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Samantha Lewthwaite, a "bright and popular" British schoolgirl who went on to become one of the world’s most wanted terror suspects, has reportedly been shot dead by a Russian sniper. Dubbed the White Widow, the mother-of-four was married to a London suicide bomber and has since been named as a suspect in several major terrorist plots around the world. Wanted by Interpol, she has most recently reported to have been training recruits for terrorist organisation ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and Syria]. Yesterday a Russian news agency, Regnum, reported that Lewthwaite was killed while fighting as a sniper in Ukraine – but this has not yet been confirmed by independent sources and there has been speculation it could be propaganda. "One of the world's most wanted terrorists Samantha Lewthwaite who fought as part of a Ukrainian battalion has been killed by a volunteer sniper," said the news agency report from Moscow. "The Russian sniper who killed the British terrorist now has a price of nearly one million dollars on his head from Ukrainian special services." Born in Northern Ireland and raised in the UK, Lewthwaite converted to Islam as a teenager after her parents split up. She became increasingly devout and married Germaine Lindsay, who blew himself up on a Tube train in the London 7/7 bomb attacks in 2005 and with whom she had two children. Afterwards, she sold her story to a tabloid newspaper, portraying herself as an innocent wife who had no idea of her then 19-year-old husband's intentions. But it later emerged she had associated with Mohammad Sidique Khan, who was ringleader of the London bombers, before the attacks. She allegedly remarried and had third child in the UK before disappearing with her three children in 2009. The following year, she had another child in South Africa. It's believed the father is Abdi Wahid, a former Kenyan naval officer who defected to terror group al-Shabaab (to which Lewthwaite was also linked). Lewthwaite was named as a suspect in a terrorist call plot to bomb the Kenyan port city of Mombasa in 2012 and other activity in East Africa. She was also alleged to have been involved in the deadly terror siege at a shopping mall in Nairobi in 2013. Lewthwaite’s family – including her ex-British soldier dad and Irish Catholic mum - was distraught by her transformation from ordinary schoolgirl into suspected terrorist.

 
http://www.aww.com.au/news-features/news-stories/2014/11/white-widow-terror-mum-shot-dead?action_object_map=%5B730712230352152%5D&action_type_map=%5B#_



islam the death cult

Islam is just another word these days for psychotic murderous cult for the mentally slow. I love the plebs who call themselves moderates and go against its teachings by being so and moan biatch and whine about old mohammered starring in a cartoon and hold rallies and burn churches over that in multiple countries. Then mo's the word when it comes to rallies against the so called MUSLIM non moderate murdering raping and pillaging like good old islam teaches in its ideology. It only shows their level of retardation and incoherency of reasoning faculties.

Its simple don't hire murderers don't buy from them. Report them and steer clear of them and never help them. Just treat em like the NAZI criminals they are. They reap what they sow and the whole world can see what they sow.

It is a shame there are so many backward people in the world that think following a murderous pedophile who invents a fake god is helpful to them. Mental illness is a sad sad thing.

I think for a lot Westerners it just doesn't come home until someone close to them is maimed or murdered. Until then they can hide from reality with out-dated pacifist-humanist perspectives that Muslims despise anyway.   

you are very closed minded on this one sprint....

lets face it...we have had many serial killers some like Dr Shipman could have been responsible for over 250 deaths..yet no one ever asked what religious b eliefs he had...

are you saying should he have been an Anglican all Anglicans are guilty of mass murder???...or at the least capeable..

what about CHarlie Manson??...he too was probably Christened into a faith...Ted Bundy...

its a long bow sprint.

cods you are trying to reason with someone who has openly and repeatedly called for the indiscriminate persecution and murder of people because of their personal beliefs.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 10:54am:

cods you are trying to reason with someone who has openly and repeatedly called for the indiscriminate persecution and murder of people because of their personal beliefs.

Just like Islam.

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 11^th, 2015 at 9:22pm:

Islam is just another word these days for psychotic murderous cult for the mentally slow. I love the plebs who call themselves moderates and go against its teachings by being so and moan biatch and whine about old mohammered starring in a cartoon and hold rallies and burn churches over that in multiple countries. Then mo's the word when it comes to rallies against the so called MUSLIM non moderate murdering raping and pillaging like good old islam teaches in its ideology. It only shows their level of retardation and incoherency of reasoning faculties. Its simple don't hire murderers don't buy from them. Report them and steer clear of them and never help them. Just treat em like the NAZI criminals they are. They reap what they sow and the whole world can see what they sow. It is a shame there are so many backward people in the world that think following a murderous pedophile who invents a fake god is helpful to them. Mental illness is a sad sad thing.

bump.

i see muslims as being like zombies

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 1:14pm:

i see muslims as being like zombies

...as opposed to sprint with his daily "another muslim" threads.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 1:39pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 1:14pm: i see muslims as being like zombies ...as opposed to sprint with his daily "another muslim" threads.

is that how often another muslim commits a terrorist attack against an infidel ?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 1:14pm:

i see muslims as being like zombies

Here we go again, with Sprint's "logic".

