When I read this I wondered if being on the dole might be symptomatic of what causes these young muslims to be attracted to ISIS

That is unemployed, no future prospects, ESL etc

Your thoughts?

ALMOST all of the wannabe terrorists who have snuck out of Australia to join jihadist armies in Iraq and Syria were on the dole or some form of welfare payment, The Saturday Telegraph can reveal.

A federal investigation into the welfare status of Australian foreign fighters, prompted last year by revelations in The Telegraph, shows 96 per cent had been on welfare benefits when they fled to the Middle East.

Most had continued to collect payments from Australian taxpayers while training with Islamic State to become terrorists intent on wanting to kill Australians.

The investigation has captured the records of 57 Australians who left the country before October last year to fight with the Islamic State.

Of that number 55 have been confirmed to have been on welfare payments.

Read it all here
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/aussie-jihadists-were-on-the-dole/story-fni0cx12-1227233046278

The moral of the story is

'no one wants to give a jihadist a job'

OR

'can't get a job may as well become a jihadist'

Maybe make retirement age 45, employ all youth to keep them busy and out of trouble.

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 9:39am:

When I read this I wondered if being on the dole might be symptomatic of what causes these young muslims to be attracted to ISIS That is unemployed, no future prospects, ESL etc Your thoughts? ALMOST all of the wannabe terrorists who have snuck out of Australia to join jihadist armies in Iraq and Syria were on the dole or some form of welfare payment, The Saturday Telegraph can reveal. A federal investigation into the welfare status of Australian foreign fighters, prompted last year by revelations in The Telegraph, shows 96 per cent had been on welfare benefits when they fled to the Middle East. Most had continued to collect payments from Australian taxpayers while training with Islamic State to become terrorists intent on wanting to kill Australians. The investigation has captured the records of 57 Australians who left the country before October last year to fight with the Islamic State. Of that number 55 have been confirmed to have been on welfare payments. Read it all here http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/aussie-jihadists-were-on-the-dole/story-fni0cx12-1227233046278

they want to damage our society and refuse to participate in it.
Same as muslims who wear those horrid repressive clothes.

Yeah, they give decent dole bludgers a bad name.  ;D

So out of hundreds of Australian who have gone to the Islamic State, 55 were unemployed.

The youth unemployment rate in Australia is about 15%

In much of Sydney the youth unemployment rate is approaching 20%.

So the unemployment rates are fairly representative of the general  population of Sydney

If 500 Australians have joined the jihad, then 55 unemployed is about 20%. Similar to the youth unemployment rate in much of Sydney.

Media beat-up?

issuevoter wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 11:10am:

Yeah, they give decent dole bludgers a bad name.  ;D

now now not all on the dole are there from choice.. a bit unfair..

but yes I am sick of hearing about these folks who have no intention of fitting in to our culture...yet take everything they can from the system they despise....

sickens me I am afraid...I loved Warrens cartoon yesterday.. very apt.. I cant put pics up...sorry..

but we are at least waking up and doing something about it if the likes of shortarse and milne will allow the govt to do so...like if they have duel passports the Aust one is null and void..and I am sure the moment they leave the country centrelink closes their accounts..

how about any family they leave behind.?? everyone says we should worry about them as well.. but their own dont.....why should I?

Julius Abbott wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 11:10am:

So out of hundreds of Australian who have gone to the Islamic State, 55 were unemployed. The youth unemployment rate in Australia is about 15% In much of Sydney the youth unemployment rate is approaching 20%. So the unemployment rates are fairly representative of the general  population of Sydney If 500 Australians have joined the jihad, then 55 unemployed is about 20%. Similar to the youth unemployment rate in much of Sydney. Media beat-up?

they are fighting for the opposite side...

they should be outed...

if there was only 1 getting the dole it would be wrong....they have spoken told us where their heart is.. and it isnt in Australia.. good riddance lets see ISIL take care of them

55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole


It is just the nature of the beast.

All moslems want to weaken and destroy our society, because our society is 'corrupt' [i.e. it isn't ISLAMIC].







Quote:

Inside the sect that loves terror August 07, 2005 A Sunday Times reporter spent two months as a recruit inside the Saviour Sect to reveal for the first time how the extremist group promotes hatred of “non-believers” and encourages its followers to commit acts of violence including suicide bombings. The reporter witnessed one of the sect’s leading figures, Sheikh Omar Brooks, telling a young audience, including children, that it was the duty of Muslims to be terrorists and boasting, just days before the July 7 attacks, that he wanted to die as a suicide bomber. After the [London] attacks that claimed 52 lives, another key figure, Zachariah, justified them by saying that the victims were not “innocent” people because they did not abide by strict Islamic laws. In the immediate aftermath the sect’s leader, Omar Bakri Mohammed, said: “For the past 48 hours I’m very happy.” Two weeks later he referred to the bombers as the “fantastic four”. .....The Saviour Sect was established 10 months ago. .....They are so opposed to the British state that they see it as their duty to make no economic contribution to the nation. One member warned our undercover reporter against getting a job because it would be contributing to the kuffar (non-Muslim) system. Instead, the young follower, Nasser, who receives £44 job seekers’ allowance a week, said it was permissible to “live off benefits”, just as the prophet Mohammed had lived off the state while attacking it at the same time. Even paying car insurance was seen as supporting the system. “All the (Saviour Sect) brothers drive without insurance,” he said. ......Last week Omar Brooks stirred controversy with televised comments, but they were carefully chosen to avoid appearing to incite violence. On Saturday, July 2 he had been more forthright. Speaking to a group of teenagers and families, he declared it was imperative for Muslims to “instil terror into the hearts of the kuffar” and added: “I am a terrorist. As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist.” ......In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians. Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: “Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar.”

