A friend who receives the DSP showed me a letter they received showing a decreased payment for March.

The person was taken to centrelink and was told this is occurring a lot, and they have no understanding of why. Their computers show no reduction although they can not access the layer above their computers.

If you know anyone on a government income, please keep a close eye on any money the abbott mob want to pinch of them. If you see it, make noise.

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Centerlink print out of their supposed payments.

Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off?

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Is this one of the nine out of ten able bodied disability pensioners or a genuine case?

____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off?

Yes.

Immoral cowards.

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 9:56am:

Is this one of the nine out of ten able bodied disability pensioners or a genuine case?

Are you a medical practitioner. If not, what are your qualifications to challenge the diagnosis of these professionals?

Or are you a typical conservative monkeys here, peddling bullshite.

____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 10:11am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:56am: Is this one of the nine out of ten able bodied disability pensioners or a genuine case? Are you a medical practitioner. If not, what are your qualifications to challenge the diagnosis of these professionals? Or are you a typical conservative monkeys here, peddling bullshite.

He's a dolie and he's just p1ssed off because the DSP get a whole lot more than him. Not saying there's anything wrong with that.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/Pen.png

...looks more like the Abbott mob is giving your comrade a bonus..?  :D ;D

Thats the beginning amount, followed by plusses and minuses, equalling the total stated. $629 for the fortnight.


Meanwhile the deduction in third total has no explanation, and the letter was sent with centerlink on it, yet isn't their letter. It was sent from above centrelink.

How many sick people are the abbott mob planning to steal from.

____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 11:15am:

Thats the beginning amount, followed by plusses and minuses, equalling the total stated. $629 for the fortnight. Meanwhile the deduction in third total has no explanation, and the letter was sent with centerlink on it, yet isn't their letter. It was sent from above centrelink. How many sick people are the abbott mob planning to steal from.

Deductions can be many things?

Overpayments, Centrepay deductions for electrivity, NILS loans, payment advance loans, rent,

Your friend might even do some paid work and given the way that is set out I'd reckon that's the case.

Payments can be adjusted down or back up again depending on earnings.

Swagman wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 11:15am: Thats the beginning amount, followed by plusses and minuses, equalling the total stated. $629 for the fortnight. Meanwhile the deduction in third total has no explanation, and the letter was sent with centerlink on it, yet isn't their letter. It was sent from above centrelink. How many sick people are the abbott mob planning to steal from. Deductions can be many things? Overpayments, Centrepay deductions for electrivity, NILS loans, payment advance loans, rent, Your friend might even do some paid work and given the way that is set out I'd reckon that's the case. Payments can be adjusted down or back up again depending on earnings.

No paid work, no new deductions, and Centrelink gave a printout of what they think the payment should be ~ post two.

Centrelink said this is occurring a lot.
Letters from above them, supposed to be them, showing reductions in payments without explanation.

The adults are in charge ... meanwhile they are out undermine sick people.

Maybe they spied on them and found that like most disabled pensioners they are perfectly able to do anything that an able bodied person can do, anything except work in a paid a job that is.  ;D

____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 12:24pm:

Centrelink said this is occurring a lot. Letters from above them, supposed to be them, showing reductions in payments without explanation.

...sounds like bull manure to me

____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off?

You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you???

The February 2015 payments in the first post are $629.90 and the May 2015 payments are also  $629.90.

I'd say that your 'friend' had a centrepay deduction of $23.78.

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 12:30pm:

Maybe they spied on them and found that like most disabled pensioners they are perfectly able to do anything that an able bodied person can do, anything except work in a paid a job that is.  ;D

'They'?
Centrelink didn't spy, since they couldn't explain the letter showing a reduction.

Is ASIO now spying on the disabled and making medical decisions in secret.

Perhaps you could explain your opinion further.
i.e who is spying and where your stats are from showing medically diagnosed ill people are not ill.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 12:40pm:

____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you???

That's the whole point    ::)

Swagman wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 12:38pm:

____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:24pm: Centrelink said this is occurring a lot. Letters from above them, supposed to be them, showing reductions in payments without explanation. ...sounds like bull manure to me

Of course. Anything that shows the abbott mob's nasty penny pinching side is bull shite to you.