"All terrorists are Muslims" -wrong

"Therefore, all Muslims are terrorists" - wrong

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 1:57pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 1:14pm: i see muslims as being like zombies Here we go again, with Sprint's "logic". "All terrorists are Muslims" -wrong "Therefore, all Muslims are terrorists" - wrong

Well technically its 99% of all terrorists are muslim but if you allow for a margin of error you can say its all.  ;)

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 2:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 1:57pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 1:14pm: i see muslims as being like zombies Here we go again, with Sprint's "logic". "All terrorists are Muslims" -wrong "Therefore, all Muslims are terrorists" - wrong Well technically its 99% of all terrorists are muslim but if you allow for a margin of error you can say its all.  ;)

how many times has this been shown to be false?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 1:46pm:

is that how often another muslim commits a terrorist attack against an infidel ?

There are over a billion muslims. Its not hard to find at least one misbehaving every day if you are as obsessed about it as you are.

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 2:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 1:57pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 1:14pm: i see muslims as being like zombies Here we go again, with Sprint's "logic". "All terrorists are Muslims" -wrong "Therefore, all Muslims are terrorists" - wrong Well technically its 99% of all terrorists are muslim but if you allow for a margin of error you can say its all.  ;)

That's not even close to being true.

However, for the sake of your "argument", we'll say that you're right: all terrorists are Muslims. 

That doesn't mean that all Muslims are terrorists, though.  You do understand that, don't you?

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 10:54am:

cods you are trying to reason with someone who has openly and repeatedly called for the indiscriminate persecution and murder of people because of their personal beliefs.

I am waiting for him to claim all Catholics are Paedophiles and should be in jail...

I like people who LUMP all in the one basket. ::)..

trouble is you have to do it with  everyone not just the few you select..

he has probably never even met a Muslim.... or maybe even a Catholic for that matter.. ;)

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 4:11pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 2:35pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 1:57pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 1:14pm: i see muslims as being like zombies Here we go again, with Sprint's "logic". "All terrorists are Muslims" -wrong "Therefore, all Muslims are terrorists" - wrong Well technically its 99% of all terrorists are muslim but if you allow for a margin of error you can say its all.  ;) That's not even close to being true. However, for the sake of your "argument", we'll say that you're right: all terrorists are Muslims.  That doesn't mean that all Muslims are terrorists, though.  You do understand that, don't you?

theres still a few in Ireland... ::) ::) but dont tell sprint...and they have been terrorising  each other for over 700 years.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 1:46pm: is that how often another muslim commits a terrorist attack against an infidel ? There are over a billion muslims. Its not hard to find at least one misbehaving every day if you are as obsessed about it as you are.

Usual diversionery reply

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 1:46pm: is that how often another muslim commits a terrorist attack against an infidel ? There are over a billion muslims. Its not hard to find at least one misbehaving every day if you are as obsessed about it as you are.

Quote:

.............least one misbehaving every day .....

What, you mean murdering, beheading or shooting an infidel ?

sprint if a loved one needed a kidney transplant to remain alive and the only one that made the cut was from a  Muslim.. would you say NO...even though they would die very soon...

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 4:11pm:

That doesn't mean that all Muslims are terrorists, though.  You do understand that, don't you?

Of course not all muslims are terrorists that would be a ridiculous assertion, I use the one third rule, one third are pro terror, although almost all pro terror muslims would never engage in terror themselves, one third are anti terror and one third don't really give a sh!t either way.

Why the one third rule?, because thats how most people vote on most issues.  ;)

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 1:46pm: is that how often another muslim commits a terrorist attack against an infidel ? There are over a billion muslims. Its not hard to find at least one misbehaving every day if you are as obsessed about it as you are.

Who else is beheading aid workers on Youtube vids, or soldiers in London streets, who else burns captives alive in a cage, riot over cartoons, books, other people's Youtube vids?

Muslims, fired up by Islam.

Nobody else.

For you to shrug your shoulder about this as nothing but obsession about unrepresentative events then you belong to the same broad category of people who perpetrate these hideous things in the name of Allah and in imitation of Mohammed.

Islam is the reason for Islamist violence. You share Islam with them. Shrugging your shoulder and washing your hands of them is not an option for you.

