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Message started by Sprintcyclist on Mar 1st, 2015 at 7:21pm

Title: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 1st, 2015 at 7:21pm

Hi lighty, please do not post anything on this thread.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Mohammed on Mar 1st, 2015 at 8:58pm
Dole bludgers that live off community aid pretending to be spiritual gods and taking donations made on clear BS should be either be charged with fraud or forced into a training scheme of some sort to get a trade or a qualification in some field.

There are too many bludgers sitting on their fat asses running BS scams to rip people off and make a buck and ruining the lives of poor innocent naive people who truly are seeking the right spiritual path.

The lightworker scam is one of these. Peddling nonsensical BS to the masses and the naive. What an evil person you would have to be to do such a thing.

Preying on the weak selling them useless pyramids made of copper and telling them it will help them along if they sit in their backyard in full view of their neighbours looking like an utter fool.

Sure the gullible will go for it but the responsibility lies with the more sane members of society to stop this rort.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Mohammed on Mar 1st, 2015 at 9:50pm
This post is not for Christians you should all know better than to be deceived by Lucifers crap!!!!!!!! For the rest of you 1 million and something fools that believe this "I am love and Light nonsense", you have been deceived.

Lucifer has got a whole bunch of you idiots very deceived. Ive been watching these fallen angels disguised as light for years and now when i check out their laughable ashtar star command web site, they are saying that they must change their name to some other lie because people think they are part of the alien agenda and they don't want to be part of the big alien lie!!! LOL

If any of you ever bother to read the book of Enoch you would see the names of all the fallen angels that now are still using the same names, just as light workers instead of the fallen angels that they are. Do you think JESUS would ever say "I need to change my name so I'm not accused of being a Jew" or anything else hes accused of, so why all of a sudden these light workers are scared???????

Because they know the LORD and they now they have deceived millions and they know JESUS is gonna throw them and their fake light and fake love (give me $150 and i clean your chakras garbage) straight into the pit of hell!!!! and every time you channel you are allowing demons to invade your body!!!!!!! WAKE UP YOU SLEEPERS!!! and ask your self why is that fallen angel ashter RUNNING and HIDING if he was really Christ and light then what the HELL is he so scared for, Whats your alien king so worried about?????

Jesus the REAL CHRIST is about to expose these demons (angels of the so called light) and they know it these ass holes are exposed as DEMONS, fallen angels !!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 1st, 2015 at 9:55pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 7:21pm:
Hi lighty, please do not post anything on this thread.



master Light follows the example of John -
yet he is not welcome on your christian thread.

forgiven

namaste



John 1


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[6] There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
[7] The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
[8] He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
[9] That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.


Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Mohammed on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:07pm
John 1:6

There was a man sent from God whose name was John.

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The Light being Jesus Christ and that through Jesus Christ all might believe.

God is pleased to speak to us by men like ourselves. John was a great man, but he was a man, a son of man; he was sent from God, he was God’s messenger, so he is called, Mal. 3:1. God gave him both his mission and his message, both his credentials and his instructions. John wrought no miracle, nor do we find that he had visions and revelations; but the strictness and purity of his life and doctrine, and the direct tendency of both to reform the world, and to revive the interests of God’s kingdom among men, were plain indications that he was sent of God.


Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Mohammed on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:11pm
John 1:7

He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe.

We are here told what his office and business were (John 1:7): The same came for a witness, an eye-witness, a leading witness. He came eis martyrian—for a testimony. The legal institutions had been long a testimony for God in the Jewish church. By them revealed religion was kept up; hence we read of the tabernacle of the testimony, the ark of the testimony, the law and the testimony: but now divine revelation is to be turned into another channel; now the testimony of Christ is the testimony of God, 1 Cor. 1:6; 2:1. Among the Gentiles, God indeed had not left himself without witness (Acts 14:17), but the Redeemer had no testimonies borne him among them. There was a profound silence concerning him, till John Baptist came for a witness to him. Now observe, (1.)

The matter of his testimony: He came to bear witness to the light. Light is a thing which witnesses for itself, and carries its own evidence along with it; but to those who shut their eyes against the light it is necessary there should be those that bear witness to it. Christ’s light needs not man’s testimony, but the world’s darkness does. John was like the night watchman that goes round the town, proclaiming the approach of the morning light to those that have closed their eyes, and are not willing themselves to observe it; or like that watchman that was set to tell those who asked him what of the night that the morning comes, and, if you will enquire, enquire ye, Isa. 21:11, 12.

He was sent of God to tell the world that the long-looked-for Messiah was now come, who should be a light to enlighten the Gentiles and the glory of his people Israel; and to proclaim that dispensation at hand which would bring life and immortality to light. (2.) The design of his testimony: That all men through him might believe; not in him, but in Christ, whose way he was sent to prepare. He taught men to look through him, and pass through him, to Christ; through the doctrine of repentance for sin to that of faith in Christ.

He prepared men for the reception and entertainment of Christ and his gospel, by awakening them to a sight and sense of sin; and that, their eyes being thereby opened, they might be ready to admit those beams of divine light which, in the person and doctrine of the Messiah, were now ready to shine in their faces. If they would but receive this witness of man, they would soon find that the witness of God was greater, 1 John 5:9. See John 10:41. Observe, it was designed that all men through him might believe, excluding none from the kind and beneficial influences of his ministry that did not exclude themselves, as multitudes did, who rejected the counsel of God against themselves, and so received the grace of God in vain.

John was NOT an angel or reincarnation or some other spirit.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:11pm
John 8


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[12] Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying,

I am the light of the world:

he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.



John 3


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[19] And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
[20] For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
[21] But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:13pm
And so the thread with no light has become full of light.

namaste

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Mohammed on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:14pm
John 1: 8

He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.

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We are here cautioned not to mistake him for the light who only came to bear witness to it (John 1:8): He was not that light that was expected and promised, but only was sent to bear witness of that great and ruling light. He was a star, like that which guided the wise men to Christ, a morning star; but he was not the Sun; not the Bridegroom, but a friend of the Bridegroom; not the Prince, but his harbinger. There were those who rested in John’s baptism, and looked no further, as those Ephesians, Acts 19:3.