these are old links, but the article is kosher.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html
another source, "Undercover in the academy of hatred"...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458729/posts







'Cat meat' Hilali cheating Australia, the NSW government, by not registering his vehicle ------->   next post

55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole


It is just the nature of the beast.

All moslems want to weaken and destroy our society, because our society is 'corrupt' [i.e. it isn't ISLAMIC].







Quote:

January  7, 2003 Mufti arrested after police struggle Police will summons the spiritual leader of Australia's Muslim community, following a struggle with a highway patrol officer in Sydney's west yesterday morning. "The police officer, he try to do his job but not the Australian way," the Mufti said. "I think he try the Chicago way, not Australian way." Police say the car was found to be unregistered and uninsured and a struggle followed.

these are old links, but the article is kosher.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200301/s758587.htm
http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/comments/sheikh_shaken_down/





Quote:

2006-11-05 Hysteric Cleric - He gets sick every time there's trouble - and We're getting sick of his trouble!

this is an old link, but the article is kosher.
http://www.israelated.com/node/2883

Moslems always play the ISLAMIC 'victimhood' card


QUESTION
....WHY was the Mufti of Australia [the supposed spiritual leader of muslims in Australia] driving an unregistered and uninsured [reportedly being his own] vehicle???
....WHAT sort of example is the Mufti of Australia giving to other muslims in Australia???
....to explore the reason why many UK muslims are encouraged to avoid properly licensing their vehicles, see this UK news report...

".....One member warned our undercover reporter against getting a job because it would be contributing to the kuffar (non-Muslim) system.
.....Even paying car insurance was seen as supporting the [Kuffar] system. “All the (Saviour Sect) brothers drive without insurance,....”

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 10:36am:

The moral of the story is 'no one wants to give a jihadist a job' OR 'can't get a job may as well become a jihadist' Maybe make retirement age 45, employ all youth to keep them busy and out of trouble.

Or the classic cause ...

An idle mind is the devil's playground.

You only have to look at Red Baron, Yadda and Gizmo for proof of that concept.

55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole


It is just the nature of the beast.

All moslems want to weaken and destroy our society, because our society is 'corrupt' [i.e. it isn't ISLAMIC].




A news report about the moslem community in Australia -------->


Quote:

Hardline clerics urge tax cheating Richard Kerbaj March 13, 2007 HARDLINE Muslim clerics are encouraging their followers to cheat the tax system because they consider paying income tax contrary to Islamic law. [read...paying Kuffar taxes is supporting the non-ISLAMIC political system] Muslim leaders have warned that fundamentalist imams who put sharia law ahead of Australian law are also condoning welfare fraud and the cash economy as tax-evasion methods. Sydney-based Islamic leader Fadi Rahman told The Australian that the extremist clerics who were preaching messages against paying income taxes were also staunchly opposed to Western ideologies, including the Australian way of life. He said he had heard hardline clerics at Friday sermons in Sydney highlight the importance of cheating the tax system. "I mean, just like how you've got clerics (with) extreme views who are telling the Muslims in the Western world to declare war against the very country that they live in and the very country that is paying for their day-to-day life, you'll find that these are the clerics who are telling them to dodge the tax system," said Mr Rahman, a youth leader and the president of the Independent Centre for Research Australia.

this is an old link, but the article is kosher.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21371194-2702,00.html

Yadda wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 11:36am:

55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole It is just the nature of the beast. All moslems want to weaken and destroy our society, because our society is 'corrupt' [i.e. it isn't ISLAMIC]. A news report about the moslem community in Australia --------> Quote: Hardline clerics urge tax cheating Richard Kerbaj March 13, 2007 HARDLINE Muslim clerics are encouraging their followers to cheat the tax system because they consider paying income tax contrary to Islamic law. [read...paying Kuffar taxes is supporting the non-ISLAMIC political system] Muslim leaders have warned that fundamentalist imams who put sharia law ahead of Australian law are also condoning welfare fraud and the cash economy as tax-evasion methods. Sydney-based Islamic leader Fadi Rahman told The Australian that the extremist clerics who were preaching messages against paying income taxes were also staunchly opposed to Western ideologies, including the Australian way of life. He said he had heard hardline clerics at Friday sermons in Sydney highlight the importance of cheating the tax system. "I mean, just like how you've got clerics (with) extreme views who are telling the Muslims in the Western world to declare war against the very country that they live in and the very country that is paying for their day-to-day life, you'll find that these are the clerics who are telling them to dodge the tax system," said Mr Rahman, a youth leader and the president of the Independent Centre for Research Australia. this is an old link, but the article is kosher. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21371194-2702,00.html

Yadda's blather again exemplifies that an idle mind is the devil's playground.