Soren wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 6:23pm:

You share Islam with them.

Therefore its my fault?

Tell me S, if someone declaring to represent the values of secular Judeo-Christian values and who identified as a member of the European/secular/judeo-christian group went to a student political camp and slaughtered around 70 students citing his secular/Judeo-Christian beliefs as justification for his murder...

....what do you think S? Give me one good reason I shouldn't be self indulgently stalking you and non-to-subtly inferring that you are responsible for this man's crime on the sole basis of your shared identity and beliefs? Perhaps its all down to whether or not youtube is used?

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 8:24am:

Soren wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 6:23pm: You share Islam with them. Therefore its my fault? Tell me S, if someone declaring to represent the values of secular Judeo-Christian values and who identified as a member of the European/secular/judeo-christian group went to a student political camp and slaughtered around 70 students citing his secular/Judeo-Christian beliefs as justification for his murder... ....what do you think S? Give me one good reason I shouldn't be self indulgently stalking you and non-to-subtly inferring that you are responsible for this man's crime on the sole basis of your shared identity and beliefs? Perhaps its all down to whether or not youtube is used?

but they don't gand, and that's the point.

Christianity , the new testament has no calls to jihad, no calls to violence, no fatwahs.
its all hippy, lovey, peace out man, forgive, pacifist, blessed are the meek stuff.

theres nothing in what Christ said that is in any way mean, unkind or a call to violence (except maybe asking the money lenders to vacate the temple).

Jesus was a ripper bloke.
Mo maybe not so much a ripper bloke.

i think a reasonable person would come to that conclusion.

the world has nothing to fear from what jesus said.
not one thing.
i don't believe in heaven or hell, or resurrection, or immaculate conceptions but i totally believe that jesus is a force that is totally good.  no one has ever convinced me otherwise.

the world would be a better place if all the Mo's converted. that's not islamophobia or an aetheist speaking.

that's someone with a reasonable brain who has read what both men preached

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 8:24am:

Soren wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 6:23pm: You share Islam with them. Therefore its my fault? Tell me S, if someone declaring to represent the values of secular Judeo-Christian values and who identified as a member of the European/secular/judeo-christian group went to a student political camp and slaughtered around 70 students citing his secular/Judeo-Christian beliefs as justification for his murder... ....what do you think S? Give me one good reason I shouldn't be self indulgently stalking you and non-to-subtly inferring that you are responsible for this man's crime on the sole basis of your shared identity and beliefs? Perhaps its all down to whether or not youtube is used?

1 Brevik (ie no pattern of behaviour, an aberration) versus about 9000 Christian killed and over 11,000 injured by Muslims since 11 Sept 2001, solely because they were Christians
A lot more attacks go unreported.

So 1 aberration versus a very long list demonstrating an undeniable and very clear pattern.  http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/ChristianAttacks.htm


Nobody ever said it is your FAULT.

But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else.

Like everyone else, you need to look at how and why Islam motivates these murders. And then change Islam - or abandon it.

Soren wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 8:39am:

Nobody ever said it is your FAULT.

While I appreciate that sentiment, I nonetheless beg to differ.

You've been lecturing me for months about how I (yes, me personally) am never organising street protests to condemn terrorism and that I, personally, act in a way that emboldens the terrorists and allows the problem to fester.

You have very specifically argued the direct causal link between this behaviour by me and other muslims and terrorism

So, please Soren, don't patronise me now. You *DO* think its my and every other muslim's fault for every terrorist that invokes the name of Islam. Lets stop the BS shall we? You're no better than a non-religious version of Yadda.

And yeah, you are a hypocrite for not applying the same standards to yourself and every other "apologist" for western/judeo-christian atrocities. 

aquascoot wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 8:37am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:24am: Soren wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 6:23pm: You share Islam with them. Therefore its my fault? Tell me S, if someone declaring to represent the values of secular Judeo-Christian values and who identified as a member of the European/secular/judeo-christian group went to a student political camp and slaughtered around 70 students citing his secular/Judeo-Christian beliefs as justification for his murder... ....what do you think S? Give me one good reason I shouldn't be self indulgently stalking you and non-to-subtly inferring that you are responsible for this man's crime on the sole basis of your shared identity and beliefs? Perhaps its all down to whether or not youtube is used? but they don't gand, and that's the point. Christianity , the new testament has no calls to jihad, no calls to violence, no fatwahs. its all hippy, lovey, peace out man, forgive, pacifist, blessed are the meek stuff. theres nothing in what Christ said that is in any way mean, unkind or a call to violence (except maybe asking the money lenders to vacate the temple). Jesus was a ripper bloke. Mo maybe not so much a ripper bloke. i think a reasonable person would come to that conclusion. the world has nothing to fear from what jesus said. not one thing. i don't believe in heaven or hell, or resurrection, or immaculate conceptions but i totally believe that jesus is a force that is totally good.  no one has ever convinced me otherwise. the world would be a better place if all the Mo's converted. that's not islamophobia or an aetheist speaking. that's someone with a reasonable brain who has read what both men preached

I'm not talking about religious crime. Breivik wasn't religious, but he definitely *DID* identify with the same racial/cultural group as Soren, and championed the same ideology and values.

