Bullet points seem appropriate, but too complicated and scary for me.

- I suggest the jihadists and their promoters have two principal aims: 1. to cripple western liberal society which they hate and 2. to drive a wedge between non-muslims and those majority muslims who wish to co-exist.

- We have seen that it takes just 1-3 jihadis to cause major tragedy and disruption in western cities. They can command hundreds if not thousands of them and they're all willing to die.

- A campaign of jihad attacks in major western cities could continue for years, with even one major or minor attack a month. They cannot be identified in the main or prevented from carrying out random attacks. As I've already pointed out, traitors like Assange & Snowden have weakened even our surveillance defences.

- Can you imagine, as attacks continue over a sustained period, how much angst will surface in western society. The propensity for universal brotherhood will be severely tested. Suspicion of muslims in general will flourish.

- As the attitude of the non-muslim population changes, as it surely would, so will that of many more in the muslim communities. They will increasingly see themselves as victimised, as indeed they probably will be. More of them will tend to support the jihadis.

- A self-fulfilling circle of distrust and enmity will be the inevitable result and who knows what else.

(This fantasy feature brought to you by Dark Vision Productions in association with Flailing About Aimlessly. Funding by Free World Enterprise Development Aid.)

Good posts, And I share the points made, Its probably going to get worse, the terrorists for me won a victory in Paris, and i think its going to embolden them more to carry out more attacks in western nations. antagonising the native populations even further against the muslims living in the western nations.

I dont like the consequences coming from this, but we have no choice but to fight back.

more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds.

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds.

Is that how far your thinking goes ??, Oh it just wont happen to me

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

Bullet points seem appropriate, but too complicated and scary for me. - I suggest the jihadists and their promoters have two principal aims: 1. to cripple western liberal society which they hate and 2. to drive a wedge between non-muslims and those majority muslims who wish to co-exist. - We have seen that it takes just 1-3 jihadis to cause major tragedy and disruption in western cities. They can command hundreds if not thousands of them and they're all willing to die. - A campaign of jihad attacks in major western cities could continue for years, with even one major or minor attack a month. They cannot be identified in the main or prevented from carrying out random attacks. As I've already pointed out, traitors like Assange & Snowden have weakened even our surveillance defences. - Can you imagine, as attacks continue over a sustained period, how much angst will surface in western society. The propensity for universal brotherhood will be severely tested. Suspicion of muslims in general will flourish. - As the attitude of the non-muslim population changes, as it surely would, so will that of many more in the muslim communities. They will increasingly see themselves as victimised, as indeed they probably will be. More of them will tend to support the jihadis. - A self-fulfilling circle of distrust and enmity will be the inevitable result and who knows what else. (This fantasy feature brought to you by Dark Vision Productions in association with Flailing About Aimlessly. Funding by Free World Enterprise Development Aid.)

Muslims are already victims. There were no reprisal attacks following the Sydney hostage murders, but you wouldn't think so from all the victim mongering.

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:34pm: more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds. Is that how far your thinking goes ??, Oh it just wont happen to me

I deal in realities, being very well acquainted with violence it may very well happen to me but not from a muslim assassins bullet. .

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:39pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:58pm: ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:34pm: more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds. Is that how far your thinking goes ??, Oh it just wont happen to me I deal in realities, being very well acquainted with violence it may very well happen to me but not from a muslim assassins bullet. .

Oh so if you run and hide and dont make any criticism of islam what so ever, YOU WILL FOREVER FEEL SAFE, is that the idea ?  ;D ;D ;D

I suggest education is the only way to stop radical Muslims.

They need to be de-programmed.

Reminds me of A Clockwork Orange.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvoNBomWBZI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uEJRmoIDVc

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:41pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:39pm: stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:58pm: ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:34pm: more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds. Is that how far your thinking goes ??, Oh it just wont happen to me I deal in realities, being very well acquainted with violence it may very well happen to me but not from a muslim assassins bullet. . Oh so if you run and hide and dont make any criticism of islam what so ever, YOU WILL FOREVER FEEL SAFE, is that the idea ?  ;D ;D ;D

Yes, you are right. I am running and hiding from Muslims, I achieve this by travelling to Muslim countries up to 6 times a year. i wear my sunglasses as a disguise.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:54pm:

I suggest education is the only way to stop radical Muslims. They need to be de-programmed.

the best way to stop them is not to create them. as ye sow shall ye reap.