Yadda wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 11:31am:

Quote: 2006-11-05 Hysteric Cleric - He gets sick every time there's trouble - and We're getting sick of his trouble! this is an old link, but the article is kosher. http://www.israelated.com/node/2883 Moslems always play the ISLAMIC 'victimhood' card

here is an updated link, to criticism of Hilali ----- >

http://mrbagel.blogspot.com.au/2006/11/hysteric-cleric-he-gets-sick-every-time.html

Svengali wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 11:38am:

Yadda's blather again exemplifies that an idle mind is the devil's playground.

Oh you poor thing.

Yup.

Yadda exposes the mendacious and corrupt moslem community = = Yadda is SATAN's lap dog.

.......according to Svengali, et al.


:)

Yadda wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 11:44am:

Svengali wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 11:38am: Yadda's blather again exemplifies that an idle mind is the devil's playground. Oh you poor thing. Yup. Yadda exposes the mendacious and corrupt moslem community = = Yadda is SATAN's lap dog. .......according to Svengali, et al. :)

Yadda's confession of abject depravity is noted. Yadda's confession is the first step in solving its problems.

55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole


I don't think you'd find one lefty here that would have a problem with that, in fact as soon as the ALP get back in they'll double the number of unemployed jihadis on centrelink in their first term.

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 11:49am:

55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole I don't think you'd find one lefty here that would have a problem with that, in fact as soon as the ALP get back in they'll double the number of unemployed jihadis on centrelink in their first term.

That means Innocentbystander will face longer queues and longer waiting times at Centrelink.

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 11:49am:

55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole

This is deceptive tactics by the Murdoch media.

Out of 500 people, they found out 55 were unemployed. Why is the figure give 55 out of 57, and not 55 out of 500?

What is Murdoch's agenda?

Yadda wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 11:36am:

55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole It is just the nature of the beast. All moslems want to weaken and destroy our society, because our society is 'corrupt' [i.e. it isn't ISLAMIC]. A news report about the moslem community in Australia --------> Quote: Hardline clerics urge tax cheating Richard Kerbaj March 13, 2007 HARDLINE Muslim clerics are encouraging their followers to cheat the tax system because they consider paying income tax contrary to Islamic law. [read...paying Kuffar taxes is supporting the non-ISLAMIC political system] Muslim leaders have warned that fundamentalist imams who put sharia law ahead of Australian law are also condoning welfare fraud and the cash economy as tax-evasion methods. Sydney-based Islamic leader Fadi Rahman told The Australian that the extremist clerics who were preaching messages against paying income taxes were also staunchly opposed to Western ideologies, including the Australian way of life. He said he had heard hardline clerics at Friday sermons in Sydney highlight the importance of cheating the tax system. "I mean, just like how you've got clerics (with) extreme views who are telling the Muslims in the Western world to declare war against the very country that they live in and the very country that is paying for their day-to-day life, you'll find that these are the clerics who are telling them to dodge the tax system," said Mr Rahman, a youth leader and the president of the Independent Centre for Research Australia. this is an old link, but the article is kosher. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21371194-2702,00.html

so our society is corrupt?

Goverment allows us to get centrelink, does that make us weak?

Julius Abbott wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 12:19pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 11:49am: 55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole This is deceptive tactics by the Murdoch media. Out of 500 people, they found out 55 were unemployed. Why is the figure give 55 out of 57, and not 55 out of 500? What is Murdoch's agenda?

1 year ago goverment said there are 150 peope fighting with ISIS.

6 months ago it was 100 fighting with ISIS.

So now its 57 fighting with ISIS?

And out from under their rocks the terrorist supporters crawl  ;D

wally1 wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 12:30pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 12:19pm: innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 11:49am: 55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole This is deceptive tactics by the Murdoch media. Out of 500 people, they found out 55 were unemployed. Why is the figure give 55 out of 57, and not 55 out of 500? What is Murdoch's agenda? 1 year ago goverment said there are 150 peope fighting with ISIS. 6 months ago it was 100 fighting with ISIS. So now its 57 fighting with ISIS?

Them bombing raids is whittling them down a little....

You guys have the comprehension skills of a flea.

They said they checked out 57. Yes... just 57.

That is 57. Not 50. Not 100. Not 500. Just 57.

They just checked out 57... not 58.... 57. Out of that 57, 55 were on benefits.

Just be thankful that they didn't extrapolate their findings.

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 12:42pm:

You guys have the comprehension skills of a flea. They said they checked out 57. Yes... just 57. That is 57. Not 50. Not 100. Not 500. Just 57. They just checked out 57... not 58.... 57. Out of that 57, 55 were on benefits. Just be thankful that they didn't extrapolate their findings.

Did they correlate the findings to Liberal Party membership?

