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Message started by Julius Abbott on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 2:24pm

Title: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Julius Abbott on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 2:24pm
If NSW vote a Labor Government in on Saturday, Abbott will probably be gone by Monday.


Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Messenger of God on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 2:30pm
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Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 2:31pm

Julius Abbott wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 2:24pm:
If NSW vote a Labor Government in on Saturday, Abbott will probably be gone by Monday.



not seen the polls in NSW, have you?  Labor is heading to a massacre, just a bit better than the previous massacre.

Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Swagman on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 2:31pm

Julius Abbott wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 2:24pm:
If NSW vote a Labor Government in on Saturday, Abbott will probably be gone by Monday.


..IF me 'Aunty' had balls she'd be me 'Uncle'   :D

Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Grendel on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 2:32pm
Actually it's not Jules.
But if Baird gets done it will send a lot of very mixed messages.

Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Julius Abbott on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 2:42pm

Quote:
NSW Election 2015: 'If Baird goes next Saturday, Abbott goes Monday', says Foley at ALP rally in Sydney

Voters in New South Wales are being promised a two-for-one deal if they vote for Labor at next Saturday's state poll...

...Opposition Leader Luke Foley told the crowd of about 200 people that "if Mr Baird goes next Saturday, Mr Abbott goes on the Monday."

Mr Foley once again vowed that Labor would never support the sale of the electricity network.

[quote]If you cut hospitals, if you cut schools then you're not a leader, you're just a Liberal. It's as simple as that.

Victorian Premier, Daniel Andrews.


"The people of this state deserve the schools and hospitals of tomorrow without having to succumb to the blackmail that says only electricity privatisation can pay for it," Mr Foley said.

With polls showing dissatisfaction with the federal Liberal Party, Mr Foley used his speech to underline the similarities between the state and federal governments.

"Liberal cuts from governments in Sydney and Canberra are hurting the people we represent," he told the gathering.

"They mightn't be biting too hard in the district Mr Baird is in today, but out in communities in this state they're suffering from $30 billion of cuts to our schools, TAFEs and hospitals from Mr Baird and his good mate Tony Abbott," Mr Foley said.

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews, who has known Mr Foley for 20 years, was a special guest at the rally, touching down in Sydney for only a few hours.

Mr Andrews said the NSW election provided a choice for voters.

"Now more than ever NSW needs a Labor government and Australia needs another Labor premier at that COAG table," he said.

"I think we need someone in the NSW premier who spends less time standing up beside Tony Abbott on a surfboard and more time standing up to Tony Abbott when he cuts hospitals and schools."

The Victorian leader said voters should not be taken in by Mr Baird's charm.

"My message is very simple today: If you cut hospitals, if you cut schools then you're not a leader, you're just a Liberal. It's as simple as that," Mr Andrews said.

"You can smile a lot, you can even be charming but if you cut the things that matter most to ordinary hard-working families, you're not a nice guy, you're just Mike Baird."

...http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-22/anti-privatisation-rally-sydney-alp-luke-foley/6338770[/quote]

Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Greens_Win on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 2:48pm

Grendel wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 2:32pm:
Actually it's not Jules.
But if Baird gets done it will send a lot of very mixed messages.



More likely the message will be ... conservatives can dump a useless leader OFarrell/Abbott for a useless/popular one, and it will fool enough voters.


Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Julius Abbott on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 3:05pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 2:31pm:
not seen the polls in NSW, have you?  Labor is heading to a massacre, just a bit better than the previous massacre.



Labor's primary vote in the polls is up 11% since the last election. If they can manage 3% more they might win.


The seats of Ballina, Tweed and Lismore are likely to fall to Labor thanks to Alan Jones and CSG.



Quote:
Northern Rivers

The single most interesting zone in the election is the Northern Rivers region just south of the Queensland border, home to three Nationals-held seats: Ballina (24.6%), Tweed (21.7%) and Lismore (24.3%). Ballina and Lismore have been held safely by the Nationals since time immemorial, but Tweed was held by Labor from 1999 to 2007...

...As unassailable as the margins may appear, it’s universally reckoned that a very different set of rules applies at the coming election compared with 2011. Emphasising the extraordinary nature of the 2011 result, fully a quarter of the region’s voters switched from the Coalition to the Labor column at the federal election in September 2013 – this in the context of a poor result for Labor not just nationally but locally, with a 6.7% swing to the Nationals unseating Janelle Saffin in Page.

The specific issue which might cause voting patterns to snap into line with the federal election this time out is coal seam gas exploration, the local backlash against which has caused the government to suspend exploration licences in sensitive areas and promise tougher regulation all round, while deferring much of the important detail until after the election. Labor is purposefully offering a tougher line...

The biggest danger to the Nationals clearly lies in Ballina, where incumbent Don Page will be taking into retirement the personal vote he has built up over 27 years, which makes the 24.6% margin from 2011 particularly deceptive. The electorate encompasses Byron Bay, and has a large green-left constituency living aside the more traditional regional Nationals-voting base, to the extent that the seat might even present an opportunity for the Greens.