Soren wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 6:23pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 3:56pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 1:46pm: is that how often another muslim commits a terrorist attack against an infidel ? There are over a billion muslims. Its not hard to find at least one misbehaving every day if you are as obsessed about it as you are. Who else is beheading aid workers on Youtube vids, or soldiers in London streets, who else burns captives alive in a cage, riot over cartoons, books, other people's Youtube vids? Muslims, fired up by Islam. Nobody else. For you to shrug your shoulder about this as nothing but obsession about unrepresentative events then you belong to the same broad category of people who perpetrate these hideous things in the name of Allah and in imitation of Mohammed. Islam is the reason for Islamist violence. You share Islam with them. Shrugging your shoulder and washing your hands of them is not an option for you.

bump

Soren wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 8:39am:

But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else.

Nothing else?

Are you sure about that, Sore End?

You have a very long history of being wrong.

Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over.

if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ?

had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ?

you're right sprint - when regular murderers kill people without draping themselves in the ISIS flag, it makes the victims less dead, and the crime less heinous.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 10:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ?

None of us can say for sure.

However, there is something seriously wrong with these people to start with.

I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam.

It's just not in my nature.  Killing is wrong, and no book could ever convince me otherwise.

Islam is the trigger setting these lunatics off now, however, if Islam never existed they would still find an excuse to kill.

issuevoter wrote on Feb 12^th, 2015 at 1:07pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 10:54am: cods you are trying to reason with someone who has openly and repeatedly called for the indiscriminate persecution and murder of people because of their personal beliefs. Just like Islam.

not quite..

just the fanatics....

we have a few on the otherside.. they do untold harm as well ..

we have what we call break away religions...but the fundamentals are all the there....just a different interpretation of the good book.. ::) ::)

Jonesville for starters..WACO for another...then we have Scientology and Jehovah Witness

which I have heard where if a member of a family leaves the church then the rest are not allowed to have anything to do with them...because one of their teachings is they are not allowed to associate with anyone other than other Witness'..

all extreme all secretive..do they kill.. well not in the true sense...but they sure do a lot of harm...

I dread to think how many sects we have created over the years but  all have a very sick history of abuse..

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 10:54am:

you're right sprint - when regular murderers kill people without draping themselves in the ISIS flag, it makes the victims less dead, and the crime less heinous.

you noticed?.. ::) ::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 10:55am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ? None of us can say for sure. However, there is something seriously wrong with these people to start with. I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam. what if they gave you no choice.. once you had joined up.......I believe you dont just wal away from those guys.. and you dont just disobey them either.. It's just not in my nature.  Killing is wrong, and no book could ever convince me otherwise. Islam is the trigger setting these lunatics off now, however, if Islam never existed they would still find an excuse to kill.

born to kill you are saying??????

cods wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 10:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:55am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ? None of us can say for sure. However, there is something seriously wrong with these people to start with. I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam. what if they gave you no choice.. once you had joined up.......I believe you dont just wal away from those guys.. and you dont just disobey them either.. It's just not in my nature.  Killing is wrong, and no book could ever convince me otherwise. Islam is the trigger setting these lunatics off now, however, if Islam never existed they would still find an excuse to kill. born to kill you are saying??????

Not my words but, something along those lines, yes.

Some people are just bad bastards.

4 children to 3 different sand nagger jihadists. They passed her around like a peace pipe. At least the breeding has been stopped.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 10:55am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ? None of us can say for sure.

Yes, we can say for sure.  They say it themselves.  They are allahu akhbaring, quoting the Koran and Mohammed's example as they carry out the deed and when they talk about it afterwards.  They never forget to declare their Islamic motivation loud and clear.

But as a self-conceited prat, you pretend to have a better insight into their stated motivation than they do themselves. 

Soren wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 11:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:55am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ? None of us can say for sure. Yes, we can say for sure.  They say it themselves.  They are allahu akhbaring, quoting the Koran and Mohammed's example as they carry out the deed and when they talk about it afterwards.  They never forget to declare their Islamic motivation loud and clear. But as a self-conceited prat, you pretend to have a better insight into their stated motivation than they do themselves.