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 12:35pm:

And out from under their rocks the terrorist supporters crawl  ;D

Who?

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 12:55pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 12:35pm: And out from under their rocks the terrorist supporters crawl  ;D Who?

Scurry scurry scurry ... quick stomp on them  ;D

Julius Abbott wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 11:10am:

So out of hundreds of Australian who have gone to the Islamic State, 55 were unemployed. The youth unemployment rate in Australia is about 15% In much of Sydney the youth unemployment rate is approaching 20%. So the unemployment rates are fairly representative of the general  population of Sydney If 500 Australians have joined the jihad, then 55 unemployed is about 20%. Similar to the youth unemployment rate in much of Sydney. Media beat-up?

I believe it was 55 of 57 - over 96%. They did not claim to know the details of every single one of them. Furthermore, these were people who are obviously very motivated - the sort of people who should be able to get a job, if only they valued that sort of thing. Forcing middle aged people to retire early is not going to encourage these Muslims to come back from their rape and pillage campaign and fill the void.

The good news is that killing these people will help our jobless statistics.

freediver wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 1:29pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 11:10am: So out of hundreds of Australian who have gone to the Islamic State, 55 were unemployed. The youth unemployment rate in Australia is about 15% In much of Sydney the youth unemployment rate is approaching 20%. So the unemployment rates are fairly representative of the general  population of Sydney If 500 Australians have joined the jihad, then 55 unemployed is about 20%. Similar to the youth unemployment rate in much of Sydney. Media beat-up? I believe it was 55 of 57 - over 96%. They did not claim to know the details of every single one of them. Furthermore, these were people who are obviously very motivated - the sort of people who should be able to get a job, if only they valued that sort of thing. Forcing middle aged people to retire early is not going to encourage these Muslims to come back from their rape and pillage campaign and fill the void. The good news is that killing these people will help our jobless statistics.

Jobless rate has gone up from 6.0% to 6.4% in the past year.

It must be the fault of 57 muslims who have gone overseas to increase our jobless rate.

Keep it up FD.

freediver wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 1:29pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 11:10am: So out of hundreds of Australian who have gone to the Islamic State, 55 were unemployed. The youth unemployment rate in Australia is about 15% In much of Sydney the youth unemployment rate is approaching 20%. So the unemployment rates are fairly representative of the general  population of Sydney If 500 Australians have joined the jihad, then 55 unemployed is about 20%. Similar to the youth unemployment rate in much of Sydney. Media beat-up? I believe it was 55 of 57 - over 96%. They did not claim to know the details of every single one of them. Furthermore, these were people who are obviously very motivated - the sort of people who should be able to get a job, if only they valued that sort of thing. Forcing middle aged people to retire early is not going to encourage these Muslims to come back from their rape and pillage campaign and fill the void. The good news is that killing these people will help our jobless statistics.

How is the Freediver pogrom against marine life progressing? Does Freediver behead the defenceless creatures after impaling and torturing them with a spear?

Oops, better change the subject....

freediver wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 6:40pm:

Oops, better change the subject....

I will take that as a yes. Freediver beheads marine life he has speared and tortured defying Freediver's god George W Bush who stated that "Fish and human beings could coexist peacefully". Freediver excludes itself from human race.

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 12:42pm:

You guys have the comprehension skills of a flea. They said they checked out 57. Yes... just 57. That is 57. Not 50. Not 100. Not 500. Just 57. They just checked out 57... not 58.... 57. Out of that 57, 55 were on benefits. Just be thankful that they didn't extrapolate their findings.

You idiot! They only checked 57 because they only looked at Centrelink records. Poor journalism.

Seeing as they checked Centrelink records, presumeably the other 400 were not on the dole.

What records do you check for employed people?

Julius Abbott wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 7:20pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 12:42pm: You guys have the comprehension skills of a flea. They said they checked out 57. Yes... just 57. That is 57. Not 50. Not 100. Not 500. Just 57. They just checked out 57... not 58.... 57. Out of that 57, 55 were on benefits. Just be thankful that they didn't extrapolate their findings. You idiot! They only checked 57 because they only looked at Centrelink records. Poor journalism. Seeing as they checked Centrelink records, presumeably the other 400 were not on the dole. What records do you check for employed people?

Can journalists access centrelink records?

wally1 wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 12:30pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 12:19pm: innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 11:49am: 55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole This is deceptive tactics by the Murdoch media. Out of 500 people, they found out 55 were unemployed. Why is the figure give 55 out of 57, and not 55 out of 500? What is Murdoch's agenda? 1 year ago goverment said there are 150 peope fighting with ISIS. 6 months ago it was 100 fighting with ISIS. So now its 57 fighting with ISIS?

They are being killed off.

many blessings

so we have the government supplying material aid to the enemy

round them up and send them to gitmo for 10 years thanks

for these are your laws .

so let it be written .. so let it be done

in love and light

namaste

- : ) =

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 7:00am:

many blessings so we have the government supplying material aid to the enemy

Unfortunately, this is very true!