To rectify this mistake, the evangelist here, when he speaks very honorably of him, yet shows that he must give place to Christ. He was great as the prophet of the Highest, but not the Highest himself. Note, We must take heed of over-valuing ministers, as well as of under-valuing them; they are not our lords, nor have they dominion over our faith, but ministers by whom we believe, stewards of our Lord’s house. We must not give up ourselves by an implicit faith to their conduct, for they are not that light; but we must attend to, and receive, their testimony; for they are sent to bear witness of that light; so then let us esteem them, and not otherwise.

Had John pretended to be that light he had not been so much as a faithful witness of that light. Those who usurp the honor of Christ forfeit the honor of being the servants of Christ; yet John was very serviceable as a witness to the light, though he was not that light. Those may be of great use to us who yet shine with a borrowed light.

II. Before he goes on with John’s testimony, he returns to give us a further account of this Jesus to whom John bore record. Having shown in the beginning of the chapter the glories of his Godhead, he here comes to show the graces of his incarnation, and his favors to man as Mediator.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Mohammed on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:16pm
John 1: 9

The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world.

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Christ was the true Light (John 1:9); not as if John Baptist were a false light, but, in comparison with Christ, he was a very small light. Christ is the great light that deserves to be called so. Other lights are but figuratively and equivocally called so: Christ is the true light. The fountain of all knowledge and of all comfort must needs be the true light. He is the true light, for proof of which we are not referred to the emanations of his glory in the invisible world (the beams with which he enlightens that), but to those rays of his light which are darted downwards, and with which this dark world of ours is enlightened.

But how does Christ enlighten every man that comes into the world? (1.) By his creating power he enlightens every man with the light of reason; that life which is the light of men is from him; all the discoveries and directions of reason, all the comfort it gives us, and all the beauty it puts upon us, are from Christ. (2.) By the publication of his gospel to all nations he does in effect enlighten every man. John Baptist was a light, but he enlightened only Jerusalem and Judea, and the region round about Jordan, like a candle that enlightens one room; but Christ is the true light, for he is a light to enlighten the Gentiles.


His everlasting gospel is to be preached to every nation and language, Rev. 14:6. Like the sun which enlightens every man that will open his eyes, and receive its light (Ps. 19:6), to which the preaching of the gospel is compared. See Rom. 10:18. Divine revelation is not now to be confined, as it had been, to one people, but to be diffused to all people, Matt. 5:15. (3.) By the operation of his Spirit and grace he enlightens all those that are enlightened to salvation; and those that are not enlightened by him perish in darkness.

The light of the knowledge of the glory of God is said to be in the face of Jesus Christ, and is compared with that light which was at the beginning commanded to shine out of darkness, and which enlightens every man that comes into the world. Whatever light any man has, he is indebted to Christ for it, whether it be natural or supernatural.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Mohammed on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:20pm
You said "master Light follows the example of John -
yet he is not welcome on your christian thread."

Clearly he does NOT.

Given the false teacher Marty aka (It is the light) does NOT teach the gospel message as taught by the one TRUE LIGHT JESUS CHRIST and John then he is a false teacher. He does not teach Salvation through the forgiveness of Sins through Jesus Christ and the acceptance of Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior.

Jesus NEVER taught the false doctrine of Indian Chakras nor did he build Copper Pyramids. In fact the Egyptians were looked upon as having FALSE God's.

Marty has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christs Light of REAL Salvation.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:25pm

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 8:58pm:
Dole bludgers that live off community aid pretending to be spiritual gods and taking donations made on clear BS should be either be charged with fraud or forced into a training scheme of some sort to get a trade or a qualification in some field.

There are too many bludgers sitting on their fat asses running BS scams to rip people off and make a buck and ruining the lives of poor innocent naive people who truly are seeking the right spiritual path.

The lightworker scam is one of these. Peddling nonsensical BS to the masses and the naive. What an evil person you would have to be to do such a thing.

Preying on the weak selling them useless pyramids made of copper and telling them it will help them along if they sit in their backyard in full view of their neighbours looking like an utter fool.

Sure the gullible will go for it but the responsibility lies with the more sane members of society to stop this rort.



1 John


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[9] He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

[10] He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.



Mohammad - you walk in darkness.

forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by issuevoter on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:26pm
Hey, I got a great idea for the forum. Lets all post meaningless twaddle from ancient scriptures. Look at all the blessings and forgiveness we will get.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Mohammed on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:33pm
Yet I never said I hate my brother. When you have salvation through Jesus Christ then and only then will you have the light that you seek in your heart Bobby.

Jesus also said will not the blind following the blind fall into a ditch. That would be you and Marty. Did Jesus not say don't judge others (like you do) lest yea be judged but reprove your brother. Don't confuse reprove with judging your brother.

Namaste also has nothing to do with Jesus Christ nor Christianity. Another blind teaching you have been given. It is a form of greeting commonly found among Hindus of the Indian Subcontinent, in some Southeast Asian countries.

Are you trying to appear to be Hindu or come from one of these places. Why not say God Bless instead in case someone reading you thinks you are Hindi.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:35pm

issuevoter wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:26pm:
Hey, I got a great idea for the forum. Lets all post meaningless twaddle from ancient scriptures. Look at all the blessings and forgiveness we will get.



You dare to question the light of the world?

forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:39pm

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:33pm:
Yet I never said I hate my brother. When you have salvation through Jesus Christ then and only then will you have the light that you seek in your heart Bobby.

Jesus also said will not the blind following the blind fall into a ditch. That would be you and Marty. Did Jesus not say don't judge others (like you do) lest yea be judged but reprove your brother. Don't confuse reprove with judging your brother.

Namaste also has nothing to do with Jesus Christ nor Christianity. Another blind teaching you have been given. It is a form of greeting commonly found among Hindus of the Indian Subcontinent, in some Southeast Asian countries.

Are you trying to appear to be Hindu or come from one of these places. Why not say God Bless instead in case someone reading you thinks you are Hindi.



master Light borrows from all spiritual people:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrPAT_QLFwM

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Mohammed on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:49pm
Therefore in your own words marty is a false teacher then because not all spiritual leaders are teachers of the one true Light being Salvation through Jesus Christ.

