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Message started by imcrookonit on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 6:13am

Title: Its A GP Co-Payment By Stealth, He Said
Post by imcrookonit on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 6:13am
Medicare freeze to cost Australians $10 for each GP visit   :(

Date
    March 23, 2015
    Canberra Times


The decision to freeze Medicare payments until 2018 will cost Australians about $10 -double the government's failed copayment - every time they visit the doctor.   

Doctors say the freeze will affect the quality of care. General practitioners will be forced to either charge patients more for consultations because medical practices can no longer absorb the cost of running local medicine or see more patients to ensure consistent income.

New research published in the Medical Journal of Australia on Monday today reveals that GPs' income will decline for each consultation. GPs will be at least $4 worse off for each patient, but because they usually only charge a gap to non-concessional patients, they will be forced to charge a minimum of $8.43 or absorb the cut of 7.1 per cent.

Chris Harrison, lead researcher and senior research analyst at the Family Medicine Research Centre at the University of Sydney, says: "The government is now forcing GPs to hold the hat out."   


And Stephen Duckett, health program director at the Grattan Institute, says the continuation of the freeze is the government's way of enforcing a policy of patient contribution.

"It's a copayment by stealth and a lazy set of savings," he said. "The current business model for GPs can't be expected to absorb a change of that magnitude."   

In the 2012-13 year, 85 per cent of Australians visited the doctor, said Duckett. Compared with the OECD average, Australia is on the lower side of cost and on the higher side of life expectancy.

Internationally, the direction of public policy is to strengthen general practice because it saved money further along the health chain, he said.

The average cost of a general practice visit is about 1 per cent of the average hospital stay and about one-sixth of a visit to a hospital emergency department.

The Royal Australian College of General Practitioners has called for the federal government to overturn the freeze and reinstate annual indexation on patient rebates.

The president of the RACGP, Frank Jones, says: "Our position  is very clear, we do not want the freeze to continue - it will ultimately impact patients, who will be forced to bear the cost of this policy."

He said costs rose every year and GPs could not absorb the increasing costs associated with the delivery of quality healthcare.

"The freeze is, in effect, yet another barrier to patients accessing quality general-practice care," he said.

Dr Jones also said a RACGP survey of medical students, interns, registrars and new RACGP fellows showed that 64 per cent had been led, by the government's proposed changes, to reconsider their career path or interest in general practice as a vocation.

Dr Phill Cameron, a GP in Sydney's inner city, says the scheduled fee is a pitiful amount. "It's why a lot of GPs have not been able to sustain bulk billing.

"You either have to cut back on what you provide in terms of quality of care or charge patients more out of their pockets to cover it," he said. "There will be increasing pressure on GPs in smaller practices, particularly in disadvantaged areas."

The new research says the estimates of increased cost are conservative and cannot predict the amount GPs will charge once they are forced, for economic reasons, to introduce a copayment.

"The freeze will result in Medicare savings," say the authors. "However, patient out-of-pocket expenses will be higher than these savings because GPs will need to charge more than their lost income in order to recoup the additional implementation and operational costs we have discussed."

The government does not need to pass legislation for the freeze on Medicare payments.

Title: Re: Its A GP Co-Payment By Stealth, He Said
Post by imcrookonit on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 6:20am
Mr Abbott, we have told you, and told you.  We don't like your doctor tax.  We don't like the GP Co-payment.      :(  

Title: Re: Its A GP Co-Payment By Stealth, He Said
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 6:30am

wrote on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 6:20am:
Mr Abbott, we have told you, and told you.  We don't like your doctor tax.  We don't like the GP Co-payment.      :(  



My Doctor - who bulk bills - will be adding a new fee soon.

Abbott gave him ideas.

Title: Re: Its A GP Co-Payment By Stealth, He Said
Post by imcrookonit on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 8:06am
Yes Sir Bobby, its another slap in the face for sick people, from the Abbott government.      :(

Title: Re: Its A GP Co-Payment By Stealth, He Said
Post by The Grappler on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 9:28am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 6:30am:

wrote on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 6:20am:
Mr Abbott, we have told you, and told you.  We don't like your doctor tax.  We don't like the GP Co-payment.      :(  



My Doctor - who bulk bills - will be adding a new fee soon.

Abbott gave him ideas.



That was the idea, Bobby - my doctor has ceased bulk billing.

Thanks for nothing Tony.

Title: Re: Its A GP Co-Payment By Stealth, He Said
Post by woody2014 on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 9:54am

wrote on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 6:13am:
Medicare freeze to cost Australians $10 for each GP visit   :(

Date
    March 23, 2015
    Canberra Times


The decision to freeze Medicare payments until 2018 will cost Australians about $10 -double the government's failed copayment - every time they visit the doctor.   

Doctors say the freeze will affect the quality of care. General practitioners will be forced to either charge patients more for consultations because medical practices can no longer absorb the cost of running local medicine or see more patients to ensure consistent income.