In the name of multiculturalism and inter-culture harmony, we have had all branches of the Australian governments, for decades, aiding moslems, in the intentional endeavour [of the moslem community] to destroy Australian society.


PROOF ?
Watch a group of moslem children, being coached by moslem adults, to hate Australia, and Australians,
......HERE, WITHIN AUSTRALIA.       !!!!

And of course this cultural coaching of moslem children is all happening behind closed doors, and out of the public eye.

Muslims brainwash children in Australia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E





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it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 7:00am:

round them up and send them to gitmo for 10 years thanks for these are your laws . so let it be written .. so let it be done in love and light namaste - : ) =

We could do worse, imo!

e.g.

We could 'forgive' our incompetent, self serving pollies [who continue to refuse to acknowledge what ISLAM is, and who continue to refuse to acknowledge the danger which every moslem poses to the future stability and peace of Australia],     .....and allow them [the pollies] continue to negligently, wreck Australia.





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FOR EXAMPLE;

A TV interviewer asks local moslems for their views about what happened, at the site where an armed Danish moslem was shot dead by Danish police.     -------->


Quote:

"You are supporting him [the moslem attacker, against free speech, in Denmark, 2015] ?" "Here in Denmark moslems stick together. This man has a HEART of GOLD. This man, as a moslem, WE SUPPORT. The real terrorists here are those who offended the moslems. Its the Danish cartoonists who are responsible for initiating terrorism in Denmark. They are the terrorists. This guy [the moslem attacker, against free speech, in Denmark] - he wasn't a terrorist. He's a hero."

those words, transcribed from this YT -------->




Danish Muslims celebrate the killer as _Hero with heart of gold_         goto 1m 22s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyBBNQPPoXU


the YT link was posted by Lionel Edriess on OzPol -------->

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424143997/11#11




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All moslems are moslems.

And these monsters [moslems] live among us.

What is a 'moslem' ?

By definition, 'the moslem' is a person who 'subscribes' to the tenets and laws of ISLAM.

n.b.
If 'the moslem' did not agree promise to adhere to the tenets and laws of ISLAM, then 'the moslem' would not be a moslem.


All moslems subscribe to the tenets and laws and the 'ideals', which are promoted by ISLAM and Allah's prophet.

That, is the essential definition of a 'moslem'.

Soren wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 6:58am:

wally1 wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 12:30pm: Julius Abbott wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 12:19pm: innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 11:49am: 55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole This is deceptive tactics by the Murdoch media. Out of 500 people, they found out 55 were unemployed. Why is the figure give 55 out of 57, and not 55 out of 500? What is Murdoch's agenda? 1 year ago goverment said there are 150 peope fighting with ISIS. 6 months ago it was 100 fighting with ISIS. So now its 57 fighting with ISIS? They are being killed off.

But they said 57.

Why didnt they say 55 out of 150.

Maybe because there isnt that many fighting?

Then as somebody here said the media is maniupulating the numbers and sexing the story up.

1 is too many.

Every thing should be done to ensure these scum do not come back and any others are rounded up and jailed or sent packing.


In the mean time bring back our defence personnel and let the ME deal with their own problems.

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 7:00am:

so we have the government supplying material aid to the enemy round them up and send them to gitmo for 10 years thanks for these are your laws . so let it be written .. so let it be done

it_is_the_light, I dub thee Master light. Keep up with this kind of good sense, and you may just get to Grand Master, or even Yoda.

I congratulate thee. I leave thee with a GK Chesterton quote:

Quote:

It is terrible to contemplete how few politicians are hanged.” – The Cleveland Press, 3/1/21

wally1 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 8:42am:

Why didnt they say 55 out of 150.

Probably because the numbers were 57. Where did you get 150 from?


Julius Abbott wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 7:20pm:

Seeing as they checked Centrelink records, presumeably the other 400 were not on the dole.

Or, because the other 400 didn't exist. Where did you get the idea there were 457 of the bastards?

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 9:39am:

55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole Quote: Aussie jihadists were on the dole  SIMON BENSONnational political editor    Herald Sun  February 21, 2015 12:00AM ALMOST all of the wannabe terrorists who have snuck out of Australia to join jihadist armies in Iraq and Syria were on the dole or some form of welfare payment, The Saturday Telegraph can reveal.

Media Watch did an expose on A Current Affair and its "untruths" on a claim that 80% of refugees were still claiming the dole after 5 years in Australia


http://scrat.hellocoton.fr/img/classic/liar-liar-pants-on-fire-14059652.jpg



The figure was in reality was  some form of welfare payment - according to a CentreLink spokesperson


Centrelink's "Some form of welfare payment" includes ...



Australian Victim of Terrorism Overseas Payment
Austudy
Baby Bonus
Child Care Rebate
Australian Government rebate on Private Health Insurance
Aged Pension
Carers Pension
Disability Pension
Green Army Programme
Family Tax Benefit
Work for the Dole

... and of course NewStart


The full list is here

http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/services/



Roughly 80% of Australians are on "Some form of welfare payment" - from the growing NewStart and Aged Pension to the declining DSPs - not to mention the MOST handed out welfare, the  Family Tax Benefit and the welfare payment to people who can afford private health insurance

Who cares how mant are over there ... the more the merrier .... just don't let them back in the country ...

they are not over there because they can't get a job ...

they don't want to work

Here's the hypocrisy .... they don't want to work because that would be supporting the Kuffar(non muslims) ....

yet they take the Kuffars money(dole) because that is like the Kuffar paying them a Jizyah (non muslim tax).