I can just see Tony Abbott sending out some of his mates to line the DSP people up against a wall, telling them to turn out their pockets and giving them a biff in the guts for their trouble.
You don't get PMs like that anymore.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 12:40pm:

____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? The February 2015 payments in the first post are $629.90 and the May 2015 payments are also  $629.90. I'd say that your 'friend' had a centrepay deduction of $23.78.

Meanwhile centrelink can not show what this phantom deduction is for ... and there records show that the payment for that date is the full $629 figure.

Those above centrelink are cutting while keeping centrelink and the DS pensioner in the dark.

And as already stated, this is not an isolated case.

____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 12:49pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? The February 2015 payments in the first post are $629.90 and the May 2015 payments are also  $629.90. I'd say that your 'friend' had a centrepay deduction of $23.78. Meanwhile centrelink can not show what this phantom deduction is for ... and there records show that the payment for that date is the full $629 figure. Those above centrelink are cutting while keeping centrelink and the DS pensioner in the dark. And as already stated, this is not an isolated case.

And again, that's bullshit. Your 'friend' can find out what the deduction is for...as it is (usually) clearly shown on the Centrelink website.

My DSP for example shows NO change from Feb to March whatsoever (other than the Centrepay deductions that I already know about).

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 12:44pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? That's the whole point    ::)

Really, so Greens_win intended to shoot himself in the foot and show that he was lying???

If you think Tony Abbott is skimming DSPs go to the ABC or the SMH, they like fabrications that might impact on the Govt.

They might even pay you some grub money..

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 1:01pm:

____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:49pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? The February 2015 payments in the first post are $629.90 and the May 2015 payments are also  $629.90. I'd say that your 'friend' had a centrepay deduction of $23.78. Meanwhile centrelink can not show what this phantom deduction is for ... and there records show that the payment for that date is the full $629 figure. Those above centrelink are cutting while keeping centrelink and the DS pensioner in the dark. And as already stated, this is not an isolated case. And again, that's bullshit. Your 'friend' can find out what the deduction is for...as it is (usually) clearly shown on the Centrelink website. My DSP for example shows NO change from Feb to March whatsoever (other than the Centrepay deductions that I already know about).

Will take you through this again.

The first post's picture is a letter they received in the mail.

They took it into centrelink and centrelink had no record of the letter, no record of any deductions to explain the less amount stated in the letter, and then printed out their record of this persons future payment. Picture in the second post.

Centrelink said this is occurring a lot and they don't know why. They are not able to access the computers above theirs, that are behind the letters being sent out with reduced payments.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:44pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? That's the whole point    ::) Really, so Greens_win intended to shoot himself in the foot and show that he was lying???

They are there to show conflicting payment details from centrelink, and from those above centrelink.

If they showed the same amount, then there would be no issue.

Swagman wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

If you think Tony Abbott is skimming DSPs go to the ABC or the SMH, they like fabrications that might impact on the Govt. They might even pay you some grub money..

You claim these letters supposed to be from centrelink are fabrications. Can you supply evidence.

Or are you the one fabricating to back up your weak position.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:44pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? That's the whole point    ::) Really, so Greens_win intended to shoot himself in the foot and show that he was lying???

He hasn't shot anyone, anywhere.

Nor has he lied.

I suggest that you read the OP again.

The fact that there are two different figures is the whole point of the post.

____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 1:23pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:01pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:49pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? The February 2015 payments in the first post are $629.90 and the May 2015 payments are also  $629.90. I'd say that your 'friend' had a centrepay deduction of $23.78. Meanwhile centrelink can not show what this phantom deduction is for ... and there records show that the payment for that date is the full $629 figure. Those above centrelink are cutting while keeping centrelink and the DS pensioner in the dark. And as already stated, this is not an isolated case. And again, that's bullshit. Your 'friend' can find out what the deduction is for...as it is (usually) clearly shown on the Centrelink website. My DSP for example shows NO change from Feb to March whatsoever (other than the Centrepay deductions that I already know about). Will take you through this again. The first post's picture is a letter they received in the mail. They took it into centrelink and centrelink had no record of the letter, no record of any deductions to explain the less amount stated in the letter, and then printed out their record of this persons future payment. Picture in the second post. Centrelink said this is occurring a lot and they don't know why. They are not able to access the computers above theirs, that are behind the letters being sent out with reduced payments.

