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Title: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 26^th, 2015 at 8:20am

The Prime Minister will announce a new front bench position to combat Islamic radicalisation and improve consultation with Muslim leaders and at-risk communities.

Sky News understands Liberal Senator Concetta Fierravanti-Wells will be given the role, reporting to Attorney General George Brandis.

Attorney General George Brandis would not pre-empt the Prime Minister's announcement but confirmed the government will be strengthening its response to terrorism.

'The purpose (of our announcements) ... will be to strengthen our already strong response to the threat of home-grown terrorism and Islamist terrorism.'

The Prime Minister is expected to announce a discussion paper on stripping the citizenship of Australians engaged with terrorism.

Sky News understands there were strong reservations expressed at a Cabinet meeting on Monday about a proposed measure to strip first generation Australians of their citizenship if they fight with terror organizations.

The change could see Australians, even if they are not dual nationals, have their citizenship removed because they have the prospect of citizenship through the birthplace of a parent.

Mr Brandis has told Sky News the government is not planning changes that would render citizens stateless. 'Everything we do will be compliant to the rule of law. But we are going to be tough,' he said.

'These people are crazy, they are a threat to our civilisation, this government is absolutely determined to protect our people, including our youngsters from their influence,' he told Sky News.

It comes after the announcement on Monday that Justice Minister Michael Keenan will be given a new role assisting the Prime Minister on counter-terrorism issues.

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/05/26/new-minister-to-combat-islamic-radicalisation.html?cid=BP_RSS_sn-topstories_3_new-minister-to-combat-islamic-radicalisation_260515

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Dsmithy70 on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:03am

Don't Muslims hate women?
Make them walk 3 steps behind, give them a good thrashing at the slightest mistake, treat them as property?

I'm sure I've read all this stuff in the DT teaspoon.

So tell me how is a white women with what looks like Greek heritage going to be listened too, let alone respected by these horrible women hating towelheads?

What a pointless waste of time & tax payers money.(you can bet she'll be seeing a pay rise out of this)

A bit like George telling us this morning that we will soon have guidelines on what it is & means to be ~~Arian~~ sorry Australian.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:11am

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:03am:

First of all, her parents are Italian, not Greek. Secondly, did you not see the deep respect shown to Julie Bishop on her recent visit to Iran, a fervently Islamic country? Also, if you understood Islam at all, you'd know they don't hate women at all - right or wrong, women simply don't have equal status with men.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Dsmithy70 on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:17am

So they are just like a car right?

Something you own?

Not that I believe all this sh!t you litter the boards with from Pravda but at least try and make the narrative coherent.

(you might want to use this site for those last 2 http://dictionary.reference.com/)

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:19am

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

So you've got nothing then, right? Hardly surprising. How they treat their own women is a thing for them (personally, I don't agree with it), but they clearly showed a great deal of respect to Julie Bishop in Iran and she returned the favour by showing respect for their religion. I wouldn't expect you to understand anything about respect, however.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Julius Abbott on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:21am

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:03am:

Don't Muslims hate women?
.

No, you are thinking of Tony Abbott.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Redneck on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:21am

Another attempt by the big eared maggot to try and keep the public worried about islam, terrorism, ISIS etc.

Why isnt every other western country following his lead, creating all these special jobs, new minister roles etc.

Because it is all about getting him re-elected by keeping the public wrong footed.

Lets hope they can see through this dope! >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:21am:

I don't see Christian extremists going on deadly rampages killing people by the thousands (women and children included), pinning people to crucifixes and destroying centuries old artefacts. Let's hope that people like you are an exceptionally small minority. Grow a brain.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Dsmithy70 on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:19am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

Well lets just move on from that (but nice diversion, I especially liked how you managed to turn standard diplomatic courtesy as "Deep respect) & how about you answer my question.

How is a white anglo saxon women going to have any influence over radicalised muslim men who would enact Sharia law in this country?

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:28am

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:19am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

How did Bishop get staunchly Muslim men from the Iranian regime to sit down with her and talk to her as equals?

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Redneck on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:32am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

Grow a brain.

