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Message started by Copper-toned-stunt on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 3:19am

Title: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 3:19am
For example:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/27/the-big-melt-antarctica_n_6766290.html

..in then end, nothing!

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by innocentbystander. on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 12:14pm
More hysterical alarmist nonsense, global warming kooks like that should be beamed back to 15th century Peru so they can sacrifice a virgin or two to the Sun God.  ;D

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 4:01pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 12:14pm:
More hysterical alarmist nonsense, global warming kooks like that should be beamed back to 15th century Peru so they can sacrifice a virgin or two to the Sun God.  ;D



SHH don't give them ideas

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by Dnarever on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 4:02pm

Quote:
woeful journalism on anything and everything


At least they excel at something.

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 4:41pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 12:14pm:
More hysterical alarmist nonsense, global warming kooks like that should be beamed back to 15th century Peru so they can sacrifice a virgin or two to the Sun God.  ;D

Funny you should mention  Peru  ::)

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by Old Northern on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 4:43pm
When I saw the title, I thought this was going to be a thread about  the Daily Telegraph.

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by Chimp_Logic on Mar 7th, 2015 at 9:47pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 12:14pm:
More hysterical alarmist nonsense, global warming kooks like that should be beamed back to 15th century Peru so they can sacrifice a virgin or two to the Sun God.  ;D


So you cannot understand a basic scientific fact like Anthropogenic Global warming. Its barely high school level science....

The science that underpins AGW was settled in the late 1980s and first proposed in the 1850s and theoretically described by Arrhenius as early as in the mid 1890s.

In these times, it takes great ignorant political discipline to think otherwise...

But then again there are medical doctors today that dispute the link between smoking tobacco products and cancer.

There are also geologists who believe in a biblically young earth (ie around 6000 years)

So you're not alone 

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by lee on Mar 8th, 2015 at 1:03pm
'The GHG Theory proposed years ago by Arrhenius has been debunked.
He [Arrhenius] believed that space was aether.
He based his GHG Theory on this belief.
He claimed that the aether simulated the glass in a greenhouse and "trapped" heat.
BUT.. the aether belief was debunked by Michelson-Morley, hence the GHG theory is invalid.'

Comment at : http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/climate-science-is-not-yet-settled-on-warming.html

But the earth is not a greenhouse. Water vapour is the most common GHG.

'I’m a professional infrared astronomer who spent his life trying to observe space through the atmosphere’s back-radiation that the environmental activists claim is caused by CO2 and guess what? In all the bands that are responsible for back radiation in the brightness temperatures (color temperatures) related to earth’s surface temperature (between 9 microns and 13 microns for temps of 220K to 320 K) there is no absorption of radiation by CO2 at all. In all the bands between 9 and 9.5 there is mild absorption by H2O, from 9.5 to 10 microns (300 K) the atmosphere is perfectly clear except around 9.6 is a big ozone band that the warmists never mention for some reason. From 10 to 13 microns there is more absorption by H2O. Starting at 13 we get CO2 absorption but that wavelength corresponds to temperatures below even that of the south pole. Nowhere from 9 to 13 microns do we see appreciable absorption bands of CO2. This means the greenhouse effect is way over 95% caused by water vapor and probably less than 3% from CO2.'

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/01/25/ir-expert-speaks-out-after-40-years-of-silence-its-the-water-vapor-stupid-and-not-the-co2/

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by progressiveslol on Mar 8th, 2015 at 4:03pm

lee wrote on Mar 8th, 2015 at 1:03pm:
'The GHG Theory proposed years ago by Arrhenius has been debunked.
He [Arrhenius] believed that space was aether.
He based his GHG Theory on this belief.
He claimed that the aether simulated the glass in a greenhouse and "trapped" heat.
BUT.. the aether belief was debunked by Michelson-Morley, hence the GHG theory is invalid.'

Comment at : http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/climate-science-is-not-yet-settled-on-warming.html

But the earth is not a greenhouse. Water vapour is the most common GHG.

'I’m a professional infrared astronomer who spent his life trying to observe space through the atmosphere’s back-radiation that the environmental activists claim is caused by CO2 and guess what? In all the bands that are responsible for back radiation in the brightness temperatures (color temperatures) related to earth’s surface temperature (between 9 microns and 13 microns for temps of 220K to 320 K) there is no absorption of radiation by CO2 at all. In all the bands between 9 and 9.5 there is mild absorption by H2O, from 9.5 to 10 microns (300 K) the atmosphere is perfectly clear except around 9.6 is a big ozone band that the warmists never mention for some reason. From 10 to 13 microns there is more absorption by H2O. Starting at 13 we get CO2 absorption but that wavelength corresponds to temperatures below even that of the south pole. Nowhere from 9 to 13 microns do we see appreciable absorption bands of CO2. This means the greenhouse effect is way over 95% caused by water vapor and probably less than 3% from CO2.'

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/01/25/ir-expert-speaks-out-after-40-years-of-silence-its-the-water-vapor-stupid-and-not-the-co2/

Nice find Lee. Make you wonder what the pseudo scientist of AGW smoke to give off the fumes to their followers.