New research published in the Medical Journal of Australia on Monday today reveals that GPs' income will decline for each consultation. GPs will be at least $4 worse off for each patient, but because they usually only charge a gap to non-concessional patients, they will be forced to charge a minimum of $8.43 or absorb the cut of 7.1 per cent.

Chris Harrison, lead researcher and senior research analyst at the Family Medicine Research Centre at the University of Sydney, says: "The government is now forcing GPs to hold the hat out."   


And Stephen Duckett, health program director at the Grattan Institute, says the continuation of the freeze is the government's way of enforcing a policy of patient contribution.

"It's a copayment by stealth and a lazy set of savings," he said. "The current business model for GPs can't be expected to absorb a change of that magnitude."   

In the 2012-13 year, 85 per cent of Australians visited the doctor, said Duckett. Compared with the OECD average, Australia is on the lower side of cost and on the higher side of life expectancy.

Internationally, the direction of public policy is to strengthen general practice because it saved money further along the health chain, he said.

The average cost of a general practice visit is about 1 per cent of the average hospital stay and about one-sixth of a visit to a hospital emergency department.

The Royal Australian College of General Practitioners has called for the federal government to overturn the freeze and reinstate annual indexation on patient rebates.

The president of the RACGP, Frank Jones, says: "Our position  is very clear, we do not want the freeze to continue - it will ultimately impact patients, who will be forced to bear the cost of this policy."

He said costs rose every year and GPs could not absorb the increasing costs associated with the delivery of quality healthcare.

"The freeze is, in effect, yet another barrier to patients accessing quality general-practice care," he said.

Dr Jones also said a RACGP survey of medical students, interns, registrars and new RACGP fellows showed that 64 per cent had been led, by the government's proposed changes, to reconsider their career path or interest in general practice as a vocation.

Dr Phill Cameron, a GP in Sydney's inner city, says the scheduled fee is a pitiful amount. "It's why a lot of GPs have not been able to sustain bulk billing.

"You either have to cut back on what you provide in terms of quality of care or charge patients more out of their pockets to cover it," he said. "There will be increasing pressure on GPs in smaller practices, particularly in disadvantaged areas."

The new research says the estimates of increased cost are conservative and cannot predict the amount GPs will charge once they are forced, for economic reasons, to introduce a copayment.

"The freeze will result in Medicare savings," say the authors. "However, patient out-of-pocket expenses will be higher than these savings because GPs will need to charge more than their lost income in order to recoup the additional implementation and operational costs we have discussed."

The government does not need to pass legislation for the freeze on Medicare payments.


You poor simple minded fksticks the 2 GP clinic's in Benalla NE Vic charge a $15 FEE An have been doing so for TEN FNN YEARS   >:(  RING AND CHECK 57621022

Title: Re: Its A GP Co-Payment By Stealth, He Said
Post by The Grappler on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 9:57am
The wolves loose in the Die Benallawalde in no way reflect the rest of society....

My doc flies one day a week to The Town With No Quack, and charges full fee for his day there.  He has to pay for the plane and the fuel, only fair.

Title: Re: Its A GP Co-Payment By Stealth, He Said
Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 10:17am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 9:28am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 6:30am:

wrote on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 6:20am:
Mr Abbott, we have told you, and told you.  We don't like your doctor tax.  We don't like the GP Co-payment.      :(  



My Doctor - who bulk bills - will be adding a new fee soon.

Abbott gave him ideas.



That was the idea, Bobby - my doctor has ceased bulk billing.

Thanks for nothing Tony.


thanks for trying to save Australias future Mr Abbott.

the left don't care about it, I do.

Title: Re: Its A GP Co-Payment By Stealth, He Said
Post by John Smith on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 2:18pm

woody2014 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 9:54am:
You poor simple minded fksticks the 2 GP clinic's in Benalla NE Vic charge a $15 FEE An have been doing so for TEN FNN YEARS   Angry  RING AND CHECK 57621022



and?  many doctors charge a fee to top up the medicare, that's because medicare is already to low.

Cut it further and ALL doctors will have to charge a fee.

Title: Re: Its A GP Co-Payment By Stealth, He Said
Post by The Grappler on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 3:56pm
Bulk billing for those with a card....GP Policy..

Freezing rebates is a de facto cost to doctors with escalating costs of running a business... of course it will be passed on.  Joe said he'd get us one way or another ... this is phase two...

Now - what is Bill Shorten offering by way of response?

Deafening silence?  Too busy listening to the sheila's lobby to hear the real people any more...

Title: Re: Its A GP Co-Payment By Stealth, He Said
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 5:49pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 9:28am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 6:30am:

wrote on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 6:20am:
Mr Abbott, we have told you, and told you.  We don't like your doctor tax.  We don't like the GP Co-payment.      :(  



My Doctor - who bulk bills - will be adding a new fee soon.

Abbott gave him ideas.



That was the idea, Bobby - my doctor has ceased bulk billing.

Thanks for nothing Tony.



What did we all expect?

We should have expected medicare to be eroded under the right winger- Tony Abbott.



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