Why would he draw from Indian religions and then associate that with the one True Light of Christ. The two are totally opposite. Being a false teacher he invents it as he goes. Being a so called light worker affords him a community of support when in fact Jesus said the road would extremely narrow and only a FEW would find it and travel along it. He also said in the last days the wood would be dry given what was happening to Him when he was crucified.

So your light isn't exactly adhering to the standards he appears to be upholding. In fact Jesus said many will come in My name, false prophets and wolves in sheeps clothing, DO NOT believe them. For they will say unto you here is the christ or there he is DO NOT BELIEVE them.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:58pm

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:49pm:
Therefore in your own words marty is a false teacher then because not all spiritual leaders are teachers of the one true Light being Salvation through Jesus Christ.

Why would he draw from Indian religions and then associate that with the one True Light of Christ. The two are totally opposite. Being a false teacher he invents it as he goes. Being a so called light worker affords him a community of support when in fact Jesus said the road would extremely narrow and only a FEW would find it and travel along it. He also said in the last days the wood would be dry given what was happening to Him when he was crucified.

So your light isn't exactly adhering to the standards he appears to be upholding. In fact Jesus said many will come in My name, false prophets and wolves in sheeps clothing, DO NOT believe them. For they will say unto you here is the christ or there he is DO NOT BELIEVE them.



Can a Hindu not be wise?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ7ZvPghdy8

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Mohammed on Mar 1st, 2015 at 11:05pm
If you are referring to the Hindu religious identity then no. Hinduism is a false religion according to Jesus Christ the One True light. Why would you base your spirituality on the spiritually dead. Would a false religion appear wise, of course.

Jesus himself said in the last days a great deception will fall on mankind as to even deceive the elect. So be on your guard they appear as angels and come as wolves in sheep's clothing. Even if an Angel stands before you and says I am He DO NOT believe him.

Why not rather see the filling up of your being with the Holy Spirit God's own Spirit and meditate on His Word and let Him teach you within your own being. His Spirit entwined with yours, rather than listen to some man from another religion that follows many many gods ? or copper pyramids for that matter.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Chimp_Logic on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 12:20am
.....do we dismiss everything and everyone before Christ?

What is God?

Why did he need a son?

Why did he allow his execution?

Was Jesus armed at the last supper?

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:04am

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 11:05pm:
If you are referring to the Hindu religious identity then no. Hinduism is a false religion according to Jesus Christ the One True light. Why would you base your spirituality on the spiritually dead. Would a false religion appear wise, of course.

Jesus himself said in the last days a great deception will fall on mankind as to even deceive the elect. So be on your guard they appear as angels and come as wolves in sheep's clothing. Even if an Angel stands before you and says I am He DO NOT believe him.

Why not rather see the filling up of your being with the Holy Spirit God's own Spirit and meditate on His Word and let Him teach you within your own being. His Spirit entwined with yours, rather than listen to some man from another religion that follows many many gods ? or copper pyramids for that matter.



Sir master Light has borrowed ideas from many wise men.

There is nothing wrong with that.

Everyone has that right.

you are forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:15am

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 12:20am:
.....do we dismiss everything and everyone before Christ?

What is God?

Why did he need a son?

Why did he allow his execution?

Was Jesus armed at the last supper?





Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
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Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 1:16pm

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Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by PZ547 on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 1:19pm

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Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by PZ547 on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 1:21pm



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I would challenge Hitler to shoot me or cast me into the dungeon,” Gandhi wrote in his article. “I would not wait for fellow Jews to join me"

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by PZ547 on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 1:24pm
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Ghandhi was a fraud

a plant

a tool




Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by PZ547 on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 1:42pm
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Gandhi rejected essential human ideals that all are created equal with right to life and liberty.

He spread racial hatred in South Africa. He told an Indian audience black Africans are “raw Kaffir[s] whose sole ambition is to… pass his life in indolence and nakedness.” He pioneered racial segregation at the Durban Post Office by demanding a third door to spare upper-caste Indians “indignity” of sharing a door with blacks. He pushed for war against Zulus and volunteered in the British Army to kill blacks.

He insulted human dignity in India. He raped his underage grandnieces, Manu and Abha, for years. He defended the caste system, praising its “fundamental divisions.” He spread violence against non-Hindus.

America, say no to Gandhi, a five-time Nobel Peace Prize reject
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Sponsors hope to gather 100,000 online signatures by March 12 to compel the White House to reassess the upper-caste Hindu leader, who President Obama has called “an inspiration.”

“Gandhi spewed racism against Africans, promoted segregation in pre-apartheid South Africa, fought in a colonial British war to kill blacks, and then returned to India to spread caste division among his own people,” said Arvin Valmuci, Communications Director of Organization for Minorities of India (OFMI), a group sponsoring the petition. “Foundational to his anti-human philosophy was commitment to varnashrama, the system that has poisoned Indian culture with division and discrimination for thousands of years.”

Obama has frequently adored Gandhi. In 2008, when asked with whom he would like to dine, dead or alive, he chose Gandhi. Later, he claimed Gandhi’s “spirit and example… extinguished apartheid in South Africa.” The petition offers a completely opposite perspective, insisting Gandhi perpetrated apartheid first in South Africa and then in his home country of India.

“Gandhi was a staunch believer in Varnashrama Dharma, the religious caste system of the Hindus,” said Dr. Muni Subramani, International Human Rights Relations Advisor to OFMI. “Every action he took to oppress blacks in Africa, Dalits in India, and divide the societies of the world sprung from his love for the violence of the caste system. This system is thousands of years old, it is ten thousand times worse than segregation in America ever was, and it still stands strong. Gandhi’s absurd defense of caste as ‘scientific’ was an unsurpassed evil against the most vulnerable people in South Asia, so we ask President Obama to reject Gandhi as a charlatan.”

Dr. Subramani and Valmuci pointed to Gandhi’s own words as proof he was devoted to caste. In 1921, for instance, he declared: “I am certainly against any attempt at destroying the fundamental divisions. The caste system is not based on inequality.” Then, in 1920, he said: “I believe that one acquires one’s caste by birth. One who is born in a Brahmin family dies a Brahmin.”