Once again, you are confused.

Nobody is disputing the fact that Islam is one of the motivators.

However, none of us can say for sure that they would have done the same thing if they were not Muslims.  They might have, they might not have.  I'm inclined to believe that they would have, because some people are just bad bastards; they'll find any excuse to kill.

Perhaps you should have your nanny nap, then read the posts again, and see if you can come up with an intelligent reply after that.

You're really struggling this morning, Sore End.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 10:55am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ? None of us can say for sure. However, there is something seriously wrong with these people to start with. I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam. It's just not in my nature.  Killing is wrong, and no book could ever convince me otherwise. Islam is the trigger setting these lunatics off now, however, if Islam never existed they would still find an excuse to kill.

Quote:

............I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam...............

and how do you know that ?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 11:53am:

Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:45am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:55am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ? None of us can say for sure. Yes, we can say for sure.  They say it themselves.  They are allahu akhbaring, quoting the Koran and Mohammed's example as they carry out the deed and when they talk about it afterwards.  They never forget to declare their Islamic motivation loud and clear. But as a self-conceited prat, you pretend to have a better insight into their stated motivation than they do themselves.  Once again, you are confused. Nobody is disputing the fact that Islam is one of the motivators. However, none of us can say for sure that they would have done the same thing if they were not Muslims.  They might have, they might not have.

Nobody else goes on a rampage over cartoons or vids or books, only Muslims do this over Mohammed cartoons, vids, books.

You are trying to be nuanced but you are just stupid.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 12:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:55am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ? None of us can say for sure. However, there is something seriously wrong with these people to start with. I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam. It's just not in my nature.  Killing is wrong, and no book could ever convince me otherwise. Islam is the trigger setting these lunatics off now, however, if Islam never existed they would still find an excuse to kill. Quote: ............I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam............... and how do you know that ?

I know that because I think killing is wrong.

I'm a good person, not a bad bastard.

No book or religion could convince me to kill.

Soren wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 1:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:53am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:45am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:55am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ? None of us can say for sure. Yes, we can say for sure.  They say it themselves.  They are allahu akhbaring, quoting the Koran and Mohammed's example as they carry out the deed and when they talk about it afterwards.  They never forget to declare their Islamic motivation loud and clear. But as a self-conceited prat, you pretend to have a better insight into their stated motivation than they do themselves.  Once again, you are confused. Nobody is disputing the fact that Islam is one of the motivators. However, none of us can say for sure that they would have done the same thing if they were not Muslims.  They might have, they might not have.  Nobody else goes on a rampage over cartoons or vids or books, only Muslims do this over Mohammed cartoons, vids, books.

True.

Why are you changing the subject though?

If you remove the motivation, Islam, they would not be killing people.

You are implying that they would have been fanatical about something else - as if anyone who kills or threatens violence in the name of Islam is a mental case and would be violent regardless of the their motivations.  This is so eyewateringly stupid that only an idiot like you could possible 1/ think of it and 2/ not dismiss the thought.

Oh, and before you roll out your next massive idiocy  - everyone who believes in a religion is a mental case - remember that all your ancestors until very, very recently were god-fearing religious people, therefore you have inherited their mental defects.



The logical conclusion of your idiotic stance is that anyone born into Islam should be regularly screened and isolated from society at the first sign of mental instability lest they go apesh!t.  It also means, of course, that Islam was founded by a mental defective - killing in the name of Islam follows Mohammed's numerous examples - and so everyone who credits Islam or believes in it is therefore crediting/following a mental case and is also a mental case. Therefore all Muslims must be detained as mentally defectives lest they spontaneously kill or maim someone.




You are a colossal idiot, but sadly you are very representative of your - very large - class of people, although to their credit very few of them are as proud and unrelenting idiots as you are. 

Soren wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 5:53pm:

If you remove the motivation, Islam, they would not be killing people.

Incorrect.

They are bad bastards to start with.

Islam is just an excuse.

If religion didn't exist, they'd probably still find a reason to hurt or kill people.

Or, are you suggesting that if religion didn't exist, they would be normal, law-abiding citizens?

You're not that silly, are you?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 1:20pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 12:47pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:55am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ? None of us can say for sure. However, there is something seriously wrong with these people to start with. I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam. It's just not in my nature.  Killing is wrong, and no book could ever convince me otherwise. Islam is the trigger setting these lunatics off now, however, if Islam never existed they would still find an excuse to kill. Quote: ............I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam............... and how do you know that ? I know that because I think killing is wrong. I'm a good person, not a bad bastard. No book or religion could convince me to kill.

Sounds fair to me.