Practice what you preach stooge!

I dont see the USA president racing around like a chook with its head cut off.

Its all Abbott playing "Chicken Little" again

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:36am

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

Grow a brain.

Practice what you preach stooge!

I dont see the USA president racing around like a chook with its head cut off.

Its all Abbott playing "Chicken Little" again

I don't see Abbott doing that either... :-?

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Dsmithy70 on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:38am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:28am:

How did Bishop get staunchly Muslim men from the Iranian regime to sit down with her and talk to her as equals?

Seriously?

And you post on political boards?

Both Iran & Australia had a need, but hang on weren't the Iranians the bad guys just 6 months ago?

Don't they regularly hang people from cranes?

Don't they persecute christians, Bahia's & other secs not Shia?

Aren't they going to nuke Israel off the map if they get the chance?

Seems Tones will sup with anyone if it means brown people won't turn up in boats (planes are still OK though)

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 26^th, 2015 at 10:32am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:21am:

there is no other group in the world that do that.

Only muslims.
Only islam

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Vasco Pyjama on May 26^th, 2015 at 10:37am

This looks like a bit of job creation, and allows Tony Abbott to fill it with a female. Sinecure.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Dsmithy70 on May 26^th, 2015 at 10:46am

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 10:32am:

there is no other group in the world that do that.

Only muslims.
Only islam

Tones & Jules don't mind, why should you?

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Grendel on May 26^th, 2015 at 11:21am

What a load of hooey...
Radicalization, Smadicalisation...
Let's not allow these; badly behaved, ignorant, stupid, morally bereft, ungrateful, Muslims off the hook... "it's not our fault they were radicalized it's the fault of the West..." :D :D :D
give me a break.
These twits have been fed anti-western bigoted crap since birth, that's why they are like they are or they are psychos that have converted... I note the psycho converts are a very small minority. Right David Hicks?

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 8:20am:

Can't see how anyone and particularly Wells will help the situation, she's hardly known for her tact or moderation.
Anyway it's a waste of money and time.
Easy solution end Multiculti, deport those who have a problem with it, end dual citizenships, deport those that don't like it.

Quote:

The Prime Minister is expected to announce a discussion paper on stripping the citizenship of Australians engaged with terrorism.

Well should we applaud commonsense... or just expect it?
Personally I just expect it.

Quote:

'These people are crazy, they are a threat to our civilisation, this government is absolutely determined to protect our people, including our youngsters from their influence,' he told Sky News.

That's right, so let's not let them claim it's not their fault... and it's just this new disease Radicalization...

It's poor upbringing and a lack of morals... let's not let the parents off the hook on this 9/10 of them would have fed this crap to their children. If any of you had read the crap Hilali and Trad fed children over the years you'd know this.

Quote:

It comes after the announcement on Monday that Justice Minister Michael Keenan will be given a new role assisting the Prime Minister on counter-terrorism issues.

If you truly want to counter terrorism muslim terrorism, stop importing the Terrorists in the first place. Stop supporting them through Multiculturalism, stop supporting social disharmony.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by The Grappler on May 26^th, 2015 at 11:29am

Minister for The Propagation of Australian Values.......

Somehow that has a familiar ring to it.....

Reichs Minister of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda.. could be a job there for Longie....

Another chance for a fatter retirement package for doing buggar all for one of the Party faithful... Labor and Gillard aren't alone in that...

No wonder this country has gone to the dogs....

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by longweekend58 on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:18pm

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:21am:

what the hell do u think the Dept of Homeland Security is???? most western countries have depts. of offices specifically for this task.

try and keep up.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by copperinternetISARORT on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:37pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:19am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

"How they treat their own women...": is that what you said?

:o :o :o

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by copperinternetISARORT on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:40pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:28am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:19am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:17am:

How did Bishop get staunchly Muslim men from the Iranian regime to sit down with her and talk to her as equals?

..it's called diplomacy ::)

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by copperinternetISARORT on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:42pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 10:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:21am:

there is no other group in the world that do that.