One of Gandhi’s strongest statements defending caste was in 1933, when he said: “The caste system, in my opinion, has a scientific basis. Reason does not revolt against it…. Caste creates a social and moral restraint — I can find no reason for their abolition. To abolish caste is to demolish Hinduism. There is nothing to fight against the Varnasharma. I don’t believe the caste system to be an odious and vicious dogma…. There is nothing sinful about it.”

“By defending the caste system, Gandhi practiced untouchability,” said Dr. Subramani. “It is only logical. If you say there are four levels of human beings, then one level will always be at the top and one will always be at the bottom. Caste system teaches that men are born unequal and pits one group against another to create a chaotic, discriminatory society. Gandhi tried to hoodwink Indians to think you can have caste without untouchability, but the truth is one can’t eat his cake and have it too. If we are too eliminate untouchability, we must first eliminate caste, and President Obama can play a part.”

India has 1.2 billion people and at least 20% — or 250 million — are Dalit. Known by this name which means “broken” or “oppressed,” the Dalit are the largest and most historically oppressed group in history. They reject the caste system, so Hindus consider them outside the four levels of caste. Hindus call them outcaste and treat them as untouchables.

Cultural discrimination against Dalits is everywhere in India. Most live in poverty. They are forbidden to eat or drink with caste Hindus and are often abused or beaten for violating religious and cultural practices that segregate them from the rest of society. Many are enslaved or forced into prostitution. Stories of Dalit rapes and the Indian state’s failure to prosecute the abusers are rampant.

Valmuci said: “Laws prohibiting untouchability were enshrined in India’s Constitution by Dr. B. R. Ambedkar, the country’s first Law Minister and a renowned humanitarian, but caste discrimination remains an ingrained cultural practice. Dr. Ambedkar, in his attempts to liberate the Dalit, was often undermined by Gandhi, especially at the Round Table Conference in London. Gandhi seized every opportunity to uphold caste. This is why Dr. Ambedkar said: ‘If a man with God’s name on his tongue and sword under his armpit deserved the appellation of a Mahatma, then Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi was a Mahatma[/quote[quote] Be part in the taking down of that racist fakir’s legend


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Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by PZ547 on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 2:14pm
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Chapter & Verse re: the great Gandhi  (some, at least)


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PERSONAL FAILURE:

*“We know from his autobiography how shamefully he treated his wife. He was transparently honest and he had much less to hide from anyone else. Nothing can be found if other public figures are to be scrutinized because things have been carefully hidden and suppressed.” Gandhi, the family man

*Gandhi used to beat his wife up routinely.

*Gandhi was having sex when his father lay breathing his last upstairs.

*Gandhi denied sex to his wife for decades

*Gandhi was an adulterer and had a spiritual marriage with two British women who were in the Ashram

*Gandhi slept naked with his niece and other women to prove that he could control his manliness.

*Gandhi would do enemas twice a day and if he liked you allowed you to enter the piece up his rectum.

*Gandhi son left him and converted to Islam

*Gandhi was a total failure in South Africa where he tried to stratify the society, Whites, Indians and Africans

*The Indian government contributed $10 million for the movie Gandhi. It is based on a book of fiction called “Freedom at Midnight” by Collins et al. You can see glossed over failures and the perversion in the movie Gandhi but it is not overt and explicitly shown. You have to be smart and familiar with the history to see it embedded in the movie



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THE ORIGINS OF THE “MAHATMA” MONIKER: EVANGALIST GOALS OF MISSIONARIES IN THE SUBCONTINENT

Mr. Mohandas Gandhi was converted into a “Mahatma” under the auspicies of the British in South Africa. Its genesis was started by the white Christian clergy. Rev. Joseph J. Doke, a Baptist Minster was the first to write the biography of M. K. Gandhi.

What started as a ploy became an avalanche under a well planned scheme. Pastor John H. Holmes, a Unitarian ”priest” from New York praised Gandhi in his writings and sermons with titles like:
“Gandhi: The Modern Christ”,
“Mahatma Gandhi: The Greatest Man since Jesus Christ”,
“Mahatma Ji: Reincarnation of Christ”and
“Gandhi before Pilate.”


Romain Rolland, the French Nobel Laureate in literature thought of Gandhi not only as a Hindu saint, but also “another Christ”. He wrote Gandhi’s new biography in French which poured praise on the the diety— “Gandhi is the One Luminous, Creator of All,” “Mahatma.”

At this juncture the Nehru-Gandhi loyalist Hindus were brought in. Muslims and others from the Subcontinent were left aghast when Krishnalal Shridharni elevated Gandhi to the status of twentieth century Hindu god




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The Colonial rulers thought that by elevating Gandhi to a 20th century messiah and then converting him would open the flood gate for evangelizing and converting the Hindu and masses. However Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi was not Emperor Constantine, and was unable to fulfill the wishes of the colonian masters


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GANDHI GETS CAUGHT WITH HIS PANTS DOWN:-LITERALLY



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POLITICAL FAILURE OF GANDHI




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GANDHI WAS “CREATED” TO USE THE SOUTH AFRICANS IN THE BRITISH WARS




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GANDHI WAS A TOTAL FAILURE IN SOUTH AFRICA




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GANDHI WAS IMPORTED TO THE SUBCONTINENT BY THE BRITISH

Gandhi’s arrival in India was a carefully planned and crafted scheme to get rid of the Muslim leadership in the Indian National Congress. Some of the biggest millionaires in India devised a marketing plan to construct a leader for a superstitious, illiterate and colonized people. Gandhi was the perfect candidate




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MR GANDHI INTRODUCED RELIGIOUS SYMBOLISM INTO THE SUBCONTINENTAL POLITICS: THIS LED TO THE ALIENATION OF MUSLIMS ETC




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SCHEME TO DETHRONE THE MUSLIMS FROM THE CORRIDORS OF POWER




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GANDHI WAS A FAILURE IN THE SUBCONTIENT