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 10:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:54pm: I suggest education is the only way to stop radical Muslims. They need to be de-programmed. the best way to stop them is not to create them. as ye sow shall ye reap.

But once you have them - then maybe de-programming would work?

I started a new thread on it.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421064070/0#0

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

Bullet points seem appropriate, but too complicated and scary for me. - I suggest the jihadists and their promoters have two principal aims: 1. to cripple western liberal society which they hate and 2. to drive a wedge between non-muslims and those majority muslims who wish to co-exist. - We have seen that it takes just 1-3 jihadis to cause major tragedy and disruption in western cities. They can command hundreds if not thousands of them and they're all willing to die. - A campaign of jihad attacks in major western cities could continue for years, with even one major or minor attack a month. They cannot be identified in the main or prevented from carrying out random attacks. As I've already pointed out, traitors like Assange & Snowden have weakened even our surveillance defences. - Can you imagine, as attacks continue over a sustained period, how much angst will surface in western society. The propensity for universal brotherhood will be severely tested. Suspicion of muslims in general will flourish. .... ....

WE, IN THE WEST, should be - THINKING IN A DIFFERENT WAY - about how we regard the presence of moslem communities, dwelling among us, in the West.

We should be thinking of every moslem community living among us, as though that moslem community, were an introduced 'pathogen' or even a 'cancer' [introduced into the body of our Western society/societies].

In a medical sense, while a pathogen is able to fool our 'immune system' into thinking that it [the pathogen] poses no threat to our body [by remaining 'invisible' to our 'immune system'], the body and the immune system is not 'alerted', that it needs to fight back against that pathogen !

And that is how cancers are able to kill our body.

Cancers fool [and weaken!] the immune system, into believing that cancer cells are part of our body.
  .....hence there is very rarely any effective immune system response, against many cancers!



And that is 'the place' where we in the West, are today vis-a-vis ISLAM and moslems, living within Western nations!

Our 'immune system' doesn't yet 'know', that a dangerous and hostile 'pathogen' is 'at work', and growing, within our 'body'.

ISLAM - today - is [in effect], an introduced 'pathogen' which has a significant presence within 'the body' of every Western liberal society!

But why should we regard ISLAM as a harmful 'pathogen'?

Because the societal values which ISLAM promotes, are [almost all] harmful to, and incompatible with, the ideals and values which societies in West nations aspire to - e.g. truth, justice, freedom [to choose!].

And 'the moslem' [even when he is living among us] will always remain an 'agent' of ISLAM.      [Google; Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim]

And ISLAM, and 'the moslem', will always remain a real 'existential threat' to us, and to everything which we hold dear.

But 'the moslem' has fooled many parts of our 'body', into believing that ISLAM [and 'the moslem'] poses no threat to us.

"ISLAM is a peaceful and tolerant faith."   ...."ISLAM promotes peace and harmony."  .....hence we see no 'immune system' response!

And whilesoever those very moslem communities, living among, us remain largely 'weak and ineffectual', those moslems will continue to pretend that they mean us no harm.

But the moslems living among us, are inexorably becoming more numerous.

And we are all moving inexorably towards some form of 'tipping point'.

And when that 'tipping point' arrives, there will be a lot of 'turmoil' [and confusion].



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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds.

Missing the point. The issue is that terrorist attacks do happen. The "not my problem" attitude is not going to solve the wider community's growing concern with terrorism. Nor will it minimise the attacks.

Hey, I don't concern myself excessively with terrorism. But I make sure that we minimise the attacks by doing what individuals can do to guard against attacks.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 12:25am:

ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:34pm: more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds. Missing the point. T

::) No, thats the entire point , Dufus,.

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

Bullet points seem appropriate, but too complicated and scary for me. - I suggest the jihadists and their promoters have two principal aims: 1. to cripple western liberal society which they hate and 2. to drive a wedge between non-muslims and those majority muslims who wish to co-exist. - We have seen that it takes just 1-3 jihadis to cause major tragedy and disruption in western cities. They can command hundreds if not thousands of them and they're all willing to die. - A campaign of jihad attacks in major western cities could continue for years, with even one major or minor attack a month. They cannot be identified in the main or prevented from carrying out random attacks. As I've already pointed out, traitors like Assange & Snowden have weakened even our surveillance defences. - Can you imagine, as attacks continue over a sustained period, how much angst will surface in western society. The propensity for universal brotherhood will be severely tested. Suspicion of muslims in general will flourish. - As the attitude of the non-muslim population changes, as it surely would, so will that of many more in the muslim communities. They will increasingly see themselves as victimised, as indeed they probably will be. More of them will tend to support the jihadis. - A self-fulfilling circle of distrust and enmity will be the inevitable result and who knows what else. (This fantasy feature brought to you by Dark Vision Productions in association with Flailing About Aimlessly. Funding by Free World Enterprise Development Aid.)

