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Message started by The Mechanic on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:03pm

Title: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by The Mechanic on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:03pm
Says Crookonit and FD..

well... you keep telling yourselves that...


and i'll keep laughing all the way to the bank...  ;D

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:11pm
What's your feed in tariff?

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Redneck on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:12pm
The advice I have heard is buy shares in the big banks for a better return!

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by The Mechanic on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:11pm:
What's your feed in tariff?


only .60c  ;)

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:23pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:11pm:
What's your feed in tariff?


only .60c  ;)



No wonder - try buying a solar system now - you only get about a 12 cents feed in tariff.

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by The Mechanic on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:23pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:11pm:
What's your feed in tariff?


only .60c  ;)



No wonder - try buying a solar system now - you only get about a 12 cents feed in tariff.


you are looking at it the wrong way bobby..

you put a solar system on your roof to power your house in sunlight hours..

thus.. "saving" you purchasing electricity..

a lot of people tell me that they save 3 to 400 bucks at this time of year..

so if you save around $1000 a year - that's $5000 over 5 years... you can't go wrong unless we go into a massive solar eclipse that lasts for 100 years!!

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:11pm:
What's your feed in tariff?


6 cents feedin for the consumer with rooftop solar vs 25 cents from greed incorporated !!

Greed incorporated is stealing energy from the consumers and the government was complicit in it when it forced everyone to replace their perfectly working electro mechanical meters with dumb meters and selling the lie that these meters could be used to lower their bills :(

Only a brain dead liberal would think this was an equitable arrangement :(

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:24pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:11pm:
What's your feed in tariff?


6 cents from the consumer with rooftop solar vs 25 cents from greed incorporated !!

Greed incorporated is stealing energy from the consumers and the government was implicit in it when it forced everyone to replace their perfectly working electro mechanical meters with dumb meters and selling the lie that these meters could be used to lower their bills :(

Only a brain dead liberal would think this was an equitable arrangement :(



hear hear  sir Nail.

That was Libbos keeping the rich richer so the poor get the picture.

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:30pm
bump

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:45pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:12pm:
The advice I have heard is buy shares in the big banks for a better return!


That's what I heard from someone who invested 10K on a 5KW rooftop solar system. He was giving away a large portion of his energy to greed incorporated with the blessings of the government behind it :(

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Amadd on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:53pm
I'm not a lib, but I can understand that electricity companies need to make a profit. There are workers to pay, overheads, etc., etc.

The 66 cent feed-in wasn't just a good deal, it was an awesome deal, designed to get the punters in and the solar companies up and running.
It worked very well I think, and if you were one of the first on board, your solar system has probably already paid for itself a few times over.

So, no need to be greedy about it. After all, the prime objective was to do something for the environment wasn't it?



Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 16th, 2015 at 10:55pm

Amadd wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:53pm:
I'm not a lib, but I can understand that electricity companies need to make a profit. There are workers to pay, overheads, etc., etc.

The 66 cent feed-in wasn't just a good deal, it was an awesome deal, designed to get the punters in and the solar companies up and running.
It worked very well I think, and if you were one of the first on board, your solar system has probably already paid for itself a few times over.

So, no need to be greedy about it. After all, the prime objective was to do something for the environment wasn't it?


and once they got them hooked they are now stealing energy from the consumer all with the governments blessing :( It was a con right from the start - to use consumers to build the biggest nation wide distributed solar farm and then steal the energy from them :(

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Amadd on Feb 16th, 2015 at 11:06pm
Use your imagination mate. You are not helpless to build your own off-grid system. They insinuate the boundaries, and you tend to believe them.

I don't see it as a con, because let's face it, not many will do anything for the environment without the promise of profit.




Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 17th, 2015 at 5:35am

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 10:55pm:

Amadd wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:53pm:
I'm not a lib, but I can understand that electricity companies need to make a profit. There are workers to pay, overheads, etc., etc.

The 66 cent feed-in wasn't just a good deal, it was an awesome deal, designed to get the punters in and the solar companies up and running.
It worked very well I think, and if you were one of the first on board, your solar system has probably already paid for itself a few times over.