Only muslims.
Only islam

History is easily forgotten by the thief :o :o

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Redneck on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:50pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:18pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:21am:

what the hell do u think the Dept of Homeland Security is???? most western countries have depts. of offices specifically for this task.

try and keep up.

But Abbotts creating a new scare campaign department every week

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by longweekend58 on May 26^th, 2015 at 1:04pm

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:18pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:21am:

what the hell do u think the Dept of Homeland Security is???? most western countries have depts. of offices specifically for this task.

try and keep up.

But Abbotts creating a new scare campaign department every week

hmmm.... three terrorist plots uncovered in as many months and for you it is a 'scare campaign'?

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Redneck on May 26^th, 2015 at 1:19pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 1:04pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:18pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:21am:

what the hell do u think the Dept of Homeland Security is???? most western countries have depts. of offices specifically for this task.

try and keep up.

But Abbotts creating a new scare campaign department every week

hmmm.... three terrorist plots uncovered in as many months and for you it is a 'scare campaign'?

No one convicted yet.

I more admire the person that goes about his job quielty, considered and methodically rather than having eight news conferences a day as this dope does. I doubt Obama or Cameron are jumping on TV every time a terrorist suspect is pulled in for questioning by the security forces

Scare campaign is all it is.

We will have boots on the ground in Iraq before Christmas with this tool in charge.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Grendel on May 26^th, 2015 at 3:59pm

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 1:19pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 1:04pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:18pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:21am:

what the hell do u think the Dept of Homeland Security is???? most western countries have depts. of offices specifically for this task.

try and keep up.

But Abbotts creating a new scare campaign department every week

hmmm.... three terrorist plots uncovered in as many months and for you it is a 'scare campaign'?

No one convicted yet. Untrue there are people already in gaol.

I more admire the person that goes about his job quielty, considered and methodically rather than having eight news conferences a day as this dope does.

Another lie... he doesn't.

I doubt Obama or Cameron are jumping on TV every time a terrorist suspect is pulled in for questioning by the security forces

Scare campaign is all it is. Untrue... :D

We will have boots on the ground in Iraq before Christmas with this tool in charge. More rubbish... and if we do it will be well warranted. I'd prefer boots on the ground protecting us than dead Australians.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Aussie on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:07pm

Grendel wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 3:59pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 1:19pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 1:04pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:18pm:

[quote author=Redneck link=1432592418/6#6 date=1432596108]Another attempt by the big eared maggot to try and keep the public worried about islam, terrorism, ISIS etc.

Why isnt every other western country following his lead, creating all these special jobs, new minister roles etc.

Because it is all about getting him re-elected by keeping the public wrong footed.

Lets hope they can see through this dope! >:( >:( >:(

what the hell do u think the Dept of Homeland Security is???? most western countries have depts. of offices specifically for this task.

try and keep up.

But Abbotts creating a new scare campaign department every week

hmmm.... three terrorist plots uncovered in as many months and for you it is a 'scare campaign'?

No one convicted yet. Untrue there are people already in gaol.

Thousands of them, indeed. What are they there for Grendel?
I more admire the person that goes about his job quielty, considered and methodically rather than having eight news conferences a day as this dope does.

Another lie... he doesn't.

Not a lie. An obvious exaggeration to make a point.

I doubt Obama or Cameron are jumping on TV every time a terrorist suspect is pulled in for questioning by the security forces

Scare campaign is all it is. Untrue... :D

True.

We will have boots on the ground in Iraq before Christmas with this tool in charge. More rubbish... and if we do it will be well warranted. I'd prefer boots on the ground protecting us than dead Australians.

Dead Australians? Where? If they die in Arabia, 'poo happens, wot?' We ought not be there.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Grendel on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:15pm

Hmmmm you are either a Froll or a Tool... or maybe both.
Stop posting crap and wasting everyone's time. :D :D :D

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Dsmithy70 on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:20pm

How about instead of the usual abbott hate & fanboi love that threads descend into, as this one teeters on the edge.