Assange and Snowden did nothing!  :D :D

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 10:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:54pm: I suggest education is the only way to stop radical Muslims. They need to be de-programmed. the best way to stop them is not to create them. as ye sow shall ye reap.

Good propaganda, Comrade. Only we "progressives" are allowed to offend people without retribution. The conservatives must pay everytime they offend someone. This is progress.

While the UK's One Nation party (UKIP) leader stands alone in having the political courage to say "the king is wearing no clothes" - meanwhile, the leaders of all the other parties are falling over each other in their rush to ingratiate with Britain's Muslims by condemning any criticism of Islam for being the inspiration for acts of terrorism.

"The Ukip leader blamed Western foreign policy and mass immigration for ‘much of what has happened’.

His remarks come after he was attacked by David Cameron, Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg for claiming there was a ‘fifth column’ in Britain.

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"But Mr Farage said: ‘Perhaps worst of all we have been guilty of weakness – lack of courage – a lack of assertion of who we are as people.

‘We’ve turned a blind eye to many of our minority communities to practises that would not be tolerated in the rest of the population.

‘We’ve allowed preachers of hate to go around saying things that are totally unacceptable.

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"The result of all this is we have a fifth column living in our communities that is utterly opposed to our values, and how we deal with that is vital for the future.

‘Unless we are prepared to admit our own culpability in much of what has happened we are not going to be able to find solutions.

‘We are going to have to be a lot braver and courageous in standing up for our Judeo Christian culture".

Who can argue with that except Leftwingers who want to see the end of democracy and western civilisation?

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ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 10:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:54pm: I suggest education is the only way to stop radical Muslims. They need to be de-programmed. the best way to stop them is not to create them. as ye sow shall ye reap.

Thanks Ian. We need to remind ourselves on a regular basis that it is our fault the Muslim lunatics are on the rampage.

Another implication occurs to me. We have seen today how France has deployed around 4000 police to guard around 700 Jewish schools, as well as synagogues & mosques. (No mention of Islamic schools though in time these may need the same protection). Also 10000 troops are to be deployed in general security.

I imagine the UK will also be boosting its security deployments and probably Germany will too, following the level of anti-Islamic protests.

What will be the cost of such measures which will likely have to be long term. Matters like police overtime and maybe increased recruitment will have to be calculated into already stretched budgets. I suppose there is no dramatic increased cost as far as troops are concerned, although maybe there is for billeting, transport etc.

Once again the long term implications are what interests me, assuming as I already have that this may be a sustained strategy and not just rogue events.
Will European societies be happy with having to expend their treasure in this way or will they at some point decide to break out and retaliate?

(PS This is not meant to be an anti-muslim thread but only an attempt at rational analysis & speculation. Gandalf please note.)

freediver wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:00pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:54pm: I suggest education is the only way to stop radical Muslims. They need to be de-programmed. the best way to stop them is not to create them. as ye sow shall ye reap. Thanks Ian. We need to remind ourselves on a regular basis that it is our fault the Muslim lunatics are on the rampage.

yes, we do need to remind ourselves that our country is in coaaltion with a country that has been raining bombs on these places for decades. You are hilarious, you really are. You think its all about religion when in fact its nothing about religion.

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:37am:

Another implication occurs to me. We have seen today how France has deployed around 4000 police to guard around 700 Jewish schools, as well as synagogues & mosques. (No mention of Islamic schools though in time these may need the same protection). Also 10000 troops are to be deployed in general security. I imagine the UK will also be boosting its security deployments and probably Germany will too, following the level of anti-Islamic protests. What will be the cost of such measures which will likely have to be long term. Matters like police overtime and maybe increased recruitment will have to be calculated into already stretched budgets. I suppose there is no dramatic increased cost as far as troops are concerned, although maybe there is for billeting, transport etc. Once again the long term implications are what interests me, assuming as I already have that this may be a sustained strategy and not just rogue events. Will European societies be happy with having to expend their treasure in this way or will they at some point decide to break out and retaliate? (PS This is not meant to be an anti-muslim thread but only an attempt at rational analysis & speculation. Gandalf please note.)