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THE NON-VIOLENCE SLOGAN WAS FOR THE SAKE OF THE BRITISH RULERS


The “Non Violence” theme in the Subcontient was a great marketing ploy of Mr. Nehru and Mr. Gandhi. Gandhis sole contribution to history was to make 150 million Muslims of India subservient to the Hindus
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Source: Mohandas by Gandhi’s grandson, In Search of Truth by Mohandas Gandhi, Freedom at Midnight by Le Pierre (screen play for the movie Gandhi).
Mohandas– a true story of a man, his people and an empire, on Mahatma Gandhi” by former Parliamentarian and writer Mr. Rajmohan Gandhi


[quote]Gandhi’s Girls

“The man in the loin cloth, it seems, has thought a good deal about loins,’ said one observer




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Instead, Gandhi with his back against the proverbial wall reached deep into his bag of tricks and, like a cat with nine lives, pulled yet another rabbit from his hat: a hunger strike. Over the course of a fifty-year career, Gandhi had turned this familiar strategy into a crowd pleaser that could move the masses or pummel an Empire


a long read


http://moinansari.blogspot.com.au/2008/02/sex-antics-of-mohandas-gandhi-his.html





Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by PZ547 on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 2:28pm
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Gandhi just went to South Africa for earn money and name, because in India he could not do well.  In 1893, he accepted contract job and save Dada Abdulla & Co, whose business was smuggling and he charged very much for this


Comes complete with photo




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In 1932 Gandhi collected one crore and 30 lakhs of rupees in the name of “Tilak Swaraj Fund”, for the extermination of the untouchables. However, only two lakhs for 60 million untouchables used, but only 43,381 rupees were actually spent.

Ref :

DR BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR WRITINGS AND SPEECHES Vol 9. What Congress and Gandhi have done to the Untouchables. ps 17- 39

Dr MURUGU DORAI, “Ambethkar kaappiyam”, Epic (Tamil) of Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar’s Biography, Part 2, ps 221-222


Complete with photos of headlines of the day




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In his whole life Gandhi said that he was creed of ‘Ahimsa’ (Non Violence). However, he initially favoured British for World War II without consultation of congressional leaders and representatives. And sends Indian army as alias and fight for England


Again, with photo





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Gandhi advised everyone to live a simple life, however when he was in Jail there were three women to serve him


Photo





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In 1938, Subhas Chandra Bose elected as Congress president – despite Gandhi’s opposition. Later Gandhi went on hunger strike until Bose leave his post. Gandhi promised to British government that handover Subhas Chandra Bose at the time of independence


Photo




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Gandhi keep on saying that he is trying to save Bhagat Singh. However, the untold truth was Gandhi never contacted Viceroy about Bhagat Singh issue. An Indian revolutionary writer and author MANMATH NATH talk about these in his writings. Gandhi feared that threat to his leadership and about popularity of Bhagat Singh in the independence movement would be reasons want him hang




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Often Gandhi said that if the Pakistan would made it will only happen after his death. However, Gandhi who signed 1st on the proposal of partitioning India




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Gandhi did not open a single door of a Hindu temple in Gujarat for the UNTOUCHABLES




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As all you know that Gandhi as a revolution air, but once he said “I have come here on earth to fulfill the laws of caste”, but how can true revolution air Gandhi think about caste system. A person such as never thinks according to caste, not according to rich, poor etc


Many photos


http://storyglitz.com/unknown-facts-about-mahatma-gandhi-that-you-need-to-know/


[quote]

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by PZ547 on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 2:33pm

From an Indian chat-room comments: 'Little Known Dark Side of Mahatma Gandhi'



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Biggest hoax and fraud in India ~ worshipping of a coterie backroom dictatorial blackmailer




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A very disgusting ugly person, a bisexual, liar, hypocrite, agent of the British, used to live on handouts from Birla and Bajaj, anti~Hindu, used to reserve the whole train to travel in the Third Class, used to live in air~conditioned slum




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Gandhi was a British agent. He was imported in India by Sir Gokhle who got his Knighthood by turning The Congress into a pro~British party after a great struggle with Tilak, Aurobindo Ghosh, Bipin Pal, Lajpat Rai.
Gandhi"s first Satyagraha was to reestablish the Turkish Sultan, it has nothing to do with the Independence movement.
Gandhi"s second Satyagraha lasted only 5 days in 1931.
Gandhi"s third Satyagraha lasted only 4 days in 1942. He has disassociated himself from the August Movement of 1942.
In the meantime he had expelled everyone who wanted to fight for Independence.
British refused to negotiate with anyone but with the British agents like Gandhi, Ambedkar, Jinnah. This is the reason we got Partition and death and destitutions and no toilets. Gandhi used to go to the bushes



http://forum.ivarta.com/Little-Known-Dark-Side-Mahatma-Gandhi/700671.htm

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by PZ547 on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 2:44pm
Well this is interesting, isn't it ?



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Hindu origin of Judaism




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Hindu origin of Judaism: Jews are Hindu Brahmins 3,743 BCE



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"In his History of the Jews, the Jewish scholar and theologian Flavius Josephus (37 - 100 A.D.), wrote that the Greek philosopher Aristotle had said: “...These Jews are derived from the Indian philosophers; they are named by the Indians Calani.”

Clearchus of Soli (a pupil of Aristotle) wrote, “The Jews descend from the Brahmin philosophers of India called in India as Calanians & in Syria as Jews. The name of their capital is very difficult to pronounce. It is called ‘Jerusalem.’”

Megasthenes, a Greek historian from Ionia, was sent by the Hellenistic king Seleucus I as an ambassador to the court of King Chandragupta Maurya in India. His report about the culture, history & religion ofIndia was the basis of Western knowledge about India& whose accounts are every day acquiring additional credit from new inquiries, says that the Jews ‘were an Indian tribe or sect called Kalani...’”

Shiva is preserved in the Hebrew Genesis as chavvah ( = eve ) ( “life-giver” ) as the female life together with the Hebrew chayim ("Life"). The Jews alias Judaists alias Zionists are the Yadu people of the clan of Lord Krishna who had to migrate from the Dwarka Kingdom after the Mahabharat war


Of the 22 tribes that left the region in quick succession, the 10 that proceded North met with disaster & perished. Out of the remaining 12 a few families dropped off & settled down in regions currently known as Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Egypt, Greece and Russia.