Yes, and since MY DSP doesn't actually show ANY changes comparable with your friend's letter, I still say there is something that your friend as done, or agreed to, that has caused this...either a repayment for a Centrelink debt, or an extra payment to someone  (maybe Housing or a utility company)

And it still most likely has NOTHING to do with the government 'stealing money' from them..

we will get rid of the disability pension.

we need an ability pension that recognises everyone needs to contribute to make the community functional.

unless you are on a ventilator, you have a moral duty .

from each according to their ability
to each according to their need.

a new sherrif is in town , scott morrison, and he is going to help lift the disability pensioners up from the scrap heap of discarded waste and give them dignity through work.

hallelujah

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 1:31pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:03pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:44pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? That's the whole point    ::) Really, so Greens_win intended to shoot himself in the foot and show that he was lying??? He hasn't shot anyone, anywhere. Nor has he lied. I suggest that you read the OP again. The fact that there are two different figures is the whole point of the post.

Yes he has, and yes he has...
Greens_win has a fairly serious hatred of Abbott (as you in fact do) so 'inventing' bullshit 'decreases' in the DSP because of the Abbott Government is in no way beyond him.

Swagman wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 12:38pm:

____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:24pm: Centrelink said this is occurring a lot. Letters from above them, supposed to be them, showing reductions in payments without explanation. ...sounds like bull manure to me

that's just your default setting ... anything negative about the libs and you automatically call bull

Jesus aqua!

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 2:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:31pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:03pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:44pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? That's the whole point    ::) Really, so Greens_win intended to shoot himself in the foot and show that he was lying??? He hasn't shot anyone, anywhere. Nor has he lied. I suggest that you read the OP again. The fact that there are two different figures is the whole point of the post. Yes he has, and yes he has...

No, he hasn't.

He showed two different pics, with two different amounts, in order to demonstrate that some money was missing.

You have completely missed the point of the post.

aquascoot wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 1:58pm:

we will get rid of the disability pension. we need an ability pension that recognises everyone needs to contribute to make the community functional. unless you are on a ventilator, you have a moral duty . from each according to their ability to each according to their need. a new sherrif is in town , scott morrison, and he is going to help lift the disability pensioners up from the scrap heap of discarded waste and give them dignity through work. hallelujah

And how will he ensure that employers take these people on?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:58pm: we will get rid of the disability pension. we need an ability pension that recognises everyone needs to contribute to make the community functional. unless you are on a ventilator, you have a moral duty . from each according to their ability to each according to their need. a new sherrif is in town , scott morrison, and he is going to help lift the disability pensioners up from the scrap heap of discarded waste and give them dignity through work. hallelujah And how will he ensure that employers take these people on?

older women are quite employable.
young women can be unreliable, have hangovers, are emotional and have cat fights. older women are good workers and solid. great as medical receptionists, bank tellers etc.

older men....scott will be able to offer $$$$.
the DSP leads to a slackness, ill health, alcohol drinking, depressed lifestyle with flow on costs.
pay a good whack of the DSP to the employer and he will employ the old fella and

the old fella wins (he's got a job)
the employer wins (he gets a subsidy)
the government wins (less flow on costs and less pensioners).

simple

scooter always tries to create the trifecta  win/win/win.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 2:12pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:01pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:31pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:03pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:44pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? That's the whole point    ::) Really, so Greens_win intended to shoot himself in the foot and show that he was lying??? He hasn't shot anyone, anywhere. Nor has he lied. I suggest that you read the OP again. The fact that there are two different figures is the whole point of the post. Yes he has, and yes he has... No, he hasn't. He showed two different pics, with two different amounts, in order to demonstrate that some money was missing. You have completely missed the point of the post.

No greg, I haven't 'missed' anything. I have commented that since this is a fairly unique happening ( since it hasn't happened to me, or  indeed anyone else), there is obviously another reason/explanation for it.

If Housing Commission is involved, it's not unusual for Housing tenants to pay a bit extra on their rent during the year, in order to be able to skip a fortnight, for special events (i.e Christmas, Easter, birthdays etc)

So many so misinformed. You already have to do some work when you are on the DSP. I had to work, paid or unpaid, 8 hours per week.