Most people seem to know right from wrong innately.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 5:56pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 5:53pm: If you remove the motivation, Islam, they would not be killing people. Incorrect. They are bad bastards to start with. Islam is just an excuse. If religion didn't exist, they'd probably still find a reason to hurt or kill people. Or, are you suggesting that if religion didn't exist, they would be normal, law-abiding citizens? You're not that silly, are you?

;D
Keep talking, prat, let the world hear you.



There are no comparable fanatics outside Islam on such scale.  Islam therefore must be held responsible for producing an unproportionately huge number of murderous fanatics.

Soren wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 6:18pm:

Islam therefore must be held responsible for producing an unproportionately huge number of murderous fanatics.

Yes.

Why have you changed the subject, though?

It seems that every time I put you in your place, you change the subject.

You know how transparent that is don't you, Sore End?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 6:21pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:18pm: Islam therefore must be held responsible for producing an unproportionately huge number of murderous fanatics. Yes. Why have you changed the subject, though? It seems that every time I put you in your place, you change the subject. You know how transparent that is don't you, Sore End?

How is this changing the subject, prat?

You say this as if it was an argument, but really it's because you are caught out, again and again, as an idiot and all you can say, like the 12 year old that you are, is 'oh, that changes the subject'.

You are an amazingly stunted little invertebrate, gweg.

Soren wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:21pm: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:18pm: Islam therefore must be held responsible for producing an unproportionately huge number of murderous fanatics. Yes. Why have you changed the subject, though? It seems that every time I put you in your place, you change the subject. You know how transparent that is don't you, Sore End? How is this changing the subject, prat?

We were talking about what these idiots would do if there was NO religion.

Yet, somehow, you changed it back to Islam.

Every time I hand you your arse on a plate (which is pretty much every day), you change the subject.

Everyone is onto you, Sore End.

The jig is up.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 6:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 1:20pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 12:47pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:55am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ? None of us can say for sure. However, there is something seriously wrong with these people to start with. I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam. It's just not in my nature.  Killing is wrong, and no book could ever convince me otherwise. Islam is the trigger setting these lunatics off now, however, if Islam never existed they would still find an excuse to kill. Quote: ............I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam............... and how do you know that ? I know that because I think killing is wrong. I'm a good person, not a bad bastard. No book or religion could convince me to kill. Sounds fair to me. Most people seem to know right from wrong innately.

That's correct.

If you can be convinced by religion to kill someone, then you can be convinced by other means as well. You quite simply don't understand right from wrong.

Absolutely nothing in the world would convince me to kill someone.

However, these terrorists are just itching to cause harm, and Islam is their excuse.

Remove religion, and they'd find another excuse to kill.

They are inherently bad people.

It's not as if they would be law-abiding citizens if religion never existed.  Nobody honestly believes that.

Islam isn't an excuse Islam teaches it.

Do some study before continuing to babble on.

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 6:53pm:

Islam isn't an excuse Islam teaches it. Do some study before continuing to babble on.

And if Islam didn't teach/convince them, something else would.

It's just an excuse.

If Islam didn't exist, they'd find another excuse.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 6:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:06pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 1:20pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 12:47pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:55am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ? None of us can say for sure. However, there is something seriously wrong with these people to start with. I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam. It's just not in my nature.  Killing is wrong, and no book could ever convince me otherwise. Islam is the trigger setting these lunatics off now, however, if Islam never existed they would still find an excuse to kill. Quote: ............I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam............... and how do you know that ? I know that because I think killing is wrong. I'm a good person, not a bad bastard. No book or religion could convince me to kill. Sounds fair to me. Most people seem to know right from wrong innately. That's correct. If you can be convinced by religion to kill someone, then you can be convinced by other means as well. You quite simply don't understand right from wrong. Absolutely nothing in the world would convince me to kill someone. However, these terrorists are just itching to cause harm, and Islam is their excuse. Remove religion, and they'd find another excuse to kill. They are inherently bad people. It's not as if they would be law-abiding citizens if religion never existed.  Nobody honestly believes that.

oh, I disagree with you.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 6:35pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:26pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:21pm: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:18pm: Islam therefore must be held responsible for producing an unproportionately huge number of murderous fanatics. Yes. Why have you changed the subject, though? It seems that every time I put you in your place, you change the subject. You know how transparent that is don't you, Sore End? How is this changing the subject, prat? We were talking about what these idiots would do if there was NO religion. Yet, somehow, you changed it back to Islam. Every time I hand you your arse on a plate (which is pretty much every day), you change the subject. Everyone is onto you, Sore End. The jig is up.

;D ;D

Gaaaawd, you are fick.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 6:57pm:

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:53pm: Islam isn't an excuse Islam teaches it. Do some study before continuing to babble on. And if Islam didn't teach/convince them, something else would. It's just an excuse. If Islam didn't exist, they'd find another excuse.