ISLAM and moslems are cunning.

ISLAM and moslems can [and do!!!] secretly sanction and encourage [moslem] individuals to attack our society and its institutions.

All the while, moslem community leaders can publicly disavow any sanction [for this violence coming] from ISLAM;

e.g.
"We condemn these terrorist acts!!    ISLAM is a peaceful and tolerant faith."




But the immense costs involved, in being constantly 'on alert', against these attacks, drains the 'treasure' of our societies, and measurably weakens our overall strength and stature, as a culture/society.

Which is EXACTLY what the ISLAMISTS among us want to achieve.

freediver wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:00pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:54pm: I suggest education is the only way to stop radical Muslims. They need to be de-programmed. the best way to stop them is not to create them. as ye sow shall ye reap. Thanks Ian. We need to remind ourselves on a regular basis that it is our fault the Muslim lunatics are on the rampage.

We, ourselves [collectively], have allowed moslems [en masse], to migrate to our lands.

Even while, WE, had no proper understanding of the type of 'culture' and worldview which moslems 'carry' and promote, in the world.

We ourselves, are largely responsible, for our present circumstances, today, vis-a-vis ISLAM and moslems, living within Western nations!




2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Revelation 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

> foothold via immigration

> cry victim at every turn, as here https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/25980277/islamic-leaders-says-charlie-hebdo-terrorist-attacks-a-cure/?cmp=ydn

> demand 'right' to run show own way

>  cite constant put-down of religion

> respond with violence

> plead innocence and peace

> escalate complaints and violence

> install reign of terror like back home

Kinda reminds you of Hitler and the Sudetenland eh?  Or a woman's standard tactics - create an 'issue' where you are the 'victim' - proceed to  beat up the 'other side' - continue to cry victim until the powers-that-be accord to you accredited victim status and enforce your victimhood AND your violence against the 'other side'.

Well.. WE didn't bring 'em in.. our governments did and continue to do so.

Solution:-  ship 'em all home again.

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

yes, we do need to remind ourselves that our country is in coaaltion with a country that has been raining bombs on these places for decades.

We have only been raining bombs on the bad muslims, the good muslims have been helping with the aiming.  ;)

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 12:57pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:59am: yes, we do need to remind ourselves that our country is in coaaltion with a country that has been raining bombs on these places for decades. We have only been raining bombs on the bad muslims, the good muslims have been helping with the aiming.  ;)

incorrect. Millions of innocent civilians dead because we cant stay away from their oil.

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innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 12:57pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:59am: yes, we do need to remind ourselves that our country is in coaaltion with a country that has been raining bombs on these places for decades. We have only been raining bombs on the bad muslims, the good muslims have been helping with the aiming.  ;)

No, no, many tens of thousands of civilians in collateral damage.

No one thought the child survivors of those early bombings would grow up.

Another fan  ;D

another idiot. why does this forum attract so many duh duhs.

If we worried about collateral damage we'd all be living in the third reich today, not that you'd care  ;D

Yes, the Japanese 3rd reich  ::) Heil Tojo!

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

If we worried about collateral damage we'd all be living in the third reich today, not that you'd care  ;D

Care?
I'd love it.

I realise that many people will say that the speculation in the OP is wild fantasy and I did put a question mark in the thread of the title.
My extrapolation may never, hopefully won't, come to pass.

But I do, with modesty, claim some runs on the board with predictions.
For example, either here or most likely on the old Yahoo politics forum, I described in detail the procedures necessary to stop the boats. And lo, that is exactly what Morrison did, down to the lifeboats.
Not that I ever dreamed any govt would have the balls to take that course.

What I have predicted here is a logical procession of events based on what we see happening now.
It is reported from France that they suspect maybe six more terrorist cells are on the loose and preparing to act.
What I don't understand is what poor little France has done to deserve this? They haven't participated in any great way in Bush's war on terror. Is it the burka ban? Is it because they have 500,000 Jewish inhabitants? Or is it simply that they have given a home to so many muslims . . .weight of numbers?