So, no need to be greedy about it. After all, the prime objective was to do something for the environment wasn't it?


and once they got them hooked they are now stealing energy from the consumer all with the governments blessing :( It was a con right from the start - to use consumers to build the biggest nation wide distributed solar farm and then steal the energy from them :(



Yes sir Nail -

it's theft that is government backed.

The electricity companies even save money on added infrastructure to handle peak loads from air cons during the day.

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Feb 17th, 2015 at 5:41am

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:11pm:
What's your feed in tariff?


6 cents feedin for the consumer with rooftop solar vs 25 cents from greed incorporated !!

Greed incorporated is stealing energy from the consumers and the government was complicit in it when it forced everyone to replace their perfectly working electro mechanical meters with dumb meters and selling the lie that these meters could be used to lower their bills :(

Only a brain dead liberal would think this was an equitable arrangement :(

Nothing is equitable or the world wouldn't turn! The wind wouldn't blow or the rivers run  :o :o

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Feb 17th, 2015 at 5:44am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:23pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:11pm:
What's your feed in tariff?


only .60c  ;)



No wonder - try buying a solar system now - you only get about a 12 cents feed in tariff.


you are looking at it the wrong way bobby..

you put a solar system on your roof to power your house in sunlight hours..

thus.. "saving" you purchasing electricity..

a lot of people tell me that they save 3 to 400 bucks at this time of year..

so if you save around $1000 a year - that's $5000 over 5 years... you can't go wrong unless we go into a massive solar eclipse that lasts for 100 years!!

I'm finding it difficult to not agree  :-?

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by The Mechanic on Feb 17th, 2015 at 6:30am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:24pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:11pm:
What's your feed in tariff?


6 cents from the consumer with rooftop solar vs 25 cents from greed incorporated !!

Greed incorporated is stealing energy from the consumers and the government was implicit in it when it forced everyone to replace their perfectly working electro mechanical meters with dumb meters and selling the lie that these meters could be used to lower their bills :(

Only a brain dead liberal would think this was an equitable arrangement :(



hear hear  sir Nail.

That was Libbos keeping the rich richer so the poor get the picture.


now there's your second mistake bobby...

you listen to that dickhead Nails..

the Labor government in Victoria "forced" all Victorians to have the smart meter and to pay for the privilege..

it was always about making money for the electricity retailers so that they didn't have to send a meter reader out...

solar systems are good..

solar systems will save you $1000 a year on average for an average person who uses power throughout the day.. families, pensioners etc

get on it..  :)

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by The Mechanic on Feb 17th, 2015 at 6:36am

Amadd wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:53pm:
I'm not a lib, but I can understand that electricity companies need to make a profit. There are workers to pay, overheads, etc., etc.

The 66 cent feed-in wasn't just a good deal, it was an awesome deal, designed to get the punters in and the solar companies up and running.
It worked very well I think, and if you were one of the first on board, your solar system has probably already paid for itself a few times over.

So, no need to be greedy about it. After all, the prime objective was to do something for the environment wasn't it?


that's right...

you have to ask why the biggest whingers of climate change don't have a solar system on the roof themselves helping the environment...

Greens Win
Nails
Bobby
etc...

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Feb 17th, 2015 at 7:05am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 17th, 2015 at 6:36am:

Amadd wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:53pm:
I'm not a lib, but I can understand that electricity companies need to make a profit. There are workers to pay, overheads, etc., etc.

The 66 cent feed-in wasn't just a good deal, it was an awesome deal, designed to get the punters in and the solar companies up and running.
It worked very well I think, and if you were one of the first on board, your solar system has probably already paid for itself a few times over.

So, no need to be greedy about it. After all, the prime objective was to do something for the environment wasn't it?


that's right...

you have to ask why the biggest whingers of climate change don't have a solar system on the roof themselves helping the environment...

Greens Win
Nails
Bobby
etc...

..saying all that climate change is a government problem: it's a regulated markets problem!

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 17th, 2015 at 9:33am

Amadd wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 11:06pm:
Use your imagination mate. You are not helpless to build your own off-grid system. They insinuate the boundaries, and you tend to believe them.

I don't see it as a con, because let's face it, not many will do anything for the environment without the promise of profit.


That's not the point. You shouldn't have to spend more money just to get a fair price for the energy that you feed into the grid. If there is a charge for maintenance and rental of the grid then they should do what telstra does and itemize it on the bill separately. Surely it's not hard !!