Um, thats just illogical :-? :-?

Soren wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 7:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:35pm: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:26pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:21pm: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:18pm: Islam therefore must be held responsible for producing an unproportionately huge number of murderous fanatics. Yes. Why have you changed the subject, though? It seems that every time I put you in your place, you change the subject. You know how transparent that is don't you, Sore End? How is this changing the subject, prat? We were talking about what these idiots would do if there was NO religion. Yet, somehow, you changed it back to Islam. Every time I hand you your arse on a plate (which is pretty much every day), you change the subject. Everyone is onto you, Sore End. The jig is up. ;D ;D Gaaaawd, you are fick.

A change of subject, once again.

The jig is up, old boy.

aquascoot wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 7:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:57pm: SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:53pm: Islam isn't an excuse Islam teaches it. Do some study before continuing to babble on. And if Islam didn't teach/convince them, something else would. It's just an excuse. If Islam didn't exist, they'd find another excuse. Um, thats just illogical :-? :-?

No, it's completely logical ... to reasonable people.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 6:57pm:

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:53pm: Islam isn't an excuse Islam teaches it. Do some study before continuing to babble on. And if Islam didn't teach/convince them, something else would. It's just an excuse. If Islam didn't exist, they'd find another excuse.

What a vivid imagination you have.

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 7:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:57pm: SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:53pm: Islam isn't an excuse Islam teaches it. Do some study before continuing to babble on. And if Islam didn't teach/convince them, something else would. It's just an excuse. If Islam didn't exist, they'd find another excuse. What a vivid imagination you have.

Yet, I can't imagine you ever making a sensible post.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 7:20pm:

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:17pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:57pm: SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:53pm: Islam isn't an excuse Islam teaches it. Do some study before continuing to babble on. And if Islam didn't teach/convince them, something else would. It's just an excuse. If Islam didn't exist, they'd find another excuse. What a vivid imagination you have. Yet, I can't imagine you ever making a sensible post.

No surprises there.

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 7:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:20pm: SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:17pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:57pm: SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:53pm: Islam isn't an excuse Islam teaches it. Do some study before continuing to babble on. And if Islam didn't teach/convince them, something else would. It's just an excuse. If Islam didn't exist, they'd find another excuse. What a vivid imagination you have. Yet, I can't imagine you ever making a sensible post. No surprises there.

Glad you agree    ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 7:36pm:

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:20pm: SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:17pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:57pm: SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:53pm: Islam isn't an excuse Islam teaches it. Do some study before continuing to babble on. And if Islam didn't teach/convince them, something else would. It's just an excuse. If Islam didn't exist, they'd find another excuse. What a vivid imagination you have. Yet, I can't imagine you ever making a sensible post. No surprises there. Glad you agree    ;D

I knew that would sail right over your head.
Never mind ;D ;D ;D

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 7:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:36pm: SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:20pm: SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:17pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:57pm: SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:53pm: Islam isn't an excuse Islam teaches it. Do some study before continuing to babble on. And if Islam didn't teach/convince them, something else would. It's just an excuse. If Islam didn't exist, they'd find another excuse. What a vivid imagination you have. Yet, I can't imagine you ever making a sensible post. No surprises there. Glad you agree    ;D I knew that would sail right over your head. Never mind ;D ;D ;D

Every post you make just reinforces my point.

This is delightful.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 6:44pm:

It's not as if they would be law-abiding citizens if religion never existed.  Nobody honestly believes that.

They are law abiding citizens, dufus,  it's just that they do not believe in democratic, civilised law. They are sharia law abiding citizens.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 7:41pm:

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:36pm: SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:20pm: SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:17pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:57pm: SweetLambo wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:53pm: Islam isn't an excuse Islam teaches it. Do some study before continuing to babble on. And if Islam didn't teach/convince them, something else would. It's just an excuse. If Islam didn't exist, they'd find another excuse. What a vivid imagination you have. Yet, I can't imagine you ever making a sensible post. No surprises there. Glad you agree    ;D I knew that would sail right over your head. Never mind ;D ;D ;D Every post you make just reinforces my point. This is delightful.

Everyone know you are the village idiot and trust me that is delightful.
BTW Its still sailing way over your head ya little ferret ;D

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 9:16am:

Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: Nobody ever said it is your FAULT. While I appreciate that sentiment, I nonetheless beg to differ. You've been lecturing me for months about how I (yes, me personally) am never organising street protests to condemn terrorism and that I, personally, act in a way that emboldens the terrorists and allows the problem to fester. You have very specifically argued the direct causal link between this behaviour by me and other muslims and terrorism So, please Soren, don't patronise me now. You *DO* think its my and every other muslim's fault for every terrorist that invokes the name of Islam. Lets stop the BS shall we? You're no better than a non-religious version of Yadda. And yeah, you are a hypocrite for not applying the same standards to yourself and every other "apologist" for western/judeo-christian atrocities.