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Islamic leader says Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks a ‘cure’     Yahoo7 News     January 13, 2015 An Islamic politician has described the killing of 10 journalists at Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris and two police officers as a 'cure'. Ismail Alwahwah, the leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia, wrote the controversial blog on the group's website claiming the horrific shootings were a reaction to the “daily humiliation” of Muslims and “insults to their book and prophet”, reports News Corp. ..... ..... The Bankstown man entitled the blog “Commentary on Charlie Hebdo and the physical law of compression” and described the pressure on Muslims for 'triggering the explosion'. He wrote: 'The cure has always focused on eliminating pressure or reducing it. 'As a result, it is assumed necessary in all cases to ensure that the pressure does not exceed the red lines, which will then ultimately lead to irreversible problems.' Mr Alwahwah explained that people are killed everyday round the world and said the events in France should be put in 'perspective'.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/25980277/islamic-leaders-says-charlie-hebdo-terrorist-attacks-a-cure/?cmp=ydn

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Islamic politician Ismail Alwahwah, the leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia, says the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks a ‘cure’.

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 1:31pm:

I realise that many people will say that the speculation in the OP is wild fantasy and I did put a question mark in the thread of the title. My extrapolation may never, hopefully won't, come to pass. But I do, with modesty, claim some runs on the board with predictions. For example, either here or most likely on the old Yahoo politics forum, I described in detail the procedures necessary to stop the boats. And lo, that is exactly what Morrison did, down to the lifeboats. Not that I ever dreamed any govt would have the balls to take that course. What I have predicted here is a logical procession of events based on what we see happening now. It is reported from France that they suspect maybe six more terrorist cells are on the loose and preparing to act. What I don't understand is what poor little France has done to deserve this? They haven't participated in any great way in Bush's war on terror. Is it the burka ban? Is it because they have 500,000 Jewish inhabitants? Or is it simply that they have given a home to so many muslims . . .weight of numbers?

Islamic fascism thrives in Western countries, our free speech laws, soft sentencing and generous welfare provisions encourage it.

Most of these jihadi wannabes would have been rounded up and shot well before now in your average middle eastern dictatorship, they realise what giving an inch means to people that read the krazy koran too hard.

I think the OP is probably going to pan out. We can pretty much assume western governments are not going to do anything about their Muslim problem. One of the worst things about letting it drag on is that people are becoming immune to massacre. Edited because I would not want to offend anyone.

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Look at the bastard - he LOOKS all 'vast majority' with jacket and pressed shirt - yet he is of the swelling ranks of the 'tiny minority'.

How do you tell them apart before the shooting starts?  You can't. The suited monsters are sometimes worse than the bearded, pajama boys. Sometimes not.


It'a all one Ummah, Ummah, stick it up yer jumpah, innit.  There is no reliable way to tell the crazy and dangerous ones from the peaceful and law-abiding (do nothing passive) ones. Time to apply the screw that will separate the  crazies from the passives.

That’s strange, old boy. Last week you were only against bearded numpties who refuse to fit in and wear leiderhosen. This week it’s the suits.

Stupid or mendacious? Mendacious or stupid?

You do enjoy a good slaying, no?

why doesnt abbott deport him? What is this government scared of? Neither Abbott or Bishop were at the world leader meeting in paris, Bishop was off on holiday with her boyfriend.

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 12:46am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 12:25am: ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:34pm: more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds. Missing the point. T ::) No, thats the entire point , Dufus,.

Wow! Irascible much?

Soren wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 10:55pm:

Yadda wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 1:44pm: IMAGE..... http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y8JgHt1-Q9o/UO9nFBPakBI/AAAAAAAAAF8/r23-MC2fLEg/s1600/483183-sheik-ismail-al-wahwah.jpg IMAGE..... https://s.yimg.com/ea/img/-/150113/inline_ismail_alwahwah_1ab8g1p-1ab8g6a.jpg?x=656&sig=RXe0isGyYkcg2ag9CdkQBA-- Look at the bastard - he LOOKS all 'vast majority' with jacket and pressed shirt - yet he is of the swelling ranks of the 'tiny minority'. How do you tell them apart before the shooting starts? You can't.

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Soren wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 10:55pm:

The suited monsters are sometimes worse than the bearded, pajama boys. Sometimes not. It'a all one Ummah, Ummah, stick it up yer jumpah, innit. There is no reliable way to tell the crazy and dangerous ones from the peaceful and law-abiding (do nothing passive) ones. Time to apply the screw that will separate the  crazies from the passives.