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Mar 9th, 2015 at 9:20pm

lee wrote on Mar 8th, 2015 at 1:03pm:
'The GHG Theory proposed years ago by Arrhenius has been debunked.
He [Arrhenius] believed that space was aether.
He based his GHG Theory on this belief.
He claimed that the aether simulated the glass in a greenhouse and "trapped" heat.
BUT.. the aether belief was debunked by Michelson-Morley, hence the GHG theory is invalid.'

Comment at : http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/climate-science-is-not-yet-settled-on-warming.html

But the earth is not a greenhouse. Water vapour is the most common GHG.

'I’m a professional infrared astronomer who spent his life trying to observe space through the atmosphere’s back-radiation that the environmental activists claim is caused by CO2 and guess what? In all the bands that are responsible for back radiation in the brightness temperatures (color temperatures) related to earth’s surface temperature (between 9 microns and 13 microns for temps of 220K to 320 K) there is no absorption of radiation by CO2 at all. In all the bands between 9 and 9.5 there is mild absorption by H2O, from 9.5 to 10 microns (300 K) the atmosphere is perfectly clear except around 9.6 is a big ozone band that the warmists never mention for some reason. From 10 to 13 microns there is more absorption by H2O. Starting at 13 we get CO2 absorption but that wavelength corresponds to temperatures below even that of the south pole. Nowhere from 9 to 13 microns do we see appreciable absorption bands of CO2. This means the greenhouse effect is way over 95% caused by water vapor and probably less than 3% from CO2.'

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/01/25/ir-expert-speaks-out-after-40-years-of-silence-its-the-water-vapor-stupid-and-not-the-co2/

Water vapour is in a cycle: maybe you've heard of it?

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Mar 9th, 2015 at 9:25pm

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 8th, 2015 at 4:03pm:

lee wrote on Mar 8th, 2015 at 1:03pm:
'The GHG Theory proposed years ago by Arrhenius has been debunked.
He [Arrhenius] believed that space was aether.
He based his GHG Theory on this belief.
He claimed that the aether simulated the glass in a greenhouse and "trapped" heat.
BUT.. the aether belief was debunked by Michelson-Morley, hence the GHG theory is invalid.'

Comment at : http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/climate-science-is-not-yet-settled-on-warming.html

But the earth is not a greenhouse. Water vapour is the most common GHG.

'I’m a professional infrared astronomer who spent his life trying to observe space through the atmosphere’s back-radiation that the environmental activists claim is caused by CO2 and guess what? In all the bands that are responsible for back radiation in the brightness temperatures (color temperatures) related to earth’s surface temperature (between 9 microns and 13 microns for temps of 220K to 320 K) there is no absorption of radiation by CO2 at all. In all the bands between 9 and 9.5 there is mild absorption by H2O, from 9.5 to 10 microns (300 K) the atmosphere is perfectly clear except around 9.6 is a big ozone band that the warmists never mention for some reason. From 10 to 13 microns there is more absorption by H2O. Starting at 13 we get CO2 absorption but that wavelength corresponds to temperatures below even that of the south pole. Nowhere from 9 to 13 microns do we see appreciable absorption bands of CO2. This means the greenhouse effect is way over 95% caused by water vapor and probably less than 3% from CO2.'

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/01/25/ir-expert-speaks-out-after-40-years-of-silence-its-the-water-vapor-stupid-and-not-the-co2/

Nice find Lee. Make you wonder what the pseudo scientist of AGW smoke to give off the fumes to their followers.

Water vapour is in a cycle: perhaps you have heard of it or do you really hate my kids that much??

I KNOW YOU DO  :o :o

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by lee on Mar 10th, 2015 at 5:25pm
Seeing as Co2 has been both higher and lower in the past it could be argued that Co2 is in a cycle.

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:18am

lee wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 5:25pm:
Seeing as Co2 has been both higher and lower in the past it could be argued that Co2 is in a cycle.

LOL, let's forget about the industrial age shall we  :o :o

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by lee on Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:01pm
So what caused the CO2 spike pre-industrial era?

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:26pm

lee wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:01pm:
So what caused the CO2 spike pre-industrial era?

Does it matter?

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by Chimp_Logic on Mar 13th, 2015 at 3:02am
Where are the predictive models that show cooling as CO2 concentration increases in the earths atmosphere?

Found any articles yet?

You freak deniers are an embarrassment to intelligence and your cruel hatred of children is on show.

Freaks the lot of you

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by lee on Mar 13th, 2015 at 10:07am
Where is the CO2 predictive model that has been proven correct?

Title: Re: * woeful journalism on anything and everything
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Mar 13th, 2015 at 1:24pm

lee wrote on Mar 13th, 2015 at 10:07am:
Where is the CO2 predictive model that has been proven correct?

Nothing is ever proven in science: it's called NULL HYPOTHESIS!

Are we going to do another billion word circle jerk on the uncertainty principle? I love these things  :D :D

Fact 1- In court when scientific evidence is presented it is associated with an error value!

Fact 2- Judges exist because error exists!!

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