We all know Morriscum is just going to throw half of those on the DSP on to the NewStart allowance, making their lives that much harder—they already have to travel for treatment, buy medicines etc.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 1:58pm:

____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:23pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:01pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:49pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? The February 2015 payments in the first post are $629.90 and the May 2015 payments are also  $629.90. I'd say that your 'friend' had a centrepay deduction of $23.78. Meanwhile centrelink can not show what this phantom deduction is for ... and there records show that the payment for that date is the full $629 figure. Those above centrelink are cutting while keeping centrelink and the DS pensioner in the dark. And as already stated, this is not an isolated case. And again, that's bullshit. Your 'friend' can find out what the deduction is for...as it is (usually) clearly shown on the Centrelink website. My DSP for example shows NO change from Feb to March whatsoever (other than the Centrepay deductions that I already know about). Will take you through this again. The first post's picture is a letter they received in the mail. They took it into centrelink and centrelink had no record of the letter, no record of any deductions to explain the less amount stated in the letter, and then printed out their record of this persons future payment. Picture in the second post. Centrelink said this is occurring a lot and they don't know why. They are not able to access the computers above theirs, that are behind the letters being sent out with reduced payments. Yes, and since MY DSP doesn't actually show ANY changes comparable with your friend's letter, I still say there is something that your friend as done, or agreed to, that has caused this...either a repayment for a Centrelink debt, or an extra payment to someone  (maybe Housing or a utility company) And it still most likely has NOTHING to do with the government 'stealing money' from them..

If as you say, there are extra charges or some changes. How come centrelink don't know of them and can not explain the letter and the differing amount in the letter and what they have on record.

Also why the letter doesn't explain the lesser amount.

And they (centrelink staff) also stating, this is not an isolated case of this happen?

Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean a. it will not, and b. it's not happening to this person and others.

I started this thread so to make others aware if they are receiving benefits or they know of others receiving, so to watch out.

Could your blind denial be because of your hatred of anything not politically conservative?

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 2:23pm:

So many so misinformed. You already have to do some work when you are on the DSP. I had to work, paid or unpaid, 8 hours per week. We all know Morriscum is just going to throw half of those on the DSP on to the NewStart allowance, making their lives that much harder—they already have to travel for treatment, buy medicines etc.

Excuse me while I get the violin out  ;D

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 2:23pm:

So many so misinformed. You already have to do some work when you are on the DSP. I had to work, paid or unpaid, 8 hours per week. We all know Morriscum is just going to throw half of those on the DSP on to the NewStart allowance, making their lives that much harder—they already have to travel for treatment, buy medicines etc.

NO actually you don't...You are ALLOWED to do so many hours hours per week on the DSP, depending on your particular abilities or  assessment.

For example, I have NEVER been required to do any work to receive the DSP, nor has my housemate.
If YOU do have to, then that is to do with YOU, not anyone else. 

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 2:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:12pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:01pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:31pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:03pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:44pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? That's the whole point    ::) Really, so Greens_win intended to shoot himself in the foot and show that he was lying??? He hasn't shot anyone, anywhere. Nor has he lied. I suggest that you read the OP again. The fact that there are two different figures is the whole point of the post. Yes he has, and yes he has... No, he hasn't. He showed two different pics, with two different amounts, in order to demonstrate that some money was missing. You have completely missed the point of the post. No greg, I haven't 'missed' anything. I have commented that since this is a fairly unique happening ( since it hasn't happened to me, or  indeed anyone else), there is obviously another reason/explanation for it. If Housing Commission is involved, it's not unusual for Housing tenants to pay a bit extra on their rent during the year, in order to be able to skip a fortnight, for special events (i.e Christmas, Easter, birthdays etc)

Centrelink staff said this is not an isolated case.

The person is in private rental and the rent hasn't changed.

The person is unable to work, so no adjustments apply.

No change concerning loans.

