el-Gandalf and his ilk have yet to understand this basic truth, and so we witness people like him and his sycophantic ratpack of trolling followers defending Islam ONLY from the point of view of the relatively harmless majority.

Here she is again, once more for the umpteenth time having to make this very same point to a 'moderate' Muslim who simply cannot accept that the west is at war with Islam despite the vast majority of Muslims being non-combative.

Take notice of what this speaker says at the very end of her harangue.

She makes a very telling point when she admonishes this Muslim who is now an 'American citizen' - telling her that it's about time she began thinking in terms of speaking up on behalf of America and Americans - instead of 'Islam' and Muslims.

link

Speaking on the occasion of the slaughter of American consulate staff in Bengazi, Libya....


at, 4m 05s

Quote:

"You're an American citizen? So as an American citizen you sat in this room and instead of standing up and saying a question, or asking something about our 4 Americans that died, and what our government is doing to correct the problem, you stood there to make a point about peaceful moderate moslems. I wish that you had brought ten with you, to question about what, how we can hold our government responsible."

Brigitte Gabriel gives FANTASTIC answer to Muslim woman claiming all Muslims are portrayed badly         goto 4m 05s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

Yadda wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 9:31am:

moderate moslems

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-L3p-4SCdLC8/VMeMHwP6RkI/AAAAAAACzns/rdT5OFaadP8/s1600/theo3.jpg

post #2.

Yup.

The truth is, that Saudi Arabia [the historic birthplace of ISLAM], and, present day Saudis, represent moderate and pure ISLAM.

Who are we [mere, ignorant infidels] to doubt the advice an opinion of such moderate people [Saudis].         :-X



e.g.

http://img.youtube.com/vi/sjGjj6VSmSQ/0.jpg

"ISLAM is a peaceful, tolerant faith."

....insist an international coterie of Islamic scholars who all back MAINSTREAM ISLAMIC doctrines.





Quote:

6 Elements of ‘Extremist’ Islam That ‘Moderate’ Muslims Endorsed as They Condemned the Islamic State Robert Spencer      Sep 30, 2014 Hamas-linked CAIR and an international coterie of Islamic scholars condemned the Islamic State. In doing so, they endorsed jihad warfare, dhimmitude, stoning for adultery, amputation for theft, the death penalty for apostasy, and the necessity of the caliphate.....     At last, moderate Islam! The Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the Fiqh Council of North America held a press conference in Washington on Wednesday at which they announced with great fanfare that they had refuted the religious ideology of the Islamic State. They issued this lengthy “open letter” (not, interestingly enough, a fatwa) addressed to the Islamic State’s caliph Ibrahim, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, explaining how he was misunderstanding Islam. [BUT.....] In fact, the “moderates” who signed on to this open letter have ended up endorsing elements of Islam that most non-Muslim Westerners consider to be “extremist.”

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/robert-spencer-in-pj-media-6-elements-of-extremist-islam-that-moderate-muslims-endorsed-as-they-condemned-the-islamic-state
http://pjmedia.com/blog/6-elements-of-extremist-islam-that-moderate-muslims-endorsed-as-they-condemned-the-islamic-state/?singlepage=true

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1412206324/0#0



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AND....


Quote:

Creed of the sword Mark Durie September 23, 2006 .....the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdel Aziz al-Sheikh, issued a statement on the official Saudi news service, defending Muslims' divine right to resort to violence: "The spread of Islam has gone through several phases, secret and then public, in Mecca and Medina. God then authorised the faithful to defend themselves and to fight against those fighting them, which amounts to a right legitimised by God. This ... is quite reasonable, and God will not hate it." Saudi Arabia's most senior cleric also explained that war was never Islam's ancient founder, the prophet Mohammed's, first choice: "He gave three options: either accept Islam, or surrender and pay tax, and they will be allowed to remain in their land, observing their religion under the protection of Muslims." Thus, according to the Grand Mufti, the third option of violence against non-Muslims was only a last resort, if they refused to convert or surrender peacefully to the armies of Islam. .......At the beginning, in Mohammed's Meccan period, when he was weaker and his followers few, passages of the Koran encouraged peaceful relations and avoidance of conflict: "Invite (all) to the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious." (16:125) Later, after persecution and emigration to Medina in the first year of the Islamic calendar, authority was given to engage in warfare for defensive purposes only: "Fight in the path of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits, for God does not love transgressors." (2:190) As the Muslim community grew stronger and conflict with its neighbours did not abate, further revelations expanded the licence for waging war, until in Sura 9, regarded as one of the last chapters to be revealed, it is concluded that war against non-Muslims could be waged more or less at any time and in any place to extend the dominance of Islam.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20460114-601,00.html

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 1:20pm:

el-Gandalf and his ilk have yet to understand this basic truth, and so we witness people like him and his sycophantic ratpack of trolling followers defending Islam ONLY from the point of view of the relatively harmless majority. Here she is again, once more for the umpteenth time having to make this very same point to a 'moderate' Muslim who simply cannot accept that the west is at war with Islam despite the vast majority of Muslims being non-combative. Take notice of what this speaker says at the very end of her harangue. She makes a very telling point when she admonishes this Muslim who is now an 'American citizen' - telling her that it's about time she began thinking in terms of speaking up on behalf of America and Americans - instead of 'Islam' and Muslims. link

She is a busy lady.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/deborah-weiss/saba-ahmed-unveiled/

Adamant wrote on Jan 31^st, 2015 at 11:42am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 24th, 2015 at 1:20pm: el-Gandalf and his ilk have yet to understand this basic truth, and so we witness people like him and his sycophantic ratpack of trolling followers defending Islam ONLY from the point of view of the relatively harmless majority. Here she is again, once more for the umpteenth time having to make this very same point to a 'moderate' Muslim who simply cannot accept that the west is at war with Islam despite the vast majority of Muslims being non-combative. Take notice of what this speaker says at the very end of her harangue. She makes a very telling point when she admonishes this Muslim who is now an 'American citizen' - telling her that it's about time she began thinking in terms of speaking up on behalf of America and Americans - instead of 'Islam' and Muslims. link She is a busy lady. http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/deborah-weiss/saba-ahmed-unveiled/

adamant,

Interesting.

I noticed too, that the individual in question, Saba Ahmed, has a presence in the COMMENTS section of the article.