One of their monarchs was Solomon.  " That India was the point when came the gold & the luxurious appliances of Solomon's court is clear; both the length of the voyage, the nature of the commercial imports and the original land of the Phoenician's establish this fact. It was a coasting voyage of 3 years." India in Greece, by E. Pococke

Pococke adds: " When Judah did evil in the sight of the Lord, and built them high places, and images, and goves, on every high hill, and under every tree, the object was Bal; and the pillar was his symbol. It was on this altar that they burned incense, and sacrificed the calf on the 15th day of the month, the sacred amavas of the Hindus. The calf of Israel is the bull of Balesar or Ishwar." The Bal alias Balesar is Balkrishna alias Baleshwar, i.e., the Divine Child Krishna.

The name Solomon is a Sanskrit term. The great poet Kalidas describes King Dushyant as ' Shalmanav,' i.e., a tall, hefty person with an impressive personality. The term Solomon is that Sanskrit word with the vowel " a rounded in pronunciation as " O ".The Golden Calf

The image of the golden calf which one often hears of in the history of the Jews was the calf which Lord Krishna leaned against when he used to play the flute while grazing cows. At that age, Lord Krishna was tall enough to lean only against a calf and not a cow.

The Jewish Emblem : The so-called Jewish Star of David which is the emblem of the Jews is a Tantric, Vedic symbol that is worshiping the reunion of man & wife.. It consists of 2 interlocked triangles with the apex of one facing North & the other South. This symbol is drawn in front of every orthodox Hindu home in stone-powder design every morning after the house is washed. The desing/drawing is known as Rangawali alias Rongoli. Even its name David is the Sanskrit word Devi, i.e., " bestowed by the Mother Goddess." The so-called Humayun tomb building in Delhi, which was a Goddess temple, is inlaid with those emblems on the exterior, upper portions of its walls.  The symbol & the hidden meaning from Hinduism of this symbol was known by teachers of the Jewish mysticism and has found over them its way to the present Jewish culture.

The birth story of Moses is identical with that of Lord Krishna. Even the term Moses is the Sanskrit word Mahesh meaning the Great Lord, i.e., Krishna Galilee. The term Galilee is the Sanskrit term Gawalaya, i.e., the sanctuary of cows belonging to Nanda in whose farmstead Krishna was nurtured to adulthood. Similarly, Narazeth is Nadrath ( Nanda's Chariot ) & Bethlehem is Vatsaldham, meaning the home of the Darling Child.

Jerusalem, the chief city of the Israeli community, is appropriately named after Lord Krishna. The original name of that city is Yerusaleim. In popular parlance " J " often replaces " Y ". Therefore, Yerusaleim came to be pronounced as Jerusalem. The term Yerusaleim is the Sanskrit term Yedu Ishalayam, meaning the temple & township of Lord Krishna




Well I didn't know that

Did you ?


It's a keeper



http://www.vedichindutva.com/fraud-jews.html


Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Dnarever on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 2:45pm

Quote:
"It is the light" free thread


Turn the light off.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Dnarever on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 2:47pm
The Light should have posted OK.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by PZ547 on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 3:09pm
Hinduism and Judaism

Theological similarities



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Judaism has been compared with Brahminism by Osho Rajneesh[5] and Steven Rosen in their books. They cite the similarities between Brahmins and Jews who viewed themselves as "God's chosen people." Rosen adds that Brahmins had a "community of priests" while Jews had a "Kingdom of Priests".[6]

David Flusser says that the tale of Abraham has many similarities with a certain story from the Upanishads, stating that "One can easily discover parallels in the Upanishads to the Abraham legend".[7][8]

American biologist Constantine Samuel Rafinesque in his book The American nations; or: discusses linguistic and traditional similarities between the two religions. In one chapter he writes:


"Our Noah- is thus NH (pr NOE) which the Jews since pronounced NUH, and even Mnuh ! Exactly the same name as given him by the Hindus!

And all meaning repose, with many collateral meanings, lawgiver, collecting people, assembly humanity & c. The laws of M'nu are preserved by the Hindus : to him is also ascribed the substance of the Vedas, and the whole Mosaic history till near his own death. But the Hindus have many- M'nus ; Adam and Seth were such, by the names of Adimo and Satya


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_and_Judaism




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Ancient trade and cultural communication between India and the Levant is documented in the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea and the accounts surrounding Queen of Sheba in the Hebrew Bible.

Bhavishya Purana is regarded by a number of scholars to have predicted Judaism's prophet Moses, and similar parallels are found in Vedas.[20]

The trade relations of both communities can be traced back to 1,000 BCE and earlier to the time of the Harrappa and Mohenjo-daro cultures of the Indian subcontinent and the Babylonian culture of Middle East. A Buddhist story describes Indian merchants visiting Baveru (Babylonia)[21] and selling peacocks for public display. Similar, earlier accounts describe monkeys exhibited to the public.[22] According to Chaim Menachem Rabin, the connection between ancient Israel and the Indian subcontinent, was recorded during the reign of King Solomon (10th century BCE) in I Kings 10.22




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Geographical analysis of Israel suggests that the authors of Old Testament were talking about India, where the selling of animals such as monkeys and peacocks existed.[25] Trade connections between India and Palestine and Mediterranean Jewish communities continued, and later, the languages of these cultures started to share linguistic similarities.[26]




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About 5,000 Jews reside in India today.[31] The Bnei Menashe are a group of more than 9,000 Jews from the Indian states Manipur and Mizoram who have resided in India since as early as 8th century BC.[32] On 31 March, 2005, Sephardi Rabbi, Shlomo Amar, one of Israel's two chief rabbis, accepted the Bnei Menashe's claim of being one of the ten lost tribes considering their devotion to Judaism. His decision was significant because it paved the way for all members of Bnei Menashe to enter Israel under Israel's Law of Return.[33] In the past two decades, some 1,700 Bnei Menashe members have moved to Israel. Israel has reversed the policy of immigration for the remaining 7,200 Bnei Menashe



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_and_Judaism

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by PZ547 on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 3:15pm
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The Magi of Persia in some references are said to have called their religion Kesh-î-Ibrahim. They also
trace their religious books to Abraham, who was believed to have brought them from heaven.