Nothing has changed and this is why centrelink staff printed out the person's future payments that state $629 (picture in second post) and not the letter amount of $609 (picture in first post)

____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 2:31pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:22pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:12pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:01pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:31pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:03pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:44pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? That's the whole point    ::) Really, so Greens_win intended to shoot himself in the foot and show that he was lying??? He hasn't shot anyone, anywhere. Nor has he lied. I suggest that you read the OP again. The fact that there are two different figures is the whole point of the post. Yes he has, and yes he has... No, he hasn't. He showed two different pics, with two different amounts, in order to demonstrate that some money was missing. You have completely missed the point of the post. No greg, I haven't 'missed' anything. I have commented that since this is a fairly unique happening ( since it hasn't happened to me, or  indeed anyone else), there is obviously another reason/explanation for it. If Housing Commission is involved, it's not unusual for Housing tenants to pay a bit extra on their rent during the year, in order to be able to skip a fortnight, for special events (i.e Christmas, Easter, birthdays etc) Centrelink staff said this is not an isolated case. The person is in private rental and the rent hasn't changed. The person is unable to work, so no adjustments apply. No change concerning loans. Nothing has changed and this is why centrelink staff printed out the person's future payments that state $629 (picture in second post) and not the letter amount of $609 (picture in first post)

Then there is STILL something other than the Federal Government involved, since MY payment hasn't changed, and I am on the DSP, if this is an 'individual case' then it's nothing to do with Abbott..

aquascoot wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 1:58pm:

we will get rid of the disability pension. we need an ability pension that recognises everyone needs to contribute to make the community functional. unless you are on a ventilator, you have a moral duty . from each according to their ability to each according to their need. a new sherrif is in town , scott morrison, and he is going to help lift the disability pensioners up from the scrap heap of discarded waste and give them dignity through work. hallelujah

We need to fit rollers to the disabled wheel chairs and elderlys walkers so they build all of these roads for the miners.

aquascoot wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 1:58pm:

we will get rid of the disability pension. we need an ability pension that recognises everyone needs to contribute to make the community functional. unless you are on a ventilator, you have a moral duty . from each according to their ability to each according to their need. a new sherrif is in town , scott morrison, and he is going to help lift the disability pensioners up from the scrap heap of discarded waste and give them dignity through work. hallelujah

Ja, ja, arbeit macht frei.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 2:29pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:23pm: So many so misinformed. You already have to do some work when you are on the DSP. I had to work, paid or unpaid, 8 hours per week. We all know Morriscum is just going to throw half of those on the DSP on to the NewStart allowance, making their lives that much harder—they already have to travel for treatment, buy medicines etc. NO actually you don't...You are ALLOWED to do so many hours hours per week on the DSP, depending on your particular abilities or  assessment. For example, I have NEVER been required to do any work to receive the DSP, nor has my housemate. If YOU do have to, then that is to do with YOU, not anyone else.

You get assessed—and there are inspections to make sure you work the errr “optional” hours. I didn’t get inspected but I was a little over 12 months from retirement age. Weird you weren’t given a mandatory hours per week.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 2:36pm:

____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:31pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:22pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:12pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:01pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:31pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:03pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:44pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? That's the whole point    ::) Really, so Greens_win intended to shoot himself in the foot and show that he was lying??? He hasn't shot anyone, anywhere. Nor has he lied. I suggest that you read the OP again. The fact that there are two different figures is the whole point of the post. Yes he has, and yes he has... No, he hasn't. He showed two different pics, with two different amounts, in order to demonstrate that some money was missing. You have completely missed the point of the post. No greg, I haven't 'missed' anything. I have commented that since this is a fairly unique happening ( since it hasn't happened to me, or  indeed anyone else), there is obviously another reason/explanation for it. If Housing Commission is involved, it's not unusual for Housing tenants to pay a bit extra on their rent during the year, in order to be able to skip a fortnight, for special events (i.e Christmas, Easter, birthdays etc) Centrelink staff said this is not an isolated case. The person is in private rental and the rent hasn't changed. The person is unable to work, so no adjustments apply. No change concerning loans. Nothing has changed and this is why centrelink staff printed out the person's future payments that state $629 (picture in second post) and not the letter amount of $609 (picture in first post) Then there is STILL something other than the Federal Government involved, since MY payment hasn't changed, and I am on the DSP, if this is an 'individual case' then it's nothing to do with Abbott..

Where did I state it is happening to everyone?

Centrelink staff said they have a lot of complaints about this kind of occurrence.

If you would like to continue to call them liars, knock yourself out. Serious, knock your self out.