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 17th, 2015 at 9:39am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 17th, 2015 at 6:30am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:24pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:11pm:
What's your feed in tariff?


6 cents from the consumer with rooftop solar vs 25 cents from greed incorporated !!

Greed incorporated is stealing energy from the consumers and the government was implicit in it when it forced everyone to replace their perfectly working electro mechanical meters with dumb meters and selling the lie that these meters could be used to lower their bills :(

Only a brain dead liberal would think this was an equitable arrangement :(



hear hear  sir Nail.

That was Libbos keeping the rich richer so the poor get the picture.


now there's your second mistake bobby...

you listen to that dickhead Nails..

the Labor government in Victoria "forced" all Victorians to have the smart meter and to pay for the privilege..

it was always about making money for the electricity retailers so that they didn't have to send a meter reader out...

solar systems are good..

solar systems will save you $1000 a year on average for an average person who uses power throughout the day.. families, pensioners etc

get on it..  :)


and making us pay for their f.cking meters just to add insult to injury :(

and what on earth do we need electricity retailers for ? We never needed them before this privitization scam.

Who's hare brained idea was this ?

Electricity retailers are like having retailers sell you air or rain water. They are just not needed at all.

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 17th, 2015 at 9:40am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 17th, 2015 at 6:36am:

Amadd wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:53pm:
I'm not a lib, but I can understand that electricity companies need to make a profit. There are workers to pay, overheads, etc., etc.

The 66 cent feed-in wasn't just a good deal, it was an awesome deal, designed to get the punters in and the solar companies up and running.
It worked very well I think, and if you were one of the first on board, your solar system has probably already paid for itself a few times over.

So, no need to be greedy about it. After all, the prime objective was to do something for the environment wasn't it?


that's right...

you have to ask why the biggest whingers of climate change don't have a solar system on the roof themselves helping the environment...

Greens Win
Nails
Bobby
etc...


so now this thread is about climate change :D LOL

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 17th, 2015 at 11:17am

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 17th, 2015 at 9:39am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 17th, 2015 at 6:30am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:24pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 9:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:11pm:
What's your feed in tariff?


6 cents from the consumer with rooftop solar vs 25 cents from greed incorporated !!

Greed incorporated is stealing energy from the consumers and the government was implicit in it when it forced everyone to replace their perfectly working electro mechanical meters with dumb meters and selling the lie that these meters could be used to lower their bills :(

Only a brain dead liberal would think this was an equitable arrangement :(



hear hear  sir Nail.

That was Libbos keeping the rich richer so the poor get the picture.


now there's your second mistake bobby...

you listen to that dickhead Nails..

the Labor government in Victoria "forced" all Victorians to have the smart meter and to pay for the privilege..

it was always about making money for the electricity retailers so that they didn't have to send a meter reader out...

solar systems are good..

solar systems will save you $1000 a year on average for an average person who uses power throughout the day.. families, pensioners etc

get on it..  :)


and making us pay for their f.cking meters just to add insult to injury :(

and what on earth do we need electricity retailers for ? We never needed them before this privitization scam.

Who's hare brained idea was this ?

Electricity retailers are like having retailers sell you air or rain water. They are just not needed at all.



Hear hear sir Nail,

it's all part of the capitalist plan.

The rich get richer & the poor get the picture.

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by freediver on Feb 17th, 2015 at 6:51pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:03pm:
Says Crookonit and FD..

well... you keep telling yourselves that...


and i'll keep laughing all the way to the bank...  ;D


All rorts are great if you are on the receiving end.

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by Honky on Feb 17th, 2015 at 6:55pm

freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2015 at 6:51pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 16th, 2015 at 6:03pm:
Says Crookonit and FD..

well... you keep telling yourselves that...


and i'll keep laughing all the way to the bank...  ;D


All rorts are great if you are on the receiving end.


Of course they are, but lets not kid ourselves that this is some exclusive club.  Anyone with half a brain would have signed up for the scheme in it's early stages.

Title: Re: Solar Systems are no good..
Post by freediver on Feb 17th, 2015 at 8:58pm
That makes it a very expensive rort. Many were excluded.

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