Arabian historians of the past have also contended that Brahma and Abraham, their ancestor, are the same person. The Persians generally called him Abraham Zeradust. Cyrus considered the religion of the
Jews the same as his own Zoroasterianism. “The Hindoos must have come from Abraham, or the
Israelites from Brahma
...


http://www.karma2grace.org/webcomponents/faq/index.asp?det=96

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/20100987?sid=21105993239563&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3737536

http://www.viewzone.com/abrahamx.html

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/secretsoc/secretsoc11.htm


Brahma -- Abraham -- Ibrahim


sound alike to me

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 5:56pm
Feedback complaint put in about this abusive thread:


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425282760/0#0

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Aussie on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:01pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 5:56pm:
Feedback complaint put in about this abusive thread:


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425282760/0#0


....and the likely outcome will be that you get disciplined.  The Rule is.....if you don't like how a Member Run Board is run......don't post in it.

More relevantly......if you take the complaint to Feedback, you will incur the wrath of FD.

Would you like a link to the relevant Rule?

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:03pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 5:56pm:
Feedback complaint put in about this abusive thread:


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425282760/0#0


....and the likely outcome will be that you get disciplined.  The Rule is.....if you don't like how a Member Run Board is run......don't post in it.

More relevantly......if you take the complaint to Feedback, you will incur the wrath of FD.

Would you like a link to the relevant Rule?


yes


Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Aussie on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:03pm
Here is that......


Link.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:06pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:03pm:
Here is that......


Link.




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I'm not sure how to make this any clearer. Do not post complaints about the mods of the member run boards here. Stop using the board if you do not like how it is run. I will close the feedback board if you cannot take the hint.

Another rule - no drama queening on the feedback board.



I wasn't aware of that rule.

Seems a strange rule that gives a blank cheque  to the mods on other sections.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Aussie on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:03pm:
Here is that......


Link.




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I'm not sure how to make this any clearer. Do not post complaints about the mods of the member run boards here. Stop using the board if you do not like how it is run. I will close the feedback board if you cannot take the hint.

Another rule - no drama queening on the feedback board.



I wasn't aware of that rule.

Seems a strange rule that gives a blank cheque  to the mods on other sections.


And here:

Link.


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Member run boards
Do not use a member run board if you do not accept the standards applied by the moderator. While the rules outlined here apply to the entire forum, moderators of member run boards may go beyond them and be as strict, biased, vague, or whatever, as they want. Diversity of moderating style is encouraged rather than conformity to universal standards. If you have a problem with the moderation, please take it up with the moderator via PM or on their board. If you do not get a satisfactory resolution, cease using the board. Do not post complaints about moderation on the feedback board. This will result in your suspension from the feedback board and/or the member run board in question.




Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:11pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:03pm:
Here is that......


Link.




Quote:
I'm not sure how to make this any clearer. Do not post complaints about the mods of the member run boards here. Stop using the board if you do not like how it is run. I will close the feedback board if you cannot take the hint.

Another rule - no drama queening on the feedback board.



I wasn't aware of that rule.

Seems a strange rule that gives a blank cheque  to the mods on other sections.


And here:

Link.

[quote]Member run boards
Do not use a member run board if you do not accept the standards applied by the moderator. While the rules outlined here apply to the entire forum, moderators of member run boards may go beyond them and be as strict, biased, vague, or whatever, as they want. Diversity of moderating style is encouraged rather than conformity to universal standards. If you have a problem with the moderation, please take it up with the moderator via PM or on their board. If you do not get a satisfactory resolution, cease using the board. Do not post complaints about moderation on the feedback board. This will result in your suspension from the feedback board and/or the member run board in question.



[/quote]



OK Aussie - I withdrew my complaint:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425282760/0#1

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Dame Pansi on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:24pm

It certainly is a light free thread, complete with the messenger of darkness himself.

Didn't someone famous once say "let there be light"?

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:34pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:24pm:
It certainly is a light free thread, complete with the messenger of darkness himself.

Didn't someone famous once say "let there be light"?



Sir master Light has no right of reply.    :'(

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Dame Pansi on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:50pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:34pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:24pm:
It certainly is a light free thread, complete with the messenger of darkness himself.

Didn't someone famous once say "let there be light"?



Sir master Light has no right of reply.    :'(



Master Light won't give it a second thought, he doesn't involve himself with such petty issues. Sprint wants the limelight, it's not the same as universal light such as the Master has acquired through much self discipline and love for all fellow beings.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:54pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:34pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:24pm:
It certainly is a light free thread, complete with the messenger of darkness himself.

Didn't someone famous once say "let there be light"?



Sir master Light has no right of reply.    :'(



Master Light won't give it a second thought, he doesn't involve himself with such petty issues. Sprint wants the limelight, it's not the same as universal light such as the Master has acquired through much self discipline and love for all fellow beings.



But what if master Light stops posting due to the unfairness?

I would miss his posts.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 9:01pm

PZ547 wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 1:19pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 1:16pm:

PZ547 wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 1:05pm:
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http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=211

[smiley=cheesy.gif]



Seek help NOW, seriously :D :D :D


It's so EASY getting you guys to out yourselves

[smiley=grin.gif]



'outing ourselves' as people who think you are seriously deranged???
Yes, but then that's what everyone who reads your twaddle thinks..

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by issuevoter on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 10:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:54pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:34pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:24pm:
It certainly is a light free thread, complete with the messenger of darkness himself.

Didn't someone famous once say "let there be light"?



Sir master Light has no right of reply.    :'(



Master Light won't give it a second thought, he doesn't involve himself with such petty issues. Sprint wants the limelight, it's not the same as universal light such as the Master has acquired through much self discipline and love for all fellow beings.



But what if master Light stops posting due to the unfairness?

I would miss his posts.

If light boy stops posting it will not be due to unfairness. It will be due to drinking his own Kool-Aid.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 7:51am
Sorry all, I had a reasonable complaint that lighty overwhelms this forum.
I hope that by having a few threads sanslighty that may help.