Yadda wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 11:25am:

55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole It is just the nature of the beast. All moslems want to weaken and destroy our society, because our society is 'corrupt' [i.e. it isn't ISLAMIC].

As has ALREADY been established - there is NO evidence to support this HATE RANT







first prize


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MumboJumbo wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 9:53am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 7:00am: so we have the government supplying material aid to the enemy round them up and send them to gitmo for 10 years thanks for these are your laws . so let it be written .. so let it be done it_is_the_light, I dub thee Master light. Keep up with this kind of good sense, and you may just get to Grand Master, or even Yoda. I congratulate thee. I leave thee with a GK Chesterton quote: Quote: It is terrible to contemplete how few politicians are hanged.” – The Cleveland Press, 3/1/21

many blessings

forgiveness is here along with

compassion as these events continue to unfold .

the governments are providing material aid to the enemy ..OZ US UK et al

and so they do

namaste

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 9:44am:

the governments are providing material aid to the enemy ..OZ US UK et al

Master light, should our pollies face a firing squad? We could also use it as a chance to cure the budget deficit -- auction/raffle off the spots in the firing squad. They'd make a fortune.

MumboJumbo wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 10:05am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 24th, 2015 at 9:44am: the governments are providing material aid to the enemy ..OZ US UK et al Master light, should our pollies face a firing squad? We could also use it as a chance to cure the budget deficit -- auction/raffle off the spots in the firing squad. They'd make a fortune.

many blessings master bach ...

yet these will be rounded up soon and

made to serve their karmic retribution as some may put this ..,

for what these have put out will come back and the time happens to be now ,

for never before have we seen so many awakened individuals

seeing through the lies en mass and so

should not be too much longer

and these will be detained

......and processed

so be at peace

namaste

- : ) =

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 8:16am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 11:25am: 55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole It is just the nature of the beast. All moslems want to weaken and destroy our society, because our society is 'corrupt' [i.e. it isn't ISLAMIC]. As has ALREADY been established - there is NO evidence to support this HATE RANT

What i have claimed is not a 'HATE RANT'.

It is a truth rant.              [.....if you want to show where i am in error, then, in debate, show me my error of fact]

And there is plenty of 'religious' evidence to support my claims, about 1/ moslems, and 2/ my claims about 'the moslem' intent towards we, who are 'disbelievers'.

Or, are you claiming that moslems are [in reality] filthy infidels, who spit in Allah's face ???




http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/21#21

Quote:

THE PERSON WHO DECLARES HIMSELF TO BE, A MOSLEM  ------- > By definition, 'the moslem' is a person who 'subscribes' to the tenets and laws and 'ideals' of ISLAM. That, is the essential definition of a 'moslem'. And these monsters [moslems] live among us.

Moslems are moslems.

And the enmity and hatred which 'the moslem' has, for all disbelievers, is never-ending ------- >


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4





http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/17#17

Quote:

The heart of ISLAM is the Koran  [and heart of the Koran, is the ideas and ideals it contains]. SO WHAT DOES THE KORAN SAY ABOUT MOSLEMS LIVING IN PEACE WITH DISBELIEVERS ? ; ---------- >

Yadda wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 11:24am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 24th, 2015 at 8:16am: Yadda wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 11:25am: 55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole It is just the nature of the beast. All moslems want to weaken and destroy our society, because our society is 'corrupt' [i.e. it isn't ISLAMIC]. As has ALREADY been established - there is NO evidence to support this HATE RANT What i have claimed is not a 'HATE RANT'. It is a truth rant.

No it isn't.   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

wally1 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 8:42am:

Soren wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 6:58am: wally1 wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 12:30pm: Julius Abbott wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 12:19pm: innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 11:49am: 55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole This is deceptive tactics by the Murdoch media. Out of 500 people, they found out 55 were unemployed. Why is the figure give 55 out of 57, and not 55 out of 500? What is Murdoch's agenda? 1 year ago goverment said there are 150 peope fighting with ISIS. 6 months ago it was 100 fighting with ISIS. So now its 57 fighting with ISIS? They are being killed off. But they said 57. Why didnt they say 55 out of 150. Maybe because there isnt that many fighting? Then as somebody here said the media is maniupulating the numbers and sexing the story up.

so many have different passports.. maybe they were talking about those who were actually BORN here..

not all of those who are there have their names and faces on videos...

has everyone forgotten how kat and crook  in particular and quite a few lefties were screaming for the dole to be increased by $50 a week..

wouldnt these guys have loved that.. ::) ::)

freediver wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 1:29pm:

I believe it was 55 of 57 - over 96%. They did not claim to know the details of every single one of them. Furthermore, these were people who are obviously very motivated - the sort of people who should be able to get a job, if only they valued that sort of thing. Forcing middle aged people to retire early is not going to encourage these Muslims to come back from their rape and pillage campaign and fill the void. The good news is that killing these people will help our jobless statistics.