Someone have a go at answering my question,

HOW IS A WHITE ANGLO SAXON WOMEN GOING TO HAVE ANY INFLUENCE WITH YOUNG MUSLIM MEN FLIRTING WITH EXTREMISM???

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Karnal on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:21pm

Grendel wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:15pm:

Hmmmm you are either a Froll or a Tool... or maybe both.
Stop posting crap and wasting everyone's time. :D :D :D

Ignore them, Grendel. They're just leftards.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Karnal on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:22pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:20pm:

Can't she make falafel?

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Baronvonrort on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:25pm

We have been spending millions every year on programs to deradicalise muslims.

We spend zip zero zilch on programs to deradicalise people from every other religion.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Aussie on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:25pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:20pm:

She is not. This is Credlin propaganda tinsel and lipstick. As someone posted up there, a sinecure, a chance to look all 'equal rights' by creating an unnecessary position and handing it to a female.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by The Grappler on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:27pm

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/28221302/sydney-mother-abandons-children-to-go-to-join-is/?cmp=ydn

A family have spoken of their shock after a Sydney mother apparently abandoned her two children and ran off to Syria to start a new life with Islamic State.

Jasmina Mil-ovanov's mum has told 7News: "I am shocked before. I was shocked even before.

"But now we all trying to get through with our lives."

The 26-year-old reportedly hired a babysitter earlier this month, telling her that she was going to pick up a new car, but the mother of two never returned.

Jasmina's ex-husband claims she sent him a text message letting him know that she was in Syria and he believes she has now remarried there, News Corp reports.

Other religion's followers don't run off to go jihading....

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Dsmithy70 on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:29pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:25pm:

We have been spending millions every year on programs to deradicalise muslims.

We spend zip zero zilch on programs to deradicalise people from every other religion.

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:27pm:

Other religion's followers don't run off to go jihading....

Exactly WTF have these 2 responses got to do with my question or the thread in general?

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by Grendel on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:32pm

Well one is about radicalization and wasting our money the other is about radicals... I'd have thought both were on topic.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by longweekend58 on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:33pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:20pm:

you want the prize for most irrelevent question of the week?

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by longweekend58 on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:34pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:25pm:

We have been spending millions every year on programs to deradicalise muslims.

We spend zip zero zilch on programs to deradicalise people from every other religion.

because the Christians, hindus, Buddhists and atheists aren't bombing places or trying to kill cops.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by longweekend58 on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:35pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:27pm:

well she is probably already dead or will be soon. the life expectancy of these clowns isn't much.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by The Grappler on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:59pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:25pm:

We have been spending millions every year on programs to deradicalise muslims.

We spend zip zero zilch on programs to deradicalise people from every other religion.

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:27pm:

Other religion's followers don't run off to go jihading....

Exactly WTF have these 2 responses got to do with my question or the thread in general?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBqU0RnqBpE

How dare you impugn my response to a response?

EAT ME!

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by The Grappler on May 26^th, 2015 at 5:06pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:35pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 4:27pm:

well she is probably already dead or will be soon. the life expectancy of these clowns isn't much.

Just another neo-desert gook pushing up sand... drive on.. nothing to see here...

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by issuevoter on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:00pm

This new ministry is pure cynicism.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by ImSpartacus2 on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:06pm

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:21am:

Exactly right Redneck. No budget emergency when this slime wants to p!$$ away hundreds of millions of dollars on this scare campaign to win votes.

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by ImSpartacus2 on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:25pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 1:04pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

But Abbotts creating a new scare campaign department every week

hmmm.... three terrorist plots uncovered in as many months and for you it is a 'scare campaign'?

Yeah this is the arms cache they captured from their latest raid

and these

You really got to wonder if ISIS has any arms left

Title: Re: New minister to combat radicalisation
Post by longweekend58 on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:52pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 9:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 1:04pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

But Abbotts creating a new scare campaign department every week

hmmm.... three terrorist plots uncovered in as many months and for you it is a 'scare campaign'?

Yeah this is the arms cache they captured from their latest raid

and these

You really got to wonder if ISIS has any arms left

always supporting the terrorists... that's you.