____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 2:26pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:58pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:23pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:01pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:49pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? The February 2015 payments in the first post are $629.90 and the May 2015 payments are also  $629.90. I'd say that your 'friend' had a centrepay deduction of $23.78. Meanwhile centrelink can not show what this phantom deduction is for ... and there records show that the payment for that date is the full $629 figure. Those above centrelink are cutting while keeping centrelink and the DS pensioner in the dark. And as already stated, this is not an isolated case. And again, that's bullshit. Your 'friend' can find out what the deduction is for...as it is (usually) clearly shown on the Centrelink website. My DSP for example shows NO change from Feb to March whatsoever (other than the Centrepay deductions that I already know about). Will take you through this again. The first post's picture is a letter they received in the mail. They took it into centrelink and centrelink had no record of the letter, no record of any deductions to explain the less amount stated in the letter, and then printed out their record of this persons future payment. Picture in the second post. Centrelink said this is occurring a lot and they don't know why. They are not able to access the computers above theirs, that are behind the letters being sent out with reduced payments. Yes, and since MY DSP doesn't actually show ANY changes comparable with your friend's letter, I still say there is something that your friend as done, or agreed to, that has caused this...either a repayment for a Centrelink debt, or an extra payment to someone  (maybe Housing or a utility company) And it still most likely has NOTHING to do with the government 'stealing money' from them.. If as you say, there are extra charges or some changes. How come centrelink don't know of them and can not explain the letter and the differing amount in the letter and what they have on record. Also why the letter doesn't explain the lesser amount. And they (centrelink staff) also stating, this is not an isolated case of this happen? Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean a. it will not, and b. it's not happening to this person and others. I started this thread so to make others aware if they are receiving benefits or they know of others receiving, so to watch out. Could your blind denial be because of your hatred of anything not politically conservative?

Well Centrelink will have actually known about them, AND told your friend, the fact that 'your friend' hasn't passed that info on to you, is more about your 'friend' than it is about Centrelink...( your friend is most likely lying their arse off, in order to stay in good with the Greens)

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:29pm: St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:23pm: So many so misinformed. You already have to do some work when you are on the DSP. I had to work, paid or unpaid, 8 hours per week. We all know Morriscum is just going to throw half of those on the DSP on to the NewStart allowance, making their lives that much harder—they already have to travel for treatment, buy medicines etc. NO actually you don't...You are ALLOWED to do so many hours hours per week on the DSP, depending on your particular abilities or  assessment. For example, I have NEVER been required to do any work to receive the DSP, nor has my housemate. If YOU do have to, then that is to do with YOU, not anyone else.  You get assessed—and there are inspections to make sure you work the errr “optional” hours. I didn’t get inspected but I was a little over 12 months from retirement age. Weird you weren’t given a mandatory hours per week.

No, not 'weird' at all...IF you are on the DSP (which I personally doubt) then there MUST have been something in your particular case, that required you to work X number of hours per week/fortnight.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:

____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:26pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:58pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:23pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:01pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:49pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? The February 2015 payments in the first post are $629.90 and the May 2015 payments are also  $629.90. I'd say that your 'friend' had a centrepay deduction of $23.78. Meanwhile centrelink can not show what this phantom deduction is for ... and there records show that the payment for that date is the full $629 figure. Those above centrelink are cutting while keeping centrelink and the DS pensioner in the dark. And as already stated, this is not an isolated case. And again, that's bullshit. Your 'friend' can find out what the deduction is for...as it is (usually) clearly shown on the Centrelink website. My DSP for example shows NO change from Feb to March whatsoever (other than the Centrepay deductions that I already know about). Will take you through this again. The first post's picture is a letter they received in the mail. They took it into centrelink and centrelink had no record of the letter, no record of any deductions to explain the less amount stated in the letter, and then printed out their record of this persons future payment. Picture in the second post. Centrelink said this is occurring a lot and they don't know why. They are not able to access the computers above theirs, that are behind the letters being sent out with reduced payments. Yes, and since MY DSP doesn't actually show ANY changes comparable with your friend's letter, I still say there is something that your friend as done, or agreed to, that has caused this...either a repayment for a Centrelink debt, or an extra payment to someone  (maybe Housing or a utility company) And it still most likely has NOTHING to do with the government 'stealing money' from them.. If as you say, there are extra charges or some changes. How come centrelink don't know of them and can not explain the letter and the differing amount in the letter and what they have on record. Also why the letter doesn't explain the lesser amount. And they (centrelink staff) also stating, this is not an isolated case of this happen? Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean a. it will not, and b. it's not happening to this person and others. I started this thread so to make others aware if they are receiving benefits or they know of others receiving, so to watch out. Could your blind denial be because of your hatred of anything not politically conservative? Well Centrelink will have actually known about them, AND told your friend, the fact that 'your friend' hasn't passed that info on to you, is more about your 'friend' than it is about Centrelink...( your friend is most likely lying their arse off, in order to stay in good with the Greens)

The person is not a liar. He has no reason to lie. And for you to accuse others of lying, then explain the difference between the centrelink letter sum, and the print out amount from centrelink.