Central Coast

It might be anticipated that the work of the Independent Commission Against Corruption will make this region a washout for the Liberals, who are attempting to defend Wyong (4.6%), The Entrance (11.8%) and Gosford (11.9%). The first two seats are being vacated by ICAC casualties Darren Webber and Chris Spence, while Gosford is being defended by the last Liberal standing in the local region, Chris Holstein.

...Labor has made a pitch for the environmental vote by promising to cancel without compensation the $800 million Wallarah 2 coal mine in Wyong, operated by South Korean company Kores. The Liberals promised the mine would not proceed before the 2011 election, but then allowed it to proceed through planning processes that appear likely to conclude shortly with it being granted conditional approval.


Monaro

Quite a lot being written on this seat in south-eastern New South Wales, which appears to be playing out very differently to the aforementioned Nationals seats at the other end of the state. It might have been thought that the seat would be a Labor gimme, and not just because of the slender Nationals margin of 2.0%. Labor up-and-comer Steve Whan is attempting to win back the seat after after losing it to John Barilaro of the Nationals in the 2011 landslide, since which time he has found a place for himself in the Legislative Council, and been rated as a leadership contender after John Robertson’s resignation.

Whan was a notably popular local member, and suffered one of the smallest swings in the state in the course of losing his seat. Furthermore, nearly half of Monaro’s voters live in Queanbeyan, which is essentially a commuter suburb of Canberra. As Mark Coultan of The Australian notes, this gives the electorate the state’s highest proportion of public servants, and a corresponding sensitivity to federal government job cuts. Under similar circumstances at the state election in 1999, Monaro recorded a thumping swing to Labor of 16.0%. Coultan’s report further notes that the electorate is effectively part of the Canberra media market, the news content of which is “all Abbott, all the time” – which, naturally, is bad news for Barilaro...



Sydney’s blue belt

...Rick Wallace of The Australian reported on the growing strength of the Greens in the traditional blue-ribbon seats encompassing expensive real estate near the big cities, naturally making note of the party’s success in winning the seat of Prahran at the Victorian election in November, together with its primary vote of over 20% in Hawthorn.

...a modelling exercise derived from Queensland election trends foreshadowed “large swings to the Left in seats thought to be safe”, including Willoughby, North Shore, Vaucluse and Manly (not to mention Warringah, Wentworth and North Sydney federally, respectively held by Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull and Joe Hockey). As Black sees it, support in these areas is derived from a new strain of Greens voter, “wealthier and more likely to vote on job security than their more earthy peers”.

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2015/03/21/new-south-wales-election-minus-one-week/


Reachtel poll also has Labor capturing the seat of Strathfield in Sydney's west.

Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Julius Abbott on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 3:08pm
Abbott was gagged from speaking today:


Quote:
Prime Minister Tony Abbott was seen but not heard at the NSW Liberal Party's state election campaign launch, which sought to keep the spotlight firmly on the popular Premier Mike Baird.


www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-22/nsw-liberals-launch-campaign-in-sydney/6338646




Smell the fear!

Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Doctor Jolly on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 3:36pm
Smart politics by foley.

Hes set the scene for this election on privatising poles and wires (a private monopoly). And got baird on the defensive.

Niw a week out hes played his trump card... abbott.

Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Karnal on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 4:43pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 3:36pm:
Smart politics by foley.

Hes set the scene for this election on privatising poles and wires (a private monopoly). And got baird on the defensive.

Niw a week out hes played his trump card... abbott.


Pity he hasn't actually got any policies, but there you go.

Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Messenger of God on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 4:49pm

Julius Abbott wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 3:08pm:
Abbott was gagged from speaking today:


Quote:
Prime Minister Tony Abbott was seen but not heard at the NSW Liberal Party's state election campaign launch, which sought to keep the spotlight firmly on the popular Premier Mike Baird.


www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-22/nsw-liberals-launch-campaign-in-sydney/6338646




Smell the fear!


What fear ? The Fear the ALP are imagining. What do you guys smell when he sits down for dinner each night ? Or when he reads a book ?

Maybe he fears books walking, sitting standing and doing the hoola hoop. I bet you guys smell it all. :D :D :D




Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Grendel on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 5:56pm
It's an interesting ploy by Foley and Labor, which could backfire.

If the Libs do well Abbott may get a boost.

They will now certainly be able to claim that.

If the Libs lose Abbott will certainly be looking at the high jump.

How that will go is hard to say just yet.  It will depend on who runs against him.  Unless he steps down.

Personally, I think the Public, those serious about their country and intelligent enough to see through and past the crap...  are looking above all for honesty in their next leader...  Abbott has done his dash there and cashed in all his electoral capital.

Does Shorten actually have any?  Well that's highly debatable.


Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Julius Abbott on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 6:29pm
So how many seats does Labor have to pick up for Abbott to go?

Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 7:17pm
Some of your boofheads seem to foget that when Juliar was PM labor lost virtually every state election election.

miss something, did ya?

Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Greens_Win on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 7:26pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2015 at 7:17pm:
Some of your boofheads seem to foget that when Juliar was PM labor lost virtually every state election election.

miss something, did ya?



We haven't had a p.m called juliar.


https://youtu.be/VN-hbWVXsyE

Title: Re: NSW Referendum On Abbott
Post by Grendel on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 8:04am
But we had one called Julia who was a liar. :D

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