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buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 10:11am:

The figure was in reality was  some form of welfare payment- according to a CentreLinkspokesperson Centrelink's "Some form of welfare payment"includes ... Australian Victim of Terrorism Overseas Payment Austudy Baby Bonus Child Care Rebate Australian Government rebate on Private Health Insurance Aged Pension Carers Pension Disability Pension Green Army Programme Family Tax Benefit Work for the Dole ... and of course NewStart The full list is here http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/services/ Roughly 80% of Australians are on "Some form of welfare payment"

FD rushing to sweeping conclusions without knowing the full facts of the story?

Never!

Yadda wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 11:24am:

WHAT DOES THE KORAN SAY ABOUT MUSLIMS LIVING IN PEACE WITH DISBELIEVERS CHRISTIANS ?

Where's the POINT ?

when your mind is CLOSED
and your agenda is SET




... but for what it's worth

http://time.com/3093732/isis-iraq-yazidis-and-christians/

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

Where's the POINT ? when your mind is CLOSED and your agenda is SET ... but for what it's worth http://time.com/3093732/isis-iraq-yazidis-and-christians/

buzzanddidj,

No, you are wrong.

And the author of the article which you presented [above], is misrepresenting what the Koran authorises!   ------ >

'LOTS AND LOTS, OF DEAD BODIES, IN A GREAT SLAUGHTER, IN THE LAND.'

        .......Surprise!   Surprise!   NOT!



And so, ISIS is not ignoring what the Koran instructs.

And i can prove [.....from the authority of the Koran] that ISIS has the authority of mainstream ISLAM to slaughter Christians [in Syria and Iraq].





Christians are counted [among moslems], as those who wilfully 'disbelieve'.

THEREFORE, Christians may be slaughtered, whenever their slaughter serves ISLAM's purposes.



"....I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve......"
Koran 8.012


"It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land....."
Koran 8.067


Koran [8:67 above] meaning here, first moslems should beleaguer and slaughter their enemies in the land they are overcoming, to terrorise, to cower them.

Koran 8.067 is given, in anticipation, that then later, moslems will more easily be able to defeat, and enslave a pliant, fearful enemy people, who have been 'subdued' by moslem Jihad terrorism.

Koran 8.067 authorises moslem Jihad terrorism to create dead bodies, in the land that they are entering.

Scores and scores of dead bodies.

Even dead Christians.





ISIS is causing terror in the land [i.e. Syria and Iraq].

And this massacrer in Syria and Iraq, is occurring, just as Allah's messenger [and the Koran] advised 'the moslem' to do.




buzzanddidj,

So it would seem, that you are [intentionally?] misrepresenting what ISLAM [through the authority of the Koran] teaches, regarding how moslems should always conduct their conflicts with 'disbelievers'.

And you misrepresenting what Mohammed teaches;




FROM THE SUNNA OF MOHAMMED - ISLAM'S PROPHET AND ARGUABLY, THE AUTHOR OF ISLAM'S THEOLOGY OF TERROR

Allah's Apostle said,
"I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)...."
hadith/bukhari #004.052.220


".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies):....."
hadithsunnah/muslim/ #004.1062






Quote:

"ISIS Is Ignoring Islam’s Teachings on Yazidis and Christians"

buzzanddidj,

The article you presented suggests that ISIS has got nothing to do with the 'mainstream' moslems believe!

That is a patently false claim !!!!


Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.


Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."




buzzanddidj,

Please, do tell us;

In what sense is ISIS 'different' from ISLAM ?



e.g.

ISIS supports jihad warfare

ISLAM supports jihad warfare



ISIS supports dhimmitude

ISLAM supports dhimmitude

[dhimmitude = = servitude/enslavement of Jews and Christians, enforcing a status of 'serfdom' upon Jews and Christians]



ISIS supports stoning for adultery

ISLAM supports stoning for adultery



ISIS supports amputation for theft

ISLAM supports amputation for theft



ISIS supports the death penalty for apostasy

ISLAM supports the death penalty for apostasy



ISIS supports the supremacy of ISLAM being established through warfare against disbelievers

ISLAM supports the supremacy of ISLAM being established through warfare against disbelievers






buzzanddidj,

Please, do tell us;

In what sense is ISIS 'different' from ISLAM ?




.





And my statement of fact, with reference to the Koran, stands;


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/17#17

Quote:

The heart of ISLAM is the Koran  [and heart of the Koran, is the ideas and ideals it contains]. SO WHAT DOES THE KORAN SAY ABOUT MOSLEMS LIVING IN PEACE WITH DISBELIEVERS ? ; ---------- >

Yadda wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 24th, 2015 at 3:30pm: Where's the POINT ? when your mind is CLOSED and your agenda is SET ... but for what it's worth http://time.com/3093732/isis-iraq-yazidis-and-christians/ No, you are wrong.