What next, are you going to call me a liar again?


Stop digging your hole and pull your head in.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 3:18pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:29pm: St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:23pm: So many so misinformed. You already have to do some work when you are on the DSP. I had to work, paid or unpaid, 8 hours per week. We all know Morriscum is just going to throw half of those on the DSP on to the NewStart allowance, making their lives that much harder—they already have to travel for treatment, buy medicines etc. NO actually you don't...You are ALLOWED to do so many hours hours per week on the DSP, depending on your particular abilities or  assessment. For example, I have NEVER been required to do any work to receive the DSP, nor has my housemate. If YOU do have to, then that is to do with YOU, not anyone else.  You get assessed—and there are inspections to make sure you work the errr “optional” hours. I didn’t get inspected but I was a little over 12 months from retirement age. Weird you weren’t given a mandatory hours per week. No, not 'weird' at all...IF you are on the DSP (which I personally doubt) then there MUST have been something in your particular case, that required you to work X number of hours per week/fortnight.

I can assure you I damn well was on the DSP about 14 months 2011-12. Couldn’t work and had to close the doors on my Home Brew Shop which about broke my heart.

____ wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 5:14pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 4:38pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:26pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:58pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:23pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:01pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:49pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm: ____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am: Centerlink print out of their supposed payments. Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off? You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you??? The February 2015 payments in the first post are $629.90 and the May 2015 payments are also  $629.90. I'd say that your 'friend' had a centrepay deduction of $23.78. Meanwhile centrelink can not show what this phantom deduction is for ... and there records show that the payment for that date is the full $629 figure. Those above centrelink are cutting while keeping centrelink and the DS pensioner in the dark. And as already stated, this is not an isolated case. And again, that's bullshit. Your 'friend' can find out what the deduction is for...as it is (usually) clearly shown on the Centrelink website. My DSP for example shows NO change from Feb to March whatsoever (other than the Centrepay deductions that I already know about). Will take you through this again. The first post's picture is a letter they received in the mail. They took it into centrelink and centrelink had no record of the letter, no record of any deductions to explain the less amount stated in the letter, and then printed out their record of this persons future payment. Picture in the second post. Centrelink said this is occurring a lot and they don't know why. They are not able to access the computers above theirs, that are behind the letters being sent out with reduced payments. Yes, and since MY DSP doesn't actually show ANY changes comparable with your friend's letter, I still say there is something that your friend as done, or agreed to, that has caused this...either a repayment for a Centrelink debt, or an extra payment to someone  (maybe Housing or a utility company) And it still most likely has NOTHING to do with the government 'stealing money' from them.. If as you say, there are extra charges or some changes. How come centrelink don't know of them and can not explain the letter and the differing amount in the letter and what they have on record. Also why the letter doesn't explain the lesser amount. And they (centrelink staff) also stating, this is not an isolated case of this happen? Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean a. it will not, and b. it's not happening to this person and others. I started this thread so to make others aware if they are receiving benefits or they know of others receiving, so to watch out. Could your blind denial be because of your hatred of anything not politically conservative? Well Centrelink will have actually known about them, AND told your friend, the fact that 'your friend' hasn't passed that info on to you, is more about your 'friend' than it is about Centrelink...( your friend is most likely lying their arse off, in order to stay in good with the Greens) The person is not a liar. He has no reason to lie. And for you to accuse others of lying, then explain the difference between the centrelink letter sum, and the print out amount from centrelink. What next, are you going to call me a liar again? Stop digging your hole and pull your head in.

Is there a difference between the 'letter sum' and the 'printout amount'??

So yes, I will call you a liar again..the 2 photos are either from 2 different people, or there is a deduction that your friend has failed to mention.