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.


Ismail Alwahwah = = a follower of Islam.




Yadda wrote on Dec 30^th, 2014 at 8:25am:

ISLAMIC LAW teaches - EVERY MOSLEM - that murdering those who are not moslems [i.e. those who reject ISLAM], is a lawful act. That 'precept' of faith is mainstream within ISLAM.

I just keep banging that drum,         ....about what ISLAM is.

- Yadda




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[b] Islamic leader says Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks a ‘cure’     Yahoo7 News     January 13, 2015 An Islamic politician has described the killing of 10 journalists at Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris and two police officers as a 'cure'. Ismail Alwahwah, the leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia, wrote the controversial blog on the group's website claiming the horrific shootings were a reaction to the “daily humiliation” of Muslims and “insults to their book and prophet”, reports News Corp. ..... ..... The Bankstown man entitled the blog “Commentary on Charlie Hebdo and the physical law of compression” and described the pressure on Muslims for 'triggering the explosion'. ..... ..... He also warned Australians that insults to their religion would end in violence. He wrote: 'It seems some in Australia are arrogant --ly and irresponsibly heedless of the fact that provoking and insulting a people’s core beliefs is a matter that can only end in acrimony for everyone concerned.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/25980277/islamic-leaders-says-charlie-hebdo-terrorist-attacks-a-cure/?cmp=ydn

link credit to,
The Grappler
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421022403/22#22





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Islamic politician Ismail Alwahwah, the leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia, says the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks a ‘cure’.



A piece of human sewage, imo.

Karnal wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 11:04pm:

That’s strange, old boy. Last week you were only against bearded numpties who refuse to fit in and wear leiderhosen. This week it’s the suits. Stupid or mendacious? Mendacious or stupid? You do enjoy a good slaying, no?

The bearded numpty demographic is ONE group. The suited d!ckeaddle is another.

Islam is not monolithic. Ask HB if you don't believe me.

I think I could go to the TAB and collect my money on this one.
Judging by the progress of events since Charlie Hebdo, it seems the strategy is being implemented.

And another one:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2918388/Five-Chechens-suspected-planning-terror-attack-arrested-France-day-800-000-Muslims-marched-Chechnya-praising-Charlie-Hebdo-killers.html

Keeping you updated:

France is massively upgrading security, just as I suggested would be a consequence of the new Islamic strategy. But how long can stretched budgets hold up against such demands?

FRANCE is to recruit 2,700 anti-terror officers after the murders by extremists of 17 people in Paris earlier this month.


Published: 00:01, Thu, January 22, 2015
By Cyril Dixon

France is to spend an extra £324million on strengthening its anti-terrorism forces

Over three years, £324million will be spent training new police officers and supplying weapons and intelligence systems.

Some 7,500 defence jobs which were due to be axed will be reinstated to ensure constant surveillance on more than 3,000 “persons of interest”.

Prime Minister Manuel Valls said: “The fight against terrorism, jihadism and radical Islam will be a long haul.”

Islamic State has formed a new fighting battalion composed entirely of English-speaking militants with orders to carry out attacks in the West.

The 'Anwar al-Awlaki Battalion' has been created to focus solely on carrying out attacks abroad and is working to export its fighters after they've attended training camps, it has been claimed.

Anti-ISIS group Raqqa Is Being Slaughtered Silently said its informants in the organisation's self-proclaimed capital of Raqqa notified it of the development.

The new ISIS battalion is composed entirely of English-speaking recruits and has been given orders to carry out attacks in the West

According to one of the informants, a foreigner fighter proclaimed: 'Finally, the orders have been issued to implement an armed operation within my country.

He added: 'I am now ready to return to my town and carry out operations, now I am able to Jihad in Europe.'

The new battalion was said to have been formed to make good on ISIS' threats to carry its jihad to Europe after a U.S.-led alliance began its bombing campaign in September.

Its name is a reference to Anwar al-Awlaki, the American cleric who was killed in Yemen in a 2011 CIA drone strike who remains hugely popular with the militants.

Raqqa is Being Slaughtered Silently is a small activist collective which secretly documents the shocking violence and oppression ISIS has brought to their home city.

Using a network of informers kept anonymous to protect their safety, it leaks details of the ISIS occupation to the world.