See what I MEAN ?

Can they claim this as meeting their work for the dole requirements? 

Buzz vs Yadda: the great crayon duel

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 8:16am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 11:25am: 55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole It is just the nature of the beast. All moslems want to weaken and destroy our society, because our society is 'corrupt' [i.e. it isn't ISLAMIC]. [center]As has ALREADY been established - there is NO evidence to support this HATE RANT

Which doctrines and teachings of Islam are compatible with Western secular democracy?

Please explain.

Quote:

FD rushing to sweeping conclusions

What conclusions? That 55 of 57 is over 96%?

Starve them, let them eat bush meat.

freediver wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 8:53pm:

Quote: FD rushing to sweeping conclusions What conclusions? That 55 of 57 is over 96%?

The bit about them not having or wanting jobs.

Does it not count if they are on a disability pension while fighting for ISIS?

Most of those payments are associated with not having a job.

oh disability payments was it now FD?

Any more baseless crap you want to throw in?

Islam is like bringing in a non native species,  they will breed like rabbits and from what I recall rabbits didn't go so well in the past.

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 5:54pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 24th, 2015 at 5:37pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 24th, 2015 at 3:30pm: Where's the POINT ? when your mind is CLOSED and your agenda is SET ... but for what it's worth http://time.com/3093732/isis-iraq-yazidis-and-christians/ No, you are wrong. See what I MEAN ?

"ISLAM is a peaceful, tolerant faith."


< ------------ Yadda, repeating claims made by 'moderate' moslems








Moslems in the West, HELL BENT, on convincing filthy, stinking disbelievers that moslems are peaceful and tolerant people. ------ >



Google,
"Danny Ayalon" "slaughter the Jews" London

Google,
"slaughter the Jews"




.




Moslems in the West, HELL BENT, on convincing filthy, stinking disbelievers that moslems are peaceful and tolerant people. ------ >




Persons like this - Haron Monis - .......

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2014/12/16/1227157/400913-624365d8-8461-11e4-a702-553dc58650c9.jpg

.....are moslems.


IMAGE....
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/08/27/1227038/812722-d0870956-2cc7-11e4-a978-2255e0b773c2.jpg


.....they are inspired by what their religion teaches them to believe.






.




Moslems in the West, HELL BENT, on convincing filthy, stinking disbelievers that moslems are peaceful and tolerant people. ------ >



IMAGE...
http://images.smh.com.au/2012/09/15/3637564/art-protest3-620x349.jpg

"BEHEAD ALL THOSE WHO INSULT THE PROPHET"

Sydney CBD, 2012, moslem street protests.

Moslems on Sydney streets, religious bigots, 'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' and tolerant ISLAM and moslems really are -  towards those who don't hold with the views of ISLAM and moslems.

Moslems on a Sydney street, openly demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion'.

Demanding the 'religious' right, to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.




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Moslems in the West, HELL BENT, on convincing filthy, stinking disbelievers that moslems are peaceful and tolerant people. ------ >



IMAGE...
http://www.zionism-israel.com/ezine/Isllam2.jpg
London, moslem street protests.
'Demonstrating' just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslem really are.



THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"







.





Moslems in the West, HELL BENT, on convincing filthy, stinking disbelievers that moslems are peaceful and tolerant people. ------ >



IMAGE...
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/cartoon-protest12.jpg

Moslems in the UK, teaching their children the basics, about ISLAMIC values.

On the streets of [London, 2006]




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The message that moslems really want to convey, about ISLAM;

'IF YOU SAY THAT ISLAM IS VIOLENT, WE WILL KILL YOU!'






"ISLAM is peace."



DO YOU DOUBT IT ???

IF YOU DO, JUST LOOK HERE.....

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

This statistic points to an irrefutable flaw in our immigration policy. We're paying people to break our laws and conspire to commit atrocities against us. What a joke!

two minutes hate wrote on Feb 25^th, 2015 at 1:04pm:

This statistic points to an irrefutable flaw in our immigration policy. We're paying people to break our laws and conspire to commit atrocities against us. What a joke!

This would be considered a successful policy by the left.  :D

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 8:04pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 24th, 2015 at 8:16am: Yadda wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 11:25am: 55 of 57 Jihadists were on dole It is just the nature of the beast. All moslems want to weaken and destroy our society, because our society is 'corrupt' [i.e. it isn't ISLAMIC]. As has ALREADY been established - there is NO evidence to support this HATE RANT Which doctrines and teachings of Islam are compatible with Western secular democracy? Please explain.

Staying ON TOPIC...

Where is the evidence all accused were ON THE DOLE
- which is the basis of this thread ?

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 10:27pm:

oh disability payments was it now FD? Any more baseless crap you want to throw in?

It was one of the options listed by buzz. Which ones do you think are most likely for the jihadist demographic Gandalf? Old age pension? Australian Victim of Terrorism Overseas Payment?

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 7:44pm:

Buzz vs Yadda: the great crayon duel

Be relieved the male side, is not excruciatingly long winded
- to the point of dementia



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