The victim mentality clouds your mind as it does to so many other Muslim minds.  You confuse FAULT with RESPONSIBILITY.  You exaggerate what I attribute to you - responsibility for Islam - into a hyperbole of faulting you for actual acts of strangers.

Every Muslim is responsible for Islam. They live it, they shape it, they teach it to others, they make it into a living, dynamic system of beliefs.  They - you - identify with Islam. I don't see how you can identify with something but pretend that thereby you do not in your own ways shape it. 

You try to pretend that you have no responsibility for the way Muslims and Islam are around you and across the Ummah.  You pretend that you, a Muslim, have no greater responsibility for how Muslims behave and what they propagate than I do or a Japanese SHintoist.

That's just preposterous.  It is also preposterous to pretend that thousands of Western Muslims fighting for various Islamist organisations have been unknown to all the Muslims who have remained behind in Western countries.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

cods wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:59am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:55am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ? None of us can say for sure. However, there is something seriously wrong with these people to start with. I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam. what if they gave you no choice.. once you had joined up.......I believe you dont just wal away from those guys.. and you dont just disobey them either.. It's just not in my nature.  Killing is wrong, and no book could ever convince me otherwise. Islam is the trigger setting these lunatics off now, however, if Islam never existed they would still find an excuse to kill. born to kill you are saying?????? Not my words but, something along those lines, yes. Some people are just bad bastards.

Why are SOOOO many of them Muslims?

Soren wrote on Feb 14^th, 2015 at 3:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:04am: cods wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:59am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:55am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ? None of us can say for sure. However, there is something seriously wrong with these people to start with. I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam. what if they gave you no choice.. once you had joined up.......I believe you dont just wal away from those guys.. and you dont just disobey them either.. It's just not in my nature.  Killing is wrong, and no book could ever convince me otherwise. Islam is the trigger setting these lunatics off now, however, if Islam never existed they would still find an excuse to kill. born to kill you are saying?????? Not my words but, something along those lines, yes. Some people are just bad bastards. Why are SOOOO many of them Muslims?

There are bad bastards everywhere.

Considering that around a quarter of the world's population is Muslim, it stands to reason (look that word up in a dictionary if you need to) that there are going to be a lot of bad Muslim bastards.

Tell us, Sore End, do you ever think before you post?

I assume that is a rhetorical question?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14^th, 2015 at 4:07pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 14th, 2015 at 3:15pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:04am: cods wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:59am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:55am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 8:39am: But you are responsible for Islam as are all other Muslims. And Islam is the motivation of these killings, nothing else. Nothing else? Are you sure about that, Sore End? You have a very long history of being wrong. Perhaps you should take some time to think that one over. if the terrorists were not muslims, would they have done the same thing ? had moh never existed, would the terrorists have done the same thing ? None of us can say for sure. However, there is something seriously wrong with these people to start with. I know that if I converted to Islam, and became a radical, I would never kill anyone in the name of Islam. what if they gave you no choice.. once you had joined up.......I believe you dont just wal away from those guys.. and you dont just disobey them either.. It's just not in my nature.  Killing is wrong, and no book could ever convince me otherwise. Islam is the trigger setting these lunatics off now, however, if Islam never existed they would still find an excuse to kill. born to kill you are saying?????? Not my words but, something along those lines, yes. Some people are just bad bastards. Why are SOOOO many of them Muslims? There are bad bastards everywhere. Considering that around a quarter of the world's population is Muslim, it stands to reason (look that word up in a dictionary if you need to) that there are going to be a lot of bad Muslim bastards. Tell us, Sore End, do you ever think before you post?

But the other three quarters are not beheading anyone on youtube, not burning POWs alive, not plotting terrorism against their host countries, not murdering Parisian cartoonists, English soldiers on leave in London, Canadian soldiers at the Ottawa cenotaph, cafe managers in Sydney, etc, etc.

The other three quarters do not submit to an ideology that justifies and praises such behaviour, whose founder showed the way for this kind of behaviour by personal example, an ideology whose history is loaded with just this kind of behaviour.

To pretend that being a jihadi Muslim is just being 'bad ass' is immensely stupid, dishonest and sinister - and you two, gweg and Bwain, are just the kind of people who will whole-heartedly sign up to such a stupid, dishonest and sinister stance.