesome.

;D

Svengali wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:32pm:

Let us pray that is all Gizmo pulls out.

Aww, afraid I'll prove you wrong/gullible again? ;D ;D

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:27pm:

____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:24pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:14pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:06pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:58pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:54pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:38pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 3:35pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 2:54pm: ____ wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 1:28pm: Both China and India have a major challenge with water/food. Human caused climate change shrinking the glaciers in the Himalayas that feed rivers in both countries. Meanwhile the west are planning on hiding behind the Indians in a Indian/China war, be it a physical or cold. Actually, you'll find that it's SNOW melt, not glacier melt that feeds the rivers in India, and possibly China as well. The Tibetan Plateau covers an area of approximately 2,500,000 km2. The glaciers in the Himalayans and Karakoram ranges cover a total area of approximately 40,800km2 and are the sources of the major river systems of the Tibetan Plateau region.  These glaciers supply water to almost 1.5 billion people in Asia; almost a quarter of the world’s population. Estimates indicate that approximately six to 45 per cent of flows in the major rivers are dependent on glacial melt; this increases to 70 per cent in summer. Reports indicate that the glaciers in the Himalayas are melting rapidly. An increase in glacial melt could cause significant disruptions to the region’s future water security. The countries that depend most on water from the Tibetan Plateau are Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand and the countries of the Mekong sub-region, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. www.futuredirections.org.au/publications/food-and-water-crises/1709-climate-change-in-the-tibetan-plateau-region-glacial-melt-and-future-water-security.html And if the glaciers are melting, it means those countries would receive more water, not less. Also, if the glaciers are the water source for the rivers that supply the countries, doesn't that mean that the glaciers have been melting for thousands, if not millions of years? Correct. i.e major flooding in Bangladesh. And as the glaciers decrease in size due to humans cooking the climate, what happens next to flow from melting glacier water.? The snow fall replenishes it, as has been happening for eons. Precipitation adding to glaciers as in the past is not a certainty with runaway climate change. Thats the thing about runaway climate change, it's like playing russian roulette. Lucky thing we don't have 'runaway climate change' happening then, isn't it?? "Unusual ice The Karakoram is a picturesque chain of snowy peaks along the border of India, Pakistan and China. It's part of the larger Himalaya mountain chain, which is losing its glaciers as the climate warms. Yet observations in the Karakoram region reveal that the glaciers there are stable, and snowfall is increasing instead of decreasing. "I really wanted to dive deeply into why that is," Kapnick said. She and her colleagues collected data on recent precipitation and temperatures from the Pakistan Meteorological Department and other sources, including satellite data. They combined this information with climate models to track changes in three regions of the Himalayas between 1861 and 2100: the Karakoram; the central Himalayas; and the southeast Himalayas which included part of the Tibetan Plateau." http://www.livescience.com/48256-asia-karakoram-glaciers-stability.html Quote: Understanding the snowfall in the Karakoram and the rest of the Himalayas is important for teasing out regional variations in climate change I am not sure why you used this link since it backs human global warming and the retreating of the majority of glaciers, and so the water flow into rivers in India, China and beyond.  It backs the posts I have made. No, you posted that the Karakoram glaciers were melting rapidly, that article shows that the opposite is true.

I said glaciers of the Himalayas. You found the one exception and in your link they explain why this glacier is the exception currently.

Meanwhile the majority of glaciers in the Himalayas are shrinking and putting human civilisation at risk down stream.

Usually you are on the ball Gizmo. One bad day in a while must be expected. Take some time off and go for a walk.

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:36pm:

Svengali wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:32pm: Let us pray that is all Gizmo pulls out. Aww, afraid I'll prove you wrong/gullible again? ;D ;D

gizmo hates defeat... he hated it when lomborg got shafted by the parents and students and staff of UWA for trying to use Australian tax payer dollars-not to mention the name of one of Australias most respected universitys-- to sell a global political message that fossil fuels should be allowed to warm our kiddies earth by 3 degrees.

if you ask gizmo he will admit 3 degrees is perfectly safe for your kids and he will do all this without reference to any science.....  ;D ;D

go on: ask him- you know you want to!

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:45pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:36pm: Svengali wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:32pm: Let us pray that is all Gizmo pulls out. Aww, afraid I'll prove you wrong/gullible again? ;D ;D gizmo hates defeat... he hated it when lomborg got shafted by the parents and students and staff of UWA for trying to use Australian tax payer dollars-not to mention the name of one of Australias most respected universitys-- to sell a global political message that fossil fuels should be allowed to warm our kiddies earth by 3 degrees. if you ask gizmo he will admit 3 degrees is perfectly safe for your kids and he will do all this without reference to any science.....  ;D ;D go on: ask him- you know you want to!

My perception is that Gizmo loves defeat because he is a masochist. Gizmo thoroughly enjoys self flagellating in public.

If Gizmo was Chinese he would have won all the self confession competitions among Chinese in the 70s as to who was the biggest imperialist running dog.

Svengali wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:52pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:45pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:36pm: Svengali wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:32pm: Let us pray that is all Gizmo pulls out. Aww, afraid I'll prove you wrong/gullible again? ;D ;D gizmo hates defeat... he hated it when lomborg got shafted by the parents and students and staff of UWA for trying to use Australian tax payer dollars-not to mention the name of one of Australias most respected universitys-- to sell a global political message that fossil fuels should be allowed to warm our kiddies earth by 3 degrees. if you ask gizmo he will admit 3 degrees is perfectly safe for your kids and he will do all this without reference to any science.....  ;D ;D go on: ask him- you know you want to! My perception is that Gizmo loves defeat because he is a masochist. Gizmo thoroughly enjoys self flagellating in public. If Gizmo was Chinese he would have won all the self confession competitions among Chinese in the 70s as to who was the biggest imperialist running dog.

I would have imagined it was difficult to self flagellate in public anonymously  ;D

No.  India will never rise from its dire economic state.....

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 5:05pm:

Svengali wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:52pm: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:45pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:36pm: Svengali wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 4:32pm: Let us pray that is all Gizmo pulls out. Aww, afraid I'll prove you wrong/gullible again? ;D ;D gizmo hates defeat... he hated it when lomborg got shafted by the parents and students and staff of UWA for trying to use Australian tax payer dollars-not to mention the name of one of Australias most respected universitys-- to sell a global political message that fossil fuels should be allowed to warm our kiddies earth by 3 degrees. if you ask gizmo he will admit 3 degrees is perfectly safe for your kids and he will do all this without reference to any science.....  ;D ;D go on: ask him- you know you want to! My perception is that Gizmo loves defeat because he is a masochist. Gizmo thoroughly enjoys self flagellating in public. If Gizmo was Chinese he would have won all the self confession competitions among Chinese in the 70s as to who was the biggest imperialist running dog. I would have imagined it was difficult to self flagellate in public anonymously  ;D

That is exactly why Gizmo enjoys it.

India will never go ahead because Indians are corrupt dishonest CvN*s

miketrees wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 7:33pm:

India will never go ahead because Indians are corrupt dishonest CvN*s

Is that because of their legacy from the British?