Yes, a bit of a contradiction having no light in a spiritual forum :-)

Lighty and I have known each other for a while and he would know I am acting in the general best interests.
I might get it wrong.

It is not meant as a punishment against lighty, just as a possible resolution to a reasonable query put to me.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by two minutes hate on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 8:57am
Rape gangs, threats of terrorism in our schools, forced marriage, genital mutilation. Well done, it's here now progressives. Pray, what do you propose we do about it?

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by PZ547 on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 9:50am
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I complained, in case anyone missed it

Can't see how being blessed by a complete stranger online contributes to discussion in most topics, can you ?


If I want to be meaninglessly blessed by a total stranger, I can pop into any church -- including invented ones -- any tick of the clock

Why presume to 'bless' people, uninvited, was my point when I made the public complaint, such as it was, a few weeks ago ?

Do I come to this forum so that every bloody topic can be derailed by someone who until recently didn't contribute meaningfully to the discussion/argument/whatever -- OTHER than to drop in some 'namastes' and 'blessings' ?
Answer: no.  I find it irritating and presumptuous.  It interrupts and send people elsewhere

If I bless you or you or you ---- who's feeling good, huh?

ME.  I'm feeling good.  I'm pretending I am somehow more enlightened than the person blessed.  It would be ME big-noting myself, cost free. Wow. What a guru I'd be -- presuming to bless the world.  Gee, I'd be my own godhead.  My fantasies would continue to grow


I don't believe Light has any right to bestow blessings or namastes on anyone, unless invited.  And I didn't do any inviting

The endless churning out of blessings and namastes render them empty of meaning in any case

Lately, since I objected here in the Spirituality forum, I've noticed Light actually saying more than Namaste and blessings in the main forums.  And she/he and I are often on the same page and voice the same concerns, which is good

I've never had a personal dislike of Light.  My 'complaint' such as it was in the Spirituality thread, was a voicing of MY beliefs after thousands of Light voicing his/her belief that it is their right to sit godlike dumping blessings/namastes into every thread with no follow up -- no point, other than to confirm for him-herself that they're in a position to distribute those

You or I could presume to bestow uninvited blessings etc. on all and sundry too.  Wouldn't make for much of a forum or discussion, though

and it's seemed to me that Light was aware he/she was annoying the tripe out of everyone by presuming to bless every person who posts.  I'm fairly convinced the blessings were simply evidence of Light's passive-aggression

So -- in the interests of Light's mental health, I said my bit without apology.  I think it was good for Light to hear it.  He/she seems to have screwed his/her head on a bit more securely ever since and seems to be getting into real issues now, rather than warbling around in a sort of empty-spiritual masturbation

Up to Light now to show there's a bit of substance behind all the empty holier-than-thou stuff.  Hope he-she rises to that challenge and saves his-her blessings etc. for those who want them, offline


No hard feelings, Light   [smiley=smiley.gif]

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 10:10am
The guy is harmless IMO.

Title: Re: "It is the light" free thread
Post by PZ547 on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 11:17am

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 10:10am:
The guy is harmless IMO.



It's fine to be harmless at home, in the garden, with one's own family and friends, church group, etc. 

And that's where self-aggrandising, mass-blessings and namastings should remain to large degree, imo


There used to be a very interesting poster in the Spirituality board, for example, named FreeDumb.  They had a lot to contribute, imo.  and they were genuinely searching re: spirituality and related topics.  I enjoyed his/her postings enormously and for a brief time, we had some interesting discussions.  We weren't bothering anyone.  The Spirituality board is out of the way, not to the taste of most, very probably

Light's contributions would have been welcomed as would anyone's.  After all, we all came from and will return to 'something/somewhere'.  It could be argued that attempting to map the final destination and beyond would be far more productive and valuable for all humans than, say, the next weekend trip to the coast or week in Bali.  After all, earth-destinations and time are finite, whereas what lies beyond earthly existence may be infinite

As said, Light's contribution would have been welcomed, particularly as Light appears of the belief they know a great deal about the finite and infinite, etc.  But Light mainly confined him-her self to blessings, namastings and lofty warbles intended, it seemed, to imply Light knew it all

and was sitting in the position of 'critic', critiquing people's posts and bestowing blessings and namastings on posters who were not attempting to portray themselves as lofty know-alls and instead, were speaking from the heart


Freedumb vanished, apparently, during the time I refrained from going near Oz Politics after my computer was twice attacked for voicing, apparently, opinions which caused one or maybe two persons to decided my opinions should be silenced because my opinions didn't suit THEM

Light drops namastes and blessing all over the forum.  Until recently there was little to no content -- just blessings and namastings

Got to the point I wanted to see what lay behind this self-aggrandisement. Was Light SO knowledgeable that he-she was on another dimension and felt he-she didn't NEED to explain their high self-opinion and self-appointed role whereby they awarded attempts by the majority mere mortals here ?

But I didn't find much content in Light's non-blessing/namasting posts. 

Further, most posters were avoiding the Spirituality board and probably many of the other boards, because they were wall-to-wall Light blessings and namastings

Should I dump Oz Politics?  After all, there were many other online fora I patronised, so I wouldn't exactly have been the poorer for quitting Oz Politics

OR - should I avail myself of the same liberties Light felt entitled to and speak my piece in the forum?  I did the latter and said Light had basically closed down the Spirituality board by clogging it up endlessly with supposedly high-flown and meaningless lines of post filled with blessings and namastings

Whether or not others complained publicly too, I don't know

I have no personal issues with Light and think Light and the forum have benefitted.  Recently, Light has taken on issues which affect all of us and I've supported LIght's initiatives

Great uncle Fred is 'harmless' too -- but it's very annoying for the rest of the family when he persists in wandering all over the house and interjecting in all conversations with ' My feet are cold'.    Harmless maybe, but can cause the rest of the family to run for the hills, just to get away from him

Anyway, no-one else believes it their self-appointed role to deliver blessings and namastings on everyone else.  We could all DO that, of course.   Be a hell of a forum if we did


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